Vedic Astrology Sani and Sun in 8th House

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Namaskar Guruji. Sorry I made a mistake by calling Mars a radical planet for Meena Lagna. It is not. But still Mars is the lord of 9th. in the 2nd. so shud bring good luck only. Moreover another point of view I have is that we shud not judge Mars just by the position alone. If in the present case Mars is hemmed in between Mercury and Jupiter then it cannot cause any harm. It will only do good or remain neutral since the two benefics will keep it in check. We therefore have to consider the longitudes of Mars; Mercury; Jupiter and Moon before predicting.

Pl advise on this matter also Guruji.

Pranaams.

Ramani

 

 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 Ramani wrote : >Dear Kothariji, > >Thks for sharing your experience. My analysis;not as a qualified astrologer, but based on my reading of various books is as follows:- > >1. For Meena Lagna;Sani in Libra is exalted. Venus also in Libra occupies own house with a friend. Venus is the Kaaraka for Marriage. The presence of Shani though a maelific will not interefere in the marriage bec he is exalted. Venus as the Karaka in own house gives him the power to ward off attacks by malefics. >2. Does not matter if Jupiter is in 6th house in Leo which is a friendly house. Will help him overcome his enimies. With Moon present there think we shud look at it strengthening the Lagna Lord rather than as a malefic (waning moon is malefic). This shud bestow long life to the person.Moreover the moon also has some portfolio of giving children and Jupiter is putra karaka. So the ill effect of Ketu in the 3rd has been countered by the Guru Moon combination which shud have given the person good children. >3.For Meena Lagna Mars is the radical planet. It shud not be considered as a malefic other than his own house or in 6/8 positions. Mercury is exalted in his own house which shud be able to overcome the ill effects of malefic Sun. According to me the 7th. house shud be treated as having two benefics and one malefic. The two good planets together will be able to overcome the ill effect of sun. I may even dare to predict that the wife shud hv brought the person luck and wealth. She will speak her mind and likely to be assertive. > >Guruji, please guide me if my analysis is correct. Your guidance will help us improve our knowledge on the subject. > >I do hope many more people participate in these discussions with their views. This will expand the understanding of the subject. Moreover I feel the conditions in modern times may be different from what it was hundreds of years ago. We may learn how to allot more portfolios to planets to explain the happenings in presnt day. > >Awaiting your valuable guidance Guruji. > >Paranaams. >Ramani > > >On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 mangal kothari wrote : > >Dear Ramaniji, > > > >I would like to answer your question by different horoscope, which i have come across few years back > > > >DOB: 13-0ct-1955 > >TOB : 17-25 > >POB : Udaipur, Rajasthan > > > >Problem in horoscope (similar to what u reported) > > > >Lagna : Meena > > > >8th house : Sani and Venus (Venus being 7th lord is in his own rashi with Sani) > >7th house : Mars, Sun, Mercury (two malefici planet) > >6th house : Jupiter, Moon (Lord of lagna is in 6th house) > >3th house : Ketu > > > >Moreover, lord of 5th house is in also 6th house. Only good thing in horoscope is that lord of 9th house is in kendra (means in 7th house). In spite of this, the native has no major problem in marriage life and as per our discussion his is haapy with his marriage life (may be with little up and downs). D-9 is also no impressive. I guess why he is got away with the problem may be Mercury is exaclted in 7th house in spite of 7th lord in 8th house. > > > >Now coming back to ur question, although two malefic planets are there in 8th house, 7th lord in 9th house and Good jupiter and Moon will drive her marriage life ok i feel. Please do follow Guruji advice for good results []. > > > >Good luck for her marriage life > > > >Regards, > >Mangal > >--- On Tue, 2/12/08, Ramani wrote: > > > > Ramani > >Re: Re: [saatwik.com] Vedic Astrology Sani and Sun in 8th House > >Vedic Astrology > >Cc: "Gopal Krishan Doda" > >Tuesday, 2 December, 2008, 11:28 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Date of Birth of the subject is Nov 10th. 1984; Place of birth Mumbai; Time of birth 4.07pm > > > > > >On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 Gopal Krishan Doda wrote : > > >Dear Ramani, > > > > > >Please post birth particulars of the native to discuss. There are number of > > >other parameters to say anything about marriage. > > > > > >Gopal Krishan Doda > > >Admin > > >Saatwik.com > > > > > >On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Ramani wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Swamiji, > > > > I have seen the horoscope of a girl who is 24yrs old. > > > > Her Lagna is in Meena Rasi with Sani and Sun placed in Tula > > > > rasi. Sani here is exalted while Sun is debilitated. Venus alongwith Guru is > > > > posited in Dhanur Rasi in the 10th House- in Kendra. While discussing with > > > > some astrologers in Mumbai; Chennai and Kerala they said the Sani+Sun > > > > combination in 8th House will lead to loss of her husband. I pointed > > > > out that two malefic planets in 8th house first leads to Balarishta. > > > > Moreover with Venus joining Guru in a Kendra this bad effect is nullified. > > > > Since the girl has survived the balarishta I argued that the malefic effect > > > > of the sani sun combination is not there. Moreover Moon is in Taurus > > > > and the 8th. house from there is Dhanur rasi where 2 benefic planets are > > > > posited so the bad effect of sani sun combi is not confirmed. Also I > > > > indicated that for Meena Lagna if Guru is in Dhanur Rasi it gives rise to > > > > Hamsa Yoga which should adequately cover up the 8th House risk. > > > > The astrologers refused to accept my argument and maintained that it will > > > > affect the husband. I do not know how to convince them. > > > > I would be grateful if you could kindly throw some light on this.There is a > > > > reference to this in Parasara Hora Shastra I understand. I request you to > > > > kindly give me the details so that I can show to some of the astrologers. > > > > With pranaams > > > > S.Ramani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/

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Dear Ramanji,

 

Thank you very mych for the ur reply. I think you are very right in pointing out why the native did not have problem in spite of having bad/malefic planetes in 7th and 8th houses. I am really impressed by you analysis.

 

I would be very grateful if you could comments on the following horoscope...........like marriage and other general thing...........................

 

DOB : 20-08-1982

TOB : 05:35 AM

POB: Udaipur, Rajasthan

 

 

Lagana : Cancer, Venus- Cancer, Sun, Moon and Mercury - Leo, Saturn - Vigro, Jupiter and Mars - Libra, Ketu, Rahu - Saggiturs

 

 

In the given horoscope Lagna and Mooon are next to each other, hence finding the marriage time becomes difficult. A rule, when jupiter in 2,5,7 and 9 in transit or see the 7th house will cause some activity related to this. Moreover, it is told that when saturn aspects 7th house will cause some activity there.

 

 

Since Lagan is cancer and Moon sign is Leo, this period will extend for 5 years. As observed, the 7th house is aspected by venus and mars, which does not tell late marriage.

 

 

While predicitng the year of marriage, what one should consider ????

 

Whether we should consider 2,5,7 and 9 should from Lagana or Rashi ?

 

If you could clarify some of these thing i would really appreciate it.

 

 

 

Regards,

Mangal

 

--- On Wed, 3/12/08, Ramani <sramani122 wrote:

Ramani <sramani122Re: Re: Re: Re: [saatwik.com] Vedic Astrology Sani and Sun in 8th HouseVedic Astrology Cc: "mangal kothari" <myselfmangalWednesday, 3 December, 2008, 10:38 AMSorry Kothariji and Group.

Namaskar Guruji. Sorry & nbsp;I made a mistake by calling Mars a radical

planet for Meena Lagna. It is not. But still Mars is the lord of 9th. in the

2nd. so shud bring good luck only. Moreover another point of view I have is that

we shud not judge Mars just by the position alone. If in the present case Mars

is hemmed in between Mercury and Jupiter then it cannot cause any harm. It will

only do good or remain neutral since the two benefics will keep it in check. We

therefore have to consider the longitudes of Mars; Mercury; Jupiter and Moon

before predicting.

Pl advise on this matter also Guruji.

Pranaams.

Ramani

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On Wed, 03 Dec 2008 Ramani wrote : & gt;Dear Kothariji, & gt;

& gt;Thks for sharing your experience. My analysis;not as a qualified

astrologer, but based on my reading of various books is as follows:- & gt;

& gt;1. For Meena Lagna;Sani in Libra is exalted. Venus also in Libra

occupies own house with a friend. Venus is the Kaaraka for Marriage. The

presence of Shani though a maelific will not interefere in the marriage bec he

is exalted. Venus as the Karaka in own house gives him the power to ward off

attacks by malefics. & gt;2. Does not matter if Jupiter is in 6th house in

Leo which is a friendly house. Will help him overcome his enimies. With Moon

present there think we shud look at it strengthening the Lagna Lord rather than

as a malefic (waning moon is malefic). This shud bestow long life to the

person.Moreover the moon also has some portfolio of giving children and Jupiter

is putra karaka. So the ill effect of Ketu in the 3rd has been countered by the

Guru Moon combination which shud have given the person good children.

& gt;3.For Meena Lagna Mars is the radical planet. It shud not be considered

as a malefic other than his own house or in 6/8 positions. Mercury is exalted in

his own house which shud be able to overcome the ill effects of malefic Sun.

According to me the 7th. house shud be treated as having two benefics and one

malefic. The two good planets together will be able to overcome the ill effect

of sun. I may even dare to predict that the wife shud hv brought the person luck

and wealth. She will speak her mind and likely to be assertive. & gt;

& gt;Guruji, please guide me if my analysis is correct. Your guidance will

help us improve our knowledge on the subject. & gt; & gt;I do hope many

more people participate in these discussions with their views. This will expand

the understanding of the subject. Moreover I feel the conditions in modern times

may be different from what it was hundreds of years ago. We may learn how to

allot more portfolios to planets to explain the happenings in presnt day.

& gt; & gt;Awaiting your valuable guidance Guruji. & gt;

& gt;Paranaams. & gt;Ramani & gt; & gt; & gt;On Tue, 02 Dec 2008

mangal kothari wrote : & gt; & gt;Dear Ramaniji, & gt; & gt;Â

& gt; & gt;I would like to answer your question by different horoscope,

which i have come across few years back & gt; & gt;Â & gt;

& gt;DOB: 13-0ct-1955 & gt; & gt;TOB : 17-25 & gt; & gt;POB :

Udaipur, Rajasthan & gt; & gt;Â & gt; & gt;Problem in horoscope

(similar to what u reported) & gt; & gt;Â & gt; & gt;Lagna : Meena

& gt; & gt;Â & gt; & gt;8th house : Sani and Venus (Venus being 7th

lord & nbsp; is in his own & nbsp;rashi & nbsp;with Sani) & gt;

& gt;7th house : Mars, Sun, Mercury (two malefici planet) & gt;

& gt;6th house : Jupiter, Moon (Lord of lagna is in 6th house) & gt;

& gt;3th house : Ketu & gt; & gt;Â & gt; & gt;Moreover, lord of

5th house is in also 6th house. Only good thing in horoscope is that lord of 9th

house is in kendra (means in 7th house). In spite of this, the native has no

major problem in marriage life and as per our discussion his is haapy with his

marriage life (may be with little up and downs). D-9 is also no

impressive. & nbsp; I guess why he is got away with the problem may be

Mercury is exaclted in 7th house in spite of 7th lord in 8th house. & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt;Now coming back to ur question, & nbsp;although

two malefic planets are there in 8th house, 7th lord in 9th house and Good

jupiter and Moon will drive her marriage life ok i feel. Please do follow Guruji

advice for good results []. & gt; & gt;Â & gt; & gt;Good luck for

her marriage life & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;Regards, & gt;

& gt;Mangal & gt; & gt;--- On Tue, 2/12/08, Ramani wrote: & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; Ramani & gt; & gt;Re: Re:

[saatwik.com] Vedic Astrology Sani and Sun in 8th House & gt; & gt;To:

Vedic Astrology & gt; & gt;Cc: "Gopal Krishan

Doda" & gt; & gt;Tuesday, 2 December, 2008, 11:28 AM & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;Date of Birth of the

subject is Nov 10th. 1984; Place of birth Mumbai; Time of birth 4.07pm & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;On Tue, 02 Dec 2008 Gopal Krishan

Doda wrote : & gt; & gt; & gt;Dear Ramani, & gt; & gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt;Please post birth particulars of the native to

discuss. There are number of & gt; & gt; & gt;other parameters to say

anything about marriage. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

& gt;Gopal Krishan Doda & gt; & gt; & gt;Admin & gt; & gt;

& gt;Saatwik.com & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;On Mon,

Dec 1, 2008 at 10:30 PM, Ramani wrote: & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; Dear Swamiji, & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I

have seen the horoscope of a girl who is 24yrs old. & gt; & gt; & gt;

& gt; Her & nbsp;Lagna & nbsp;is in Meena Rasi & nbsp;with Sani

and Sun placed in Tula & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; rasi. Sani here is

exalted while Sun is debilitated. Venus alongwith Guru is & gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; posited in Dhanur Rasi in the 10th House- in Kendra. While

discussing with & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; some astrologers in Mumbai;

Chennai and Kerala they said the Sani+Sun & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

combination in 8th House will lead to loss of & nbsp;her husband. I pointed

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; out that two & nbsp;malefic planets in

8th house first leads to Balarishta. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

Moreover with Venus joining Guru in a Kendra this bad effect is nullified.

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Since the girl has survived the balarishta I

argued that the malefic effect & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; of the sani

sun combination is not there. Moreover Moon is in & nbsp;Taurus & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; and the 8th. house from there is Dhanur rasi where 2

benefic planets are & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; posited so the bad

effect of sani sun combi is not confirmed. Also I & gt; & gt; & gt;

& gt; indicated that for Meena Lagna if Guru is in Dhanur Rasi it gives rise

to & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; Hamsa Yoga which should adequately cover

up the 8th House risk. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; The astrologers

refused to accept my argument and maintained that it will & gt; & gt;

& gt; & gt; affect the husband. I do not know how to convince them.

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; I would be grateful if you could kindly

throw some light on this.There is a & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt;

reference to this in Parasara Hora Shastra I understand. I request you to

& gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; kindly give me the details so that I can

show to some of the astrologers. & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; With

pranaams & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; S.Ramani & gt; & gt; & gt;

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