South California fire

[Guest guest]

Hello Ms Khajakian,

 

Yes, it is the impact of Saturn-Ketu conjunction.

 

Best wishes.

 

 

 

 

 

-

" helenkhaj " <helenkhaj

<SAMVA >

Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:28 AM

South California fire

 

 

Hello Mr. Choudhry and members,

 

 

I kept Thor's email about Important aspects in October which he send

on October 4th.

 

Below is one of that aspect date:

 

12 Oct.-6 Nov. Saturn-Ketu (exact at 11° Leo on 23 Oct)

 

 

I think South California fire is related to Saturn- Ketu aspect. The

Santa Ana hot wind cause fire in south California from last Friday,

Saturday, Sunday, Monday, today and maybe tomorrow or Wednesday.

Disaster situation. We had 12 large fire among 7 counties such as hell

yesterday. Today is worse than yesterday. The Santa Ana hot wind will

continue until tomorrow afternoon. The weather temp. is like summer

around 100F.

Saturn-Ketu exact at 11 Leo on 23 Oct is match with South California.

 

I send complete news for all of you.

 

Thank you. Helen from South California

 

SAN DIEGO - Wildfires blown by fierce desert winds Monday reduced

hundreds of Southern California homes to ashes, forced hundreds of

thousands of people to flee and laid a hellish, spidery pattern of

luminous orange over the drought-stricken region.

 

 

At least one person was killed and dozens were injured. At least 655

homes burned - about 130 in one mountain area alone - and 168

businesses and other structures were destroyed. Thousands of other

buildings were threatened by more than a dozen blazes covering at

least 240,000 acres, the equivalent of 374 square miles.

 

" The sky was just red. Everywhere I looked was red, glowing. Law

enforcement came barreling in with police cars with loudspeakers

telling everyone to get out now, " said Ronnie Leigh, 55, who fled her

mobile home in northern Los Angeles County as smoke darkened the sky

over the nearby ridge line.

 

Soon after nightfall, fire officials announced that 500 homes and 100

commercial properties had been destroyed by a fire in northern San

Diego County that exploded to 145,000 acres, said Roxanne Provaznik, a

spokeswoman for the California Department of Forestry. The fire

injured seven firefighters and one civilian, and was spreading

unchecked.

 

A pair of wildfires consumed 133 homes in the Lake Arrowhead mountain

resort area in the San Bernardino National Forest east of Los Angeles,

authorities said. Hundreds of homes were lost in the same community

fours years ago.

 

Firefighters - who lost valuable time trying to persuade stubborn

homeowners to leave - had their work cut out for them as winds gusting

to 70 mph scattered embers onto dry brush, spawning spot fires.

California officials pleaded for help from fire departments in other

states.

 

" A lot of people are going to lose their homes today, " San Diego Fire

Capt. Lisa Blake predicted earlier.

 

At least 14 fires were burning in Southern California, said Patti

Roberts, a spokeswoman for the Governor's Office of Emergency Services.

 

From San Diego to Malibu, more than 150 miles up the coast, at least

265,000 people were warned to leave their homes. More than 250,000

were told to flee in San Diego County alone.

 

" It's probably closer to 300,000, " said County Supervisor Ron Roberts.

 

Hundreds of patients were moved by school bus and ambulance from a

hospital and nursing homes, some in hospital gowns and wheelchairs.

Some carried their medical records in clear plastic bags.

 

A 1,049-inmate jail in Orange County was evacuated because of heavy

smoke. The prisoners were bused to other lockups.

 

In San Diego County, where at least four fires burned, more than

200,000 reverse 911 calls - calls from county officials to residents -

alerted residents to evacuations, said County Supervisor Roberts.

 

About 10,000 of them ended up at Qualcomm Stadium, home to the NFL's

Chargers, where thousands of people huddled in eerie silence during

the day Monday, staring at muted TV news reports of the wildfires. A

lone concession stand served coffee and doughnuts. Many gathered in

the parking lot with their pets, which were banned from the stadium.

 

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger arrived later Monday to a more festive

evening atmosphere, with live music and mountains of catered food. The

crowd hooted and hollered as he passed through, and Schwarzenegger

later declared that the people of this makeshift city " are very happy. "

 

The sprawling Del Mar Fairgrounds on the coast was also turned into an

evacuation center, along with high schools and senior centers. Marine

officials at Camp Pendleton opened their base to residents.

 

At least one of the fires, in Orange County, was believed to have been

set. And a blaze threatening the homes of the rich and famous in

Malibu might have been caused by downed power lines, authorities said.

 

Mel Gibson, Kelsey Grammer and Victoria Principal were among the

celebrities forced to flee over the weekend, their publicists said.

 

Another blaze was started by a car fire. Flying embers started new

fires at every turn. One of the San Diego fires was burning so fast

that authorities did not have an accurate count of how many homes had

been destroyed.

 

" It was nuclear winter. It was like Armageddon. It looked like the end

of the world, " Mitch Mendler, a San Diego firefighter, said as he and

his crew stopped at a shopping center parking lot to refill their

water truck from a hydrant near a restaurant. Asked how many homes had

burned, he said, " I lost count. "

 

Tom Sollie, 49, ignored evacuation orders in Rancho Bernardo to help

his neighbors spray roofs on his street with water. His home was

untouched, but he watched a neighbor's house reduced to nothing but

the remnants of a brick chimney. " The house went up like a Roman

candle, " Sollie said.

 

He added: " If we weren't here, the whole neighborhood would go up.

There just aren't enough fire trucks around. "

 

Parts of seven California counties were ablaze. By nightfall, embers

had ignited spot fires in ultrawealthy Rancho Santa Fe, a suburb north

of San Diego. The fires burned in lemon orchards, their smoke choking

the air around gated mansions.

 

Firefighters complained that their efforts to stop the flames were

delayed when they were confronted by people who refused to leave their

homes.

 

" They didn't evacuate at all, or delayed until it was too late, " said

Bill Metcalf, a fire boss. " And those folks who are making those

decisions are actually stripping fire resources. "

 

As flames, thick smoke and choking ash filled the air around San Diego

County's Lake Hodges, Stan Smith ignored orders to evacuate and stayed

behind to help rescue the horses of his neighbor Ken Morris.

 

" It's hard to leave all your belongings and take off, and the bad

thing is you can't get back in once you leave, " Smith said.

 

" I heard the cops come by, and I just ducked, " Morris said.

 

Besides, said Smith, " Lots of time the fire doesn't ever come. It's

come really close before. I've seen it so bad you couldn't even hear

yourself talk over the flames and ash blowing everywhere. "

 

Black smoke blanketed much of northern San Diego and nearby suburbs as

flames hopscotched around homes in Rancho Bernardo, a community with

many elderly people, destroying one of every 10 homes on one busy

street.

 

Highways, canals and other features normally act as firebreaks. But

the towering flames and flying embers rendered them useless this time.

 

Dozens of motorists gathered on an Interstate 15 overpass in San Diego

to watch flames race up a hillside and engulf at least a half-dozen

homes. Witnesses said they watched flames jump west across the 10-lane

freeway.

 

" The flames were like 100 feet high and it moved up the hill in

seconds. It was at the bottom, it was in the middle, and then it was

at the top, " said Steve Jarrett, who helped a friend evacuate his home

in nearby Escondido.

 

Fire near the San Diego Wild Animal Park led authorities to move

condors, a cheetah, snakes and other animals to the fire-resistant

veterinary hospital on the grounds of the park. The large animals,

such as elephants, rhinos and antelope, were left in irrigated

enclosures.

 

The world-famous San Diego Zoo was not immediately threatened.

 

Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency in the seven affected

counties, opening the way for government aid. He also made 1,500

California National Guardsmen available, and San Diego Mayor Jerry

Sanders said the troops' main focus would be to prevent looting and

help with evacuations.

 

" Its a tragic time for California, " the governor said in Malibu, where

a church, homes and a mansion resembling a medieval castle were

destroyed over the weekend.

 

White House deputy press secretary Scott Stanzel said in an e-mail

that President Bush called Schwarzenegger to make sure the state is

getting the help it needs.

 

One person died in one of the fires near San Diego. More than a dozen

people were hospitalized with burns and smoke inhalation, including

four firefighters, three of whom were listed in critical condition,

officials said. Some of the injured were hikers, while others may be

illegal immigrants.

 

Among the evacuees were members of a National Guard unit that had to

flee its barracks, officials said.

 

Flames forced the evacuation of the San Diego community of Ramona,

which has a population of about 36,000.

 

Christine Baird, 42, was ordered to evacuate her apartment in the

Rancho Bernardo area at 5:30 a.m. She moved to California from Canada

earlier this year.

 

" Instead of snow we had ash all over the car, " she said. " This is all

new for me. We've got no family in the area, so there's really nowhere

else to go. "

 

___

 

Contributing to this report were Associated Press writers Chelsea J.

Carter and Jeremiah Marquez in Los Angeles, Jacob Adelman in Santa

Clarita, and Elliot Spagat and Scott Lindlaw in San Diego; and

National Writer Martha Mendoza in Lake Arrowhead.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Mr. Chaudhry:I live in San Diego, had a very tough time on Oct 22. Exact conjunction of Saturn-Ketu in my ascendant gave me very restless day. My family and house survived. There was not too much of a damage because this conjunction is 9 degrees away from 1H MEP. Shortly Ketu is becoming stationary exactly on 1H MEP. You may comment on what kind of problems should I expect?Thank youRaj Chadha siha wrote: Hello Ms Khajakian, Yes, it is the impact of Saturn-Ketu conjunction.

Best wishes. - "helenkhaj" <helenkhaj > <SAMVA > Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:28 AM South California fire Hello Mr. Choudhry and members, I kept Thor's email about Important aspects in October which he send on October 4th. Below is one of that aspect date: 12 Oct.-6 Nov. Saturn-Ketu (exact at 11° Leo on 23 Oct) I think South California fire is related to Saturn- Ketu aspect. The Santa Ana hot wind cause fire in south California from last Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, today and maybe tomorrow or Wednesday. Disaster situation. We had 12 large fire among 7 counties such as hell yesterday. Today is worse than yesterday. The Santa Ana hot wind will continue

until tomorrow afternoon. The weather temp. is like summer around 100F. Saturn-Ketu exact at 11 Leo on 23 Oct is match with South California. I send complete news for all of you. Thank you. Helen from South California SAN DIEGO - Wildfires blown by fierce desert winds Monday reduced hundreds of Southern California homes to ashes, forced hundreds of thousands of people to flee and laid a hellish, spidery pattern of luminous orange over the drought-stricken region. At least one person was killed and dozens were injured. At least 655 homes burned - about 130 in one mountain area alone - and 168 businesses and other structures were destroyed. Thousands of other buildings were threatened by more than a dozen blazes covering at least 240,000 acres, the equivalent of 374 square miles. "The sky was just red. Everywhere I looked was red, glowing. Law enforcement came barreling in with police cars

with loudspeakers telling everyone to get out now," said Ronnie Leigh, 55, who fled her mobile home in northern Los Angeles County as smoke darkened the sky over the nearby ridge line. Soon after nightfall, fire officials announced that 500 homes and 100 commercial properties had been destroyed by a fire in northern San Diego County that exploded to 145,000 acres, said Roxanne Provaznik, a spokeswoman for the California Department of Forestry. The fire injured seven firefighters and one civilian, and was spreading unchecked. A pair of wildfires consumed 133 homes in the Lake Arrowhead mountain resort area in the San Bernardino National Forest east of Los Angeles, authorities said. Hundreds of homes were lost in the same community fours years ago. Firefighters - who lost valuable time trying to persuade stubborn homeowners to leave - had their work cut out for them as winds gusting to 70 mph

scattered embers onto dry brush, spawning spot fires. California officials pleaded for help from fire departments in other states. "A lot of people are going to lose their homes today," San Diego Fire Capt. Lisa Blake predicted earlier. At least 14 fires were burning in Southern California, said Patti Roberts, a spokeswoman for the Governor's Office of Emergency Services. From San Diego to Malibu, more than 150 miles up the coast, at least 265,000 people were warned to leave their homes. More than 250,000 were told to flee in San Diego County alone. "It's probably closer to 300,000," said County Supervisor Ron Roberts. Hundreds of patients were moved by school bus and ambulance from a hospital and nursing homes, some in hospital gowns and wheelchairs. Some carried their medical records in clear plastic bags. A 1,049-inmate jail in Orange County was evacuated because of heavy smoke.

The prisoners were bused to other lockups. In San Diego County, where at least four fires burned, more than 200,000 reverse 911 calls - calls from county officials to residents - alerted residents to evacuations, said County Supervisor Roberts. About 10,000 of them ended up at Qualcomm Stadium, home to the NFL's Chargers, where thousands of people huddled in eerie silence during the day Monday, staring at muted TV news reports of the wildfires. A lone concession stand served coffee and doughnuts. Many gathered in the parking lot with their pets, which were banned from the stadium. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger arrived later Monday to a more festive evening atmosphere, with live music and mountains of catered food. The crowd hooted and hollered as he passed through, and Schwarzenegger later declared that the people of this makeshift city "are very happy." The sprawling Del Mar Fairgrounds on the coast was

also turned into an evacuation center, along with high schools and senior centers. Marine officials at Camp Pendleton opened their base to residents. At least one of the fires, in Orange County, was believed to have been set. And a blaze threatening the homes of the rich and famous in Malibu might have been caused by downed power lines, authorities said. Mel Gibson, Kelsey Grammer and Victoria Principal were among the celebrities forced to flee over the weekend, their publicists said. Another blaze was started by a car fire. Flying embers started new fires at every turn. One of the San Diego fires was burning so fast that authorities did not have an accurate count of how many homes had been destroyed. "It was nuclear winter. It was like Armageddon. It looked like the end of the world," Mitch Mendler, a San Diego firefighter, said as he and his crew stopped at a shopping center parking lot to refill

their water truck from a hydrant near a restaurant. Asked how many homes had burned, he said, "I lost count." Tom Sollie, 49, ignored evacuation orders in Rancho Bernardo to help his neighbors spray roofs on his street with water. His home was untouched, but he watched a neighbor's house reduced to nothing but the remnants of a brick chimney. "The house went up like a Roman candle," Sollie said. He added: "If we weren't here, the whole neighborhood would go up. There just aren't enough fire trucks around." Parts of seven California counties were ablaze. By nightfall, embers had ignited spot fires in ultrawealthy Rancho Santa Fe, a suburb north of San Diego. The fires burned in lemon orchards, their smoke choking the air around gated mansions. Firefighters complained that their efforts to stop the flames were delayed when they were confronted by people who refused to leave their homes.

"They didn't evacuate at all, or delayed until it was too late," said Bill Metcalf, a fire boss. "And those folks who are making those decisions are actually stripping fire resources." As flames, thick smoke and choking ash filled the air around San Diego County's Lake Hodges, Stan Smith ignored orders to evacuate and stayed behind to help rescue the horses of his neighbor Ken Morris. "It's hard to leave all your belongings and take off, and the bad thing is you can't get back in once you leave," Smith said. "I heard the cops come by, and I just ducked," Morris said. Besides, said Smith, "Lots of time the fire doesn't ever come. It's come really close before. I've seen it so bad you couldn't even hear yourself talk over the flames and ash blowing everywhere." Black smoke blanketed much of northern San Diego and nearby suburbs as flames hopscotched around homes in Rancho Bernardo, a community

with many elderly people, destroying one of every 10 homes on one busy street. Highways, canals and other features normally act as firebreaks. But the towering flames and flying embers rendered them useless this time. Dozens of motorists gathered on an Interstate 15 overpass in San Diego to watch flames race up a hillside and engulf at least a half-dozen homes. Witnesses said they watched flames jump west across the 10-lane freeway. "The flames were like 100 feet high and it moved up the hill in seconds. It was at the bottom, it was in the middle, and then it was at the top," said Steve Jarrett, who helped a friend evacuate his home in nearby Escondido. Fire near the San Diego Wild Animal Park led authorities to move condors, a cheetah, snakes and other animals to the fire-resistant veterinary hospital on the grounds of the park. The large animals, such as elephants, rhinos and antelope,

were left in irrigated enclosures. The world-famous San Diego Zoo was not immediately threatened. Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency in the seven affected counties, opening the way for government aid. He also made 1,500 California National Guardsmen available, and San Diego Mayor Jerry Sanders said the troops' main focus would be to prevent looting and help with evacuations. "Its a tragic time for California," the governor said in Malibu, where a church, homes and a mansion resembling a medieval castle were destroyed over the weekend. White House deputy press secretary Scott Stanzel said in an e-mail that President Bush called Schwarzenegger to make sure the state is getting the help it needs. One person died in one of the fires near San Diego. More than a dozen people were hospitalized with burns and smoke inhalation, including four firefighters, three of whom were listed in

critical condition, officials said. Some of the injured were hikers, while others may be illegal immigrants. Among the evacuees were members of a National Guard unit that had to flee its barracks, officials said. Flames forced the evacuation of the San Diego community of Ramona, which has a population of about 36,000. Christine Baird, 42, was ordered to evacuate her apartment in the Rancho Bernardo area at 5:30 a.m. She moved to California from Canada earlier this year. "Instead of snow we had ash all over the car," she said. "This is all new for me. We've got no family in the area, so there's really nowhere else to go." ___ Contributing to this report were Associated Press writers Chelsea J. Carter and Jeremiah Marquez in Los Angeles, Jacob Adelman in Santa Clarita, and Elliot Spagat and Scott Lindlaw in San Diego; and National Writer Martha Mendoza in Lake Arrowhead.

 

[Guest guest]

Hello dear Mr. Chadha, Relieved to know that your family and house survived the difficulties. The anxiety can continue upto the end of this month. Stress may tell upon health to some extent.

 

Patience may see you through the stationary transit time of Ketu early next year. Conflicts and haste should be avoided. Best wishes.

 

 

 

 

-

Raj Cgadha

SAMVA

Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:03 PM

Re: South California fire

Mr. Chaudhry:I live in San Diego, had a very tough time on Oct 22. Exact conjunction of Saturn-Ketu in my ascendant gave me very restless day. My family and house survived. There was not too much of a damage because this conjunction is 9 degrees away from 1H MEP. Shortly Ketu is becoming stationary exactly on 1H MEP. You may comment on what kind of problems should I expect?Thank youRaj Chadha siha wrote:

 

 

Hello Ms Khajakian,Yes, it is the impact of Saturn-Ketu conjunction.Best wishes.- "helenkhaj" <helenkhaj ><SAMVA >Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:28 AM South California fireHello Mr. Choudhry and members,I kept Thor's email about Important aspects in October which he sendon October 4th.Below is one of that aspect date:12 Oct.-6 Nov. Saturn-Ketu (exact at 11° Leo on 23 Oct)I think South California fire is related to Saturn- Ketu aspect. TheSanta Ana hot wind cause fire in south California from last Friday,Saturday, Sunday, Monday, today and maybe tomorrow or Wednesday.Disaster situation. We had 12 large fire among 7 counties such as hellyesterday. Today is worse than yesterday. The Santa Ana hot wind willcontinue until tomorrow afternoon. The weather temp. is like summeraround 100F.Saturn-Ketu exact at 11 Leo on 23 Oct is match with South California.I send complete news for all of you.Thank you. Helen from South CaliforniaSAN DIEGO - Wildfires blown by fierce desert winds Monday reducedhundreds of Southern California homes to ashes, forced hundreds ofthousands of people to flee and laid a hellish, spidery pattern ofluminous orange over the drought-stricken region.At least one person was killed and dozens were injured. At least 655homes burned - about 130 in one mountain area alone - and 168businesses and other structures were destroyed. Thousands of otherbuildings were threatened by more than a dozen blazes covering atleast 240,000 acres, the equivalent of 374 square miles."The sky was just red. Everywhere I looked was red, glowing. Lawenforcement came barreling in with police cars with loudspeakerstelling everyone to get out now," said Ronnie Leigh, 55, who fled hermobile home in northern Los Angeles County as smoke darkened the skyover the nearby ridge line.Soon after nightfall, fire officials announced that 500 homes and 100commercial properties had been destroyed by a fire in northern SanDiego County that exploded to 145,000 acres, said Roxanne Provaznik, aspokeswoman for the California Department of Forestry. The fireinjured seven firefighters and one civilian, and was spreadingunchecked.A pair of wildfires consumed 133 homes in the Lake Arrowhead mountainresort area in the San Bernardino National Forest east of Los Angeles,authorities said. Hundreds of homes were lost in the same communityfours years ago.Firefighters - who lost valuable time trying to persuade stubbornhomeowners to leave - had their work cut out for them as winds gustingto 70 mph scattered embers onto dry brush, spawning spot fires.California officials pleaded for help from fire departments in otherstates."A lot of people are going to lose their homes today," San Diego FireCapt. Lisa Blake predicted earlier.At least 14 fires were burning in Southern California, said PattiRoberts, a spokeswoman for the Governor's Office of Emergency Services.From San Diego to Malibu, more than 150 miles up the coast, at least265,000 people were warned to leave their homes. More than 250,000were told to flee in San Diego County alone."It's probably closer to 300,000," said County Supervisor Ron Roberts.Hundreds of patients were moved by school bus and ambulance from ahospital and nursing homes, some in hospital gowns and wheelchairs.Some carried their medical records in clear plastic bags.A 1,049-inmate jail in Orange County was evacuated because of heavysmoke. The prisoners were bused to other lockups.In San Diego County, where at least four fires burned, more than200,000 reverse 911 calls - calls from county officials to residents -alerted residents to evacuations, said County Supervisor Roberts.About 10,000 of them ended up at Qualcomm Stadium, home to the NFL'sChargers, where thousands of people huddled in eerie silence duringthe day Monday, staring at muted TV news reports of the wildfires. Alone concession stand served coffee and doughnuts. Many gathered inthe parking lot with their pets, which were banned from the stadium.Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger arrived later Monday to a more festiveevening atmosphere, with live music and mountains of catered food. Thecrowd hooted and hollered as he passed through, and Schwarzeneggerlater declared that the people of this makeshift city "are very happy."The sprawling Del Mar Fairgrounds on the coast was also turned into anevacuation center, along with high schools and senior centers. Marineofficials at Camp Pendleton opened their base to residents.At least one of the fires, in Orange County, was believed to have beenset. And a blaze threatening the homes of the rich and famous inMalibu might have been caused by downed power lines, authorities said.Mel Gibson, Kelsey Grammer and Victoria Principal were among thecelebrities forced to flee over the weekend, their publicists said.Another blaze was started by a car fire. Flying embers started newfires at every turn. One of the San Diego fires was burning so fastthat authorities did not have an accurate count of how many homes hadbeen destroyed."It was nuclear winter. It was like Armageddon. It looked like the endof the world," Mitch Mendler, a San Diego firefighter, said as he andhis crew stopped at a shopping center parking lot to refill theirwater truck from a hydrant near a restaurant. Asked how many homes hadburned, he said, "I lost count."Tom Sollie, 49, ignored evacuation orders in Rancho Bernardo to helphis neighbors spray roofs on his street with water. His home wasuntouched, but he watched a neighbor's house reduced to nothing butthe remnants of a brick chimney. "The house went up like a Romancandle," Sollie said.He added: "If we weren't here, the whole neighborhood would go up.There just aren't enough fire trucks around."Parts of seven California counties were ablaze. By nightfall, embershad ignited spot fires in ultrawealthy Rancho Santa Fe, a suburb northof San Diego. The fires burned in lemon orchards, their smoke chokingthe air around gated mansions.Firefighters complained that their efforts to stop the flames weredelayed when they were confronted by people who refused to leave theirhomes."They didn't evacuate at all, or delayed until it was too late," saidBill Metcalf, a fire boss. "And those folks who are making thosedecisions are actually stripping fire resources."As flames, thick smoke and choking ash filled the air around San DiegoCounty's Lake Hodges, Stan Smith ignored orders to evacuate and stayedbehind to help rescue the horses of his neighbor Ken Morris."It's hard to leave all your belongings and take off, and the badthing is you can't get back in once you leave," Smith said."I heard the cops come by, and I just ducked," Morris said.Besides, said Smith, "Lots of time the fire doesn't ever come. It'scome really close before. I've seen it so bad you couldn't even hearyourself talk over the flames and ash blowing everywhere."Black smoke blanketed much of northern San Diego and nearby suburbs asflames hopscotched around homes in Rancho Bernardo, a community withmany elderly people, destroying one of every 10 homes on one busystreet.Highways, canals and other features normally act as firebreaks. Butthe towering flames and flying embers rendered them useless this time.Dozens of motorists gathered on an Interstate 15 overpass in San Diegoto watch flames race up a hillside and engulf at least a half-dozenhomes. Witnesses said they watched flames jump west across the 10-lanefreeway."The flames were like 100 feet high and it moved up the hill inseconds. It was at the bottom, it was in the middle, and then it wasat the top," said Steve Jarrett, who helped a friend evacuate his homein nearby Escondido.Fire near the San Diego Wild Animal Park led authorities to movecondors, a cheetah, snakes and other animals to the fire-resistantveterinary hospital on the grounds of the park. The large animals,such as elephants, rhinos and antelope, were left in irrigatedenclosures.The world-famous San Diego Zoo was not immediately threatened.Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency in the seven affectedcounties, opening the way for government aid. He also made 1,500California National Guardsmen available, and San Diego Mayor JerrySanders said the troops' main focus would be to prevent looting andhelp with evacuations."Its a tragic time for California," the governor said in Malibu, wherea church, homes and a mansion resembling a medieval castle weredestroyed over the weekend.White House deputy press secretary Scott Stanzel said in an e-mailthat President Bush called Schwarzenegger to make sure the state isgetting the help it needs.One person died in one of the fires near San Diego. More than a dozenpeople were hospitalized with burns and smoke inhalation, includingfour firefighters, three of whom were listed in critical condition,officials said. Some of the injured were hikers, while others may beillegal immigrants.Among the evacuees were members of a National Guard unit that had toflee its barracks, officials said.Flames forced the evacuation of the San Diego community of Ramona,which has a population of about 36,000.Christine Baird, 42, was ordered to evacuate her apartment in theRancho Bernardo area at 5:30 a.m. She moved to California from Canadaearlier this year."Instead of snow we had ash all over the car," she said. "This is allnew for me. We've got no family in the area, so there's really nowhereelse to go."___Contributing to this report were Associated Press writers Chelsea J.Carter and Jeremiah Marquez in Los Angeles, Jacob Adelman in SantaClarita, and Elliot Spagat and Scott Lindlaw in San Diego; andNational Writer Martha Mendoza in Lake Arrowhead.

[Guest guest]

Hello dear list members,

 

Hope and wish that all our list members living in the South California area are

safe. The anxiety and stress continues for a couple of weeks. The situation may

become normal in about a month's time.

 

Best wishes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Prof Chaudhry:Thank you very much for your kind words. I would definitely be patient through the transit of Ketu.One of my friends lost his $2.5 million house on Oct 22 morning, and barely escaped 15 minutes before the house was engulfed by flames. Analysis of his chart (born Oct 9, 1948, 0:30AM, Cuttak, India) is a testament to System' Approach. I have taken him into my home so that he can be emotionally stable.Thanks againRaj Chadhasiha wrote: Hello dear Mr. Chadha, Relieved to know that your family and house survived the difficulties. The anxiety can continue upto the end of this month. Stress may tell upon health to some extent. Patience may see you through the stationary transit time of Ketu early next year. Conflicts and haste should be avoided. Best wishes. - Raj Cgadha SAMVA Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:03 PM Re: South California fire Mr. Chaudhry:I live in San Diego, had a very tough time on Oct 22. Exact conjunction of Saturn-Ketu in my ascendant gave me very restless day. My family and house survived. There was not too much of a damage because this conjunction is 9 degrees away from 1H MEP. Shortly Ketu is becoming stationary exactly on 1H MEP. You may comment on what kind of problems should I expect?Thank youRaj Chadha siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com wrote: Hello Ms Khajakian,Yes, it is the impact of Saturn-Ketu conjunction.Best wishes.- "helenkhaj" <helenkhaj ><SAMVA >Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:28 AM South California fireHello Mr. Choudhry and members,I kept Thor's email about Important aspects in October which he sendon October 4th.Below is one of that aspect date:12 Oct.-6 Nov. Saturn-Ketu (exact at 11° Leo on 23 Oct)I think South California fire is related to Saturn- Ketu aspect. TheSanta Ana hot wind cause fire in south California from last Friday,Saturday, Sunday, Monday, today and maybe tomorrow or Wednesday.Disaster situation. We had 12 large fire among 7 counties such as hellyesterday. Today is worse than yesterday. The Santa Ana hot wind willcontinue until tomorrow afternoon. The weather temp. is like summeraround

100F.Saturn-Ketu exact at 11 Leo on 23 Oct is match with South California.I send complete news for all of you.Thank you. Helen from South CaliforniaSAN DIEGO - Wildfires blown by fierce desert winds Monday reducedhundreds of Southern California homes to ashes, forced hundreds ofthousands of people to flee and laid a hellish, spidery pattern ofluminous orange over the drought-stricken region.At least one person was killed and dozens were injured. At least 655homes burned - about 130 in one mountain area alone - and 168businesses and other structures were destroyed. Thousands of otherbuildings were threatened by more than a dozen blazes covering atleast 240,000 acres, the equivalent of 374 square miles."The sky was just red. Everywhere I looked was red, glowing. Lawenforcement came barreling in with police cars with loudspeakerstelling everyone to get out now," said Ronnie Leigh, 55, who fled hermobile home in northern Los Angeles County as smoke darkened the skyover the nearby ridge line.Soon after nightfall, fire officials announced that 500 homes and 100commercial properties had been destroyed by a fire in northern SanDiego County that exploded to 145,000 acres, said Roxanne Provaznik, aspokeswoman for the California Department of Forestry. The fireinjured seven firefighters and one civilian, and was spreadingunchecked.A pair of wildfires consumed 133 homes in the Lake Arrowhead mountainresort area in the San Bernardino National Forest east of Los Angeles,authorities said. Hundreds of homes were lost in the same communityfours years ago.Firefighters - who lost valuable time trying to persuade stubbornhomeowners to leave - had their work cut out for

them as winds gustingto 70 mph scattered embers onto dry brush, spawning spot fires.California officials pleaded for help from fire departments in otherstates."A lot of people are going to lose their homes today," San Diego FireCapt. Lisa Blake predicted earlier.At least 14 fires were burning in Southern California, said PattiRoberts, a spokeswoman for the Governor's Office of Emergency Services.From San Diego to Malibu, more than 150 miles up the coast, at least265,000 people were warned to leave their homes. More than 250,000were told to flee in San Diego County alone."It's probably closer to 300,000," said County Supervisor Ron Roberts.Hundreds of patients were moved by school bus and ambulance from ahospital and nursing homes, some in hospital gowns and wheelchairs.Some carried their medical records in clear plastic bags.A

1,049-inmate jail in Orange County was evacuated because of heavysmoke. The prisoners were bused to other lockups.In San Diego County, where at least four fires burned, more than200,000 reverse 911 calls - calls from county officials to residents -alerted residents to evacuations, said County Supervisor Roberts.About 10,000 of them ended up at Qualcomm Stadium, home to the NFL'sChargers, where thousands of people huddled in eerie silence duringthe day Monday, staring at muted TV news reports of the wildfires. Alone concession stand served coffee and doughnuts. Many gathered inthe parking lot with their pets, which were banned from the stadium.Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger arrived later Monday to a more festiveevening atmosphere, with live music and mountains of catered food. Thecrowd hooted and hollered as he passed through, and Schwarzeneggerlater

declared that the people of this makeshift city "are very happy."The sprawling Del Mar Fairgrounds on the coast was also turned into anevacuation center, along with high schools and senior centers. Marineofficials at Camp Pendleton opened their base to residents.At least one of the fires, in Orange County, was believed to have beenset. And a blaze threatening the homes of the rich and famous inMalibu might have been caused by downed power lines, authorities said.Mel Gibson, Kelsey Grammer and Victoria Principal were among thecelebrities forced to flee over the weekend, their publicists said.Another blaze was started by a car fire. Flying embers started newfires at every turn. One of the San Diego fires was burning so fastthat authorities did not have an accurate count of how many homes hadbeen destroyed."It was nuclear winter. It was like Armageddon. It looked like the endof the world," Mitch Mendler, a San Diego firefighter, said as he andhis crew stopped at a shopping center parking lot to refill theirwater truck from a hydrant near a restaurant. Asked how many homes hadburned, he said, "I lost count."Tom Sollie, 49, ignored evacuation orders in Rancho Bernardo to helphis neighbors spray roofs on his street with water. His home wasuntouched, but he watched a neighbor's house reduced to nothing butthe remnants of a brick chimney. "The house went up like a Romancandle," Sollie said.He added: "If we weren't here, the whole neighborhood would go up.There just aren't enough fire trucks around."Parts of seven California counties were ablaze. By nightfall, embershad ignited spot fires in ultrawealthy Rancho Santa Fe, a suburb northof San Diego. The fires burned in lemon orchards, their

smoke chokingthe air around gated mansions.Firefighters complained that their efforts to stop the flames weredelayed when they were confronted by people who refused to leave theirhomes."They didn't evacuate at all, or delayed until it was too late," saidBill Metcalf, a fire boss. "And those folks who are making thosedecisions are actually stripping fire resources."As flames, thick smoke and choking ash filled the air around San DiegoCounty's Lake Hodges, Stan Smith ignored orders to evacuate and stayedbehind to help rescue the horses of his neighbor Ken Morris."It's hard to leave all your belongings and take off, and the badthing is you can't get back in once you leave," Smith said."I heard the cops come by, and I just ducked," Morris said.Besides, said Smith, "Lots of time the fire doesn't ever come. It'scome really close

before. I've seen it so bad you couldn't even hearyourself talk over the flames and ash blowing everywhere."Black smoke blanketed much of northern San Diego and nearby suburbs asflames hopscotched around homes in Rancho Bernardo, a community withmany elderly people, destroying one of every 10 homes on one busystreet.Highways, canals and other features normally act as firebreaks. Butthe towering flames and flying embers rendered them useless this time.Dozens of motorists gathered on an Interstate 15 overpass in San Diegoto watch flames race up a hillside and engulf at least a half-dozenhomes. Witnesses said they watched flames jump west across the 10-lanefreeway."The flames were like 100 feet high and it moved up the hill inseconds. It was at the bottom, it was in the middle, and then it wasat the top," said Steve Jarrett, who helped a friend

evacuate his homein nearby Escondido.Fire near the San Diego Wild Animal Park led authorities to movecondors, a cheetah, snakes and other animals to the fire-resistantveterinary hospital on the grounds of the park. The large animals,such as elephants, rhinos and antelope, were left in irrigatedenclosures.The world-famous San Diego Zoo was not immediately threatened.Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency in the seven affectedcounties, opening the way for government aid. He also made 1,500California National Guardsmen available, and San Diego Mayor JerrySanders said the troops' main focus would be to prevent looting andhelp with evacuations."Its a tragic time for California," the governor said in Malibu, wherea church, homes and a mansion resembling a medieval castle weredestroyed over the weekend.White House deputy press

secretary Scott Stanzel said in an e-mailthat President Bush called Schwarzenegger to make sure the state isgetting the help it needs.One person died in one of the fires near San Diego. More than a dozenpeople were hospitalized with burns and smoke inhalation, includingfour firefighters, three of whom were listed in critical condition,officials said. Some of the injured were hikers, while others may beillegal immigrants.Among the evacuees were members of a National Guard unit that had toflee its barracks, officials said.Flames forced the evacuation of the San Diego community of Ramona,which has a population of about 36,000.Christine Baird, 42, was ordered to evacuate her apartment in theRancho Bernardo area at 5:30 a.m. She moved to California from Canadaearlier this year."Instead of snow we had ash all over the car," she said. "This is allnew for me. We've got no family in the area, so there's really nowhereelse to go."___Contributing to this report were Associated Press writers Chelsea J.Carter and Jeremiah Marquez in Los Angeles, Jacob Adelman in SantaClarita, and Elliot Spagat and Scott Lindlaw in San Diego; andNational Writer Martha Mendoza in Lake Arrowhead.

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Hello dear Mr. Chadha, Really distressing for your friend. The planetary influences in his natal chart and transit had been very very difficult. Your support will certainly provide him emotional stability and a chance for rehabilitation. Best wishes.

 

 

 

 

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Friday, October 26, 2007 8:49 PM

Re: South California fire

Prof Chaudhry:Thank you very much for your kind words. I would definitely be patient through the transit of Ketu.One of my friends lost his $2.5 million house on Oct 22 morning, and barely escaped 15 minutes before the house was engulfed by flames. Analysis of his chart (born Oct 9, 1948, 0:30AM, Cuttak, India) is a testament to System' Approach. I have taken him into my home so that he can be emotionally stable.Thanks againRaj Chadhasiha wrote:

 

 

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Chadha, Relieved to know that your family and house survived the difficulties. The anxiety can continue upto the end of this month. Stress may tell upon health to some extent.

 

Patience may see you through the stationary transit time of Ketu early next year. Conflicts and haste should be avoided. Best wishes.

 

 

 

 

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Raj Cgadha

SAMVA

Wednesday, October 24, 2007 8:03 PM

Re: South California fire

Mr. Chaudhry:I live in San Diego, had a very tough time on Oct 22. Exact conjunction of Saturn-Ketu in my ascendant gave me very restless day. My family and house survived. There was not too much of a damage because this conjunction is 9 degrees away from 1H MEP. Shortly Ketu is becoming stationary exactly on 1H MEP. You may comment on what kind of problems should I expect?Thank youRaj Chadha siha (AT) yournetastrologer (DOT) com wrote:

 

Hello Ms Khajakian,Yes, it is the impact of Saturn-Ketu conjunction.Best wishes.- "helenkhaj" <helenkhaj ><SAMVA >Tuesday, October 23, 2007 11:28 AM South California fireHello Mr. Choudhry and members,I kept Thor's email about Important aspects in October which he sendon October 4th.Below is one of that aspect date:12 Oct.-6 Nov. Saturn-Ketu (exact at 11° Leo on 23 Oct)I think South California fire is related to Saturn- Ketu aspect. TheSanta Ana hot wind cause fire in south California from last Friday,Saturday, Sunday, Monday, today and maybe tomorrow or Wednesday.Disaster situation. We had 12 large fire among 7 counties such as hellyesterday. Today is worse than yesterday. The Santa Ana hot wind willcontinue until tomorrow afternoon. The weather temp. is like summeraround 100F.Saturn-Ketu exact at 11 Leo on 23 Oct is match with South California.I send complete news for all of you.Thank you. Helen from South CaliforniaSAN DIEGO - Wildfires blown by fierce desert winds Monday reducedhundreds of Southern California homes to ashes, forced hundreds ofthousands of people to flee and laid a hellish, spidery pattern ofluminous orange over the drought-stricken region.At least one person was killed and dozens were injured. At least 655homes burned - about 130 in one mountain area alone - and 168businesses and other structures were destroyed. Thousands of otherbuildings were threatened by more than a dozen blazes covering atleast 240,000 acres, the equivalent of 374 square miles."The sky was just red. Everywhere I looked was red, glowing. Lawenforcement came barreling in with police cars with loudspeakerstelling everyone to get out now," said Ronnie Leigh, 55, who fled hermobile home in northern Los Angeles County as smoke darkened the skyover the nearby ridge line.Soon after nightfall, fire officials announced that 500 homes and 100commercial properties had been destroyed by a fire in northern SanDiego County that exploded to 145,000 acres, said Roxanne Provaznik, aspokeswoman for the California Department of Forestry. The fireinjured seven firefighters and one civilian, and was spreadingunchecked.A pair of wildfires consumed 133 homes in the Lake Arrowhead mountainresort area in the San Bernardino National Forest east of Los Angeles,authorities said. Hundreds of homes were lost in the same communityfours years ago.Firefighters - who lost valuable time trying to persuade stubbornhomeowners to leave - had their work cut out for them as winds gustingto 70 mph scattered embers onto dry brush, spawning spot fires.California officials pleaded for help from fire departments in otherstates."A lot of people are going to lose their homes today," San Diego FireCapt. Lisa Blake predicted earlier.At least 14 fires were burning in Southern California, said PattiRoberts, a spokeswoman for the Governor's Office of Emergency Services.From San Diego to Malibu, more than 150 miles up the coast, at least265,000 people were warned to leave their homes. More than 250,000were told to flee in San Diego County alone."It's probably closer to 300,000," said County Supervisor Ron Roberts.Hundreds of patients were moved by school bus and ambulance from ahospital and nursing homes, some in hospital gowns and wheelchairs.Some carried their medical records in clear plastic bags.A 1,049-inmate jail in Orange County was evacuated because of heavysmoke. The prisoners were bused to other lockups.In San Diego County, where at least four fires burned, more than200,000 reverse 911 calls - calls from county officials to residents -alerted residents to evacuations, said County Supervisor Roberts.About 10,000 of them ended up at Qualcomm Stadium, home to the NFL'sChargers, where thousands of people huddled in eerie silence duringthe day Monday, staring at muted TV news reports of the wildfires. Alone concession stand served coffee and doughnuts. Many gathered inthe parking lot with their pets, which were banned from the stadium.Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger arrived later Monday to a more festiveevening atmosphere, with live music and mountains of catered food. Thecrowd hooted and hollered as he passed through, and Schwarzeneggerlater declared that the people of this makeshift city "are very happy."The sprawling Del Mar Fairgrounds on the coast was also turned into anevacuation center, along with high schools and senior centers. Marineofficials at Camp Pendleton opened their base to residents.At least one of the fires, in Orange County, was believed to have beenset. And a blaze threatening the homes of the rich and famous inMalibu might have been caused by downed power lines, authorities said.Mel Gibson, Kelsey Grammer and Victoria Principal were among thecelebrities forced to flee over the weekend, their publicists said.Another blaze was started by a car fire. Flying embers started newfires at every turn. One of the San Diego fires was burning so fastthat authorities did not have an accurate count of how many homes hadbeen destroyed."It was nuclear winter. It was like Armageddon. It looked like the endof the world," Mitch Mendler, a San Diego firefighter, said as he andhis crew stopped at a shopping center parking lot to refill theirwater truck from a hydrant near a restaurant. Asked how many homes hadburned, he said, "I lost count."Tom Sollie, 49, ignored evacuation orders in Rancho Bernardo to helphis neighbors spray roofs on his street with water. His home wasuntouched, but he watched a neighbor's house reduced to nothing butthe remnants of a brick chimney. "The house went up like a Romancandle," Sollie said.He added: "If we weren't here, the whole neighborhood would go up.There just aren't enough fire trucks around."Parts of seven California counties were ablaze. By nightfall, embershad ignited spot fires in ultrawealthy Rancho Santa Fe, a suburb northof San Diego. The fires burned in lemon orchards, their smoke chokingthe air around gated mansions.Firefighters complained that their efforts to stop the flames weredelayed when they were confronted by people who refused to leave theirhomes."They didn't evacuate at all, or delayed until it was too late," saidBill Metcalf, a fire boss. "And those folks who are making thosedecisions are actually stripping fire resources."As flames, thick smoke and choking ash filled the air around San DiegoCounty's Lake Hodges, Stan Smith ignored orders to evacuate and stayedbehind to help rescue the horses of his neighbor Ken Morris."It's hard to leave all your belongings and take off, and the badthing is you can't get back in once you leave," Smith said."I heard the cops come by, and I just ducked," Morris said.Besides, said Smith, "Lots of time the fire doesn't ever come. It'scome really close before. I've seen it so bad you couldn't even hearyourself talk over the flames and ash blowing everywhere."Black smoke blanketed much of northern San Diego and nearby suburbs asflames hopscotched around homes in Rancho Bernardo, a community withmany elderly people, destroying one of every 10 homes on one busystreet.Highways, canals and other features normally act as firebreaks. Butthe towering flames and flying embers rendered them useless this time.Dozens of motorists gathered on an Interstate 15 overpass in San Diegoto watch flames race up a hillside and engulf at least a half-dozenhomes. Witnesses said they watched flames jump west across the 10-lanefreeway."The flames were like 100 feet high and it moved up the hill inseconds. It was at the bottom, it was in the middle, and then it wasat the top," said Steve Jarrett, who helped a friend evacuate his homein nearby Escondido.Fire near the San Diego Wild Animal Park led authorities to movecondors, a cheetah, snakes and other animals to the fire-resistantveterinary hospital on the grounds of the park. The large animals,such as elephants, rhinos and antelope, were left in irrigatedenclosures.The world-famous San Diego Zoo was not immediately threatened.Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency in the seven affectedcounties, opening the way for government aid. He also made 1,500California National Guardsmen available, and San Diego Mayor JerrySanders said the troops' main focus would be to prevent looting andhelp with evacuations."Its a tragic time for California," the governor said in Malibu, wherea church, homes and a mansion resembling a medieval castle weredestroyed over the weekend.White House deputy press secretary Scott Stanzel said in an e-mailthat President Bush called Schwarzenegger to make sure the state isgetting the help it needs.One person died in one of the fires near San Diego. More than a dozenpeople were hospitalized with burns and smoke inhalation, includingfour firefighters, three of whom were listed in critical condition,officials said. Some of the injured were hikers, while others may beillegal immigrants.Among the evacuees were members of a National Guard unit that had toflee its barracks, officials said.Flames forced the evacuation of the San Diego community of Ramona,which has a population of about 36,000.Christine Baird, 42, was ordered to evacuate her apartment in theRancho Bernardo area at 5:30 a.m. She moved to California from Canadaearlier this year."Instead of snow we had ash all over the car," she said. "This is allnew for me. We've got no family in the area, so there's really nowhereelse to go."___Contributing to this report were Associated Press writers Chelsea J.Carter and Jeremiah Marquez in Los Angeles, Jacob Adelman in SantaClarita, and Elliot Spagat and Scott Lindlaw in San Diego; andNational Writer Martha Mendoza in Lake Arrowhead.