Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Respected Lalkitabeeji Though lalkitab does not reckon signs, if Sun is placed in his own sign of leo or in Aries and is in the 12th house where venus is also located, then venus is like an ordinary flower wilting away. In the ten other signs if sun-venus is in 12th hosue, to put it mildly, we can say not so happy marital life or problems in love, affairs and marriage. One member suggested that sun-venus combination should be treated like a fire of passion which is positive for Generation Next but older generation (like me) treat it as negative. But there are exceptions also. I have seen few people with sun-venus in their charts, having failed in several love affairs or even 2 marriages getting broken/divorced, they have lost interest in marriage itself and have lived for the rest of their life in celibacy/single status. Unfortunately, I have more knowledge in vedic and comparatively less in lalkitab, so several times I mixed both which may kindly be seen in the right spirit. I would request you to kindly keep on adding value to our postings, which would be a good education for all of us. Thanks and regards Arjun lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: Respected Arjun pandit jiSunflower i mean suryamukhi is a flower which always face to face to sun with no harms.So it is wrong that it is always bad in 12th house.there should be analyzed the position of ketu & 2nd house after that we can say that venus with sun in 12th is flower effected by the influence of sun or it is a sunflower itself with more beauty.With regardsLalkitabeelalkitab , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote:> Dear friend> Yes, this was discussed several times earlier in the forum.> Sun is like fire and Venus is like flower. So Venus is affected in conjoining with Sun. > With best wishes> Arjun> > virenjagdev <virenjagdev> wrote:> Dear Sir,> I have a query on the position of Venus with Mercury in 12th house.> I am told that a person having this combination will not have a happy > married life .> > Is the same true > > > regds...Viren > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 19, 2005 Report Share Posted May 19, 2005 Respected Arjun ji I mean to say that sun & venus both have their own individual effects in 12th house sun & venus both collectivelly r Guru but KHALI HAWAI Now decieson depends upon the 2nd house & ketu.As example if sun & Venus will in 12th & saturn will be in 2nd & ketu will be in 11th then ketu will be axalted.It means the birth of son will be late or after girls, sometimes it converts LAWALDI BUT THAT IS DEFFERNET SITUATION.exalted sukra will give a sign at the face of wife.It means there will be a spot of wound at the face & wife will suffer deseases.If marriage will be in the age of 25 then venus will be effected by sun & married life will be desturbed due to the health of spouse or due to nonfirtility.Now guru will not give his good expressions even it may be in a good situation & it will attack at ketu or will create a suffocation between husband & wife.But if ketu will in 12th then story will be changed due to grahan of sun.So we must analyze the remedy also. now another situation :- if budh will be in 12th there with sun & venus. It is the worst condition of venus.Now budh is rmediable itself.But arjun ji astrology of lalkitab takes the advantges of shakki positions of planets only.So everywhere we cant suggest remedies.only the position of ketu & remedy of guru & ketu can help in the situation of sun & venus in 12th but after the confirmation of exalted venus only.if ketu will be in 12th then it is suryamukhi Mitti " sukra " se insaan banaa aur aag " sun " se devtaa isiliye dosti na ho saki to kisi ek ko winner banaane ke liye uska saathi chahiye duniyaadari ke liye sukra ko bachaana jaroori hogaa isiliye ketu ki madad leni hogi ya yun kaha jaye ki ketu jo ki mande guru ka shikaar ho saktaa hai usakaa ilaaz karnaa jaroori hai kyonki aisi halat main guru bad hi hotaa hai.aur uska ilaaz kartey hue hi sukra ko nek main tabdil karne ki koshish hi safaa de sakti hai.mere vichaar se 11th ketu ho to 43 days tak mandir main mooli " Reddishes " denaa jaroori hogaa.Uske baad hi anyaa remedies per chintan karnaa hogaa. Ab ye swaal bhi stand ker rahaa hai ki 11th main ketu ka upay kyon? iskaa jawab khud b khud lalkitab read kartey hue mil jayegaa.Whole book is a system & all formulaas r tied with each other. With regards lalkitabee With regards lalkitabee lalkitab , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > Respected Lalkitabeeji > > Though lalkitab does not reckon signs, if Sun is placed in his own sign of leo or in Aries and is in the 12th house where venus is also located, then venus is like an ordinary flower wilting away. In the ten other signs if sun-venus is in 12th hosue, to put it mildly, we can say not so happy marital life or problems in love, affairs and marriage. One member suggested that sun-venus combination should be treated like a fire of passion which is positive for Generation Next but older generation (like me) treat it as negative. But there are exceptions also. I have seen few people with sun-venus in their charts, having failed in several love affairs or even 2 marriages getting broken/divorced, they have lost interest in marriage itself and have lived for the rest of their life in celibacy/single status. > > Unfortunately, I have more knowledge in vedic and comparatively less in lalkitab, so several times I mixed both which may kindly be seen in the right spirit. > > I would request you to kindly keep on adding value to our postings, which would be a good education for all of us. > > Thanks and regards > > Arjun > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee> wrote: > Respected Arjun pandit ji > Sunflower i mean suryamukhi is a flower which always face to face to > sun with no harms.So it is wrong that it is always bad in 12th > house.there should be analyzed the position of ketu & 2nd house after > that we can say that venus with sun in 12th is flower effected by > the influence of sun or it is a sunflower itself with more beauty. > With regards > Lalkitabee > lalkitab , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> > wrote: > > Dear friend > > Yes, this was discussed several times earlier in the forum. > > Sun is like fire and Venus is like flower. So Venus is affected in > conjoining with Sun. > > With best wishes > > Arjun > > > > virenjagdev <virenjagdev> wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > I have a query on the position of Venus with Mercury in 12th house. > > I am told that a person having this combination will not have a > happy > > married life . > > > > Is the same true > > > > > > regds...Viren > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Lalkitabee jee, Great job done and very well deserved . I was looking for such reply. In most of the cases , people do remedy of sambhut moong filled in tabey keg gagar covered and throw in running water if we have sun,venus in 12th. This is mostly at the time of marriage or after marriage for happy married life. As far as ketu is concerned if jupitor is trong enough and both the partners horoscope has well positioned jupitor , then there is a possibility of son before daughter. Anyway , I don’t have wast knowledge like you. Again you desrve the best. Regards Mukesh anand lalkitab [lalkitab ] On Behalf Of lalkitabee Thursday, May 19, 2005 5:54 PM lalkitab [lalkitab] Re: Sunflower and Venus Respected Arjun ji I mean to say that sun & venus both have their own individual effects in 12th house sun & venus both collectivelly r Guru but KHALI HAWAI Now decieson depends upon the 2nd house & ketu.As example if sun & Venus will in 12th & saturn will be in 2nd & ketu will be in 11th then ketu will be axalted.It means the birth of son will be late or after girls, sometimes it converts LAWALDI BUT THAT IS DEFFERNET SITUATION.exalted sukra will give a sign at the face of wife.It means there will be a spot of wound at the face & wife will suffer deseases.If marriage will be in the age of 25 then venus will be effected by sun & married life will be desturbed due to the health of spouse or due to nonfirtility.Now guru will not give his good expressions even it may be in a good situation & it will attack at ketu or will create a suffocation between husband & wife.But if ketu will in 12th then story will be changed due to grahan of sun.So we must analyze the remedy also. now another situation :- if budh will be in 12th there with sun & venus. It is the worst condition of venus.Now budh is rmediable itself.But arjun ji astrology of lalkitab takes the advantges of shakki positions of planets only.So everywhere we cant suggest remedies.only the position of ketu & remedy of guru & ketu can help in the situation of sun & venus in 12th but after the confirmation of exalted venus only.if ketu will be in 12th then it is suryamukhi Mitti " sukra " se insaan banaa aur aag " sun " se devtaa isiliye dosti na ho saki to kisi ek ko winner banaane ke liye uska saathi chahiye duniyaadari ke liye sukra ko bachaana jaroori hogaa isiliye ketu ki madad leni hogi ya yun kaha jaye ki ketu jo ki mande guru ka shikaar ho saktaa hai usakaa ilaaz karnaa jaroori hai kyonki aisi halat main guru bad hi hotaa hai.aur uska ilaaz kartey hue hi sukra ko nek main tabdil karne ki koshish hi safaa de sakti hai.mere vichaar se 11th ketu ho to 43 days tak mandir main mooli " Reddishes " denaa jaroori hogaa.Uske baad hi anyaa remedies per chintan karnaa hogaa. Ab ye swaal bhi stand ker rahaa hai ki 11th main ketu ka upay kyon? iskaa jawab khud b khud lalkitab read kartey hue mil jayegaa.Whole book is a system & all formulaas r tied with each other. With regards lalkitabee With regards lalkitabee lalkitab , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> wrote: > Respected Lalkitabeeji > > Though lalkitab does not reckon signs, if Sun is placed in his own sign of leo or in Aries and is in the 12th house where venus is also located, then venus is like an ordinary flower wilting away. In the ten other signs if sun-venus is in 12th hosue, to put it mildly, we can say not so happy marital life or problems in love, affairs and marriage. One member suggested that sun-venus combination should be treated like a fire of passion which is positive for Generation Next but older generation (like me) treat it as negative. But there are exceptions also. I have seen few people with sun-venus in their charts, having failed in several love affairs or even 2 marriages getting broken/divorced, they have lost interest in marriage itself and have lived for the rest of their life in celibacy/single status. > > Unfortunately, I have more knowledge in vedic and comparatively less in lalkitab, so several times I mixed both which may kindly be seen in the right spirit. > > I would request you to kindly keep on adding value to our postings, which would be a good education for all of us. > > Thanks and regards > > Arjun > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee> wrote: > Respected Arjun pandit ji > Sunflower i mean suryamukhi is a flower which always face to face to > sun with no harms.So it is wrong that it is always bad in 12th > house.there should be analyzed the position of ketu & 2nd house after > that we can say that venus with sun in 12th is flower effected by > the influence of sun or it is a sunflower itself with more beauty. > With regards > Lalkitabee > lalkitab , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> > wrote: > > Dear friend > > Yes, this was discussed several times earlier in the forum. > > Sun is like fire and Venus is like flower. So Venus is affected in > conjoining with Sun. > > With best wishes > > Arjun > > > > virenjagdev <virenjagdev> wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > I have a query on the position of Venus with Mercury in 12th house. > > I am told that a person having this combination will not have a > happy > > married life . > > > > Is the same true > > > > > > regds...Viren > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Respected Mukesh ji thanx for praise.But i do not deserve the best.Becoz i have collected some leaves of this great knowledge.fruits r also hidden but in deep.So im not best.nly trying to become better. With regards lalkitabee lalkitab , " Anand, Mukesh " <MAnand@t...> wrote: > Lalkitabee jee, > > Great job done and very well deserved . I was > looking for such reply. In most of the cases , people do remedy of > sambhut moong filled in tabey keg gagar covered and throw in running > water if we have sun,venus in 12th. This is mostly at the time of > marriage or after marriage for happy married life. As far as ketu is > concerned if jupitor is trong enough and both the partners horoscope has > well positioned jupitor , then there is a possibility of son before > daughter. Anyway , I don't have wast knowledge like you. Again you > desrve the best. > > > > Regards > > Mukesh anand > > > > > > ________________________________ > > lalkitab [lalkitab ] On > Behalf Of lalkitabee > Thursday, May 19, 2005 5:54 PM > lalkitab > [lalkitab] Re: Sunflower and Venus > > > > Respected Arjun ji > I mean to say that sun & venus both have their own individual effects > in 12th house sun & venus both collectivelly r Guru but KHALI HAWAI > Now decieson depends upon the 2nd house & ketu.As example if sun & > Venus will in 12th & saturn will be in 2nd & ketu will be in 11th > then ketu will be axalted.It means the birth of son will be late or > after girls, sometimes it converts LAWALDI BUT THAT IS DEFFERNET > SITUATION.exalted sukra will give a sign at the face of wife.It means > there will be a spot of wound at the face & wife will suffer > deseases.If marriage will be in the age of 25 then venus will be > effected by sun & married life will be desturbed due to the health of > spouse or due to nonfirtility.Now guru will not give his good > expressions even it may be in a good situation & it will attack at > ketu or will create a suffocation between husband & wife.But if ketu > will in 12th then story will be changed due to grahan of sun.So we > must analyze the remedy also. > now another situation :- if budh will be in 12th there with sun & > venus. It is the worst condition of venus.Now budh is rmediable > itself.But arjun ji astrology of lalkitab takes the advantges of > shakki positions of planets only.So everywhere we cant suggest > remedies.only the position of ketu & remedy of guru & ketu can help > in the situation of sun & venus in 12th but after the confirmation of > exalted venus only.if ketu will be in 12th then it is suryamukhi > Mitti " sukra " se insaan banaa aur aag " sun " se devtaa isiliye dosti > na ho saki to kisi ek ko winner banaane ke liye uska saathi chahiye > duniyaadari ke liye sukra ko bachaana jaroori hogaa isiliye ketu ki > madad leni hogi ya yun kaha jaye ki ketu jo ki mande guru ka shikaar > ho saktaa hai usakaa ilaaz karnaa jaroori hai kyonki aisi halat main > guru bad hi hotaa hai.aur uska ilaaz kartey hue hi sukra ko nek main > tabdil karne ki koshish hi safaa de sakti hai.mere vichaar se 11th > ketu ho to 43 days tak mandir main mooli " Reddishes " denaa jaroori > hogaa.Uske baad hi anyaa remedies per chintan karnaa hogaa. Ab ye swaal > bhi stand ker rahaa hai ki 11th main ketu ka upay kyon? iskaa jawab khud > b khud lalkitab read kartey hue mil jayegaa.Whole book is a system & all > formulaas r tied with each other. > With regards > lalkitabee > With regards > lalkitabee > lalkitab , arjun pandit <panditarjun2004> > wrote: > > Respected Lalkitabeeji > > > > Though lalkitab does not reckon signs, if Sun is placed in his own > sign of leo or in Aries and is in the 12th house where venus is also > located, then venus is like an ordinary flower wilting away. In the > ten other signs if sun-venus is in 12th hosue, to put it mildly, we > can say not so happy marital life or problems in love, affairs and > marriage. One member suggested that sun-venus combination should be > treated like a fire of passion which is positive for Generation Next > but older generation (like me) treat it as negative. But there are > exceptions also. I have seen few people with sun-venus in their > charts, having failed in several love affairs or even 2 marriages > getting broken/divorced, they have lost interest in marriage itself > and have lived for the rest of their life in celibacy/single status. > > > > Unfortunately, I have more knowledge in vedic and comparatively > less in lalkitab, so several times I mixed both which may kindly be > seen in the right spirit. > > > > I would request you to kindly keep on adding value to our postings, > which would be a good education for all of us. > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > Arjun > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee> wrote: > > Respected Arjun pandit ji > > Sunflower i mean suryamukhi is a flower which always face to face > to > > sun with no harms.So it is wrong that it is always bad in 12th > > house.there should be analyzed the position of ketu & 2nd house > after > > that we can say that venus with sun in 12th is flower effected by > > the influence of sun or it is a sunflower itself with more beauty. > > With regards > > Lalkitabee > > lalkitab , arjun pandit > <panditarjun2004> > > wrote: > > > Dear friend > > > Yes, this was discussed several times earlier in the forum. > > > Sun is like fire and Venus is like flower. So Venus is affected > in > > conjoining with Sun. > > > With best wishes > > > Arjun > > > > > > virenjagdev <virenjagdev> wrote: > > > Dear Sir, > > > I have a query on the position of Venus with Mercury in 12th > house. > > > I am told that a person having this combination will not have a > > happy > > > married life . > > > > > > Is the same true > > > > > > > > > regds...Viren > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Dear Lalkitabee, How do you visualise, silver-ash and honey in this context at pre-sun-rise saturday. --- lalkitabee <lalkitabee wrote: > Respected Mukesh ji > thanx for praise.But i do not deserve the best.Becoz > i have collected > some leaves of this great knowledge.fruits r also > hidden but in > deep.So im not best.nly trying to become better. > With regards > lalkitabee > > > lalkitab , " Anand, Mukesh " > <MAnand@t...> wrote: > > Lalkitabee jee, > > > > Great job done and very > well deserved . I > was > > looking for such reply. In most of the cases , > people do remedy of > > sambhut moong filled in tabey keg gagar covered > and throw in running > > water if we have sun,venus in 12th. This is mostly > at the time of > > marriage or after marriage for happy married life. > As far as ketu is > > concerned if jupitor is trong enough and both the > partners > horoscope has > > well positioned jupitor , then there is a > possibility of son before > > daughter. Anyway , I don't have wast knowledge > like you. Again you > > desrve the best. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Mukesh anand > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > lalkitab > [lalkitab ] On > > Behalf Of lalkitabee > > Thursday, May 19, 2005 5:54 PM > > lalkitab > > [lalkitab] Re: Sunflower and Venus > > > > > > > > Respected Arjun ji > > I mean to say that sun & venus both have their own > individual > effects > > in 12th house sun & venus both collectivelly r > Guru but KHALI HAWAI > > Now decieson depends upon the 2nd house & ketu.As > example if sun & > > Venus will in 12th & saturn will be in 2nd & ketu > will be in 11th > > then ketu will be axalted.It means the birth of > son will be late or > > after girls, sometimes it converts LAWALDI BUT > THAT IS DEFFERNET > > SITUATION.exalted sukra will give a sign at the > face of wife.It > means > > there will be a spot of wound at the face & wife > will suffer > > deseases.If marriage will be in the age of 25 then > venus will be > > effected by sun & married life will be desturbed > due to the health > of > > spouse or due to nonfirtility.Now guru will not > give his good > > expressions even it may be in a good situation & > it will attack at > > ketu or will create a suffocation between husband > & wife.But if > ketu > > will in 12th then story will be changed due to > grahan of sun.So we > > must analyze the remedy also. > > now another situation :- if budh will be in 12th > there with sun & > > venus. It is the worst condition of venus.Now budh > is rmediable > > itself.But arjun ji astrology of lalkitab takes > the advantges of > > shakki positions of planets only.So everywhere we > cant suggest > > remedies.only the position of ketu & remedy of > guru & ketu can help > > in the situation of sun & venus in 12th but after > the confirmation > of > > exalted venus only.if ketu will be in 12th then it > is suryamukhi > > Mitti " sukra " se insaan banaa aur aag " sun " se > devtaa isiliye dosti > > na ho saki to kisi ek ko winner banaane ke liye > uska saathi chahiye > > duniyaadari ke liye sukra ko bachaana jaroori > hogaa isiliye ketu ki > > madad leni hogi ya yun kaha jaye ki ketu jo ki > mande guru ka > shikaar > > ho saktaa hai usakaa ilaaz karnaa jaroori hai > kyonki aisi halat > main > > guru bad hi hotaa hai.aur uska ilaaz kartey hue hi > sukra ko nek > main > > tabdil karne ki koshish hi safaa de sakti hai.mere > vichaar se 11th > > ketu ho to 43 days tak mandir main mooli > " Reddishes " denaa jaroori > > hogaa.Uske baad hi anyaa remedies per chintan > karnaa hogaa. Ab ye > swaal > > bhi stand ker rahaa hai ki 11th main ketu ka upay > kyon? iskaa jawab > khud > > b khud lalkitab read kartey hue mil jayegaa.Whole > book is a system > & all > > formulaas r tied with each other. > > With regards > > lalkitabee > > With regards > > lalkitabee > > lalkitab , arjun pandit > <panditarjun2004> > > wrote: > > > Respected Lalkitabeeji > > > > > > Though lalkitab does not reckon signs, if Sun is > placed in his > own > > sign of leo or in Aries and is in the 12th house > where venus is > also > > located, then venus is like an ordinary flower > wilting away. In > the > > ten other signs if sun-venus is in 12th hosue, to > put it mildly, we > > can say not so happy marital life or problems in > love, affairs and > > marriage. One member suggested that sun-venus > combination should > be > > treated like a fire of passion which is positive > for Generation > Next > > but older generation (like me) treat it as > negative. But there are > > exceptions also. I have seen few people with > sun-venus in their > > charts, having failed in several love affairs or > even 2 marriages > > getting broken/divorced, they have lost interest > in marriage itself > > and have lived for the rest of their life in > celibacy/single status. > > > > > > Unfortunately, I have more knowledge in vedic > and comparatively > > less in lalkitab, so several times I mixed both > which may kindly be > > seen in the right spirit. > > > > > > I would request you to kindly keep on adding > value to our > postings, > > which would be a good education for all of us. > > > > > > Thanks and regards > > > > > > Arjun > > > > > > lalkitabee <lalkitabee> wrote: > > > Respected Arjun pandit ji > > > Sunflower i mean suryamukhi is a flower which > always face to face > > to > > > sun with no harms.So it is wrong that it is > always bad in 12th > > > house.there should be analyzed the position of > ketu & 2nd house > > after > > > that we can say that venus with sun in 12th is > flower effected > by > > > the influence of sun or it is a sunflower itself > with === message truncated === Mail Mobile Take Mail with you! 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