Guest guest Posted February 8, 2009 Report Share Posted February 8, 2009 Hi, There is enough confusion here ( including the English language used ). First of all, spiritual / less spiritual / agnostic / atheist etc, are the views we have on our own self. This is not a group phenomenon. So, if views of others decide what you are , probably there is only a confusion about one's own self. Secondly, the spirituality is out of our own thinking and not what we posses as "material wealth". Some materials could be essential , in the path to achieve the maturity of our own self, but , I believe , the means are not the ends. The confusion starts when a group decides the meaning of the terms. Most of the religions of the world ( Islam, Christianity, Judaism etc ) have added to this problem , by defining what their prophets think as "spiritual". Here the self is lost and community decides what category a person belongs to. For example, a Christian may think that the person belonging to other religion is not spiritual, because the other person is not following the Bible. Such being the case, is there a real definition for spirituality ? As a student of Vedantha, I can say the best definition can be the "one who sees the self in others and does good to himself and others to help himself". ( I have tried to correlate " Athmavath SarvaBhoothani ... " to the context.) All other material possessions, Crystal balls, etc, are the means to achieve this. Note : I feel, the word "spiritual" is derived from the word "spirit", which is one's own self ( not the ghosts). regardsShri--- On Sun, 2/8/09, jaffacakey2003 <jaffacakey wrote:jaffacakey2003 <jaffacakey[saatwik.com] Vedic Astrology ~~ The Fine Line With Being Spiritual ~~Vedic Astrology Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 10:34 PM ~~ The Fine Line With Being Spiritual ~~ Hiya all, Well I dont do a lot of posting on the group but thats all going to change I now have a little more time on my hands and I will be using the time to post on here..... So, The Fine Line.... Well this is going to be a bit of a ramble but I will try my hardest to explain what I mean and I would love to hear your views on this subject.... When I say the fine line I am refering to the fine line between being too spiritual and not spiritual enough... I would consider myself quiet balanced as far as being both spiritual and fitting in with my surrounding without being judged / frounded upon with regards to what I belive, as im sure most of you have encounted on your path... I did used to find it difficult to share what I belive in, talk about healing and infact any of the topics we cover here at OBC. I would find some people laff at me if I mentioned mediumship or healing energy etc, others would frown at me and allmost at the same time catigorise me as a fruitcake and thus never taking me seriously again... Im sure I could continue on this bit alone for a while about the different responced received but Im sure you allready get the idea..... So if you live in a community that does not share similar beleifs as yourself and its not that you fear being singled out but on the whole it would make your life for you and your family easyer if people didnt know your beleifs, and you blend in..... Right I will side track a little now, I will share some of my beleifs now without going into too much detail... OK I belive we create our own realities in every way shape and form, but this also means that everyone else also creates theres... Everyone knows what they know at there own level... this I think means many things.... Being unconditional. .. What other people think is none of your business... There is more but I would like to continue with these for the moment...... So going back to what do we do, how do we deal with this? you could say that if you fear the respoces of what others with do say and think within your community, then you would be manifesting that outcome.... So you are like an underground spiritual person who has to keep all the valuble information, beleifs to your self and obviously your closest friends and OBC lol..... You could think, fuck it, I am who I am, I dont care what others think, dress your house with crystals, wear light coloured clothing al the time and walk round with a crystal ball under your arm.... But it is probable that you will be know to your neighbours / community as the local nutter for generations to come and be generally made a specticle of....... Or maybe your poticulally good at manifesting and you manifest harmany within your community even tho you have different beleifs, and you are allways teated the same both respected and taken seriously... This would be ideal indeed... And yes its possible I hear some of you think, well I did say we create our own realities, and we do, and we could.... BUT do we forget that all the others in the community create there own reality and in there reality they dont like nutters, freaks, medium.. and they dnt belive in energy or spirits and they fear you because you know stuff that they dont.... and in turn they may not want there kids, family to mix with you because your a nutter?? your getting the idea... I didnt just think this up lol So is it then that with being spiritual, and being mostly love and light, crystals, healing and chatting with spirits etc sounds all very perfect and harmonious .. yes... maybe in the olden days many thousends of years ago when it would have been more accepted, but with the world we live in today I feel there is perhaps no 20th century spiritual survivle guide handbook avalable hehe Then there is the other side, where perhaps people would like to be more spiritual but are so in fear of what others think, they hide there crystals, there books, go on OBC late at night when nobodys home etc etc where they dont have the surroundings to be as spiritual as they would like to be..... And there is allways going to be there people who go the whole hog and live eat and breath spiritualisum with everyone they meet etc etc etc..... So the Question now is where is the line??? Is there a line??? I would love to hear some responces before I personally answer this.... Love and light Jaff www.onebigcircle. org I have also started this thred on OBC, found here http://onebigcircle .org/forum/ viewtopic. php?f=19 & t=368 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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