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John, re copper coins, i needed a copper coin and hit the same dilema - I have assumed with your name being John you may be in the west, and copper coins are easy to have in India. Yesterday I went onto ebay auction site and have picked up a copper coin that has been sun punched - it has an indentation of rays of the sun - and it was only £1. I am very happy with this fine.

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Sunday, December 19, 2004 2:17 AM

[lalkitab] Copper Coins

Dear Guruji'sAccording to Lal Kitab Remidies, throwing of copper coin is one of the remadies.However, in todays world, to get copper coins is very difficult. My question is, instead of copper coins, whether copper peices or copper washers (round in side with a hole in the middle) can be used instead of copper coins?Kindly request all guruji's advise.Kind Regards,John.

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Dear Guruji's

 

According to Lal Kitab Remidies, throwing of copper coin is one of

the remadies.

 

However, in todays world, to get copper coins is very difficult.

 

My question is, instead of copper coins, whether copper peices or

copper washers (round in side with a hole in the middle) can be used

instead of copper coins?

 

Kindly request all guruji's advise.

 

Kind Regards,

John.

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Dear John,

Yes You can use copper washer against copper coin.

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lalkitab , " john32825 " <john32825> wrote:

>

> Dear Guruji's

>

> According to Lal Kitab Remidies, throwing of copper coin is one of

> the remadies.

>

> However, in todays world, to get copper coins is very difficult.

>

> My question is, instead of copper coins, whether copper peices or

> copper washers (round in side with a hole in the middle) can be used

> instead of copper coins?

>

> Kindly request all guruji's advise.

>

> Kind Regards,

> John.

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John,

 

Copper pieces should be whole, not with any holes in the middle. Are you in the West? Where do u live? Home Depot or any major hardware retailer will have plumbing gaskets or hinges, which can be cut up into equal pieces of solid copper, and then thrown into running water, depending on the upaye you are doing.

 

However, if you are doing an upaye such as tying a copper piece around your neck, then a washer or something with a hole in it is fine.

 

That is what I recommend - Also, FYI coins in the west are actually steel based inside, even though the pennies may look to be copper.

 

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Iqbaljohn32825 <john32825 wrote:

Dear Guruji'sAccording to Lal Kitab Remidies, throwing of copper coin is one of the remadies.However, in todays world, to get copper coins is very difficult. My question is, instead of copper coins, whether copper peices or copper washers (round in side with a hole in the middle) can be used instead of copper coins?Kindly request all guruji's advise.Kind Regards,John.

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Sorabh ji; everything comng under round circumference bears the imprint of budh. copper coins were/are used to symbolise SUN because of copper metal and the sovereign seal of the KING. u can find more details at the introductory part of SUN to see the connection between GOL DAIRA budh and sun.mrsorabhsharma <mrsorabhsharma wrote: Dear Sirs and Respected Varun Ji I have read somewhere on the net that generally old copper coins which are not of use (not in current currency) should be disposed of and not

kept in the house as this can be a sign of a malefic mercury. What is the reason for this? What has mercury got to do with copper coins?And Would this conflict with the upaya of wearing a copper coin around the neck if that coin around the neck is not of current currency? I will look forward to your answer. Thank you in advance.Kindest RegardsSorabhKulbir Bains

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dear sir, these r intelligent questions; but r from the basics of lk. there is no harm in keeping old cu coins at home; they do not represent Budh.Though generally round objects r usually related to budh; but it is not always so. Only old cu coins with a hole i.e. 'chhed wala paisa' should not be kept at home, it may represent budh. there is no relation of copper 'coin' in the remedy of budh 11. even a simple piece of cu with a hole can be worn around the neck. sincerely, kiranjeet

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Dear Kiranjit Kumar ji

 

You have said " there is no relation of copper 'coin' in the remedy

of budh 11. "

 

That is not true.

 

1952 urdu ed page # 576 { or page 198 of Arun sanhita} for mandi halat of

mercury in the 11th house

says, " ab budh ka grah ullu ka pattha hoga, gale mein tambe ka

paisa madadgar hoga " ...incidently there is a cute sketch of an

owlet on the side.

 

Therefore the copper paisa is the remedy of choice for mercury in

the 11th house.

 

Secondly you have said " even a simple piece of cu with a hole can

be worn around the neck. "

 

Once again I disagree.

 

Not only that a simple piece of copper can not be used in this case,

no hole should be done in the piece itself.

 

The same is true about the copper paisa also, no hole should be done

in the paisa; instead a small hook should be attached to the coin

for the thread to pass through.

 

Regards,

 

Chandra Prakash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, kiranjit kumar

<kapatjal wrote:

>

> dear sir,

> these r intelligent questions; but r from the basics of lk.

> there is no harm in keeping old cu coins at home; they do not

represent Budh.Though generally round objects r usually related to

budh; but it is not always so.

> Only old cu coins with a hole i.e. 'chhed wala paisa' should

not be kept at home, it may represent budh.

> there is no relation of copper 'coin' in the remedy of budh 11.

> even a simple piece of cu with a hole can be worn around the

neck.

> sincerely,

> kiranjeet

>

>

>

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dear chandra prakash ji, your attention is brought to lk 1952 edition page 576; where under mandi halat budh 11; it is given that 'mandi halat ke waqt sooraj ki madad(gale mein taanbe ka paisa ya taanbe ka chhota sa tukra) mubarak hoga' it is what makes lk difficult to understand as all matters pertaining to one planet r not given at one place. Bold headings of the subject matter mean sometimes entirely different from what is written in the narration. how one wears it, these r different understandings of different practitioners as par their experiences; hole or kundi and even the thread part to wear it;there will be no single opinion. i shall be looking foreward to more experienced gurujans and practiotioners of lk if they can guide us to a single method of wearing the cu coin or cu piece around the neck as remedy for budh 11. regards and best wishes; kiranjeet

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Dear Kiranjit Kumar ji,

 

Yes I am aware of the line you have quoted. But that line is for the

mercury of the 9th house when placed in the 11th in varsh phal

kundali.{ section #3 }.

 

As for how to wear a copper coin my view is that no hole be done in

the coin itself.

 

The copper coin can be worn in a silver chain { moon }or a gold

chain { jupiter } or a silk thread { moon }

 

The copper coin can not be worn in a cotton thread { venus }

 

With regards,

 

Chandra Prakash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, kiranjit kumar

<kapatjal wrote:

>

> dear chandra prakash ji,

> your attention is brought to lk 1952 edition page 576; where

under mandi halat budh 11; it is given that

> 'mandi halat ke waqt sooraj ki madad(gale mein taanbe ka paisa

ya taanbe ka chhota sa tukra) mubarak hoga'

> it is what makes lk difficult to understand as all matters

pertaining to one planet r not given at one place. Bold headings of

the subject matter mean sometimes entirely different from what is

written in the narration.

> how one wears it, these r different understandings of different

practitioners as par their experiences; hole or kundi and even the

thread part to wear it;there will be no single opinion. i shall be

looking foreward to more experienced gurujans and practiotioners of

lk if they can guide us to a single method of wearing the cu coin

or cu piece around the neck as remedy for budh 11.

> regards and best wishes;

> kiranjeet

>

>

>

> Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone

who knows.

> Answers - Check it out.

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thanks chandra prakash ji. it is a pleasure to be a member of a forum where the seniors have a thorouh knowledge of lk. regards, kiranjeet i shall be looking for more

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dear sir, a few questions : 1. as mr. saurab had asked;can naya paisa coins be used; if yes,then should it be bigger one (i.e. ghore wala) or the smaller one may also be used. If it cannot be used,the reasons thereof. 2. cu coins r getting scarce;if not available, what would be the remedy for budh 11. 3. cu is for the sun; what is specific about minted cu that only it should be used for the remedy. please do write. with best wishes; sincerely, kiranjeet

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Dear Kiranjit Kumar ji,

 

[ 1 ] Any round coin made of copper can be used. It can be of any

size so long as it is made of copper and is round. Whether the coin

is old or new, or is of Indian currency or any foreign currency

should not make any difference.

[ 2 ] Yes you are right that the copper coins are becoming very rare

and those which are available are not of entirely copper either.

They are minted out of other metals mixed with copper.They have a

copper coating in most cases.

Therefore it is better that we suggest round copper pieces instead

of copper coins. The round copper pieces would at least be entirely

of copper and represent the sun in at least two of the three

characteristics of the sun if not all the three.

[ 3 ] The most significant thing a coin contains is the Royal

insignia , the seal of royal authority. Therefore a minted coin

represents the Sun more truely than any thing else. A minted coin

symbolises the Sun in three ways [ a ]it is made of shining copper

the karak metal of the Sun [ b ] it is round , the shape of the sun

[ c ] and most importantly the 'rajya adhikar' [royal authority] the

significant 'gun' [characteristic] of the sun.

 

With regards,

 

Chandra Prakash

 

 

 

 

 

, kiranjit kumar

<kapatjal wrote:

>

> dear sir,

> a few questions :

> 1. as mr. saurab had asked;can naya paisa coins be used; if

yes,then should it be bigger one (i.e. ghore wala) or the smaller

one may also be used. If it cannot be used,the reasons thereof.

> 2. cu coins r getting scarce;if not available, what would be

the remedy for budh 11.

> 3. cu is for the sun; what is specific about minted cu that

only it should be used for the remedy.

> please do write.

> with best wishes;

> sincerely,

> kiranjeet

>

>

>

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Thanks a lot chandra prakash ji for the beautiful explanation. regards and best wishes; kiranjeet

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