Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Dear List Members, Below is the chart of a lady who approached me , with only one question, can I divorce my husband, that's the only information I have about her, I will be meeting her today to discuss more with her about her martial life. 24th July 1974, 11:42 PM, 80E37, 16N31, India. A first look at the chart shows some promise as Venus the 7th lord is sitting strong unafflicted in the 3rd, virtually no Weakness in D9 On the negative side 4th lord moon is in the 6th house hence domestic front faces disputive situations, Moon in D9 is placed in its own MT house a very minor advantage. There apparently seems to be a balance with a Strong Venus as protector and Weak Moon causing suffering, some might say why not consider Mercury's affliction to Saturn, some might answer…. as Saturn is the 11th lord and not a Marital Signifactor. But here is what matters. The Signifactor for husband Jupiter is in the 11th well placed but its dispositor is closely afflicted by the 6th lord, another signifactor for husband Sun is very well placed in the 4th close to MEP but its dispositor is again in the 6th house, Prime Signifactor for husband 7th lord Venus is well placed, it seems the husband of the lady is not the major contributor to the issues at the domestic front. The lady has Mars ruling self well placed in the 5th but its dispositor Sun(emotions, mental inclination) is weak due to Moon in the 6th and thus Mars ruling self also shows the same trend, the 11th lord for the lady is closely afflicted by 6th lord mercury debilitated in D9 which largely reflects on her ability to end friendships which seems to face constant trouble due to her disputive/un-adjusting nature. Having a friendly disposition in marriage is important to hold it good. On top she is running Ju/Sa/Ra which is showing the trends of the natal 6th lord affliction, upcoming sub-period of mercury will continue the trend and subperiod lord is in transit through a weak MT of cancer. Professor VKC mentioned that Moon in the 6th is never good for martial signifaction holds true too. Natal debilitated Ketu/Rahu has also shown their transit impacts over the years and Natal debilitated Ketu just about is hovering outside the 5 degree orb has some impact too. In addition to looking at the strength and weakness of planets, its important to also look at the state(aspects afflictions etc) of the dispositor for the signifactors. while a planet may be strong on many accounts the trends of the dispositor also governs largely how the significance fructify. Thanks and Regards Amit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Respected Professor and Amit, I would like to clarify here a point about dispositors; If say a MT house is afflicted by an FM closely and if the dispositor of such a house is well placed and in close conjunction with another FB would the dispositor carry the impact of the affliction such that it would weaken the functioning of the other FB to a certain extent? So in such a case the mutual aspect of two FBs would not be so beneficial? Thanks and Regards, PNR , " amit_patnaik6 " <amit_patnaik6> wrote: > > > Dear List Members, > > Below is the chart of a lady who approached me , with only one > question, can I divorce my husband, that's the only information I > have about her, I will be meeting her today to discuss more with her > about her martial life. > > 24th July 1974, 11:42 PM, 80E37, 16N31, India. > > A first look at the chart shows some promise as Venus the 7th lord is > sitting strong unafflicted in the 3rd, virtually no Weakness in D9 > On the negative side 4th lord moon is in the 6th house hence domestic > front faces disputive situations, Moon in D9 is placed in its own MT > house a very minor advantage. > There apparently seems to be a balance with a Strong Venus as > protector and Weak Moon causing suffering, some might say why not > consider Mercury's affliction to Saturn, some might answer…. as > Saturn is the 11th lord and not a Marital Signifactor. > But here is what matters. > > The Signifactor for husband Jupiter is in the 11th well placed but > its dispositor is closely afflicted by the 6th lord, another > signifactor for husband Sun is very well placed in the 4th close to > MEP but its dispositor is again in the 6th house, Prime Signifactor > for husband 7th lord Venus is well placed, it seems the husband of > the lady is not the major contributor to the issues at the domestic > front. > > The lady has Mars ruling self well placed in the 5th but its > dispositor Sun(emotions, mental inclination) is weak due to Moon in > the 6th and thus Mars ruling self also shows the same trend, the 11th > lord for the lady is closely afflicted by 6th lord mercury > debilitated in D9 which largely reflects on her ability to end > friendships which seems to face constant trouble due to her > disputive/un-adjusting nature. Having a friendly disposition in > marriage is important to hold it good. > > On top she is running Ju/Sa/Ra which is showing the trends of the > natal 6th lord affliction, upcoming sub-period of mercury will > continue the trend and subperiod lord is in transit through a weak MT > of cancer. > Professor VKC mentioned that Moon in the 6th is never good for > martial signifaction holds true too. Natal debilitated Ketu/Rahu > has also shown their transit impacts over the years and Natal > debilitated Ketu just about is hovering outside the 5 degree orb has > some impact too. > In addition to looking at the strength and weakness of planets, its > important to also look at the state(aspects afflictions etc) of the > dispositor for the signifactors. > while a planet may be strong on many accounts the trends of the > dispositor also governs largely how the significance fructify. > > Thanks and Regards > Amit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Hello PNR, Your reference is about the lord of an afflicted MT house. Yes this will carry the impact of the afflction to another planet with which it is in close conjunction. And in such a case the mutual aspect/conjunction of two FBs would not be so beneficial. Best wishes, - " pnr312 " <pnr312 Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:23 AM Re: The Importance of Dispositor Respected Professor and Amit, I would like to clarify here a point about dispositors; If say a MT house is afflicted by an FM closely and if the dispositor (Lord) of such a house is well placed and in close conjunction with another FB would the dispositor (Lord) carry the impact of the affliction such that it would weaken the functioning of the other FB to a certain extent? So in such a case the mutual aspect of two FBs would not be so beneficial? Thanks and Regards, PNR , " amit_patnaik6 " <amit_patnaik6> wrote: > > > Dear List Members, > > Below is the chart of a lady who approached me , with only one > question, can I divorce my husband, that's the only information I > have about her, I will be meeting her today to discuss more with her > about her martial life. > > 24th July 1974, 11:42 PM, 80E37, 16N31, India. > > A first look at the chart shows some promise as Venus the 7th lord is > sitting strong unafflicted in the 3rd, virtually no Weakness in D9 > On the negative side 4th lord moon is in the 6th house hence domestic > front faces disputive situations, Moon in D9 is placed in its own MT > house a very minor advantage. > There apparently seems to be a balance with a Strong Venus as > protector and Weak Moon causing suffering, some might say why not > consider Mercury's affliction to Saturn, some might answer.. as > Saturn is the 11th lord and not a Marital Signifactor. > But here is what matters. > > The Signifactor for husband Jupiter is in the 11th well placed but > its dispositor is closely afflicted by the 6th lord, another > signifactor for husband Sun is very well placed in the 4th close to > MEP but its dispositor is again in the 6th house, Prime Signifactor > for husband 7th lord Venus is well placed, it seems the husband of > the lady is not the major contributor to the issues at the domestic > front. > > The lady has Mars ruling self well placed in the 5th but its > dispositor Sun(emotions, mental inclination) is weak due to Moon in > the 6th and thus Mars ruling self also shows the same trend, the 11th > lord for the lady is closely afflicted by 6th lord mercury > debilitated in D9 which largely reflects on her ability to end > friendships which seems to face constant trouble due to her > disputive/un-adjusting nature. Having a friendly disposition in > marriage is important to hold it good. > > On top she is running Ju/Sa/Ra which is showing the trends of the > natal 6th lord affliction, upcoming sub-period of mercury will > continue the trend and subperiod lord is in transit through a weak MT > of cancer. > Professor VKC mentioned that Moon in the 6th is never good for > martial signifaction holds true too. Natal debilitated Ketu/Rahu > has also shown their transit impacts over the years and Natal > debilitated Ketu just about is hovering outside the 5 degree orb has > some impact too. > In addition to looking at the strength and weakness of planets, its > important to also look at the state(aspects afflictions etc) of the > dispositor for the signifactors. > while a planet may be strong on many accounts the trends of the > dispositor also governs largely how the significance fructify. > > Thanks and Regards > Amit > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 11, 2005 Report Share Posted October 11, 2005 Dear Sir, Thanks for the clarification. I thought that a dispositor always implies the lord of an MT house so I skipped it but yes thats what I meant. So would the dispositor influence the other planet enough to not be able to protect its general and particular significations? By particular I mean the other planet's MT significations? I'm just trying to guage the extent of impact here......... Thanks in advance, Regards, PNR , <siha> wrote: > > > Hello PNR, > > Your reference is about the lord of an afflicted MT house. Yes this will > carry the impact of the afflction to another planet with which it is in > close conjunction. > > And in such a case the mutual aspect/conjunction of two FBs would not be so > beneficial. > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " pnr312 " <pnr312> > > Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:23 AM > Re: The Importance of Dispositor > > > > Respected Professor and Amit, > > I would like to clarify here a point about dispositors; > > If say a MT house is afflicted by an FM closely and if the > dispositor (Lord) of such a house is well placed and in close conjunction > with another FB would the dispositor (Lord) carry the impact of the > affliction such that it would weaken the functioning of the other FB > to a certain extent? > So in such a case the mutual aspect of two FBs would not be so > beneficial? > > Thanks and Regards, > PNR > > > , " amit_patnaik6 " > <amit_patnaik6> wrote: > > > > > > Dear List Members, > > > > Below is the chart of a lady who approached me , with only one > > question, can I divorce my husband, that's the only information I > > have about her, I will be meeting her today to discuss more with > her > > about her martial life. > > > > 24th July 1974, 11:42 PM, 80E37, 16N31, India. > > > > A first look at the chart shows some promise as Venus the 7th lord > is > > sitting strong unafflicted in the 3rd, virtually no Weakness in D9 > > On the negative side 4th lord moon is in the 6th house hence > domestic > > front faces disputive situations, Moon in D9 is placed in its own > MT > > house a very minor advantage. > > There apparently seems to be a balance with a Strong Venus as > > protector and Weak Moon causing suffering, some might say why not > > consider Mercury's affliction to Saturn, some might answer.. as > > Saturn is the 11th lord and not a Marital Signifactor. > > But here is what matters. > > > > The Signifactor for husband Jupiter is in the 11th well placed but > > its dispositor is closely afflicted by the 6th lord, another > > signifactor for husband Sun is very well placed in the 4th close > to > > MEP but its dispositor is again in the 6th house, Prime > Signifactor > > for husband 7th lord Venus is well placed, it seems the husband of > > the lady is not the major contributor to the issues at the > domestic > > front. > > > > The lady has Mars ruling self well placed in the 5th but its > > dispositor Sun(emotions, mental inclination) is weak due to Moon > in > > the 6th and thus Mars ruling self also shows the same trend, the > 11th > > lord for the lady is closely afflicted by 6th lord mercury > > debilitated in D9 which largely reflects on her ability to end > > friendships which seems to face constant trouble due to her > > disputive/un-adjusting nature. Having a friendly disposition in > > marriage is important to hold it good. > > > > On top she is running Ju/Sa/Ra which is showing the trends of the > > natal 6th lord affliction, upcoming sub-period of mercury will > > continue the trend and subperiod lord is in transit through a weak > MT > > of cancer. > > Professor VKC mentioned that Moon in the 6th is never good for > > martial signifaction holds true too. Natal debilitated Ketu/Rahu > > has also shown their transit impacts over the years and Natal > > debilitated Ketu just about is hovering outside the 5 degree orb > has > > some impact too. > > In addition to looking at the strength and weakness of planets, > its > > important to also look at the state(aspects afflictions etc) of > the > > dispositor for the signifactors. > > while a planet may be strong on many accounts the trends of the > > dispositor also governs largely how the significance fructify. > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Amit > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Hello PNR, I add my replies in capitals to your message. Best wishes, - " pnr312 " <pnr312 Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:55 AM Re: The Importance of Dispositor > > Dear Sir, > > Thanks for the clarification. > > I thought that a dispositor always implies the lord of an MT house > so I skipped it but yes thats what I meant. > > So would the dispositor influence the other planet enough to not be > able to protect its general and particular significations? By > particular I mean the other planet's MT significations? YES. YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE TERMINOLOGY CORRECTLY. DISPOSITOR According to the Systems' Approach, the dispositor is a planet in whose mooltrikona sign another planet is located in the natal chart. Suppose in a natal chart the Sun is placed in the sign Libra ruled by Venus. In this case Venus will be the dispositor of the Sun. No planet which is in a non- mooltrikona sign will have a dispositor i.e. the planet(s) in Taurus, Gemini, Scorpio, Capricorn and Pisces have no dispositor. If a planet is posited in Aries, its dispositor would be Mars; if a planet is posited in Cancer, its dispositor would be the Moon; if a planet is posited in Leo, its dispositor would be the Sun; if a planet is posited in Virgo, its dispositor would be Mercury; if a planet is posited in Libra, its dispositor would be Venus; if a planet is posited in Sagittarius, its dispositor would be Jupiter; and if a planet is posited in Aquarius, its dispositor would be Saturn. > I'm just trying to guage the extent of impact here......... > > Thanks in advance, > Regards, > PNR > > , <siha> wrote: >> >> >> Hello PNR, >> >> Your reference is about the lord of an afflicted MT house. Yes > this will >> carry the impact of the afflction to another planet with which it > is in >> close conjunction. >> >> And in such a case the mutual aspect/conjunction of two FBs would > not be so >> beneficial. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> - >> " pnr312 " <pnr312> >> >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:23 AM >> Re: The Importance of Dispositor >> >> >> >> Respected Professor and Amit, >> >> I would like to clarify here a point about dispositors; >> >> If say a MT house is afflicted by an FM closely and if the >> dispositor (Lord) of such a house is well placed and in close > conjunction >> with another FB would the dispositor (Lord) carry the impact of the >> affliction such that it would weaken the functioning of the other > FB >> to a certain extent? >> So in such a case the mutual aspect of two FBs would not be so >> beneficial? >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> PNR >> >> >> , " amit_patnaik6 " >> <amit_patnaik6> wrote: >> > >> > >> > Dear List Members, >> > >> > Below is the chart of a lady who approached me , with only one >> > question, can I divorce my husband, that's the only information I >> > have about her, I will be meeting her today to discuss more with >> her >> > about her martial life. >> > >> > 24th July 1974, 11:42 PM, 80E37, 16N31, India. >> > >> > A first look at the chart shows some promise as Venus the 7th > lord >> is >> > sitting strong unafflicted in the 3rd, virtually no Weakness in > D9 >> > On the negative side 4th lord moon is in the 6th house hence >> domestic >> > front faces disputive situations, Moon in D9 is placed in its own >> MT >> > house a very minor advantage. >> > There apparently seems to be a balance with a Strong Venus as >> > protector and Weak Moon causing suffering, some might say why not >> > consider Mercury's affliction to Saturn, some might answer.. as >> > Saturn is the 11th lord and not a Marital Signifactor. >> > But here is what matters. >> > >> > The Signifactor for husband Jupiter is in the 11th well placed > but >> > its dispositor is closely afflicted by the 6th lord, another >> > signifactor for husband Sun is very well placed in the 4th close >> to >> > MEP but its dispositor is again in the 6th house, Prime >> Signifactor >> > for husband 7th lord Venus is well placed, it seems the husband > of >> > the lady is not the major contributor to the issues at the >> domestic >> > front. >> > >> > The lady has Mars ruling self well placed in the 5th but its >> > dispositor Sun(emotions, mental inclination) is weak due to Moon >> in >> > the 6th and thus Mars ruling self also shows the same trend, the >> 11th >> > lord for the lady is closely afflicted by 6th lord mercury >> > debilitated in D9 which largely reflects on her ability to end >> > friendships which seems to face constant trouble due to her >> > disputive/un-adjusting nature. Having a friendly disposition in >> > marriage is important to hold it good. >> > >> > On top she is running Ju/Sa/Ra which is showing the trends of > the >> > natal 6th lord affliction, upcoming sub-period of mercury will >> > continue the trend and subperiod lord is in transit through a > weak >> MT >> > of cancer. >> > Professor VKC mentioned that Moon in the 6th is never good for >> > martial signifaction holds true too. Natal debilitated > Ketu/Rahu >> > has also shown their transit impacts over the years and Natal >> > debilitated Ketu just about is hovering outside the 5 degree orb >> has >> > some impact too. >> > In addition to looking at the strength and weakness of planets, >> its >> > important to also look at the state(aspects afflictions etc) of >> the >> > dispositor for the signifactors. >> > while a planet may be strong on many accounts the trends of the >> > dispositor also governs largely how the significance fructify. >> > >> > Thanks and Regards >> > Amit >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Dear Sir, I'm sorry I should have rephrased my sentence correctly. I do know the definition of a dispositor but thanks anyway for that detailed description. Regards, PNR , <siha> wrote: > > > Hello PNR, > > I add my replies in capitals to your message. > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " pnr312 " <pnr312> > > Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:55 AM > Re: The Importance of Dispositor > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Thanks for the clarification. > > > > I thought that a dispositor always implies the lord of an MT house > > so I skipped it but yes thats what I meant. > > > > > So would the dispositor influence the other planet enough to not be > > able to protect its general and particular significations? By > > particular I mean the other planet's MT significations? > > YES. YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE TERMINOLOGY CORRECTLY. > > DISPOSITOR > > According to the Systems' Approach, the dispositor is a planet in whose > mooltrikona sign another planet is located in the natal chart. Suppose in a > natal chart the Sun is placed in the sign Libra ruled by Venus. In this case > Venus will be the dispositor of the Sun. No planet which is in a non- > mooltrikona sign will have a dispositor i.e. the planet(s) in Taurus, > Gemini, Scorpio, Capricorn and Pisces have no dispositor. If a planet is > posited in Aries, its dispositor would be Mars; if a planet is posited in > Cancer, its dispositor would be the Moon; if a planet is posited in Leo, its > dispositor would be the Sun; if a planet is posited in Virgo, its dispositor > would be Mercury; if a planet is posited in Libra, its dispositor would be > Venus; if a planet is posited in Sagittarius, its dispositor would be > Jupiter; and if a planet is posited in Aquarius, its dispositor would be > Saturn. > > > > > > > I'm just trying to guage the extent of impact here......... > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Regards, > > PNR > > > > , <siha> wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hello PNR, > >> > >> Your reference is about the lord of an afflicted MT house. Yes > > this will > >> carry the impact of the afflction to another planet with which it > > is in > >> close conjunction. > >> > >> And in such a case the mutual aspect/conjunction of two FBs would > > not be so > >> beneficial. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> " pnr312 " <pnr312> > >> > >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:23 AM > >> Re: The Importance of Dispositor > >> > >> > >> > >> Respected Professor and Amit, > >> > >> I would like to clarify here a point about dispositors; > >> > >> If say a MT house is afflicted by an FM closely and if the > >> dispositor (Lord) of such a house is well placed and in close > > conjunction > >> with another FB would the dispositor (Lord) carry the impact of the > >> affliction such that it would weaken the functioning of the other > > FB > >> to a certain extent? > >> So in such a case the mutual aspect of two FBs would not be so > >> beneficial? > >> > >> Thanks and Regards, > >> PNR > >> > >> > >> , " amit_patnaik6 " > >> <amit_patnaik6> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > Dear List Members, > >> > > >> > Below is the chart of a lady who approached me , with only one > >> > question, can I divorce my husband, that's the only information I > >> > have about her, I will be meeting her today to discuss more with > >> her > >> > about her martial life. > >> > > >> > 24th July 1974, 11:42 PM, 80E37, 16N31, India. > >> > > >> > A first look at the chart shows some promise as Venus the 7th > > lord > >> is > >> > sitting strong unafflicted in the 3rd, virtually no Weakness in > > D9 > >> > On the negative side 4th lord moon is in the 6th house hence > >> domestic > >> > front faces disputive situations, Moon in D9 is placed in its own > >> MT > >> > house a very minor advantage. > >> > There apparently seems to be a balance with a Strong Venus as > >> > protector and Weak Moon causing suffering, some might say why not > >> > consider Mercury's affliction to Saturn, some might answer.. as > >> > Saturn is the 11th lord and not a Marital Signifactor. > >> > But here is what matters. > >> > > >> > The Signifactor for husband Jupiter is in the 11th well placed > > but > >> > its dispositor is closely afflicted by the 6th lord, another > >> > signifactor for husband Sun is very well placed in the 4th close > >> to > >> > MEP but its dispositor is again in the 6th house, Prime > >> Signifactor > >> > for husband 7th lord Venus is well placed, it seems the husband > > of > >> > the lady is not the major contributor to the issues at the > >> domestic > >> > front. > >> > > >> > The lady has Mars ruling self well placed in the 5th but its > >> > dispositor Sun(emotions, mental inclination) is weak due to Moon > >> in > >> > the 6th and thus Mars ruling self also shows the same trend, the > >> 11th > >> > lord for the lady is closely afflicted by 6th lord mercury > >> > debilitated in D9 which largely reflects on her ability to end > >> > friendships which seems to face constant trouble due to her > >> > disputive/un-adjusting nature. Having a friendly disposition in > >> > marriage is important to hold it good. > >> > > >> > On top she is running Ju/Sa/Ra which is showing the trends of > > the > >> > natal 6th lord affliction, upcoming sub-period of mercury will > >> > continue the trend and subperiod lord is in transit through a > > weak > >> MT > >> > of cancer. > >> > Professor VKC mentioned that Moon in the 6th is never good for > >> > martial signifaction holds true too. Natal debilitated > > Ketu/Rahu > >> > has also shown their transit impacts over the years and Natal > >> > debilitated Ketu just about is hovering outside the 5 degree orb > >> has > >> > some impact too. > >> > In addition to looking at the strength and weakness of planets, > >> its > >> > important to also look at the state(aspects afflictions etc) of > >> the > >> > dispositor for the signifactors. > >> > while a planet may be strong on many accounts the trends of the > >> > dispositor also governs largely how the significance fructify. > >> > > >> > Thanks and Regards > >> > Amit > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hello Prof, I understand the dipositor theory from this message below. Also I understand the MEP and MMP, Aspects and transits. I observe that in many cases, the non mooltrikona houses like scorpio there is no aspect and there is no planet placed there either. I take my own chart as example for this. DOB:- 7th feb 1978, 00:25:00 , Bangalore city. I find the second house (scorpio in this case) has no aspect from the planets or nodes, no planets placed in it and it is non mool trikona. This being second house in this chart it holds lot of importance. But i do not understand how to make any interpretations for the significations of this house. Would appreciate some help related to this. Thanks & Regards, Venu --- siha wrote: > > Hello PNR, > > I add my replies in capitals to your message. > > Best wishes, > > > > - > " pnr312 " <pnr312 > > Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:55 AM > Re: The Importance of Dispositor > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Thanks for the clarification. > > > > I thought that a dispositor always implies the > lord of an MT house > > so I skipped it but yes thats what I meant. > > > > > So would the dispositor influence the other planet > enough to not be > > able to protect its general and particular > significations? By > > particular I mean the other planet's MT > significations? > > YES. YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE TERMINOLOGY CORRECTLY. > > DISPOSITOR > > According to the Systems' Approach, the dispositor > is a planet in whose > mooltrikona sign another planet is located in the > natal chart. Suppose in a > natal chart the Sun is placed in the sign Libra > ruled by Venus. In this case > Venus will be the dispositor of the Sun. No planet > which is in a non- > mooltrikona sign will have a dispositor i.e. the > planet(s) in Taurus, > Gemini, Scorpio, Capricorn and Pisces have no > dispositor. If a planet is > posited in Aries, its dispositor would be Mars; if a > planet is posited in > Cancer, its dispositor would be the Moon; if a > planet is posited in Leo, its > dispositor would be the Sun; if a planet is posited > in Virgo, its dispositor > would be Mercury; if a planet is posited in Libra, > its dispositor would be > Venus; if a planet is posited in Sagittarius, its > dispositor would be > Jupiter; and if a planet is posited in Aquarius, its > dispositor would be > Saturn. > > > > > > > I'm just trying to guage the extent of impact > here......... > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Regards, > > PNR > > > > , <siha> > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hello PNR, > >> > >> Your reference is about the lord of an afflicted > MT house. Yes > > this will > >> carry the impact of the afflction to another > planet with which it > > is in > >> close conjunction. > >> > >> And in such a case the mutual aspect/conjunction > of two FBs would > > not be so > >> beneficial. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> " pnr312 " <pnr312> > >> > >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:23 AM > >> Re: The Importance of > Dispositor > >> > >> > >> > >> Respected Professor and Amit, > >> > >> I would like to clarify here a point about > dispositors; > >> > >> If say a MT house is afflicted by an FM closely > and if the > >> dispositor (Lord) of such a house is well placed > and in close > > conjunction > >> with another FB would the dispositor (Lord) carry > the impact of the > >> affliction such that it would weaken the > functioning of the other > > FB > >> to a certain extent? > >> So in such a case the mutual aspect of two FBs > would not be so > >> beneficial? > >> > >> Thanks and Regards, > >> PNR > >> > >> > >> , " amit_patnaik6 " > >> <amit_patnaik6> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > Dear List Members, > >> > > >> > Below is the chart of a lady who approached me > , with only one > >> > question, can I divorce my husband, that's the > only information I > >> > have about her, I will be meeting her today to > discuss more with > >> her > >> > about her martial life. > >> > > >> > 24th July 1974, 11:42 PM, 80E37, 16N31, India. > >> > > >> > A first look at the chart shows some promise as > Venus the 7th > > lord > >> is > >> > sitting strong unafflicted in the 3rd, > virtually no Weakness in > > D9 > >> > On the negative side 4th lord moon is in the > 6th house hence > >> domestic > >> > front faces disputive situations, Moon in D9 is > placed in its own > >> MT > >> > house a very minor advantage. > >> > There apparently seems to be a balance with a > Strong Venus as > >> > protector and Weak Moon causing suffering, some > might say why not > >> > consider Mercury's affliction to Saturn, some > might answer.. as > >> > Saturn is the 11th lord and not a Marital > Signifactor. > >> > But here is what matters. > >> > > >> > The Signifactor for husband Jupiter is in the > 11th well placed > > but > >> > its dispositor is closely afflicted by the 6th > lord, another > >> > signifactor for husband Sun is very well placed > in the 4th close > >> to > >> > MEP but its dispositor is again in the 6th > house, Prime > >> Signifactor > >> > for husband 7th lord Venus is well placed, it > seems the husband > > of > >> > the lady is not the major contributor to the > issues at the > >> domestic > >> > front. > >> > > >> > The lady has Mars ruling self well placed in > the 5th but its > >> > dispositor Sun(emotions, mental inclination) is > weak due to Moon > >> in > >> > the 6th and thus Mars ruling self also shows > the same trend, the > >> 11th > >> > lord for the lady is closely afflicted by 6th > lord mercury > >> > debilitated in D9 which largely reflects on her > ability === message truncated === FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. 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Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hello Venu, Where there is no MT sign in a house other house related with the subject are analysed. For status one should see the tenth house. For marriage and marital relationship one should see the seventh and fourth houses. For wealth one should see the eleventh house and fifth house. Best wishes, - " Venugopal V " <venuvenky Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:35 AM Re: Re: The Importance of Dispositor > Hello Prof, > > I understand the dipositor theory from this message > below. > Also I understand the MEP and MMP, Aspects and > transits. > > I observe that in many cases, the non mooltrikona > houses like scorpio there is no aspect and there is no > planet placed there either. I take my own chart as > example for this. > > DOB:- 7th feb 1978, 00:25:00 , Bangalore city. > > I find the second house (scorpio in this case) has no > aspect from the planets or nodes, no planets placed in > it and it is non mool trikona. This being second house > in this chart it holds lot of importance. But i do not > understand how to make any interpretations for the > significations of this house. > > Would appreciate some help related to this. > > Thanks & Regards, > Venu > > --- siha wrote: > >> >> Hello PNR, >> >> I add my replies in capitals to your message. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> - >> " pnr312 " <pnr312 >> >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:55 AM >> Re: The Importance of Dispositor >> >> >> > >> > Dear Sir, >> > >> > Thanks for the clarification. >> > >> > I thought that a dispositor always implies the >> lord of an MT house >> > so I skipped it but yes thats what I meant. >> > >> >> > So would the dispositor influence the other planet >> enough to not be >> > able to protect its general and particular >> significations? By >> > particular I mean the other planet's MT >> significations? >> >> YES. YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE TERMINOLOGY CORRECTLY. >> >> DISPOSITOR >> >> According to the Systems' Approach, the dispositor >> is a planet in whose >> mooltrikona sign another planet is located in the >> natal chart. Suppose in a >> natal chart the Sun is placed in the sign Libra >> ruled by Venus. In this case >> Venus will be the dispositor of the Sun. No planet >> which is in a non- >> mooltrikona sign will have a dispositor i.e. the >> planet(s) in Taurus, >> Gemini, Scorpio, Capricorn and Pisces have no >> dispositor. If a planet is >> posited in Aries, its dispositor would be Mars; if a >> planet is posited in >> Cancer, its dispositor would be the Moon; if a >> planet is posited in Leo, its >> dispositor would be the Sun; if a planet is posited >> in Virgo, its dispositor >> would be Mercury; if a planet is posited in Libra, >> its dispositor would be >> Venus; if a planet is posited in Sagittarius, its >> dispositor would be >> Jupiter; and if a planet is posited in Aquarius, its >> dispositor would be >> Saturn. >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'm just trying to guage the extent of impact >> here......... >> > >> > Thanks in advance, >> > Regards, >> > PNR >> > >> > , <siha> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello PNR, >> >> >> >> Your reference is about the lord of an afflicted >> MT house. Yes >> > this will >> >> carry the impact of the afflction to another >> planet with which it >> > is in >> >> close conjunction. >> >> >> >> And in such a case the mutual aspect/conjunction >> of two FBs would >> > not be so >> >> beneficial. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> " pnr312 " <pnr312> >> >> >> >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:23 AM >> >> Re: The Importance of >> Dispositor >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Respected Professor and Amit, >> >> >> >> I would like to clarify here a point about >> dispositors; >> >> >> >> If say a MT house is afflicted by an FM closely >> and if the >> >> dispositor (Lord) of such a house is well placed >> and in close >> > conjunction >> >> with another FB would the dispositor (Lord) carry >> the impact of the >> >> affliction such that it would weaken the >> functioning of the other >> > FB >> >> to a certain extent? >> >> So in such a case the mutual aspect of two FBs >> would not be so >> >> beneficial? >> >> >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> >> PNR >> >> >> >> >> >> , " amit_patnaik6 " >> >> <amit_patnaik6> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Dear List Members, >> >> > >> >> > Below is the chart of a lady who approached me >> , with only one >> >> > question, can I divorce my husband, that's the >> only information I >> >> > have about her, I will be meeting her today to >> discuss more with >> >> her >> >> > about her martial life. >> >> > >> >> > 24th July 1974, 11:42 PM, 80E37, 16N31, India. >> >> > >> >> > A first look at the chart shows some promise as >> Venus the 7th >> > lord >> >> is >> >> > sitting strong unafflicted in the 3rd, >> virtually no Weakness in >> > D9 >> >> > On the negative side 4th lord moon is in the >> 6th house hence >> >> domestic >> >> > front faces disputive situations, Moon in D9 is >> placed in its own >> >> MT >> >> > house a very minor advantage. >> >> > There apparently seems to be a balance with a >> Strong Venus as >> >> > protector and Weak Moon causing suffering, some >> might say why not >> >> > consider Mercury's affliction to Saturn, some >> might answer.. as >> >> > Saturn is the 11th lord and not a Marital >> Signifactor. >> >> > But here is what matters. >> >> > >> >> > The Signifactor for husband Jupiter is in the >> 11th well placed >> > but >> >> > its dispositor is closely afflicted by the 6th >> lord, another >> >> > signifactor for husband Sun is very well placed >> in the 4th close >> >> to >> >> > MEP but its dispositor is again in the 6th >> house, Prime >> >> Signifactor >> >> > for husband 7th lord Venus is well placed, it >> seems the husband >> > of >> >> > the lady is not the major contributor to the >> issues at the >> >> domestic >> >> > front. >> >> > >> >> > The lady has Mars ruling self well placed in >> the 5th but its >> >> > dispositor Sun(emotions, mental inclination) is >> weak due to Moon >> >> in >> >> > the 6th and thus Mars ruling self also shows >> the same trend, the >> >> 11th >> >> > lord for the lady is closely afflicted by 6th >> lord mercury >> >> > debilitated in D9 which largely reflects on her >> ability > === message truncated === > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Thanks prof for the clarification. One other ambiguous part has been study of combustion effects. I could get very clear information about the distance from Sun for combustion to be valid. But the effects part is not clear. I saw your basic tutorial mentioning that if Sun is a malefic, then combustion is harmful. What if it is benefic in the chart? Is there a pointer to information about exact impact of combustion effects on each planet like Mercury, Venus, Mars, Moon, Jupiter, Saturn. In the case of Moon i think there is some concept of " New " also. Thanks & Regards, Venu --- siha wrote: > > Hello Venu, > > Where there is no MT sign in a house other house > related with the subject > are analysed. For status one should see the tenth > house. For marriage and > marital relationship one should see the seventh and > fourth houses. For > wealth one should see the eleventh house and fifth > house. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " Venugopal V " <venuvenky > > Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:35 AM > Re: Re: The Importance of > Dispositor > > > > Hello Prof, > > > > I understand the dipositor theory from this > message > > below. > > Also I understand the MEP and MMP, Aspects and > > transits. > > > > I observe that in many cases, the non mooltrikona > > houses like scorpio there is no aspect and there > is no > > planet placed there either. I take my own chart as > > example for this. > > > > DOB:- 7th feb 1978, 00:25:00 , Bangalore city. > > > > I find the second house (scorpio in this case) has > no > > aspect from the planets or nodes, no planets > placed in > > it and it is non mool trikona. This being second > house > > in this chart it holds lot of importance. But i do > not > > understand how to make any interpretations for the > > significations of this house. > > > > Would appreciate some help related to this. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Venu > > > > --- siha wrote: > > > >> > >> Hello PNR, > >> > >> I add my replies in capitals to your message. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> " pnr312 " <pnr312 > >> > >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:55 AM > >> Re: The Importance of > Dispositor > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Dear Sir, > >> > > >> > Thanks for the clarification. > >> > > >> > I thought that a dispositor always implies the > >> lord of an MT house > >> > so I skipped it but yes thats what I meant. > >> > > >> > >> > So would the dispositor influence the other > planet > >> enough to not be > >> > able to protect its general and particular > >> significations? By > >> > particular I mean the other planet's MT > >> significations? > >> > >> YES. YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE TERMINOLOGY > CORRECTLY. > >> > >> DISPOSITOR > >> > >> According to the Systems' Approach, the > dispositor > >> is a planet in whose > >> mooltrikona sign another planet is located in the > >> natal chart. Suppose in a > >> natal chart the Sun is placed in the sign Libra > >> ruled by Venus. In this case > >> Venus will be the dispositor of the Sun. No > planet > >> which is in a non- > >> mooltrikona sign will have a dispositor i.e. the > >> planet(s) in Taurus, > >> Gemini, Scorpio, Capricorn and Pisces have no > >> dispositor. If a planet is > >> posited in Aries, its dispositor would be Mars; > if a > >> planet is posited in > >> Cancer, its dispositor would be the Moon; if a > >> planet is posited in Leo, its > >> dispositor would be the Sun; if a planet is > posited > >> in Virgo, its dispositor > >> would be Mercury; if a planet is posited in > Libra, > >> its dispositor would be > >> Venus; if a planet is posited in Sagittarius, its > >> dispositor would be > >> Jupiter; and if a planet is posited in Aquarius, > its > >> dispositor would be > >> Saturn. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I'm just trying to guage the extent of impact > >> here......... > >> > > >> > Thanks in advance, > >> > Regards, > >> > PNR > >> > > >> > , <siha> > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Hello PNR, > >> >> > >> >> Your reference is about the lord of an > afflicted > >> MT house. Yes > >> > this will > >> >> carry the impact of the afflction to another > >> planet with which it > >> > is in > >> >> close conjunction. > >> >> > >> >> And in such a case the mutual > aspect/conjunction > >> of two FBs would > >> > not be so > >> >> beneficial. > >> >> > >> >> Best wishes, > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> - > >> >> " pnr312 " <pnr312> > >> >> > >> >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:23 AM > >> >> Re: The Importance of > >> Dispositor > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Respected Professor and Amit, > >> >> > >> >> I would like to clarify here a point about > >> dispositors; > >> >> > >> >> If say a MT house is afflicted by an FM > closely > >> and if the > >> >> dispositor (Lord) of such a house is well > placed > >> and in close > >> > conjunction > >> >> with another FB would the dispositor (Lord) > carry > >> the impact of the > >> >> affliction such that it would weaken the > >> functioning of the other > >> > FB > >> >> to a certain extent? > >> >> So in such a case the mutual aspect of two FBs > >> would not be so > >> >> beneficial? > >> >> > >> >> Thanks and Regards, > >> >> PNR > === message truncated === FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase. 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Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hello Venu, http://www.yournetastrologer.com/theory/t18.htm Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122101 (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 - " Venugopal V " <venuvenky Wednesday, November 16, 2005 12:52 PM Re: Re: The Importance of Dispositor > Thanks prof for the clarification. > > One other ambiguous part has been study of combustion > effects. > I could get very clear information about the distance > from Sun for combustion to be valid. But the effects > part is not clear. > > I saw your basic tutorial mentioning that if Sun is a > malefic, then combustion is harmful. What if it is > benefic in the chart? > > Is there a pointer to information about exact impact > of combustion effects on each planet like Mercury, > Venus, Mars, Moon, Jupiter, Saturn. In the case of > Moon i think there is > some concept of " New " also. > > Thanks & Regards, > Venu > > --- siha wrote: > >> >> Hello Venu, >> >> Where there is no MT sign in a house other house >> related with the subject >> are analysed. For status one should see the tenth >> house. For marriage and >> marital relationship one should see the seventh and >> fourth houses. For >> wealth one should see the eleventh house and fifth >> house. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> - >> " Venugopal V " <venuvenky >> >> Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:35 AM >> Re: Re: The Importance of >> Dispositor >> >> >> > Hello Prof, >> > >> > I understand the dipositor theory from this >> message >> > below. >> > Also I understand the MEP and MMP, Aspects and >> > transits. >> > >> > I observe that in many cases, the non mooltrikona >> > houses like scorpio there is no aspect and there >> is no >> > planet placed there either. I take my own chart as >> > example for this. >> > >> > DOB:- 7th feb 1978, 00:25:00 , Bangalore city. >> > >> > I find the second house (scorpio in this case) has >> no >> > aspect from the planets or nodes, no planets >> placed in >> > it and it is non mool trikona. This being second >> house >> > in this chart it holds lot of importance. But i do >> not >> > understand how to make any interpretations for the >> > significations of this house. >> > >> > Would appreciate some help related to this. >> > >> > Thanks & Regards, >> > Venu >> > >> > --- siha wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Hello PNR, >> >> >> >> I add my replies in capitals to your message. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> " pnr312 " <pnr312 >> >> >> >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:55 AM >> >> Re: The Importance of >> Dispositor >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Dear Sir, >> >> > >> >> > Thanks for the clarification. >> >> > >> >> > I thought that a dispositor always implies the >> >> lord of an MT house >> >> > so I skipped it but yes thats what I meant. >> >> > >> >> >> >> > So would the dispositor influence the other >> planet >> >> enough to not be >> >> > able to protect its general and particular >> >> significations? By >> >> > particular I mean the other planet's MT >> >> significations? >> >> >> >> YES. YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE TERMINOLOGY >> CORRECTLY. >> >> >> >> DISPOSITOR >> >> >> >> According to the Systems' Approach, the >> dispositor >> >> is a planet in whose >> >> mooltrikona sign another planet is located in the >> >> natal chart. Suppose in a >> >> natal chart the Sun is placed in the sign Libra >> >> ruled by Venus. In this case >> >> Venus will be the dispositor of the Sun. No >> planet >> >> which is in a non- >> >> mooltrikona sign will have a dispositor i.e. the >> >> planet(s) in Taurus, >> >> Gemini, Scorpio, Capricorn and Pisces have no >> >> dispositor. If a planet is >> >> posited in Aries, its dispositor would be Mars; >> if a >> >> planet is posited in >> >> Cancer, its dispositor would be the Moon; if a >> >> planet is posited in Leo, its >> >> dispositor would be the Sun; if a planet is >> posited >> >> in Virgo, its dispositor >> >> would be Mercury; if a planet is posited in >> Libra, >> >> its dispositor would be >> >> Venus; if a planet is posited in Sagittarius, its >> >> dispositor would be >> >> Jupiter; and if a planet is posited in Aquarius, >> its >> >> dispositor would be >> >> Saturn. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'm just trying to guage the extent of impact >> >> here......... >> >> > >> >> > Thanks in advance, >> >> > Regards, >> >> > PNR >> >> > >> >> > , <siha> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello PNR, >> >> >> >> >> >> Your reference is about the lord of an >> afflicted >> >> MT house. Yes >> >> > this will >> >> >> carry the impact of the afflction to another >> >> planet with which it >> >> > is in >> >> >> close conjunction. >> >> >> >> >> >> And in such a case the mutual >> aspect/conjunction >> >> of two FBs would >> >> > not be so >> >> >> beneficial. >> >> >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> >> " pnr312 " <pnr312> >> >> >> >> >> >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:23 AM >> >> >> Re: The Importance of >> >> Dispositor >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Respected Professor and Amit, >> >> >> >> >> >> I would like to clarify here a point about >> >> dispositors; >> >> >> >> >> >> If say a MT house is afflicted by an FM >> closely >> >> and if the >> >> >> dispositor (Lord) of such a house is well >> placed >> >> and in close >> >> > conjunction >> >> >> with another FB would the dispositor (Lord) >> carry >> >> the impact of the >> >> >> affliction such that it would weaken the >> >> functioning of the other >> >> > FB >> >> >> to a certain extent? >> >> >> So in such a case the mutual aspect of two FBs >> >> would not be so >> >> >> beneficial? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> >> >> PNR >> > === message truncated === > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Dear Professor, One clarification here. I understand that in this case the second house will still be house of status but the primary significator planet shall be determined from 10th house since second house does not have an owner. So lord of 10th will be the primary significator for status, but good / bad transits on second house will still affect the status and other second house related factors. And since second house is not afflicted, it will be considered strong since non-MT houses if not afflicted are considered strong. Am I correct? regards On 11/15/05, siha <siha wrote: > > > Hello Venu, > > Where there is no MT sign in a house other house related with the subject > are analysed. For status one should see the tenth house. For marriage and > marital relationship one should see the seventh and fourth houses. For > wealth one should see the eleventh house and fifth house. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > " Venugopal V " <venuvenky > > Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:35 AM > Re: Re: The Importance of Dispositor > > > > Hello Prof, > > > > I understand the dipositor theory from this message > > below. > > Also I understand the MEP and MMP, Aspects and > > transits. > > > > I observe that in many cases, the non mooltrikona > > houses like scorpio there is no aspect and there is no > > planet placed there either. I take my own chart as > > example for this. > > > > DOB:- 7th feb 1978, 00:25:00 , Bangalore city. > > > > I find the second house (scorpio in this case) has no > > aspect from the planets or nodes, no planets placed in > > it and it is non mool trikona. This being second house > > in this chart it holds lot of importance. But i do not > > understand how to make any interpretations for the > > significations of this house. > > > > Would appreciate some help related to this. > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Venu > > > > --- siha wrote: > > > >> > >> Hello PNR, > >> > >> I add my replies in capitals to your message. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> " pnr312 " <pnr312 > >> > >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:55 AM > >> Re: The Importance of Dispositor > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Dear Sir, > >> > > >> > Thanks for the clarification. > >> > > >> > I thought that a dispositor always implies the > >> lord of an MT house > >> > so I skipped it but yes thats what I meant. > >> > > >> > >> > So would the dispositor influence the other planet > >> enough to not be > >> > able to protect its general and particular > >> significations? By > >> > particular I mean the other planet's MT > >> significations? > >> > >> YES. YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE TERMINOLOGY CORRECTLY. > >> > >> DISPOSITOR > >> > >> According to the Systems' Approach, the dispositor > >> is a planet in whose > >> mooltrikona sign another planet is located in the > >> natal chart. Suppose in a > >> natal chart the Sun is placed in the sign Libra > >> ruled by Venus. In this case > >> Venus will be the dispositor of the Sun. No planet > >> which is in a non- > >> mooltrikona sign will have a dispositor i.e. the > >> planet(s) in Taurus, > >> Gemini, Scorpio, Capricorn and Pisces have no > >> dispositor. If a planet is > >> posited in Aries, its dispositor would be Mars; if a > >> planet is posited in > >> Cancer, its dispositor would be the Moon; if a > >> planet is posited in Leo, its > >> dispositor would be the Sun; if a planet is posited > >> in Virgo, its dispositor > >> would be Mercury; if a planet is posited in Libra, > >> its dispositor would be > >> Venus; if a planet is posited in Sagittarius, its > >> dispositor would be > >> Jupiter; and if a planet is posited in Aquarius, its > >> dispositor would be > >> Saturn. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > I'm just trying to guage the extent of impact > >> here......... > >> > > >> > Thanks in advance, > >> > Regards, > >> > PNR > >> > > >> > , <siha> > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Hello PNR, > >> >> > >> >> Your reference is about the lord of an afflicted > >> MT house. Yes > >> > this will > >> >> carry the impact of the afflction to another > >> planet with which it > >> > is in > >> >> close conjunction. > >> >> > >> >> And in such a case the mutual aspect/conjunction > >> of two FBs would > >> > not be so > >> >> beneficial. > >> >> > >> >> Best wishes, > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> - > >> >> " pnr312 " <pnr312> > >> >> > >> >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:23 AM > >> >> Re: The Importance of > >> Dispositor > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Respected Professor and Amit, > >> >> > >> >> I would like to clarify here a point about > >> dispositors; > >> >> > >> >> If say a MT house is afflicted by an FM closely > >> and if the > >> >> dispositor (Lord) of such a house is well placed > >> and in close > >> > conjunction > >> >> with another FB would the dispositor (Lord) carry > >> the impact of the > >> >> affliction such that it would weaken the > >> functioning of the other > >> > FB > >> >> to a certain extent? > >> >> So in such a case the mutual aspect of two FBs > >> would not be so > >> >> beneficial? > >> >> > >> >> Thanks and Regards, > >> >> PNR > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> , " amit_patnaik6 " > >> >> <amit_patnaik6> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Dear List Members, > >> >> > > >> >> > Below is the chart of a lady who approached me > >> , with only one > >> >> > question, can I divorce my husband, that's the > >> only information I > >> >> > have about her, I will be meeting her today to > >> discuss more with > >> >> her > >> >> > about her martial life. > >> >> > > >> >> > 24th July 1974, 11:42 PM, 80E37, 16N31, India. > >> >> > > >> >> > A first look at the chart shows some promise as > >> Venus the 7th > >> > lord > >> >> is > >> >> > sitting strong unafflicted in the 3rd, > >> virtually no Weakness in > >> > D9 > >> >> > On the negative side 4th lord moon is in the > >> 6th house hence > >> >> domestic > >> >> > front faces disputive situations, Moon in D9 is > >> placed in its own > >> >> MT > >> >> > house a very minor advantage. > >> >> > There apparently seems to be a balance with a > >> Strong Venus as > >> >> > protector and Weak Moon causing suffering, some > >> might say why not > >> >> > consider Mercury's affliction to Saturn, some > >> might answer.. as > >> >> > Saturn is the 11th lord and not a Marital > >> Signifactor. > >> >> > But here is what matters. > >> >> > > >> >> > The Signifactor for husband Jupiter is in the > >> 11th well placed > >> > but > >> >> > its dispositor is closely afflicted by the 6th > >> lord, another > >> >> > signifactor for husband Sun is very well placed > >> in the 4th close > >> >> to > >> >> > MEP but its dispositor is again in the 6th > >> house, Prime > >> >> Signifactor > >> >> > for husband 7th lord Venus is well placed, it > >> seems the husband > >> > of > >> >> > the lady is not the major contributor to the > >> issues at the > >> >> domestic > >> >> > front. > >> >> > > >> >> > The lady has Mars ruling self well placed in > >> the 5th but its > >> >> > dispositor Sun(emotions, mental inclination) is > >> weak due to Moon > >> >> in > >> >> > the 6th and thus Mars ruling self also shows > >> the same trend, the > >> >> 11th > >> >> > lord for the lady is closely afflicted by 6th > >> lord mercury > >> >> > debilitated in D9 which largely reflects on her > >> ability > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > > http://farechase. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Hello dear Rajeev, I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes, - " Rajeev Bharol " <rajeev.bharol Thursday, November 17, 2005 1:03 AM Re: Re: The Importance of Dispositor > Dear Professor, > One clarification here. > > I understand that in this case the second house will still be house of > status but the > primary significator planet shall be determined from 10th house since > second > house > does not have an owner. So lord of 10th will be the primary significator > for > status, > but good / bad transits on second house will still affect the status and > other second house > related factors. RIGHT. > And since second house is not afflicted, it will be considered strong > since > non-MT houses > if not afflicted are considered strong. > > Am I correct? 1. NATAL UNAFFLICTED HOUSE IS VULNERABLE TO TRANSIT AFFLICTIONS. 2. THE STRENGTH OF THE HOUSE IS IDENTIFIED FROM ITS LORD. SINCE MT SIGN HAS NO LORD SO IT IS NEITHER CONSIDERED STRONG NOR WEAK. 3. FOR A PARTICULAR SIGNIFICATION THE ALTERNATE PRIME SIGNIFICATOR AND ITS HOUSE TAKE PRECEDENCE IN THE MATTER OF STRENGTH. > regards > > > On 11/15/05, siha <siha > wrote: >> >> >> Hello Venu, >> >> Where there is no MT sign in a house other house related with the subject >> are analysed. For status one should see the tenth house. For marriage and >> marital relationship one should see the seventh and fourth houses. For >> wealth one should see the eleventh house and fifth house. >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> - >> " Venugopal V " <venuvenky >> >> Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:35 AM >> Re: Re: The Importance of Dispositor >> >> >> > Hello Prof, >> > >> > I understand the dipositor theory from this message >> > below. >> > Also I understand the MEP and MMP, Aspects and >> > transits. >> > >> > I observe that in many cases, the non mooltrikona >> > houses like scorpio there is no aspect and there is no >> > planet placed there either. I take my own chart as >> > example for this. >> > >> > DOB:- 7th feb 1978, 00:25:00 , Bangalore city. >> > >> > I find the second house (scorpio in this case) has no >> > aspect from the planets or nodes, no planets placed in >> > it and it is non mool trikona. This being second house >> > in this chart it holds lot of importance. But i do not >> > understand how to make any interpretations for the >> > significations of this house. >> > >> > Would appreciate some help related to this. >> > >> > Thanks & Regards, >> > Venu >> > >> > --- siha wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Hello PNR, >> >> >> >> I add my replies in capitals to your message. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> " pnr312 " <pnr312 >> >> >> >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:55 AM >> >> Re: The Importance of Dispositor >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Dear Sir, >> >> > >> >> > Thanks for the clarification. >> >> > >> >> > I thought that a dispositor always implies the >> >> lord of an MT house >> >> > so I skipped it but yes thats what I meant. >> >> > >> >> >> >> > So would the dispositor influence the other planet >> >> enough to not be >> >> > able to protect its general and particular >> >> significations? By >> >> > particular I mean the other planet's MT >> >> significations? >> >> >> >> YES. YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE TERMINOLOGY CORRECTLY. >> >> >> >> DISPOSITOR >> >> >> >> According to the Systems' Approach, the dispositor >> >> is a planet in whose >> >> mooltrikona sign another planet is located in the >> >> natal chart. Suppose in a >> >> natal chart the Sun is placed in the sign Libra >> >> ruled by Venus. In this case >> >> Venus will be the dispositor of the Sun. No planet >> >> which is in a non- >> >> mooltrikona sign will have a dispositor i.e. the >> >> planet(s) in Taurus, >> >> Gemini, Scorpio, Capricorn and Pisces have no >> >> dispositor. If a planet is >> >> posited in Aries, its dispositor would be Mars; if a >> >> planet is posited in >> >> Cancer, its dispositor would be the Moon; if a >> >> planet is posited in Leo, its >> >> dispositor would be the Sun; if a planet is posited >> >> in Virgo, its dispositor >> >> would be Mercury; if a planet is posited in Libra, >> >> its dispositor would be >> >> Venus; if a planet is posited in Sagittarius, its >> >> dispositor would be >> >> Jupiter; and if a planet is posited in Aquarius, its >> >> dispositor would be >> >> Saturn. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > I'm just trying to guage the extent of impact >> >> here......... >> >> > >> >> > Thanks in advance, >> >> > Regards, >> >> > PNR >> >> > >> >> > , <siha> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Hello PNR, >> >> >> >> >> >> Your reference is about the lord of an afflicted >> >> MT house. Yes >> >> > this will >> >> >> carry the impact of the afflction to another >> >> planet with which it >> >> > is in >> >> >> close conjunction. >> >> >> >> >> >> And in such a case the mutual aspect/conjunction >> >> of two FBs would >> >> > not be so >> >> >> beneficial. >> >> >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> - >> >> >> " pnr312 " <pnr312> >> >> >> >> >> >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:23 AM >> >> >> Re: The Importance of >> >> Dispositor >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Respected Professor and Amit, >> >> >> >> >> >> I would like to clarify here a point about >> >> dispositors; >> >> >> >> >> >> If say a MT house is afflicted by an FM closely >> >> and if the >> >> >> dispositor (Lord) of such a house is well placed >> >> and in close >> >> > conjunction >> >> >> with another FB would the dispositor (Lord) carry >> >> the impact of the >> >> >> affliction such that it would weaken the >> >> functioning of the other >> >> > FB >> >> >> to a certain extent? >> >> >> So in such a case the mutual aspect of two FBs >> >> would not be so >> >> >> beneficial? >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks and Regards, >> >> >> PNR >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> , " amit_patnaik6 " >> >> >> <amit_patnaik6> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Dear List Members, >> >> >> > >> >> >> > Below is the chart of a lady who approached me >> >> , with only one >> >> >> > question, can I divorce my husband, that's the >> >> only information I >> >> >> > have about her, I will be meeting her today to >> >> discuss more with >> >> >> her >> >> >> > about her martial life. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > 24th July 1974, 11:42 PM, 80E37, 16N31, India. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > A first look at the chart shows some promise as >> >> Venus the 7th >> >> > lord >> >> >> is >> >> >> > sitting strong unafflicted in the 3rd, >> >> virtually no Weakness in >> >> > D9 >> >> >> > On the negative side 4th lord moon is in the >> >> 6th house hence >> >> >> domestic >> >> >> > front faces disputive situations, Moon in D9 is >> >> placed in its own >> >> >> MT >> >> >> > house a very minor advantage. >> >> >> > There apparently seems to be a balance with a >> >> Strong Venus as >> >> >> > protector and Weak Moon causing suffering, some >> >> might say why not >> >> >> > consider Mercury's affliction to Saturn, some >> >> might answer.. as >> >> >> > Saturn is the 11th lord and not a Marital >> >> Signifactor. >> >> >> > But here is what matters. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The Signifactor for husband Jupiter is in the >> >> 11th well placed >> >> > but >> >> >> > its dispositor is closely afflicted by the 6th >> >> lord, another >> >> >> > signifactor for husband Sun is very well placed >> >> in the 4th close >> >> >> to >> >> >> > MEP but its dispositor is again in the 6th >> >> house, Prime >> >> >> Signifactor >> >> >> > for husband 7th lord Venus is well placed, it >> >> seems the husband >> >> > of >> >> >> > the lady is not the major contributor to the >> >> issues at the >> >> >> domestic >> >> >> > front. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The lady has Mars ruling self well placed in >> >> the 5th but its >> >> >> > dispositor Sun(emotions, mental inclination) is >> >> weak due to Moon >> >> >> in >> >> >> > the 6th and thus Mars ruling self also shows >> >> the same trend, the >> >> >> 11th >> >> >> > lord for the lady is closely afflicted by 6th >> >> lord mercury >> >> >> > debilitated in D9 which largely reflects on her >> >> ability >> > === message truncated === >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. >> > http://farechase. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Thanks a lot dear professor. regards On 11/16/05, siha <siha wrote: > > > Hello dear Rajeev, > > I add my replies/comments to your questions in your message appended > below. > > Best wishes, > > > > > - > Wrom: > QZAAFXISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGGMEPYOQKEDOTW\ FAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNSKVFVWRKJVZCMHVIBGDADRZFSQHY\ UCDDJBL > > Thursday, November 17, 2005 1:03 AM > Re: Re: The Importance of Dispositor > > > > Dear Professor, > > One clarification here. > > > > I understand that in this case the second house will still be house of > > status but the > > primary significator planet shall be determined from 10th house since > > second > > house > > does not have an owner. So lord of 10th will be the primary significator > > > for > > status, > > but good / bad transits on second house will still affect the status and > > other second house > > related factors. > > RIGHT. > > > And since second house is not afflicted, it will be considered strong > > since > > non-MT houses > > if not afflicted are considered strong. > > > > Am I correct? > > 1. NATAL UNAFFLICTED HOUSE IS VULNERABLE TO TRANSIT AFFLICTIONS. > > 2. THE STRENGTH OF THE HOUSE IS IDENTIFIED FROM ITS LORD. SINCE MT SIGN > HAS > NO LORD SO IT IS NEITHER CONSIDERED STRONG NOR WEAK. > > 3. FOR A PARTICULAR SIGNIFICATION THE ALTERNATE PRIME SIGNIFICATOR AND ITS > > HOUSE TAKE PRECEDENCE IN THE MATTER OF STRENGTH. > > > regards > > > > > > On 11/15/05, siha <siha > > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hello Venu, > >> > >> Where there is no MT sign in a house other house related with the > subject > >> are analysed. For status one should see the tenth house. For marriage > and > >> marital relationship one should see the seventh and fourth houses. For > >> wealth one should see the eleventh house and fifth house. > >> > >> Best wishes, > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> - > >> Wrom: > VLMHAALPTCXLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCLBDXRQBGJSNBOHMKHJYFMYXOEAIJJPHSCRTNHGSWZIDREXCA\ XZOWCONEUQZAAFXISHJEXXIMQZUIVOTQNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDGVCJVTLBXFGG > >> > >> Wednesday, November 16, 2005 11:35 AM > >> Re: Re: The Importance of Dispositor > >> > >> > >> > Hello Prof, > >> > > >> > I understand the dipositor theory from this message > >> > below. > >> > Also I understand the MEP and MMP, Aspects and > >> > transits. > >> > > >> > I observe that in many cases, the non mooltrikona > >> > houses like scorpio there is no aspect and there is no > >> > planet placed there either. I take my own chart as > >> > example for this. > >> > > >> > DOB:- 7th feb 1978, 00:25:00 , Bangalore city. > >> > > >> > I find the second house (scorpio in this case) has no > >> > aspect from the planets or nodes, no planets placed in > >> > it and it is non mool trikona. This being second house > >> > in this chart it holds lot of importance. But i do not > >> > understand how to make any interpretations for the > >> > significations of this house. > >> > > >> > Would appreciate some help related to this. > >> > > >> > Thanks & Regards, > >> > Venu > >> > > >> > --- siha wrote: > >> > > >> >> > >> >> Hello PNR, > >> >> > >> >> I add my replies in capitals to your message. > >> >> > >> >> Best wishes, > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> - > >> >> " pnr312 " <pnr312 > >> >> > >> >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 1:55 AM > >> >> Re: The Importance of Dispositor > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > Dear Sir, > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks for the clarification. > >> >> > > >> >> > I thought that a dispositor always implies the > >> >> lord of an MT house > >> >> > so I skipped it but yes thats what I meant. > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > So would the dispositor influence the other planet > >> >> enough to not be > >> >> > able to protect its general and particular > >> >> significations? By > >> >> > particular I mean the other planet's MT > >> >> significations? > >> >> > >> >> YES. YOU MUST UNDERSTAND THE TERMINOLOGY CORRECTLY. > >> >> > >> >> DISPOSITOR > >> >> > >> >> According to the Systems' Approach, the dispositor > >> >> is a planet in whose > >> >> mooltrikona sign another planet is located in the > >> >> natal chart. Suppose in a > >> >> natal chart the Sun is placed in the sign Libra > >> >> ruled by Venus. In this case > >> >> Venus will be the dispositor of the Sun. No planet > >> >> which is in a non- > >> >> mooltrikona sign will have a dispositor i.e. the > >> >> planet(s) in Taurus, > >> >> Gemini, Scorpio, Capricorn and Pisces have no > >> >> dispositor. If a planet is > >> >> posited in Aries, its dispositor would be Mars; if a > >> >> planet is posited in > >> >> Cancer, its dispositor would be the Moon; if a > >> >> planet is posited in Leo, its > >> >> dispositor would be the Sun; if a planet is posited > >> >> in Virgo, its dispositor > >> >> would be Mercury; if a planet is posited in Libra, > >> >> its dispositor would be > >> >> Venus; if a planet is posited in Sagittarius, its > >> >> dispositor would be > >> >> Jupiter; and if a planet is posited in Aquarius, its > >> >> dispositor would be > >> >> Saturn. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I'm just trying to guage the extent of impact > >> >> here......... > >> >> > > >> >> > Thanks in advance, > >> >> > Regards, > >> >> > PNR > >> >> > > >> >> > , <siha> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Hello PNR, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Your reference is about the lord of an afflicted > >> >> MT house. Yes > >> >> > this will > >> >> >> carry the impact of the afflction to another > >> >> planet with which it > >> >> > is in > >> >> >> close conjunction. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> And in such a case the mutual aspect/conjunction > >> >> of two FBs would > >> >> > not be so > >> >> >> beneficial. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Best wishes, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> - > >> >> >> " pnr312 " <pnr312> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Wednesday, October 12, 2005 12:23 AM > >> >> >> Re: The Importance of > >> >> Dispositor > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Respected Professor and Amit, > >> >> >> > >> >> >> I would like to clarify here a point about > >> >> dispositors; > >> >> >> > >> >> >> If say a MT house is afflicted by an FM closely > >> >> and if the > >> >> >> dispositor (Lord) of such a house is well placed > >> >> and in close > >> >> > conjunction > >> >> >> with another FB would the dispositor (Lord) carry > >> >> the impact of the > >> >> >> affliction such that it would weaken the > >> >> functioning of the other > >> >> > FB > >> >> >> to a certain extent? > >> >> >> So in such a case the mutual aspect of two FBs > >> >> would not be so > >> >> >> beneficial? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Thanks and Regards, > >> >> >> PNR > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> , " amit_patnaik6 " > >> >> >> <amit_patnaik6> wrote: > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Dear List Members, > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Below is the chart of a lady who approached me > >> >> , with only one > >> >> >> > question, can I divorce my husband, that's the > >> >> only information I > >> >> >> > have about her, I will be meeting her today to > >> >> discuss more with > >> >> >> her > >> >> >> > about her martial life. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > 24th July 1974, 11:42 PM, 80E37, 16N31, India. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > A first look at the chart shows some promise as > >> >> Venus the 7th > >> >> > lord > >> >> >> is > >> >> >> > sitting strong unafflicted in the 3rd, > >> >> virtually no Weakness in > >> >> > D9 > >> >> >> > On the negative side 4th lord moon is in the > >> >> 6th house hence > >> >> >> domestic > >> >> >> > front faces disputive situations, Moon in D9 is > >> >> placed in its own > >> >> >> MT > >> >> >> > house a very minor advantage. > >> >> >> > There apparently seems to be a balance with a > >> >> Strong Venus as > >> >> >> > protector and Weak Moon causing suffering, some > >> >> might say why not > >> >> >> > consider Mercury's affliction to Saturn, some > >> >> might answer.. as > >> >> >> > Saturn is the 11th lord and not a Marital > >> >> Signifactor. > >> >> >> > But here is what matters. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > The Signifactor for husband Jupiter is in the > >> >> 11th well placed > >> >> > but > >> >> >> > its dispositor is closely afflicted by the 6th > >> >> lord, another > >> >> >> > signifactor for husband Sun is very well placed > >> >> in the 4th close > >> >> >> to > >> >> >> > MEP but its dispositor is again in the 6th > >> >> house, Prime > >> >> >> Signifactor > >> >> >> > for husband 7th lord Venus is well placed, it > >> >> seems the husband > >> >> > of > >> >> >> > the lady is not the major contributor to the > >> >> issues at the > >> >> >> domestic > >> >> >> > front. > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > The lady has Mars ruling self well placed in > >> >> the 5th but its > >> >> >> > dispositor Sun(emotions, mental inclination) is > >> >> weak due to Moon > >> >> >> in > >> >> >> > the 6th and thus Mars ruling self also shows > >> >> the same trend, the > >> >> >> 11th > >> >> >> > lord for the lady is closely afflicted by 6th > >> >> lord mercury > >> >> >> > debilitated in D9 which largely reflects on her > >> >> ability > >> > === message truncated === > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > >> > http://farechase. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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