Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 This question concerns a catch 22 situation in consideration of item (f). " > f) it occupies the mooltrikona sign of a weak planet. " Say for instance we have Li Asc with the MMP Me sitting in Libra on the MEP. In this case, Ve becomes weak, but also Me becomes weak because Ve is weak. So they are both weak on account of each other and mutually suffer? Which one takes the brunt of the beating, the benefic planet? Mathematical characterization of weakness will be very useful in this case. I'll propose something. If anyone has any suggestions, fire them off please. Best regards, Vyas Munidas SAMVA , <siha> wrote: > > > Hello dear list members, > > The descending order of weak planets was modified a few months back on my > website and it is as under: > > > > Weak Planets > > > A weak planet is not capable of fully protecting/promoting its general > significations and the significations of its mooltrikona sign house during > the course of its sub-periods and the transit malefic influences. Any planet > is considered weak if: > > a) it is combust due to its nearness to the Sun. > b) it occupies malefic houses from the ascendant except when in its own > moolatrikona sign. > c) it occupies its sign of debilitation. > d) it is in the state of infancy or old-age. > e) it occupies debilitated sign in navamsa. > f) it occupies the mooltrikona sign of a weak planet. > g) it is the Moon within 72 degrees either side of the Sun. > h) it is conjunct or aspected by any functional malefic planet within an orb > of one degree. > i) the most effective point of its house of placement is afflicted by a > functional malefic planet within an orb of one degree. > j) the most effective point of its moolatrikona sign is afflicted by a > functional malefic planet within an orb of one degree. > > DESCENDING ORDER OF WEAKNESS OF PLANETS IS: j), i), h), a), b), c), d), e), > f) and g). > > NOTE: when the exact affliction comes from: > 1) a conjunction with/ aspect from the MMP, > 2) an aspect from a FMP placed in a dusthana, > 3) a conjunction with Rahu or Ketu (Rahu-Ketu axis) > 4) an aspect of a FMP afflicted by other(s) FMP, > 5) more than one FMP at the same time, > > Then the otherwise " strong " planet should be considered afflicted (and weak) > even when the orb of affliction is of two degrees. > > > > Best wishes, > > > www.YourNetAstrologer.com > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122101 (India) > Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 > Mobile 98110 16333 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2005 Report Share Posted December 8, 2005 Hello dear list members, The descending order of weak planets was modified a few months back on my website and it is as under: Weak Planets A weak planet is not capable of fully protecting/promoting its general significations and the significations of its mooltrikona sign house during the course of its sub-periods and the transit malefic influences. Any planet is considered weak if: a) it is combust due to its nearness to the Sun. b) it occupies malefic houses from the ascendant except when in its own moolatrikona sign. c) it occupies its sign of debilitation. d) it is in the state of infancy or old-age. e) it occupies debilitated sign in navamsa. f) it occupies the mooltrikona sign of a weak planet. g) it is the Moon within 72 degrees either side of the Sun. h) it is conjunct or aspected by any functional malefic planet within an orb of one degree. i) the most effective point of its house of placement is afflicted by a functional malefic planet within an orb of one degree. j) the most effective point of its moolatrikona sign is afflicted by a functional malefic planet within an orb of one degree. DESCENDING ORDER OF WEAKNESS OF PLANETS IS: j), i), h), a), b), c), d), e), f) and g). NOTE: when the exact affliction comes from: 1) a conjunction with/ aspect from the MMP, 2) an aspect from a FMP placed in a dusthana, 3) a conjunction with Rahu or Ketu (Rahu-Ketu axis) 4) an aspect of a FMP afflicted by other(s) FMP, 5) more than one FMP at the same time, Then the otherwise " strong " planet should be considered afflicted (and weak) even when the orb of affliction is of two degrees. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122101 (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Dear professor, Just to make sure I have proper understanding - by " descending order " you mean the weakness is less as you work down the list. Therefore in list below: J is worst form of weakness and G is least form of weakness? many thanks, John > <siha > SAMVA > Thu, 8 Dec 2005 21:57:12 +0530 > > Cc: <satva >, <SAMVA > > Descending order of weak planets > > > Hello dear list members, > > The descending order of weak planets was modified a few months back on my > website and it is as under: > > > > Weak Planets > > > A weak planet is not capable of fully protecting/promoting its general > significations and the significations of its mooltrikona sign house during > the course of its sub-periods and the transit malefic influences. Any planet > is considered weak if: > > a) it is combust due to its nearness to the Sun. > b) it occupies malefic houses from the ascendant except when in its own > moolatrikona sign. > c) it occupies its sign of debilitation. > d) it is in the state of infancy or old-age. > e) it occupies debilitated sign in navamsa. > f) it occupies the mooltrikona sign of a weak planet. > g) it is the Moon within 72 degrees either side of the Sun. > h) it is conjunct or aspected by any functional malefic planet within an orb > of one degree. > i) the most effective point of its house of placement is afflicted by a > functional malefic planet within an orb of one degree. > j) the most effective point of its moolatrikona sign is afflicted by a > functional malefic planet within an orb of one degree. > > DESCENDING ORDER OF WEAKNESS OF PLANETS IS: j), i), h), a), b), c), d), e), > f) and g). > > NOTE: when the exact affliction comes from: > 1) a conjunction with/ aspect from the MMP, > 2) an aspect from a FMP placed in a dusthana, > 3) a conjunction with Rahu or Ketu (Rahu-Ketu axis) > 4) an aspect of a FMP afflicted by other(s) FMP, > 5) more than one FMP at the same time, > > Then the otherwise " strong " planet should be considered afflicted (and weak) > even when the orb of affliction is of two degrees. > > > > Best wishes, > > > www.YourNetAstrologer.com > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122101 (India) > Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 > Mobile 98110 16333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2005 Report Share Posted December 12, 2005 Hello Mr. Maguire, Right. Best wishes, www.YourNetAstrologer.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122101 (India) Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 Mobile 98110 16333 - " JOHN MAGUIRE " <jam939 <SAMVA > Tuesday, December 13, 2005 3:24 AM Re: Descending order of weak planets > Dear professor, > > Just to make sure I have proper understanding - by " descending order " > you mean the weakness is less as you work down the list. Therefore in list > below: J is worst form of weakness and G is least form of weakness? > > many thanks, John > >> <siha >> SAMVA >> Thu, 8 Dec 2005 21:57:12 +0530 >> >> Cc: <satva >, <SAMVA > >> Descending order of weak planets >> >> >> Hello dear list members, >> >> The descending order of weak planets was modified a few months back on my >> website and it is as under: >> >> >> >> Weak Planets >> >> >> A weak planet is not capable of fully protecting/promoting its general >> significations and the significations of its mooltrikona sign house >> during >> the course of its sub-periods and the transit malefic influences. Any >> planet >> is considered weak if: >> >> a) it is combust due to its nearness to the Sun. >> b) it occupies malefic houses from the ascendant except when in its own >> moolatrikona sign. >> c) it occupies its sign of debilitation. >> d) it is in the state of infancy or old-age. >> e) it occupies debilitated sign in navamsa. >> f) it occupies the mooltrikona sign of a weak planet. >> g) it is the Moon within 72 degrees either side of the Sun. >> h) it is conjunct or aspected by any functional malefic planet within an >> orb >> of one degree. >> i) the most effective point of its house of placement is afflicted by a >> functional malefic planet within an orb of one degree. >> j) the most effective point of its moolatrikona sign is afflicted by a >> functional malefic planet within an orb of one degree. >> >> DESCENDING ORDER OF WEAKNESS OF PLANETS IS: j), i), h), a), b), c), d), >> e), >> f) and g). >> >> NOTE: when the exact affliction comes from: >> 1) a conjunction with/ aspect from the MMP, >> 2) an aspect from a FMP placed in a dusthana, >> 3) a conjunction with Rahu or Ketu (Rahu-Ketu axis) >> 4) an aspect of a FMP afflicted by other(s) FMP, >> 5) more than one FMP at the same time, >> >> Then the otherwise " strong " planet should be considered afflicted (and >> weak) >> even when the orb of affliction is of two degrees. >> >> >> >> Best wishes, >> >> >> www.YourNetAstrologer.com >> A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122101 (India) >> Phones: 91 124 - 2219240 >> Mobile 98110 16333 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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