Time check -a presuposition of the astrologer-

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

 

I read regularly your interventions with great respect and in learning

spirit. However I find that almost every astrologer I met do not care

(enough, if at all) about birth time data (whether its realibility, or if it

is DST or not).

 

Many time I have put this to the front, even if it meant confrontation (and

many times, it did!). No astrological work can be reliable without a proper

research on birth time. For this, Astrodienst is where we should go (on the

internet -http://www.astro.com/cgi/aq.cgi-). Otherwise, Thomas Shanks' books

are the one to rely on- I have had Doane, Gauquelin, Le Corre and Gabriel's

ones -but never are they as complete and reliable as Shanks' books -The

American and International Atlases-)....

 

Most of the countries in the world are not lucky enough to have a simple day

saving time law as India does, i.e. -5h30 from Greenwich. Many times, for a

country, we find war times, zone delimited times (France, under WWII

occupation, for instance), specific town times (Quebec has many of them,

before the 1970's!-), before it gets a general law for DST.

 

So I think that before we cast any birth chart, we must *always* check

whether there was any " saving time " , should we always cast our chart on

Astrodienst website (for instance, since it has some aggrement with Shanks'

work), getting there our GMT (Greenwich) time. At least, we then have a

reliable data.

 

Since I own many software, I have found those with ACS (built-in) atlas to

be more reliable than any other software I own (I have paid nearly a

thousand Canadian dollars for Aureas -Western- Astrology software, and their

atlas is still not fully reliable, as ACS, although its astrological

techniques are the best...)

 

So " cautiousness " is needed for every chart we cast. I wish Astrologers will

put their attention on this very important matter...

 

Our reputation almost exclusively rely on birth data precision. Other

astrological techniques failing with false data, should we have the best

techniques in the world.

 

--

With my best regards,

François Carrière

 

siha <siha écrivit:

 

> Hello Vyas,

>

> Mr. Arun Rao is right. I have checked up the time zone on the birth

> date is 4 hours and asdt works out to Taurus 21 deg. I first ignored

> verification of the time zone as you had given the time zone in your

> message.

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

> www.YourNetAstrologer.com

> www.JyotishRemedies121.com

> A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122101 (India)

> Phones: 91 124 - 2219240

> Mobile 98110 16333

>

>

> -

> " arunrao9 " <arunrao9

>

> Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:11 AM

> Re: Marriage for this girl

>

>

>> Dear Vyas,

>>

>> I assume that the place of birth is Toronto, Canada. Daylight Saving

>> Time is in effect on September 7, 1981 in Toronto. A birth time of

>> 11:30 PM gives us a lagna in Taurus at 21 degrees 18 minutes, not in

>> Gemini. I hope this will clarify your analysis.

>>

>> Best Wishes,

>>

>> Arun Rao

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Francois,

 

You're absolutely correct. I admire your expression of passion in

this matter; we shouldn't freak out too much though, mistakes do

happen from time to time.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

 

, " FRANCOIS CARRIERE " <shaula001

wrote:

>

> Dear ,

>

> I read regularly your interventions with great respect and in

learning

> spirit. However I find that almost every astrologer I met do not

care

> (enough, if at all) about birth time data (whether its

realibility, or if it

> is DST or not).

>

> Many time I have put this to the front, even if it meant

confrontation (and

> many times, it did!). No astrological work can be reliable without

a proper

> research on birth time. For this, Astrodienst is where we should

go (on the

> internet -http://www.astro.com/cgi/aq.cgi-). Otherwise, Thomas

Shanks' books

> are the one to rely on- I have had Doane, Gauquelin, Le Corre and

Gabriel's

> ones -but never are they as complete and reliable as Shanks'

books -The

> American and International Atlases-)....

>

> Most of the countries in the world are not lucky enough to have a

simple day

> saving time law as India does, i.e. -5h30 from Greenwich. Many

times, for a

> country, we find war times, zone delimited times (France, under

WWII

> occupation, for instance), specific town times (Quebec has many of

them,

> before the 1970's!-), before it gets a general law for DST.

>

> So I think that before we cast any birth chart, we must *always*

check

> whether there was any " saving time " , should we always cast our

chart on

> Astrodienst website (for instance, since it has some aggrement

with Shanks'

> work), getting there our GMT (Greenwich) time. At least, we then

have a

> reliable data.

>

> Since I own many software, I have found those with ACS (built-in)

atlas to

> be more reliable than any other software I own (I have paid nearly

a

> thousand Canadian dollars for Aureas -Western- Astrology software,

and their

> atlas is still not fully reliable, as ACS, although its

astrological

> techniques are the best...)

>

> So " cautiousness " is needed for every chart we cast. I wish

Astrologers will

> put their attention on this very important matter...

>

> Our reputation almost exclusively rely on birth data precision.

Other

> astrological techniques failing with false data, should we have

the best

> techniques in the world.

>

> --

> With my best regards,

> François Carrière

>

> siha <siha écrivit:

>

> > Hello Vyas,

> >

> > Mr. Arun Rao is right. I have checked up the time zone on the

birth

> > date is 4 hours and asdt works out to Taurus 21 deg. I first

ignored

> > verification of the time zone as you had given the time zone in

your

> > message.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> >

> > www.YourNetAstrologer.com

> > www.JyotishRemedies121.com

> > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122101 (India)

> > Phones: 91 124 - 2219240

> > Mobile 98110 16333

> >

> >

> > -

> > " arunrao9 " <arunrao9

> >

> > Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:11 AM

> > Re: Marriage for this girl

> >

> >

> >> Dear Vyas,

> >>

> >> I assume that the place of birth is Toronto, Canada. Daylight

Saving

> >> Time is in effect on September 7, 1981 in Toronto. A birth time

of

> >> 11:30 PM gives us a lagna in Taurus at 21 degrees 18 minutes,

not in

> >> Gemini. I hope this will clarify your analysis.

> >>

> >> Best Wishes,

> >>

> >> Arun Rao

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

[Guest guest]

Hello Francois,

 

I always check with Astrodinest but in this case since TZ was given, I just

believed.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

-

" FRANCOIS CARRIERE " <shaula001

 

Saturday, March 11, 2006 9:17 AM

Time check -a presuposition of the astrologer-

 

 

> Dear ,

>

> I read regularly your interventions with great respect and in learning

> spirit. However I find that almost every astrologer I met do not care

> (enough, if at all) about birth time data (whether its realibility, or if

> it

> is DST or not).

>

> Many time I have put this to the front, even if it meant confrontation

> (and

> many times, it did!). No astrological work can be reliable without a

> proper

> research on birth time. For this, Astrodienst is where we should go (on

> the

> internet -http://www.astro.com/cgi/aq.cgi-). Otherwise, Thomas Shanks'

> books

> are the one to rely on- I have had Doane, Gauquelin, Le Corre and

> Gabriel's

> ones -but never are they as complete and reliable as Shanks' books -The

> American and International Atlases-)....

>

> Most of the countries in the world are not lucky enough to have a simple

> day

> saving time law as India does, i.e. -5h30 from Greenwich. Many times, for

> a

> country, we find war times, zone delimited times (France, under WWII

> occupation, for instance), specific town times (Quebec has many of them,

> before the 1970's!-), before it gets a general law for DST.

>

> So I think that before we cast any birth chart, we must *always* check

> whether there was any " saving time " , should we always cast our chart on

> Astrodienst website (for instance, since it has some aggrement with

> Shanks'

> work), getting there our GMT (Greenwich) time. At least, we then have a

> reliable data.

>

> Since I own many software, I have found those with ACS (built-in) atlas to

> be more reliable than any other software I own (I have paid nearly a

> thousand Canadian dollars for Aureas -Western- Astrology software, and

> their

> atlas is still not fully reliable, as ACS, although its astrological

> techniques are the best...)

>

> So " cautiousness " is needed for every chart we cast. I wish Astrologers

> will

> put their attention on this very important matter...

>

> Our reputation almost exclusively rely on birth data precision. Other

> astrological techniques failing with false data, should we have the best

> techniques in the world.

>

> --

> With my best regards,

> François Carrière

>

> siha <siha écrivit:

>

>> Hello Vyas,

>>

>> Mr. Arun Rao is right. I have checked up the time zone on the birth

>> date is 4 hours and asdt works out to Taurus 21 deg. I first ignored

>> verification of the time zone as you had given the time zone in your

>> message.

>>

>> Best wishes,

>>

>>

>> www.YourNetAstrologer.com

>> www.JyotishRemedies121.com

>> A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122101 (India)

>> Phones: 91 124 - 2219240

>> Mobile 98110 16333

>>

>>

>> -

>> " arunrao9 " <arunrao9

>>

>> Saturday, March 11, 2006 8:11 AM

>> Re: Marriage for this girl

>>

>>

>>> Dear Vyas,

>>>

>>> I assume that the place of birth is Toronto, Canada. Daylight Saving

>>> Time is in effect on September 7, 1981 in Toronto. A birth time of

>>> 11:30 PM gives us a lagna in Taurus at 21 degrees 18 minutes, not in

>>> Gemini. I hope this will clarify your analysis.

>>>

>>> Best Wishes,

>>>

>>> Arun Rao

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>