Guest guest Posted July 22, 2004 Report Share Posted July 22, 2004 Res. Archana jee, At quite a few places in the Lal Kitab , it has been specifically mentioned that the Upaya material should not be taken without having to pay for it. The manner of payment could be either in cash or kind. Unless the Upaya material is paid for it is not going to be effective. Secondly , and more importantly , no body should give any upaya material for free. In that situation it will be considered as a 'daan'. And no body should gift any thing which could be a karak of a benefic planet in his kundali. Respected Bhatia jee has rightly advised you to charge for the material you have sent. There could be a possibility that Venus and Saturn are benefic planets in your kundali and therefore gifting peach guthli and surma might have bad effects on you. As regards the manner of payment, your suggestion of gifting the cost at a temple seems fine to me. with regards to all the gurujan, bhuwan lalkitab , archana chouhan <antara190196> wrote: > Dear Rajniji, > > I only suggested Mr. Shyam sunderji to donate 11/- in > my name and cut the receipt in my name, this was only > my idea, just because as the material that i am > sending him is of negligible value and sending cheque > or draft or money order for such a small amount will > cost more to him than the cost of material, so what i > thought that this will be the best and wise way for > Shyam sunderji to pay back to me without any further > complications, but i am not still sure that this > method works of not, i will only be clear only on > getting suggestion from Bhatia ji, and if works that > it will be very comfortable way which can be used in > future in case any of our group member is in such > problem, and this way we can help each other. > > > BHATIA JEE - WAITING FOR YOUR FURTHER ADVICE AND > SUGGESTIONS AT THE EARLIEST SO THAT MR SHYAM SUNDERJI > CAN TAKE THE ACTION ACCORDINGLY. > > Best regards > > ARCHANA CHOUHAN > --- Syndhu <sindhu_b> wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > I think its clear that a person must pay for his/her > > remedy - the only reason being that it may otherwise > > not be fruitful to the person. Am i right, > > Bhatiajee? > > > > Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> wrote: > > > > Respected Bhatia Jee, > > > > In small towns or cities, of Haryana / Punjab > > goldsmiths don't charge even a single penny, for > > piercing nose as it may be there tradition of trade. > > In that case is it O.K to donate a certain amount in > > temple / Dharmsthan. > > With Regards > > Rajni > > Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002> > > wrote: Archana Jee, > > The cost of material must be paid for by the > > beneficiary. The mailing charges are entirely a > > matter between the two parties. Actually, here in > > the West, mailing/handling charges are always added > > to the cost - use your discretion. > > Respectfully, > > Rajinder Bhatia > > ============ > > > > archana chouhan <antara190196> wrote: > > Respected Rajinderji, > > > > As you advice sir, if so i will definetly send the > > total cost of the material, which i am sure will not > > be more than 5-6 Rs. which will only be the cost of > > surma, as peach gittak has no value and if you want > > me > > to take money against that also than i will take a > > very nomimal negligible amount just to complete the > > formalities but hope i can refuse taking courier > > cost > > as courier is not a part of remedy. > > > > What do you say Rajinder jee is that ok, pls. advise > > as latest by tomorrow i will send the material to > > Shyamsunder jee > > > > Best Regards > > > > ARCHANA CHOUHAN > > --- Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002> > > wrote: > > > Archana Jee, > > > It is so gracious of you to help in offering to > > > arrange for the material for upaya. There is only > > > one important thing to note. No material for > > > remedial measures should be given/taken free of > > > cost. Please ensure that the person doing the > > upaya > > > pays for the postage and the cost of surmaa. It is > > a > > > very minor issue but the remedial measures must > > not > > > be done with stuff acquired free of cost. > > > Respectfully, > > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > > archana chouhan <antara190196> wrote: > > > Dear Shyamsunderji > > > > > > We here as a group is like a family and would > > always > > > like to have thee best benifits from lalkitabee > > > experts, and being a family member are always here > > > to > > > help each other in some form or other. So do not > > be > > > confused, if you do not mind and if experts > > permits > > > me > > > to do so may i courier the peach gittak and surma > > > for > > > you doing the suggested remedy,(FOR I AM NOT AT > > ALL > > > CONFUSED ON THIS MATTER) hope you do not take it > > > otherwise my intentions are only to help you out > > > from > > > your confusion and get the upaay suggested done at > > > the > > > earliest so that you are benefited at the > > earliest. > > > > > > pls. have the advice from experts and let me know > > > your > > > address and ph. no. so that i can do the needful > > at > > > the earliest. > > > > > > Best regards > > > > > > ARCHANA CHOUHAN > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vote for the stars of 's next ad campaign! > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted July 23, 2004 Report Share Posted July 23, 2004 Respected Bhuwanji Thank you very much for your mail, GUIDENCE AND ADVICE, this mail of your has made me feel lighter, as the cost of material was so low that it was practically not possible to get thru cheque, draft or money order, now even Shyamsunderji will also feel better as according to me this is the best and easiest way to pay for the cost of material. Thanking you once again, sincere regards ARCHANA CHOUHAN --- bhuwanvashishtha <bhuwanvashishtha wrote: > Res. Archana jee, > > At quite a few places in the Lal Kitab , it has been > specifically > mentioned that the Upaya material should not be > taken without having > to pay for it. The manner of payment could be either > in cash or kind. > Unless the Upaya material is paid for it is not > going to be effective. > > Secondly , and more importantly , no body should > give any upaya > material for free. In that situation it will be > considered as > a 'daan'. And no body should gift any thing which > could be a karak > of a benefic planet in his kundali. > > Respected Bhatia jee has rightly advised you to > charge for the > material you have sent. There could be a possibility > that Venus and > Saturn are benefic planets in your kundali and > therefore gifting > peach guthli and surma might have bad effects on > you. > > As regards the manner of payment, your suggestion of > gifting the cost > at a temple seems fine to me. > > with regards to all the gurujan, > > bhuwan lalkitab , archana chouhan > <antara190196> > wrote: > > Dear Rajniji, > > > > I only suggested Mr. Shyam sunderji to donate 11/- > in > > my name and cut the receipt in my name, this was > only > > my idea, just because as the material that i am > > sending him is of negligible value and sending > cheque > > or draft or money order for such a small amount > will > > cost more to him than the cost of material, so > what i > > thought that this will be the best and wise way > for > > Shyam sunderji to pay back to me without any > further > > complications, but i am not still sure that this > > method works of not, i will only be clear only on > > getting suggestion from Bhatia ji, and if works > that > > it will be very comfortable way which can be used > in > > future in case any of our group member is in such > > problem, and this way we can help each other. > > > > > > BHATIA JEE - WAITING FOR YOUR FURTHER ADVICE AND > > SUGGESTIONS AT THE EARLIEST SO THAT MR SHYAM > SUNDERJI > > CAN TAKE THE ACTION ACCORDINGLY. > > > > Best regards > > > > ARCHANA CHOUHAN > > --- Syndhu <sindhu_b> wrote: > > > Dear Sir, > > > I think its clear that a person must pay for > his/her > > > remedy - the only reason being that it may > otherwise > > > not be fruitful to the person. Am i right, > > > Bhatiajee? > > > > > > Rajni Bhargava <rajni4051> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Bhatia Jee, > > > > > > In small towns or cities, of Haryana / Punjab > > > goldsmiths don't charge even a single penny, for > > > piercing nose as it may be there tradition of > trade. > > > In that case is it O.K to donate a certain > amount in > > > temple / Dharmsthan. > > > With Regards > > > Rajni > > > Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002> > > > wrote: Archana Jee, > > > The cost of material must be paid for by the > > > beneficiary. The mailing charges are entirely a > > > matter between the two parties. Actually, here > in > > > the West, mailing/handling charges are always > added > > > to the cost - use your discretion. > > > Respectfully, > > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > ============ > > > > > > archana chouhan <antara190196> wrote: > > > Respected Rajinderji, > > > > > > As you advice sir, if so i will definetly send > the > > > total cost of the material, which i am sure will > not > > > be more than 5-6 Rs. which will only be the cost > of > > > surma, as peach gittak has no value and if you > want > > > me > > > to take money against that also than i will take > a > > > very nomimal negligible amount just to complete > the > > > formalities but hope i can refuse taking courier > > > cost > > > as courier is not a part of remedy. > > > > > > What do you say Rajinder jee is that ok, pls. > advise > > > as latest by tomorrow i will send the material > to > > > Shyamsunder jee > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > ARCHANA CHOUHAN > > > --- Rajinder Bhatia <rajinderbhatia2002> > > > wrote: > > > > Archana Jee, > > > > It is so gracious of you to help in offering > to > > > > arrange for the material for upaya. There is > only > > > > one important thing to note. No material for > > > > remedial measures should be given/taken free > of > > > > cost. Please ensure that the person doing the > > > upaya > > > > pays for the postage and the cost of surmaa. > It is > > > a > > > > very minor issue but the remedial measures > must > > > not > > > > be done with stuff acquired free of cost. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Rajinder Bhatia > > > > > > > > archana chouhan <antara190196> wrote: > > > > Dear Shyamsunderji > > > > > > > > We here as a group is like a family and would > > > always > > > > like to have thee best benifits from > lalkitabee > > > > experts, and being a family member are always > here > > > > to > > > > help each other in some form or other. So do > not > > > be > > > > confused, if you do not mind and if experts > > > permits > > > > me > > > > to do so may i courier the peach gittak and > surma > > > > for > > > > you doing the suggested remedy,(FOR I AM NOT > AT > > > ALL > > > > CONFUSED ON THIS MATTER) hope you do not take > it > > > > otherwise my intentions are only to help you > out > > > > from > > > > your confusion and get the upaay suggested > done at > > > > the > > > > earliest so that you are benefited at the > > > earliest. > > > > > > > > pls. have the advice from experts and let me > know > > > > your > === message truncated === Vote for the stars of 's next ad campaign! http://advision.webevents.//votelifeengine/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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