Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 Respected Senior, Kindly guide other and me regarding two below written 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste Mali halat Surya kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how to get Surya kee madad? 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn Badam Mandir mEn lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. How much Badam? Is it equal the weight of the Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For Long that should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam kundli and is in varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. Should it be done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 months? Kindly reply. Rajni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> wrote: > > > > Respected Senior, > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below written > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste Mali halat Surya kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how to get Surya kee madad? ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. BANDAR SURYA KI CHIZ HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn Badam Mandir mEn lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > How much Badam? Is it equal the weight of the Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For Long that should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam kundli and is in varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. Should it be done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 months? Kindly reply. IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK HIM IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN? KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. 1.TAKE BADAM 10% OF WEIGHT OF NATIVE THROWN IN RUNNING WATER. 11. 2 BADAM MANDIR LE JAYEN AUR VAHAN RAKH KAR EK VAPAS LA KAR PILE KAPDE MAIN BANDH KAR RAKHEN. 5 DAYS CONTINOUSLY. I THINK AAPKO PAHLE VALA UPAY KARNA CHAHIYE. MUDIT982001. > > Rajni > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 Mudit Jee Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana #5. Why this particular symptom? Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the reference to legal matters? Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal position and also (2) Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related to law? Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. Regards R S lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " <mudit982001> wrote: > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below written > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste Mali halat Surya > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how to get Surya kee > madad? > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. BANDAR SURYA KI CHIZ > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn Badam Mandir mEn > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the weight of the > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For Long that > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam kundli and is in > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. Should it be > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 months? Kindly reply. > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK HIM > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN? > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. > 1.TAKE BADAM 10% OF WEIGHT OF NATIVE THROWN IN RUNNING WATER. > 11. 2 BADAM MANDIR LE JAYEN AUR VAHAN RAKH KAR EK VAPAS LA KAR > PILE KAPDE MAIN BANDH KAR RAKHEN. 5 DAYS CONTINOUSLY. > I THINK AAPKO PAHLE VALA UPAY KARNA CHAHIYE. > MUDIT982001. > > > > > Rajni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 dear Rakesh ji, Saturn is enemy of Sun mudit982001 lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal> wrote: > Mudit Jee > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana #5. Why this > particular symptom? > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the reference to legal > matters? > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal position and also (2) > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related to law? > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > Regards > > > R S > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " <mudit982001> > wrote: > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below written > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste Mali halat Surya > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how to get Surya > kee > > madad? > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. BANDAR SURYA KI > CHIZ > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn Badam Mandir > mEn > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the weight of the > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For Long that > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam kundli and is in > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. Should it be > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 months? Kindly reply. > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK HIM > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN? > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. > > 1.TAKE BADAM 10% OF WEIGHT OF NATIVE THROWN IN RUNNING WATER. > > 11. 2 BADAM MANDIR LE JAYEN AUR VAHAN RAKH KAR EK VAPAS LA > KAR > > PILE KAPDE MAIN BANDH KAR RAKHEN. 5 DAYS CONTINOUSLY. > > I THINK AAPKO PAHLE VALA UPAY KARNA CHAHIYE. > > MUDIT982001. > > > > > > > > Rajni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 Mudit Bhai Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal sirf itna ki aapne kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat are enemies. Thanks in advance Regards RS lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " <mudit982001> wrote: > dear Rakesh ji, > Saturn is enemy of Sun > mudit982001 > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal> > wrote: > > Mudit Jee > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana #5. Why this > > particular symptom? > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the reference to > legal > > matters? > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal position and also > (2) > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related to law? > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > R S > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " <mudit982001> > > wrote: > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below written > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste Mali halat > Surya > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how to get Surya > > kee > > > madad? > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. BANDAR SURYA KI > > CHIZ > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn Badam Mandir > > mEn > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the weight of > the > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For Long that > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam kundli and is > in > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. Should it be > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 months? Kindly > reply. > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK HIM > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN? > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. > > > 1.TAKE BADAM 10% OF WEIGHT OF NATIVE THROWN IN RUNNING > WATER. > > > 11. 2 BADAM MANDIR LE JAYEN AUR VAHAN RAKH KAR EK VAPAS LA > > KAR > > > PILE KAPDE MAIN BANDH KAR RAKHEN. 5 DAYS CONTINOUSLY. > > > I THINK AAPKO PAHLE VALA UPAY KARNA CHAHIYE. > > > MUDIT982001. > > > > > > > > > > > Rajni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 Res. Rakesh ji, Because Jupiter and Sun both are significator of 5th house. Sun= Government and related Departments Jupiter= Law This is my observation! and you try to apply this in that horoscopes you see Saturn in 5th house once a time that person definately go to court in any matter. check it. If saturn aspected or related with papi enemy planet some time person compel to take " BAIL " . I again ask it is my observation do not take it otherwise. with regards. mudit982001 lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal> wrote: > Mudit Bhai > > Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal sirf itna ki aapne > kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat are enemies. > > Thanks in advance > > Regards > > RS > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " <mudit982001> > wrote: > > dear Rakesh ji, > > Saturn is enemy of Sun > > mudit982001 > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal> > > wrote: > > > Mudit Jee > > > > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana #5. Why this > > > particular symptom? > > > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the reference to > > legal > > > matters? > > > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal position and > also > > (2) > > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related to law? > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " <mudit982001> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava > <rajni4051> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below written > > > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste Mali halat > > Surya > > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how to get Surya > > > kee > > > > madad? > > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. BANDAR SURYA KI > > > CHIZ > > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn Badam > Mandir > > > mEn > > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the weight of > > the > > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For Long that > > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam kundli and > is > > in > > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. Should it > be > > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 months? Kindly > > reply. > > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK HIM > > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN? > > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. > > > > 1.TAKE BADAM 10% OF WEIGHT OF NATIVE THROWN IN RUNNING > > WATER. > > > > 11. 2 BADAM MANDIR LE JAYEN AUR VAHAN RAKH KAR EK VAPAS LA > > > KAR > > > > PILE KAPDE MAIN BANDH KAR RAKHEN. 5 DAYS CONTINOUSLY. > > > > I THINK AAPKO PAHLE VALA UPAY KARNA CHAHIYE. > > > > MUDIT982001. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2004 Report Share Posted July 12, 2004 Mudit Bhai Aap waise hi itni izzat bakshte ho so yeh res kaa takiyaa kalaam choriye. Doosraa ab aapne vistaar se bataaya, I have got it. Thank you for your patience Sir. Most gateful. Warm Regards R S lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " <mudit982001> wrote: > Res. Rakesh ji, > Because Jupiter and Sun both are significator of 5th house. > Sun= Government and related Departments > Jupiter= Law > This is my observation! and you try to apply this in that horoscopes > you see Saturn in 5th house once a time that person definately go to > court in any matter. check it. If saturn aspected or related with > papi enemy planet some time person compel to take " BAIL " . > I again ask it is my observation do not take it otherwise. > with regards. > mudit982001 > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal> > wrote: > > Mudit Bhai > > > > Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal sirf itna ki > aapne > > kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat are enemies. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Regards > > > > RS > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " <mudit982001> > > wrote: > > > dear Rakesh ji, > > > Saturn is enemy of Sun > > > mudit982001 > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > <rakeshsahgal> > > > wrote: > > > > Mudit Jee > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana #5. Why > this > > > > particular symptom? > > > > > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the reference > to > > > legal > > > > matters? > > > > > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal position and > > also > > > (2) > > > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related to law? > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > <mudit982001> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava > > <rajni4051> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below written > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste Mali halat > > > Surya > > > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how to get > Surya > > > > kee > > > > > madad? > > > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. BANDAR SURYA > KI > > > > CHIZ > > > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn Badam > > Mandir > > > > mEn > > > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the weight > of > > > the > > > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For Long > that > > > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam kundli and > > is > > > in > > > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. Should it > > be > > > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 months? Kindly > > > reply. > > > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK HIM > > > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN? > > > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. > > > > > 1.TAKE BADAM 10% OF WEIGHT OF NATIVE THROWN IN RUNNING > > > WATER. > > > > > 11. 2 BADAM MANDIR LE JAYEN AUR VAHAN RAKH KAR EK VAPAS > LA > > > > KAR > > > > > PILE KAPDE MAIN BANDH KAR RAKHEN. 5 DAYS CONTINOUSLY. > > > > > I THINK AAPKO PAHLE VALA UPAY KARNA CHAHIYE. > > > > > MUDIT982001. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2004 Report Share Posted July 13, 2004 Dear sir, I am having shani in my kundli in house no 5 but along with jupiter.So what is this combination Should I assume that now sat will not do any harm as sat ne kharaab naa karne kee kasam jo kha lee hai?????? Jup + sat , here, arranges for divine help ?????????? Do the children get affected in some way or the other ?????(I have got two sons with the grace of God) As uppaya, I have bought a house but in my wife's name who has sat in the 4th house (and in the 6th house of her varshphal) I am ready to answer other questions for the further research. Rakesh Sharma M.Sc(maths), M.Ed.Mudit982001 <mudit982001 wrote: dear Rakesh ji,Saturn is enemy of Sun mudit982001lalkitab , "rakeshsahgal" <rakeshsahgal> wrote:> Mudit Jee> > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana #5. Why this> particular symptom?> > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the reference to legal> matters?> > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal position and also (2)> Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related to law?> > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance.> > > Regards> > > R S> > > --- In lalkitab , "Mudit982001" <mudit982001>> wrote:> > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior,> > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below written > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste Mali halat Surya > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how to get Surya> kee > > madad?> > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. BANDAR SURYA KI> CHIZ > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI.> > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn Badam Mandir> mEn > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey.> > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the weight of the > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For Long that > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam kundli and is in > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. Should it be > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 months? Kindly reply.> > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK HIM > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE?> > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN?> > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY?> > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN.> > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL.> > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON.> > 1.TAKE BADAM 10% OF WEIGHT OF NATIVE THROWN IN RUNNING WATER.> > 11. 2 BADAM MANDIR LE JAYEN AUR VAHAN RAKH KAR EK VAPAS LA> KAR > > PILE KAPDE MAIN BANDH KAR RAKHEN. 5 DAYS CONTINOUSLY.> > I THINK AAPKO PAHLE VALA UPAY KARNA CHAHIYE. > > MUDIT982001.> > > > > > > > Rajni> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - You care about security. So do we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, With due respect I want to add that the only reference of court case occurs in these lines { Lal Kitab , page 610 urdu ed1952 ,Shani 5 - mandi halat # 2 } " tamaam jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor farebi bhi bane, phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb hoga / go ahle-qalam magar nirdhan hi hoga / muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara hoga / " Therefore, the possibility of court cases will be if he has a lot of hair on his body. With respect to all gurujan, bhuwan lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> wrote: > Respected Mudit Ji & Sehgal JI > Sorry for going between both of you.Yes Mudit is right in his > way but another factor about this is --- if jupiter is in 9th and it > seems to be PIDIT by moon or any other pattern of drishti or by sukra > (Venus)then " Shani ka andhera surya ki roshni ko Kanoon (Jupiter) ki > takat se mandaa karne ki koshish karega kyonki pidit jupiter in 9th > Saturn ki drishti main hoga aur uska maksad surya ko dabaana hoga > (agar mandaa ho)isi karan lalkitab main mukaddmain ke vakyaat ka > jikra kiya gaya hai.Matalab yeh hai ki yadi 9th main mandaa jupiter > ho to surya ka noor (aura) ghataane ke lihaz se mandaa shani DIMAGI > KHANA NO. 15 se mushtarkaa hone ke kaaran mukaddma aur jail ka karan > ban sakta hai.Jaisa ki mudit ji ne kaha hai.Aur kundli ki tafsil isi > ke mutabik jaanchne ke baad upay karna thik hoga varnaa manda shani > 5th main bachche khane wala saanp jahir hogaa.Ab mande ye nek ka > nirnay puri kundli ke mazboon ko janchte hue karnaa hogaa jaisa ki > Mudut Ji ne kiya hai.Lalkitab main head per(jo ki rahu ki milkiyat > hai)main 42 dimagi khano ka varnan hai. > I written according to the lalkitab " shani khana no. 5 " > With respect > Lalkitabee > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " <mudit982001> > wrote: > > Res. Rakesh ji, > > Because Jupiter and Sun both are significator of 5th house. > > Sun= Government and related Departments > > Jupiter= Law > > This is my observation! and you try to apply this in that > horoscopes > > you see Saturn in 5th house once a time that person definately go > to > > court in any matter. check it. If saturn aspected or related with > > papi enemy planet some time person compel to take " BAIL " . > > I again ask it is my observation do not take it otherwise. > > with regards. > > mudit982001 > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal> > > wrote: > > > Mudit Bhai > > > > > > Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal sirf itna ki > > aapne > > > kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat are > enemies. > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > RS > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " <mudit982001> > > > wrote: > > > > dear Rakesh ji, > > > > Saturn is enemy of Sun > > > > mudit982001 > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Mudit Jee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana #5. Why > > this > > > > > particular symptom? > > > > > > > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the reference > > to > > > > legal > > > > > matters? > > > > > > > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal position and > > > also > > > > (2) > > > > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related to law? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > <mudit982001> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava > > > <rajni4051> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below written > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste Mali > halat > > > > Surya > > > > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how to get > > Surya > > > > > kee > > > > > > madad? > > > > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. BANDAR > SURYA > > KI > > > > > CHIZ > > > > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn Badam > > > Mandir > > > > > mEn > > > > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the weight > > of > > > > the > > > > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For Long > > that > > > > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam kundli > and > > > is > > > > in > > > > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. Should > it > > > be > > > > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 months? > Kindly > > > > reply. > > > > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK HIM > > > > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > > > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN? > > > > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > > > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > > > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > > > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 Priya bhuvan ji You wrote realy in direction but " MAINE LALKITAB KE EK PURVAVARTI ADDITION MAIN ISKI TAFSIL KUCHH IS TARAH BHI PADHI HAI ---- Agar jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor farebi bhi bane,phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb aur mandaa haal khud apna aur aulad ka ho budh ka upay madadgaar hoga lagaataar 100 din tak/ aise shaks main pita ya surya ke asar ka nek nishan ka naam tak bhi na hoga/ go ahle-qalam magar nirdhan ,chor farebi fir bhi hoga/tanghaal , bhola baadshaah hoga /DIMAGI KHANA NO. 15 BRIHASPATI SE MUSHTARKA KHUDDARI , muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara hoga HOVE. " ACCORDING TO THIS SHANI NO. 5 GURU NO. 9 KO GURU KI MUFSIL MAIN PADHNAA BHI JAROORI HAI.AUR IS BAAT KA KHAAS KHYAAL RAKHNAA BHI JAROORI HAI KI GURU AUR SHANI KE MANDE YA PIDIT NA HONE PER AUR SHUBH GRAHO SE DRISHT HONE PER " GURU SHANI MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN LEVAIN AUR PIDIT YA MANDE HONE PER BHI MANDI HALAT MAIN " GURU SHANI MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN LEVAIN. PRIYA BHUVAN aapne iski nishani bilkul spasht ki hai ki " agar jism per jyada baal ho to " lekin saath yeh bhi jaroori hai ki beshak jism per jyadaa baal ho agar guru manda na ho aur shani mandaa na kiyaa jaye to chor farebi to kya choro ka sardar hote hue bhi aisa sanyaasi hoga jiski maya ka bhed na jana ja sake ,matalab yeh hai ki yadi neki ke kaan kartaa rahegaa aur seena dhakker rahega to duniyan main naam aur daam dono kamayega.Agar seena kholker chalegaa to shani sareaam katl bhi karvaa saktaa hai bhale hi kitnaa naam aur daam kyon na kamaa le kuch bhi use bachaa nahi payegaa.Kyonki nek shani bhi jiske shareer per adhik baal hovain seena khula rakhne per ya saanp marvaane per ya rahu ke 8th main hone per chhat badalwane per (Khaas taur per TOILET ki chhat badalwane per mandaa ho jayegaa.Ab sawaal hai ki yadi sharir per jyaada baal ho to nek shani ka nirnay kaise kiyaa jaye.iske liye kundli main rahu ki tafsil ko dekhte hue uske mande vakyaat ka jikra kiya jaye aur guru ya shani kisse pidit hain to uska faislaa kiyaa jaye maslan 12th main budh aur 5th main shani guru 9th main ho to guru to budh se dhoke ki nazar per baitha hogaa lekin mandaa shani budh ko takraav degaa kyonki 12th ka budh 25% nazar shani ke headquarter per bhi rakhe hai isi karan takraav ka jehari (shani) shaks ke dwara mandaa ker liye jane per guru ko dhoka dene ke asool ke khilaaf jahar uglega , budh ka tedhaa daant saanp ki thaili se is jehar ko nikalne ka sabab banker kisi ko maar dene ki taqat ya mande vaqt ka karan bhi banega lekin saanp ka apnaa vazood khatrey main padne per vahi saanp marne maarne ke asool per chal padegaa kyonki use to aulad ka asr mandaa karne ke liye pratyek shart manzoor hogi.Aulad to mandi hogi hi. Aisa maine aap aur mudit ji ke nazariye ko lalkitab ke dayre main hi aur adhik vistrit karne ka prayaas kiyaa hai.ummid hai ki mere is nazariye ke mutabik SHANI NO. 5 ko samajhne main adhik madad milegi aur aap sabhi adhik badhia chintan ker sakenge.Vaise lalkitab ek samudra hai maine ek dubki lagaane ka prayaas kiyaa aur is sandarbh main jo hasil hua use aap sabke saamne rakhaa hai. With regards lalkitabee lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > With due respect I want to add that the only reference of court case > occurs in these lines { Lal Kitab , page 610 urdu ed1952 ,Shani 5 - > mandi halat # 2 } > > " tamaam jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor farebi bhi bane, > phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb hoga / go ahle-qalam magar nirdhan > hi hoga / muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara hoga / " > > Therefore, the possibility of court cases will be if he has a lot of > hair on his body. > > With respect to all gurujan, > > bhuwan > > > > > lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> wrote: > > Respected Mudit Ji & Sehgal JI > > Sorry for going between both of you.Yes Mudit is right in > his > > way but another factor about this is --- if jupiter is in 9th and > it > > seems to be PIDIT by moon or any other pattern of drishti or by > sukra > > (Venus)then " Shani ka andhera surya ki roshni ko Kanoon (Jupiter) > ki > > takat se mandaa karne ki koshish karega kyonki pidit jupiter in 9th > > Saturn ki drishti main hoga aur uska maksad surya ko dabaana hoga > > (agar mandaa ho)isi karan lalkitab main mukaddmain ke vakyaat ka > > jikra kiya gaya hai.Matalab yeh hai ki yadi 9th main mandaa jupiter > > ho to surya ka noor (aura) ghataane ke lihaz se mandaa shani DIMAGI > > KHANA NO. 15 se mushtarkaa hone ke kaaran mukaddma aur jail ka > karan > > ban sakta hai.Jaisa ki mudit ji ne kaha hai.Aur kundli ki tafsil > isi > > ke mutabik jaanchne ke baad upay karna thik hoga varnaa manda shani > > 5th main bachche khane wala saanp jahir hogaa.Ab mande ye nek ka > > nirnay puri kundli ke mazboon ko janchte hue karnaa hogaa jaisa ki > > Mudut Ji ne kiya hai.Lalkitab main head per(jo ki rahu ki milkiyat > > hai)main 42 dimagi khano ka varnan hai. > > I written according to the lalkitab " shani khana no. 5 " > > With respect > > > Lalkitabee > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " <mudit982001> > > wrote: > > > Res. Rakesh ji, > > > Because Jupiter and Sun both are significator of 5th house. > > > Sun= Government and related Departments > > > Jupiter= Law > > > This is my observation! and you try to apply this in that > > horoscopes > > > you see Saturn in 5th house once a time that person definately go > > to > > > court in any matter. check it. If saturn aspected or related with > > > papi enemy planet some time person compel to take " BAIL " . > > > I again ask it is my observation do not take it otherwise. > > > with regards. > > > mudit982001 > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > <rakeshsahgal> > > > wrote: > > > > Mudit Bhai > > > > > > > > Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal sirf itna > ki > > > aapne > > > > kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat are > > enemies. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > RS > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > <mudit982001> > > > > wrote: > > > > > dear Rakesh ji, > > > > > Saturn is enemy of Sun > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Mudit Jee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana #5. > Why > > > this > > > > > > particular symptom? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the > reference > > > to > > > > > legal > > > > > > matters? > > > > > > > > > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal position > and > > > > also > > > > > (2) > > > > > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related to > law? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava > > > > <rajni4051> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below written > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste Mali > > halat > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how to > get > > > Surya > > > > > > kee > > > > > > > madad? > > > > > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. BANDAR > > SURYA > > > KI > > > > > > CHIZ > > > > > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn Badam > > > > Mandir > > > > > > mEn > > > > > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the > weight > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For > Long > > > that > > > > > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam kundli > > and > > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. > Should > > it > > > > be > > > > > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 months? > > Kindly > > > > > reply. > > > > > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK HIM > > > > > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > > > > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN? > > > > > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > > > > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > > > > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > > > > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 respected bhuvam ji im sorry,please analyze according to the neev drishti of budh in given example & there assume rahu in 8th & analyze it now drishti of rahu 25% to the no. 12th in massage no.2506 with regards lalkitabee lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> wrote: > Priya bhuvan ji > You wrote realy in direction but > " MAINE LALKITAB KE EK PURVAVARTI ADDITION MAIN ISKI TAFSIL KUCHH IS > TARAH BHI PADHI HAI ---- Agar jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor > farebi bhi bane,phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb aur mandaa haal > khud apna aur aulad ka ho budh ka upay madadgaar hoga lagaataar 100 > din tak/ aise shaks main pita ya surya ke asar ka nek nishan ka naam > tak bhi na hoga/ go ahle-qalam magar nirdhan ,chor farebi fir bhi > hoga/tanghaal , bhola baadshaah hoga /DIMAGI KHANA NO. 15 BRIHASPATI > SE MUSHTARKA KHUDDARI , muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara > hoga HOVE. " > ACCORDING TO THIS SHANI NO. 5 GURU NO. 9 KO GURU KI MUFSIL > MAIN PADHNAA BHI JAROORI HAI.AUR IS BAAT KA KHAAS KHYAAL RAKHNAA BHI > JAROORI HAI KI GURU AUR SHANI KE MANDE YA PIDIT NA HONE PER AUR SHUBH > GRAHO SE DRISHT HONE PER " GURU SHANI MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN > LEVAIN AUR PIDIT YA MANDE HONE PER BHI MANDI HALAT MAIN " GURU SHANI > MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN LEVAIN. > PRIYA BHUVAN aapne iski nishani bilkul spasht ki hai ki " agar > jism per jyada baal ho to " lekin saath yeh bhi jaroori hai ki beshak > jism per jyadaa baal ho agar guru manda na ho aur shani mandaa na > kiyaa jaye to chor farebi to kya choro ka sardar hote hue bhi aisa > sanyaasi hoga jiski maya ka bhed na jana ja sake ,matalab yeh hai ki > yadi neki ke kaan kartaa rahegaa aur seena dhakker rahega to duniyan > main naam aur daam dono kamayega.Agar seena kholker chalegaa to shani > sareaam katl bhi karvaa saktaa hai bhale hi kitnaa naam aur daam kyon > na kamaa le kuch bhi use bachaa nahi payegaa.Kyonki nek shani bhi > jiske shareer per adhik baal hovain seena khula rakhne per ya saanp > marvaane per ya rahu ke 8th main hone per chhat badalwane per (Khaas > taur per TOILET ki chhat badalwane per mandaa ho jayegaa.Ab sawaal > hai ki yadi sharir per jyaada baal ho to nek shani ka nirnay kaise > kiyaa jaye.iske liye kundli main rahu ki tafsil ko dekhte hue uske > mande vakyaat ka jikra kiya jaye aur guru ya shani kisse pidit hain > to uska faislaa kiyaa jaye maslan 12th main budh aur 5th main shani > guru 9th main ho to guru to budh se dhoke ki nazar per baitha hogaa > lekin mandaa shani budh ko takraav degaa kyonki 12th ka budh 25% > nazar shani ke headquarter per bhi rakhe hai isi karan takraav ka > jehari (shani) shaks ke dwara mandaa ker liye jane per guru ko dhoka > dene ke asool ke khilaaf jahar uglega , budh ka tedhaa daant saanp ki > thaili se is jehar ko nikalne ka sabab banker kisi ko maar dene ki > taqat ya mande vaqt ka karan bhi banega lekin saanp ka apnaa vazood > khatrey main padne per vahi saanp marne maarne ke asool per chal > padegaa kyonki use to aulad ka asr mandaa karne ke liye pratyek shart > manzoor hogi.Aulad to mandi hogi hi. > Aisa maine aap aur mudit ji ke nazariye ko lalkitab ke dayre main hi > aur adhik vistrit karne ka prayaas kiyaa hai.ummid hai ki mere is > nazariye ke mutabik SHANI NO. 5 ko samajhne main adhik madad milegi > aur aap sabhi adhik badhia chintan ker sakenge.Vaise lalkitab ek > samudra hai maine ek dubki lagaane ka prayaas kiyaa aur is sandarbh > main jo hasil hua use aap sabke saamne rakhaa hai. > With regards > lalkitabee > > lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > > > With due respect I want to add that the only reference of court > case > > occurs in these lines { Lal Kitab , page 610 urdu ed1952 ,Shani 5 - > > mandi halat # 2 } > > > > " tamaam jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor farebi bhi bane, > > phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb hoga / go ahle-qalam magar > nirdhan > > hi hoga / muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara hoga / " > > > > Therefore, the possibility of court cases will be if he has a lot > of > > hair on his body. > > > > With respect to all gurujan, > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> > wrote: > > > Respected Mudit Ji & Sehgal JI > > > Sorry for going between both of you.Yes Mudit is right in > > his > > > way but another factor about this is --- if jupiter is in 9th and > > it > > > seems to be PIDIT by moon or any other pattern of drishti or by > > sukra > > > (Venus)then " Shani ka andhera surya ki roshni ko Kanoon (Jupiter) > > ki > > > takat se mandaa karne ki koshish karega kyonki pidit jupiter in > 9th > > > Saturn ki drishti main hoga aur uska maksad surya ko dabaana hoga > > > (agar mandaa ho)isi karan lalkitab main mukaddmain ke vakyaat ka > > > jikra kiya gaya hai.Matalab yeh hai ki yadi 9th main mandaa > jupiter > > > ho to surya ka noor (aura) ghataane ke lihaz se mandaa shani > DIMAGI > > > KHANA NO. 15 se mushtarkaa hone ke kaaran mukaddma aur jail ka > > karan > > > ban sakta hai.Jaisa ki mudit ji ne kaha hai.Aur kundli ki tafsil > > isi > > > ke mutabik jaanchne ke baad upay karna thik hoga varnaa manda > shani > > > 5th main bachche khane wala saanp jahir hogaa.Ab mande ye nek ka > > > nirnay puri kundli ke mazboon ko janchte hue karnaa hogaa jaisa > ki > > > Mudut Ji ne kiya hai.Lalkitab main head per(jo ki rahu ki > milkiyat > > > hai)main 42 dimagi khano ka varnan hai. > > > I written according to the lalkitab " shani khana no. 5 " > > > With respect > > > > > > Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " <mudit982001> > > > wrote: > > > > Res. Rakesh ji, > > > > Because Jupiter and Sun both are significator of 5th house. > > > > Sun= Government and related Departments > > > > Jupiter= Law > > > > This is my observation! and you try to apply this in that > > > horoscopes > > > > you see Saturn in 5th house once a time that person definately > go > > > to > > > > court in any matter. check it. If saturn aspected or related > with > > > > papi enemy planet some time person compel to take " BAIL " . > > > > I again ask it is my observation do not take it otherwise. > > > > with regards. > > > > mudit982001 > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Mudit Bhai > > > > > > > > > > Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal sirf itna > > ki > > > > aapne > > > > > kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat are > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > RS > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > <mudit982001> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > dear Rakesh ji, > > > > > > Saturn is enemy of Sun > > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Mudit Jee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana #5. > > Why > > > > this > > > > > > > particular symptom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the > > reference > > > > to > > > > > > legal > > > > > > > matters? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal position > > and > > > > > also > > > > > > (2) > > > > > > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related to > > law? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava > > > > > <rajni4051> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below > written > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste Mali > > > halat > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how to > > get > > > > Surya > > > > > > > kee > > > > > > > > madad? > > > > > > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. BANDAR > > > SURYA > > > > KI > > > > > > > CHIZ > > > > > > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn > Badam > > > > > Mandir > > > > > > > mEn > > > > > > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the > > weight > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For > > Long > > > > that > > > > > > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam > kundli > > > and > > > > > is > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. > > Should > > > it > > > > > be > > > > > > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 months? > > > Kindly > > > > > > reply. > > > > > > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK HIM > > > > > > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN? > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > > > > > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > > > > > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > > > > > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2004 Report Share Posted July 14, 2004 Respected lalkitabeeji, Mudit ji and all group members, I am thrilled to have your attention on this i.e. Shani #5. Below written is my husband's teva and I describe all in detail. Please take a little pain to give some direction to me. {DOB 07/07/1947 TOB 00:20 SHARP POB MAYYAR HALT (HARYANA) LONGITUDE 075.46-E LATITUDE 029.10-N} Lagan is Meen or Rassi#12 is written in Khana No.1 Mangal+ Rahu in khana no.3 Surya+ Shukra in no.4 Shani+ Budh in no.5 Guru in no.8 Ketu in no.9 Chandra in 11 He has two elder brothers and two elder sisters Grandfather died when my husband was 8 years old and the old man was 79, Father died in 1980 he was 77 years old, Mother died in 1991 she was 84 years old, Eldest sister died in 2004 and she was73 He had a bad company in his teen age and started smoking, drinking, meat eating and gambling. Passed his matriculation in 1963, B.A in 1972 in 2nd. Division. With the help of his brother in law (Jija) he got job in a Bank as Cashier on 3rd. of July 1972.Got married in 1974.First daughter was born in 1974, second in 1977 and third in1985. Of course no SON. Lost a lot of money in Gambling until 1989. In 1989 he got Lal kitab from one of his friends and started studying it and believe me he stopped gambling. Purchased a big house in 1991 and sold in 1998 for almost 3500000/- earned profit of about 2200000/- but lost in shares. He received many financial help from his eldest brother who is settled in USA. Our two daughters are US citizen and doing very well there. In 1988 a friend (son of an advocate) came and asked my husband to identify him in the office of sub registrar on a sale deed of land worth Rs.1900000/- which his friend purchased from some unknown person who was introduced by some other advocate .My husband says he identified his friend but the ambiguous legal language on the document which he signed shows that the identification was of seller. The seller was fraud. After ten years real owner appeared and lodge, a criminal complaint/case against my husband as the first witness who was an advocate died in an accident in 1993. Therefore, since 1999 my husband is on bail and attending court regularly. (This case is about to solve in his favour as the purchaser has paid again the price of the land after negotiation). Regarding hair on body, I must say "sare sareer par kam aur baareek bal hen" In fact, now my husband is a gem of person very coop. adjusting nature, but at present, he has only one bad habit (hence this email) i.e. daily drinking since last 20 years or more in the night (probably never in the day time) and with a limit of 150 mi. He himself wants to get rid of this bad habit but maybe his stars do not allow or require any remedy His 58th. Varsphal is below written. Mangal+ Rahu #2 Ketu #3 Shani+ Budh #5 Surya+ Shukra #7 Guru #8 Chandra #9 Kindly suggest should he Do “Aam ke Vreksh pe dudh” wala upai or not. In addition, Badam Mandir lejakar adhey vapis la kar ghar me kayam rekhna. Though this is a long letter but it is according to demand. Rajni lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: Priya bhuvan ji You wrote realy in direction but "MAINE LALKITAB KE EK PURVAVARTI ADDITION MAIN ISKI TAFSIL KUCHH IS TARAH BHI PADHI HAI ---- Agar jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor farebi bhi bane,phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb aur mandaa haal khud apna aur aulad ka ho budh ka upay madadgaar hoga lagaataar 100 din tak/ aise shaks main pita ya surya ke asar ka nek nishan ka naam tak bhi na hoga/ go ahle-qalam magar nirdhan ,chor farebi fir bhi hoga/tanghaal , bhola baadshaah hoga /DIMAGI KHANA NO. 15 BRIHASPATI SE MUSHTARKA KHUDDARI , muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara hoga HOVE. " ACCORDING TO THIS SHANI NO. 5 GURU NO. 9 KO GURU KI MUFSIL MAIN PADHNAA BHI JAROORI HAI.AUR IS BAAT KA KHAAS KHYAAL RAKHNAA BHI JAROORI HAI KI GURU AUR SHANI KE MANDE YA PIDIT NA HONE PER AUR SHUBH GRAHO SE DRISHT HONE PER "GURU SHANI MUSHTARKA" KA FAL BHI JAAN LEVAIN AUR PIDIT YA MANDE HONE PER BHI MANDI HALAT MAIN "GURU SHANI MUSHTARKA" KA FAL BHI JAAN LEVAIN. PRIYA BHUVAN aapne iski nishani bilkul spasht ki hai ki "agar jism per jyada baal ho to" lekin saath yeh bhi jaroori hai ki beshak jism per jyadaa baal ho agar guru manda na ho aur shani mandaa na kiyaa jaye to chor farebi to kya choro ka sardar hote hue bhi aisa sanyaasi hoga jiski maya ka bhed na jana ja sake ,matalab yeh hai ki yadi neki ke kaan kartaa rahegaa aur seena dhakker rahega to duniyan main naam aur daam dono kamayega.Agar seena kholker chalegaa to shani sareaam katl bhi karvaa saktaa hai bhale hi kitnaa naam aur daam kyon na kamaa le kuch bhi use bachaa nahi payegaa.Kyonki nek shani bhi jiske shareer per adhik baal hovain seena khula rakhne per ya saanp marvaane per ya rahu ke 8th main hone per chhat badalwane per (Khaas taur per TOILET ki chhat badalwane per mandaa ho jayegaa.Ab sawaal hai ki yadi sharir per jyaada baal ho to nek shani ka nirnay kaise kiyaa jaye.iske liye kundli main rahu ki tafsil ko dekhte hue uske mande vakyaat ka jikra kiya jaye aur guru ya shani kisse pidit hain to uska faislaa kiyaa jaye maslan 12th main budh aur 5th main shani guru 9th main ho to guru to budh se dhoke ki nazar per baitha hogaa lekin mandaa shani budh ko takraav degaa kyonki 12th ka budh 25% nazar shani ke headquarter per bhi rakhe hai isi karan takraav ka jehari (shani) shaks ke dwara mandaa ker liye jane per guru ko dhoka dene ke asool ke khilaaf jahar uglega , budh ka tedhaa daant saanp ki thaili se is jehar ko nikalne ka sabab banker kisi ko maar dene ki taqat ya mande vaqt ka karan bhi banega lekin saanp ka apnaa vazood khatrey main padne per vahi saanp marne maarne ke asool per chal padegaa kyonki use to aulad ka asr mandaa karne ke liye pratyek shart manzoor hogi.Aulad to mandi hogi hi.Aisa maine aap aur mudit ji ke nazariye ko lalkitab ke dayre main hi aur adhik vistrit karne ka prayaas kiyaa hai.ummid hai ki mere is nazariye ke mutabik SHANI NO. 5 ko samajhne main adhik madad milegi aur aap sabhi adhik badhia chintan ker sakenge.Vaise lalkitab ek samudra hai maine ek dubki lagaane ka prayaas kiyaa aur is sandarbh main jo hasil hua use aap sabke saamne rakhaa hai.With regardslalkitabeelalkitab , "bhuwanvashishtha" <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote:> Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee,> > With due respect I want to add that the only reference of court case > occurs in these lines { Lal Kitab , page 610 urdu ed1952 ,Shani 5 -> mandi halat # 2 }> > " tamaam jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor farebi bhi bane, > phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb hoga / go ahle-qalam magar nirdhan > hi hoga / muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara hoga / "> > Therefore, the possibility of court cases will be if he has a lot of > hair on his body. > > With respect to all gurujan,> > bhuwan> > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , "lalkitabee" <lalkitabee> wrote:> > Respected Mudit Ji & Sehgal JI> > Sorry for going between both of you.Yes Mudit is right in > his > > way but another factor about this is --- if jupiter is in 9th and > it > > seems to be PIDIT by moon or any other pattern of drishti or by > sukra> > (Venus)then "Shani ka andhera surya ki roshni ko Kanoon (Jupiter) > ki > > takat se mandaa karne ki koshish karega kyonki pidit jupiter in 9th > > Saturn ki drishti main hoga aur uska maksad surya ko dabaana hoga > > (agar mandaa ho)isi karan lalkitab main mukaddmain ke vakyaat ka > > jikra kiya gaya hai.Matalab yeh hai ki yadi 9th main mandaa jupiter > > ho to surya ka noor (aura) ghataane ke lihaz se mandaa shani DIMAGI > > KHANA NO. 15 se mushtarkaa hone ke kaaran mukaddma aur jail ka > karan > > ban sakta hai.Jaisa ki mudit ji ne kaha hai.Aur kundli ki tafsil > isi > > ke mutabik jaanchne ke baad upay karna thik hoga varnaa manda shani > > 5th main bachche khane wala saanp jahir hogaa.Ab mande ye nek ka > > nirnay puri kundli ke mazboon ko janchte hue karnaa hogaa jaisa ki > > Mudut Ji ne kiya hai.Lalkitab main head per(jo ki rahu ki milkiyat > > hai)main 42 dimagi khano ka varnan hai.> > I written according to the lalkitab "shani khana no. 5"> > With respect> > > Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , "Mudit982001" <mudit982001> > > wrote:> > > Res. Rakesh ji,> > > Because Jupiter and Sun both are significator of 5th house.> > > Sun= Government and related Departments > > > Jupiter= Law> > > This is my observation! and you try to apply this in that > > horoscopes > > > you see Saturn in 5th house once a time that person definately go > > to > > > court in any matter. check it. If saturn aspected or related with > > > papi enemy planet some time person compel to take "BAIL".> > > I again ask it is my observation do not take it otherwise.> > > with regards.> > > mudit982001> > > lalkitab , "rakeshsahgal" > <rakeshsahgal> > > > wrote:> > > > Mudit Bhai> > > > > > > > Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal sirf itna > ki > > > aapne> > > > kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat are > > enemies.> > > > > > > > Thanks in advance> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > RS> > > > > > > > lalkitab , "Mudit982001" > <mudit982001>> > > > wrote:> > > > > dear Rakesh ji,> > > > > Saturn is enemy of Sun> > > > > mudit982001> > > > > --- In lalkitab , "rakeshsahgal" > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > Mudit Jee> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana #5. > Why > > > this> > > > > > particular symptom?> > > > > > > > > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the > reference > > > to > > > > > legal> > > > > > matters?> > > > > > > > > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal position > and> > > > also > > > > > (2)> > > > > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related to > law?> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , "Mudit982001" > > > <mudit982001>> > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava> > > > <rajni4051> > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below written > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste Mali > > halat > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how to > get > > > Surya> > > > > > kee > > > > > > > madad?> > > > > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. BANDAR > > SURYA > > > KI> > > > > > CHIZ > > > > > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn Badam> > > > Mandir> > > > > > mEn > > > > > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the > weight > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For > Long > > > that > > > > > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam kundli > > and> > > > is > > > > > in > > > > > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. > Should > > it> > > > be > > > > > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 months? > > Kindly > > > > > reply.> > > > > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK HIM > > > > > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE?> > > > > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN?> > > > > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY?> > > > > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN.> > > > > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL.> > > > > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2004 Report Share Posted July 15, 2004 Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, Ref : res Rajni jee's query whether she should go ahead with two upaya one of ` aam ke pedh par doodh' and second ` mandir mein baadam le jakar wapas sthapit karna' I have a few observations to make with a request to you that you should go through them and give your final verdict whether it is right or not. First the ` aam ke pedh par dudh upaya' [ 1 ] Mercury and Saturn jointly [ mushtaraka ] are the karak of a mango tree [ page 890 of urdu ed 1952 ] but both these planets are considered joint only till the age of 39/40 { dono 39/40 salaa umra tak mushtaraka honge / mushtaraka milawat mein budh 4 hisse to shani 5 hisse hoga / page 890 }. [ 2 ] Even if the age were 39/40 , still both these planets could not have been considered as joint because they are in the 5th house where they are to be considered as separate planets and not as joint planets [ baki ghar apana-apana phal hoga for 1,3,5,6,8 & 10 / page 891] Therefore the `aam ke pedh par dudh' upaya can not be done.. Even otherwise milk could not have been used because moon is placed in the 9th house of the varsh phal . It is because of this moon mercury in the 5th house `jaag gaya hai'. And ` jaaga hua budh 5 mein ashubh hota hai.' Thus the upaya has to be done for both the planets separately . Upaya for the mercury in the 5th is essential because : " guru chandra jab teve manda budh zahreela hota ho / 3, chauthe , 7 , 9 graha baitha ; raakh hua sab jalataa ho/ " The upaya mentioned is : Wear a copper coin round the neck ` gale mein tambe ka paisa khazane ki barkat dega [ page 556 urdu ed 1952 ] Now regarding the upaya for Saturn in the 5th house both in the janma kundali and the varsh phal. ` varsh phal mein baadam mandir mein le jakar aadhe vapas la kar ghar mein qayam rakhen – page 609 ] shani ko mandir mein le jakar nek neeyatee ki qasam dilwana. Therefore the upaya will be ; Take 10 sabut baadam [ whole almonds with shell ] to the temple for FIVE days regularly. Offer all the ten there in front of the idol . Of these 10 almonds leave 5 there and bring back with you the other 5 as a blessed prasaad . Thus at the end of the five days there will be 25 almonds at the house which have been brought back from the temple. Keep them tied in a piece of yellow cloth. Do not eat them. But why 10 baadam and not 1/10 th of the weight etc. The logic is that the almonds at home should be in the multiples of 5 signifying the 5th house. Therefore the minimum number has to be 10 to be carried to the temple then only there will be five almonds at home for each day. The other facts contained in the letter of res Rajni jee like no son, age of the grandfather and the father, loss of money through speculation , court case etc are all varifiable from the janma Kundali With respect for all the gurujan, bhuwan lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> wrote: > > Respected lalkitabeeji, Mudit ji and all group members, > > I am thrilled to have your attention on this i.e. Shani #5. > > Below written is my husband's teva and I describe all in detail. > > Please take a little pain to give some direction to me. > > {DOB 07/07/1947 TOB 00:20 SHARP POB MAYYAR HALT (HARYANA) LONGITUDE 075.46-E LATITUDE 029.10-N} > > Lagan is Meen or Rassi#12 is written in Khana No.1 > > Mangal+ Rahu in khana no.3 > > Surya+ Shukra in no.4 > > Shani+ Budh in no.5 > > Guru in no.8 > > Ketu in no.9 > > Chandra in 11 > > He has two elder brothers and two elder sisters > > Grandfather died when my husband was 8 years old and the old man was 79, Father died in 1980 he was 77 years old, Mother died in 1991 she was 84 years old, Eldest sister died in 2004 and she was73 > > He had a bad company in his teen age and started smoking, drinking, meat eating and gambling. Passed his matriculation in 1963, B.A in 1972 in 2nd. Division. With the help of his brother in law (Jija) he got job in a Bank as Cashier on 3rd. of July 1972.Got married in 1974.First daughter was born in 1974, second in 1977 and third in1985. Of course no SON. > > Lost a lot of money in Gambling until 1989. In 1989 he got Lal kitab from one of his friends and started studying it and believe me he stopped gambling. > > Purchased a big house in 1991 and sold in 1998 for almost 3500000/- earned profit of about 2200000/- but lost in shares. > > He received many financial help from his eldest brother who is settled in USA. > > Our two daughters are US citizen and doing very well there. > > In 1988 a friend (son of an advocate) came and asked my husband to identify him in the office of sub registrar on a sale deed of land worth Rs.1900000/- which his friend purchased from some unknown person who was introduced by some other advocate .My husband says he identified his friend but the ambiguous legal language on the document which he signed shows that the identification was of seller. > > The seller was fraud. > > After ten years real owner appeared and lodge, a criminal complaint/case against my husband as the first witness who was an advocate died in an accident in 1993. > > Therefore, since 1999 my husband is on bail and attending court regularly. (This case is about to solve in his favour as the purchaser has paid again the price of the land after negotiation). > > Regarding hair on body, I must say " sare sareer par kam aur baareek bal hen " > > In fact, now my husband is a gem of person very coop. adjusting nature, but at present, he has only one bad habit (hence this email) i.e. daily drinking since last 20 years or more in the night (probably never in the day time) and with a limit of 150 mi. He himself wants to get rid of this bad habit but maybe his stars do not allow or require any remedy > > His 58th. Varsphal is below written. > > Mangal+ Rahu #2 > > Ketu #3 > > Shani+ Budh #5 > > Surya+ Shukra #7 > > Guru #8 > > Chandra #9 > > Kindly suggest should he Do " Aam ke Vreksh pe dudh " wala upai or not. In addition, Badam Mandir lejakar adhey vapis la kar ghar me kayam rekhna. > > Though this is a long letter but it is according to demand. > > Rajni > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee> wrote: > Priya bhuvan ji > You wrote realy in direction but > " MAINE LALKITAB KE EK PURVAVARTI ADDITION MAIN ISKI TAFSIL KUCHH IS > TARAH BHI PADHI HAI ---- Agar jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor > farebi bhi bane,phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb aur mandaa haal > khud apna aur aulad ka ho budh ka upay madadgaar hoga lagaataar 100 > din tak/ aise shaks main pita ya surya ke asar ka nek nishan ka naam > tak bhi na hoga/ go ahle-qalam magar nirdhan ,chor farebi fir bhi > hoga/tanghaal , bhola baadshaah hoga /DIMAGI KHANA NO. 15 BRIHASPATI > SE MUSHTARKA KHUDDARI , muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara > hoga HOVE. " > ACCORDING TO THIS SHANI NO. 5 GURU NO. 9 KO GURU KI MUFSIL > MAIN PADHNAA BHI JAROORI HAI.AUR IS BAAT KA KHAAS KHYAAL RAKHNAA BHI > JAROORI HAI KI GURU AUR SHANI KE MANDE YA PIDIT NA HONE PER AUR SHUBH > GRAHO SE DRISHT HONE PER " GURU SHANI MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN > LEVAIN AUR PIDIT YA MANDE HONE PER BHI MANDI HALAT MAIN " GURU SHANI > MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN LEVAIN. > PRIYA BHUVAN aapne iski nishani bilkul spasht ki hai ki " agar > jism per jyada baal ho to " lekin saath yeh bhi jaroori hai ki beshak > jism per jyadaa baal ho agar guru manda na ho aur shani mandaa na > kiyaa jaye to chor farebi to kya choro ka sardar hote hue bhi aisa > sanyaasi hoga jiski maya ka bhed na jana ja sake ,matalab yeh hai ki > yadi neki ke kaan kartaa rahegaa aur seena dhakker rahega to duniyan > main naam aur daam dono kamayega.Agar seena kholker chalegaa to shani > sareaam katl bhi karvaa saktaa hai bhale hi kitnaa naam aur daam kyon > na kamaa le kuch bhi use bachaa nahi payegaa.Kyonki nek shani bhi > jiske shareer per adhik baal hovain seena khula rakhne per ya saanp > marvaane per ya rahu ke 8th main hone per chhat badalwane per (Khaas > taur per TOILET ki chhat badalwane per mandaa ho jayegaa.Ab sawaal > hai ki yadi sharir per jyaada baal ho to nek shani ka nirnay kaise > kiyaa jaye.iske liye kundli main rahu ki tafsil ko dekhte hue uske > mande vakyaat ka jikra kiya jaye aur guru ya shani kisse pidit hain > to uska faislaa kiyaa jaye maslan 12th main budh aur 5th main shani > guru 9th main ho to guru to budh se dhoke ki nazar per baitha hogaa > lekin mandaa shani budh ko takraav degaa kyonki 12th ka budh 25% > nazar shani ke headquarter per bhi rakhe hai isi karan takraav ka > jehari (shani) shaks ke dwara mandaa ker liye jane per guru ko dhoka > dene ke asool ke khilaaf jahar uglega , budh ka tedhaa daant saanp ki > thaili se is jehar ko nikalne ka sabab banker kisi ko maar dene ki > taqat ya mande vaqt ka karan bhi banega lekin saanp ka apnaa vazood > khatrey main padne per vahi saanp marne maarne ke asool per chal > padegaa kyonki use to aulad ka asr mandaa karne ke liye pratyek shart > manzoor hogi.Aulad to mandi hogi hi. > Aisa maine aap aur mudit ji ke nazariye ko lalkitab ke dayre main hi > aur adhik vistrit karne ka prayaas kiyaa hai.ummid hai ki mere is > nazariye ke mutabik SHANI NO. 5 ko samajhne main adhik madad milegi > aur aap sabhi adhik badhia chintan ker sakenge.Vaise lalkitab ek > samudra hai maine ek dubki lagaane ka prayaas kiyaa aur is sandarbh > main jo hasil hua use aap sabke saamne rakhaa hai. > With regards > lalkitabee > > lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > > > With due respect I want to add that the only reference of court > case > > occurs in these lines { Lal Kitab , page 610 urdu ed1952 ,Shani 5 - > > mandi halat # 2 } > > > > " tamaam jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor farebi bhi bane, > > phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb hoga / go ahle-qalam magar > nirdhan > > hi hoga / muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara hoga / " > > > > Therefore, the possibility of court cases will be if he has a lot > of > > hair on his body. > > > > With respect to all gurujan, > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> > wrote: > > > Respected Mudit Ji & Sehgal JI > > > Sorry for going between both of you.Yes Mudit is right in > > his > > > way but another factor about this is --- if jupiter is in 9th and > > it > > > seems to be PIDIT by moon or any other pattern of drishti or by > > sukra > > > (Venus)then " Shani ka andhera surya ki roshni ko Kanoon (Jupiter) > > ki > > > takat se mandaa karne ki koshish karega kyonki pidit jupiter in > 9th > > > Saturn ki drishti main hoga aur uska maksad surya ko dabaana hoga > > > (agar mandaa ho)isi karan lalkitab main mukaddmain ke vakyaat ka > > > jikra kiya gaya hai.Matalab yeh hai ki yadi 9th main mandaa > jupiter > > > ho to surya ka noor (aura) ghataane ke lihaz se mandaa shani > DIMAGI > > > KHANA NO. 15 se mushtarkaa hone ke kaaran mukaddma aur jail ka > > karan > > > ban sakta hai.Jaisa ki mudit ji ne kaha hai.Aur kundli ki tafsil > > isi > > > ke mutabik jaanchne ke baad upay karna thik hoga varnaa manda > shani > > > 5th main bachche khane wala saanp jahir hogaa.Ab mande ye nek ka > > > nirnay puri kundli ke mazboon ko janchte hue karnaa hogaa jaisa > ki > > > Mudut Ji ne kiya hai.Lalkitab main head per(jo ki rahu ki > milkiyat > > > hai)main 42 dimagi khano ka varnan hai. > > > I written according to the lalkitab " shani khana no. 5 " > > > With respect > > > > > > Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " <mudit982001> > > > wrote: > > > > Res. Rakesh ji, > > > > Because Jupiter and Sun both are significator of 5th house. > > > > Sun= Government and related Departments > > > > Jupiter= Law > > > > This is my observation! and you try to apply this in that > > > horoscopes > > > > you see Saturn in 5th house once a time that person definately > go > > > to > > > > court in any matter. check it. If saturn aspected or related > with > > > > papi enemy planet some time person compel to take " BAIL " . > > > > I again ask it is my observation do not take it otherwise. > > > > with regards. > > > > mudit982001 > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Mudit Bhai > > > > > > > > > > Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal sirf itna > > ki > > > > aapne > > > > > kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat are > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > RS > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > <mudit982001> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > dear Rakesh ji, > > > > > > Saturn is enemy of Sun > > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Mudit Jee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana #5. > > Why > > > > this > > > > > > > particular symptom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the > > reference > > > > to > > > > > > legal > > > > > > > matters? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal position > > and > > > > > also > > > > > > (2) > > > > > > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related to > > law? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava > > > > > <rajni4051> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below > written > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste Mali > > > halat > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how to > > get > > > > Surya > > > > > > > kee > > > > > > > > madad? > > > > > > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. BANDAR > > > SURYA > > > > KI > > > > > > > CHIZ > > > > > > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn > Badam > > > > > Mandir > > > > > > > mEn > > > > > > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the > > weight > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For > > Long > > > > that > > > > > > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam > kundli > > > and > > > > > is > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. > > Should > > > it > > > > > be > > > > > > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 months? > > > Kindly > > > > > > reply. > > > > > > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK HIM > > > > > > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN? > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > > > > > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > > > > > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > > > > > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2004 Report Share Posted July 16, 2004 Priya Bhuvan U r right.But before going for the remedy of BADAAMS ,it is also compulsry to know that where is sukra' in janm kundli & varsh fal.If In varshfal sani & budh come to the 5th & according to u chandra is in 9th & sukra may be in 4th then 1st of all necessery to do remedy for sukra.Because sajhi diwar ke assol per sukra shani ko apne mande asar se door nahi rahne dega & veh aadmi buri aadtain chhodne ki bajay unki taraf badhegaa aur baad main chot lagne per pachhtayega lekin fir bhi door nahi hat sakegaa.So 1st of all sukra ki remedy after that Shani ka badaam walaa upay.If Guru is in sound position then prescribe that remedy which make concern between ANDHERA & UJALA.I mean budh ke dayre main suraakh karo taaki guru ki hawaa ander baahar aaye jaaye aur budh ka tedhaa daant jehari (shani) ki thaili main se jehar nikaalne main nakaamyaab ho jaaye.Aapne lalkitab main padha hoga ki guru ki hawaa hi shishe ke gole ke ander baher ghoomti hai.Isi karan budh shatru hai guru ka.Aur ye agar jehri ke andhere ki taqat ko badhaye aur guru per mili maar kare to iskaa upay karnaa bhi jaroori hai.Now prescribe remedies after analyzing this. Best wishes Lalkitabee lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > Ref : res Rajni jee's query whether she should go ahead with two > upaya one of ` aam ke pedh par doodh' and second ` mandir mein baadam > le jakar wapas sthapit karna' > > I have a few observations to make with a request to you that you > should go through them and give your final verdict whether it is > right or not. > > First the ` aam ke pedh par dudh upaya' > > [ 1 ] Mercury and Saturn jointly [ mushtaraka ] are the karak of a > mango tree [ page 890 of urdu ed 1952 ] but both these planets are > considered joint only till the age of 39/40 { dono 39/40 salaa > umra tak mushtaraka honge / mushtaraka milawat mein budh 4 hisse to > shani 5 hisse hoga / page 890 }. > > [ 2 ] Even if the age were 39/40 , still both these planets could not > have been considered as joint because they are in the 5th house > where they are to be considered as separate planets and not as joint > planets [ baki ghar apana-apana phal hoga for 1,3,5,6,8 & 10 / page > 891] > > Therefore the `aam ke pedh par dudh' upaya can not be done.. Even > otherwise milk could not have been used because moon is placed in the > 9th house of the varsh phal . It is because of this moon mercury in > the 5th house `jaag gaya hai'. And ` jaaga hua budh 5 mein ashubh > hota hai.' > > Thus the upaya has to be done for both the planets separately . > > Upaya for the mercury in the 5th is essential because : > > " guru chandra jab teve manda budh zahreela hota ho / > 3, chauthe , 7 , 9 graha baitha ; raakh hua sab jalataa ho/ " > > The upaya mentioned is : Wear a copper coin round the neck ` gale > mein tambe ka paisa khazane ki barkat dega [ page 556 urdu ed 1952 ] > > Now regarding the upaya for Saturn in the 5th house both in the > janma kundali and the varsh phal. > > ` varsh phal mein baadam mandir mein le jakar aadhe vapas la kar ghar > mein qayam rakhen – page 609 ] > shani ko mandir mein le jakar nek neeyatee ki qasam dilwana. > > Therefore the upaya will be ; > > Take 10 sabut baadam [ whole almonds with shell ] to the temple for > FIVE days regularly. Offer all the ten there in front of the idol . > Of these 10 almonds leave 5 there and bring back with you the other 5 > as a blessed prasaad . Thus at the end of the five days there will > be 25 almonds at the house which have been brought back from the > temple. Keep them tied in a piece of yellow cloth. Do not eat them. > > But why 10 baadam and not 1/10 th of the weight etc. The logic is > that the almonds at home should be in the multiples of 5 signifying > the 5th house. Therefore the minimum number has to be 10 to be > carried to the temple then only there will be five almonds at home > for each day. > > The other facts contained in the letter of res Rajni jee like no son, > age of the grandfather and the father, loss of money through > speculation , court case etc are all varifiable from the janma Kundali > > With respect for all the gurujan, > > bhuwan > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> > wrote: > > > > Respected lalkitabeeji, Mudit ji and all group members, > > > > I am thrilled to have your attention on this i.e. Shani #5. > > > > Below written is my husband's teva and I describe all in detail. > > > > Please take a little pain to give some direction to me. > > > > {DOB 07/07/1947 TOB 00:20 SHARP POB MAYYAR HALT (HARYANA) LONGITUDE > 075.46-E LATITUDE 029.10-N} > > > > Lagan is Meen or Rassi#12 is written in Khana No.1 > > > > Mangal+ Rahu in khana no.3 > > > > Surya+ Shukra in no.4 > > > > Shani+ Budh in no.5 > > > > Guru in no.8 > > > > Ketu in no.9 > > > > Chandra in 11 > > > > He has two elder brothers and two elder sisters > > > > Grandfather died when my husband was 8 years old and the old man > was 79, Father died in 1980 he was 77 years old, Mother died in 1991 > she was 84 years old, Eldest sister died in 2004 and she was73 > > > > He had a bad company in his teen age and started smoking, drinking, > meat eating and gambling. Passed his matriculation in 1963, B.A in > 1972 in 2nd. Division. With the help of his brother in law (Jija) he > got job in a Bank as Cashier on 3rd. of July 1972.Got married in > 1974.First daughter was born in 1974, second in 1977 and third > in1985. Of course no SON. > > > > Lost a lot of money in Gambling until 1989. In 1989 he got Lal > kitab from one of his friends and started studying it and believe me > he stopped gambling. > > > > Purchased a big house in 1991 and sold in 1998 for almost 3500000/- > earned profit of about 2200000/- but lost in shares. > > > > He received many financial help from his eldest brother who is > settled in USA. > > > > Our two daughters are US citizen and doing very well there. > > > > In 1988 a friend (son of an advocate) came and asked my husband to > identify him in the office of sub registrar on a sale deed of land > worth Rs.1900000/- which his friend purchased from some unknown > person who was introduced by some other advocate .My husband says he > identified his friend but the ambiguous legal language on the > document which he signed shows that the identification was of seller. > > > > The seller was fraud. > > > > After ten years real owner appeared and lodge, a criminal > complaint/case against my husband as the first witness who was an > advocate died in an accident in 1993. > > > > Therefore, since 1999 my husband is on bail and attending court > regularly. (This case is about to solve in his favour as the > purchaser has paid again the price of the land after negotiation). > > > > Regarding hair on body, I must say " sare sareer par kam aur baareek > bal hen " > > > > In fact, now my husband is a gem of person very coop. adjusting > nature, but at present, he has only one bad habit (hence this email) > i.e. daily drinking since last 20 years or more in the night > (probably never in the day time) and with a limit of 150 mi. He > himself wants to get rid of this bad habit but maybe his stars do not > allow or require any remedy > > > > His 58th. Varsphal is below written. > > > > Mangal+ Rahu #2 > > > > Ketu #3 > > > > Shani+ Budh #5 > > > > Surya+ Shukra #7 > > > > Guru #8 > > > > Chandra #9 > > > > Kindly suggest should he Do " Aam ke Vreksh pe dudh " wala upai or > not. In addition, Badam Mandir lejakar adhey vapis la kar ghar me > kayam rekhna. > > > > Though this is a long letter but it is according to demand. > > > > > Rajni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee> wrote: > > Priya bhuvan ji > > You wrote realy in direction but > > " MAINE LALKITAB KE EK PURVAVARTI ADDITION MAIN ISKI TAFSIL KUCHH IS > > TARAH BHI PADHI HAI ---- Agar jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq > chor > > farebi bhi bane,phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb aur mandaa haal > > khud apna aur aulad ka ho budh ka upay madadgaar hoga lagaataar 100 > > din tak/ aise shaks main pita ya surya ke asar ka nek nishan ka > naam > > tak bhi na hoga/ go ahle-qalam magar nirdhan ,chor farebi fir bhi > > hoga/tanghaal , bhola baadshaah hoga /DIMAGI KHANA NO. 15 > BRIHASPATI > > SE MUSHTARKA KHUDDARI , muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara > > hoga HOVE. " > > ACCORDING TO THIS SHANI NO. 5 GURU NO. 9 KO GURU KI MUFSIL > > MAIN PADHNAA BHI JAROORI HAI.AUR IS BAAT KA KHAAS KHYAAL RAKHNAA > BHI > > JAROORI HAI KI GURU AUR SHANI KE MANDE YA PIDIT NA HONE PER AUR > SHUBH > > GRAHO SE DRISHT HONE PER " GURU SHANI MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN > > LEVAIN AUR PIDIT YA MANDE HONE PER BHI MANDI HALAT MAIN " GURU SHANI > > MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN LEVAIN. > > PRIYA BHUVAN aapne iski nishani bilkul spasht ki hai ki " agar > > jism per jyada baal ho to " lekin saath yeh bhi jaroori hai ki > beshak > > jism per jyadaa baal ho agar guru manda na ho aur shani mandaa na > > kiyaa jaye to chor farebi to kya choro ka sardar hote hue bhi aisa > > sanyaasi hoga jiski maya ka bhed na jana ja sake ,matalab yeh hai > ki > > yadi neki ke kaan kartaa rahegaa aur seena dhakker rahega to > duniyan > > main naam aur daam dono kamayega.Agar seena kholker chalegaa to > shani > > sareaam katl bhi karvaa saktaa hai bhale hi kitnaa naam aur daam > kyon > > na kamaa le kuch bhi use bachaa nahi payegaa.Kyonki nek shani bhi > > jiske shareer per adhik baal hovain seena khula rakhne per ya saanp > > marvaane per ya rahu ke 8th main hone per chhat badalwane per > (Khaas > > taur per TOILET ki chhat badalwane per mandaa ho jayegaa.Ab sawaal > > hai ki yadi sharir per jyaada baal ho to nek shani ka nirnay kaise > > kiyaa jaye.iske liye kundli main rahu ki tafsil ko dekhte hue uske > > mande vakyaat ka jikra kiya jaye aur guru ya shani kisse pidit > hain > > to uska faislaa kiyaa jaye maslan 12th main budh aur 5th main shani > > guru 9th main ho to guru to budh se dhoke ki nazar per baitha hogaa > > lekin mandaa shani budh ko takraav degaa kyonki 12th ka budh 25% > > nazar shani ke headquarter per bhi rakhe hai isi karan takraav ka > > jehari (shani) shaks ke dwara mandaa ker liye jane per guru ko > dhoka > > dene ke asool ke khilaaf jahar uglega , budh ka tedhaa daant saanp > ki > > thaili se is jehar ko nikalne ka sabab banker kisi ko maar dene > ki > > taqat ya mande vaqt ka karan bhi banega lekin saanp ka apnaa vazood > > khatrey main padne per vahi saanp marne maarne ke asool per chal > > padegaa kyonki use to aulad ka asr mandaa karne ke liye pratyek > shart > > manzoor hogi.Aulad to mandi hogi hi. > > Aisa maine aap aur mudit ji ke nazariye ko lalkitab ke dayre main > hi > > aur adhik vistrit karne ka prayaas kiyaa hai.ummid hai ki mere is > > nazariye ke mutabik SHANI NO. 5 ko samajhne main adhik madad milegi > > aur aap sabhi adhik badhia chintan ker sakenge.Vaise lalkitab ek > > samudra hai maine ek dubki lagaane ka prayaas kiyaa aur is sandarbh > > main jo hasil hua use aap sabke saamne rakhaa hai. > > With regards > > lalkitabee > > > > lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " > > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > > > > > With due respect I want to add that the only reference of court > > case > > > occurs in these lines { Lal Kitab , page 610 urdu ed1952 ,Shani > 5 - > > > mandi halat # 2 } > > > > > > " tamaam jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor farebi bhi bane, > > > phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb hoga / go ahle-qalam magar > > nirdhan > > > hi hoga / muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara hoga / " > > > > > > Therefore, the possibility of court cases will be if he has a lot > > of > > > hair on his body. > > > > > > With respect to all gurujan, > > > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> > > wrote: > > > > Respected Mudit Ji & Sehgal JI > > > > Sorry for going between both of you.Yes Mudit is right > in > > > his > > > > way but another factor about this is --- if jupiter is in 9th > and > > > it > > > > seems to be PIDIT by moon or any other pattern of drishti or by > > > sukra > > > > (Venus)then " Shani ka andhera surya ki roshni ko Kanoon > (Jupiter) > > > ki > > > > takat se mandaa karne ki koshish karega kyonki pidit jupiter in > > 9th > > > > Saturn ki drishti main hoga aur uska maksad surya ko dabaana > hoga > > > > (agar mandaa ho)isi karan lalkitab main mukaddmain ke vakyaat > ka > > > > jikra kiya gaya hai.Matalab yeh hai ki yadi 9th main mandaa > > jupiter > > > > ho to surya ka noor (aura) ghataane ke lihaz se mandaa shani > > DIMAGI > > > > KHANA NO. 15 se mushtarkaa hone ke kaaran mukaddma aur jail ka > > > karan > > > > ban sakta hai.Jaisa ki mudit ji ne kaha hai.Aur kundli ki > tafsil > > > isi > > > > ke mutabik jaanchne ke baad upay karna thik hoga varnaa manda > > shani > > > > 5th main bachche khane wala saanp jahir hogaa.Ab mande ye nek > ka > > > > nirnay puri kundli ke mazboon ko janchte hue karnaa hogaa jaisa > > ki > > > > Mudut Ji ne kiya hai.Lalkitab main head per(jo ki rahu ki > > milkiyat > > > > hai)main 42 dimagi khano ka varnan hai. > > > > I written according to the lalkitab " shani khana no. 5 " > > > > With respect > > > > > > > > > > Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > <mudit982001> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Res. Rakesh ji, > > > > > Because Jupiter and Sun both are significator of 5th house. > > > > > Sun= Government and related Departments > > > > > Jupiter= Law > > > > > This is my observation! and you try to apply this in that > > > > horoscopes > > > > > you see Saturn in 5th house once a time that person > definately > > go > > > > to > > > > > court in any matter. check it. If saturn aspected or related > > with > > > > > papi enemy planet some time person compel to take " BAIL " . > > > > > I again ask it is my observation do not take it otherwise. > > > > > with > regards. > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Mudit Bhai > > > > > > > > > > > > Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal sirf > itna > > > ki > > > > > aapne > > > > > > kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat are > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > RS > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > dear Rakesh ji, > > > > > > > Saturn is enemy of Sun > > > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Mudit Jee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana > #5. > > > Why > > > > > this > > > > > > > > particular symptom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the > > > reference > > > > > to > > > > > > > legal > > > > > > > > matters? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal > position > > > and > > > > > > also > > > > > > > (2) > > > > > > > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related > to > > > law? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava > > > > > > <rajni4051> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below > > written > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste > Mali > > > > halat > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how > to > > > get > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > kee > > > > > > > > > madad? > > > > > > > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. > BANDAR > > > > SURYA > > > > > KI > > > > > > > > CHIZ > > > > > > > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn > > Badam > > > > > > Mandir > > > > > > > > mEn > > > > > > > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the > > > weight > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For > > > Long > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam > > kundli > > > > and > > > > > > is > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. > > > Should > > > > it > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 > months? > > > > Kindly > > > > > > > reply. > > > > > > > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK > HIM > > > > > > > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN? > > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > > > > > > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > > > > > > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > > > > > > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, { this is for your perusal } Studying the kundali as per your instructions: [ 1 ]In the Varsh Phal Venus is not in the adjacent { sanjhi-deewar } house to either saturn or mercury. Venus is in the 7th house where as saturn and mercury are in the 5th house. However in the Janma kundali venus is in the adjacent house . In this case the upaya would be to throw the karak objects of jupiter in the well for four days regularly. [ 2 ] " budh ke dayare mein guru ki hawa pahuchane ke liye " .. the best upaya in my opinion would be to do ' naak chhedan 'and insert a silver ring or a stud { keel or long } and keep it for 96 hours. But no male jatak would get it done , therefore the alternative is to get a silver stud inserted in one of the tooth...'daant mein chandi ki keel lagwana'this is a very common and easy process , a dentist drills a minute hole through a tooth and inserts a very thin silver wire across.It has become quite fashionable , for young girls ,these days to get gold or silver studs fixed to their teeth . would be obliged to have your views on it. with respect and regards for all the gurujan, bhuwan lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> wrote: > Priya Bhuvan > U r right.But before going for the remedy of BADAAMS ,it is also > compulsry to know that where is sukra' in janm kundli & varsh fal.If > In varshfal sani & budh come to the 5th & according to u chandra is > in 9th & sukra may be in 4th then 1st of all necessery to do remedy > for sukra.Because sajhi diwar ke assol per sukra shani ko apne mande > asar se door nahi rahne dega & veh aadmi buri aadtain chhodne ki > bajay unki taraf badhegaa aur baad main chot lagne per pachhtayega > lekin fir bhi door nahi hat sakegaa.So 1st of all sukra ki remedy > after that Shani ka badaam walaa upay.If Guru is in sound position > then prescribe that remedy which make concern between ANDHERA & > UJALA.I mean budh ke dayre main suraakh karo taaki guru ki hawaa > ander baahar aaye jaaye aur budh ka tedhaa daant jehari (shani) ki > thaili main se jehar nikaalne main nakaamyaab ho jaaye.Aapne lalkitab > main padha hoga ki guru ki hawaa hi shishe ke gole ke ander baher > ghoomti hai.Isi karan budh shatru hai guru ka.Aur ye agar jehri ke > andhere ki taqat ko badhaye aur guru per mili maar kare to iskaa upay > karnaa bhi jaroori hai.Now prescribe remedies after analyzing this. > Best wishes > Lalkitabee > > lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > > > Ref : res Rajni jee's query whether she should go ahead with two > > upaya one of ` aam ke pedh par doodh' and second ` mandir mein > baadam > > le jakar wapas sthapit karna' > > > > I have a few observations to make with a request to you that you > > should go through them and give your final verdict whether it is > > right or not. > > > > First the ` aam ke pedh par dudh upaya' > > > > [ 1 ] Mercury and Saturn jointly [ mushtaraka ] are the karak of a > > mango tree [ page 890 of urdu ed 1952 ] but both these planets are > > considered joint only till the age of 39/40 { dono 39/40 salaa > > umra tak mushtaraka honge / mushtaraka milawat mein budh 4 hisse to > > shani 5 hisse hoga / page 890 }. > > > > [ 2 ] Even if the age were 39/40 , still both these planets could > not > > have been considered as joint because they are in the 5th house > > where they are to be considered as separate planets and not as > joint > > planets [ baki ghar apana-apana phal hoga for 1,3,5,6,8 & 10 / > page > > 891] > > > > Therefore the `aam ke pedh par dudh' upaya can not be done.. Even > > otherwise milk could not have been used because moon is placed in > the > > 9th house of the varsh phal . It is because of this moon mercury in > > the 5th house `jaag gaya hai'. And ` jaaga hua budh 5 mein ashubh > > hota hai.' > > > > Thus the upaya has to be done for both the planets separately . > > > > Upaya for the mercury in the 5th is essential because : > > > > " guru chandra jab teve manda budh zahreela hota ho / > > 3, chauthe , 7 , 9 graha baitha ; raakh hua sab jalataa ho/ " > > > > The upaya mentioned is : Wear a copper coin round the neck ` gale > > mein tambe ka paisa khazane ki barkat dega [ page 556 urdu ed > 1952 ] > > > > Now regarding the upaya for Saturn in the 5th house both in the > > janma kundali and the varsh phal. > > > > ` varsh phal mein baadam mandir mein le jakar aadhe vapas la kar > ghar > > mein qayam rakhen – page 609 ] > > shani ko mandir mein le jakar nek neeyatee ki qasam dilwana. > > > > Therefore the upaya will be ; > > > > Take 10 sabut baadam [ whole almonds with shell ] to the temple > for > > FIVE days regularly. Offer all the ten there in front of the idol . > > Of these 10 almonds leave 5 there and bring back with you the other > 5 > > as a blessed prasaad . Thus at the end of the five days there will > > be 25 almonds at the house which have been brought back from the > > temple. Keep them tied in a piece of yellow cloth. Do not eat them. > > > > But why 10 baadam and not 1/10 th of the weight etc. The logic is > > that the almonds at home should be in the multiples of 5 signifying > > the 5th house. Therefore the minimum number has to be 10 to be > > carried to the temple then only there will be five almonds at home > > for each day. > > > > The other facts contained in the letter of res Rajni jee like no > son, > > age of the grandfather and the father, loss of money through > > speculation , court case etc are all varifiable from the janma > Kundali > > > > With respect for all the gurujan, > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected lalkitabeeji, Mudit ji and all group members, > > > > > > I am thrilled to have your attention on this i.e. Shani #5. > > > > > > Below written is my husband's teva and I describe all in detail. > > > > > > Please take a little pain to give some direction to me. > > > > > > {DOB 07/07/1947 TOB 00:20 SHARP POB MAYYAR HALT (HARYANA) > LONGITUDE > > 075.46-E LATITUDE 029.10-N} > > > > > > Lagan is Meen or Rassi#12 is written in Khana No.1 > > > > > > Mangal+ Rahu in khana no.3 > > > > > > Surya+ Shukra in no.4 > > > > > > Shani+ Budh in no.5 > > > > > > Guru in no.8 > > > > > > Ketu in no.9 > > > > > > Chandra in 11 > > > > > > He has two elder brothers and two elder sisters > > > > > > Grandfather died when my husband was 8 years old and the old man > > was 79, Father died in 1980 he was 77 years old, Mother died in > 1991 > > she was 84 years old, Eldest sister died in 2004 and she was73 > > > > > > He had a bad company in his teen age and started smoking, > drinking, > > meat eating and gambling. Passed his matriculation in 1963, B.A in > > 1972 in 2nd. Division. With the help of his brother in law (Jija) > he > > got job in a Bank as Cashier on 3rd. of July 1972.Got married in > > 1974.First daughter was born in 1974, second in 1977 and third > > in1985. Of course no SON. > > > > > > Lost a lot of money in Gambling until 1989. In 1989 he got Lal > > kitab from one of his friends and started studying it and believe > me > > he stopped gambling. > > > > > > Purchased a big house in 1991 and sold in 1998 for almost > 3500000/- > > earned profit of about 2200000/- but lost in shares. > > > > > > He received many financial help from his eldest brother who is > > settled in USA. > > > > > > Our two daughters are US citizen and doing very well there. > > > > > > In 1988 a friend (son of an advocate) came and asked my husband > to > > identify him in the office of sub registrar on a sale deed of land > > worth Rs.1900000/- which his friend purchased from some unknown > > person who was introduced by some other advocate .My husband says > he > > identified his friend but the ambiguous legal language on the > > document which he signed shows that the identification was of > seller. > > > > > > The seller was fraud. > > > > > > After ten years real owner appeared and lodge, a criminal > > complaint/case against my husband as the first witness who was an > > advocate died in an accident in 1993. > > > > > > Therefore, since 1999 my husband is on bail and attending court > > regularly. (This case is about to solve in his favour as the > > purchaser has paid again the price of the land after negotiation). > > > > > > Regarding hair on body, I must say " sare sareer par kam aur > baareek > > bal hen " > > > > > > In fact, now my husband is a gem of person very coop. adjusting > > nature, but at present, he has only one bad habit (hence this > email) > > i.e. daily drinking since last 20 years or more in the night > > (probably never in the day time) and with a limit of 150 mi. He > > himself wants to get rid of this bad habit but maybe his stars do > not > > allow or require any remedy > > > > > > His 58th. Varsphal is below written. > > > > > > Mangal+ Rahu #2 > > > > > > Ketu #3 > > > > > > Shani+ Budh #5 > > > > > > Surya+ Shukra #7 > > > > > > Guru #8 > > > > > > Chandra #9 > > > > > > Kindly suggest should he Do " Aam ke Vreksh pe dudh " wala upai or > > not. In addition, Badam Mandir lejakar adhey vapis la kar ghar me > > kayam rekhna. > > > > > > Though this is a long letter but it is according to demand. > > > > > > > > > Rajni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee> wrote: > > > Priya bhuvan ji > > > You wrote realy in direction but > > > " MAINE LALKITAB KE EK PURVAVARTI ADDITION MAIN ISKI TAFSIL KUCHH > IS > > > TARAH BHI PADHI HAI ---- Agar jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq > > chor > > > farebi bhi bane,phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb aur mandaa > haal > > > khud apna aur aulad ka ho budh ka upay madadgaar hoga lagaataar > 100 > > > din tak/ aise shaks main pita ya surya ke asar ka nek nishan ka > > naam > > > tak bhi na hoga/ go ahle-qalam magar nirdhan ,chor farebi fir bhi > > > hoga/tanghaal , bhola baadshaah hoga /DIMAGI KHANA NO. 15 > > BRIHASPATI > > > SE MUSHTARKA KHUDDARI , muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam > jhagara > > > hoga HOVE. " > > > ACCORDING TO THIS SHANI NO. 5 GURU NO. 9 KO GURU KI MUFSIL > > > MAIN PADHNAA BHI JAROORI HAI.AUR IS BAAT KA KHAAS KHYAAL RAKHNAA > > BHI > > > JAROORI HAI KI GURU AUR SHANI KE MANDE YA PIDIT NA HONE PER AUR > > SHUBH > > > GRAHO SE DRISHT HONE PER " GURU SHANI MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN > > > LEVAIN AUR PIDIT YA MANDE HONE PER BHI MANDI HALAT MAIN " GURU > SHANI > > > MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN LEVAIN. > > > PRIYA BHUVAN aapne iski nishani bilkul spasht ki hai > ki " agar > > > jism per jyada baal ho to " lekin saath yeh bhi jaroori hai ki > > beshak > > > jism per jyadaa baal ho agar guru manda na ho aur shani mandaa na > > > kiyaa jaye to chor farebi to kya choro ka sardar hote hue bhi > aisa > > > sanyaasi hoga jiski maya ka bhed na jana ja sake ,matalab yeh hai > > ki > > > yadi neki ke kaan kartaa rahegaa aur seena dhakker rahega to > > duniyan > > > main naam aur daam dono kamayega.Agar seena kholker chalegaa to > > shani > > > sareaam katl bhi karvaa saktaa hai bhale hi kitnaa naam aur daam > > kyon > > > na kamaa le kuch bhi use bachaa nahi payegaa.Kyonki nek shani bhi > > > jiske shareer per adhik baal hovain seena khula rakhne per ya > saanp > > > marvaane per ya rahu ke 8th main hone per chhat badalwane per > > (Khaas > > > taur per TOILET ki chhat badalwane per mandaa ho jayegaa.Ab > sawaal > > > hai ki yadi sharir per jyaada baal ho to nek shani ka nirnay > kaise > > > kiyaa jaye.iske liye kundli main rahu ki tafsil ko dekhte hue > uske > > > mande vakyaat ka jikra kiya jaye aur guru ya shani kisse pidit > > hain > > > to uska faislaa kiyaa jaye maslan 12th main budh aur 5th main > shani > > > guru 9th main ho to guru to budh se dhoke ki nazar per baitha > hogaa > > > lekin mandaa shani budh ko takraav degaa kyonki 12th ka budh 25% > > > nazar shani ke headquarter per bhi rakhe hai isi karan takraav ka > > > jehari (shani) shaks ke dwara mandaa ker liye jane per guru ko > > dhoka > > > dene ke asool ke khilaaf jahar uglega , budh ka tedhaa daant > saanp > > ki > > > thaili se is jehar ko nikalne ka sabab banker kisi ko maar dene > > ki > > > taqat ya mande vaqt ka karan bhi banega lekin saanp ka apnaa > vazood > > > khatrey main padne per vahi saanp marne maarne ke asool per chal > > > padegaa kyonki use to aulad ka asr mandaa karne ke liye pratyek > > shart > > > manzoor hogi.Aulad to mandi hogi hi. > > > Aisa maine aap aur mudit ji ke nazariye ko lalkitab ke dayre main > > hi > > > aur adhik vistrit karne ka prayaas kiyaa hai.ummid hai ki mere is > > > nazariye ke mutabik SHANI NO. 5 ko samajhne main adhik madad > milegi > > > aur aap sabhi adhik badhia chintan ker sakenge.Vaise lalkitab ek > > > samudra hai maine ek dubki lagaane ka prayaas kiyaa aur is > sandarbh > > > main jo hasil hua use aap sabke saamne rakhaa hai. > > > With regards > > > lalkitabee > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " > > > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > > > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > > > > > > > With due respect I want to add that the only reference of court > > > case > > > > occurs in these lines { Lal Kitab , page 610 urdu ed1952 ,Shani > > 5 - > > > > mandi halat # 2 } > > > > > > > > " tamaam jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor farebi bhi > bane, > > > > phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb hoga / go ahle-qalam magar > > > nirdhan > > > > hi hoga / muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara hoga / " > > > > > > > > Therefore, the possibility of court cases will be if he has a > lot > > > of > > > > hair on his body. > > > > > > > > With respect to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> > > > wrote: > > > > > Respected Mudit Ji & Sehgal JI > > > > > Sorry for going between both of you.Yes Mudit is right > > in > > > > his > > > > > way but another factor about this is --- if jupiter is in 9th > > and > > > > it > > > > > seems to be PIDIT by moon or any other pattern of drishti or > by > > > > sukra > > > > > (Venus)then " Shani ka andhera surya ki roshni ko Kanoon > > (Jupiter) > > > > ki > > > > > takat se mandaa karne ki koshish karega kyonki pidit jupiter > in > > > 9th > > > > > Saturn ki drishti main hoga aur uska maksad surya ko dabaana > > hoga > > > > > (agar mandaa ho)isi karan lalkitab main mukaddmain ke vakyaat > > ka > > > > > jikra kiya gaya hai.Matalab yeh hai ki yadi 9th main mandaa > > > jupiter > > > > > ho to surya ka noor (aura) ghataane ke lihaz se mandaa shani > > > DIMAGI > > > > > KHANA NO. 15 se mushtarkaa hone ke kaaran mukaddma aur jail > ka > > > > karan > > > > > ban sakta hai.Jaisa ki mudit ji ne kaha hai.Aur kundli ki > > tafsil > > > > isi > > > > > ke mutabik jaanchne ke baad upay karna thik hoga varnaa manda > > > shani > > > > > 5th main bachche khane wala saanp jahir hogaa.Ab mande ye nek > > ka > > > > > nirnay puri kundli ke mazboon ko janchte hue karnaa hogaa > jaisa > > > ki > > > > > Mudut Ji ne kiya hai.Lalkitab main head per(jo ki rahu ki > > > milkiyat > > > > > hai)main 42 dimagi khano ka varnan hai. > > > > > I written according to the lalkitab " shani khana no. 5 " > > > > > With respect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > <mudit982001> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Res. Rakesh ji, > > > > > > Because Jupiter and Sun both are significator of 5th house. > > > > > > Sun= Government and related Departments > > > > > > Jupiter= Law > > > > > > This is my observation! and you try to apply this in that > > > > > horoscopes > > > > > > you see Saturn in 5th house once a time that person > > definately > > > go > > > > > to > > > > > > court in any matter. check it. If saturn aspected or > related > > > with > > > > > > papi enemy planet some time person compel to take " BAIL " . > > > > > > I again ask it is my observation do not take it otherwise. > > > > > > with > > regards. > > > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Mudit Bhai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal sirf > > itna > > > > ki > > > > > > aapne > > > > > > > kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat > are > > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > dear Rakesh ji, > > > > > > > > Saturn is enemy of Sun > > > > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Mudit Jee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana > > #5. > > > > Why > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > particular symptom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the > > > > reference > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > legal > > > > > > > > > matters? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal > > position > > > > and > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > (2) > > > > > > > > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters > related > > to > > > > law? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava > > > > > > > <rajni4051> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below > > > written > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste > > Mali > > > > > halat > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how > > to > > > > get > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > kee > > > > > > > > > > madad? > > > > > > > > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. > > BANDAR > > > > > SURYA > > > > > > KI > > > > > > > > > CHIZ > > > > > > > > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal > mEn > > > Badam > > > > > > > Mandir > > > > > > > > > mEn > > > > > > > > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal > the > > > > weight > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. > For > > > > Long > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam > > > kundli > > > > > and > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July > 2004. > > > > Should > > > > > it > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 > > months? > > > > > Kindly > > > > > > > > reply. > > > > > > > > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK > > HIM > > > > > > > > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA > NAHIN? > > > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > > > > > > > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > > > > > > > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > > > > > > > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 Respected experts in lalkitab, I have also gone thruogh little bit in the matter and am reading the opinions of other members also.But so far no one has seen the combination of mars and rahu and the placement of these grahas w r t moon In 11th house.I think everybody is holding shani as the main reason. I request everybody to see the mars + rahu (specially in the varshphal) Mrs Rajni may i ask some qns to check the melefic nature of mars. with regards.May God forgive me. rakesh - In lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> wrote: > > Res pected lalkitabeeji, Mudit ji and all group members, > > I am thrilled to have your attention on this i.e. Shani #5. > > Below written is my husband's teva and I describe all in detail. > > Please take a little pain to give some direction to me. > > {DOB 07/07/1947 TOB 00:20 SHARP POB MAYYAR HALT (HARYANA) LONGITUDE 075.46-E LATITUDE 029.10-N} > > Lagan is Meen or Rassi#12 is written in Khana No.1 > > Mangal+ Rahu in khana no.3 > > Surya+ Shukra in no.4 > > Shani+ Budh in no.5 > > Guru in no.8 > > Ketu in no.9 > > Chandra in 11 > > He has two elder brothers and two elder sisters > > Grandfather died when my husband was 8 years old and the old man was 79, Father died in 1980 he was 77 years old, Mother died in 1991 she was 84 years old, Eldest sister died in 2004 and she was73 > > He had a bad company in his teen age and started smoking, drinking, meat eating and gambling. Passed his matriculation in 1963, B.A in 1972 in 2nd. Division. With the help of his brother in law (Jija) he got job in a Bank as Cashier on 3rd. of July 1972.Got married in 1974.First daughter was born in 1974, second in 1977 and third in1985. Of course no SON. > > Lost a lot of money in Gambling until 1989. In 1989 he got Lal kitab from one of his friends and started studying it and believe me he stopped gambling. > > Purchased a big house in 1991 and sold in 1998 for almost 3500000/- earned profit of about 2200000/- but lost in shares. > > He received many financial help from his eldest brother who is settled in USA. > > Our two daughters are US citizen and doing very well there. > > In 1988 a friend (son of an advocate) came and asked my husband to identify him in the office of sub registrar on a sale deed of land worth Rs.1900000/- which his friend purchased from some unknown person who was introduced by some other advocate .My husband says he identified his friend but the ambiguous legal language on the document which he signed shows that the identification was of seller. > > The seller was fraud. > > After ten years real owner appeared and lodge, a criminal complaint/case against my husband as the first witness who was an advocate died in an accident in 1993. > > Therefore, since 1999 my husband is on bail and attending court regularly. (This case is about to solve in his favour as the purchaser has paid again the price of the land after negotiation). > > Regarding hair on body, I must say " sare sareer par kam aur baareek bal hen " > > In fact, now my husband is a gem of person very coop. adjusting nature, but at present, he has only one bad habit (hence this email) i.e. daily drinking since last 20 years or more in the night (probably never in the day time) and with a limit of 150 mi. He himself wants to get rid of this bad habit but maybe his stars do not allow or require any remedy > > His 58th. Varsphal is below written. > > Mangal+ Rahu #2 > > Ketu #3 > > Shani+ Budh #5 > > Surya+ Shukra #7 > > Guru #8 > > Chandra #9 > > Kindly suggest should he Do " Aam ke Vreksh pe dudh " wala upai or not. In addition, Badam Mandir lejakar adhey vapis la kar ghar me kayam rekhna. > > Though this is a long letter but it is according to demand. > > Rajni > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee> wrote: > Priya bhuvan ji > You wrote realy in direction but > " MAINE LALKITAB KE EK PURVAVARTI ADDITION MAIN ISKI TAFSIL KUCHH IS > TARAH BHI PADHI HAI ---- Agar jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor > farebi bhi bane,phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb aur mandaa haal > khud apna aur aulad ka ho budh ka upay madadgaar hoga lagaataar 100 > din tak/ aise shaks main pita ya surya ke asar ka nek nishan ka naam > tak bhi na hoga/ go ahle-qalam magar nirdhan ,chor farebi fir bhi > hoga/tanghaal , bhola baadshaah hoga /DIMAGI KHANA NO. 15 BRIHASPATI > SE MUSHTARKA KHUDDARI , muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara > hoga HOVE. " > ACCORDING TO THIS SHANI NO. 5 GURU NO. 9 KO GURU KI MUFSIL > MAIN PADHNAA BHI JAROORI HAI.AUR IS BAAT KA KHAAS KHYAAL RAKHNAA BHI > JAROORI HAI KI GURU AUR SHANI KE MANDE YA PIDIT NA HONE PER AUR SHUBH > GRAHO SE DRISHT HONE PER " GURU SHANI MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN > LEVAIN AUR PIDIT YA MANDE HONE PER BHI MANDI HALAT MAIN " GURU SHANI > MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN LEVAIN. > PRIYA BHUVAN aapne iski nishani bilkul spasht ki hai ki " agar > jism per jyada baal ho to " lekin saath yeh bhi jaroori hai ki beshak > jism per jyadaa baal ho agar guru manda na ho aur shani mandaa na > kiyaa jaye to chor farebi to kya choro ka sardar hote hue bhi aisa > sanyaasi hoga jiski maya ka bhed na jana ja sake ,matalab yeh hai ki > yadi neki ke kaan kartaa rahegaa aur seena dhakker rahega to duniyan > main naam aur daam dono kamayega.Agar seena kholker chalegaa to shani > sareaam katl bhi karvaa saktaa hai bhale hi kitnaa naam aur daam kyon > na kamaa le kuch bhi use bachaa nahi payegaa.Kyonki nek shani bhi > jiske shareer per adhik baal hovain seena khula rakhne per ya saanp > marvaane per ya rahu ke 8th main hone per chhat badalwane per (Khaas > taur per TOILET ki chhat badalwane per mandaa ho jayegaa.Ab sawaal > hai ki yadi sharir per jyaada baal ho to nek shani ka nirnay kaise > kiyaa jaye.iske liye kundli main rahu ki tafsil ko dekhte hue uske > mande vakyaat ka jikra kiya jaye aur guru ya shani kisse pidit hain > to uska faislaa kiyaa jaye maslan 12th main budh aur 5th main shani > guru 9th main ho to guru to budh se dhoke ki nazar per baitha hogaa > lekin mandaa shani budh ko takraav degaa kyonki 12th ka budh 25% > nazar shani ke headquarter per bhi rakhe hai isi karan takraav ka > jehari (shani) shaks ke dwara mandaa ker liye jane per guru ko dhoka > dene ke asool ke khilaaf jahar uglega , budh ka tedhaa daant saanp ki > thaili se is jehar ko nikalne ka sabab banker kisi ko maar dene ki > taqat ya mande vaqt ka karan bhi banega lekin saanp ka apnaa vazood > khatrey main padne per vahi saanp marne maarne ke asool per chal > padegaa kyonki use to aulad ka asr mandaa karne ke liye pratyek shart > manzoor hogi.Aulad to mandi hogi hi. > Aisa maine aap aur mudit ji ke nazariye ko lalkitab ke dayre main hi > aur adhik vistrit karne ka prayaas kiyaa hai.ummid hai ki mere is > nazariye ke mutabik SHANI NO. 5 ko samajhne main adhik madad milegi > aur aap sabhi adhik badhia chintan ker sakenge.Vaise lalkitab ek > samudra hai maine ek dubki lagaane ka prayaas kiyaa aur is sandarbh > main jo hasil hua use aap sabke saamne rakhaa hai. > With regards > lalkitabee > > lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > > > With due respect I want to add that the only reference of court > case > > occurs in these lines { Lal Kitab , page 610 urdu ed1952 ,Shani 5 - > > mandi halat # 2 } > > > > " tamaam jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor farebi bhi bane, > > phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb hoga / go ahle-qalam magar > nirdhan > > hi hoga / muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara hoga / " > > > > Therefore, the possibility of court cases will be if he has a lot > of > > hair on his body. > > > > With respect to all gurujan, > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> > wrote: > > > Respected Mudit Ji & Sehgal JI > > > Sorry for going between both of you.Yes Mudit is right in > > his > > > way but another factor about this is --- if jupiter is in 9th and > > it > > > seems to be PIDIT by moon or any other pattern of drishti or by > > sukra > > > (Venus)then " Shani ka andhera surya ki roshni ko Kanoon (Jupiter) > > ki > > > takat se mandaa karne ki koshish karega kyonki pidit jupiter in > 9th > > > Saturn ki drishti main hoga aur uska maksad surya ko dabaana hoga > > > (agar mandaa ho)isi karan lalkitab main mukaddmain ke vakyaat ka > > > jikra kiya gaya hai.Matalab yeh hai ki yadi 9th main mandaa > jupiter > > > ho to surya ka noor (aura) ghataane ke lihaz se mandaa shani > DIMAGI > > > KHANA NO. 15 se mushtarkaa hone ke kaaran mukaddma aur jail ka > > karan > > > ban sakta hai.Jaisa ki mudit ji ne kaha hai.Aur kundli ki tafsil > > isi > > > ke mutabik jaanchne ke baad upay karna thik hoga varnaa manda > shani > > > 5th main bachche khane wala saanp jahir hogaa.Ab mande ye nek ka > > > nirnay puri kundli ke mazboon ko janchte hue karnaa hogaa jaisa > ki > > > Mudut Ji ne kiya hai.Lalkitab main head per(jo ki rahu ki > milkiyat > > > hai)main 42 dimagi khano ka varnan hai. > > > I written according to the lalkitab " shani khana no. 5 " > > > With respect > > > > > > Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " <mudit982001> > > > wrote: > > > > Res. Rakesh ji, > > > > Because Jupiter and Sun both are significator of 5th house. > > > > Sun= Government and related Departments > > > > Jupiter= Law > > > > This is my observation! and you try to apply this in that > > > horoscopes > > > > you see Saturn in 5th house once a time that person definately > go > > > to > > > > court in any matter. check it. If saturn aspected or related > with > > > > papi enemy planet some time person compel to take " BAIL " . > > > > I again ask it is my observation do not take it otherwise. > > > > with regards. > > > > mudit982001 > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Mudit Bhai > > > > > > > > > > Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal sirf itna > > ki > > > > aapne > > > > > kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat are > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > RS > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > <mudit982001> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > dear Rakesh ji, > > > > > > Saturn is enemy of Sun > > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Mudit Jee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana #5. > > Why > > > > this > > > > > > > particular symptom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the > > reference > > > > to > > > > > > legal > > > > > > > matters? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal position > > and > > > > > also > > > > > > (2) > > > > > > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related to > > law? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava > > > > > <rajni4051> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below > written > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste Mali > > > halat > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how to > > get > > > > Surya > > > > > > > kee > > > > > > > > madad? > > > > > > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. BANDAR > > > SURYA > > > > KI > > > > > > > CHIZ > > > > > > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn > Badam > > > > > Mandir > > > > > > > mEn > > > > > > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the > > weight > > > > of > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For > > Long > > > > that > > > > > > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam > kundli > > > and > > > > > is > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. > > Should > > > it > > > > > be > > > > > > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 months? > > > Kindly > > > > > > reply. > > > > > > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK HIM > > > > > > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN? > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > > > > > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > > > > > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > > > > > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 Hello Rakesh Yes there is an obvious issue of an apect of confrontation between the Hs Nos. 2 and 9. I was puzzled as to why you were raising this point but then went back to the book and looked up the chapter on aspects. It will indeed be very interesting and educative to see you and the other experts handle this one. Regards R S lalkitab , " rakeshrajnisharma " <rakeshrajnisharma> wrote: > Respected experts in lalkitab, > I have also gone thruogh little bit in the matter and am reading the > opinions of other members also.But so far no one has seen the > combination of mars and rahu and the placement of these grahas w r t > moon In 11th house.I think everybody is holding shani as the main > reason. I request everybody to see the mars + rahu (specially in the > varshphal) > Mrs Rajni may i ask some qns to check the melefic nature of mars. > with regards.May God forgive me. > rakesh > > > > > > - In lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> > > > > wrote: > > > > Res > > > pected lalkitabeeji, Mudit ji and all group members, > > > > I am thrilled to have your attention on this i.e. Shani #5. > > > > Below written is my husband's teva and I describe all in detail. > > > > Please take a little pain to give some direction to me. > > > > {DOB 07/07/1947 TOB 00:20 SHARP POB MAYYAR HALT (HARYANA) LONGITUDE > 075.46-E LATITUDE 029.10-N} > > > > Lagan is Meen or Rassi#12 is written in Khana No.1 > > > > Mangal+ Rahu in khana no.3 > > > > Surya+ Shukra in no.4 > > > > Shani+ Budh in no.5 > > > > Guru in no.8 > > > > Ketu in no.9 > > > > Chandra in 11 > > > > He has two elder brothers and two elder sisters > > > > Grandfather died when my husband was 8 years old and the old man > was 79, Father died in 1980 he was 77 years old, Mother died in 1991 > she was 84 years old, Eldest sister died in 2004 and she was73 > > > > He had a bad company in his teen age and started smoking, drinking, > meat eating and gambling. Passed his matriculation in 1963, B.A in > 1972 in 2nd. Division. With the help of his brother in law (Jija) he > got job in a Bank as Cashier on 3rd. of July 1972.Got married in > 1974.First daughter was born in 1974, second in 1977 and third > in1985. Of course no SON. > > > > Lost a lot of money in Gambling until 1989. In 1989 he got Lal > kitab from one of his friends and started studying it and believe me > he stopped gambling. > > > > Purchased a big house in 1991 and sold in 1998 for almost 3500000/- > earned profit of about 2200000/- but lost in shares. > > > > He received many financial help from his eldest brother who is > settled in USA. > > > > Our two daughters are US citizen and doing very well there. > > > > In 1988 a friend (son of an advocate) came and asked my husband to > identify him in the office of sub registrar on a sale deed of land > worth Rs.1900000/- which his friend purchased from some unknown > person who was introduced by some other advocate .My husband says he > identified his friend but the ambiguous legal language on the > document which he signed shows that the identification was of seller. > > > > The seller was fraud. > > > > After ten years real owner appeared and lodge, a criminal > complaint/case against my husband as the first witness who was an > advocate died in an accident in 1993. > > > > Therefore, since 1999 my husband is on bail and attending court > regularly. (This case is about to solve in his favour as the > purchaser has paid again the price of the land after negotiation). > > > > Regarding hair on body, I must say " sare sareer par kam aur baareek > bal hen " > > > > In fact, now my husband is a gem of person very coop. adjusting > nature, but at present, he has only one bad habit (hence this email) > i.e. daily drinking since last 20 years or more in the night > (probably never in the day time) and with a limit of 150 mi. He > himself wants to get rid of this bad habit but maybe his stars do not > allow or require any remedy > > > > His 58th. Varsphal is below written. > > > > Mangal+ Rahu #2 > > > > Ketu #3 > > > > Shani+ Budh #5 > > > > Surya+ Shukra #7 > > > > Guru #8 > > > > Chandra #9 > > > > Kindly suggest should he Do " Aam ke Vreksh pe dudh " wala upai or > not. In addition, Badam Mandir lejakar adhey vapis la kar ghar me > kayam rekhna. > > > > Though this is a long letter but it is according to demand. > > > > > Rajni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee> wrote: > > Priya bhuvan ji > > You wrote realy in direction but > > " MAINE LALKITAB KE EK PURVAVARTI ADDITION MAIN ISKI TAFSIL KUCHH IS > > TARAH BHI PADHI HAI ---- Agar jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq > chor > > farebi bhi bane,phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb aur mandaa haal > > khud apna aur aulad ka ho budh ka upay madadgaar hoga lagaataar 100 > > din tak/ aise shaks main pita ya surya ke asar ka nek nishan ka > naam > > tak bhi na hoga/ go ahle-qalam magar nirdhan ,chor farebi fir bhi > > hoga/tanghaal , bhola baadshaah hoga /DIMAGI KHANA NO. 15 > BRIHASPATI > > SE MUSHTARKA KHUDDARI , muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara > > hoga HOVE. " > > ACCORDING TO THIS SHANI NO. 5 GURU NO. 9 KO GURU KI MUFSIL > > MAIN PADHNAA BHI JAROORI HAI.AUR IS BAAT KA KHAAS KHYAAL RAKHNAA > BHI > > JAROORI HAI KI GURU AUR SHANI KE MANDE YA PIDIT NA HONE PER AUR > SHUBH > > GRAHO SE DRISHT HONE PER " GURU SHANI MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN > > LEVAIN AUR PIDIT YA MANDE HONE PER BHI MANDI HALAT MAIN " GURU SHANI > > MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN LEVAIN. > > PRIYA BHUVAN aapne iski nishani bilkul spasht ki hai ki " agar > > jism per jyada baal ho to " lekin saath yeh bhi jaroori hai ki > beshak > > jism per jyadaa baal ho agar guru manda na ho aur shani mandaa na > > kiyaa jaye to chor farebi to kya choro ka sardar hote hue bhi aisa > > sanyaasi hoga jiski maya ka bhed na jana ja sake ,matalab yeh hai > ki > > yadi neki ke kaan kartaa rahegaa aur seena dhakker rahega to > duniyan > > main naam aur daam dono kamayega.Agar seena kholker chalegaa to > shani > > sareaam katl bhi karvaa saktaa hai bhale hi kitnaa naam aur daam > kyon > > na kamaa le kuch bhi use bachaa nahi payegaa.Kyonki nek shani bhi > > jiske shareer per adhik baal hovain seena khula rakhne per ya saanp > > marvaane per ya rahu ke 8th main hone per chhat badalwane per > (Khaas > > taur per TOILET ki chhat badalwane per mandaa ho jayegaa.Ab sawaal > > hai ki yadi sharir per jyaada baal ho to nek shani ka nirnay kaise > > kiyaa jaye.iske liye kundli main rahu ki tafsil ko dekhte hue uske > > mande vakyaat ka jikra kiya jaye aur guru ya shani kisse pidit > hain > > to uska faislaa kiyaa jaye maslan 12th main budh aur 5th main shani > > guru 9th main ho to guru to budh se dhoke ki nazar per baitha hogaa > > lekin mandaa shani budh ko takraav degaa kyonki 12th ka budh 25% > > nazar shani ke headquarter per bhi rakhe hai isi karan takraav ka > > jehari (shani) shaks ke dwara mandaa ker liye jane per guru ko > dhoka > > dene ke asool ke khilaaf jahar uglega , budh ka tedhaa daant saanp > ki > > thaili se is jehar ko nikalne ka sabab banker kisi ko maar dene > ki > > taqat ya mande vaqt ka karan bhi banega lekin saanp ka apnaa vazood > > khatrey main padne per vahi saanp marne maarne ke asool per chal > > padegaa kyonki use to aulad ka asr mandaa karne ke liye pratyek > shart > > manzoor hogi.Aulad to mandi hogi hi. > > Aisa maine aap aur mudit ji ke nazariye ko lalkitab ke dayre main > hi > > aur adhik vistrit karne ka prayaas kiyaa hai.ummid hai ki mere is > > nazariye ke mutabik SHANI NO. 5 ko samajhne main adhik madad milegi > > aur aap sabhi adhik badhia chintan ker sakenge.Vaise lalkitab ek > > samudra hai maine ek dubki lagaane ka prayaas kiyaa aur is sandarbh > > main jo hasil hua use aap sabke saamne rakhaa hai. > > With regards > > lalkitabee > > > > lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " > > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > > > > > With due respect I want to add that the only reference of court > > case > > > occurs in these lines { Lal Kitab , page 610 urdu ed1952 ,Shani > 5 - > > > mandi halat # 2 } > > > > > > " tamaam jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor farebi bhi bane, > > > phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb hoga / go ahle-qalam magar > > nirdhan > > > hi hoga / muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara hoga / " > > > > > > Therefore, the possibility of court cases will be if he has a lot > > of > > > hair on his body. > > > > > > With respect to all gurujan, > > > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> > > wrote: > > > > Respected Mudit Ji & Sehgal JI > > > > Sorry for going between both of you.Yes Mudit is right > in > > > his > > > > way but another factor about this is --- if jupiter is in 9th > and > > > it > > > > seems to be PIDIT by moon or any other pattern of drishti or by > > > sukra > > > > (Venus)then " Shani ka andhera surya ki roshni ko Kanoon > (Jupiter) > > > ki > > > > takat se mandaa karne ki koshish karega kyonki pidit jupiter in > > 9th > > > > Saturn ki drishti main hoga aur uska maksad surya ko dabaana > hoga > > > > (agar mandaa ho)isi karan lalkitab main mukaddmain ke vakyaat > ka > > > > jikra kiya gaya hai.Matalab yeh hai ki yadi 9th main mandaa > > jupiter > > > > ho to surya ka noor (aura) ghataane ke lihaz se mandaa shani > > DIMAGI > > > > KHANA NO. 15 se mushtarkaa hone ke kaaran mukaddma aur jail ka > > > karan > > > > ban sakta hai.Jaisa ki mudit ji ne kaha hai.Aur kundli ki > tafsil > > > isi > > > > ke mutabik jaanchne ke baad upay karna thik hoga varnaa manda > > shani > > > > 5th main bachche khane wala saanp jahir hogaa.Ab mande ye nek > ka > > > > nirnay puri kundli ke mazboon ko janchte hue karnaa hogaa jaisa > > ki > > > > Mudut Ji ne kiya hai.Lalkitab main head per(jo ki rahu ki > > milkiyat > > > > hai)main 42 dimagi khano ka varnan hai. > > > > I written according to the lalkitab " shani khana no. 5 " > > > > With respect > > > > > > > > > > Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > <mudit982001> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Res. Rakesh ji, > > > > > Because Jupiter and Sun both are significator of 5th house. > > > > > Sun= Government and related Departments > > > > > Jupiter= Law > > > > > This is my observation! and you try to apply this in that > > > > horoscopes > > > > > you see Saturn in 5th house once a time that person > definately > > go > > > > to > > > > > court in any matter. check it. If saturn aspected or related > > with > > > > > papi enemy planet some time person compel to take " BAIL " . > > > > > I again ask it is my observation do not take it otherwise. > > > > > with > regards. > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Mudit Bhai > > > > > > > > > > > > Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal sirf > itna > > > ki > > > > > aapne > > > > > > kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat are > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > RS > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > dear Rakesh ji, > > > > > > > Saturn is enemy of Sun > > > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Mudit Jee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana > #5. > > > Why > > > > > this > > > > > > > > particular symptom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the > > > reference > > > > > to > > > > > > > legal > > > > > > > > matters? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal > position > > > and > > > > > > also > > > > > > > (2) > > > > > > > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related > to > > > law? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava > > > > > > <rajni4051> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below > > written > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste > Mali > > > > halat > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how > to > > > get > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > kee > > > > > > > > > madad? > > > > > > > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. > BANDAR > > > > SURYA > > > > > KI > > > > > > > > CHIZ > > > > > > > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn > > Badam > > > > > > Mandir > > > > > > > > mEn > > > > > > > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the > > > weight > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For > > > Long > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam > > kundli > > > > and > > > > > > is > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. > > > Should > > > > it > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 > months? > > > > Kindly > > > > > > > reply. > > > > > > > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK > HIM > > > > > > > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN? > > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > > > > > > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > > > > > > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > > > > > > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 Respected Rakesh jee, Mrs Rajni jee had sought opinion regarding the two upaya [ 1 ] aam ke ped par dodh and [ 2 ] 'carrying baadam to the temple and bringing back half of them'in her letter. And I was responding to that only.Therefore I was keeping the discussion confined to mercury and saturn in the 5th house. I was not suggesting any upaya either for her Janma kundali or the varsh-phal kundali. If she had sought opinion for upaya on the entire kundali , then definitely the matters would have been entirely different. with respect to all the gurujan, bhuwan lalkitab , " rakeshrajnisharma " <rakeshrajnisharma> wrote: > Respected experts in lalkitab, > I have also gone thruogh little bit in the matter and am reading the > opinions of other members also.But so far no one has seen the > combination of mars and rahu and the placement of these grahas w r t > moon In 11th house.I think everybody is holding shani as the main > reason. I request everybody to see the mars + rahu (specially in the > varshphal) > Mrs Rajni may i ask some qns to check the melefic nature of mars. > with regards.May God forgive me. > rakesh > > > > > > - In lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> > > > > wrote: > > > > Res > > > pected lalkitabeeji, Mudit ji and all group members, > > > > I am thrilled to have your attention on this i.e. Shani #5. > > > > Below written is my husband's teva and I describe all in detail. > > > > Please take a little pain to give some direction to me. > > > > {DOB 07/07/1947 TOB 00:20 SHARP POB MAYYAR HALT (HARYANA) LONGITUDE > 075.46-E LATITUDE 029.10-N} > > > > Lagan is Meen or Rassi#12 is written in Khana No.1 > > > > Mangal+ Rahu in khana no.3 > > > > Surya+ Shukra in no.4 > > > > Shani+ Budh in no.5 > > > > Guru in no.8 > > > > Ketu in no.9 > > > > Chandra in 11 > > > > He has two elder brothers and two elder sisters > > > > Grandfather died when my husband was 8 years old and the old man > was 79, Father died in 1980 he was 77 years old, Mother died in 1991 > she was 84 years old, Eldest sister died in 2004 and she was73 > > > > He had a bad company in his teen age and started smoking, drinking, > meat eating and gambling. Passed his matriculation in 1963, B.A in > 1972 in 2nd. Division. With the help of his brother in law (Jija) he > got job in a Bank as Cashier on 3rd. of July 1972.Got married in > 1974.First daughter was born in 1974, second in 1977 and third > in1985. Of course no SON. > > > > Lost a lot of money in Gambling until 1989. In 1989 he got Lal > kitab from one of his friends and started studying it and believe me > he stopped gambling. > > > > Purchased a big house in 1991 and sold in 1998 for almost 3500000/- > earned profit of about 2200000/- but lost in shares. > > > > He received many financial help from his eldest brother who is > settled in USA. > > > > Our two daughters are US citizen and doing very well there. > > > > In 1988 a friend (son of an advocate) came and asked my husband to > identify him in the office of sub registrar on a sale deed of land > worth Rs.1900000/- which his friend purchased from some unknown > person who was introduced by some other advocate .My husband says he > identified his friend but the ambiguous legal language on the > document which he signed shows that the identification was of seller. > > > > The seller was fraud. > > > > After ten years real owner appeared and lodge, a criminal > complaint/case against my husband as the first witness who was an > advocate died in an accident in 1993. > > > > Therefore, since 1999 my husband is on bail and attending court > regularly. (This case is about to solve in his favour as the > purchaser has paid again the price of the land after negotiation). > > > > Regarding hair on body, I must say " sare sareer par kam aur baareek > bal hen " > > > > In fact, now my husband is a gem of person very coop. adjusting > nature, but at present, he has only one bad habit (hence this email) > i.e. daily drinking since last 20 years or more in the night > (probably never in the day time) and with a limit of 150 mi. He > himself wants to get rid of this bad habit but maybe his stars do not > allow or require any remedy > > > > His 58th. Varsphal is below written. > > > > Mangal+ Rahu #2 > > > > Ketu #3 > > > > Shani+ Budh #5 > > > > Surya+ Shukra #7 > > > > Guru #8 > > > > Chandra #9 > > > > Kindly suggest should he Do " Aam ke Vreksh pe dudh " wala upai or > not. In addition, Badam Mandir lejakar adhey vapis la kar ghar me > kayam rekhna. > > > > Though this is a long letter but it is according to demand. > > > > > Rajni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee> wrote: > > Priya bhuvan ji > > You wrote realy in direction but > > " MAINE LALKITAB KE EK PURVAVARTI ADDITION MAIN ISKI TAFSIL KUCHH IS > > TARAH BHI PADHI HAI ---- Agar jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq > chor > > farebi bhi bane,phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb aur mandaa haal > > khud apna aur aulad ka ho budh ka upay madadgaar hoga lagaataar 100 > > din tak/ aise shaks main pita ya surya ke asar ka nek nishan ka > naam > > tak bhi na hoga/ go ahle-qalam magar nirdhan ,chor farebi fir bhi > > hoga/tanghaal , bhola baadshaah hoga /DIMAGI KHANA NO. 15 > BRIHASPATI > > SE MUSHTARKA KHUDDARI , muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara > > hoga HOVE. " > > ACCORDING TO THIS SHANI NO. 5 GURU NO. 9 KO GURU KI MUFSIL > > MAIN PADHNAA BHI JAROORI HAI.AUR IS BAAT KA KHAAS KHYAAL RAKHNAA > BHI > > JAROORI HAI KI GURU AUR SHANI KE MANDE YA PIDIT NA HONE PER AUR > SHUBH > > GRAHO SE DRISHT HONE PER " GURU SHANI MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN > > LEVAIN AUR PIDIT YA MANDE HONE PER BHI MANDI HALAT MAIN " GURU SHANI > > MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN LEVAIN. > > PRIYA BHUVAN aapne iski nishani bilkul spasht ki hai ki " agar > > jism per jyada baal ho to " lekin saath yeh bhi jaroori hai ki > beshak > > jism per jyadaa baal ho agar guru manda na ho aur shani mandaa na > > kiyaa jaye to chor farebi to kya choro ka sardar hote hue bhi aisa > > sanyaasi hoga jiski maya ka bhed na jana ja sake ,matalab yeh hai > ki > > yadi neki ke kaan kartaa rahegaa aur seena dhakker rahega to > duniyan > > main naam aur daam dono kamayega.Agar seena kholker chalegaa to > shani > > sareaam katl bhi karvaa saktaa hai bhale hi kitnaa naam aur daam > kyon > > na kamaa le kuch bhi use bachaa nahi payegaa.Kyonki nek shani bhi > > jiske shareer per adhik baal hovain seena khula rakhne per ya saanp > > marvaane per ya rahu ke 8th main hone per chhat badalwane per > (Khaas > > taur per TOILET ki chhat badalwane per mandaa ho jayegaa.Ab sawaal > > hai ki yadi sharir per jyaada baal ho to nek shani ka nirnay kaise > > kiyaa jaye.iske liye kundli main rahu ki tafsil ko dekhte hue uske > > mande vakyaat ka jikra kiya jaye aur guru ya shani kisse pidit > hain > > to uska faislaa kiyaa jaye maslan 12th main budh aur 5th main shani > > guru 9th main ho to guru to budh se dhoke ki nazar per baitha hogaa > > lekin mandaa shani budh ko takraav degaa kyonki 12th ka budh 25% > > nazar shani ke headquarter per bhi rakhe hai isi karan takraav ka > > jehari (shani) shaks ke dwara mandaa ker liye jane per guru ko > dhoka > > dene ke asool ke khilaaf jahar uglega , budh ka tedhaa daant saanp > ki > > thaili se is jehar ko nikalne ka sabab banker kisi ko maar dene > ki > > taqat ya mande vaqt ka karan bhi banega lekin saanp ka apnaa vazood > > khatrey main padne per vahi saanp marne maarne ke asool per chal > > padegaa kyonki use to aulad ka asr mandaa karne ke liye pratyek > shart > > manzoor hogi.Aulad to mandi hogi hi. > > Aisa maine aap aur mudit ji ke nazariye ko lalkitab ke dayre main > hi > > aur adhik vistrit karne ka prayaas kiyaa hai.ummid hai ki mere is > > nazariye ke mutabik SHANI NO. 5 ko samajhne main adhik madad milegi > > aur aap sabhi adhik badhia chintan ker sakenge.Vaise lalkitab ek > > samudra hai maine ek dubki lagaane ka prayaas kiyaa aur is sandarbh > > main jo hasil hua use aap sabke saamne rakhaa hai. > > With regards > > lalkitabee > > > > lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " > > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > > > > > With due respect I want to add that the only reference of court > > case > > > occurs in these lines { Lal Kitab , page 610 urdu ed1952 ,Shani > 5 - > > > mandi halat # 2 } > > > > > > " tamaam jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor farebi bhi bane, > > > phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb hoga / go ahle-qalam magar > > nirdhan > > > hi hoga / muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara hoga / " > > > > > > Therefore, the possibility of court cases will be if he has a lot > > of > > > hair on his body. > > > > > > With respect to all gurujan, > > > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> > > wrote: > > > > Respected Mudit Ji & Sehgal JI > > > > Sorry for going between both of you.Yes Mudit is right > in > > > his > > > > way but another factor about this is --- if jupiter is in 9th > and > > > it > > > > seems to be PIDIT by moon or any other pattern of drishti or by > > > sukra > > > > (Venus)then " Shani ka andhera surya ki roshni ko Kanoon > (Jupiter) > > > ki > > > > takat se mandaa karne ki koshish karega kyonki pidit jupiter in > > 9th > > > > Saturn ki drishti main hoga aur uska maksad surya ko dabaana > hoga > > > > (agar mandaa ho)isi karan lalkitab main mukaddmain ke vakyaat > ka > > > > jikra kiya gaya hai.Matalab yeh hai ki yadi 9th main mandaa > > jupiter > > > > ho to surya ka noor (aura) ghataane ke lihaz se mandaa shani > > DIMAGI > > > > KHANA NO. 15 se mushtarkaa hone ke kaaran mukaddma aur jail ka > > > karan > > > > ban sakta hai.Jaisa ki mudit ji ne kaha hai.Aur kundli ki > tafsil > > > isi > > > > ke mutabik jaanchne ke baad upay karna thik hoga varnaa manda > > shani > > > > 5th main bachche khane wala saanp jahir hogaa.Ab mande ye nek > ka > > > > nirnay puri kundli ke mazboon ko janchte hue karnaa hogaa jaisa > > ki > > > > Mudut Ji ne kiya hai.Lalkitab main head per(jo ki rahu ki > > milkiyat > > > > hai)main 42 dimagi khano ka varnan hai. > > > > I written according to the lalkitab " shani khana no. 5 " > > > > With respect > > > > > > > > > > Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > <mudit982001> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Res. Rakesh ji, > > > > > Because Jupiter and Sun both are significator of 5th house. > > > > > Sun= Government and related Departments > > > > > Jupiter= Law > > > > > This is my observation! and you try to apply this in that > > > > horoscopes > > > > > you see Saturn in 5th house once a time that person > definately > > go > > > > to > > > > > court in any matter. check it. If saturn aspected or related > > with > > > > > papi enemy planet some time person compel to take " BAIL " . > > > > > I again ask it is my observation do not take it otherwise. > > > > > with > regards. > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Mudit Bhai > > > > > > > > > > > > Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal sirf > itna > > > ki > > > > > aapne > > > > > > kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat are > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > RS > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > dear Rakesh ji, > > > > > > > Saturn is enemy of Sun > > > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Mudit Jee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana > #5. > > > Why > > > > > this > > > > > > > > particular symptom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the > > > reference > > > > > to > > > > > > > legal > > > > > > > > matters? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal > position > > > and > > > > > > also > > > > > > > (2) > > > > > > > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters related > to > > > law? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava > > > > > > <rajni4051> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below > > written > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste > Mali > > > > halat > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how > to > > > get > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > kee > > > > > > > > > madad? > > > > > > > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. > BANDAR > > > > SURYA > > > > > KI > > > > > > > > CHIZ > > > > > > > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal mEn > > Badam > > > > > > Mandir > > > > > > > > mEn > > > > > > > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal the > > > weight > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. For > > > Long > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam > > kundli > > > > and > > > > > > is > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July 2004. > > > Should > > > > it > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 > months? > > > > Kindly > > > > > > > reply. > > > > > > > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK > HIM > > > > > > > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA NAHIN? > > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > > > > > > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > > > > > > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > > > > > > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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