Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 Dear Bhuwan Ji regarding silver nose pin,You have written that " no male jatak would get it done " .You are mistaken as i myself have got it done and my many clients have got it done. jab fayda dikhta hai to har aadmi har kaam karta hai...marta kya na karta !.. we got inserted a silver wire and covered with band-aid for 96 hours.some people use white thread instead of silver wire. it also works.This is for your info only. Regards Rajeev K Khattar - " bhuwanvashishtha " <bhuwanvashishtha <lalkitab > Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:54 AM [lalkitab] Re: Shani Khana No.5 Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, { this is for your perusal } Studying the kundali as per your instructions: [ 1 ]In the Varsh Phal Venus is not in the adjacent { sanjhi-deewar } house to either saturn or mercury. Venus is in the 7th house where as saturn and mercury are in the 5th house. However in the Janma kundali venus is in the adjacent house . In this case the upaya would be to throw the karak objects of jupiter in the well for four days regularly. [ 2 ] " budh ke dayare mein guru ki hawa pahuchane ke liye " .. the best upaya in my opinion would be to do ' naak chhedan 'and insert a silver ring or a stud { keel or long } and keep it for 96 hours. But no male jatak would get it done , therefore the alternative is to get a silver stud inserted in one of the tooth...'daant mein chandi ki keel lagwana'this is a very common and easy process , a dentist drills a minute hole through a tooth and inserts a very thin silver wire across.It has become quite fashionable , for young girls ,these days to get gold or silver studs fixed to their teeth . would be obliged to have your views on it. with respect and regards for all the gurujan, bhuwan lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> wrote: > Priya Bhuvan > U r right.But before going for the remedy of BADAAMS ,it is also > compulsry to know that where is sukra' in janm kundli & varsh fal.If > In varshfal sani & budh come to the 5th & according to u chandra is > in 9th & sukra may be in 4th then 1st of all necessery to do remedy > for sukra.Because sajhi diwar ke assol per sukra shani ko apne mande > asar se door nahi rahne dega & veh aadmi buri aadtain chhodne ki > bajay unki taraf badhegaa aur baad main chot lagne per pachhtayega > lekin fir bhi door nahi hat sakegaa.So 1st of all sukra ki remedy > after that Shani ka badaam walaa upay.If Guru is in sound position > then prescribe that remedy which make concern between ANDHERA & > UJALA.I mean budh ke dayre main suraakh karo taaki guru ki hawaa > ander baahar aaye jaaye aur budh ka tedhaa daant jehari (shani) ki > thaili main se jehar nikaalne main nakaamyaab ho jaaye.Aapne lalkitab > main padha hoga ki guru ki hawaa hi shishe ke gole ke ander baher > ghoomti hai.Isi karan budh shatru hai guru ka.Aur ye agar jehri ke > andhere ki taqat ko badhaye aur guru per mili maar kare to iskaa upay > karnaa bhi jaroori hai.Now prescribe remedies after analyzing this. > Best wishes > Lalkitabee > > lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > > > Ref : res Rajni jee's query whether she should go ahead with two > > upaya one of ` aam ke pedh par doodh' and second ` mandir mein > baadam > > le jakar wapas sthapit karna' > > > > I have a few observations to make with a request to you that you > > should go through them and give your final verdict whether it is > > right or not. > > > > First the ` aam ke pedh par dudh upaya' > > > > [ 1 ] Mercury and Saturn jointly [ mushtaraka ] are the karak of a > > mango tree [ page 890 of urdu ed 1952 ] but both these planets are > > considered joint only till the age of 39/40 { dono 39/40 salaa > > umra tak mushtaraka honge / mushtaraka milawat mein budh 4 hisse to > > shani 5 hisse hoga / page 890 }. > > > > [ 2 ] Even if the age were 39/40 , still both these planets could > not > > have been considered as joint because they are in the 5th house > > where they are to be considered as separate planets and not as > joint > > planets [ baki ghar apana-apana phal hoga for 1,3,5,6,8 & 10 / > page > > 891] > > > > Therefore the `aam ke pedh par dudh' upaya can not be done.. Even > > otherwise milk could not have been used because moon is placed in > the > > 9th house of the varsh phal . It is because of this moon mercury in > > the 5th house `jaag gaya hai'. And ` jaaga hua budh 5 mein ashubh > > hota hai.' > > > > Thus the upaya has to be done for both the planets separately . > > > > Upaya for the mercury in the 5th is essential because : > > > > " guru chandra jab teve manda budh zahreela hota ho / > > 3, chauthe , 7 , 9 graha baitha ; raakh hua sab jalataa ho/ " > > > > The upaya mentioned is : Wear a copper coin round the neck ` gale > > mein tambe ka paisa khazane ki barkat dega [ page 556 urdu ed > 1952 ] > > > > Now regarding the upaya for Saturn in the 5th house both in the > > janma kundali and the varsh phal. > > > > ` varsh phal mein baadam mandir mein le jakar aadhe vapas la kar > ghar > > mein qayam rakhen - page 609 ] > > shani ko mandir mein le jakar nek neeyatee ki qasam dilwana. > > > > Therefore the upaya will be ; > > > > Take 10 sabut baadam [ whole almonds with shell ] to the temple > for > > FIVE days regularly. Offer all the ten there in front of the idol . > > Of these 10 almonds leave 5 there and bring back with you the other > 5 > > as a blessed prasaad . Thus at the end of the five days there will > > be 25 almonds at the house which have been brought back from the > > temple. Keep them tied in a piece of yellow cloth. Do not eat them. > > > > But why 10 baadam and not 1/10 th of the weight etc. The logic is > > that the almonds at home should be in the multiples of 5 signifying > > the 5th house. Therefore the minimum number has to be 10 to be > > carried to the temple then only there will be five almonds at home > > for each day. > > > > The other facts contained in the letter of res Rajni jee like no > son, > > age of the grandfather and the father, loss of money through > > speculation , court case etc are all varifiable from the janma > Kundali > > > > With respect for all the gurujan, > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected lalkitabeeji, Mudit ji and all group members, > > > > > > I am thrilled to have your attention on this i.e. Shani #5. > > > > > > Below written is my husband's teva and I describe all in detail. > > > > > > Please take a little pain to give some direction to me. > > > > > > {DOB 07/07/1947 TOB 00:20 SHARP POB MAYYAR HALT (HARYANA) > LONGITUDE > > 075.46-E LATITUDE 029.10-N} > > > > > > Lagan is Meen or Rassi#12 is written in Khana No.1 > > > > > > Mangal+ Rahu in khana no.3 > > > > > > Surya+ Shukra in no.4 > > > > > > Shani+ Budh in no.5 > > > > > > Guru in no.8 > > > > > > Ketu in no.9 > > > > > > Chandra in 11 > > > > > > He has two elder brothers and two elder sisters > > > > > > Grandfather died when my husband was 8 years old and the old man > > was 79, Father died in 1980 he was 77 years old, Mother died in > 1991 > > she was 84 years old, Eldest sister died in 2004 and she was73 > > > > > > He had a bad company in his teen age and started smoking, > drinking, > > meat eating and gambling. Passed his matriculation in 1963, B.A in > > 1972 in 2nd. Division. With the help of his brother in law (Jija) > he > > got job in a Bank as Cashier on 3rd. of July 1972.Got married in > > 1974.First daughter was born in 1974, second in 1977 and third > > in1985. Of course no SON. > > > > > > Lost a lot of money in Gambling until 1989. In 1989 he got Lal > > kitab from one of his friends and started studying it and believe > me > > he stopped gambling. > > > > > > Purchased a big house in 1991 and sold in 1998 for almost > 3500000/- > > earned profit of about 2200000/- but lost in shares. > > > > > > He received many financial help from his eldest brother who is > > settled in USA. > > > > > > Our two daughters are US citizen and doing very well there. > > > > > > In 1988 a friend (son of an advocate) came and asked my husband > to > > identify him in the office of sub registrar on a sale deed of land > > worth Rs.1900000/- which his friend purchased from some unknown > > person who was introduced by some other advocate .My husband says > he > > identified his friend but the ambiguous legal language on the > > document which he signed shows that the identification was of > seller. > > > > > > The seller was fraud. > > > > > > After ten years real owner appeared and lodge, a criminal > > complaint/case against my husband as the first witness who was an > > advocate died in an accident in 1993. > > > > > > Therefore, since 1999 my husband is on bail and attending court > > regularly. (This case is about to solve in his favour as the > > purchaser has paid again the price of the land after negotiation). > > > > > > Regarding hair on body, I must say " sare sareer par kam aur > baareek > > bal hen " > > > > > > In fact, now my husband is a gem of person very coop. adjusting > > nature, but at present, he has only one bad habit (hence this > email) > > i.e. daily drinking since last 20 years or more in the night > > (probably never in the day time) and with a limit of 150 mi. He > > himself wants to get rid of this bad habit but maybe his stars do > not > > allow or require any remedy > > > > > > His 58th. Varsphal is below written. > > > > > > Mangal+ Rahu #2 > > > > > > Ketu #3 > > > > > > Shani+ Budh #5 > > > > > > Surya+ Shukra #7 > > > > > > Guru #8 > > > > > > Chandra #9 > > > > > > Kindly suggest should he Do " Aam ke Vreksh pe dudh " wala upai or > > not. In addition, Badam Mandir lejakar adhey vapis la kar ghar me > > kayam rekhna. > > > > > > Though this is a long letter but it is according to demand. > > > > > > > > > Rajni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee> wrote: > > > Priya bhuvan ji > > > You wrote realy in direction but > > > " MAINE LALKITAB KE EK PURVAVARTI ADDITION MAIN ISKI TAFSIL KUCHH > IS > > > TARAH BHI PADHI HAI ---- Agar jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq > > chor > > > farebi bhi bane,phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb aur mandaa > haal > > > khud apna aur aulad ka ho budh ka upay madadgaar hoga lagaataar > 100 > > > din tak/ aise shaks main pita ya surya ke asar ka nek nishan ka > > naam > > > tak bhi na hoga/ go ahle-qalam magar nirdhan ,chor farebi fir bhi > > > hoga/tanghaal , bhola baadshaah hoga /DIMAGI KHANA NO. 15 > > BRIHASPATI > > > SE MUSHTARKA KHUDDARI , muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam > jhagara > > > hoga HOVE. " > > > ACCORDING TO THIS SHANI NO. 5 GURU NO. 9 KO GURU KI MUFSIL > > > MAIN PADHNAA BHI JAROORI HAI.AUR IS BAAT KA KHAAS KHYAAL RAKHNAA > > BHI > > > JAROORI HAI KI GURU AUR SHANI KE MANDE YA PIDIT NA HONE PER AUR > > SHUBH > > > GRAHO SE DRISHT HONE PER " GURU SHANI MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN > > > LEVAIN AUR PIDIT YA MANDE HONE PER BHI MANDI HALAT MAIN " GURU > SHANI > > > MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN LEVAIN. > > > PRIYA BHUVAN aapne iski nishani bilkul spasht ki hai > ki " agar > > > jism per jyada baal ho to " lekin saath yeh bhi jaroori hai ki > > beshak > > > jism per jyadaa baal ho agar guru manda na ho aur shani mandaa na > > > kiyaa jaye to chor farebi to kya choro ka sardar hote hue bhi > aisa > > > sanyaasi hoga jiski maya ka bhed na jana ja sake ,matalab yeh hai > > ki > > > yadi neki ke kaan kartaa rahegaa aur seena dhakker rahega to > > duniyan > > > main naam aur daam dono kamayega.Agar seena kholker chalegaa to > > shani > > > sareaam katl bhi karvaa saktaa hai bhale hi kitnaa naam aur daam > > kyon > > > na kamaa le kuch bhi use bachaa nahi payegaa.Kyonki nek shani bhi > > > jiske shareer per adhik baal hovain seena khula rakhne per ya > saanp > > > marvaane per ya rahu ke 8th main hone per chhat badalwane per > > (Khaas > > > taur per TOILET ki chhat badalwane per mandaa ho jayegaa.Ab > sawaal > > > hai ki yadi sharir per jyaada baal ho to nek shani ka nirnay > kaise > > > kiyaa jaye.iske liye kundli main rahu ki tafsil ko dekhte hue > uske > > > mande vakyaat ka jikra kiya jaye aur guru ya shani kisse pidit > > hain > > > to uska faislaa kiyaa jaye maslan 12th main budh aur 5th main > shani > > > guru 9th main ho to guru to budh se dhoke ki nazar per baitha > hogaa > > > lekin mandaa shani budh ko takraav degaa kyonki 12th ka budh 25% > > > nazar shani ke headquarter per bhi rakhe hai isi karan takraav ka > > > jehari (shani) shaks ke dwara mandaa ker liye jane per guru ko > > dhoka > > > dene ke asool ke khilaaf jahar uglega , budh ka tedhaa daant > saanp > > ki > > > thaili se is jehar ko nikalne ka sabab banker kisi ko maar dene > > ki > > > taqat ya mande vaqt ka karan bhi banega lekin saanp ka apnaa > vazood > > > khatrey main padne per vahi saanp marne maarne ke asool per chal > > > padegaa kyonki use to aulad ka asr mandaa karne ke liye pratyek > > shart > > > manzoor hogi.Aulad to mandi hogi hi. > > > Aisa maine aap aur mudit ji ke nazariye ko lalkitab ke dayre main > > hi > > > aur adhik vistrit karne ka prayaas kiyaa hai.ummid hai ki mere is > > > nazariye ke mutabik SHANI NO. 5 ko samajhne main adhik madad > milegi > > > aur aap sabhi adhik badhia chintan ker sakenge.Vaise lalkitab ek > > > samudra hai maine ek dubki lagaane ka prayaas kiyaa aur is > sandarbh > > > main jo hasil hua use aap sabke saamne rakhaa hai. > > > With regards > > > lalkitabee > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " > > > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > > > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > > > > > > > With due respect I want to add that the only reference of court > > > case > > > > occurs in these lines { Lal Kitab , page 610 urdu ed1952 ,Shani > > 5 - > > > > mandi halat # 2 } > > > > > > > > " tamaam jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor farebi bhi > bane, > > > > phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb hoga / go ahle-qalam magar > > > nirdhan > > > > hi hoga / muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara hoga / " > > > > > > > > Therefore, the possibility of court cases will be if he has a > lot > > > of > > > > hair on his body. > > > > > > > > With respect to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> > > > wrote: > > > > > Respected Mudit Ji & Sehgal JI > > > > > Sorry for going between both of you.Yes Mudit is right > > in > > > > his > > > > > way but another factor about this is --- if jupiter is in 9th > > and > > > > it > > > > > seems to be PIDIT by moon or any other pattern of drishti or > by > > > > sukra > > > > > (Venus)then " Shani ka andhera surya ki roshni ko Kanoon > > (Jupiter) > > > > ki > > > > > takat se mandaa karne ki koshish karega kyonki pidit jupiter > in > > > 9th > > > > > Saturn ki drishti main hoga aur uska maksad surya ko dabaana > > hoga > > > > > (agar mandaa ho)isi karan lalkitab main mukaddmain ke vakyaat > > ka > > > > > jikra kiya gaya hai.Matalab yeh hai ki yadi 9th main mandaa > > > jupiter > > > > > ho to surya ka noor (aura) ghataane ke lihaz se mandaa shani > > > DIMAGI > > > > > KHANA NO. 15 se mushtarkaa hone ke kaaran mukaddma aur jail > ka > > > > karan > > > > > ban sakta hai.Jaisa ki mudit ji ne kaha hai.Aur kundli ki > > tafsil > > > > isi > > > > > ke mutabik jaanchne ke baad upay karna thik hoga varnaa manda > > > shani > > > > > 5th main bachche khane wala saanp jahir hogaa.Ab mande ye nek > > ka > > > > > nirnay puri kundli ke mazboon ko janchte hue karnaa hogaa > jaisa > > > ki > > > > > Mudut Ji ne kiya hai.Lalkitab main head per(jo ki rahu ki > > > milkiyat > > > > > hai)main 42 dimagi khano ka varnan hai. > > > > > I written according to the lalkitab " shani khana no. 5 " > > > > > With respect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > <mudit982001> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Res. Rakesh ji, > > > > > > Because Jupiter and Sun both are significator of 5th house. > > > > > > Sun= Government and related Departments > > > > > > Jupiter= Law > > > > > > This is my observation! and you try to apply this in that > > > > > horoscopes > > > > > > you see Saturn in 5th house once a time that person > > definately > > > go > > > > > to > > > > > > court in any matter. check it. If saturn aspected or > related > > > with > > > > > > papi enemy planet some time person compel to take " BAIL " . > > > > > > I again ask it is my observation do not take it otherwise. > > > > > > with > > regards. > > > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Mudit Bhai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal sirf > > itna > > > > ki > > > > > > aapne > > > > > > > kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat > are > > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > dear Rakesh ji, > > > > > > > > Saturn is enemy of Sun > > > > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Mudit Jee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in khaana > > #5. > > > > Why > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > particular symptom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the > > > > reference > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > legal > > > > > > > > > matters? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal > > position > > > > and > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > (2) > > > > > > > > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters > related > > to > > > > law? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava > > > > > > > <rajni4051> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below > > > written > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste > > Mali > > > > > halat > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain how > > to > > > > get > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > kee > > > > > > > > > > madad? > > > > > > > > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. > > BANDAR > > > > > SURYA > > > > > > KI > > > > > > > > > CHIZ > > > > > > > > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal > mEn > > > Badam > > > > > > > Mandir > > > > > > > > > mEn > > > > > > > > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal > the > > > > weight > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. > For > > > > Long > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in Janam > > > kundli > > > > > and > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July > 2004. > > > > Should > > > > > it > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 > > months? > > > > > Kindly > > > > > > > > reply. > > > > > > > > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY ASK > > HIM > > > > > > > > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA > NAHIN? > > > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > > > > > > > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > > > > > > > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > > > > > > > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2004 Report Share Posted July 17, 2004 Respected Khattar jee, yes, band-aid seems to be a good idea. never struck me. I was talking about a general male resistance, yes martaa kya na karataa. Thanks for your information. with respect to all the gurujan bhuwan lalkitab , Rajeev KKhattar <lalkitab@v...> wrote: > Dear Bhuwan Ji > regarding silver nose pin,You have written that " no male jatak would get > it done " .You are mistaken as i myself have got it done and my many > clients have got it done. jab fayda dikhta hai to har aadmi har kaam karta > hai...marta kya na karta !.. > we got inserted a silver wire and covered with band-aid for 96 hours.some > people use white thread instead of silver wire. it also works.This is for > your info only. > Regards > Rajeev K Khattar > > > - > " bhuwanvashishtha " <bhuwanvashishtha> > <lalkitab > > Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:54 AM > [lalkitab] Re: Shani Khana No.5 > > > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > { this is for your perusal } > > Studying the kundali as per your instructions: > > [ 1 ]In the Varsh Phal Venus is not in the adjacent { sanjhi- deewar } > house to either saturn or mercury. Venus is in the 7th house where as > saturn and mercury are in the 5th house. > > However in the Janma kundali venus is in the adjacent house . In this > case the upaya would be to throw the karak objects of jupiter in the > well for four days regularly. > > [ 2 ] " budh ke dayare mein guru ki hawa pahuchane ke liye " .. the > best upaya in my opinion would be to do ' naak chhedan 'and insert a > silver ring or a stud { keel or long } and keep it for 96 hours. But > no male jatak would get it done , therefore the alternative is to get > a silver stud inserted in one of the tooth...'daant mein chandi ki > keel lagwana'this is a very common and easy process , a dentist > drills a minute hole through a tooth and inserts a very thin silver > wire across.It has become quite fashionable , for young girls ,these > days to get gold or silver studs fixed to their teeth . > > would be obliged to have your views on it. > > with respect and regards for all the gurujan, > > bhuwan > > > > lalkitab , " lalkitabee " <lalkitabee> wrote: > > Priya Bhuvan > > U r right.But before going for the remedy of BADAAMS ,it is > also > > compulsry to know that where is sukra' in janm kundli & varsh > fal.If > > In varshfal sani & budh come to the 5th & according to u chandra is > > in 9th & sukra may be in 4th then 1st of all necessery to do remedy > > for sukra.Because sajhi diwar ke assol per sukra shani ko apne > mande > > asar se door nahi rahne dega & veh aadmi buri aadtain chhodne ki > > bajay unki taraf badhegaa aur baad main chot lagne per pachhtayega > > lekin fir bhi door nahi hat sakegaa.So 1st of all sukra ki remedy > > after that Shani ka badaam walaa upay.If Guru is in sound position > > then prescribe that remedy which make concern between ANDHERA & > > UJALA.I mean budh ke dayre main suraakh karo taaki guru ki hawaa > > ander baahar aaye jaaye aur budh ka tedhaa daant jehari (shani) ki > > thaili main se jehar nikaalne main nakaamyaab ho jaaye.Aapne > lalkitab > > main padha hoga ki guru ki hawaa hi shishe ke gole ke ander baher > > ghoomti hai.Isi karan budh shatru hai guru ka.Aur ye agar jehri ke > > andhere ki taqat ko badhaye aur guru per mili maar kare to iskaa > upay > > karnaa bhi jaroori hai.Now prescribe remedies after analyzing this. > > Best wishes > > Lalkitabee > > > > lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " > > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > > > > > Ref : res Rajni jee's query whether she should go ahead with two > > > upaya one of ` aam ke pedh par doodh' and second ` mandir mein > > baadam > > > le jakar wapas sthapit karna' > > > > > > I have a few observations to make with a request to you that you > > > should go through them and give your final verdict whether it is > > > right or not. > > > > > > First the ` aam ke pedh par dudh upaya' > > > > > > [ 1 ] Mercury and Saturn jointly [ mushtaraka ] are the karak of > a > > > mango tree [ page 890 of urdu ed 1952 ] but both these planets > are > > > considered joint only till the age of 39/40 { dono 39/40 > salaa > > > umra tak mushtaraka honge / mushtaraka milawat mein budh 4 hisse > to > > > shani 5 hisse hoga / page 890 }. > > > > > > [ 2 ] Even if the age were 39/40 , still both these planets could > > not > > > have been considered as joint because they are in the 5th house > > > where they are to be considered as separate planets and not as > > joint > > > planets [ baki ghar apana-apana phal hoga for 1,3,5,6,8 & 10 / > > page > > > 891] > > > > > > Therefore the `aam ke pedh par dudh' upaya can not be done.. Even > > > otherwise milk could not have been used because moon is placed in > > the > > > 9th house of the varsh phal . It is because of this moon mercury > in > > > the 5th house `jaag gaya hai'. And ` jaaga hua budh 5 mein ashubh > > > hota hai.' > > > > > > Thus the upaya has to be done for both the planets separately . > > > > > > Upaya for the mercury in the 5th is essential because : > > > > > > " guru chandra jab teve manda budh zahreela hota ho / > > > 3, chauthe , 7 , 9 graha baitha ; raakh hua sab jalataa ho/ " > > > > > > The upaya mentioned is : Wear a copper coin round the neck ` gale > > > mein tambe ka paisa khazane ki barkat dega [ page 556 urdu ed > > 1952 ] > > > > > > Now regarding the upaya for Saturn in the 5th house both in the > > > janma kundali and the varsh phal. > > > > > > ` varsh phal mein baadam mandir mein le jakar aadhe vapas la kar > > ghar > > > mein qayam rakhen - page 609 ] > > > shani ko mandir mein le jakar nek neeyatee ki qasam dilwana. > > > > > > Therefore the upaya will be ; > > > > > > Take 10 sabut baadam [ whole almonds with shell ] to the temple > > for > > > FIVE days regularly. Offer all the ten there in front of the > idol . > > > Of these 10 almonds leave 5 there and bring back with you the > other > > 5 > > > as a blessed prasaad . Thus at the end of the five days there > will > > > be 25 almonds at the house which have been brought back from the > > > temple. Keep them tied in a piece of yellow cloth. Do not eat > them. > > > > > > But why 10 baadam and not 1/10 th of the weight etc. The logic is > > > that the almonds at home should be in the multiples of 5 > signifying > > > the 5th house. Therefore the minimum number has to be 10 to be > > > carried to the temple then only there will be five almonds at > home > > > for each day. > > > > > > The other facts contained in the letter of res Rajni jee like no > > son, > > > age of the grandfather and the father, loss of money through > > > speculation , court case etc are all varifiable from the janma > > Kundali > > > > > > With respect for all the gurujan, > > > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected lalkitabeeji, Mudit ji and all group members, > > > > > > > > I am thrilled to have your attention on this i.e. Shani #5. > > > > > > > > Below written is my husband's teva and I describe all in detail. > > > > > > > > Please take a little pain to give some direction to me. > > > > > > > > {DOB 07/07/1947 TOB 00:20 SHARP POB MAYYAR HALT (HARYANA) > > LONGITUDE > > > 075.46-E LATITUDE 029.10-N} > > > > > > > > Lagan is Meen or Rassi#12 is written in Khana No.1 > > > > > > > > Mangal+ Rahu in khana no.3 > > > > > > > > Surya+ Shukra in no.4 > > > > > > > > Shani+ Budh in no.5 > > > > > > > > Guru in no.8 > > > > > > > > Ketu in no.9 > > > > > > > > Chandra in 11 > > > > > > > > He has two elder brothers and two elder sisters > > > > > > > > Grandfather died when my husband was 8 years old and the old > man > > > was 79, Father died in 1980 he was 77 years old, Mother died in > > 1991 > > > she was 84 years old, Eldest sister died in 2004 and she was73 > > > > > > > > He had a bad company in his teen age and started smoking, > > drinking, > > > meat eating and gambling. Passed his matriculation in 1963, B.A > in > > > 1972 in 2nd. Division. With the help of his brother in law (Jija) > > he > > > got job in a Bank as Cashier on 3rd. of July 1972.Got married in > > > 1974.First daughter was born in 1974, second in 1977 and third > > > in1985. Of course no SON. > > > > > > > > Lost a lot of money in Gambling until 1989. In 1989 he got Lal > > > kitab from one of his friends and started studying it and believe > > me > > > he stopped gambling. > > > > > > > > Purchased a big house in 1991 and sold in 1998 for almost > > 3500000/- > > > earned profit of about 2200000/- but lost in shares. > > > > > > > > He received many financial help from his eldest brother who is > > > settled in USA. > > > > > > > > Our two daughters are US citizen and doing very well there. > > > > > > > > In 1988 a friend (son of an advocate) came and asked my husband > > to > > > identify him in the office of sub registrar on a sale deed of > land > > > worth Rs.1900000/- which his friend purchased from some unknown > > > person who was introduced by some other advocate .My husband says > > he > > > identified his friend but the ambiguous legal language on the > > > document which he signed shows that the identification was of > > seller. > > > > > > > > The seller was fraud. > > > > > > > > After ten years real owner appeared and lodge, a criminal > > > complaint/case against my husband as the first witness who was an > > > advocate died in an accident in 1993. > > > > > > > > Therefore, since 1999 my husband is on bail and attending court > > > regularly. (This case is about to solve in his favour as the > > > purchaser has paid again the price of the land after negotiation). > > > > > > > > Regarding hair on body, I must say " sare sareer par kam aur > > baareek > > > bal hen " > > > > > > > > In fact, now my husband is a gem of person very coop. adjusting > > > nature, but at present, he has only one bad habit (hence this > > email) > > > i.e. daily drinking since last 20 years or more in the night > > > (probably never in the day time) and with a limit of 150 mi. He > > > himself wants to get rid of this bad habit but maybe his stars do > > not > > > allow or require any remedy > > > > > > > > His 58th. Varsphal is below written. > > > > > > > > Mangal+ Rahu #2 > > > > > > > > Ketu #3 > > > > > > > > Shani+ Budh #5 > > > > > > > > Surya+ Shukra #7 > > > > > > > > Guru #8 > > > > > > > > Chandra #9 > > > > > > > > Kindly suggest should he Do " Aam ke Vreksh pe dudh " wala upai > or > > > not. In addition, Badam Mandir lejakar adhey vapis la kar ghar me > > > kayam rekhna. > > > > > > > > Though this is a long letter but it is according to demand. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee> wrote: > > > > Priya bhuvan ji > > > > You wrote realy in direction but > > > > " MAINE LALKITAB KE EK PURVAVARTI ADDITION MAIN ISKI TAFSIL > KUCHH > > IS > > > > TARAH BHI PADHI HAI ---- Agar jism par jyadaa baal hon to > beshaq > > > chor > > > > farebi bhi bane,phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb aur mandaa > > haal > > > > khud apna aur aulad ka ho budh ka upay madadgaar hoga lagaataar > > 100 > > > > din tak/ aise shaks main pita ya surya ke asar ka nek nishan ka > > > naam > > > > tak bhi na hoga/ go ahle-qalam magar nirdhan ,chor farebi fir > bhi > > > > hoga/tanghaal , bhola baadshaah hoga /DIMAGI KHANA NO. 15 > > > BRIHASPATI > > > > SE MUSHTARKA KHUDDARI , muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam > > jhagara > > > > hoga HOVE. " > > > > ACCORDING TO THIS SHANI NO. 5 GURU NO. 9 KO GURU KI > MUFSIL > > > > MAIN PADHNAA BHI JAROORI HAI.AUR IS BAAT KA KHAAS KHYAAL > RAKHNAA > > > BHI > > > > JAROORI HAI KI GURU AUR SHANI KE MANDE YA PIDIT NA HONE PER AUR > > > SHUBH > > > > GRAHO SE DRISHT HONE PER " GURU SHANI MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN > > > > LEVAIN AUR PIDIT YA MANDE HONE PER BHI MANDI HALAT MAIN " GURU > > SHANI > > > > MUSHTARKA " KA FAL BHI JAAN LEVAIN. > > > > PRIYA BHUVAN aapne iski nishani bilkul spasht ki hai > > ki " agar > > > > jism per jyada baal ho to " lekin saath yeh bhi jaroori hai ki > > > beshak > > > > jism per jyadaa baal ho agar guru manda na ho aur shani mandaa > na > > > > kiyaa jaye to chor farebi to kya choro ka sardar hote hue bhi > > aisa > > > > sanyaasi hoga jiski maya ka bhed na jana ja sake ,matalab yeh > hai > > > ki > > > > yadi neki ke kaan kartaa rahegaa aur seena dhakker rahega to > > > duniyan > > > > main naam aur daam dono kamayega.Agar seena kholker chalegaa to > > > shani > > > > sareaam katl bhi karvaa saktaa hai bhale hi kitnaa naam aur > daam > > > kyon > > > > na kamaa le kuch bhi use bachaa nahi payegaa.Kyonki nek shani > bhi > > > > jiske shareer per adhik baal hovain seena khula rakhne per ya > > saanp > > > > marvaane per ya rahu ke 8th main hone per chhat badalwane per > > > (Khaas > > > > taur per TOILET ki chhat badalwane per mandaa ho jayegaa.Ab > > sawaal > > > > hai ki yadi sharir per jyaada baal ho to nek shani ka nirnay > > kaise > > > > kiyaa jaye.iske liye kundli main rahu ki tafsil ko dekhte hue > > uske > > > > mande vakyaat ka jikra kiya jaye aur guru ya shani kisse pidit > > > hain > > > > to uska faislaa kiyaa jaye maslan 12th main budh aur 5th main > > shani > > > > guru 9th main ho to guru to budh se dhoke ki nazar per baitha > > hogaa > > > > lekin mandaa shani budh ko takraav degaa kyonki 12th ka budh > 25% > > > > nazar shani ke headquarter per bhi rakhe hai isi karan takraav > ka > > > > jehari (shani) shaks ke dwara mandaa ker liye jane per guru ko > > > dhoka > > > > dene ke asool ke khilaaf jahar uglega , budh ka tedhaa daant > > saanp > > > ki > > > > thaili se is jehar ko nikalne ka sabab banker kisi ko maar > dene > > > ki > > > > taqat ya mande vaqt ka karan bhi banega lekin saanp ka apnaa > > vazood > > > > khatrey main padne per vahi saanp marne maarne ke asool per > chal > > > > padegaa kyonki use to aulad ka asr mandaa karne ke liye pratyek > > > shart > > > > manzoor hogi.Aulad to mandi hogi hi. > > > > Aisa maine aap aur mudit ji ke nazariye ko lalkitab ke dayre > main > > > hi > > > > aur adhik vistrit karne ka prayaas kiyaa hai.ummid hai ki mere > is > > > > nazariye ke mutabik SHANI NO. 5 ko samajhne main adhik madad > > milegi > > > > aur aap sabhi adhik badhia chintan ker sakenge.Vaise lalkitab > ek > > > > samudra hai maine ek dubki lagaane ka prayaas kiyaa aur is > > sandarbh > > > > main jo hasil hua use aap sabke saamne rakhaa hai. > > > > With regards > > > > lalkitabee > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhuwanvashishtha " > > > > <bhuwanvashishtha> wrote: > > > > > Aadarniya Lal Kitabee jee, > > > > > > > > > > With due respect I want to add that the only reference of > court > > > > case > > > > > occurs in these lines { Lal Kitab , page 610 urdu > ed1952 ,Shani > > > 5 - > > > > > mandi halat # 2 } > > > > > > > > > > " tamaam jism par jyadaa baal hon to beshaq chor farebi bhi > > bane, > > > > > phir bhi mand bhagya aur badnaseeb hoga / go ahle-qalam magar > > > > nirdhan > > > > > hi hoga / muqaddama , zahmat , beemari ka aam jhagara hoga / " > > > > > > > > > > Therefore, the possibility of court cases will be if he has a > > lot > > > > of > > > > > hair on his body. > > > > > > > > > > With respect to all gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " lalkitabee " > <lalkitabee> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected Mudit Ji & Sehgal JI > > > > > > Sorry for going between both of you.Yes Mudit is > right > > > in > > > > > his > > > > > > way but another factor about this is --- if jupiter is in > 9th > > > and > > > > > it > > > > > > seems to be PIDIT by moon or any other pattern of drishti > or > > by > > > > > sukra > > > > > > (Venus)then " Shani ka andhera surya ki roshni ko Kanoon > > > (Jupiter) > > > > > ki > > > > > > takat se mandaa karne ki koshish karega kyonki pidit > jupiter > > in > > > > 9th > > > > > > Saturn ki drishti main hoga aur uska maksad surya ko > dabaana > > > hoga > > > > > > (agar mandaa ho)isi karan lalkitab main mukaddmain ke > vakyaat > > > ka > > > > > > jikra kiya gaya hai.Matalab yeh hai ki yadi 9th main mandaa > > > > jupiter > > > > > > ho to surya ka noor (aura) ghataane ke lihaz se mandaa > shani > > > > DIMAGI > > > > > > KHANA NO. 15 se mushtarkaa hone ke kaaran mukaddma aur jail > > ka > > > > > karan > > > > > > ban sakta hai.Jaisa ki mudit ji ne kaha hai.Aur kundli ki > > > tafsil > > > > > isi > > > > > > ke mutabik jaanchne ke baad upay karna thik hoga varnaa > manda > > > > shani > > > > > > 5th main bachche khane wala saanp jahir hogaa.Ab mande ye > nek > > > ka > > > > > > nirnay puri kundli ke mazboon ko janchte hue karnaa hogaa > > jaisa > > > > ki > > > > > > Mudut Ji ne kiya hai.Lalkitab main head per(jo ki rahu ki > > > > milkiyat > > > > > > hai)main 42 dimagi khano ka varnan hai. > > > > > > I written according to the lalkitab " shani khana no. 5 " > > > > > > With respect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lalkitabee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Res. Rakesh ji, > > > > > > > Because Jupiter and Sun both are significator of 5th > house. > > > > > > > Sun= Government and related Departments > > > > > > > Jupiter= Law > > > > > > > This is my observation! and you try to apply this in that > > > > > > horoscopes > > > > > > > you see Saturn in 5th house once a time that person > > > definately > > > > go > > > > > > to > > > > > > > court in any matter. check it. If saturn aspected or > > related > > > > with > > > > > > > papi enemy planet some time person compel to take " BAIL " . > > > > > > > I again ask it is my observation do not take it otherwise. > > > > > > > with > > > regards. > > > > > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Mudit Bhai > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jawab dene ki meherbaaani ke liye shukriyaa. Sawaal > sirf > > > itna > > > > > ki > > > > > > > aapne > > > > > > > > kanoon ke masle kaa hi zikar kyun kiyaa. I know Sun Sat > > are > > > > > > enemies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear Rakesh ji, > > > > > > > > > Saturn is enemy of Sun > > > > > > > > > mudit982001 > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > > > > > > > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mudit Jee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your reference to legal problems for Shani in > khaana > > > #5. > > > > > Why > > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > > > particular symptom? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hs #5 governs both future and children. So why the > > > > > reference > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > legal > > > > > > > > > > matters? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also Hs #5 kaa maalik Sun. Sun governs (1) Royal > > > position > > > > > and > > > > > > > > also > > > > > > > > > (2) > > > > > > > > > > Official work- Do any of this refer to matters > > related > > > to > > > > > law? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance for any clarification/guidance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " Mudit982001 " > > > > > > > <mudit982001> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajni Bhargava > > > > > > > > <rajni4051> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Senior, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kindly guide other and me regarding two below > > > > written > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1 Shani Khana #1. Upai vaste > > > Mali > > > > > > halat > > > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > > > kee madad Ya Bandar palna. Can any body explain > how > > > to > > > > > get > > > > > > > Surya > > > > > > > > > > kee > > > > > > > > > > > madad? > > > > > > > > > > > ANS:- PEHLA GHAR SURYA KA PAKKA GHAR HEY ISLIYE. > > > BANDAR > > > > > > SURYA > > > > > > > KI > > > > > > > > > > CHIZ > > > > > > > > > > > HEY. ESKI PALNA KARNE SE SURYA KO MAZBOOTI MILEGI. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2 Shani Khana #5. Varshphal > > mEn > > > > Badam > > > > > > > > Mandir > > > > > > > > > > mEn > > > > > > > > > > > lejakar ½ wapis Ghar mEn Kayam rekhey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How much Badam? Is it equal > > the > > > > > weight > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > Jatak or 1/10 of the Native or any weight is O.K. > > For > > > > > Long > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > should be kept, if Shani is in khana no.5 in > Janam > > > > kundli > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > varsh phal this year which started from 7 July > > 2004. > > > > > Should > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > > done in the beginning of Varsh Phal or after 8 > > > months? > > > > > > Kindly > > > > > > > > > reply. > > > > > > > > > > > IF PERSON HAVE SATURN IN 5TH HOUSE THAN FIRSTLY > ASK > > > HIM > > > > > > > > > > > IS HE FACE ANY COURT CASE? > > > > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK MAGISTRATE KE SAMNE PESH HUAA HEY YA > > NAHIN? > > > > > > > > > > > KYA JATAK NE KABHI APANI BAIL KARYI HEY? > > > > > > > > > > > EN NISHANIYON KO DEKH KAR FAISLA KAREN. > > > > > > > > > > > ANS:- DO THE UPAY BEGINNING OF VARSHAPHAL. > > > > > > > > > > > MAIN ES STHITI MAIN DO UPAY KARATA HOON. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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