Guest guest Posted April 4, 2005 Report Share Posted April 4, 2005 Dear fellows With my experience in astrology and occult sciences and my various trysts with destiny, I can tell you the following golden words for sure: 1. What the god has written in your destiny or fate has to happen. 2. If in this birth, by your own efforts, if you earn merit (punya) the negative things originally written for you would not happen or their negativity would be reduced to neglible or marginal level. 3. Similary, if by your own efforts and meditation invoke the grace of god by japa or tapa, you would get things which are not written for you originally. 4. If you indulge in bad deeds, cause harm to so many people and earn sin (paap) the negative things originally written for you would be increased manifold and good things written for you originally would never happen. 5. If you use tantrik items or do powerful remedies as per lalkitab or some other tested and proven remedies, they would help greatly in reducing the negative thingsand also increasing the positive things which are originally written in your fate. So be aware that it is in your own hands to change the destiny. I seek comments from my learned friends on this. ArjunRitu Lalit <ritulalit wrote: Well I do think that the rationale behind remedies is part psychological and part giving back to mother earth thanks for the bounties recieved. If I am told that my Saturn is giving me problems I would understand it as a warning to simplify my life, tie up all the loose ends and leave nothing to chance since Saturn causes obstacles. To reinforce that I would perform the remedies ( giving back ?) and also pray so that I recieve blessings of the heavens to help me through the problems.It is just a personal viewpoint ...........Ritulalkitab , "Anshev B Bhardwejj" <anshevb> wrote:> > > Rationale behind Astrological remedies> > Dear Forum,> > If we ponder deeply upon this subject, we may realize that many (in > fact most) of us have various challenges in life...as written in > Guru Granth Sahib: 'Nanak dukhiya sab sansaar". We seek the help of > astrological sciences to better our life. The true value of > astrology is not so much in being able to predict the course of > future events, but be able to help in improving one's given lot with > the medium of astrological remedies. Otherwise, the services of > astrology appear to be very limited.> > I wanted to start a discussion on this topic. This, I believe is a > fundamental question.. What is hapiness and pain. What is the role > of astrology from an objective point of view for an average human > life. Why/How can astrology help us in improving things. There are > many views regarding this subject. Some believe that every human > being is born with a certain amount of "fortune" and an adjustment > in the timing of events can be done with the help of remedies but > certain things (happiness or suffering) that one is destined to > undergo cannot fundamentally be changed. They believe that with > remedies, the good karmaphala can be cashed quickly and negative > Karmaphala can be postponed until a later date. The question > arises.. is this good since one would be left with so much negative > Karmaphala to deal with later on in the life or lives...Even Lal > Kitab says: "Duniyabi hisab kitab hai.. Khuda ki khudai nahi"...> > Others seem to believe that with help of wisdom and techniques > (remedies) provided by astrology, one can improve one's life beyond > mere adjustment in credit and debit in one's account. > > Let us hear from those who have some experience on this subject or > those who have deeper wisdom and can give valuable insights on this > complex subject. Please quote from scriptures to back your > arguments. This would help substantiate your inferences.> > Best wishes,> Anshev B Bhardwejj Better first dates. More second dates. Personals Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2005 Report Share Posted April 5, 2005 Very well put. But please dont club tantrik things and lal kitab upayas in one sentence ....... Lal Kitab is NOT tantrik. Ritu lalkitab , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > Dear fellows > > With my experience in astrology and occult sciences and my various trysts with destiny, I can tell you the following golden words for sure: > > 1. What the god has written in your destiny or fate has to happen. > 2. If in this birth, by your own efforts, if you earn merit (punya) the negative things originally written for you would not happen or their negativity would be reduced to neglible or marginal level. > 3. Similary, if by your own efforts and meditation invoke the grace of god by japa or tapa, you would get things which are not written for you originally. > 4. If you indulge in bad deeds, cause harm to so many people and earn sin (paap) the negative things originally written for you would be increased manifold and good things written for you originally would never happen. > 5. If you use tantrik items or do powerful remedies as per lalkitab or some other tested and proven remedies, they would help greatly in reducing the negative thingsand also increasing the positive things which are originally written in your fate. > So be aware that it is in your own hands to change the destiny. > I seek comments from my learned friends on this. > Arjun > > Ritu Lalit <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > Well I do think that the rationale behind remedies is part > psychological and part giving back to mother earth thanks for the > bounties recieved. If I am told that my Saturn is giving me > problems I would understand it as a warning to simplify my life, tie > up all the loose ends and leave nothing to chance since Saturn > causes obstacles. To reinforce that I would perform the remedies ( > giving back ?) and also pray so that I recieve blessings of the > heavens to help me through the problems. > > It is just a personal viewpoint ........... > > Ritu > > > lalkitab , " Anshev B Bhardwejj " <anshevb> > wrote: > > > > > > Rationale behind Astrological remedies > > > > Dear Forum, > > > > If we ponder deeply upon this subject, we may realize that many > (in > > fact most) of us have various challenges in life...as written in > > Guru Granth Sahib: 'Nanak dukhiya sab sansaar " . We seek the help > of > > astrological sciences to better our life. The true value of > > astrology is not so much in being able to predict the course of > > future events, but be able to help in improving one's given lot > with > > the medium of astrological remedies. Otherwise, the services of > > astrology appear to be very limited. > > > > I wanted to start a discussion on this topic. This, I believe is a > > fundamental question.. What is hapiness and pain. What is the role > > of astrology from an objective point of view for an average human > > life. Why/How can astrology help us in improving things. There are > > many views regarding this subject. Some believe that every human > > being is born with a certain amount of " fortune " and an adjustment > > in the timing of events can be done with the help of remedies but > > certain things (happiness or suffering) that one is destined to > > undergo cannot fundamentally be changed. They believe that with > > remedies, the good karmaphala can be cashed quickly and negative > > Karmaphala can be postponed until a later date. The question > > arises.. is this good since one would be left with so much > negative > > Karmaphala to deal with later on in the life or lives...Even Lal > > Kitab says: " Duniyabi hisab kitab hai.. Khuda ki khudai nahi " ... > > > > Others seem to believe that with help of wisdom and techniques > > (remedies) provided by astrology, one can improve one's life > beyond > > mere adjustment in credit and debit in one's account. > > > > Let us hear from those who have some experience on this subject or > > those who have deeper wisdom and can give valuable insights on > this > > complex subject. Please quote from scriptures to back your > > arguments. This would help substantiate your inferences. > > > > Best wishes, > > Anshev B Bhardwejj > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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