Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 - Dear john, pls send details of ur analysis of US markets in detail & also the details of chart u are following & have u analysed the chart u r using with some significant events in US. Thanks ajay -- In , John Dorio <johndorio wrote: > > Dear Professor and List Members, > > I want to share my views on US mundane affairs. I > have been keeping records of the days when the Dow > Jones index drops signicantly and noted the position > of the moon in the USA chart. I can post these at a > later date is anyone is interested. > > With the chart based on July 4 1776, the current dasa > is the Moon and is the 8th lord. This explains 911 and > the other various calamities that have occurred over > recent years. > > The market seems to dip on the days when the Moon is > under the influence of Rahu or Ketu. I have records to > substantiate this finding. Let me know what you and > the other members think. I welcome your comments. > > Best regards, > John Dorio > > > > ___________________ _______________ > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Hello Mr. Dorio, This single factor cannot be dependable. On 4th July, 1776, Mars ruling the house of intellect was in extreme infancy and the lord of the tenth house was in the eighth house. The Moon was in the third house which rules communication. I do not accept this chart as the chart for US. Best wishes. - " John Dorio " <johndorio Monday, August 13, 2007 10:07 PM US Stock Markets and the Moon Dear Professor and List Members, I want to share my views on US mundane affairs. I have been keeping records of the days when the Dow Jones index drops signicantly and noted the position of the moon in the USA chart. I can post these at a later date is anyone is interested. With the chart based on July 4 1776, the current dasa is the Moon and is the 8th lord. This explains 911 and the other various calamities that have occurred over recent years. The market seems to dip on the days when the Moon is under the influence of Rahu or Ketu. I have records to substantiate this finding. Let me know what you and the other members think. I welcome your comments. Best regards, John Dorio ______________________________\ ____ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Answers - Check it out. http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Transiting Moon and Transiting Rahu and Ketu. I got the chart from Linda Johnson's book and it lists the current dasa as that of the Moon and is the 8th lord. I am away from my records but I will post the days of the drops in the Dow,the dates, and the Moon-Node relationships. In a Moon dasa, the transits of the Moon are completely relevant to the SA method. John --- Duke Amboy <dukeamboy wrote: > I would definitely be interested in see your > research. What chart are you > using and are you using transiting or natal Moon? > Transiting or natal > Rahu/Ketu? > > Thanks, > Duke > > On 8/13/07, John Dorio <johndorio wrote: > > > > Dear Professor and List Members, > > > > I want to share my views on US mundane affairs. I > > have been keeping records of the days when the Dow > > Jones index drops signicantly and noted the > position > > of the moon in the USA chart. I can post these at > a > > later date is anyone is interested. > > > > With the chart based on July 4 1776, the current > dasa > > is the Moon and is the 8th lord. This explains 911 > and > > the other various calamities that have occurred > over > > recent years. > > > > The market seems to dip on the days when the Moon > is > > under the influence of Rahu or Ketu. I have > records to > > substantiate this finding. Let me know what you > and > > the other members think. I welcome your comments. > > > > Best regards, > > John Dorio > > > > > ________ > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > answers from someone who > > knows. Answers - Check it out. > > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness./webhosting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Hello John, Take any chart around the world impact of Rahu and Ketu on the Moon will show some impact. This is not at all a dependable criteria. The USA Samva chart has Cancer rising and a dependable historical background and the Moon becomes an important factor being lord of the Asdt. So, the impact on the Moon is also pertinent here. Best wishes. - " John Dorio " <johndorio " Duke Amboy " <dukeamboy Cc: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:18 AM Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon Transiting Moon and Transiting Rahu and Ketu. I got the chart from Linda Johnson's book and it lists the current dasa as that of the Moon and is the 8th lord. I am away from my records but I will post the days of the drops in the Dow,the dates, and the Moon-Node relationships. In a Moon dasa, the transits of the Moon are completely relevant to the SA method. John --- Duke Amboy <dukeamboy wrote: > I would definitely be interested in see your > research. What chart are you > using and are you using transiting or natal Moon? > Transiting or natal > Rahu/Ketu? > > Thanks, > Duke > > On 8/13/07, John Dorio <johndorio wrote: > > > > Dear Professor and List Members, > > > > I want to share my views on US mundane affairs. I > > have been keeping records of the days when the Dow > > Jones index drops signicantly and noted the > position > > of the moon in the USA chart. I can post these at > a > > later date is anyone is interested. > > > > With the chart based on July 4 1776, the current > dasa > > is the Moon and is the 8th lord. This explains 911 > and > > the other various calamities that have occurred > over > > recent years. > > > > The market seems to dip on the days when the Moon > is > > under the influence of Rahu or Ketu. I have > records to > > substantiate this finding. Let me know what you > and > > the other members think. I welcome your comments. > > > > Best regards, > > John Dorio > > > > > ________ > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > answers from someone who > > knows. Answers - Check it out. > > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ Building a website is a piece of cake. Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness./webhosting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Thankyou for the clarification, professor. Can you forward me the chart data for the USA mundane chart? How does this chart account for the calamities that have occurred since Sept. 11, 2001? I want to thank you again for your careful guidance and assistance. Best regards, John Dorio --- siha wrote: > > Hello John, > > Take any chart around the world impact of Rahu and > Ketu on the Moon will > show some impact. This is not at all a dependable > criteria. The USA Samva > chart has Cancer rising and a dependable historical > background and the Moon > becomes an important factor being lord of the Asdt. > So, the impact on the > Moon is also pertinent here. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > - > " John Dorio " <johndorio > " Duke Amboy " <dukeamboy > Cc: > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:18 AM > Re: US Stock Markets and the > Moon > > > Transiting Moon and Transiting Rahu and Ketu. I got > the chart from Linda Johnson's book and it lists the > current dasa as that of the Moon and is the 8th > lord. > > I am away from my records but I will post the days > of > the drops in the Dow,the dates, and the Moon-Node > relationships. In a Moon dasa, the transits of the > Moon are completely relevant to the SA method. > > John > --- Duke Amboy <dukeamboy wrote: > > > I would definitely be interested in see your > > research. What chart are you > > using and are you using transiting or natal Moon? > > Transiting or natal > > Rahu/Ketu? > > > > Thanks, > > Duke > > > > On 8/13/07, John Dorio <johndorio > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Professor and List Members, > > > > > > I want to share my views on US mundane affairs. > I > > > have been keeping records of the days when the > Dow > > > Jones index drops signicantly and noted the > > position > > > of the moon in the USA chart. I can post these > at > > a > > > later date is anyone is interested. > > > > > > With the chart based on July 4 1776, the current > > dasa > > > is the Moon and is the 8th lord. This explains > 911 > > and > > > the other various calamities that have occurred > > over > > > recent years. > > > > > > The market seems to dip on the days when the > Moon > > is > > > under the influence of Rahu or Ketu. I have > > records to > > > substantiate this finding. Let me know what you > > and > > > the other members think. I welcome your > comments. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > John Dorio > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > > answers from someone who > > > knows. Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Small > Business gives you all > the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness./webhosting > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2007 Report Share Posted August 14, 2007 Hello dear Mr. Dorio, USA SAMVA CHART DETAILS 2nd February, 1781, 1705 Hrs. time zone 5.06LMT, Annapolis, MD, USA. Asdt 20 deg 59 minutes. Transit influences will show the calamities occurred since Sept. 11, 2001. Best wishes. - " John Dorio " <johndorio Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:15 PM Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon Thankyou for the clarification, professor. Can you forward me the chart data for the USA mundane chart? How does this chart account for the calamities that have occurred since Sept. 11, 2001? I want to thank you again for your careful guidance and assistance. Best regards, John Dorio --- siha wrote: > > Hello John, > > Take any chart around the world impact of Rahu and > Ketu on the Moon will > show some impact. This is not at all a dependable > criteria. The USA Samva > chart has Cancer rising and a dependable historical > background and the Moon > becomes an important factor being lord of the Asdt. > So, the impact on the > Moon is also pertinent here. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > - > " John Dorio " <johndorio > " Duke Amboy " <dukeamboy > Cc: > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:18 AM > Re: US Stock Markets and the > Moon > > > Transiting Moon and Transiting Rahu and Ketu. I got > the chart from Linda Johnson's book and it lists the > current dasa as that of the Moon and is the 8th > lord. > > I am away from my records but I will post the days > of > the drops in the Dow,the dates, and the Moon-Node > relationships. In a Moon dasa, the transits of the > Moon are completely relevant to the SA method. > > John > --- Duke Amboy <dukeamboy wrote: > > > I would definitely be interested in see your > > research. What chart are you > > using and are you using transiting or natal Moon? > > Transiting or natal > > Rahu/Ketu? > > > > Thanks, > > Duke > > > > On 8/13/07, John Dorio <johndorio > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Professor and List Members, > > > > > > I want to share my views on US mundane affairs. > I > > > have been keeping records of the days when the > Dow > > > Jones index drops signicantly and noted the > > position > > > of the moon in the USA chart. I can post these > at > > a > > > later date is anyone is interested. > > > > > > With the chart based on July 4 1776, the current > > dasa > > > is the Moon and is the 8th lord. This explains > 911 > > and > > > the other various calamities that have occurred > > over > > > recent years. > > > > > > The market seems to dip on the days when the > Moon > > is > > > under the influence of Rahu or Ketu. I have > > records to > > > substantiate this finding. Let me know what you > > and > > > the other members think. I welcome your > comments. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > John Dorio > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > > answers from someone who > > > knows. Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Small > Business gives you all > the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness./webhosting > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Thanks for the info. Here is my data and analysis with regard to the July 4, 1776 chart for Philadelphia around 6pm: Please refer to Linda Johnsen's book, " A Thousand Suns. " for more info on the mahadasas of the USA chart. She states that Moon dasa began on Mid-Oct 1998 and that the Mars dasa shall begin around Mid-October 2008. In the chart, the asc. is 8 deg. Sag. Today- 8.14.07 Ketu conjoins Moon $DJI (Dow Jones Index) drops 207 pts. 2.27.07 Rahu afflicts Moon 3.3% drop in Market 3.13.07 Market drops 243 pts. (1.9%) 2nd biggest drop in 4 yrs Ketu afflicts Moon 9.17.01 Ketu at 8:40 Sag. (Lagna MEP) Market lost lost 7.1% 4.14.00 Ketu at 6 deg Cap. (2nd house MEP) Market declined 5.7% 8.31.98 Sun mahadasa. Ketu at 7:35 Aq. (3rd house MEP)Market declined 6.4% 10.27.97 Sun Mahadasa. Rahu conjoins Moon in Leo Market declines 7.2% 10.18.87 Venus mahadasa. Ketu at 8:37 Vir. (10th house MEP) Market declined 22.6% The latter info and dates with the exception of that for 3.13.07 was published in the Dallas Morning News on Feb. 28, 2007. Some more recent dates and stats: 6.22.07 Moon at 8 deg. Vir. (10th house MEP) $DJI drops 167 pts. 7.26.07 Moon enters Sag. (1st house) $DJI drops 325 pts. 7.27.07 Moon transits Sag. $DJI drops about 200 pts. 8.14.07 Ketu conjoins Moon $DJI drops 207 pts. So it seems that my data shows that the birth chart of the USA may be centered on the lagna of 8 deg. Sag. The key here is 8 deg. This may give a clue to the mystery of the USA chart. What do you think? I welcome your comments. Best regards, John Dorio --- siha wrote: > > Hello dear Mr. Dorio, > > USA SAMVA CHART DETAILS > 2nd February, 1781, 1705 Hrs. time zone 5.06LMT, > Annapolis, MD, USA. > Asdt 20 deg 59 minutes. > > Transit influences will show the calamities > occurred since Sept. 11, 2001. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > - > " John Dorio " <johndorio > > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:15 PM > Re: US Stock Markets and the > Moon > > > Thankyou for the clarification, professor. Can you > forward me the chart data for the USA mundane chart? > > How does this chart account for the calamities that > have occurred since Sept. 11, 2001? > > I want to thank you again for your careful guidance > and assistance. > > Best regards, > John Dorio > > > --- siha wrote: > > > > > Hello John, > > > > Take any chart around the world impact of Rahu and > > Ketu on the Moon will > > show some impact. This is not at all a dependable > > criteria. The USA Samva > > chart has Cancer rising and a dependable > historical > > background and the Moon > > becomes an important factor being lord of the > Asdt. > > So, the impact on the > > Moon is also pertinent here. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > " John Dorio " <johndorio > > " Duke Amboy " <dukeamboy > > Cc: > > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:18 AM > > Re: US Stock Markets and the > > Moon > > > > > > Transiting Moon and Transiting Rahu and Ketu. I > got > > the chart from Linda Johnson's book and it lists > the > > current dasa as that of the Moon and is the 8th > > lord. > > > > I am away from my records but I will post the days > > of > > the drops in the Dow,the dates, and the Moon-Node > > relationships. In a Moon dasa, the transits of the > > Moon are completely relevant to the SA method. > > > > John > > --- Duke Amboy <dukeamboy wrote: > > > > > I would definitely be interested in see your > > > research. What chart are you > > > using and are you using transiting or natal > Moon? > > > Transiting or natal > > > Rahu/Ketu? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Duke > > > > > > On 8/13/07, John Dorio <johndorio > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Professor and List Members, > > > > > > > > I want to share my views on US mundane > affairs. > > I > > > > have been keeping records of the days when the > > Dow > > > > Jones index drops signicantly and noted the > > > position > > > > of the moon in the USA chart. I can post these > > at > > > a > > > > later date is anyone is interested. > > > > > > > > With the chart based on July 4 1776, the > current > > > dasa > > > > is the Moon and is the 8th lord. This explains > > 911 > > > and > > > > the other various calamities that have > occurred > > > over > > > > recent years. > > > > > > > > The market seems to dip on the days when the > > Moon > > > is > > > > under the influence of Rahu or Ketu. I have > > > records to > > > > substantiate this finding. Let me know what > you > > > and > > > > the other members think. I welcome your > > comments. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > John Dorio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better > relationship > > > answers from someone who > > > > knows. Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Small > > Business gives you all > > the tools to get online. > > http://smallbusiness./webhosting > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Hello Mr. Dorio, Thanks for putting up the data. But this chart does not respond to the requirements of the chart for US in my view. Time is too scarce to waste. Best wishes. - " John Dorio " <johndorio Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:33 AM Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon Thanks for the info. Here is my data and analysis with regard to the July 4, 1776 chart for Philadelphia around 6pm: Please refer to Linda Johnsen's book, " A Thousand Suns. " for more info on the mahadasas of the USA chart. She states that Moon dasa began on Mid-Oct 1998 and that the Mars dasa shall begin around Mid-October 2008. In the chart, the asc. is 8 deg. Sag. Today- 8.14.07 Ketu conjoins Moon $DJI (Dow Jones Index) drops 207 pts. 2.27.07 Rahu afflicts Moon 3.3% drop in Market 3.13.07 Market drops 243 pts. (1.9%) 2nd biggest drop in 4 yrs Ketu afflicts Moon 9.17.01 Ketu at 8:40 Sag. (Lagna MEP) Market lost lost 7.1% 4.14.00 Ketu at 6 deg Cap. (2nd house MEP) Market declined 5.7% 8.31.98 Sun mahadasa. Ketu at 7:35 Aq. (3rd house MEP)Market declined 6.4% 10.27.97 Sun Mahadasa. Rahu conjoins Moon in Leo Market declines 7.2% 10.18.87 Venus mahadasa. Ketu at 8:37 Vir. (10th house MEP) Market declined 22.6% The latter info and dates with the exception of that for 3.13.07 was published in the Dallas Morning News on Feb. 28, 2007. Some more recent dates and stats: 6.22.07 Moon at 8 deg. Vir. (10th house MEP) $DJI drops 167 pts. 7.26.07 Moon enters Sag. (1st house) $DJI drops 325 pts. 7.27.07 Moon transits Sag. $DJI drops about 200 pts. 8.14.07 Ketu conjoins Moon $DJI drops 207 pts. So it seems that my data shows that the birth chart of the USA may be centered on the lagna of 8 deg. Sag. The key here is 8 deg. This may give a clue to the mystery of the USA chart. What do you think? I welcome your comments. Best regards, John Dorio --- siha wrote: > > Hello dear Mr. Dorio, > > USA SAMVA CHART DETAILS > 2nd February, 1781, 1705 Hrs. time zone 5.06LMT, > Annapolis, MD, USA. > Asdt 20 deg 59 minutes. > > Transit influences will show the calamities > occurred since Sept. 11, 2001. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > - > " John Dorio " <johndorio > > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:15 PM > Re: US Stock Markets and the > Moon > > > Thankyou for the clarification, professor. Can you > forward me the chart data for the USA mundane chart? > > How does this chart account for the calamities that > have occurred since Sept. 11, 2001? > > I want to thank you again for your careful guidance > and assistance. > > Best regards, > John Dorio > > > --- siha wrote: > > > > > Hello John, > > > > Take any chart around the world impact of Rahu and > > Ketu on the Moon will > > show some impact. This is not at all a dependable > > criteria. The USA Samva > > chart has Cancer rising and a dependable > historical > > background and the Moon > > becomes an important factor being lord of the > Asdt. > > So, the impact on the > > Moon is also pertinent here. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > " John Dorio " <johndorio > > " Duke Amboy " <dukeamboy > > Cc: > > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:18 AM > > Re: US Stock Markets and the > > Moon > > > > > > Transiting Moon and Transiting Rahu and Ketu. I > got > > the chart from Linda Johnson's book and it lists > the > > current dasa as that of the Moon and is the 8th > > lord. > > > > I am away from my records but I will post the days > > of > > the drops in the Dow,the dates, and the Moon-Node > > relationships. In a Moon dasa, the transits of the > > Moon are completely relevant to the SA method. > > > > John > > --- Duke Amboy <dukeamboy wrote: > > > > > I would definitely be interested in see your > > > research. What chart are you > > > using and are you using transiting or natal > Moon? > > > Transiting or natal > > > Rahu/Ketu? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Duke > > > > > > On 8/13/07, John Dorio <johndorio > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Professor and List Members, > > > > > > > > I want to share my views on US mundane > affairs. > > I > > > > have been keeping records of the days when the > > Dow > > > > Jones index drops signicantly and noted the > > > position > > > > of the moon in the USA chart. I can post these > > at > > > a > > > > later date is anyone is interested. > > > > > > > > With the chart based on July 4 1776, the > current > > > dasa > > > > is the Moon and is the 8th lord. This explains > > 911 > > > and > > > > the other various calamities that have > occurred > > > over > > > > recent years. > > > > > > > > The market seems to dip on the days when the > > Moon > > > is > > > > under the influence of Rahu or Ketu. I have > > > records to > > > > substantiate this finding. Let me know what > you > > > and > > > > the other members think. I welcome your > > comments. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > John Dorio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better > relationship > > > answers from someone who > > > > knows. Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Building a website is a piece of cake. > Small > > Business gives you all > > the tools to get online. > > http://smallbusiness./webhosting > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Thanks for the info. Here is my data and analysis with regard to the July 4, 1776 chart for Philadelphia around 6pm: Please refer to Linda Johnsen's book, " A Thousand Suns. " for more info on the mahadasas of the USA chart. She states that Moon dasa began on Mid-Oct 1998 and that the Mars dasa shall begin around Mid-October 2008. In the chart, the asc. is 8 deg. Sag. Today- 8.14.07 Ketu conjoins Moon $DJI (Dow Jones Index) drops 207 pts. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 2.27.07 Rahu afflicts Moon 3.3% drop in Market 3.13.07 Market drops 243 pts. (1.9%) 2nd biggest drop in 4 yrs Ketu afflicts Moon 9.17.01 Ketu at 8:40 Sag. (Lagna MEP) Market lost lost 7.1% 4.14.00 Ketu at 6 deg Cap. (2nd house MEP) Market declined 5.7% 8.31.98 Sun mahadasa. Ketu at 7:35 Aq. (3rd house MEP)Market declined 6.4% 10.27.97 Sun Mahadasa. Rahu conjoins Moon in Leo Market declines 7.2% 10.18.87 Venus mahadasa. Ketu at 8:37 Vir. (10th house MEP) Market declined 22.6% The latter info and dates with the exception of that for 3.13.07 was published in the Dallas Morning News on Feb. 28, 2007. Some more recent dates and stats: 6.22.07 Moon at 8 deg. Vir. (10th house MEP) $DJI drops 167 pts. 7.26.07 Moon enters Sag. (1st house) $DJI drops 325 pts. 7.27.07 Moon transits Sag. $DJI drops about 200 pts. 8.14.07 Ketu conjoins Moon $DJI drops 207 pts. So it seems that my data shows that the birth chart of the USA may be centered on the lagna of 8 deg. Sag. The key here is 8 deg. This may give a clue to the mystery of the USA chart. What do you think? I welcome your comments. Best regards, John Dorio ______________________________\ ____ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. http://sims./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Hello Mr. Dorio, Ketu conjoins Moon every month. Have you found this fall in DJ in each instance - 12 times every year? The following is the text of my msg on SAMVA list on 10th August, 2007 regarding financial turmoil: " Besides the transit influences brought out by you (Mr. Thor) the close conjunction of Venus and MMP Saturn is another factor which is likely to cause worries in the next few days. " Not only the DJ fell the banks had to release ECB funds more than which were released on 14th Sep 2001 - as per reports. The picture is not that simple which can be explained by Ketu - Moon conjunction. Best wishes. - " John Dorio " <johndorio Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:45 AM Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon Thanks for the info. Here is my data and analysis with regard to the July 4, 1776 chart for Philadelphia around 6pm: Please refer to Linda Johnsen's book, " A Thousand Suns. " for more info on the mahadasas of the USA chart. She states that Moon dasa began on Mid-Oct 1998 and that the Mars dasa shall begin around Mid-October 2008. In the chart, the asc. is 8 deg. Sag. Today- 8.14.07 Ketu conjoins Moon $DJI (Dow Jones Index) drops 207 pts. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ 2.27.07 Rahu afflicts Moon 3.3% drop in Market 3.13.07 Market drops 243 pts. (1.9%) 2nd biggest drop in 4 yrs Ketu afflicts Moon 9.17.01 Ketu at 8:40 Sag. (Lagna MEP) Market lost lost 7.1% 4.14.00 Ketu at 6 deg Cap. (2nd house MEP) Market declined 5.7% 8.31.98 Sun mahadasa. Ketu at 7:35 Aq. (3rd house MEP)Market declined 6.4% 10.27.97 Sun Mahadasa. Rahu conjoins Moon in Leo Market declines 7.2% 10.18.87 Venus mahadasa. Ketu at 8:37 Vir. (10th house MEP) Market declined 22.6% The latter info and dates with the exception of that for 3.13.07 was published in the Dallas Morning News on Feb. 28, 2007. Some more recent dates and stats: 6.22.07 Moon at 8 deg. Vir. (10th house MEP) $DJI drops 167 pts. 7.26.07 Moon enters Sag. (1st house) $DJI drops 325 pts. 7.27.07 Moon transits Sag. $DJI drops about 200 pts. 8.14.07 Ketu conjoins Moon $DJI drops 207 pts. So it seems that my data shows that the birth chart of the USA may be centered on the lagna of 8 deg. Sag. The key here is 8 deg. This may give a clue to the mystery of the USA chart. What do you think? I welcome your comments. Best regards, John Dorio ______________________________\ ____ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. http://sims./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Hello dear Mr. Dorio, All those who use any technique for astrological analysis other than SA are just as if they are playing a game of chance. Not only dependability is poor in terms of preciseness following such advice is damaging in most of the cases. You may visit and find the truth on other on vedic astrology/jyotish. Rarely you would find any author categorically replying the questions for the learners. Some people just want to sell books and journals and do not want to give predictions/astrological readings. It is simply because they do not have confidence in themselves and the techniques they follow. If you are happy with the book referred by you then I wonder what brought you to SA. Best wishes. - " John Dorio " <johndorio Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:45 AM Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon Thanks for the info. Here is my data and analysis with regard to the July 4, 1776 chart for Philadelphia around 6pm: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Dear Friends.. In reviewing the SAMVA chart for the USA this morning, it struck me that jupiter, ruling conflict, is afflicting moon, ruling the chart. This accounts for the country having its own Civil War, constant political disputes, and wars with other countries. Rahu, in the tenth house, gives tremendous business and professional ambition. Sun and Mercury, in the seventh house, show status and independence connected with partnerships and foreign lands. Mars, in the fifth house, shows strong professional education and investments in property and military technology. Venus, in the sixth house, shows conflicts over property and disturbed domestic peace (riots, unrest, religous and political divisions). The fit becomes more apparent every time I study the chart. Even the transits line up perfectly with major events, such as Sept. 11th, Pearl Harbor, and the Stock Market Crash of 1929. In every one of the charts, the functional malefic planets are on the Most Effective Points and/or closely afflicting the planets or houses signifying these events. Congratulations to all those who worked on the chart, including Thor, John TWB, Jorge and our dear professor.... Best wishes, David Hawthorne - siha Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:05 AM Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon Hello dear Mr. Dorio, USA SAMVA CHART DETAILS 2nd February, 1781, 1705 Hrs. time zone 5.06LMT, Annapolis, MD, USA. Asdt 20 deg 59 minutes. Transit influences will show the calamities occurred since Sept. 11, 2001. Best wishes. - " John Dorio " <johndorio Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:15 PM Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon Thankyou for the clarification, professor. Can you forward me the chart data for the USA mundane chart? How does this chart account for the calamities that have occurred since Sept. 11, 2001? I want to thank you again for your careful guidance and assistance. Best regards, John Dorio --- siha wrote: > > Hello John, > > Take any chart around the world impact of Rahu and > Ketu on the Moon will > show some impact. This is not at all a dependable > criteria. The USA Samva > chart has Cancer rising and a dependable historical > background and the Moon > becomes an important factor being lord of the Asdt. > So, the impact on the > Moon is also pertinent here. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > - > " John Dorio " <johndorio > " Duke Amboy " <dukeamboy > Cc: > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:18 AM > Re: US Stock Markets and the > Moon > > > Transiting Moon and Transiting Rahu and Ketu. I got > the chart from Linda Johnson's book and it lists the > current dasa as that of the Moon and is the 8th > lord. > > I am away from my records but I will post the days > of > the drops in the Dow,the dates, and the Moon-Node > relationships. In a Moon dasa, the transits of the > Moon are completely relevant to the SA method. > > John > --- Duke Amboy <dukeamboy wrote: > > > I would definitely be interested in see your > > research. What chart are you > > using and are you using transiting or natal Moon? > > Transiting or natal > > Rahu/Ketu? > > > > Thanks, > > Duke > > > > On 8/13/07, John Dorio <johndorio > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Professor and List Members, > > > > > > I want to share my views on US mundane affairs. > I > > > have been keeping records of the days when the > Dow > > > Jones index drops signicantly and noted the > > position > > > of the moon in the USA chart. I can post these > at > > a > > > later date is anyone is interested. > > > > > > With the chart based on July 4 1776, the current > > dasa > > > is the Moon and is the 8th lord. This explains > 911 > > and > > > the other various calamities that have occurred > > over > > > recent years. > > > > > > The market seems to dip on the days when the > Moon > > is > > > under the influence of Rahu or Ketu. I have > > records to > > > substantiate this finding. Let me know what you > > and > > > the other members think. I welcome your > comments. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > John Dorio > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > > answers from someone who > > > knows. Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Building a website is a piece of cake. Small > Business gives you all > the tools to get online. > http://smallbusiness./webhosting > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Dear friends, For those list members with an interest to study the SAMVA USA chart, I would like to invite you to examine - the many messages on SAMVA list and - the abundant material in the files Files section and SAMVA USA chart sub section on SAMVA for additional analysis of the chart. SAMVASAMVA%20USA%20chart/ Best wishes, Thor , " David Hawthorne " <david wrote: > > Dear Friends.. > > In reviewing the SAMVA chart for the USA this morning, it struck me that jupiter, ruling conflict, is afflicting moon, ruling the chart. > > This accounts for the country having its own Civil War, constant political disputes, and wars with other countries. > > Rahu, in the tenth house, gives tremendous business and professional ambition. > > Sun and Mercury, in the seventh house, show status and independence connected with partnerships and foreign lands. > > Mars, in the fifth house, shows strong professional education and investments in property and military technology. > > Venus, in the sixth house, shows conflicts over property and disturbed domestic peace (riots, unrest, religous and political divisions). > > The fit becomes more apparent every time I study the chart. > > Even the transits line up perfectly with major events, such as Sept. 11th, Pearl Harbor, and the Stock Market Crash of 1929. > > In every one of the charts, the functional malefic planets are on the Most Effective Points and/or closely afflicting the planets or houses signifying these events. > > Congratulations to all those who worked on the chart, including Thor, John TWB, Jorge and our dear professor.... > > Best wishes, > > David Hawthorne > - > siha > > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:05 AM > Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon > > > > Hello dear Mr. Dorio, > > USA SAMVA CHART DETAILS > 2nd February, 1781, 1705 Hrs. time zone 5.06LMT, Annapolis, MD, USA. > Asdt 20 deg 59 minutes. > > Transit influences will show the calamities > occurred since Sept. 11, 2001. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > - > " John Dorio " <johndorio > > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:15 PM > Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon > > > Thankyou for the clarification, professor. Can you > forward me the chart data for the USA mundane chart? > > How does this chart account for the calamities that > have occurred since Sept. 11, 2001? > > I want to thank you again for your careful guidance > and assistance. > > Best regards, > John Dorio > > > --- siha wrote: > > > > > Hello John, > > > > Take any chart around the world impact of Rahu and > > Ketu on the Moon will > > show some impact. This is not at all a dependable > > criteria. The USA Samva > > chart has Cancer rising and a dependable historical > > background and the Moon > > becomes an important factor being lord of the Asdt. > > So, the impact on the > > Moon is also pertinent here. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > " John Dorio " <johndorio > > " Duke Amboy " <dukeamboy > > Cc: > > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:18 AM > > Re: US Stock Markets and the > > Moon > > > > > > Transiting Moon and Transiting Rahu and Ketu. I got > > the chart from Linda Johnson's book and it lists the > > current dasa as that of the Moon and is the 8th > > lord. > > > > I am away from my records but I will post the days > > of > > the drops in the Dow,the dates, and the Moon-Node > > relationships. In a Moon dasa, the transits of the > > Moon are completely relevant to the SA method. > > > > John > > --- Duke Amboy <dukeamboy wrote: > > > > > I would definitely be interested in see your > > > research. What chart are you > > > using and are you using transiting or natal Moon? > > > Transiting or natal > > > Rahu/Ketu? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Duke > > > > > > On 8/13/07, John Dorio <johndorio > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Professor and List Members, > > > > > > > > I want to share my views on US mundane affairs. > > I > > > > have been keeping records of the days when the > > Dow > > > > Jones index drops signicantly and noted the > > > position > > > > of the moon in the USA chart. I can post these > > at > > > a > > > > later date is anyone is interested. > > > > > > > > With the chart based on July 4 1776, the current > > > dasa > > > > is the Moon and is the 8th lord. This explains > > 911 > > > and > > > > the other various calamities that have occurred > > > over > > > > recent years. > > > > > > > > The market seems to dip on the days when the > > Moon > > > is > > > > under the influence of Rahu or Ketu. I have > > > records to > > > > substantiate this finding. Let me know what you > > > and > > > > the other members think. I welcome your > > comments. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > John Dorio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > > > answers from someone who > > > > knows. Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________ ______________ > > Building a website is a piece of cake. Small > > Business gives you all > > the tools to get online. > > http://smallbusiness./webhosting > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Dear David, I have no credit for this chart. Thanks anyway for mentioning my name, however, the rectified chart of US is that of July 2, 1776, at 16:48:46, Philadelphia. Time will show it... Best wishes, Jorge On 8/15/07, David Hawthorne <david wrote: > > Dear Friends.. > > In reviewing the SAMVA chart for the USA this morning, it struck me that > jupiter, ruling conflict, is afflicting moon, ruling the chart. > > This accounts for the country having its own Civil War, constant political > disputes, and wars with other countries. > > Rahu, in the tenth house, gives tremendous business and professional > ambition. > > Sun and Mercury, in the seventh house, show status and independence > connected with partnerships and foreign lands. > > Mars, in the fifth house, shows strong professional education and > investments in property and military technology. > > Venus, in the sixth house, shows conflicts over property and disturbed > domestic peace (riots, unrest, religous and political divisions). > > The fit becomes more apparent every time I study the chart. > > Even the transits line up perfectly with major events, such as Sept. 11th, > Pearl Harbor, and the Stock Market Crash of 1929. > > In every one of the charts, the functional malefic planets are on the Most > Effective Points and/or closely afflicting the planets or houses signifying > these events. > > Congratulations to all those who worked on the chart, including Thor, John > TWB, Jorge and our dear professor.... > > Best wishes, > > David Hawthorne > - > siha > > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:05 AM > Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon > > > > Hello dear Mr. Dorio, > > USA SAMVA CHART DETAILS > 2nd February, 1781, 1705 Hrs. time zone 5.06LMT, Annapolis, MD, USA. > Asdt 20 deg 59 minutes. > > Transit influences will show the calamities > occurred since Sept. 11, 2001. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > - > " John Dorio " <johndorio > > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:15 PM > Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon > > > Thankyou for the clarification, professor. Can you > forward me the chart data for the USA mundane chart? > > How does this chart account for the calamities that > have occurred since Sept. 11, 2001? > > I want to thank you again for your careful guidance > and assistance. > > Best regards, > John Dorio > > > --- siha wrote: > > > > > Hello John, > > > > Take any chart around the world impact of Rahu and > > Ketu on the Moon will > > show some impact. This is not at all a dependable > > criteria. The USA Samva > > chart has Cancer rising and a dependable historical > > background and the Moon > > becomes an important factor being lord of the Asdt. > > So, the impact on the > > Moon is also pertinent here. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > " John Dorio " <johndorio > > " Duke Amboy " <dukeamboy > > Cc: > > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:18 AM > > Re: US Stock Markets and the > > Moon > > > > > > Transiting Moon and Transiting Rahu and Ketu. I got > > the chart from Linda Johnson's book and it lists the > > current dasa as that of the Moon and is the 8th > > lord. > > > > I am away from my records but I will post the days > > of > > the drops in the Dow,the dates, and the Moon-Node > > relationships. In a Moon dasa, the transits of the > > Moon are completely relevant to the SA method. > > > > John > > --- Duke Amboy <dukeamboy wrote: > > > > > I would definitely be interested in see your > > > research. What chart are you > > > using and are you using transiting or natal Moon? > > > Transiting or natal > > > Rahu/Ketu? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Duke > > > > > > On 8/13/07, John Dorio <johndorio > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Professor and List Members, > > > > > > > > I want to share my views on US mundane affairs. > > I > > > > have been keeping records of the days when the > > Dow > > > > Jones index drops signicantly and noted the > > > position > > > > of the moon in the USA chart. I can post these > > at > > > a > > > > later date is anyone is interested. > > > > > > > > With the chart based on July 4 1776, the current > > > dasa > > > > is the Moon and is the 8th lord. This explains > > 911 > > > and > > > > the other various calamities that have occurred > > > over > > > > recent years. > > > > > > > > The market seems to dip on the days when the > > Moon > > > is > > > > under the influence of Rahu or Ketu. I have > > > records to > > > > substantiate this finding. Let me know what you > > > and > > > > the other members think. I welcome your > > comments. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > John Dorio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________ > > > > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > > > answers from someone who > > > > knows. Answers - Check it out. > > > > > > > > > > http://answers./dir/?link=list & sid=396545433 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > > Building a website is a piece of cake. Small > > Business gives you all > > the tools to get online. > > http://smallbusiness./webhosting > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2007 Report Share Posted August 15, 2007 Hello All, Jorge's rectified chart and the current transits.. Along the lines of the mention David made about business in the US. If you think about how hard it is for people to get loans and be in business, and with the S & L scandals and health insurance problems, 10L Sun in 8 with 2L of status and wealth in the house of other people's money makes sense for the July 2 chart. Not to mention the 12L conjunction with it too, bringing foreign involvement. And Rahu closely afflicts the chart lord, so that takes care of the Rahu effect in the US. It's all about show, hence the entertainment industry kings and the war on drugs, the war on terror...and the way the US pretends to help other countries but really has a fiduciary interest. What's interesting is that Jupiter is on the 1 MEP of the transit chart, transiting, and with Jupiter natally in the house of scandals, aspecting the 2H, (using the 1 degree SA rule for bad placement weakness) explains the position of the US right now. Since this chart was derived with other methods as well as the SA method, it's not being discussed here. Many on this list are quite talented in astrology, each in their own way. Aloha, Sally Without diversity we wouldn't grow. Yes Jorge, time will tell. On 8/15/07, Jorge Angelino <jorge.angelino wrote: > > Dear David, > > I have no credit for this chart. Thanks anyway for mentioning my name, > however, the rectified chart of US is that of July 2, 1776, at 16:48:46, > Philadelphia. Time will show it... > > Best wishes, > > Jorge > > > > On 8/15/07, David Hawthorne <david wrote: > > > > Dear Friends.. > > > > In reviewing the SAMVA chart for the USA this morning, it struck me that > > jupiter, ruling conflict, is afflicting moon, ruling the chart. > > > > This accounts for the country having its own Civil War, constant > political > > disputes, and wars with other countries. > > > > Rahu, in the tenth house, gives tremendous business and professional > > ambition. > > > > Sun and Mercury, in the seventh house, show status and independence > > connected with partnerships and foreign lands. > > > > Mars, in the fifth house, shows strong professional education and > > investments in property and military technology. > > > > Venus, in the sixth house, shows conflicts over property and disturbed > > domestic peace (riots, unrest, religous and political divisions). > > > > The fit becomes more apparent every time I study the chart. > > > > Even the transits line up perfectly with major events, such as Sept. > 11th, > > Pearl Harbor, and the Stock Market Crash of 1929. > > > > In every one of the charts, the functional malefic planets are on the > Most > > Effective Points and/or closely afflicting the planets or houses > signifying > > these events. > > > > Congratulations to all those who worked on the chart, including Thor, > John > > TWB, Jorge and our dear professor.... > > > > Best wishes, > > > > David Hawthorne > > - > > siha > > > > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 11:05 AM > > Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon > > > > > > > > Hello dear Mr. Dorio, > > > > USA SAMVA CHART DETAILS > > 2nd February, 1781, 1705 Hrs. time zone 5.06LMT, Annapolis, MD, > USA. > > Asdt 20 deg 59 minutes. > > > > Transit influences will show the calamities > > occurred since Sept. 11, 2001. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > " John Dorio " <johndorio > > > > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:15 PM > > Re: US Stock Markets and the Moon > > > > > > Thankyou for the clarification, professor. Can you > > forward me the chart data for the USA mundane chart? > > > > How does this chart account for the calamities that > > have occurred since Sept. 11, 2001? > > > > I want to thank you again for your careful guidance > > and assistance. > > > > Best regards, > > John Dorio > > > > > > --- siha wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello John, > > > > > > Take any chart around the world impact of Rahu and > > > Ketu on the Moon will > > > show some impact. This is not at all a dependable > > > criteria. The USA Samva > > > chart has Cancer rising and a dependable historical > > > background and the Moon > > > becomes an important factor being lord of the Asdt. > > > So, the impact on the > > > Moon is also pertinent here. > > > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > " John Dorio " <johndorio > > > " Duke Amboy " <dukeamboy > > > Cc: > > > Tuesday, August 14, 2007 9:18 AM > > > Re: US Stock Markets and the > > > Moon > > > > > > > > > Transiting Moon and Transiting Rahu and Ketu. I got > > > the chart from Linda Johnson's book and it lists the > > > current dasa as that of the Moon and is the 8th > > > lord. > > > > > > I am away from my records but I will post the days > > > of > > > the drops in the Dow,the dates, and the Moon-Node > > > relationships. In a Moon dasa, the transits of the > > > Moon are completely relevant to the SA method. > > > > > > John > > > --- Duke Amboy <dukeamboy wrote: > > > > > > > I would definitely be interested in see your > > > > research. What chart are you > > > > using and are you using transiting or natal Moon? > > > > Transiting or natal > > > > Rahu/Ketu? > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Duke > > > > > > > > On 8/13/07, John Dorio <johndorio > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Professor and List Members, > > > > > > > > > > I want to share my views on US mundane affairs. > > > I > > > > > have been keeping records of the days when the > > > Dow > > > > > Jones index drops signicantly and noted the > > > > position > > > > > of the moon in the USA chart. I can post these > > > at > > > > a > > > > > later date is anyone is interested. > > > > > > > > > > With the chart based on July 4 1776, the current > > > > dasa > > > > > is the Moon and is the 8th lord. This explains > > > 911 > > > > and > > > > > the other various calamities that have occurred > > > > over > > > > > recent years. > > > > > > > > > > The market seems to dip on the days when the > > > Moon > > > > is > > > > > under the influence of Rahu or Ketu. I have > > > > records to > > > > > substantiate this finding. Let me know what you > > > > and > > > > > the other members think. I welcome your > > > comments. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > John Dorio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Sally Spencer, Jyotish Kovid A Gentle Journey to Deep Healing- Ascension work, Astrology- Vedic (Hindu) and Western www.Devi3.byregion.net Waves of Love Entering the Planet It's inevitable. It's contagious~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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