Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Dear Khattar saheb, I respect your views, but I am afraid can't agree with you. Lets not insulate a system. In my opinion various `paddhatis' are complimentary to each other and don't work at cross purposes. But this could be a matter for separate academic discussion. I formulated a few questions based on my knowledge of Vedic system , along with the names of the planets , hoping that some of you would add a few more based on your familiarity with Lal Kitab system . Incidentally , Mr Mudit too draws a few questions from the vedic system and if he mentions the planets along with the questions , as I did , you would yourself recognize those questions which are out of the Lal Kitab system. I see no harm when Mr Mudit does it. As a matter of fact I support his approach of enriching the system with the available knowledge. Lets not treat knowledge as `achhoot' With regards, Priya lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> wrote: > Dear Priya Ji > when u r in rome, do as romans do. You are in lalkitab forum and trying to > see horoscope from vedic system !!.You will not gain lalkitab's knowledge by > checking horoscope from vedic point of view.Kindly go through previous > messages,seniors have written not to mix the two systems..never. > open lalkitab or arun samhita and then start checking each n every planet > from that book..then ask the questions. > wishing you good luck...always > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > - > bhooshanpriya <bhooshanpriya> > <lalkitab > > Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:42 AM > [lalkitab] Re: DIY... sure , lets give it a try > > > > > > correction, > > > > Ooooops , my bad, > > moon: should read 'didn't have a smooth education' > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " <bhooshanpriya> > > wrote: > > > Dear Rakesh, > > > > > > Sure, I'd love to join you. I am not quite familiar with the Lal > > > Kitab , still a beginner,but I am not bad at Vedic astrology. Shall > > > we begin with the verification questions ? In vedic system such > > > questions are asked only if the 'lagna' is either a borderline > > case , > > > or the 'lagna' is not known at all. But as I see here , the > > questions > > > are asked as a matter of routine. How do the answers influence the > > > analysis is never shared. > > > > > > However, I am framing a few questions based on my knowledge of > > Vedic > > > system. You could add a few based on your Lal Kitab experience , > > and > > > lets see what meal we make out of it. > > > > > > Verification questions for Harish , based on Vedic astrology system: > > > > > > Sun : Are you the only son ? > > > During this year , did you fight any election and lose ? > > > Did some one you trusted , betray you this year? > > > > > > Moon: Has your education been ever disrupted ? Didn't have a > > > education. > > > > > > Mars : Have you ever had the throat problem or problems of the > > > stomach ? You might have sisters but no brother. Have > > > your hair started thinning at the top of your head? > > > > > > Jupiter : Do you have any speech defect? Did either your father > > > or grandfather suffer from asthma? > > > > > > Saturn : Do you live in a house situated at a blind alley? > > > have you ever had any liver problem? Or did you > > > ever have to undergo an operation? > > > > > > Rahu : The day you were born , was it a day when it rained? > > > Were you born at your Nana's house? Or if born at > > > your's , was either Nana or Nani present there? > > > Did your father have some problem this year, problem > > > of health or financial? Have you got a black 'til' > > > on your face? > > > > > > > > > Hope to continue the exercise, > > > > > > with love, > > > > > > priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " <rakeshsahgal> > > > wrote: > > > > Priya Jee > > > > > > > > Want to try the DIY method? > > > > > > > > I am inviting you and anyone else who is interested to join me in > > > > analysing the details for the horoscope posted right now by > > > > StudentIndia aka Harish. We can ask Khattar Sahib to be the team > > > > leader and guide us in practical application of the methodology > > for > > > > fixing the ascendant. > > > > > > > > Needless to add we might end up making absolute fools of > > ourselves > > > but > > > > hopefully Khattar sahib will stop us from doing that and point us > > in > > > > the right direction. Agreed Rajeev jee? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > > > <bhooshanpriya> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Dear Khattar saheb and bhuwan, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for being so prompt and lucid.I am grateful for > > both > > > > of > > > > > you being so helpful. Wish that Mudit ji and Lal Kitabee ji too > > > > would > > > > > listen to my request of mentioning the name of the planets when > > > > > asking verification questions. > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar > > <lalkitab@v...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhuwan Ji > > > > > > Thanks for your prompt contribution. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > bhuwanvashishtha <bhuwanvashishtha> > > > > > > <lalkitab > > > > > > > Monday, August 16, 2004 9:42 AM > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: chhuare in a car - the reasons > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Priya di, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding on to what respected Khattar jee has said : > > > > > > > > > > > > A car , or for that matter any vehicle , is considered a > > > > > `mushtariqa > > > > > > object of Saturn and moon'. > > > > > > > > > > > > " lohe ki aisi machine jis par savari karke insaan ghore ki > > > tarah > > > > > > chal sake , maslan motor laari, ya lohe ki safar ki cheez " > > > > page > > > > > > 840, 1952 ed } > > > > > > > > > > > > Similar expression in Arun sanhita of 52 ed page 295. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if a vehicle is taken as a karak object of combined > > Saturn > > > + > > > > > > moon , what it could result in. It is explained in these > > lines: > > > > > > > > > > > > " dono mushtaraqa mein andha ghora ya dariya mein bahata > > > > makan > > > > > > hoga " when acting manda. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not have to explain where a blind horse would lead to > > and > > > > > where > > > > > > a floating house on a river would anchor at. > > > > > > > > > > > > This is further explained in the 1939 ed of Lal Kitab { arun > > > > > sanhita > > > > > > 39 ed page 312 } > > > > > > > > > > > > " dono sanjha : kachhua , fata hua doodh , motor lari ya lohe > > > ki > > > > > > safar ki cheez vagerah, ya deegar hathiyar hoga / jo shani ya > > > > > chandra > > > > > > ke apne apne oonche gharon mein bhi khud kundali wale par > > maut > > > ka > > > > > > hamala ityadi hone ki ghatana hogi/ ...chandra shani sanjha > > > hone > > > > > par > > > > > > chandra ki maya { dhan daulat } shani ke syah rang ki tarah > > > syah > > > > > munh > > > > > > maya hogi yani chandi ka rupiya bhi har tarh se kala va > > chhota > > > > > > maloom hoga halaki khalis chandi ka hi { uchcha chandra khana > > > 2 } > > > > > > kyon na ho / shani ka swayam bhi zahar mila hua hoga / shani > > ke > > > > > makan > > > > > > araam dene ki bajaya dukh ka nateeja honge " > > > > > > > > > > > > The effect of this combination would be perceptible even if > > it > > > > > might > > > > > > occur in the houses of exaltation for either of the two > > > planets. > > > > > The > > > > > > exaltation rasi of both these planets `vrash' and `tula' are > > > > > > associated with venus the karak planet of journeys on land . > > > > There > > > > > > are three key words here ` maut ka hamala' , `syah munh maya' > > > and > > > > > > > > > ` > > > > > > dukh ka nateeja'. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now quite a few upaya have been suggested in the book to take > > > > care > > > > > of > > > > > > the `manda' effects of this combination. " dono grahon ki > > > vahami > > > > > > mandi halat se bachav ke liye sooraj ka upaya madadgar > > > > > hoga ....ghar > > > > > > mein lohe ka tofu bara box hone ke waqt us mein chandi ki > > thali > > > > > mein > > > > > > pani rakhe rahana mubarik jabki dono grah khana 5 mein na > > hon > > > > > varna > > > > > > jab vah no 5 mein hon to mangal shanishchar mushtarqa ki > > aashiya > > > > us > > > > > > safe mein rakhni mubarik hogi " { page 843 , ed 52} > > > > > > > > > > > > Keeping chhuare { mushtariqa aashiya of mars and Saturn } is > > > > > advised > > > > > > only when this combination occurs in the 5th house , > > otherwise > > > > > > keeping river water in a silver container or `sooraj ka > > upaya' > > > is > > > > > > suggested. > > > > > > > > > > > > And it was also suggested to carry a pup in the car when > > driving > > > > it > > > > > > home for the first time. The explanation is simple. > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani + moon = ketu neech { masnui grah }, Therefore in > > order > > > > to > > > > > > take care of this aspect it is advised that one should carry a > > > > pup > > > > > > home. But the pup must be all black . " mande waqt do range > > > > > janwaron > > > > > > ka matha syah kar den " . As a matter of fact quite a few > > > people > > > > > have > > > > > > a toy pup kept in their cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope this explanation might help you understand the logic > > of > > > > > this > > > > > > Lal Kitab upaya. > > > > > > With regards and naman to gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , lalkitab@v... wrote: > > > > > > > Dear members > > > > > > > To the best of my knowledge,dry dates represents > > combination > > > of > > > > > > Mars + Saturn. As per traditional astrology,this combination > > is > > > > > > responsible for accidents/operations. > > > > > > > I personally think Roop chand Joshi ji must have told > > > did't > > > > > write > > > > > > in the book ) to a few of his visitors/friends or some > > > > lalkitabist > > > > > > must have experimented ( keeping respresentation of dry dates > > > in > > > > > > mind ) with keeping dry dates in vehicle and it proved to be > > > > > > effective against accidents/mishaps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i would like to share one incident with all of you.on > > hearing > > > > > about > > > > > > this remedy/suggestion , i kept 3 pieces of dry dates in my > > > > > scooter's > > > > > > dicky in 1996.on that very day traffic policeman caught me for > > > > not > > > > > > wearing the helmet...immidieately i threw the dry dates out > > and > > > > got > > > > > > escaped from challan ....he left me by giving a warning > > > only..no > > > > > > bribe even ! since that day i have never kept dry dates in my > > > any > > > > > of > > > > > > vehicles and no accidents/mishaps also ( By the Grace of > > God ). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that incident gave me a thought that this can't be taken as > > a > > > > > > general remedy for everybody but for people with specific > > > > > > astrological combination only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurujans kindly comment ! > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev k Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > bhooshanpriya <bhooshanpriya> > > > > > > > Sunday, August 15, 2004 5:48 pm > > > > > > > [lalkitab] chhuare in a car - the reasons > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear experts, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A question had been asked , some time ago , and still > > > > > unanswered > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > to why dry dates [ chhuare ] should be kept in a car ? > > Its > > > > > > > > astrological reasons? Would any of the experts answer > > that > > > > > please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Priya ji, I agree to you. But IMO mixing different branches will not help much in learning Lal Kitab. We all are here for learning Lal Kitab, isn't it? IMHO we should try to stick to Lal Kitab principles as much as possible. What do you think? Regards, Punit Pandey On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 04:59:43 -0000, bhooshanpriya <bhooshanpriya wrote: > > Dear Khattar saheb, > > I respect your views, but I am afraid can't agree with you. Lets not > insulate a system. In my opinion various `paddhatis' are > complimentary to each other and don't work at cross purposes. But > this could be a matter for separate academic discussion. > > I formulated a few questions based on my knowledge of Vedic system , > along with the names of the planets , hoping that some of you would > add a few more based on your familiarity with Lal Kitab system . > > Incidentally , Mr Mudit too draws a few questions from the vedic > system and if he mentions the planets along with the questions , as I > did , you would yourself recognize those questions which are out of > the Lal Kitab system. I see no harm when Mr Mudit does it. As a > matter of fact I support his approach of enriching the system with > the available knowledge. > > Lets not treat knowledge as `achhoot' > > With regards, > > Priya > > lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > wrote: > > Dear Priya Ji > > when u r in rome, do as romans do. You are in lalkitab forum and > trying to > > see horoscope from vedic system !!.You will not gain lalkitab's > knowledge by > > checking horoscope from vedic point of view.Kindly go through > previous > > messages,seniors have written not to mix the two systems..never. > > open lalkitab or arun samhita and then start checking each n every > planet > > from that book..then ask the questions. > > wishing you good luck...always > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > - > > bhooshanpriya <bhooshanpriya> > > <lalkitab > > > Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:42 AM > > [lalkitab] Re: DIY... sure , lets give it a try > > > > > > > > > > correction, > > > > > > Ooooops , my bad, > > > moon: should read 'didn't have a smooth education' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > <bhooshanpriya> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Rakesh, > > > > > > > > Sure, I'd love to join you. I am not quite familiar with the Lal > > > > Kitab , still a beginner,but I am not bad at Vedic astrology. > Shall > > > > we begin with the verification questions ? In vedic system such > > > > questions are asked only if the 'lagna' is either a borderline > > > case , > > > > or the 'lagna' is not known at all. But as I see here , the > > > questions > > > > are asked as a matter of routine. How do the answers influence > the > > > > analysis is never shared. > > > > > > > > However, I am framing a few questions based on my knowledge of > > > Vedic > > > > system. You could add a few based on your Lal Kitab experience , > > > and > > > > lets see what meal we make out of it. > > > > > > > > Verification questions for Harish , based on Vedic astrology > system: > > > > > > > > Sun : Are you the only son ? > > > > During this year , did you fight any election and lose ? > > > > Did some one you trusted , betray you this year? > > > > > > > > Moon: Has your education been ever disrupted ? Didn't have a > > > > education. > > > > > > > > Mars : Have you ever had the throat problem or problems of the > > > > stomach ? You might have sisters but no brother. Have > > > > your hair started thinning at the top of your head? > > > > > > > > Jupiter : Do you have any speech defect? Did either your father > > > > or grandfather suffer from asthma? > > > > > > > > Saturn : Do you live in a house situated at a blind alley? > > > > have you ever had any liver problem? Or did you > > > > ever have to undergo an operation? > > > > > > > > Rahu : The day you were born , was it a day when it rained? > > > > Were you born at your Nana's house? Or if born at > > > > your's , was either Nana or Nani present there? > > > > Did your father have some problem this year, problem > > > > of health or financial? Have you got a black 'til' > > > > on your face? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope to continue the exercise, > > > > > > > > with love, > > > > > > > > priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Priya Jee > > > > > > > > > > Want to try the DIY method? > > > > > > > > > > I am inviting you and anyone else who is interested to join > me in > > > > > analysing the details for the horoscope posted right now by > > > > > StudentIndia aka Harish. We can ask Khattar Sahib to be the > team > > > > > leader and guide us in practical application of the > methodology > > > for > > > > > fixing the ascendant. > > > > > > > > > > Needless to add we might end up making absolute fools of > > > ourselves > > > > but > > > > > hopefully Khattar sahib will stop us from doing that and > point us > > > in > > > > > the right direction. Agreed Rajeev jee? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > > > > <bhooshanpriya> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Khattar saheb and bhuwan, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for being so prompt and lucid.I am grateful for > > > both > > > > > of > > > > > > you being so helpful. Wish that Mudit ji and Lal Kitabee ji > too > > > > > would > > > > > > listen to my request of mentioning the name of the planets > when > > > > > > asking verification questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar > > > <lalkitab@v...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Bhuwan Ji > > > > > > > Thanks for your prompt contribution. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > bhuwanvashishtha <bhuwanvashishtha> > > > > > > > <lalkitab > > > > > > > > Monday, August 16, 2004 9:42 AM > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: chhuare in a car - the reasons > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Priya di, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding on to what respected Khattar jee has said : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A car , or for that matter any vehicle , is considered a > > > > > > `mushtariqa > > > > > > > object of Saturn and moon'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " lohe ki aisi machine jis par savari karke insaan ghore > ki > > > > tarah > > > > > > > chal sake , maslan motor laari, ya lohe ki safar ki cheez " > > > > > > page > > > > > > > 840, 1952 ed } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similar expression in Arun sanhita of 52 ed page 295. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if a vehicle is taken as a karak object of combined > > > Saturn > > > > + > > > > > > > moon , what it could result in. It is explained in these > > > lines: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " dono mushtaraqa mein andha ghora ya dariya mein > bahata > > > > > makan > > > > > > > hoga " when acting manda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not have to explain where a blind horse would lead to > > > and > > > > > > where > > > > > > > a floating house on a river would anchor at. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is further explained in the 1939 ed of Lal Kitab { > arun > > > > > > sanhita > > > > > > > 39 ed page 312 } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " dono sanjha : kachhua , fata hua doodh , motor lari ya > lohe > > > > ki > > > > > > > safar ki cheez vagerah, ya deegar hathiyar hoga / jo > shani ya > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > ke apne apne oonche gharon mein bhi khud kundali wale par > > > maut > > > > ka > > > > > > > hamala ityadi hone ki ghatana hogi/ ...chandra shani > sanjha > > > > hone > > > > > > par > > > > > > > chandra ki maya { dhan daulat } shani ke syah rang ki > tarah > > > > syah > > > > > > munh > > > > > > > maya hogi yani chandi ka rupiya bhi har tarh se kala va > > > chhota > > > > > > > maloom hoga halaki khalis chandi ka hi { uchcha chandra > khana > > > > 2 } > > > > > > > kyon na ho / shani ka swayam bhi zahar mila hua hoga / > shani > > > ke > > > > > > makan > > > > > > > araam dene ki bajaya dukh ka nateeja honge " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The effect of this combination would be perceptible even > if > > > it > > > > > > might > > > > > > > occur in the houses of exaltation for either of the two > > > > planets. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > exaltation rasi of both these planets `vrash' and `tula' > are > > > > > > > associated with venus the karak planet of journeys on > land . > > > > > There > > > > > > > are three key words here ` maut ka hamala' , `syah munh > maya' > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > ` > > > > > > > dukh ka nateeja'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now quite a few upaya have been suggested in the book to > take > > > > > care > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the `manda' effects of this combination. " dono grahon ki > > > > vahami > > > > > > > mandi halat se bachav ke liye sooraj ka upaya madadgar > > > > > > hoga ....ghar > > > > > > > mein lohe ka tofu bara box hone ke waqt us mein chandi ki > > > thali > > > > > > mein > > > > > > > pani rakhe rahana mubarik jabki dono grah khana 5 mein na > > > hon > > > > > > varna > > > > > > > jab vah no 5 mein hon to mangal shanishchar mushtarqa ki > > > aashiya > > > > > us > > > > > > > safe mein rakhni mubarik hogi " { page 843 , ed 52} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keeping chhuare { mushtariqa aashiya of mars and Saturn } > is > > > > > > advised > > > > > > > only when this combination occurs in the 5th house , > > > otherwise > > > > > > > keeping river water in a silver container or `sooraj ka > > > upaya' > > > > is > > > > > > > suggested. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And it was also suggested to carry a pup in the car when > > > driving > > > > > it > > > > > > > home for the first time. The explanation is simple. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani + moon = ketu neech { masnui grah }, Therefore in > > > order > > > > > to > > > > > > > take care of this aspect it is advised that one should > carry a > > > > > pup > > > > > > > home. But the pup must be all black . " mande waqt do > range > > > > > > janwaron > > > > > > > ka matha syah kar den " . As a matter of fact quite a few > > > > people > > > > > > have > > > > > > > a toy pup kept in their cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope this explanation might help you understand the > logic > > > of > > > > > > this > > > > > > > Lal Kitab upaya. > > > > > > > With regards and naman to gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , lalkitab@v... wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear members > > > > > > > > To the best of my knowledge,dry dates represents > > > combination > > > > of > > > > > > > Mars + Saturn. As per traditional astrology,this > combination > > > is > > > > > > > responsible for accidents/operations. > > > > > > > > I personally think Roop chand Joshi ji must have told > > > > > did't > > > > > > write > > > > > > > in the book ) to a few of his visitors/friends or some > > > > > lalkitabist > > > > > > > must have experimented ( keeping respresentation of dry > dates > > > > in > > > > > > > mind ) with keeping dry dates in vehicle and it proved > to be > > > > > > > effective against accidents/mishaps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i would like to share one incident with all of you.on > > > hearing > > > > > > about > > > > > > > this remedy/suggestion , i kept 3 pieces of dry dates in > my > > > > > > scooter's > > > > > > > dicky in 1996.on that very day traffic policeman caught > me for > > > > > not > > > > > > > wearing the helmet...immidieately i threw the dry dates > out > > > and > > > > > got > > > > > > > escaped from challan ....he left me by giving a warning > > > > only..no > > > > > > > bribe even ! since that day i have never kept dry dates > in my > > > > any > > > > > > of > > > > > > > vehicles and no accidents/mishaps also ( By the Grace of > > > God ). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that incident gave me a thought that this can't be > taken as > > > a > > > > > > > general remedy for everybody but for people with specific > > > > > > > astrological combination only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurujans kindly comment ! > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev k Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > bhooshanpriya <bhooshanpriya> > > > > > > > > Sunday, August 15, 2004 5:48 pm > > > > > > > > [lalkitab] chhuare in a car - the reasons > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear experts, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A question had been asked , some time ago , and still > > > > > > unanswered > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > to why dry dates [ chhuare ] should be kept in a car ? > > > Its > > > > > > > > > astrological reasons? Would any of the experts answer > > > that > > > > > > please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Dear Priya Ji Thanks for your reply.u took precious time to write mail. IMHO, as far as learning of lalkitab is concerned, we must stick to lalkitab only.as far as helping a needy is concerned, there is no harm consulting other systems also. I don't treat any knowledge as `achhoot' Be in touch ! Rajeev K Khattar - bhooshanpriya <bhooshanpriya <lalkitab > Wednesday, August 18, 2004 10:29 AM [lalkitab] Re: Is Knowledge ' achhoot ' ? > > Dear Khattar saheb, > > I respect your views, but I am afraid can't agree with you. Lets not > insulate a system. In my opinion various `paddhatis' are > complimentary to each other and don't work at cross purposes. But > this could be a matter for separate academic discussion. > > I formulated a few questions based on my knowledge of Vedic system , > along with the names of the planets , hoping that some of you would > add a few more based on your familiarity with Lal Kitab system . > > Incidentally , Mr Mudit too draws a few questions from the vedic > system and if he mentions the planets along with the questions , as I > did , you would yourself recognize those questions which are out of > the Lal Kitab system. I see no harm when Mr Mudit does it. As a > matter of fact I support his approach of enriching the system with > the available knowledge. > > Lets not treat knowledge as `achhoot' > > With regards, > > Priya > > > > > lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > wrote: > > Dear Priya Ji > > when u r in rome, do as romans do. You are in lalkitab forum and > trying to > > see horoscope from vedic system !!.You will not gain lalkitab's > knowledge by > > checking horoscope from vedic point of view.Kindly go through > previous > > messages,seniors have written not to mix the two systems..never. > > open lalkitab or arun samhita and then start checking each n every > planet > > from that book..then ask the questions. > > wishing you good luck...always > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > - > > bhooshanpriya <bhooshanpriya> > > <lalkitab > > > Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:42 AM > > [lalkitab] Re: DIY... sure , lets give it a try > > > > > > > > > > correction, > > > > > > Ooooops , my bad, > > > moon: should read 'didn't have a smooth education' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > <bhooshanpriya> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Rakesh, > > > > > > > > Sure, I'd love to join you. I am not quite familiar with the Lal > > > > Kitab , still a beginner,but I am not bad at Vedic astrology. > Shall > > > > we begin with the verification questions ? In vedic system such > > > > questions are asked only if the 'lagna' is either a borderline > > > case , > > > > or the 'lagna' is not known at all. But as I see here , the > > > questions > > > > are asked as a matter of routine. How do the answers influence > the > > > > analysis is never shared. > > > > > > > > However, I am framing a few questions based on my knowledge of > > > Vedic > > > > system. You could add a few based on your Lal Kitab experience , > > > and > > > > lets see what meal we make out of it. > > > > > > > > Verification questions for Harish , based on Vedic astrology > system: > > > > > > > > Sun : Are you the only son ? > > > > During this year , did you fight any election and lose ? > > > > Did some one you trusted , betray you this year? > > > > > > > > Moon: Has your education been ever disrupted ? Didn't have a > > > > education. > > > > > > > > Mars : Have you ever had the throat problem or problems of the > > > > stomach ? You might have sisters but no brother. Have > > > > your hair started thinning at the top of your head? > > > > > > > > Jupiter : Do you have any speech defect? Did either your father > > > > or grandfather suffer from asthma? > > > > > > > > Saturn : Do you live in a house situated at a blind alley? > > > > have you ever had any liver problem? Or did you > > > > ever have to undergo an operation? > > > > > > > > Rahu : The day you were born , was it a day when it rained? > > > > Were you born at your Nana's house? Or if born at > > > > your's , was either Nana or Nani present there? > > > > Did your father have some problem this year, problem > > > > of health or financial? Have you got a black 'til' > > > > on your face? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope to continue the exercise, > > > > > > > > with love, > > > > > > > > priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Priya Jee > > > > > > > > > > Want to try the DIY method? > > > > > > > > > > I am inviting you and anyone else who is interested to join > me in > > > > > analysing the details for the horoscope posted right now by > > > > > StudentIndia aka Harish. We can ask Khattar Sahib to be the > team > > > > > leader and guide us in practical application of the > methodology > > > for > > > > > fixing the ascendant. > > > > > > > > > > Needless to add we might end up making absolute fools of > > > ourselves > > > > but > > > > > hopefully Khattar sahib will stop us from doing that and > point us > > > in > > > > > the right direction. Agreed Rajeev jee? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > > > > <bhooshanpriya> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Khattar saheb and bhuwan, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for being so prompt and lucid.I am grateful for > > > both > > > > > of > > > > > > you being so helpful. Wish that Mudit ji and Lal Kitabee ji > too > > > > > would > > > > > > listen to my request of mentioning the name of the planets > when > > > > > > asking verification questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar > > > <lalkitab@v...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Bhuwan Ji > > > > > > > Thanks for your prompt contribution. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > bhuwanvashishtha <bhuwanvashishtha> > > > > > > > <lalkitab > > > > > > > > Monday, August 16, 2004 9:42 AM > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: chhuare in a car - the reasons > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Priya di, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding on to what respected Khattar jee has said : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A car , or for that matter any vehicle , is considered a > > > > > > `mushtariqa > > > > > > > object of Saturn and moon'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " lohe ki aisi machine jis par savari karke insaan ghore > ki > > > > tarah > > > > > > > chal sake , maslan motor laari, ya lohe ki safar ki cheez " > > > > > > page > > > > > > > 840, 1952 ed } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similar expression in Arun sanhita of 52 ed page 295. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if a vehicle is taken as a karak object of combined > > > Saturn > > > > + > > > > > > > moon , what it could result in. It is explained in these > > > lines: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " dono mushtaraqa mein andha ghora ya dariya mein > bahata > > > > > makan > > > > > > > hoga " when acting manda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not have to explain where a blind horse would lead to > > > and > > > > > > where > > > > > > > a floating house on a river would anchor at. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is further explained in the 1939 ed of Lal Kitab > arun > > > > > > sanhita > > > > > > > 39 ed page 312 } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " dono sanjha : kachhua , fata hua doodh , motor lari ya > lohe > > > > ki > > > > > > > safar ki cheez vagerah, ya deegar hathiyar hoga / jo > shani ya > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > ke apne apne oonche gharon mein bhi khud kundali wale par > > > maut > > > > ka > > > > > > > hamala ityadi hone ki ghatana hogi/ ...chandra shani > sanjha > > > > hone > > > > > > par > > > > > > > chandra ki maya { dhan daulat } shani ke syah rang ki > tarah > > > > syah > > > > > > munh > > > > > > > maya hogi yani chandi ka rupiya bhi har tarh se kala va > > > chhota > > > > > > > maloom hoga halaki khalis chandi ka hi { uchcha chandra > khana > > > > 2 } > > > > > > > kyon na ho / shani ka swayam bhi zahar mila hua hoga / > shani > > > ke > > > > > > makan > > > > > > > araam dene ki bajaya dukh ka nateeja honge " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The effect of this combination would be perceptible even > if > > > it > > > > > > might > > > > > > > occur in the houses of exaltation for either of the two > > > > planets. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > exaltation rasi of both these planets `vrash' and `tula' > are > > > > > > > associated with venus the karak planet of journeys on > land . > > > > > There > > > > > > > are three key words here ` maut ka hamala' , `syah munh > maya' > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > ` > > > > > > > dukh ka nateeja'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now quite a few upaya have been suggested in the book to > take > > > > > care > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the `manda' effects of this combination. " dono grahon ki > > > > vahami > > > > > > > mandi halat se bachav ke liye sooraj ka upaya madadgar > > > > > > hoga ....ghar > > > > > > > mein lohe ka tofu bara box hone ke waqt us mein chandi ki > > > thali > > > > > > mein > > > > > > > pani rakhe rahana mubarik jabki dono grah khana 5 mein na > > > hon > > > > > > varna > > > > > > > jab vah no 5 mein hon to mangal shanishchar mushtarqa ki > > > aashiya > > > > > us > > > > > > > safe mein rakhni mubarik hogi " { page 843 , ed 52} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keeping chhuare { mushtariqa aashiya of mars and Saturn } > is > > > > > > advised > > > > > > > only when this combination occurs in the 5th house , > > > otherwise > > > > > > > keeping river water in a silver container or `sooraj ka > > > upaya' > > > > is > > > > > > > suggested. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And it was also suggested to carry a pup in the car when > > > driving > > > > > it > > > > > > > home for the first time. The explanation is simple. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani + moon = ketu neech { masnui grah }, Therefore in > > > order > > > > > to > > > > > > > take care of this aspect it is advised that one should > carry a > > > > > pup > > > > > > > home. But the pup must be all black . " mande waqt do > range > > > > > > janwaron > > > > > > > ka matha syah kar den " . As a matter of fact quite a few > > > > people > > > > > > have > > > > > > > a toy pup kept in their cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope this explanation might help you understand the > logic > > > of > > > > > > this > > > > > > > Lal Kitab upaya. > > > > > > > With regards and naman to gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , lalkitab@v... wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear members > > > > > > > > To the best of my knowledge,dry dates represents > > > combination > > > > of > > > > > > > Mars + Saturn. As per traditional astrology,this > combination > > > is > > > > > > > responsible for accidents/operations. > > > > > > > > I personally think Roop chand Joshi ji must have told > > > > > did't > > > > > > write > > > > > > > in the book ) to a few of his visitors/friends or some > > > > > lalkitabist > > > > > > > must have experimented ( keeping respresentation of dry > dates > > > > in > > > > > > > mind ) with keeping dry dates in vehicle and it proved > to be > > > > > > > effective against accidents/mishaps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i would like to share one incident with all of you.on > > > hearing > > > > > > about > > > > > > > this remedy/suggestion , i kept 3 pieces of dry dates in > my > > > > > > scooter's > > > > > > > dicky in 1996.on that very day traffic policeman caught > me for > > > > > not > > > > > > > wearing the helmet...immidieately i threw the dry dates > out > > > and > > > > > got > > > > > > > escaped from challan ....he left me by giving a warning > > > > only..no > > > > > > > bribe even ! since that day i have never kept dry dates > in my > > > > any > > > > > > of > > > > > > > vehicles and no accidents/mishaps also ( By the Grace of > > > God ). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that incident gave me a thought that this can't be > taken as > > > a > > > > > > > general remedy for everybody but for people with specific > > > > > > > astrological combination only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurujans kindly comment ! > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev k Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > bhooshanpriya <bhooshanpriya> > > > > > > > > Sunday, August 15, 2004 5:48 pm > > > > > > > > [lalkitab] chhuare in a car - the reasons > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear experts, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A question had been asked , some time ago , and still > > > > > > unanswered > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > to why dry dates [ chhuare ] should be kept in a car ? > > > Its > > > > > > > > > astrological reasons? Would any of the experts answer > > > that > > > > > > please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 18, 2004 Report Share Posted August 18, 2004 Respected Priya di, Nobody here would ever consider Vedic system as untouchable. That is the mother source.But I hope you would agree that mixing two systems might create some confusion ,specially when suggesting upaya. Confirming Lagna will be all right by any method. Your effort was really creditable. Please keep contributing. You will soon get the hang of the Lal Kitab system too by carefully studying the analysis done by other gurujan. with regards and naman to all gurujan, bhuwan lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " <bhooshanpriya> wrote: > > Dear Khattar saheb, > > I respect your views, but I am afraid can't agree with you. Lets not > insulate a system. In my opinion various `paddhatis' are > complimentary to each other and don't work at cross purposes. But > this could be a matter for separate academic discussion. > > I formulated a few questions based on my knowledge of Vedic system , > along with the names of the planets , hoping that some of you would > add a few more based on your familiarity with Lal Kitab system . > > Incidentally , Mr Mudit too draws a few questions from the vedic > system and if he mentions the planets along with the questions , as I > did , you would yourself recognize those questions which are out of > the Lal Kitab system. I see no harm when Mr Mudit does it. As a > matter of fact I support his approach of enriching the system with > the available knowledge. > > Lets not treat knowledge as `achhoot' > > With regards, > > Priya > > > > > lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar <lalkitab@v...> > wrote: > > Dear Priya Ji > > when u r in rome, do as romans do. You are in lalkitab forum and > trying to > > see horoscope from vedic system !!.You will not gain lalkitab's > knowledge by > > checking horoscope from vedic point of view.Kindly go through > previous > > messages,seniors have written not to mix the two systems..never. > > open lalkitab or arun samhita and then start checking each n every > planet > > from that book..then ask the questions. > > wishing you good luck...always > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > - > > bhooshanpriya <bhooshanpriya> > > <lalkitab > > > Tuesday, August 17, 2004 10:42 AM > > [lalkitab] Re: DIY... sure , lets give it a try > > > > > > > > > > correction, > > > > > > Ooooops , my bad, > > > moon: should read 'didn't have a smooth education' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > <bhooshanpriya> > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Rakesh, > > > > > > > > Sure, I'd love to join you. I am not quite familiar with the Lal > > > > Kitab , still a beginner,but I am not bad at Vedic astrology. > Shall > > > > we begin with the verification questions ? In vedic system such > > > > questions are asked only if the 'lagna' is either a borderline > > > case , > > > > or the 'lagna' is not known at all. But as I see here , the > > > questions > > > > are asked as a matter of routine. How do the answers influence > the > > > > analysis is never shared. > > > > > > > > However, I am framing a few questions based on my knowledge of > > > Vedic > > > > system. You could add a few based on your Lal Kitab experience , > > > and > > > > lets see what meal we make out of it. > > > > > > > > Verification questions for Harish , based on Vedic astrology > system: > > > > > > > > Sun : Are you the only son ? > > > > During this year , did you fight any election and lose ? > > > > Did some one you trusted , betray you this year? > > > > > > > > Moon: Has your education been ever disrupted ? Didn't have a > > > > education. > > > > > > > > Mars : Have you ever had the throat problem or problems of the > > > > stomach ? You might have sisters but no brother. Have > > > > your hair started thinning at the top of your head? > > > > > > > > Jupiter : Do you have any speech defect? Did either your father > > > > or grandfather suffer from asthma? > > > > > > > > Saturn : Do you live in a house situated at a blind alley? > > > > have you ever had any liver problem? Or did you > > > > ever have to undergo an operation? > > > > > > > > Rahu : The day you were born , was it a day when it rained? > > > > Were you born at your Nana's house? Or if born at > > > > your's , was either Nana or Nani present there? > > > > Did your father have some problem this year, problem > > > > of health or financial? Have you got a black 'til' > > > > on your face? > > > > > > > > > > > > Hope to continue the exercise, > > > > > > > > with love, > > > > > > > > priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " rakeshsahgal " > <rakeshsahgal> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Priya Jee > > > > > > > > > > Want to try the DIY method? > > > > > > > > > > I am inviting you and anyone else who is interested to join > me in > > > > > analysing the details for the horoscope posted right now by > > > > > StudentIndia aka Harish. We can ask Khattar Sahib to be the > team > > > > > leader and guide us in practical application of the > methodology > > > for > > > > > fixing the ascendant. > > > > > > > > > > Needless to add we might end up making absolute fools of > > > ourselves > > > > but > > > > > hopefully Khattar sahib will stop us from doing that and > point us > > > in > > > > > the right direction. Agreed Rajeev jee? > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > R S > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , " bhooshanpriya " > > > > <bhooshanpriya> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Khattar saheb and bhuwan, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks a lot for being so prompt and lucid.I am grateful for > > > both > > > > > of > > > > > > you being so helpful. Wish that Mudit ji and Lal Kitabee ji > too > > > > > would > > > > > > listen to my request of mentioning the name of the planets > when > > > > > > asking verification questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , Rajeev K Khattar > > > <lalkitab@v...> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Bhuwan Ji > > > > > > > Thanks for your prompt contribution. > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Rajeev K Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > bhuwanvashishtha <bhuwanvashishtha> > > > > > > > <lalkitab > > > > > > > > Monday, August 16, 2004 9:42 AM > > > > > > > [lalkitab] Re: chhuare in a car - the reasons > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Respected Priya di, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adding on to what respected Khattar jee has said : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A car , or for that matter any vehicle , is considered a > > > > > > `mushtariqa > > > > > > > object of Saturn and moon'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " lohe ki aisi machine jis par savari karke insaan ghore > ki > > > > tarah > > > > > > > chal sake , maslan motor laari, ya lohe ki safar ki cheez " > > > > > > page > > > > > > > 840, 1952 ed } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similar expression in Arun sanhita of 52 ed page 295. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now if a vehicle is taken as a karak object of combined > > > Saturn > > > > + > > > > > > > moon , what it could result in. It is explained in these > > > lines: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " dono mushtaraqa mein andha ghora ya dariya mein > bahata > > > > > makan > > > > > > > hoga " when acting manda. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do not have to explain where a blind horse would lead to > > > and > > > > > > where > > > > > > > a floating house on a river would anchor at. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is further explained in the 1939 ed of Lal Kitab { > arun > > > > > > sanhita > > > > > > > 39 ed page 312 } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " dono sanjha : kachhua , fata hua doodh , motor lari ya > lohe > > > > ki > > > > > > > safar ki cheez vagerah, ya deegar hathiyar hoga / jo > shani ya > > > > > > chandra > > > > > > > ke apne apne oonche gharon mein bhi khud kundali wale par > > > maut > > > > ka > > > > > > > hamala ityadi hone ki ghatana hogi/ ...chandra shani > sanjha > > > > hone > > > > > > par > > > > > > > chandra ki maya { dhan daulat } shani ke syah rang ki > tarah > > > > syah > > > > > > munh > > > > > > > maya hogi yani chandi ka rupiya bhi har tarh se kala va > > > chhota > > > > > > > maloom hoga halaki khalis chandi ka hi { uchcha chandra > khana > > > > 2 } > > > > > > > kyon na ho / shani ka swayam bhi zahar mila hua hoga / > shani > > > ke > > > > > > makan > > > > > > > araam dene ki bajaya dukh ka nateeja honge " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The effect of this combination would be perceptible even > if > > > it > > > > > > might > > > > > > > occur in the houses of exaltation for either of the two > > > > planets. > > > > > > The > > > > > > > exaltation rasi of both these planets `vrash' and `tula' > are > > > > > > > associated with venus the karak planet of journeys on > land . > > > > > There > > > > > > > are three key words here ` maut ka hamala' , `syah munh > maya' > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > ` > > > > > > > dukh ka nateeja'. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now quite a few upaya have been suggested in the book to > take > > > > > care > > > > > > of > > > > > > > the `manda' effects of this combination. " dono grahon ki > > > > vahami > > > > > > > mandi halat se bachav ke liye sooraj ka upaya madadgar > > > > > > hoga ....ghar > > > > > > > mein lohe ka tofu bara box hone ke waqt us mein chandi ki > > > thali > > > > > > mein > > > > > > > pani rakhe rahana mubarik jabki dono grah khana 5 mein na > > > hon > > > > > > varna > > > > > > > jab vah no 5 mein hon to mangal shanishchar mushtarqa ki > > > aashiya > > > > > us > > > > > > > safe mein rakhni mubarik hogi " { page 843 , ed 52} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keeping chhuare { mushtariqa aashiya of mars and Saturn } > is > > > > > > advised > > > > > > > only when this combination occurs in the 5th house , > > > otherwise > > > > > > > keeping river water in a silver container or `sooraj ka > > > upaya' > > > > is > > > > > > > suggested. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And it was also suggested to carry a pup in the car when > > > driving > > > > > it > > > > > > > home for the first time. The explanation is simple. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shani + moon = ketu neech { masnui grah }, Therefore in > > > order > > > > > to > > > > > > > take care of this aspect it is advised that one should > carry a > > > > > pup > > > > > > > home. But the pup must be all black . " mande waqt do > range > > > > > > janwaron > > > > > > > ka matha syah kar den " . As a matter of fact quite a few > > > > people > > > > > > have > > > > > > > a toy pup kept in their cars. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope this explanation might help you understand the > logic > > > of > > > > > > this > > > > > > > Lal Kitab upaya. > > > > > > > With regards and naman to gurujan, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bhuwan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lalkitab , lalkitab@v... wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear members > > > > > > > > To the best of my knowledge,dry dates represents > > > combination > > > > of > > > > > > > Mars + Saturn. As per traditional astrology,this > combination > > > is > > > > > > > responsible for accidents/operations. > > > > > > > > I personally think Roop chand Joshi ji must have told > > > > > did't > > > > > > write > > > > > > > in the book ) to a few of his visitors/friends or some > > > > > lalkitabist > > > > > > > must have experimented ( keeping respresentation of dry > dates > > > > in > > > > > > > mind ) with keeping dry dates in vehicle and it proved > to be > > > > > > > effective against accidents/mishaps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i would like to share one incident with all of you.on > > > hearing > > > > > > about > > > > > > > this remedy/suggestion , i kept 3 pieces of dry dates in > my > > > > > > scooter's > > > > > > > dicky in 1996.on that very day traffic policeman caught > me for > > > > > not > > > > > > > wearing the helmet...immidieately i threw the dry dates > out > > > and > > > > > got > > > > > > > escaped from challan ....he left me by giving a warning > > > > only..no > > > > > > > bribe even ! since that day i have never kept dry dates > in my > > > > any > > > > > > of > > > > > > > vehicles and no accidents/mishaps also ( By the Grace of > > > God ). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that incident gave me a thought that this can't be > taken as > > > a > > > > > > > general remedy for everybody but for people with specific > > > > > > > astrological combination only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gurujans kindly comment ! > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rajeev k Khattar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > > > > bhooshanpriya <bhooshanpriya> > > > > > > > > Sunday, August 15, 2004 5:48 pm > > > > > > > > [lalkitab] chhuare in a car - the reasons > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear experts, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A question had been asked , some time ago , and still > > > > > > unanswered > > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > to why dry dates [ chhuare ] should be kept in a car ? > > > Its > > > > > > > > > astrological reasons? Would any of the experts answer > > > that > > > > > > please? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sincerely, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > priya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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