Guest guest Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 Hello Ryan, I think the Sun is considered weak because of being in old age, but retains some strenght because of its placement in its own house. The Sun is thus able to promote to some extent the significations of this moolatrikona house and as per its nature. With kind regards, Jean - " Ryan Rocheleau " <eleblanc1982 Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:03 PM Weaknesses vs. Strengths in Rasi > Something is confusing me terribly. > > In the Self Learning Course in Astrology a whole bunch > of factors are listed that make a planet weak, ie > combustion, being in a malefic house, debility in > navamsa, being under 5 degrees and over 25 degrees > etc. > > On the following page there are a list of factors that > can make a planet stronger: being between 10-20 > degrees, being in a sign of dignity etc. > > What I would like to know, is which would take > precedence, strengths or weaknesses, if both > conditions are present in a planet... eg would the sun > be weak if it were 28 degrees Leo? > > Ryan > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 15, 2005 Report Share Posted October 15, 2005 So planets can't really be understood in black and white terms of weak or strong, I guess. Each individual planet then may be a mixture of strength and weakness? --- Jean Bianchi <jeanbianchi wrote: > Hello Ryan, > > I think the Sun is considered weak because of being > in old age, > but retains some strenght because of its placement > in its own house. > The Sun is thus able to promote to some extent the > significations of this > moolatrikona house and as per its nature. > > With kind regards, > > Jean > > > - > " Ryan Rocheleau " <eleblanc1982 > > Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:03 PM > Weaknesses vs. Strengths in Rasi > > > > Something is confusing me terribly. > > > > In the Self Learning Course in Astrology a whole > bunch > > of factors are listed that make a planet weak, ie > > combustion, being in a malefic house, debility in > > navamsa, being under 5 degrees and over 25 degrees > > etc. > > > > On the following page there are a list of factors > that > > can make a planet stronger: being between 10-20 > > degrees, being in a sign of dignity etc. > > > > What I would like to know, is which would take > > precedence, strengths or weaknesses, if both > > conditions are present in a planet... eg would the > sun > > be weak if it were 28 degrees Leo? > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Hi Ryan, it is always weak. I was also confused at first by similar things. I have already queried the professor regarding my Moon that is exalted and in the benefic 5th house but in the very early degrees of Taurus and the professor said it was weak. On a personal note, I would suggest we should not measure the strenght of planets by looking at the Rasi chart only. I believe the Navamsa chart was created, among many other reasons, for double checking strenght. Regards, Rui. --- Ryan Rocheleau <eleblanc1982 wrote: > So planets can't really be understood in black and > white terms of weak or strong, I guess. Each > individual planet then may be a mixture of strength > and weakness? > > --- Jean Bianchi <jeanbianchi wrote: > > > Hello Ryan, > > > > I think the Sun is considered weak because of being > > in old age, > > but retains some strenght because of its placement > > in its own house. > > The Sun is thus able to promote to some extent the > > significations of this > > moolatrikona house and as per its nature. > > > > With kind regards, > > > > Jean > > > > > > - > > " Ryan Rocheleau " <eleblanc1982 > > > > Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:03 PM > > Weaknesses vs. Strengths in Rasi > > > > > > > Something is confusing me terribly. > > > > > > In the Self Learning Course in Astrology a whole > > bunch > > > of factors are listed that make a planet weak, ie > > > combustion, being in a malefic house, debility in > > > navamsa, being under 5 degrees and over 25 degrees > > > etc. > > > > > > On the following page there are a list of factors > > that > > > can make a planet stronger: being between 10-20 > > > degrees, being in a sign of dignity etc. > > > > > > What I would like to know, is which would take > > > precedence, strengths or weaknesses, if both > > > conditions are present in a planet... eg would the > > sun > > > be weak if it were 28 degrees Leo? > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Hello Ryan, My understanding is that in some cases a planet can be strong on all accounts. In your exemple, the Sun was in old age, but at the same time was in his own moolatrikona sign Leo. If, the Sun had been, let's say, at 18 degrees, and not afflicted by a FM it would have been considered strong only. Each planet must be examined individually with the help of the different points that you read in Professor book. With best regards, Jean - " Ryan Rocheleau " <eleblanc1982 Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:25 PM Re: Weaknesses vs. Strengths in Rasi > So planets can't really be understood in black and > white terms of weak or strong, I guess. Each > individual planet then may be a mixture of strength > and weakness? > > --- Jean Bianchi <jeanbianchi wrote: > > > Hello Ryan, > > > > I think the Sun is considered weak because of being > > in old age, > > but retains some strenght because of its placement > > in its own house. > > The Sun is thus able to promote to some extent the > > significations of this > > moolatrikona house and as per its nature. > > > > With kind regards, > > > > Jean > > > > > > - > > " Ryan Rocheleau " <eleblanc1982 > > > > Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:03 PM > > Weaknesses vs. Strengths in Rasi > > > > > > > Something is confusing me terribly. > > > > > > In the Self Learning Course in Astrology a whole > > bunch > > > of factors are listed that make a planet weak, ie > > > combustion, being in a malefic house, debility in > > > navamsa, being under 5 degrees and over 25 degrees > > > etc. > > > > > > On the following page there are a list of factors > > that > > > can make a planet stronger: being between 10-20 > > > degrees, being in a sign of dignity etc. > > > > > > What I would like to know, is which would take > > > precedence, strengths or weaknesses, if both > > > conditions are present in a planet... eg would the > > sun > > > be weak if it were 28 degrees Leo? > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Thank you so much for clarifying. I find something else a bit confusing though. I have 9 charts of friends and family members, and all of them have mostly weak planets, and while each of them is struggling with 2 or 3 things in their lives, their lives are mostly normal. How can this be? Do afflictions only manifest during dasha periods? Ryan --- RPM <rupamede wrote: > Hi Ryan, it is always weak. > I was also confused at first by similar things. I > have already queried the professor regarding my > Moon that is exalted and in the benefic 5th house > but in the very early degrees of Taurus and the > professor said it was weak. > On a personal note, I would suggest we should not > measure the strenght of planets by looking at > the Rasi chart only. I believe the Navamsa chart was > created, among many other reasons, for double > checking strenght. > Regards, Rui. > > --- Ryan Rocheleau <eleblanc1982 wrote: > > > So planets can't really be understood in black and > > white terms of weak or strong, I guess. Each > > individual planet then may be a mixture of > strength > > and weakness? > > > > --- Jean Bianchi <jeanbianchi wrote: > > > > > Hello Ryan, > > > > > > I think the Sun is considered weak because of > being > > > in old age, > > > but retains some strenght because of its > placement > > > in its own house. > > > The Sun is thus able to promote to some extent > the > > > significations of this > > > moolatrikona house and as per its nature. > > > > > > With kind regards, > > > > > > Jean > > > > > > > > > - > > > " Ryan Rocheleau " <eleblanc1982 > > > > > > Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:03 PM > > > Weaknesses vs. Strengths in > Rasi > > > > > > > > > > Something is confusing me terribly. > > > > > > > > In the Self Learning Course in Astrology a > whole > > > bunch > > > > of factors are listed that make a planet weak, > ie > > > > combustion, being in a malefic house, debility > in > > > > navamsa, being under 5 degrees and over 25 > degrees > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > On the following page there are a list of > factors > > > that > > > > can make a planet stronger: being between > 10-20 > > > > degrees, being in a sign of dignity etc. > > > > > > > > What I would like to know, is which would take > > > > precedence, strengths or weaknesses, if both > > > > conditions are present in a planet... eg would > the > > > sun > > > > be weak if it were 28 degrees Leo? > > > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2005 Report Share Posted October 16, 2005 Case in point, I don't have a single unafflicted planet in my own chart: Sun is weak in navamsa, moon is also, Mercury is combust, so is venus, Mars is in old age, jupiter is combust, saturn is in infancy, rahu and ketu are in malefic houses... what's left? Ryan --- Ryan Rocheleau <eleblanc1982 wrote: > Thank you so much for clarifying. I find something > else a bit confusing though. I have 9 charts of > friends and family members, and all of them have > mostly weak planets, and while each of them is > struggling with 2 or 3 things in their lives, their > lives are mostly normal. How can this be? Do > afflictions only manifest during dasha periods? > > Ryan > > --- RPM <rupamede wrote: > > > Hi Ryan, it is always weak. > > I was also confused at first by similar things. I > > have already queried the professor regarding my > > Moon that is exalted and in the benefic 5th house > > but in the very early degrees of Taurus and the > > professor said it was weak. > > On a personal note, I would suggest we should not > > measure the strenght of planets by looking at > > the Rasi chart only. I believe the Navamsa chart > was > > created, among many other reasons, for double > > checking strenght. > > Regards, Rui. > > > > --- Ryan Rocheleau <eleblanc1982 wrote: > > > > > So planets can't really be understood in black > and > > > white terms of weak or strong, I guess. Each > > > individual planet then may be a mixture of > > strength > > > and weakness? > > > > > > --- Jean Bianchi <jeanbianchi > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello Ryan, > > > > > > > > I think the Sun is considered weak because of > > being > > > > in old age, > > > > but retains some strenght because of its > > placement > > > > in its own house. > > > > The Sun is thus able to promote to some extent > > the > > > > significations of this > > > > moolatrikona house and as per its nature. > > > > > > > > With kind regards, > > > > > > > > Jean > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > " Ryan Rocheleau " > <eleblanc1982 > > > > > > > > Saturday, October 15, 2005 5:03 PM > > > > Weaknesses vs. Strengths > in > > Rasi > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something is confusing me terribly. > > > > > > > > > > In the Self Learning Course in Astrology a > > whole > > > > bunch > > > > > of factors are listed that make a planet > weak, > > ie > > > > > combustion, being in a malefic house, > debility > > in > > > > > navamsa, being under 5 degrees and over 25 > > degrees > > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > > > On the following page there are a list of > > factors > > > > that > > > > > can make a planet stronger: being between > > 10-20 > > > > > degrees, being in a sign of dignity etc. > > > > > > > > > > What I would like to know, is which would > take > > > > > precedence, strengths or weaknesses, if both > > > > > conditions are present in a planet... eg > would > > the > > > > sun > > > > > be weak if it were 28 degrees Leo? > > > > > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice > 2005 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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