Guest guest Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Dear Gurujans 1. My father have a temple at home. A seperate room is provided for this temple. Many framed pictures of different size of devi devtas are placed here. All my famiy members used to pray here. There are many problems in their home. 2. I am living on rent at different place. I have two room set. I have placed few pictures, (pyramids, rudraksh, yantras in a box), religous books, ramayana etc. in the kitchen self. I am totally vegitarian but use piaj & lahsun etc in kitchen. I and my wife daily pray two times blowing desi ghee jyot in the kitchen. My question is that should we stop praying at home? Where the Tasweer's (framed pictures) should be disposed off. Can we pray at home without pictures of gods, goddess etc. (by blowing Jyot only) Is it sure that by removing temple from father's home or from my home, my parents, or I will not suffer negatively. Kindly give suggestions & solve my problem. beside this I had written many mails but i have not received any reply. Niraj Sharma D.O.B. 4.8.1969, 1.30 PM (Patiala) (now in Mohali) 98148 78203 for detail please also read (Reminder & reply to Mr. Kondal mail in your mail box) Thanking U & waiting for favourable reply for hon'able experts of lalkitab team. niraj sharma India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 Dear Niraj, The pictures of pyramids or yantras or rudrakh should not be the issue. In most cases, the yantra is generally for view by only you or the person, so keeping it in a box would be fine. If you are still unsure, then take them and place them in a red cloth and place them somewhere in a pious and respectful way in the home. Monitor results afterwards for benefit or not .... Any idols can be taken out of the home using Jal Parvah (placing respectfully into a river). Before telling your father to do anything about the temple in his home, you should have his horoscope checked as in some cases the problems he is having in his home may in fact be due to other reasons as well. Also the horoscopes of his family members... You should continue to pray at home, or for that matter anywhere you are for it is only God who can change our destiny or kismet. Keep the image of whoever you are praying to (Krishna, Mohammad, Guru Nanak, Jesus) in your mind, and ideally if you can concentrate and pray on the image of the jyot in your mind and heart that would be ideal. These are my humble suggestions. Regards, Iqbal NIRAJ SHARMA <nirajsharma1969 wrote: Dear Gurujans 1. My father have a temple at home. A seperate room is provided for this temple. Many framed pictures of different size of devi devtas are placed here. All my famiy members used to pray here. There are many problems in their home. 2. I am living on rent at different place. I have two room set. I have placed few pictures, (pyramids, rudraksh, yantras in a box), religous books, ramayana etc. in the kitchen self. I am totally vegitarian but use piaj & lahsun etc in kitchen. I and my wife daily pray two times blowing desi ghee jyot in the kitchen. My question is that should we stop praying at home? Where the Tasweer's (framed pictures) should be disposed off. Can we pray at home without pictures of gods, goddess etc. (by blowing Jyot only) Is it sure that by removing temple from father's home or from my home, my parents, or I will not suffer negatively. Kindly give suggestions & solve my problem. beside this I had written many mails but i have not received any reply. Niraj Sharma D.O.B. 4.8.1969, 1.30 PM (Patiala) (now in Mohali) 98148 78203 for detail please also read (Reminder & reply to Mr. Kondal mail in your mail box) Thanking U & waiting for favourable reply for hon'able experts of lalkitab team. niraj sharma India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Dear Friends, Pardon me for swimming against the tide here. The comments are based on my limited knowledge and so I would be grateful if some learned members correct me. In Hinduism, our concept of God is of a supreme being who has our best interests at heart, even when doing His sometimes pleasant, but mostly unpleasant duty of regulating the world in dispensing the " Karmon Ka Phal " . The above view does not portray the God as a vicious, vindictive being, out to punish us with a vengeance for the slightest of mistakes and indiscretions. As a logical corollary, it is also my firm belief that so long as we are not committing any indiscretions deliberately, He is more than eager to ignore our mistakes. The same may of course, not hold good for the deliberate actions. I had the privilege of reading a lengthy debate on this subject including an excellent presentation of views by Shri Kondal. Even though I do not agree with his views, the logical process and the breadth of coverage was illuminating. I have found Shri Kondal's views useful as a compilation of actions that we may be doing unwittingly when maintaining a home temple. I think that due to limited availability of the orginal Lal Kitab, the earlier translators must have either misunderstood the material about the temples or taken it out of context to create this myth that Lal Kitab prohibits the temple at home. Just my views. Ashutosh --- Eligible Guy <punjabilovebug wrote: > Dear Niraj, > > The pictures of pyramids or yantras or rudrakh > should not be the issue. In most cases, the yantra > is generally for view by only you or the person, so > keeping it in a box would be fine. If you are still > unsure, then take them and place them in a red cloth > and place them somewhere in a pious and respectful > way in the home. Monitor results afterwards for > benefit or not .... > > Any idols can be taken out of the home using Jal > Parvah (placing respectfully into a river). Before > telling your father to do anything about the temple > in his home, you should have his horoscope checked > as in some cases the problems he is having in his > home may in fact be due to other reasons as well. > Also the horoscopes of his family members... > > You should continue to pray at home, or for that > matter anywhere you are for it is only God who can > change our destiny or kismet. Keep the image of > whoever you are praying to (Krishna, Mohammad, Guru > Nanak, Jesus) in your mind, and ideally if you can > concentrate and pray on the image of the jyot in > your mind and heart that would be ideal. > > These are my humble suggestions. > > Regards, > Iqbal > > > > > NIRAJ SHARMA <nirajsharma1969 wrote: > Dear Gurujans > > 1. My father have a temple at home. A seperate > room is provided for this temple. Many framed > pictures of different size of devi devtas are placed > here. All my famiy members used to pray here. > There are many problems in their home. > > 2. I am living on rent at different place. I have > two room set. I have placed few pictures, > (pyramids, rudraksh, yantras in a box), religous > books, ramayana etc. in the kitchen self. I am > totally vegitarian but use piaj & lahsun etc in > kitchen. I and my wife daily pray two times blowing > desi ghee jyot in the kitchen. > My question is that should we stop praying at > home? Where the Tasweer's (framed pictures) should > be disposed off. Can we pray at home without > pictures of gods, goddess etc. (by blowing Jyot > only) > Is it sure that by removing temple from father's > home or from my home, my parents, or I will not > suffer negatively. > > Kindly give suggestions & solve my problem. > beside this I had written many mails but i have not > received any reply. > > Niraj Sharma > D.O.B. 4.8.1969, 1.30 PM (Patiala) (now in Mohali) > > 98148 78203 > > for detail please also read (Reminder & reply to Mr. > Kondal mail in your mail box) > > Thanking U & waiting for favourable reply for > hon'able experts of lalkitab team. > > niraj sharma > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner > online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Dear Friends, I'm kind of surprised at the views expressed here on maintaining a temple at home. Lal kitab does not prohibit from maintaining a temple at home. However it has certain limitation on putting large statues of god and goddesses at home, because if the same are installed at home, they cannot be maintained in the manner they should be and like they are maintained in a official temple. Therefore it says that statues above a certain height should not be used, however small statues and pictures of deities are not prohibited at all. Regards, Navneet Ashutosh <ashutosh_gangal wrote: Dear Friends,Pardon me for swimming against the tide here. Thecomments are based on my limited knowledge and so Iwould be grateful if some learned members correct me.In Hinduism, our concept of God is of a supreme beingwho has our best interests at heart, even when doingHis sometimes pleasant, but mostly unpleasant duty ofregulating the world in dispensing the "Karmon KaPhal". The above view does not portray the God as avicious, vindictive being, out to punish us with avengeance for the slightest of mistakes andindiscretions. As a logical corollary, it is also my firm belief thatso long as we are not committing any indiscretionsdeliberately, He is more than eager to ignore ourmistakes. The same may of course, not hold good forthe deliberate actions.I had the privilege of reading a lengthy debate onthis subject including an excellent presentation ofviews by Shri Kondal. Even though I do not agree withhis views, the logical process and the breadth ofcoverage was illuminating. I have found Shri Kondal'sviews useful as a compilation of actions that we maybe doing unwittingly when maintaining a home temple.I think that due to limited availability of theorginal Lal Kitab, the earlier translators must haveeither misunderstood the material about the temples ortaken it out of context to create this myth that LalKitab prohibits the temple at home.Just my views.Ashutosh--- Eligible Guy <punjabilovebug wrote:> Dear Niraj,> > The pictures of pyramids or yantras or rudrakh> should not be the issue. In most cases, the yantra> is generally for view by only you or the person, so> keeping it in a box would be fine. If you are still> unsure, then take them and place them in a red cloth> and place them somewhere in a pious and respectful> way in the home. Monitor results afterwards for> benefit or not ....> > Any idols can be taken out of the home using Jal> Parvah (placing respectfully into a river). Before> telling your father to do anything about the temple> in his home, you should have his horoscope checked> as in some cases the problems he is having in his> home may in fact be due to other reasons as well.> Also the horoscopes of his family members...> > You should continue to pray at home, or for that> matter anywhere you are for it is only God who can> change our destiny or kismet. Keep the image of> whoever you are praying to (Krishna, Mohammad, Guru> Nanak, Jesus) in your mind, and ideally if you can> concentrate and pray on the image of the jyot in> your mind and heart that would be ideal.> > These are my humble suggestions.> > Regards,> Iqbal> > > > > NIRAJ SHARMA <nirajsharma1969 wrote:> Dear Gurujans> > 1. My father have a temple at home. A seperate> room is provided for this temple. Many framed> pictures of different size of devi devtas are placed> here. All my famiy members used to pray here. > There are many problems in their home. > > 2. I am living on rent at different place. I have> two room set. I have placed few pictures,> (pyramids, rudraksh, yantras in a box), religous> books, ramayana etc. in the kitchen self. I am> totally vegitarian but use piaj & lahsun etc in> kitchen. I and my wife daily pray two times blowing> desi ghee jyot in the kitchen.> My question is that should we stop praying at> home? Where the Tasweer's (framed pictures) should> be disposed off. Can we pray at home without> pictures of gods, goddess etc. (by blowing Jyot> only) > Is it sure that by removing temple from father's> home or from my home, my parents, or I will not> suffer negatively.> > Kindly give suggestions & solve my problem.> beside this I had written many mails but i have not> received any reply.> > Niraj Sharma> D.O.B. 4.8.1969, 1.30 PM (Patiala) (now in Mohali)> > 98148 78203> > for detail please also read (Reminder & reply to Mr.> Kondal mail in your mail box)> > Thanking U & waiting for favourable reply for> hon'able experts of lalkitab team.> > niraj sharma> > India Matrimony: Find your life partner> online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Dear Navneet; I agreed with you. umesh lalkitab , Astrology <Vedic Astrologyhoroscopes> wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > > > I'm kind of surprised at the views expressed here on maintaining a temple at home. Lal kitab does not prohibit from maintaining a temple at home. However it has certain limitation on putting large statues of god and goddesses at home, because if the same are installed at home, they cannot be maintained in the manner they should be and like they are maintained in a official temple. Therefore it says that statues above a certain height should not be used, however small statues and pictures of deities are not prohibited at all. > > > > Regards, > > > > Navneet > Ashutosh <ashutosh_gangal> wrote:Dear Friends, > > Pardon me for swimming against the tide here. The > comments are based on my limited knowledge and so I > would be grateful if some learned members correct me. > > In Hinduism, our concept of God is of a supreme being > who has our best interests at heart, even when doing > His sometimes pleasant, but mostly unpleasant duty of > regulating the world in dispensing the " Karmon Ka > Phal " . The above view does not portray the God as a > vicious, vindictive being, out to punish us with a > vengeance for the slightest of mistakes and > indiscretions. > > As a logical corollary, it is also my firm belief that > so long as we are not committing any indiscretions > deliberately, He is more than eager to ignore our > mistakes. The same may of course, not hold good for > the deliberate actions. > > I had the privilege of reading a lengthy debate on > this subject including an excellent presentation of > views by Shri Kondal. Even though I do not agree with > his views, the logical process and the breadth of > coverage was illuminating. I have found Shri Kondal's > views useful as a compilation of actions that we may > be doing unwittingly when maintaining a home temple. > > I think that due to limited availability of the > orginal Lal Kitab, the earlier translators must have > either misunderstood the material about the temples or > taken it out of context to create this myth that Lal > Kitab prohibits the temple at home. > > Just my views. > > Ashutosh > > --- Eligible Guy <punjabilovebug> wrote: > > > Dear Niraj, > > > > The pictures of pyramids or yantras or rudrakh > > should not be the issue. In most cases, the yantra > > is generally for view by only you or the person, so > > keeping it in a box would be fine. If you are still > > unsure, then take them and place them in a red cloth > > and place them somewhere in a pious and respectful > > way in the home. Monitor results afterwards for > > benefit or not .... > > > > Any idols can be taken out of the home using Jal > > Parvah (placing respectfully into a river). Before > > telling your father to do anything about the temple > > in his home, you should have his horoscope checked > > as in some cases the problems he is having in his > > home may in fact be due to other reasons as well. > > Also the horoscopes of his family members... > > > > You should continue to pray at home, or for that > > matter anywhere you are for it is only God who can > > change our destiny or kismet. Keep the image of > > whoever you are praying to (Krishna, Mohammad, Guru > > Nanak, Jesus) in your mind, and ideally if you can > > concentrate and pray on the image of the jyot in > > your mind and heart that would be ideal. > > > > These are my humble suggestions. > > > > Regards, > > Iqbal > > > > > > > > > > NIRAJ SHARMA <nirajsharma1969> wrote: > > Dear Gurujans > > > > 1. My father have a temple at home. A seperate > > room is provided for this temple. Many framed > > pictures of different size of devi devtas are placed > > here. All my famiy members used to pray here. > > There are many problems in their home. > > > > 2. I am living on rent at different place. I have > > two room set. I have placed few pictures, > > (pyramids, rudraksh, yantras in a box), religous > > books, ramayana etc. in the kitchen self. I am > > totally vegitarian but use piaj & lahsun etc in > > kitchen. I and my wife daily pray two times blowing > > desi ghee jyot in the kitchen. > > My question is that should we stop praying at > > home? Where the Tasweer's (framed pictures) should > > be disposed off. Can we pray at home without > > pictures of gods, goddess etc. (by blowing Jyot > > only) > > Is it sure that by removing temple from father's > > home or from my home, my parents, or I will not > > suffer negatively. > > > > Kindly give suggestions & solve my problem. > > beside this I had written many mails but i have not > > received any reply. > > > > Niraj Sharma > > D.O.B. 4.8.1969, 1.30 PM (Patiala) (now in Mohali) > > > > 98148 78203 > > > > for detail please also read (Reminder & reply to Mr. > > Kondal mail in your mail box) > > > > Thanking U & waiting for favourable reply for > > hon'able experts of lalkitab team. > > > > niraj sharma > > > > India Matrimony: Find your life partner > > online. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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