Guest guest Posted May 22, 2005 Report Share Posted May 22, 2005 Dear Nahata ji, Thanks for your appreciation and welcome. Sure I would explain masnui grah some time when there is an occasion. In the meanwhile You could read Pt. Krishna Ashants 'prashthbhoomi aur vyakhya'both for masnui grah and 6 forms of upaya. Of these six , one uses masnui grah concept. With regards, Priya lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> wrote: > Dear Priya ji, > Please accept my whole-hearted appreciations. > Here I would like to request you to throw some light on *masnui graha and > their applications *for benefit of all*.* > Thanks, > Best regards > Jai > > On 5/22/05, bhooshan priya <bhooshanpriya> wrote: > > > > Dear Anjali, > > > > Irrespective of what has been said here in the Group , your astrologer is > > ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Yes, the child has 'arishta' arising out of the sun + rahu > > combination. > > > > In astrology a child's horoscope should not be studied for many matters; > > but there is one area where it is not only recommended , it is mandatory > > to study the horoscope of a child for 'arishta'. Arishta means , illness and > > any other unfortunate happening. An astrologer must cast the horoscope and > > study it for 'arishta' and suggest 'samaadhaan' or upaya. If that were not > > the case , instead of casting a horoscope at the time of birth people would > > just note the time and the date and get it cast only after the child is 12 > > or 13. > > > > Now explaining why your astrologer is right. I am quoting original > > excerpts from Lal Kitab { 1952 ed} along with page numbers from Arun Sanhita > > for every one to verify. > > > > Rahu : > > > > [ 1 ] Rahu is placed in the 9th > > > > {a } " rahu khana 9 , 12 mein neech kaha gaya hai " p223 > > > > { b } " rahu ab 9guni mandi takat ka malik hoga jo Chandra ko bhi madhyam > > kar > > > > dega " p235 > > > > Sun + Rahu : > > > > [ 1 ] " garhan ka manda samay us samay jor par hoga jab dono kundali ke 9 > > ya > > > > 12 mein baithe hon " p288 > > > > This combination is most vicious when either in the 9th or in the 12th . > > > > [ 2 ] " grahan ravi ki kismet hoti , varna umra chhoti marta ho " p 287 . > > > > Either his kismet will be eclipsed or he will die young. " 45 saal tak > > umra shaqqi " the fear for life will be up to the age of 45 , after that > > there will be no danger for life. > > > > [ 3 ] " chahe surya ko grahan lagata ho, magar garmee se aur bhi adhik > > hani > > > > karne wala hilta hua hathi hoga " p 224 > > > > Even though the rahu eclipses the sun but it becomes a violent elephant > > capable of greater damage under the heat of the sun. > > > > [ 4 ] " surya ki drishti ya sath se rahu ka prabhav na sirf baithe hue > > ghar par > > > > manda hoga balki saath lagata ghar bhi barbad hoga " p 224 > > > > This combination would not only damage the house it is in , would also > > damage the adjacent house. This means both the 9th house of 'bhagya' and > > the 10th house of ' profession, yash ,father' would be damaged. > > > > [ 5 ] " surya ,rahu ke samay yadi shukra aur budh saath ho to surya > > graham ka > > > > asar bura nahi hoga " p287 > > > > This is a 'parihar' clause . 'parihar' means escape from the results . > > This combination of the sun and the rahu will be ineffective if the venus > > and mercury are together in the kundali. Venus and mercury together form > > masnui SUN . That means if there is another masnui {artificial} sun in the > > kundali , the natal sun will get strengthened. > > > > I am afraid , there is no masnui sun in the kundali and hence no escape > > from the results. > > > > [ 6 ] " agar mangal kisi tarah se bhi rahu ko dabata na ho ya khud hi > > mangal > > > > manda ho …. to uttam sehat aur lambi ayu dono shaqqi hongi " p 288 > > > > This is another 'parihar' clause. If the mars is not ashubh and controls > > the rahu , the combination would not effect; on the contrary if the mangal > > itself is ashubh and incapable of controlling the rahu , then both the > > health and longevity will be doubtful. > > > > Now the matter to be resolved is whether mangal is shubh in this kundali > > or ashubh. In the kundali along with Rahu three planets are arranged at: > > > > Mercury : 8d 13m > > > > Mars : 10d 53m > > > > Sun : 22d 16m > > > > The mercury and Mars are just 2d 40m apart , close enough to be > > considered as together. The sun and the mercury are far apart some 15 > > degrees apart. Therefore because of mars and mercury being together , mars > > would be considered as ashubh. And the surya + rahu combination becomes > > operative. > > > > Now discussing the same phenomena through Vedic astrology. The Vedic > > 'parihar' clause says : > > > > " agar Chandra , mangal aur brahaspati shubh ho to Rahu janya dosh ka > > > > parihar ho jata hai " . > > > > If the moon , mars and Jupiter are strong the dosh resulting because of > > rahu is eliminated. In this kundali moon is in scorpio hence neech , Mars is > > in cancer hence neech , and Jupiter is placed in its enemy rasi hence weak. > > There is no help from either of these three planets. > > > > Therefore there is no 'parihar' or respite. > > > > In conclusion , the surya + rahu dosh is there. To do the remedy or not > > is entirely up to you. If I were in your place I wouldn't have taken > > chances. > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Priya > > > > ------------------------------ > > * Messenger*<http://uk.rd./mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.me ssenger.>- Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friends today! > > *Download Messenger Now*<http://uk.rd./mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenge r./download/index.html> > > ------------------------------ > > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 23, 2005 Report Share Posted May 23, 2005 Dear Priya ji, I am familiar with concept of masnui graha but wanted to have your idea. Actually I have observed something important regarding them and their application. Soon I will be placing my observation before all the friends here. Best regards Jai On 5/22/05, bhooshanpriya <bhooshanpriya wrote: Dear Nahata ji,Thanks for your appreciation and welcome. Sure I would explain masnuigrah some time when there is an occasion. In the meanwhile You could read Pt. Krishna Ashants 'prashthbhoomi aur vyakhya'both for masnuigrah and 6 forms of upaya. Of these six , one uses masnui grahconcept.With regards,Priya lalkitab , Jai Nahata <jaynahata@g...> wrote:> Dear Priya ji,> Please accept my whole-hearted appreciations.> Here I would like to request you to throw some light on *masnui graha and> their applications *for benefit of all*.*> Thanks,> Best regards> Jai>> On 5/22/05, bhooshan priya <bhooshanpriya> wrote:> >> > Dear Anjali, > >> > Irrespective of what has been said here in the Group , yourastrologer is> > ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Yes, the child has 'arishta' arising out of thesun + rahu> > combination. > >> > In astrology a child's horoscope should not be studied for manymatters;> > but there is one area where it is not only recommended , it ismandatory> > to study the horoscope of a child for 'arishta'. Arishta means , illness and> > any other unfortunate happening. An astrologer must cast thehoroscope and> > study it for 'arishta' and suggest 'samaadhaan' or upaya. If thatwere not> > the case , instead of casting a horoscope at the time of birth people would> > just note the time and the date and get it cast only after thechild is 12> > or 13.> >> > Now explaining why your astrologer is right. I am quotingoriginal > > excerpts from Lal Kitab { 1952 ed} along with page numbers fromArun Sanhita> > for every one to verify.> >> > Rahu :> >> > [ 1 ] Rahu is placed in the 9th > >> > {a } " rahu khana 9 , 12 mein neech kaha gaya hai " p223> >> > { b } " rahu ab 9guni mandi takat ka malik hoga jo Chandra kobhi madhyam> > kar > >> > dega " p235> >> > Sun + Rahu :> >> > [ 1 ] " garhan ka manda samay us samay jor par hoga jab donokundali ke 9> > ya> > > > 12 mein baithe hon " p288> >> > This combination is most vicious when either in the 9th or inthe 12th .> >> > [ 2 ] " grahan ravi ki kismet hoti , varna umra chhoti marta ho " p 287 .> >> > Either his kismet will be eclipsed or he will die young. " 45saal tak> > umra shaqqi " the fear for life will be up to the age of 45 ,after that> > there will be no danger for life. > >> > [ 3 ] " chahe surya ko grahan lagata ho, magar garmee se aur bhiadhik> > hani> >> > karne wala hilta hua hathi hoga " p 224> >> > Even though the rahu eclipses the sun but it becomes a violent elephant> > capable of greater damage under the heat of the sun.> >> > [ 4 ] " surya ki drishti ya sath se rahu ka prabhav na sirfbaithe hue> > ghar par> > > > manda hoga balki saath lagata ghar bhi barbad hoga " p 224> >> > This combination would not only damage the house it is in ,would also> > damage the adjacent house. This means both the 9th house of 'bhagya' and> > the 10th house of ' profession, yash ,father' would be damaged.> >> > [ 5 ] " surya ,rahu ke samay yadi shukra aur budh saath ho tosurya> > graham ka > >> > asar bura nahi hoga " p287> >> > This is a 'parihar' clause . 'parihar' means escape from theresults .> > This combination of the sun and the rahu will be ineffective if the venus> > and mercury are together in the kundali. Venus and mercurytogether form> > masnui SUN . That means if there is another masnui {artificial}sun in the> > kundali , the natal sun will get strengthened. > >> > I am afraid , there is no masnui sun in the kundali and hence noescape> > from the results.> >> > [ 6 ] " agar mangal kisi tarah se bhi rahu ko dabata na ho ya khud hi> > mangal> >> > manda ho …. to uttam sehat aur lambi ayu dono shaqqi hongi " p 288> >> > This is another 'parihar' clause. If the mars is not ashubh and controls> > the rahu , the combination would not effect; on the contrary ifthe mangal> > itself is ashubh and incapable of controlling the rahu , thenboth the> > health and longevity will be doubtful. > >> > Now the matter to be resolved is whether mangal is shubh in thiskundali> > or ashubh. In the kundali along with Rahu three planets arearranged at:> >> > Mercury : 8d 13m > >> > Mars : 10d 53m> >> > Sun : 22d 16m> >> > The mercury and Mars are just 2d 40m apart , close enough to be> > considered as together. The sun and the mercury are far apart some 15> > degrees apart. Therefore because of mars and mercury beingtogether , mars> > would be considered as ashubh. And the surya + rahu combinationbecomes> > operative.> > > > Now discussing the same phenomena through Vedic astrology. TheVedic> > 'parihar' clause says :> >> > " agar Chandra , mangal aur brahaspati shubh ho to Rahu janya dosh ka> >> > parihar ho jata hai " .> >> > If the moon , mars and Jupiter are strong the dosh resultingbecause of> > rahu is eliminated. In this kundali moon is in scorpio hence neech , Mars is> > in cancer hence neech , and Jupiter is placed in its enemy rasihence weak.> > There is no help from either of these three planets.> >> > Therefore there is no 'parihar' or respite. > >> > In conclusion , the surya + rahu dosh is there. To do the remedyor not> > is entirely up to you. If I were in your place I wouldn't havetaken> > chances.> > > > Sincerely,> >> > Priya> >> > ------------------------------> > *Messenger*< http://uk.rd./mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenger.>- Communicate instantly... " Ping " your friendstoday!> > *Download Messenger Now*<http://uk.rd./mail/tagline_messenger/*http://uk.messenger./download/index.html >> > ------------------------------> > * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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