Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Dear All, I had a feeling it would be real close...France's sub-period lord (Mars) is weaker in transit today than is Italy's (Saturn) among other factors. I had picked France earlier on, however, mainly on the basis of the strength of its sub-period lord. I looked at Zidane's chart soon after his moronic head butt... It is troublesome today as his transit Moon is in the 8th and is near natal L8 Jupiter. He is also in the sub-period of Moon, which is placed in his 6th house. He is also having a nodal reapproach... Zinedine Zidane June 23, 1972 3:00 AM CET (-1:00) Marseille, France 43N18, 5E24 Taurus Asc. Best Wishes, Arun SAMVA , " Sateesh Batas " <makaras wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1i_l0OeeMc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 LOL, Mr. Batas. He absolutely lost his mind as we can see happening from his own chart that I posted earlier. SAMVA , " Sateesh Batas " <makaras wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1i_l0OeeMc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Dear Arun I'm not sure 3H00 is the correct bith time. I made last year a first rectification around 2H40, which gives 28°xx Aries with strong Sun, Jupiter, Saturn, and Moon on 1H and 7H'MEP. These strong planets explain his career and worldwide recognition. Tonight transits were not favorable for him : transit Mercury afflicting natal Mars conjunct to natal Ketu under influence of Rahu in the 12H. He loosed his legendary " cool " attitude... Hope this helps Jo Cohen - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 <SAMVA > Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:12 PM Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT Dear All, I had a feeling it would be real close...France's sub-period lord (Mars) is weaker in transit today than is Italy's (Saturn) among other factors. I had picked France earlier on, however, mainly on the basis of the strength of its sub-period lord. I looked at Zidane's chart soon after his moronic head butt... It is troublesome today as his transit Moon is in the 8th and is near natal L8 Jupiter. He is also in the sub-period of Moon, which is placed in his 6th house. He is also having a nodal reapproach... Zinedine Zidane June 23, 1972 3:00 AM CET (-1:00) Marseille, France 43N18, 5E24 Taurus Asc. Best Wishes, Arun SAMVA , " Sateesh Batas " <makaras wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1i_l0OeeMc > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Dear Mr. Cohen, This chart does in fact make more sense from an international recognition/fame standpoint. But he is running the sub-period of Moon in this chart as well, which should have been helpful for his overall image. He now ends his career in disgrace, unfortunately. Also, his professional determinant Mars is weak and is under exact affliction of the nodes... But the strong Sun helps in this chart...perhaps he is still Taurus Asc., but the time is a bit off? Sun in the 2nd and near the MEP works quite well too... Best Wishes, Arun SAMVA , " Jo Cohen " <jo.cohen1 wrote: > > Dear Arun > > I'm not sure 3H00 is the correct bith time. > I made last year a first rectification around 2H40, which gives 28°xx Aries > with strong Sun, Jupiter, Saturn, and Moon on 1H and 7H'MEP. These strong > planets explain his career and worldwide recognition. > Tonight transits were not favorable for him : transit Mercury afflicting > natal Mars conjunct to natal Ketu under influence of Rahu in the 12H. He > loosed his legendary " cool " attitude... > > Hope this helps > > Jo Cohen > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > <SAMVA > > Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:12 PM > Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT > > > Dear All, > > I had a feeling it would be real close...France's sub-period lord > (Mars) is weaker in transit today than is Italy's (Saturn) among other > factors. > > I had picked France earlier on, however, mainly on the basis of the > strength of its sub-period lord. > > I looked at Zidane's chart soon after his moronic head butt... > > It is troublesome today as his transit Moon is in the 8th and is near > natal L8 Jupiter. > > He is also in the sub-period of Moon, which is placed in his 6th house. > > He is also having a nodal reapproach... > > Zinedine Zidane > June 23, 1972 > 3:00 AM CET (-1:00) > Marseille, France > 43N18, 5E24 > Taurus Asc. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > > SAMVA , " Sateesh Batas " <makaras@> wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1i_l0OeeMc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 TR Mercury is RX - and under the aspect of TR Rahu - not the best transit for correct thinking :-) ======== - Jo Cohen SAMVA Sunday, July 09, 2006 10:29 PM Re: Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT Dear ArunI'm not sure 3H00 is the correct bith time.I made last year a first rectification around 2H40, which gives 28°xx Aries with strong Sun, Jupiter, Saturn, and Moon on 1H and 7H'MEP. These strong planets explain his career and worldwide recognition.Tonight transits were not favorable for him : transit Mercury afflicting natal Mars conjunct to natal Ketu under influence of Rahu in the 12H. He loosed his legendary "cool" attitude...Hope this helpsJo Cohen- "Arun Rao" <arunrao9 ><SAMVA >Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:12 PM Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOTDear All,I had a feeling it would be real close...France's sub-period lord(Mars) is weaker in transit today than is Italy's (Saturn) among otherfactors.I had picked France earlier on, however, mainly on the basis of thestrength of its sub-period lord.I looked at Zidane's chart soon after his moronic head butt...It is troublesome today as his transit Moon is in the 8th and is nearnatal L8 Jupiter.He is also in the sub-period of Moon, which is placed in his 6th house.He is also having a nodal reapproach...Zinedine ZidaneJune 23, 19723:00 AM CET (-1:00)Marseille, France43N18, 5E24Taurus Asc.Best Wishes,ArunSAMVA , "Sateesh Batas" <makaras wrote:>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1i_l0OeeMc> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Dear Mr Arun Imho, Sun is under Jupiter MMP affliction in Taurus chart. This cannot explain success or recognition at any level. Also, Zidane is the father of four sons, difficult to imagine if Sun is strongly affflicted. In Aries, the Moon subperiod operating now is not enough to couteract the transit effects which are not positive. I'm not sure Zidane has reached the " point of disgrace " . In Aries chart, strong Jupiter acts like a strong Sun according to the new principles brought out by Pr Choudhry. This configuration is enough to explain his phenomenal success, given the weakness of natal Mars, partly compensated by Moon's impact on mep. Best Wishes Jo Cohen - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 <SAMVA > Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:36 PM Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT Dear Mr. Cohen, This chart does in fact make more sense from an international recognition/fame standpoint. But he is running the sub-period of Moon in this chart as well, which should have been helpful for his overall image. He now ends his career in disgrace, unfortunately. Also, his professional determinant Mars is weak and is under exact affliction of the nodes... But the strong Sun helps in this chart...perhaps he is still Taurus Asc., but the time is a bit off? Sun in the 2nd and near the MEP works quite well too... Best Wishes, Arun SAMVA , " Jo Cohen " <jo.cohen1 wrote: > > Dear Arun > > I'm not sure 3H00 is the correct bith time. > I made last year a first rectification around 2H40, which gives 28°xx Aries > with strong Sun, Jupiter, Saturn, and Moon on 1H and 7H'MEP. These strong > planets explain his career and worldwide recognition. > Tonight transits were not favorable for him : transit Mercury afflicting > natal Mars conjunct to natal Ketu under influence of Rahu in the 12H. He > loosed his legendary " cool " attitude... > > Hope this helps > > Jo Cohen > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > <SAMVA > > Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:12 PM > Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT > > > Dear All, > > I had a feeling it would be real close...France's sub-period lord > (Mars) is weaker in transit today than is Italy's (Saturn) among other > factors. > > I had picked France earlier on, however, mainly on the basis of the > strength of its sub-period lord. > > I looked at Zidane's chart soon after his moronic head butt... > > It is troublesome today as his transit Moon is in the 8th and is near > natal L8 Jupiter. > > He is also in the sub-period of Moon, which is placed in his 6th house. > > He is also having a nodal reapproach... > > Zinedine Zidane > June 23, 1972 > 3:00 AM CET (-1:00) > Marseille, France > 43N18, 5E24 > Taurus Asc. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > > SAMVA , " Sateesh Batas " <makaras@> wrote: > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1i_l0OeeMc > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Dear Mr. Cohen, Quite frankly, the entire world is experiencing the effects of Rahu-Mercury in various degrees, not just Mr. Zidane. But I agree that it would be more severe if he is Aries Asc. because of the additional affliction to natal Mars, ruling personality, image, etc. The affliction by Mercury to the 3rd house MEP in the case of Aries and the weakness of natal Mars do not show great athletic talent, success, or achievements. I guess the strong Sun compensates here as well. Good point about having 4 sons...I was not aware of that. Jupiter-Sun mutual aspect and their strengths in the case of Aries makes a lot of sense there. As for his overall reputation, only time will tell. Personally, I would judge the entire body of work, but there are many who will remember him mainly for having lost control of his emotions at the most crucial of all times. At this point, I am leaning towards Aries...so thanks for the added insight. Best Wishes, Arun SAMVA , " Jo Cohen " <jo.cohen1 wrote: > > Dear Mr Arun > > Imho, Sun is under Jupiter MMP affliction in Taurus chart. This cannot > explain success or recognition at any level. Also, Zidane is the father of > four sons, difficult to imagine if Sun is strongly affflicted. > In Aries, the Moon subperiod operating now is not enough to couteract the > transit effects which are not positive. > I'm not sure Zidane has reached the " point of disgrace " . > > In Aries chart, strong Jupiter acts like a strong Sun according to the new > principles brought out by Pr Choudhry. This configuration is enough to > explain his phenomenal success, given the weakness of natal Mars, partly > compensated by Moon's impact on mep. > > Best Wishes > Jo Cohen > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > <SAMVA > > Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:36 PM > Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT > > > Dear Mr. Cohen, > > This chart does in fact make more sense from an international > recognition/fame standpoint. > > But he is running the sub-period of Moon in this chart as well, which > should have been helpful for his overall image. > > He now ends his career in disgrace, unfortunately. > > Also, his professional determinant Mars is weak and is under exact > affliction of the nodes... > > But the strong Sun helps in this chart...perhaps he is still Taurus > Asc., but the time is a bit off? Sun in the 2nd and near the MEP works > quite well too... > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > SAMVA , " Jo Cohen " <jo.cohen1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Arun > > > > I'm not sure 3H00 is the correct bith time. > > I made last year a first rectification around 2H40, which gives > 28°xx Aries > > with strong Sun, Jupiter, Saturn, and Moon on 1H and 7H'MEP. These > strong > > planets explain his career and worldwide recognition. > > Tonight transits were not favorable for him : transit Mercury > afflicting > > natal Mars conjunct to natal Ketu under influence of Rahu in the > 12H. He > > loosed his legendary " cool " attitude... > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Jo Cohen > > > > - > > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9@> > > <SAMVA > > > Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:12 PM > > Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > I had a feeling it would be real close...France's sub-period lord > > (Mars) is weaker in transit today than is Italy's (Saturn) among other > > factors. > > > > I had picked France earlier on, however, mainly on the basis of the > > strength of its sub-period lord. > > > > I looked at Zidane's chart soon after his moronic head butt... > > > > It is troublesome today as his transit Moon is in the 8th and is near > > natal L8 Jupiter. > > > > He is also in the sub-period of Moon, which is placed in his 6th house. > > > > He is also having a nodal reapproach... > > > > Zinedine Zidane > > June 23, 1972 > > 3:00 AM CET (-1:00) > > Marseille, France > > 43N18, 5E24 > > Taurus Asc. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > > > SAMVA , " Sateesh Batas " <makaras@> wrote: > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1i_l0OeeMc > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Dear Mr. Cohen, If I am not mistaken, the strong L9 aspect of the latest principle deals more with the father/fortune aspect of Sun's significations. So, this alone isn't enough evidence I would think. However, the Sun being strong in the case of Aries and its placement in the 3rd house is a great boon for Mr. Zidane. Best Wishes, Arun SAMVA , " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 wrote: > > Dear Mr. Cohen, > > Quite frankly, the entire world is experiencing the effects of > Rahu-Mercury in various degrees, not just Mr. Zidane. > > But I agree that it would be more severe if he is Aries Asc. because > of the additional affliction to natal Mars, ruling personality, image, > etc. > > The affliction by Mercury to the 3rd house MEP in the case of Aries > and the weakness of natal Mars do not show great athletic talent, > success, or achievements. I guess the strong Sun compensates here as well. > > Good point about having 4 sons...I was not aware of that. Jupiter-Sun > mutual aspect and their strengths in the case of Aries makes a lot of > sense there. > > As for his overall reputation, only time will tell. Personally, I > would judge the entire body of work, but there are many who will > remember him mainly for having lost control of his emotions at the > most crucial of all times. > > At this point, I am leaning towards Aries...so thanks for the added > insight. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > > SAMVA , " Jo Cohen " <jo.cohen1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr Arun > > > > Imho, Sun is under Jupiter MMP affliction in Taurus chart. This cannot > > explain success or recognition at any level. Also, Zidane is the > father of > > four sons, difficult to imagine if Sun is strongly affflicted. > > In Aries, the Moon subperiod operating now is not enough to > couteract the > > transit effects which are not positive. > > I'm not sure Zidane has reached the " point of disgrace " . > > > > In Aries chart, strong Jupiter acts like a strong Sun according to > the new > > principles brought out by Pr Choudhry. This configuration is enough to > > explain his phenomenal success, given the weakness of natal Mars, > partly > > compensated by Moon's impact on mep. > > > > Best Wishes > > Jo Cohen > > > > - > > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9@> > > <SAMVA > > > Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:36 PM > > Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT > > > > > > Dear Mr. Cohen, > > > > This chart does in fact make more sense from an international > > recognition/fame standpoint. > > > > But he is running the sub-period of Moon in this chart as well, which > > should have been helpful for his overall image. > > > > He now ends his career in disgrace, unfortunately. > > > > Also, his professional determinant Mars is weak and is under exact > > affliction of the nodes... > > > > But the strong Sun helps in this chart...perhaps he is still Taurus > > Asc., but the time is a bit off? Sun in the 2nd and near the MEP works > > quite well too... > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > SAMVA , " Jo Cohen " <jo.cohen1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Arun > > > > > > I'm not sure 3H00 is the correct bith time. > > > I made last year a first rectification around 2H40, which gives > > 28°xx Aries > > > with strong Sun, Jupiter, Saturn, and Moon on 1H and 7H'MEP. These > > strong > > > planets explain his career and worldwide recognition. > > > Tonight transits were not favorable for him : transit Mercury > > afflicting > > > natal Mars conjunct to natal Ketu under influence of Rahu in the > > 12H. He > > > loosed his legendary " cool " attitude... > > > > > > Hope this helps > > > > > > Jo Cohen > > > > > > - > > > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9@> > > > <SAMVA > > > > Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:12 PM > > > Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I had a feeling it would be real close...France's sub-period lord > > > (Mars) is weaker in transit today than is Italy's (Saturn) among other > > > factors. > > > > > > I had picked France earlier on, however, mainly on the basis of the > > > strength of its sub-period lord. > > > > > > I looked at Zidane's chart soon after his moronic head butt... > > > > > > It is troublesome today as his transit Moon is in the 8th and is near > > > natal L8 Jupiter. > > > > > > He is also in the sub-period of Moon, which is placed in his 6th > house. > > > > > > He is also having a nodal reapproach... > > > > > > Zinedine Zidane > > > June 23, 1972 > > > 3:00 AM CET (-1:00) > > > Marseille, France > > > 43N18, 5E24 > > > Taurus Asc. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Arun > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " Sateesh Batas " <makaras@> wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1i_l0OeeMc > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Hello Arun, Strong L9 acts as a Sun like planet in all respects. - " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 <SAMVA > Monday, July 10, 2006 4:12 AM Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT Dear Mr. Cohen, If I am not mistaken, the strong L9 aspect of the latest principle deals more with the father/fortune aspect of Sun's significations. So, this alone isn't enough evidence I would think. However, the Sun being strong in the case of Aries and its placement in the 3rd house is a great boon for Mr. Zidane. Best Wishes, Arun SAMVA , " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 wrote: > > Dear Mr. Cohen, > > Quite frankly, the entire world is experiencing the effects of > Rahu-Mercury in various degrees, not just Mr. Zidane. > > But I agree that it would be more severe if he is Aries Asc. because > of the additional affliction to natal Mars, ruling personality, image, > etc. > > The affliction by Mercury to the 3rd house MEP in the case of Aries > and the weakness of natal Mars do not show great athletic talent, > success, or achievements. I guess the strong Sun compensates here as well. > > Good point about having 4 sons...I was not aware of that. Jupiter-Sun > mutual aspect and their strengths in the case of Aries makes a lot of > sense there. > > As for his overall reputation, only time will tell. Personally, I > would judge the entire body of work, but there are many who will > remember him mainly for having lost control of his emotions at the > most crucial of all times. > > At this point, I am leaning towards Aries...so thanks for the added > insight. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > > SAMVA , " Jo Cohen " <jo.cohen1@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr Arun > > > > Imho, Sun is under Jupiter MMP affliction in Taurus chart. This cannot > > explain success or recognition at any level. Also, Zidane is the > father of > > four sons, difficult to imagine if Sun is strongly affflicted. > > In Aries, the Moon subperiod operating now is not enough to > couteract the > > transit effects which are not positive. > > I'm not sure Zidane has reached the " point of disgrace " . > > > > In Aries chart, strong Jupiter acts like a strong Sun according to > the new > > principles brought out by Pr Choudhry. This configuration is enough to > > explain his phenomenal success, given the weakness of natal Mars, > partly > > compensated by Moon's impact on mep. > > > > Best Wishes > > Jo Cohen > > > > - > > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9@> > > <SAMVA > > > Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:36 PM > > Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT > > > > > > Dear Mr. Cohen, > > > > This chart does in fact make more sense from an international > > recognition/fame standpoint. > > > > But he is running the sub-period of Moon in this chart as well, which > > should have been helpful for his overall image. > > > > He now ends his career in disgrace, unfortunately. > > > > Also, his professional determinant Mars is weak and is under exact > > affliction of the nodes... > > > > But the strong Sun helps in this chart...perhaps he is still Taurus > > Asc., but the time is a bit off? Sun in the 2nd and near the MEP works > > quite well too... > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > SAMVA , " Jo Cohen " <jo.cohen1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Arun > > > > > > I'm not sure 3H00 is the correct bith time. > > > I made last year a first rectification around 2H40, which gives > > 28°xx Aries > > > with strong Sun, Jupiter, Saturn, and Moon on 1H and 7H'MEP. These > > strong > > > planets explain his career and worldwide recognition. > > > Tonight transits were not favorable for him : transit Mercury > > afflicting > > > natal Mars conjunct to natal Ketu under influence of Rahu in the > > 12H. He > > > loosed his legendary " cool " attitude... > > > > > > Hope this helps > > > > > > Jo Cohen > > > > > > - > > > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9@> > > > <SAMVA > > > > Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:12 PM > > > Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I had a feeling it would be real close...France's sub-period lord > > > (Mars) is weaker in transit today than is Italy's (Saturn) among other > > > factors. > > > > > > I had picked France earlier on, however, mainly on the basis of the > > > strength of its sub-period lord. > > > > > > I looked at Zidane's chart soon after his moronic head butt... > > > > > > It is troublesome today as his transit Moon is in the 8th and is near > > > natal L8 Jupiter. > > > > > > He is also in the sub-period of Moon, which is placed in his 6th > house. > > > > > > He is also having a nodal reapproach... > > > > > > Zinedine Zidane > > > June 23, 1972 > > > 3:00 AM CET (-1:00) > > > Marseille, France > > > 43N18, 5E24 > > > Taurus Asc. > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Arun > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " Sateesh Batas " <makaras@> wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1i_l0OeeMc > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2006 Report Share Posted July 9, 2006 Dear Esteemed Professor, Thank you for clarifying. Best of wishes, Arun SAMVA , <siha wrote: > > Hello Arun, > > Strong L9 acts as a Sun like planet in all respects. > > > > - > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9 > <SAMVA > > Monday, July 10, 2006 4:12 AM > Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT > > > Dear Mr. Cohen, > > If I am not mistaken, the strong L9 aspect of the latest principle > deals more with the father/fortune aspect of Sun's significations. > > So, this alone isn't enough evidence I would think. > > However, the Sun being strong in the case of Aries and its placement > in the 3rd house is a great boon for Mr. Zidane. > > Best Wishes, > > Arun > > SAMVA , " Arun Rao " <arunrao9@> wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Cohen, > > > > Quite frankly, the entire world is experiencing the effects of > > Rahu-Mercury in various degrees, not just Mr. Zidane. > > > > But I agree that it would be more severe if he is Aries Asc. because > > of the additional affliction to natal Mars, ruling personality, image, > > etc. > > > > The affliction by Mercury to the 3rd house MEP in the case of Aries > > and the weakness of natal Mars do not show great athletic talent, > > success, or achievements. I guess the strong Sun compensates here as > well. > > > > Good point about having 4 sons...I was not aware of that. Jupiter-Sun > > mutual aspect and their strengths in the case of Aries makes a lot of > > sense there. > > > > As for his overall reputation, only time will tell. Personally, I > > would judge the entire body of work, but there are many who will > > remember him mainly for having lost control of his emotions at the > > most crucial of all times. > > > > At this point, I am leaning towards Aries...so thanks for the added > > insight. > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Arun > > > > > > SAMVA , " Jo Cohen " <jo.cohen1@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Mr Arun > > > > > > Imho, Sun is under Jupiter MMP affliction in Taurus chart. This > cannot > > > explain success or recognition at any level. Also, Zidane is the > > father of > > > four sons, difficult to imagine if Sun is strongly affflicted. > > > In Aries, the Moon subperiod operating now is not enough to > > couteract the > > > transit effects which are not positive. > > > I'm not sure Zidane has reached the " point of disgrace " . > > > > > > In Aries chart, strong Jupiter acts like a strong Sun according to > > the new > > > principles brought out by Pr Choudhry. This configuration is > enough to > > > explain his phenomenal success, given the weakness of natal Mars, > > partly > > > compensated by Moon's impact on mep. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > Jo Cohen > > > > > > - > > > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9@> > > > <SAMVA > > > > Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:36 PM > > > Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Cohen, > > > > > > This chart does in fact make more sense from an international > > > recognition/fame standpoint. > > > > > > But he is running the sub-period of Moon in this chart as well, which > > > should have been helpful for his overall image. > > > > > > He now ends his career in disgrace, unfortunately. > > > > > > Also, his professional determinant Mars is weak and is under exact > > > affliction of the nodes... > > > > > > But the strong Sun helps in this chart...perhaps he is still Taurus > > > Asc., but the time is a bit off? Sun in the 2nd and near the MEP works > > > quite well too... > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > Arun > > > > > > SAMVA , " Jo Cohen " <jo.cohen1@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Arun > > > > > > > > I'm not sure 3H00 is the correct bith time. > > > > I made last year a first rectification around 2H40, which gives > > > 28°xx Aries > > > > with strong Sun, Jupiter, Saturn, and Moon on 1H and 7H'MEP. These > > > strong > > > > planets explain his career and worldwide recognition. > > > > Tonight transits were not favorable for him : transit Mercury > > > afflicting > > > > natal Mars conjunct to natal Ketu under influence of Rahu in the > > > 12H. He > > > > loosed his legendary " cool " attitude... > > > > > > > > Hope this helps > > > > > > > > Jo Cohen > > > > > > > > - > > > > " Arun Rao " <arunrao9@> > > > > <SAMVA > > > > > Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:12 PM > > > > Re: Zidane - a true legend - NOT > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > I had a feeling it would be real close...France's sub-period lord > > > > (Mars) is weaker in transit today than is Italy's (Saturn) among > other > > > > factors. > > > > > > > > I had picked France earlier on, however, mainly on the basis of the > > > > strength of its sub-period lord. > > > > > > > > I looked at Zidane's chart soon after his moronic head butt... > > > > > > > > It is troublesome today as his transit Moon is in the 8th and is > near > > > > natal L8 Jupiter. > > > > > > > > He is also in the sub-period of Moon, which is placed in his 6th > > house. > > > > > > > > He is also having a nodal reapproach... > > > > > > > > Zinedine Zidane > > > > June 23, 1972 > > > > 3:00 AM CET (-1:00) > > > > Marseille, France > > > > 43N18, 5E24 > > > > Taurus Asc. > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > > > > Arun > > > > > > > > > > > > SAMVA , " Sateesh Batas " <makaras@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1i_l0OeeMc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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