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> Dear Sir:

It must be very mentally and physically draining to stay as negative as

you are.

For the record, our dear Professor was the only astrologer I know of,

both in the Vedic and Western traditions, who stated that " it would be

very difficult for John Kerry to beat George Bush " in the U.S.

presidential elections, when every other astrologer on the planet,

including many on this list, predicted a Kerry victory.

I suspect the Professor is too humble to come right out and say that he

was emphatically correct in that prediction.

Every astrologer I know who has a respectful perspective on the subject

refers to themselves as a " student " of astrology. Why? Because

astrology is an ongoing work in progress. Its the only subject I know

of where you cannot repeat the same " experiment " (read " prediction " )

twice, because the planets are NEVER in the same position again.

The very fact that SA can provide even a small, and sometimes imperfect

glimpse into the future is, in my estimation, fascinating.

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Hello Mr Gopalkrishnan,

 

Tr Ra/Ke closely influences Na Ke/Ra and vice versa

Na Ra closely influences Na Mo

Na Ke closely influences Tr Ma, Ju

Tr Ra afflicts influences Tr Ma

Tr Mo afflicts H6, H12 presently

 

There are beneficial influences as well, but the negatives take precedence. The

situation is difficult for you. SA remedies are likely to help somewhat. Next

week is difficult for you as well wrt to conflicts through speech, writing, and

status with Mercury under Rahu's gaze - natal Rahu sits in H6.

 

With MMP Mo transiting your H5 recently and afflicting natal Jupiter and Venus,

this conflict started. The Moon sits in H10 - the MEP is close under Ra from H6.

LO9 Mars under Rahu gives conflicts in astrology for you.

 

With respect to learning astrology, strong Ju and Venus with their mutual aspect

are very nice blessings in your chart, however the weak LO9, Mars, is in extreme

infancy and combust. Close to the MEP in H1, this gives you a fiery,

argumentative nature. This is accented by the Moon's conflicting nature

discussed and the LO1 and LO2 sit in Cancer, H12 - this can put you in conficts

your entire life if the remedies aren't followed. LO9 is very important in

astrology. Jupiter's exact influence on H9 helps to a good degree and is the

reason why you are interested in astrology. Learn with patience and focus

exclusively on SA for a few months and seek the blessings of

and you can learn thoroughly.

 

As far as your expressed anger towards me goes, I have taken no offence

personally in part because I understand your chart. If my words stuck you as

harsh, it was in response to your rudeness to our SA founder. If rudeness wasn't

the intention, it certainly came off poorly because we all thought so. It is

good that you have apologized to our dear Professor - this pleases me greatly

and makes me realize that progress is being made. Let this end here before it

gets worse for you.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

-

SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

Saturday, November 25, 2006 11:35 AM

Re: Transits as on 16th November

 

 

Dear Mr Vyas,

 

Transit Moon will be there for only 2 1/4 days in

every house. Transit Moons effect on the Natal

Jupiter (which is strong in the MEP ) is not imp

but the impact of Natal Moon (MMF) on Transit Jup

is to be seen .I mean when they are

close.Transit Jup is combust . Natal Rahu /ketu isin

the MEP in the 6/12 houses spoiling all houses .

TRansit Rahu/Ketu was afflicting on the house of

6-12 . It has entered 1-7 now . Transit Ketu are

Transit Saturn are close only during Oct 2007 .

 

Do not try to attribute my moods to planetary

influence to prove your point.

 

SG.

 

--- Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

 

> Hi Mr Gopalkrishnan,

>

> My words are simple ones that leave little for

> interpretation when read as is.You obviously have

> read too deeply and put a special spin on them -

> they have indeed touched a nerve. Nevertheless, such

> was not my intention. Please read them again in the

> light of one man trying to help another without the

> play of the false ego.

>

> The axis is causing some problems for you right now

> from a natal and transit perspective. Tr Moon has

> caused problems through your H5 and natal Ju.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

>

> -

> SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

>

> Friday, November 24, 2006 9:30 AM

> Re: Transits as on 16th

> November

>

>

> Dear Vyas,

>

> Your reply does not befit an astrologers words.

> Anger is a sign of a weakling. You are getting

> angry (you may feel that not angry but

> sympathetic) at my mail only indicates that you

> feel you have mastered SA .I expected an answer

> from you as that you would be able to explain

> all the charts as per SA which I am finding in

> the EXPRESS STAR TELLER AND ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE.

> Instead of that you are again intersted in

> defending yourself. Dont tell me that you are

> not bound to answer my questions. You may send a

> reply in that fashion.I can very well anticipate

> that

> .You may give a piece of advice to learn

> repeatedly.Perfect sign of a defender.

>

> Of late Mr Arun Rao is not participating in the

> discussions. He was a person who used to not

> only call a spade a spade but also will take

> pains to delve into details and give a

> satisfactory explanation. Cornering questions was

> appreciated by him . God's grace , may or may not

> be Gurus , will be there on him as he is one

> person who is patient, understanding and accept

> challenging questions for his development.

>

> If you are so confident about SA, why SATVA and

> SAMVA are having two diff Lagnas for Bill Gates

> . You are not keen on answering questions Your

> reply in such fashions only indicate that you

> want to adopt short cuts in life. Wish you good

> luck

>

> SG

> --- Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

>

> > Hello Mr Gopalkrishnan,

> >

> > Till date, you are not learning SA properly.

> What is

> > required, is the blessings of guru. You cannot

> > achieve such by rudeness.

> >

> > I hope that you come around and take the

> necessary

> > steps as this SA and are very

> > rare finds in this age.

> >

> >

> > With good wishes for your progress,

> >

> > Vyas Munidas

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

> >

> > Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:51 AM

> > Re: Transits as on 16th

> > November

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr Vyas,

> >

> > At the outset, Shri T.N Seshan,Former Election

> > Commissioner of India had predicted Shri Rajiv

> > Gandhis assasination.

> >

> > Astrology /Palmistry can be appreciated if and

> > only if we analyse celebrities/Industrialists

> > horoscope/hands and analyse the difference

> between

> > them and the Common Man. In SATVA Gates Lagna is

> > Gemini . In SAMVA Gates's Lagna is Cancer. Some

> > of the Industrialists horoscope appearing in the

>

> > EXPRESS STAR TELLER and the ASTROLIGICAL

> MAGAZINE

> > does not have any outstanding features

> .Rahu/Ketu

> > are in MEP afflicting all the houses. Some are

> > in Old age ,some are in Infancy.Some are

> > debilitated in Navamsa . Even in Bill Gates horo

>

> > also the same feature is found.He has mitigated

> > the Rahu/Ketu effect by charities . In the hand

> > analysis of Bill Gates his thin fingers

> > contributing to his intelligence is repeated at

> > many places. There are so many intelligent

> > people. Are they the wealthiest man ?

> >

> > One Cousin brother of mine flourished during MMF

> > Jupiter dasa in MEP of the 11th for Cancer Lagna

> > . (Birth details accurate) . I asked this to

> > Professor .No reply came from him.

> >

> > There are many tutors. They want the students

> > to listen only and not vice versa . No teacher

> > likes getting cornered . Vedic Astrology

> analyses

> > as per Natural malefic/benefic which gives lot

> > of room for manipulating and post martem

> > analysis.

> >

> > IS ASTROLOGY A HOAX?

> >

> > Sadasivan Gopalakrihnan

> >

> > --- Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Percy,

> > >

> > > The events you mention: 9-11, the Asian

> Tsunami,

> > and

> > > the assassination of Rajiv Ghandi have to be

> > seen in

> > > the proper context. In addition to having

> > accurate

> > > charts, there needs to be careful monitoring

> and

> > > study. In the Tsunami case, one has to see the

> > > charts of the countries/regions affected. I

> > wouldn't

> > > go as far as saying that no one predicted such

> > > events not because it's out of your

> experience.

> > >

> > > As a critical day, the 16th was key as it was

> > > heaviest. The days surrounding were noteably

> > > difficult. Prayers are helpful and do remove

> > > mountains of heavy karma.

> > >

> > > Keep studying and rifle through as many cases

> > > studies as you can. The knowledge and

> expertise

> > will

> > > come by hard work and the blessings from

> > Professor

> > > Choudhry.

> > >

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Vyas Munidas

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > Percymercy21 Labder

> > >

> > > Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:25 PM

> > > Re: Transits as on 16th

> > > November

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Professor,

> > >

> > > When someone asked you about the real bad

> days,

> > > you said it was only the 16th November. But as

> > it

> > > happened the events manifested before and

> after

> > the

> > > 16th Novemeber. Hence the danger is pinning

> the

> > > prediction to a precise date. Doesn't the

> events

> > as

> > > it happened tend to reveal another aspect of

> the

>

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Correction:

 

Na Ra closely influences Tr Moon *not Na Moon.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

-

Vyas Munidas

Saturday, November 25, 2006 12:57 PM

Re: Transits as on 16th November

 

 

Hello Mr Gopalkrishnan,

 

Tr Ra/Ke closely influences Na Ke/Ra and vice versa

Na Ra closely influences Na Mo

Na Ke closely influences Tr Ma, Ju

Tr Ra afflicts influences Tr Ma

Tr Mo afflicts H6, H12 presently

 

There are beneficial influences as well, but the negatives take precedence.

The situation is difficult for you. SA remedies are likely to help somewhat.

Next week is difficult for you as well wrt to conflicts through speech, writing,

and status with Mercury under Rahu's gaze - natal Rahu sits in H6.

 

With MMP Mo transiting your H5 recently and afflicting natal Jupiter and

Venus, this conflict started. The Moon sits in H10 - the MEP is close under Ra

from H6. LO9 Mars under Rahu gives conflicts in astrology for you.

 

With respect to learning astrology, strong Ju and Venus with their mutual

aspect are very nice blessings in your chart, however the weak LO9, Mars, is in

extreme infancy and combust. Close to the MEP in H1, this gives you a fiery,

argumentative nature. This is accented by the Moon's conflicting nature

discussed and the LO1 and LO2 sit in Cancer, H12 - this can put you in conficts

your entire life if the remedies aren't followed. LO9 is very important in

astrology. Jupiter's exact influence on H9 helps to a good degree and is the

reason why you are interested in astrology. Learn with patience and focus

exclusively on SA for a few months and seek the blessings of

and you can learn thoroughly.

 

As far as your expressed anger towards me goes, I have taken no offence

personally in part because I understand your chart. If my words stuck you as

harsh, it was in response to your rudeness to our SA founder. If rudeness wasn't

the intention, it certainly came off poorly because we all thought so. It is

good that you have apologized to our dear Professor - this pleases me greatly

and makes me realize that progress is being made. Let this end here before it

gets worse for you.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

-

SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

Saturday, November 25, 2006 11:35 AM

Re: Transits as on 16th November

 

 

Dear Mr Vyas,

 

Transit Moon will be there for only 2 1/4 days in

every house. Transit Moons effect on the Natal

Jupiter (which is strong in the MEP ) is not imp

but the impact of Natal Moon (MMF) on Transit Jup

is to be seen .I mean when they are

close.Transit Jup is combust . Natal Rahu /ketu isin

the MEP in the 6/12 houses spoiling all houses .

TRansit Rahu/Ketu was afflicting on the house of

6-12 . It has entered 1-7 now . Transit Ketu are

Transit Saturn are close only during Oct 2007 .

 

Do not try to attribute my moods to planetary

influence to prove your point.

 

SG.

 

--- Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

 

> Hi Mr Gopalkrishnan,

>

> My words are simple ones that leave little for

> interpretation when read as is.You obviously have

> read too deeply and put a special spin on them -

> they have indeed touched a nerve. Nevertheless, such

> was not my intention. Please read them again in the

> light of one man trying to help another without the

> play of the false ego.

>

> The axis is causing some problems for you right now

> from a natal and transit perspective. Tr Moon has

> caused problems through your H5 and natal Ju.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

>

> -

> SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

>

> Friday, November 24, 2006 9:30 AM

> Re: Transits as on 16th

> November

>

>

> Dear Vyas,

>

> Your reply does not befit an astrologers words.

> Anger is a sign of a weakling. You are getting

> angry (you may feel that not angry but

> sympathetic) at my mail only indicates that you

> feel you have mastered SA .I expected an answer

> from you as that you would be able to explain

> all the charts as per SA which I am finding in

> the EXPRESS STAR TELLER AND ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE.

> Instead of that you are again intersted in

> defending yourself. Dont tell me that you are

> not bound to answer my questions. You may send a

> reply in that fashion.I can very well anticipate

> that

> .You may give a piece of advice to learn

> repeatedly.Perfect sign of a defender.

>

> Of late Mr Arun Rao is not participating in the

> discussions. He was a person who used to not

> only call a spade a spade but also will take

> pains to delve into details and give a

> satisfactory explanation. Cornering questions was

> appreciated by him . God's grace , may or may not

> be Gurus , will be there on him as he is one

> person who is patient, understanding and accept

> challenging questions for his development.

>

> If you are so confident about SA, why SATVA and

> SAMVA are having two diff Lagnas for Bill Gates

> . You are not keen on answering questions Your

> reply in such fashions only indicate that you

> want to adopt short cuts in life. Wish you good

> luck

>

> SG

> --- Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

>

> > Hello Mr Gopalkrishnan,

> >

> > Till date, you are not learning SA properly.

> What is

> > required, is the blessings of guru. You cannot

> > achieve such by rudeness.

> >

> > I hope that you come around and take the

> necessary

> > steps as this SA and are very

> > rare finds in this age.

> >

> >

> > With good wishes for your progress,

> >

> > Vyas Munidas

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

> >

> > Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:51 AM

> > Re: Transits as on 16th

> > November

> >

> >

> > Dear Mr Vyas,

> >

> > At the outset, Shri T.N Seshan,Former Election

> > Commissioner of India had predicted Shri Rajiv

> > Gandhis assasination.

> >

> > Astrology /Palmistry can be appreciated if and

> > only if we analyse celebrities/Industrialists

> > horoscope/hands and analyse the difference

> between

> > them and the Common Man. In SATVA Gates Lagna is

> > Gemini . In SAMVA Gates's Lagna is Cancer. Some

> > of the Industrialists horoscope appearing in the

>

> > EXPRESS STAR TELLER and the ASTROLIGICAL

> MAGAZINE

> > does not have any outstanding features

> .Rahu/Ketu

> > are in MEP afflicting all the houses. Some are

> > in Old age ,some are in Infancy.Some are

> > debilitated in Navamsa . Even in Bill Gates horo

>

> > also the same feature is found.He has mitigated

> > the Rahu/Ketu effect by charities . In the hand

> > analysis of Bill Gates his thin fingers

> > contributing to his intelligence is repeated at

> > many places. There are so many intelligent

> > people. Are they the wealthiest man ?

> >

> > One Cousin brother of mine flourished during MMF

> > Jupiter dasa in MEP of the 11th for Cancer Lagna

> > . (Birth details accurate) . I asked this to

> > Professor .No reply came from him.

> >

> > There are many tutors. They want the students

> > to listen only and not vice versa . No teacher

> > likes getting cornered . Vedic Astrology

> analyses

> > as per Natural malefic/benefic which gives lot

> > of room for manipulating and post martem

> > analysis.

> >

> > IS ASTROLOGY A HOAX?

> >

> > Sadasivan Gopalakrihnan

> >

> > --- Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Percy,

> > >

> > > The events you mention: 9-11, the Asian

> Tsunami,

> > and

> > > the assassination of Rajiv Ghandi have to be

> > seen in

> > > the proper context. In addition to having

> > accurate

> > > charts, there needs to be careful monitoring

> and

> > > study. In the Tsunami case, one has to see the

> > > charts of the countries/regions affected. I

> > wouldn't

> > > go as far as saying that no one predicted such

> > > events not because it's out of your

> experience.

> > >

> > > As a critical day, the 16th was key as it was

> > > heaviest. The days surrounding were noteably

> > > difficult. Prayers are helpful and do remove

> > > mountains of heavy karma.

> > >

> > > Keep studying and rifle through as many cases

> > > studies as you can. The knowledge and

> expertise

> > will

> > > come by hard work and the blessings from

> > Professor

> > > Choudhry.

> > >

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Vyas Munidas

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > Percymercy21 Labder

> > >

> > > Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:25 PM

> > > Re: Transits as on 16th

> > > November

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Professor,

> > >

> > > When someone asked you about the real bad

> days,

> > > you said it was only the 16th November. But as

> > it

> > > happened the events manifested before and

> after

> > the

> > > 16th Novemeber. Hence the danger is pinning

> the

> > > prediction to a precise date. Doesn't the

> events

> > as

> > > it happened tend to reveal another aspect of

> the

>

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My point remains - I don't see the relevance of singling out one third-party

(Arun) in the debate you are having with Vyas.

 

Perhaps I have missed something, but looks like there is Zero reason why the

example of Arun specifically has been dragged up.

 

========

 

-

SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

 

Saturday, November 25, 2006 3:33 PM

Re: Transits as on 16th November

 

 

Dear Mr Sateesh,

 

It is my personal opinion. I have sent so many

mails to him and I have ARGUED with him on

various aspects of SA reg AMITABH BACHAN ,GATES ,

AMBANI so on and so forth . Instead of loosing

his cool , he understood my point , and came

out with satisfactory explanation . Some of them

he himself has confessed as possibilities . Never

Mind. The confidence to analyse any horo UNDER

THE SUN and reply to the queries of the

querent with patience is the hall mark of a

true authority on the subject.People respect only

authorities.Run of the mill astrologers are plenty.

I would rate him only one step below Prof

because Prof is the propounder of SA. After all

he has learnt SA from Prof.

 

I am not interested in getting his goodwill . I

do not know him personally. What I felt , I said.

May be he himself may feel bad. I will apologise

to him at that juncture. You may not worry on that

count.

 

Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan

 

--- Sateesh Batas <makaras wrote:

 

> Not sure what the point of this post is - nor in

> particular why Mr. Arun Rao's name has been dropped

> into it seemingly from nowhere, in this reply.

> Referring to a third-party in their apparent absence

> is generally not called for.

 

 

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Hello Mr. Gopalakrishnan,

 

You are right in understanding about the knowledge of Mr. Arun Rao. In SA

every learner has that opportunity.

In SA there are many like me and Mr. Arun Rao. The need is only to follow

the pearls of wisdom simultaneous to the SA.

 

In Ramayana, Maharishi Balmiki says that only who is blessed by lord Rama

knows Him. Once one knows Him he also becomes like lord Rama.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

-

" SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN " <sadasivan_g

 

Saturday, November 25, 2006 9:03 PM

Re: Transits as on 16th November

 

 

> Dear Mr Sateesh,

>

> It is my personal opinion. I have sent so many

> mails to him and I have ARGUED with him on

> various aspects of SA reg AMITABH BACHAN ,GATES ,

> AMBANI so on and so forth . Instead of loosing

> his cool , he understood my point , and came

> out with satisfactory explanation . Some of them

> he himself has confessed as possibilities . Never

> Mind. The confidence to analyse any horo UNDER

> THE SUN and reply to the queries of the

> querent with patience is the hall mark of a

> true authority on the subject.People respect only

> authorities.Run of the mill astrologers are plenty.

> I would rate him only one step below Prof

> because Prof is the propounder of SA. After all

> he has learnt SA from Prof.

>

> I am not interested in getting his goodwill . I

> do not know him personally. What I felt , I said.

> May be he himself may feel bad. I will apologise

> to him at that juncture. You may not worry on that

> count.

>

> Sadasivan Gopalakrishnan

>

> --- Sateesh Batas <makaras wrote:

>

>> Not sure what the point of this post is - nor in

>> particular why Mr. Arun Rao's name has been dropped

>> into it seemingly from nowhere, in this reply.

>> Referring to a third-party in their apparent absence

>> is generally not called for.

>>

>> ========

>>

>> -

>> SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

>>

>> Friday, November 24, 2006 2:30 PM

>> Re: Transits as on 16th November

>>

>>

>> Dear Vyas,

>>

>> Your reply does not befit an astrologers words.

>> Anger is a sign of a weakling. You are getting

>> angry (you may feel that not angry but

>> sympathetic) at my mail only indicates that you

>> feel you have mastered SA .I expected an answer

>> from you as that you would be able to explain

>> all the charts as per SA which I am finding in

>> the EXPRESS STAR TELLER AND ASTROLOGICAL MAGAZINE.

>> Instead of that you are again intersted in

>> defending yourself. Dont tell me that you are

>> not bound to answer my questions. You may send a

>> reply in that fashion.I can very well anticipate

>> that

>> .You may give a piece of advice to learn

>> repeatedly.Perfect sign of a defender.

>>

>> Of late Mr Arun Rao is not participating in the

>> discussions. He was a person who used to not

>> only call a spade a spade but also will take

>> pains to delve into details and give a

>> satisfactory explanation. Cornering questions was

>> appreciated by him . God's grace , may or may not

>> be Gurus , will be there on him as he is one

>> person who is patient, understanding and accept

>> challenging questions for his development.

>>

>> If you are so confident about SA, why SATVA and

>> SAMVA are having two diff Lagnas for Bill Gates

>> . You are not keen on answering questions Your

>> reply in such fashions only indicate that you

>> want to adopt short cuts in life. Wish you good

>> luck

>>

>> SG

>> --- Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

>>

>> > Hello Mr Gopalkrishnan,

>> >

>> > Till date, you are not learning SA properly. What

>> is

>> > required, is the blessings of guru. You cannot

>> > achieve such by rudeness.

>> >

>> > I hope that you come around and take the necessary

>> > steps as this SA and are very

>> > rare finds in this age.

>> >

>> >

>> > With good wishes for your progress,

>> >

>> > Vyas Munidas

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > -

>> > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

>> >

>> > Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:51 AM

>> > Re: Transits as on 16th

>> > November

>> >

>> >

>> > Dear Mr Vyas,

>> >

>> > At the outset, Shri T.N Seshan,Former Election

>> > Commissioner of India had predicted Shri Rajiv

>> > Gandhis assasination.

>> >

>> > Astrology /Palmistry can be appreciated if and

>> > only if we analyse celebrities/Industrialists

>> > horoscope/hands and analyse the difference between

>> > them and the Common Man. In SATVA Gates Lagna is

>> > Gemini . In SAMVA Gates's Lagna is Cancer. Some

>> > of the Industrialists horoscope appearing in the

>> > EXPRESS STAR TELLER and the ASTROLIGICAL MAGAZINE

>> > does not have any outstanding features .Rahu/Ketu

>> > are in MEP afflicting all the houses. Some are

>> > in Old age ,some are in Infancy.Some are

>> > debilitated in Navamsa . Even in Bill Gates horo

>> > also the same feature is found.He has mitigated

>> > the Rahu/Ketu effect by charities . In the hand

>> > analysis of Bill Gates his thin fingers

>> > contributing to his intelligence is repeated at

>> > many places. There are so many intelligent

>> > people. Are they the wealthiest man ?

>> >

>> > One Cousin brother of mine flourished during MMF

>> > Jupiter dasa in MEP of the 11th for Cancer Lagna

>> > . (Birth details accurate) . I asked this to

>> > Professor .No reply came from him.

>> >

>> > There are many tutors. They want the students

>> > to listen only and not vice versa . No teacher

>> > likes getting cornered . Vedic Astrology analyses

>> > as per Natural malefic/benefic which gives lot

>> > of room for manipulating and post martem

>> > analysis.

>> >

>> > IS ASTROLOGY A HOAX?

>> >

>> > Sadasivan Gopalakrihnan

>> >

>> > --- Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

>> >

>> > > Hi Percy,

>> > >

>> > > The events you mention: 9-11, the Asian Tsunami,

>> > and

>> > > the assassination of Rajiv Ghandi have to be

>> > seen in

>> > > the proper context. In addition to having

>> > accurate

>> > > charts, there needs to be careful monitoring and

>> > > study. In the Tsunami case, one has to see the

>> > > charts of the countries/regions affected. I

>> > wouldn't

>> > > go as far as saying that no one predicted such

>> > > events not because it's out of your experience.

>> > >

>> > > As a critical day, the 16th was key as it was

>> > > heaviest. The days surrounding were noteably

>> > > difficult. Prayers are helpful and do remove

>> > > mountains of heavy karma.

>> > >

>> > > Keep studying and rifle through as many cases

>> > > studies as you can. The knowledge and expertise

>> > will

>> > > come by hard work and the blessings from

>> > Professor

>> > > Choudhry.

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > Best regards,

>> > >

>> > > Vyas Munidas

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > -

>> > > Percymercy21 Labder

>> > >

>> > > Wednesday, November 22, 2006 9:25 PM

>> > > Re: Transits as on 16th

>> > > November

>> > >

>> > >

>> > > Dear Professor,

>> > >

>> > > When someone asked you about the real bad days,

>> > > you said it was only the 16th November. But as

>> > it

>> > > happened the events manifested before and after

>> > the

>> > > 16th Novemeber. Hence the danger is pinning the

>> > > prediction to a precise date. Doesn't the events

>> > as

>> > > it happened tend to reveal another aspect of the

>> > > methodolody we use in making predictions -

>> > namely,

>> > > that whenever the affliction is exact, we should

>> > > also extend the dates that cover the 5 degrees

>> > > either way (not necessarily limited to the

>> > precise

>> > > date and that date only). If that is agreed,

>> > then

>> > > the prediction should be that between 11th

>> > November

>> > > - 21 November the events may occur.

>> > >

>> > > Planets do seem to act their 'mischievious'

>> > trait

>> > > to overide established principles (which

>> > otherwise

>> > > should work) and bring out their sudden

>> > creativity

>> > > totally unexpected and contrary to normal

>> > > expectations. A case in point is the September

>> > 11

>> > > incident, Tsunami 26th Dec 2004, assassination

>> > of

>> > > Rajiv Ghandi. I mean no practising vedic

>> > astrologer

>> > > predicted these events.

>> > >

>> > > No fault of anyone or any system, I think

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I did not want to further what I had expressed in my posts as I knew that the

discussion will be diverted into areas such as faith, philosophy and the Creator

etc. I should have know better.

 

I was merely asking why events as per the planetary configuration acted

contrary to our expectation. Then I get a whole lot of lecture(s) on what

transpires or (conspires) behind the scene. That is not what I want to hear. If

you seek refuge within this mysterious and spiritual realm (however you want to

call it) each time you cannot explain your predictions, then there might as well

be no principles of astrology for us to study. How then do you write a book on

the behaviour of planets as per its impact on houses/signs and its interaction

with planets by way of conjunction(s) and or aspects.

 

Even a discussion on the India Chart drew a response from you, Amar, along the

following lines 'keeping in mind the speculative timing of errecting

Indian chart " . That means that even you are unsure of making predictions as per

the present information where hundreds of accurate predcitions have been made by

Prof and the others. But just because this time something was not

right, you began ascribing the fault to the timing of the Indian chart.

 

At one time in your post you even implied that disaster of any description is

permissible, irrespective of its actual impact on the society or nation,

iresspective of its size, scale or magnitude, as long someone or a group of

people in a personal context suffered. As long someone suffered and underwent

pain, the prediction as per the national chart on the say, 16th November, had

been fulfilled. This is very wrong.

 

You said 'Why to happen, when to happen and where to happen are decided

by the authority of Planets based on the time factor " But isn;t this timing

given to us by way of a guide in our astrological studies. Haven't the secrets

of the sages being made available to us? Then what is that you are trying to say

afresh? What you have been saying in your post is at times confusing, at times

contradictory and really haven;t cleared any my doubts. If anything you are

trying to break new ground with a fresh thinking outside the parameters of teh

SA.

 

Lastly, may I ask you to bear one thing in mind, if you want to explain

something to others, you must know your subject, been persuasive and, more

importantly, be consistent in your thoughts and writings.

 

Percy

 

Amar Puri <absolutefinancial wrote:

Hello Dear Percy and the List Members,

 

Hare Krishna.

 

Mundane Astrology is based on mundane chart errected on speculative time by

an Astrologer who reads the chart based on his/her competent knowledge. As

we know timing is the essence. Thus, the competance of an Astrologer is

also governed by Planets to which the Astrologer wish to read and interpret

the events depicting in the mundane chart which is under influence of the

Planetary system as well. So, planets control everything under the order of

the Supreme Personality of Godhead Shri Krishna, as per Bhagvat-Gita. Time

is the essence of everything. And Krishna says in the Bhagat Gita, " Time

(Kaal) I am " .

 

The Law and Order of Nature are working under the Time. Things does happen

to sustain and maintain the Law and Order of Nature in this material world

we live in. Why to happen, when to happen and where to happen are decided

by the authority of Planets based on the time factor.

 

Nothing major incidents happened in India as of November 16 according to

you, nevertheless, there were disturbances/losses as pointed out by

Respected Professor keeping in mind the speculative timing of errecting

Indian chart keeping in mind the speculative timing of errecting

Indian chart

Besides seeing the material benefit or disastraous situation through

Astrology, there is also a Spiritual aspect which is very vital and its main

reason why this Jyotish Vidya was introduced by Maharishi Brigu who is

incarnation of Lord Shri Krishna in the Treta Yuga so that the people get

relief from the material suffering through Prayes in order to eleviate

oneself to the Spiritual platform of sat chit annand vighra. So, it is the

power of the Prayers also help to minimise the effects of any miserable

condition which is further proved by the example of Shri Prahlad Maharaja

who was put through so much material sufferings by his own father but each

time his prayer to the Supreme Lord Shri Krishna saved him.

 

Without any further due, I beg to ask you, if there is any question, please

feel free to write.

 

 

Best wishes and regards ...........................Amar Puri.

 

 

> " percymercy21 "

 

>

>

> Transits as on 16th November

>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:17:06 -0000

>

>The transit as it happened on the 16th was supposed to be eathmoving.

>But the events as listed by Prof. is the mundane stuff you normally get

>in India in any time of the year. So nothing special. Except that we

>had hoped that the planets will do its job as per its functional nature

>on the day in querstion. But if it doesn't, we conveniently fall back

>on the prayers of some saints who helped appease the planets. Isn't it

>humbuggery or worse unscientific tp blow hot and cold.

>

>

>

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Hello Percy and list members,

 

A. Planetary behaviour is studied and predicted for happy or unhappy events.

As written in SA books, astrologers cannot describe things like the live

commentary and it is true for me. I made the following prediction on 8th

November, 2006:

 

quote

B. In Indian independence chart the planetary positions are going to be

unfavorably poised in the next week and are indicative of some major

accident, earthquake, group deaths, major controvercies, financial setback,

etc. and specially

around 16th November, 2006.

unquote

 

C. The following events took place around 16th :

 

11th Nov - 4.7 richtor scale earthquake in eastern India.

 

12th Nov - 6 persons run over by speeding car in Bandra, Mumbai. 15 injured.

 

Blast in North east.

 

12th Nov

Encephlitis kills 300 persons in UP reported.

 

Tinsukia - Blast in oil pipe line.

 

Singaneri coal mines blast - 6 dead.

 

16th November.

 

HC order against trust of Mrs. Scindia CM

 

10 Al Queda terrorists reported to have entered India and planned to hyjack

planes, destroy important infrastructures and nuclear installations. All

international airports were put up maximum security.

 

17 Nov

 

- Indo US Nuclear deal approved by Senate.

 

Dispute in UP & Delhi - DTC not allowed to enter UP.

 

Curfew in Solapur regarding Dalit murders.

 

Law and order problem in Kanpur due to dacoities and murders.

 

Dharna in Mumbai for Reliance Electric bills.

 

Media brought out the Video showing the presence of about 500 terrorists

near to Army camps on border.

 

19th Nov

 

100 admitted to Hospital in Lucknow for food poisoning.

 

Bridge collapses ub Kinnore (HP) & 2 trucks drowned.

 

20th Nov

Explosion in train - 10 killed & more than 50 seriously injured.

 

22nd Nov

Calcutta - Tapsia fire - 12 killed.

 

D. Those who think some predictions can be made based on the SA principles

can follow or continue to follow SA

and those who think SA cannot make predictions they can pursure their own

choice.

 

E. Discussions cannot lead us anywhere as both the predictions and the

events are already there and it is only individual appreciation as per one's

own understanding.

 

And I think it is better this topic is closed here.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

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Dear Vyas,

 

I am certainly argumentative due to Mars in Lagna

in MEP . Mars is ints own house in Aries in

Navamsa . But the same Mars has given me the

confidence, friendly nature , agressiveness etc. But

sometimes when I start arguing, I am not able to

apply my brakes. I should control that . The

presence of Mars only made me a person who

believes in calling a spade a spade.

 

I never wanted to hurt you or Prof intentionally

.. You may be able to appreciate because of Jup

in the 5th house in its sign .

 

SG

--- Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

 

> Hello Mr Gopalkrishnan,

>

> Tr Ra/Ke closely influences Na Ke/Ra and vice versa

> Na Ra closely influences Na Mo

> Na Ke closely influences Tr Ma, Ju

> Tr Ra afflicts influences Tr Ma

> Tr Mo afflicts H6, H12 presently

>

> There are beneficial influences as well, but the

> negatives take precedence. The situation is

> difficult for you. SA remedies are likely to help

> somewhat. Next week is difficult for you as well wrt

> to conflicts through speech, writing, and status

> with Mercury under Rahu's gaze - natal Rahu sits in

> H6.

>

> With MMP Mo transiting your H5 recently and

> afflicting natal Jupiter and Venus, this conflict

> started. The Moon sits in H10 - the MEP is close

> under Ra from H6. LO9 Mars under Rahu gives

> conflicts in astrology for you.

>

> With respect to learning astrology, strong Ju and

> Venus with their mutual aspect are very nice

> blessings in your chart, however the weak LO9, Mars,

> is in extreme infancy and combust. Close to the MEP

> in H1, this gives you a fiery, argumentative nature.

> This is accented by the Moon's conflicting nature

> discussed and the LO1 and LO2 sit in Cancer, H12 -

> this can put you in conficts your entire life if the

> remedies aren't followed. LO9 is very important in

> astrology. Jupiter's exact influence on H9 helps to

> a good degree and is the reason why you are

> interested in astrology. Learn with patience and

> focus exclusively on SA for a few months and seek

> the blessings of and you can

> learn thoroughly.

>

> As far as your expressed anger towards me goes, I

> have taken no offence personally in part because I

> understand your chart. If my words stuck you as

> harsh, it was in response to your rudeness to our SA

> founder. If rudeness wasn't the intention, it

> certainly came off poorly because we all thought so.

> It is good that you have apologized to our dear

> Professor - this pleases me greatly and makes me

> realize that progress is being made. Let this end

> here before it gets worse for you.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

>

> -

> SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

>

> Saturday, November 25, 2006 11:35 AM

> Re: Transits as on 16th

> November

>

>

> Dear Mr Vyas,

>

> Transit Moon will be there for only 2 1/4 days in

> every house. Transit Moons effect on the Natal

> Jupiter (which is strong in the MEP ) is not imp

> but the impact of Natal Moon (MMF) on Transit Jup

> is to be seen .I mean when they are

> close.Transit Jup is combust . Natal Rahu /ketu

> isin

> the MEP in the 6/12 houses spoiling all houses .

> TRansit Rahu/Ketu was afflicting on the house of

> 6-12 . It has entered 1-7 now . Transit Ketu are

> Transit Saturn are close only during Oct 2007 .

>

> Do not try to attribute my moods to planetary

> influence to prove your point.

>

> SG.

>

> --- Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

>

> > Hi Mr Gopalkrishnan,

> >

> > My words are simple ones that leave little for

> > interpretation when read as is.You obviously

> have

> > read too deeply and put a special spin on them -

> > they have indeed touched a nerve. Nevertheless,

> such

> > was not my intention. Please read them again in

> the

> > light of one man trying to help another without

> the

> > play of the false ego.

> >

> > The axis is causing some problems for you right

> now

> > from a natal and transit perspective. Tr Moon

> has

> > caused problems through your H5 and natal Ju.

> >

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Vyas Munidas

> >

> >

> > -

> > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

> >

> > Friday, November 24, 2006 9:30 AM

> > Re: Transits as on 16th

> > November

> >

> >

> > Dear Vyas,

> >

> > Your reply does not befit an astrologers words.

> > Anger is a sign of a weakling. You are getting

> > angry (you may feel that not angry but

> > sympathetic) at my mail only indicates that you

> > feel you have mastered SA .I expected an answer

> > from you as that you would be able to explain

> > all the charts as per SA which I am finding in

> > the EXPRESS STAR TELLER AND ASTROLOGICAL

> MAGAZINE.

> > Instead of that you are again intersted in

> > defending yourself. Dont tell me that you are

> > not bound to answer my questions. You may send a

>

> > reply in that fashion.I can very well anticipate

> > that

> > .You may give a piece of advice to learn

> > repeatedly.Perfect sign of a defender.

> >

> > Of late Mr Arun Rao is not participating in the

> > discussions. He was a person who used to not

> > only call a spade a spade but also will take

> > pains to delve into details and give a

> > satisfactory explanation. Cornering questions

> was

> > appreciated by him . God's grace , may or may

> not

> > be Gurus , will be there on him as he is one

> > person who is patient, understanding and accept

> > challenging questions for his development.

> >

> > If you are so confident about SA, why SATVA and

> > SAMVA are having two diff Lagnas for Bill Gates

> > . You are not keen on answering questions Your

> > reply in such fashions only indicate that you

> > want to adopt short cuts in life. Wish you good

> > luck

> >

> > SG

> > --- Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

> >

> > > Hello Mr Gopalkrishnan,

> > >

> > > Till date, you are not learning SA properly.

> > What is

> > > required, is the blessings of guru. You cannot

> > > achieve such by rudeness.

> > >

> > > I hope that you come around and take the

> > necessary

> > > steps as this SA and are

> very

> > > rare finds in this age.

> > >

> > >

> > > With good wishes for your progress,

> > >

> > > Vyas Munidas

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

> > >

> > > Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:51 AM

> > > Re: Transits as on 16th

> > > November

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mr Vyas,

> > >

> > > At the outset, Shri T.N Seshan,Former Election

> > > Commissioner of India had predicted Shri Rajiv

> > > Gandhis assasination.

> > >

> > > Astrology /Palmistry can be appreciated if and

>

> > > only if we analyse celebrities/Industrialists

> > > horoscope/hands and analyse the difference

> > between

> > > them and the Common Man. In SATVA Gates Lagna

> is

>

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Hello Mr Gopalkrishnan,

 

Yes, Jupiter helps alot in your chart. It brings some balance to the weak Mars.

 

Accurate perception, calling a spade a spade as you put it, is given by the

strength of the Moon in a nativity.

 

As far as I am concerned, the recent happenings are a non-issue and I have good

wishes for your progress in spiritual and material life.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

-

SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

Saturday, November 25, 2006 11:32 PM

Re: Transits as on 16th November

 

 

Dear Vyas,

 

I am certainly argumentative due to Mars in Lagna

in MEP . Mars is ints own house in Aries in

Navamsa . But the same Mars has given me the

confidence, friendly nature , agressiveness etc. But

sometimes when I start arguing, I am not able to

apply my brakes. I should control that . The

presence of Mars only made me a person who

believes in calling a spade a spade.

 

I never wanted to hurt you or Prof intentionally

. You may be able to appreciate because of Jup

in the 5th house in its sign .

 

SG

--- Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

 

> Hello Mr Gopalkrishnan,

>

> Tr Ra/Ke closely influences Na Ke/Ra and vice versa

> Na Ra closely influences Na Mo

> Na Ke closely influences Tr Ma, Ju

> Tr Ra afflicts influences Tr Ma

> Tr Mo afflicts H6, H12 presently

>

> There are beneficial influences as well, but the

> negatives take precedence. The situation is

> difficult for you. SA remedies are likely to help

> somewhat. Next week is difficult for you as well wrt

> to conflicts through speech, writing, and status

> with Mercury under Rahu's gaze - natal Rahu sits in

> H6.

>

> With MMP Mo transiting your H5 recently and

> afflicting natal Jupiter and Venus, this conflict

> started. The Moon sits in H10 - the MEP is close

> under Ra from H6. LO9 Mars under Rahu gives

> conflicts in astrology for you.

>

> With respect to learning astrology, strong Ju and

> Venus with their mutual aspect are very nice

> blessings in your chart, however the weak LO9, Mars,

> is in extreme infancy and combust. Close to the MEP

> in H1, this gives you a fiery, argumentative nature.

> This is accented by the Moon's conflicting nature

> discussed and the LO1 and LO2 sit in Cancer, H12 -

> this can put you in conficts your entire life if the

> remedies aren't followed. LO9 is very important in

> astrology. Jupiter's exact influence on H9 helps to

> a good degree and is the reason why you are

> interested in astrology. Learn with patience and

> focus exclusively on SA for a few months and seek

> the blessings of and you can

> learn thoroughly.

>

> As far as your expressed anger towards me goes, I

> have taken no offence personally in part because I

> understand your chart. If my words stuck you as

> harsh, it was in response to your rudeness to our SA

> founder. If rudeness wasn't the intention, it

> certainly came off poorly because we all thought so.

> It is good that you have apologized to our dear

> Professor - this pleases me greatly and makes me

> realize that progress is being made. Let this end

> here before it gets worse for you.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

>

> -

> SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

>

> Saturday, November 25, 2006 11:35 AM

> Re: Transits as on 16th

> November

>

>

> Dear Mr Vyas,

>

> Transit Moon will be there for only 2 1/4 days in

> every house. Transit Moons effect on the Natal

> Jupiter (which is strong in the MEP ) is not imp

> but the impact of Natal Moon (MMF) on Transit Jup

> is to be seen .I mean when they are

> close.Transit Jup is combust . Natal Rahu /ketu

> isin

> the MEP in the 6/12 houses spoiling all houses .

> TRansit Rahu/Ketu was afflicting on the house of

> 6-12 . It has entered 1-7 now . Transit Ketu are

> Transit Saturn are close only during Oct 2007 .

>

> Do not try to attribute my moods to planetary

> influence to prove your point.

>

> SG.

>

> --- Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

>

> > Hi Mr Gopalkrishnan,

> >

> > My words are simple ones that leave little for

> > interpretation when read as is.You obviously

> have

> > read too deeply and put a special spin on them -

> > they have indeed touched a nerve. Nevertheless,

> such

> > was not my intention. Please read them again in

> the

> > light of one man trying to help another without

> the

> > play of the false ego.

> >

> > The axis is causing some problems for you right

> now

> > from a natal and transit perspective. Tr Moon

> has

> > caused problems through your H5 and natal Ju.

> >

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Vyas Munidas

> >

> >

> > -

> > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

> >

> > Friday, November 24, 2006 9:30 AM

> > Re: Transits as on 16th

> > November

> >

> >

> > Dear Vyas,

> >

> > Your reply does not befit an astrologers words.

> > Anger is a sign of a weakling. You are getting

> > angry (you may feel that not angry but

> > sympathetic) at my mail only indicates that you

> > feel you have mastered SA .I expected an answer

> > from you as that you would be able to explain

> > all the charts as per SA which I am finding in

> > the EXPRESS STAR TELLER AND ASTROLOGICAL

> MAGAZINE.

> > Instead of that you are again intersted in

> > defending yourself. Dont tell me that you are

> > not bound to answer my questions. You may send a

>

> > reply in that fashion.I can very well anticipate

> > that

> > .You may give a piece of advice to learn

> > repeatedly.Perfect sign of a defender.

> >

> > Of late Mr Arun Rao is not participating in the

> > discussions. He was a person who used to not

> > only call a spade a spade but also will take

> > pains to delve into details and give a

> > satisfactory explanation. Cornering questions

> was

> > appreciated by him . God's grace , may or may

> not

> > be Gurus , will be there on him as he is one

> > person who is patient, understanding and accept

> > challenging questions for his development.

> >

> > If you are so confident about SA, why SATVA and

> > SAMVA are having two diff Lagnas for Bill Gates

> > . You are not keen on answering questions Your

> > reply in such fashions only indicate that you

> > want to adopt short cuts in life. Wish you good

> > luck

> >

> > SG

> > --- Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

> >

> > > Hello Mr Gopalkrishnan,

> > >

> > > Till date, you are not learning SA properly.

> > What is

> > > required, is the blessings of guru. You cannot

> > > achieve such by rudeness.

> > >

> > > I hope that you come around and take the

> > necessary

> > > steps as this SA and are

> very

> > > rare finds in this age.

> > >

> > >

> > > With good wishes for your progress,

> > >

> > > Vyas Munidas

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > SADASIVAN GOPALAKRISHNAN

> > >

> > > Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:51 AM

> > > Re: Transits as on 16th

> > > November

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Mr Vyas,

> > >

> > > At the outset, Shri T.N Seshan,Former Election

> > > Commissioner of India had predicted Shri Rajiv

> > > Gandhis assasination.

> > >

> > > Astrology /Palmistry can be appreciated if and

>

> > > only if we analyse celebrities/Industrialists

> > > horoscope/hands and analyse the difference

> > between

> > > them and the Common Man. In SATVA Gates Lagna

> is

>

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Hello Dear Percy and the List members,

 

Hare Krishna.

 

This is your perception how you take the message. How you understand it,

for example in a challenging spirit or others, shall form a challenging

query based on your challenging perception/spirit which may lead no where.

 

Respected Professor has already clerified the events as a Teacher and I gave

you the explaination based on the revealed scripture. So, both ways the

explaination is there. Now, you take it the way you decide according to

your FREE WILL however way it satisfies your whimsical mind.

 

Make no mistake, there is a higher authority than your or mine expectation

which controls and decides everything as a resultant effects in life on this

planet.

 

Thank you very much.

 

Best wishes and regards................Amar Puri.

 

 

>Percymercy21 Labder <percymercy21

>

>

>RE: Transits as on 16th November

>Sat, 25 Nov 2006 21:22:07 -0500 (EST)

>

>I did not want to further what I had expressed in my posts as I knew that

>the discussion will be diverted into areas such as faith, philosophy and

>the Creator etc. I should have know better.

>

> I was merely asking why events as per the planetary configuration acted

>contrary to our expectation. Then I get a whole lot of lecture(s) on what

>transpires or (conspires) behind the scene. That is not what I want to

>hear. If you seek refuge within this mysterious and spiritual realm

>(however you want to call it) each time you cannot explain your

>predictions, then there might as well be no principles of astrology for us

>to study. How then do you write a book on the behaviour of planets as per

>its impact on houses/signs and its interaction with planets by way of

>conjunction(s) and or aspects.

>

> Even a discussion on the India Chart drew a response from you, Amar,

>along the following lines 'keeping in mind the speculative timing of

>errecting

>Indian chart " . That means that even you are unsure of making predictions as

>per the present information where hundreds of accurate predcitions have

>been made by Prof and the others. But just because this time something was

>not

> right, you began ascribing the fault to the timing of the Indian chart.

>

> At one time in your post you even implied that disaster of any

>description is permissible, irrespective of its actual impact on the

>society or nation, iresspective of its size, scale or magnitude, as long

>someone or a group of people in a personal context suffered. As long

>someone suffered and underwent pain, the prediction as per the national

>chart on the say, 16th November, had been fulfilled. This is very wrong.

>

> You said 'Why to happen, when to happen and where to happen are decided

>by the authority of Planets based on the time factor " But isn;t this timing

>given to us by way of a guide in our astrological studies. Haven't the

>secrets of the sages being made available to us? Then what is that you are

>trying to say afresh? What you have been saying in your post is at times

>confusing, at times contradictory and really haven;t cleared any my doubts.

>If anything you are trying to break new ground with a fresh thinking

>outside the parameters of teh SA.

>

> Lastly, may I ask you to bear one thing in mind, if you want to explain

>something to others, you must know your subject, been persuasive and, more

>importantly, be consistent in your thoughts and writings.

>

> Percy

>

>Amar Puri <absolutefinancial wrote:

> Hello Dear Percy and the List Members,

>

>Hare Krishna.

>

>Mundane Astrology is based on mundane chart errected on speculative time by

>an Astrologer who reads the chart based on his/her competent knowledge. As

>we know timing is the essence. Thus, the competance of an Astrologer is

>also governed by Planets to which the Astrologer wish to read and interpret

>the events depicting in the mundane chart which is under influence of the

>Planetary system as well. So, planets control everything under the order of

>the Supreme Personality of Godhead Shri Krishna, as per Bhagvat-Gita. Time

>is the essence of everything. And Krishna says in the Bhagat Gita, " Time

>(Kaal) I am " .

>

>The Law and Order of Nature are working under the Time. Things does happen

>to sustain and maintain the Law and Order of Nature in this material world

>we live in. Why to happen, when to happen and where to happen are decided

>by the authority of Planets based on the time factor.

>

>Nothing major incidents happened in India as of November 16 according to

>you, nevertheless, there were disturbances/losses as pointed out by

>Respected Professor keeping in mind the speculative timing of errecting

>Indian chart keeping in mind the speculative timing of errecting

>Indian chart

>Besides seeing the material benefit or disastraous situation through

>Astrology, there is also a Spiritual aspect which is very vital and its

>main

>reason why this Jyotish Vidya was introduced by Maharishi Brigu who is

>incarnation of Lord Shri Krishna in the Treta Yuga so that the people get

>relief from the material suffering through Prayes in order to eleviate

>oneself to the Spiritual platform of sat chit annand vighra. So, it is the

>power of the Prayers also help to minimise the effects of any miserable

>condition which is further proved by the example of Shri Prahlad Maharaja

>who was put through so much material sufferings by his own father but each

>time his prayer to the Supreme Lord Shri Krishna saved him.

>

>Without any further due, I beg to ask you, if there is any question, please

>feel free to write.

>

>

>Best wishes and regards ...........................Amar Puri.

>

>

> > " percymercy21 "

>

> >

> >

> > Transits as on 16th November

> >Wed, 22 Nov 2006 02:17:06 -0000

> >

> >The transit as it happened on the 16th was supposed to be eathmoving.

> >But the events as listed by Prof. is the mundane stuff you normally get

> >in India in any time of the year. So nothing special. Except that we

> >had hoped that the planets will do its job as per its functional nature

> >on the day in querstion. But if it doesn't, we conveniently fall back

> >on the prayers of some saints who helped appease the planets. Isn't it

> >humbuggery or worse unscientific tp blow hot and cold.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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