Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Hello all, This is the daughter of the " Coast to Coast " radio show host, Art Bell. This alternative topic radio show is the largest of its kind with (tens of?) millions of listeners. He recently had a daughter and I thought it would be interesting to look at her chart: Asia Rayne Bell May 30, 2007 12:51pm Zone: 7 PDT Las Vegas, NV 115W08, 36N11 Child is Leo rising at 19:58. The nodal axis is exactly afflicting the MEP of the odd numbered houses and child is currently running the Rahu sub-period. The Sun is well-placed but weak due to its mooltrikona house being afflicted. It closely influences both the 10th/4th house MEPs. Mercury is the 2nd lord and is well-placed and strong in the 11th of income and shows status and income coming from accumulated wealth. This could also show income coming from communications-related fields and combination with the Sun in the 10th show high prominence in the field. Perhaps she will follow her father into the radio field. Venus is the 3rd lord and is utterly weak due to placement in the 12th house, afflicted mooltrikona house and extreme infancy. This could create significant problem or death for any younger siblings and puts to risk all 3rd house health related factors especially since Rahu casts and exact affliction to the 3rd house. Jupiter is the 5th lord and is well placed in the 4th house but debilitated in the navamsha and further weakened by having its mooltrikona house afflicted by Ketu. It placement in the 4th may show problems with the chest, heart and possible complications related to the liver and pancreas. Saturn is the 7th lord and is badly placed in the 12th house. It does cast a benefic aspect to the 2nd, 6th and 10th MEPs; though widely. Mars is the 9th lord and is badly placed in the 8th house. Mars casts a close aspect to the 8th, 11th, 2nd, and 3rd. This seems to connect good fortune related to inheritance and shows income and accumulation of wealth coming from same. However, the weak placement of Mars, as significator for brother, could show problems for the brother when under transit affliction. The Moon is the 12th lord and is well-placed in the 4th and unafflicting. However it is weak on account of infancy and debilitation. This shows a possible loss of the mother, mental peace and health problems related to 4th house significations. I would think that there could be some health problems given the close proximity of the nodes to the 1st house MEP while she is running the sub-period of Rahu. Any other comments or observations? Regards, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2007 Report Share Posted June 18, 2007 Hello Matt and all list members - I would like to add/ know if in this case no direct affliction or weaknesses of Sun and Jupiter should be considered as a more + ve. I know the weakness assigned to their MT houses though but would be interested to know opinions about no direct affliction to the well placed benefics - more importantly Sun and Jupiter! Best Regards, Surya Matt <MattX Monday, June 18, 2007 10:32:13 AM Art Bell's daugher - Asia Rayne Bell Hello all, This is the daughter of the " Coast to Coast " radio show host, Art Bell. This alternative topic radio show is the largest of its kind with (tens of?) millions of listeners. He recently had a daughter and I thought it would be interesting to look at her chart: Asia Rayne Bell May 30, 2007 12:51pm Zone: 7 PDT Las Vegas, NV 115W08, 36N11 Child is Leo rising at 19:58. The nodal axis is exactly afflicting the MEP of the odd numbered houses and child is currently running the Rahu sub-period. The Sun is well-placed but weak due to its mooltrikona house being afflicted. It closely influences both the 10th/4th house MEPs. Mercury is the 2nd lord and is well-placed and strong in the 11th of income and shows status and income coming from accumulated wealth. This could also show income coming from communications- related fields and combination with the Sun in the 10th show high prominence in the field. Perhaps she will follow her father into the radio field. Venus is the 3rd lord and is utterly weak due to placement in the 12th house, afflicted mooltrikona house and extreme infancy. This could create significant problem or death for any younger siblings and puts to risk all 3rd house health related factors especially since Rahu casts and exact affliction to the 3rd house. Jupiter is the 5th lord and is well placed in the 4th house but debilitated in the navamsha and further weakened by having its mooltrikona house afflicted by Ketu. It placement in the 4th may show problems with the chest, heart and possible complications related to the liver and pancreas. Saturn is the 7th lord and is badly placed in the 12th house. It does cast a benefic aspect to the 2nd, 6th and 10th MEPs; though widely. Mars is the 9th lord and is badly placed in the 8th house. Mars casts a close aspect to the 8th, 11th, 2nd, and 3rd. This seems to connect good fortune related to inheritance and shows income and accumulation of wealth coming from same. However, the weak placement of Mars, as significator for brother, could show problems for the brother when under transit affliction. The Moon is the 12th lord and is well-placed in the 4th and unafflicting. However it is weak on account of infancy and debilitation. This shows a possible loss of the mother, mental peace and health problems related to 4th house significations. I would think that there could be some health problems given the close proximity of the nodes to the 1st house MEP while she is running the sub-period of Rahu. Any other comments or observations? Regards, Matt ______________________________\ ____ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 dear matt: i, too, listen to art bell and coast to coast radio... glad you did his daughter's chart.. i thought your observations were very, very good. it is interesting to note that Sun, ruling father is well placed in the house of career. i think the ketu influence on Sun's MT sign, and the ninth house, has contributed to her father's interest in occult knowledge. it is doubtful she will have a younger sibling, as her father is now in his sixties and is probably not planning for other children. i also doubt that she will be an entrepreneur, as venus is weak and badly placed. however, she may have some artistic interest and even relationships with someone in a foreign land with saturn and venus in the twelfth house. i liked your point about family and accumulated wealth contributing to her income. best wishes. david hawthorne - Matt Monday, June 18, 2007 9:32 AM Art Bell's daugher - Asia Rayne Bell Hello all, This is the daughter of the " Coast to Coast " radio show host, Art Bell. This alternative topic radio show is the largest of its kind with (tens of?) millions of listeners. He recently had a daughter and I thought it would be interesting to look at her chart: Asia Rayne Bell May 30, 2007 12:51pm Zone: 7 PDT Las Vegas, NV 115W08, 36N11 Child is Leo rising at 19:58. The nodal axis is exactly afflicting the MEP of the odd numbered houses and child is currently running the Rahu sub-period. The Sun is well-placed but weak due to its mooltrikona house being afflicted. It closely influences both the 10th/4th house MEPs. Mercury is the 2nd lord and is well-placed and strong in the 11th of income and shows status and income coming from accumulated wealth. This could also show income coming from communications-related fields and combination with the Sun in the 10th show high prominence in the field. Perhaps she will follow her father into the radio field. Venus is the 3rd lord and is utterly weak due to placement in the 12th house, afflicted mooltrikona house and extreme infancy. This could create significant problem or death for any younger siblings and puts to risk all 3rd house health related factors especially since Rahu casts and exact affliction to the 3rd house. Jupiter is the 5th lord and is well placed in the 4th house but debilitated in the navamsha and further weakened by having its mooltrikona house afflicted by Ketu. It placement in the 4th may show problems with the chest, heart and possible complications related to the liver and pancreas. Saturn is the 7th lord and is badly placed in the 12th house. It does cast a benefic aspect to the 2nd, 6th and 10th MEPs; though widely. Mars is the 9th lord and is badly placed in the 8th house. Mars casts a close aspect to the 8th, 11th, 2nd, and 3rd. This seems to connect good fortune related to inheritance and shows income and accumulation of wealth coming from same. However, the weak placement of Mars, as significator for brother, could show problems for the brother when under transit affliction. The Moon is the 12th lord and is well-placed in the 4th and unafflicting. However it is weak on account of infancy and debilitation. This shows a possible loss of the mother, mental peace and health problems related to 4th house significations. I would think that there could be some health problems given the close proximity of the nodes to the 1st house MEP while she is running the sub-period of Rahu. Any other comments or observations? Regards, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 mr matt good to know he got a daughter may be he is coming back to normal i miss him very much i hope he would return to his regular routine of programming he is one of a kind god give him strenth and return to old scheduleof programing , thanks again matt for info and the chart readings takecare raj k. --- Matt <MattX wrote: > Hello all, > > This is the daughter of the " Coast to Coast " radio > show host, Art > Bell. This alternative topic radio show is the > largest of its kind > with (tens of?) millions of listeners. He recently > had a daughter and > I thought it would be interesting to look at her > chart: > > Asia Rayne Bell > May 30, 2007 > 12:51pm Zone: 7 PDT > Las Vegas, NV 115W08, 36N11 > > Child is Leo rising at 19:58. The nodal axis is > exactly afflicting > the MEP of the odd numbered houses and child is > currently running the > Rahu sub-period. > > The Sun is well-placed but weak due to its > mooltrikona house being > afflicted. It closely influences both the 10th/4th > house MEPs. > > Mercury is the 2nd lord and is well-placed and > strong in the 11th of > income and shows status and income coming from > accumulated wealth. > This could also show income coming from > communications-related fields > and combination with the Sun in the 10th show high > prominence in the > field. Perhaps she will follow her father into the > radio field. > > Venus is the 3rd lord and is utterly weak due to > placement in the 12th > house, afflicted mooltrikona house and extreme > infancy. This could > create significant problem or death for any younger > siblings and puts > to risk all 3rd house health related factors > especially since Rahu > casts and exact affliction to the 3rd house. > > Jupiter is the 5th lord and is well placed in the > 4th house but > debilitated in the navamsha and further weakened by > having its > mooltrikona house afflicted by Ketu. It placement > in the 4th may show > problems with the chest, heart and possible > complications related to > the liver and pancreas. > > Saturn is the 7th lord and is badly placed in the > 12th house. It does > cast a benefic aspect to the 2nd, 6th and 10th MEPs; > though widely. > > Mars is the 9th lord and is badly placed in the 8th > house. Mars casts > a close aspect to the 8th, 11th, 2nd, and 3rd. This > seems to connect > good fortune related to inheritance and shows income > and accumulation > of wealth coming from same. However, the weak > placement of Mars, as > significator for brother, could show problems for > the brother when > under transit affliction. > > The Moon is the 12th lord and is well-placed in the > 4th and > unafflicting. However it is weak on account of > infancy and > debilitation. This shows a possible loss of the > mother, mental peace > and health problems related to 4th house > significations. > > I would think that there could be some health > problems given the close > proximity of the nodes to the 1st house MEP while > she is running the > sub-period of Rahu. > > Any other comments or observations? > > Regards, > > Matt > > > > ______________________________\ ____Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on TV. http://tv./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Dear Raj K, Art Bell is hosting C to C during the weekends. He is remarried now having recovered from the loss of his wife to cancer some years back. You can get MP3 for a small monthly coast at: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/ Regards, Matt , kumar kumar <kumar07306 wrote: > > mr matt good to know he got a daughter may be he is > coming back to normal i miss him very much i hope he > would return to his regular routine of programming he > is one of a kind god give him strenth and return to > old scheduleof programing , thanks again matt for info > and the chart readings takecare raj k. > --- Matt <MattX wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 David, Great to hear from you and I'm very happy to be back to SATVA! Thanks for your comments and insights. I hadn't even considered the spiritual nor occult aspects in the chart. Duh! But now that you mention it, 9th lord Mars signifying her father is in the 8th of the occult and mystical sciences from where it aspects the 2nd of name/fame/wealth and the 3rd house of communications. Since the aspect of Ketu is from the 1st, it would appear that her dad would have a very strong influence on the development of her personality and opening her mind to these " other worldly " ideas.. With respect to the spouse being foreign, this is a good probability as her mom is Filipino and I believe a good deal younger than Art, and she may return to the Philippines in the years to come. Great point. I like, too, how you took the utter weakness of Venus as signifying a lack of a younger brother. What do you make of the close nodal influences across the 1/7 axis on health given the current sub-period of Rahu? Regards, Matt > > i, too, listen to art bell and coast to coast radio... > > glad you did his daughter's chart.. > > i thought your observations were very, very good. > > it is interesting to note that Sun, ruling father is well placed in the house of career. > > i think the ketu influence on Sun's MT sign, and the ninth house, has contributed to her father's interest in occult knowledge. > > it is doubtful she will have a younger sibling, as her father is now in his sixties and is probably not planning for other children. > > i also doubt that she will be an entrepreneur, as venus is weak and badly placed. > > however, she may have some artistic interest and even relationships with someone in a foreign land with saturn and venus in the twelfth house. > > i liked your point about family and accumulated wealth contributing to her income. > > best wishes. > > david hawthorne > TRUNCATED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Surya, With respect to Sun I wrote: " The Sun is well-placed but weak due to its mooltrikona house being afflicted. It closely influences both the 10th/4th house MEPs....the Sun in the 10th show high prominence in the field. " Since the Sun is strong and the nodal axis is JUST off range of affliction I think the impact will be career tensions and setbacks during the sub-periods of the Sun, Rahu and Ketu. With respect to Jupiter I wrote: " Jupiter is the 5th lord and is well placed in the 4th house but debilitated in the navamsha and further weakened by having its mooltrikona house afflicted by Ketu. It placement in the 4th may show problems with the chest, heart and possible complications related to the liver and pancreas. " (agreed no positive assessments made) So, Jupiter is weak by SA principles. With strengthening, as 5th lord, its proximity to the MEP of the 4th and aspects to the 8th, 10th, and 12th ties together the career (10th aspect) with occult/mystical studies (8th aspect), interest in spiritual studies (5th lordship) and could show travel overseas(12th aspect) for learning about these topics or possible residence abroad (placement in 4th with aspect to 12th). Thanks for your comments, Matt , SURYA TYAGI <suryat wrote: > > Hello Matt and all list members - > > I would like to add/ know if in this case no direct affliction or weaknesses of Sun and Jupiter should be considered as a more + ve. I know the weakness assigned to their MT houses though but would be interested to know opinions about no direct affliction to the well placed benefics - more importantly Sun and Jupiter! > > Best Regards, > Surya > > > > Matt <MattX > > Monday, June 18, 2007 10:32:13 AM > Art Bell's daugher - Asia Rayne Bell > > Hello all, > > This is the daughter of the " Coast to Coast " radio show host, Art > Bell. This alternative topic radio show is the largest of its kind > with (tens of?) millions of listeners. He recently had a daughter and > I thought it would be interesting to look at her chart: > > Asia Rayne Bell > May 30, 2007 > 12:51pm Zone: 7 PDT > Las Vegas, NV 115W08, 36N11 > > Child is Leo rising at 19:58. The nodal axis is exactly afflicting > the MEP of the odd numbered houses and child is currently running the > Rahu sub-period. > > The Sun is well-placed but weak due to its mooltrikona house being > afflicted. It closely influences both the 10th/4th house MEPs. > > Mercury is the 2nd lord and is well-placed and strong in the 11th of > income and shows status and income coming from accumulated wealth. > This could also show income coming from communications- related fields > and combination with the Sun in the 10th show high prominence in the > field. Perhaps she will follow her father into the radio field. > > Venus is the 3rd lord and is utterly weak due to placement in the 12th > house, afflicted mooltrikona house and extreme infancy. This could > create significant problem or death for any younger siblings and puts > to risk all 3rd house health related factors especially since Rahu > casts and exact affliction to the 3rd house. > > Jupiter is the 5th lord and is well placed in the 4th house but > debilitated in the navamsha and further weakened by having its > mooltrikona house afflicted by Ketu. It placement in the 4th may show > problems with the chest, heart and possible complications related to > the liver and pancreas. > > Saturn is the 7th lord and is badly placed in the 12th house. It does > cast a benefic aspect to the 2nd, 6th and 10th MEPs; though widely. > > Mars is the 9th lord and is badly placed in the 8th house. Mars casts > a close aspect to the 8th, 11th, 2nd, and 3rd. This seems to connect > good fortune related to inheritance and shows income and accumulation > of wealth coming from same. However, the weak placement of Mars, as > significator for brother, could show problems for the brother when > under transit affliction. > > The Moon is the 12th lord and is well-placed in the 4th and > unafflicting. However it is weak on account of infancy and > debilitation. This shows a possible loss of the mother, mental peace > and health problems related to 4th house significations. > > I would think that there could be some health problems given the close > proximity of the nodes to the 1st house MEP while she is running the > sub-period of Rahu. > > Any other comments or observations? > > Regards, > > Matt > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search > http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 Hello Dear Matt - Point well taken..... Your analysis is as perfect as it could get. My compliments to you. I am completely on board with you about the analysis on Sun and Jupiter as it is very well done with the balanced application of SA principles. I applogize, if I sounded unclear in my first attempt in regards to the nature of my comments. However, in one of the previous message, I believe Sun and Jupiter were mentioned as 2 planets if were in strength, as in the case of this horoscope (other weaknesses exists as mentioned by you earlier), lead the native to high spiritual progress path. In that context I wondered if such progress continues if the planets are 1) Well placed; 2) Strong (in Degrees); 3) are not directly afflicted - on the spot basis. In this whole picture, I thought there may be a degree of progress that can still be attained given (as analyzed by you) that the MT house(s) are afflicted by the nodes and the Jupiter is debilitated in Navamsa making it further weak. In a nutshell, I am not sure if it is all or nothing in a situation where the planets are in strength with many factors and then lack strength on account of few. In other words if it is mathematical model we could perhaps say the strength of Sun & Jupiter and also considering some weaknesses will lead the native thru spritual progress path with few challenges - possibility of success good or alternatively, unless the planets are strengthen the progress will not be possible as the weaknesses will be detrimental and will not allow the success unless proper remedies are done. Realistically speaking I am certain that this might not be an easy question with so many other factors in play in any given chart but may be someone might have lead to it. Best Wishes, Surya Matt <MattX Tuesday, June 19, 2007 10:35:35 AM Re: Art Bell's daugher - Asia Rayne Bell Surya, With respect to Sun I wrote: " The Sun is well-placed but weak due to its mooltrikona house being afflicted. It closely influences both the 10th/4th house MEPs....the Sun in the 10th show high prominence in the field. " Since the Sun is strong and the nodal axis is JUST off range of affliction I think the impact will be career tensions and setbacks during the sub-periods of the Sun, Rahu and Ketu. With respect to Jupiter I wrote: " Jupiter is the 5th lord and is well placed in the 4th house but debilitated in the navamsha and further weakened by having its mooltrikona house afflicted by Ketu. It placement in the 4th may show problems with the chest, heart and possible complications related to the liver and pancreas. " (agreed no positive assessments made) So, Jupiter is weak by SA principles. With strengthening, as 5th lord, its proximity to the MEP of the 4th and aspects to the 8th, 10th, and 12th ties together the career (10th aspect) with occult/mystical studies (8th aspect), interest in spiritual studies (5th lordship) and could show travel overseas(12th aspect) for learning about these topics or possible residence abroad (placement in 4th with aspect to 12th). Thanks for your comments, Matt @ s.com, SURYA TYAGI <suryat wrote: > > Hello Matt and all list members - > > I would like to add/ know if in this case no direct affliction or weaknesses of Sun and Jupiter should be considered as a more + ve. I know the weakness assigned to their MT houses though but would be interested to know opinions about no direct affliction to the well placed benefics - more importantly Sun and Jupiter! > > Best Regards, > Surya > > > > Matt <MattX > @ s.com > Monday, June 18, 2007 10:32:13 AM > Art Bell's daugher - Asia Rayne Bell > > Hello all, > > This is the daughter of the " Coast to Coast " radio show host, Art > Bell. This alternative topic radio show is the largest of its kind > with (tens of?) millions of listeners. He recently had a daughter and > I thought it would be interesting to look at her chart: > > Asia Rayne Bell > May 30, 2007 > 12:51pm Zone: 7 PDT > Las Vegas, NV 115W08, 36N11 > > Child is Leo rising at 19:58. The nodal axis is exactly afflicting > the MEP of the odd numbered houses and child is currently running the > Rahu sub-period. > > The Sun is well-placed but weak due to its mooltrikona house being > afflicted. It closely influences both the 10th/4th house MEPs. > > Mercury is the 2nd lord and is well-placed and strong in the 11th of > income and shows status and income coming from accumulated wealth. > This could also show income coming from communications- related fields > and combination with the Sun in the 10th show high prominence in the > field. Perhaps she will follow her father into the radio field. > > Venus is the 3rd lord and is utterly weak due to placement in the 12th > house, afflicted mooltrikona house and extreme infancy. This could > create significant problem or death for any younger siblings and puts > to risk all 3rd house health related factors especially since Rahu > casts and exact affliction to the 3rd house. > > Jupiter is the 5th lord and is well placed in the 4th house but > debilitated in the navamsha and further weakened by having its > mooltrikona house afflicted by Ketu. It placement in the 4th may show > problems with the chest, heart and possible complications related to > the liver and pancreas. > > Saturn is the 7th lord and is badly placed in the 12th house. It does > cast a benefic aspect to the 2nd, 6th and 10th MEPs; though widely. > > Mars is the 9th lord and is badly placed in the 8th house. Mars casts > a close aspect to the 8th, 11th, 2nd, and 3rd. This seems to connect > good fortune related to inheritance and shows income and accumulation > of wealth coming from same. However, the weak placement of Mars, as > significator for brother, could show problems for the brother when > under transit affliction. > > The Moon is the 12th lord and is well-placed in the 4th and > unafflicting. However it is weak on account of infancy and > debilitation. This shows a possible loss of the mother, mental peace > and health problems related to 4th house significations. > > I would think that there could be some health problems given the close > proximity of the nodes to the 1st house MEP while she is running the > sub-period of Rahu. > > Any other comments or observations? > > Regards, > > Matt > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search > http://search. / search?fr= oni_on_mail & p=graduation+ gifts & cs= bz > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2007 Report Share Posted June 19, 2007 mr. matt thanks for the info takecare and godbless raj k [ps. i am in newyork area is it onn in 770 wabc i hear on weekend but not sure but i try now in week days thanks] --- Matt <MattX wrote: > Dear Raj K, > > Art Bell is hosting C to C during the weekends. He > is remarried now > having recovered from the loss of his wife to cancer > some years back. > You can get MP3 for a small monthly coast at: > http://www.coasttocoastam.com/ > > Regards, > > Matt > > , kumar kumar > <kumar07306 wrote: > > > > mr matt good to know he got a daughter may be he > is > > coming back to normal i miss him very much i hope > he > > would return to his regular routine of programming > he > > is one of a kind god give him strenth and return > to > > old scheduleof programing , thanks again matt for > info > > and the chart readings takecare raj k. > > --- Matt <MattX wrote: > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Luggage? GPS? Comic books? Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Dear Matt Good you are back.How are y0u keeping.Thank K. Batra. - Matt Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:05 PM Re: Art Bell's daugher - Asia Rayne Bell Surya, With respect to Sun I wrote: " The Sun is well-placed but weak due to its mooltrikona house being afflicted. It closely influences both the 10th/4th house MEPs....the Sun in the 10th show high prominence in the field. " Since the Sun is strong and the nodal axis is JUST off range of affliction I think the impact will be career tensions and setbacks during the sub-periods of the Sun, Rahu and Ketu. With respect to Jupiter I wrote: " Jupiter is the 5th lord and is well placed in the 4th house but debilitated in the navamsha and further weakened by having its mooltrikona house afflicted by Ketu. It placement in the 4th may show problems with the chest, heart and possible complications related to the liver and pancreas. " (agreed no positive assessments made) So, Jupiter is weak by SA principles. With strengthening, as 5th lord, its proximity to the MEP of the 4th and aspects to the 8th, 10th, and 12th ties together the career (10th aspect) with occult/mystical studies (8th aspect), interest in spiritual studies (5th lordship) and could show travel overseas(12th aspect) for learning about these topics or possible residence abroad (placement in 4th with aspect to 12th). Thanks for your comments, Matt , SURYA TYAGI <suryat wrote: > > Hello Matt and all list members - > > I would like to add/ know if in this case no direct affliction or weaknesses of Sun and Jupiter should be considered as a more + ve. I know the weakness assigned to their MT houses though but would be interested to know opinions about no direct affliction to the well placed benefics - more importantly Sun and Jupiter! > > Best Regards, > Surya > > > > Matt <MattX > > Monday, June 18, 2007 10:32:13 AM > Art Bell's daugher - Asia Rayne Bell > > Hello all, > > This is the daughter of the " Coast to Coast " radio show host, Art > Bell. This alternative topic radio show is the largest of its kind > with (tens of?) millions of listeners. He recently had a daughter and > I thought it would be interesting to look at her chart: > > Asia Rayne Bell > May 30, 2007 > 12:51pm Zone: 7 PDT > Las Vegas, NV 115W08, 36N11 > > Child is Leo rising at 19:58. The nodal axis is exactly afflicting > the MEP of the odd numbered houses and child is currently running the > Rahu sub-period. > > The Sun is well-placed but weak due to its mooltrikona house being > afflicted. It closely influences both the 10th/4th house MEPs. > > Mercury is the 2nd lord and is well-placed and strong in the 11th of > income and shows status and income coming from accumulated wealth. > This could also show income coming from communications- related fields > and combination with the Sun in the 10th show high prominence in the > field. Perhaps she will follow her father into the radio field. > > Venus is the 3rd lord and is utterly weak due to placement in the 12th > house, afflicted mooltrikona house and extreme infancy. This could > create significant problem or death for any younger siblings and puts > to risk all 3rd house health related factors especially since Rahu > casts and exact affliction to the 3rd house. > > Jupiter is the 5th lord and is well placed in the 4th house but > debilitated in the navamsha and further weakened by having its > mooltrikona house afflicted by Ketu. It placement in the 4th may show > problems with the chest, heart and possible complications related to > the liver and pancreas. > > Saturn is the 7th lord and is badly placed in the 12th house. It does > cast a benefic aspect to the 2nd, 6th and 10th MEPs; though widely. > > Mars is the 9th lord and is badly placed in the 8th house. Mars casts > a close aspect to the 8th, 11th, 2nd, and 3rd. This seems to connect > good fortune related to inheritance and shows income and accumulation > of wealth coming from same. However, the weak placement of Mars, as > significator for brother, could show problems for the brother when > under transit affliction. > > The Moon is the 12th lord and is well-placed in the 4th and > unafflicting. However it is weak on account of infancy and > debilitation. This shows a possible loss of the mother, mental peace > and health problems related to 4th house significations. > > I would think that there could be some health problems given the close > proximity of the nodes to the 1st house MEP while she is running the > sub-period of Rahu. > > Any other comments or observations? > > Regards, > > Matt > > > > > > > ________ > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search > http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Dear Dr. Batra, I am fine, thank you. I hope you are well also. Regards, Matt , batrahosp <batrahosp wrote: > > Dear Matt > Good you are back.How are y0u keeping.Thank > K. Batra. > - > Matt > > Tuesday, June 19, 2007 8:05 PM > Re: Art Bell's daugher - Asia Rayne Bell > > > Surya, > > With respect to Sun I wrote: > > " The Sun is well-placed but weak due to its mooltrikona house being > afflicted. It closely influences both the 10th/4th house MEPs....the > Sun in the 10th show high prominence in the field. " > > Since the Sun is strong and the nodal axis is JUST off range of > affliction I think the impact will be career tensions and setbacks > during the sub-periods of the Sun, Rahu and Ketu. > > With respect to Jupiter I wrote: > > " Jupiter is the 5th lord and is well placed in the 4th house but > debilitated in the navamsha and further weakened by having its > mooltrikona house afflicted by Ketu. It placement in the 4th may show > problems with the chest, heart and possible complications related to > the liver and pancreas. " (agreed no positive assessments made) > > So, Jupiter is weak by SA principles. With strengthening, as 5th > lord, its proximity to the MEP of the 4th and aspects to the 8th, > 10th, and 12th ties together the career (10th aspect) with > occult/mystical studies (8th aspect), interest in spiritual studies > (5th lordship) and could show travel overseas(12th aspect) for > learning about these topics or possible residence abroad (placement in > 4th with aspect to 12th). > > Thanks for your comments, > > Matt > > > , SURYA TYAGI <suryat@> wrote: > > > > Hello Matt and all list members - > > > > I would like to add/ know if in this case no direct affliction or > weaknesses of Sun and Jupiter should be considered as a more + ve. I > know the weakness assigned to their MT houses though but would be > interested to know opinions about no direct affliction to the well > placed benefics - more importantly Sun and Jupiter! > > > > Best Regards, > > Surya > > > > > > > > Matt <MattX@> > > > > Monday, June 18, 2007 10:32:13 AM > > Art Bell's daugher - Asia Rayne Bell > > > > Hello all, > > > > This is the daughter of the " Coast to Coast " radio show host, Art > > Bell. This alternative topic radio show is the largest of its kind > > with (tens of?) millions of listeners. He recently had a daughter and > > I thought it would be interesting to look at her chart: > > > > Asia Rayne Bell > > May 30, 2007 > > 12:51pm Zone: 7 PDT > > Las Vegas, NV 115W08, 36N11 > > > > Child is Leo rising at 19:58. The nodal axis is exactly afflicting > > the MEP of the odd numbered houses and child is currently running the > > Rahu sub-period. > > > > The Sun is well-placed but weak due to its mooltrikona house being > > afflicted. It closely influences both the 10th/4th house MEPs. > > > > Mercury is the 2nd lord and is well-placed and strong in the 11th of > > income and shows status and income coming from accumulated wealth. > > This could also show income coming from communications- related fields > > and combination with the Sun in the 10th show high prominence in the > > field. Perhaps she will follow her father into the radio field. > > > > Venus is the 3rd lord and is utterly weak due to placement in the 12th > > house, afflicted mooltrikona house and extreme infancy. This could > > create significant problem or death for any younger siblings and puts > > to risk all 3rd house health related factors especially since Rahu > > casts and exact affliction to the 3rd house. > > > > Jupiter is the 5th lord and is well placed in the 4th house but > > debilitated in the navamsha and further weakened by having its > > mooltrikona house afflicted by Ketu. It placement in the 4th may show > > problems with the chest, heart and possible complications related to > > the liver and pancreas. > > > > Saturn is the 7th lord and is badly placed in the 12th house. It does > > cast a benefic aspect to the 2nd, 6th and 10th MEPs; though widely. > > > > Mars is the 9th lord and is badly placed in the 8th house. Mars casts > > a close aspect to the 8th, 11th, 2nd, and 3rd. This seems to connect > > good fortune related to inheritance and shows income and accumulation > > of wealth coming from same. However, the weak placement of Mars, as > > significator for brother, could show problems for the brother when > > under transit affliction. > > > > The Moon is the 12th lord and is well-placed in the 4th and > > unafflicting. However it is weak on account of infancy and > > debilitation. This shows a possible loss of the mother, mental peace > > and health problems related to 4th house significations. > > > > I would think that there could be some health problems given the close > > proximity of the nodes to the 1st house MEP while she is running the > > sub-period of Rahu. > > > > Any other comments or observations? > > > > Regards, > > > > Matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > Luggage? GPS? Comic books? > > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search > > http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2007 Report Share Posted June 21, 2007 Surya, No apologies necessary. I didn't think your questions were anything more than a request for clarification. : >) Jupiter provides Divine grace and morality. So, strength in Jupiter signifies one who has learned the lessons of morality and has great respect for God. The state of Jupiter would show a spectrum of morality from Saint to sinner based upon the extent of weaknesses and/or afflictions to it and its Mooltrikona house (all other things being equal). In this case, Ketu is afflicting the 5th house MEP of Sag. and thereby weakens Jupiter who is also debilitated in the Navamsha. Additionally, she will finish main period of Jupiter at age 2. So the potentially positive long-term/dasa involvement of Jupiter is cut short. Not until Ketu main period, in her late thirties, will the possible spiritual influences of Ketu take hold as it aspects the 5th and 9th which I would consider good for those pursuits. The Sun represents the soul which can be defined as the spiritual intelligence and where physical vitality becomes a reflection of same (again, all other things being equal). In this case, the Sun is well-placed but its mooltrikona sign is afflicted. Since the Sun is the lagnesh for Leo rising I think this affliction is serious as everything must be seen from the ascendant and its lord. So, again, it appears that until the Ketu main period there would not be development or serious spiritual pursuits until mid-life as the Sun's dasa does not run until her mid-60's. Though we cannot " judge " spirituality since we all have free will, the strength of Jupiter and the Sun will show how hard or easy the road. Additionally, we need to see their dasa influences at various developmental stages of life. Anything I could say about the spiritual implications of weaknesses and/or afflictions is bound to insult someone. I consider myself spiritual in spite of the fact that every planet in my chart is weak on some account by S.A. principles (I'll provide birth details if int'd). In MY opinion, not to be considered as SATVA-approved by Sri Choudhry, I think the following about planetary factors: STRENGTH: Represents the maturation and full application of a skill/character trait and significations (ie. Sun= self-confidence, Saturn=will-power, Mars=courage etc..). WEAKNESS: Represents the incomplete maturation and incomplete development of the character trait. It could also represents a regression, or devolution, of the skill/character trait. AFFLICTION: Represents a turning away from Divinity with respect to the character trait/significations of the planet/house. My logic is that if we view the objective of each incarnation as the movement towards Divinity then with each iteration we should carry forward both our strengths and weakness much like talents or character flaws, respectively. Our talents, in the form of planetary strengths, bring us opportunities for growth, fame, success and enjoyment in life based on their significations. Our character flaws, in the form of planetary weaknesses, lead to " tests " that we learn to " pass " by developing the necessary fortitude and strength. Afflictions are very strong tests that require a catharsis and often a re-balancing of an entire value system through upheaval. So, I think God provides a delicate, or not so delicate, balance for each of us, based on our unique and particular needs, to grow towards Divinity through the karma we live, both good and bad, as seen in our birth charts. Looking forward to comments and other views.... Regards, Matt , SURYA TYAGI <suryat wrote: > > Hello Dear Matt - > > Point well taken..... > Your analysis is as perfect as it could get. My compliments to you. > > I am completely on board with you about the analysis on Sun and Jupiter as it is very well done with the balanced application of SA principles. I applogize, if I sounded unclear in my first attempt in regards to the nature of my comments. > > However, in one of the previous message, I believe Sun and Jupiter were mentioned as 2 planets if were in strength, as in the case of this horoscope (other weaknesses exists as mentioned by you earlier), lead the native to high spiritual progress path. In that context I wondered if such progress continues if the planets are 1) Well placed; 2) Strong (in Degrees); 3) are not directly afflicted - on the spot basis. > > In this whole picture, I thought there may be a degree of progress that can still be attained given (as analyzed by you) that the MT house(s) are afflicted by the nodes and the Jupiter is debilitated in Navamsa making it further weak. In a nutshell, I am not sure if it is all or nothing in a situation where the planets are in strength with many factors and then lack strength on account of few. In other words if it is mathematical model we could perhaps say the strength of Sun & Jupiter and also considering some weaknesses will lead the native thru spritual progress path with few challenges - possibility of success good or alternatively, unless the planets are strengthen the progress will not be possible as the weaknesses will be detrimental and will not allow the success unless proper remedies are done. Realistically speaking I am certain that this might not be an easy question with so many other factors in play in any given chart but may be someone might have lead to it. > > Best Wishes, > Surya > TRUNCATED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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