Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Hi Lila, Verify the accuracy of the TOB. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:08 PM Venus in Libra and beauty My Dear Professor, With all due respect, sir, I beg to differ on Rahu afflicting Saturn. SA at 27 degrees would have a 100% Rahu Affliction, 26 degrees - 80%, 25 degrees - 60%, 24 degrees -40%, 23 degrees - 20%, 22 degrees - zero percent. In beauty pagents now give prizes for " most facially gifted " . This person is " facially challenged " . The absence of physical attractiveness isn't sue to an illness, it's just plain homeliness. stout or not. Please tell me -- if I had shown you this chart without any comment, would you have known she was ugly? Thank you. Lila Hello Lila, When the planet is weak then it impacts the basic characteristics. Additionally, in this case the Sun is in exact conjunction with the MMP Mercury which might have caused some problem to her health in the form of blood affliction right at birth. The weakness of Saturn and affliction of Rahu to same contributes to stoutness. Best wishes. - dmk Please tell me Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:02 AM Re: Signification for ones profession? Just as I thought. So here is my quandry: Sept 24 1952 10am Boston MA 17:22 Libra This woman looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick. Addtionally stout and rather hairless to boot. What went wrong? Sure VE in only 3 degrees, but this should still give her beauty, just not a supermodel type. VE 3 degrees is still a benefic, not a malefic! Lila Hello Lila, Your assumptions are correct. Best wishes. - dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:20 AM Re: Signification for ones profeand a kill joy and dour personality ssion? My Dear Professor, Are my assumptions below correct? 1) Venus is a significator for physical beauty 2) 1st house governs physical beauty 3) Libra rising Venus in the 1st house -- unaffflicited by a malefic -- should give great beauty. Thank you. Lila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Been there, done that. Lila Hi Lila, Verify the accuracy of the TOB. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:08 PM Venus in Libra and beauty My Dear Professor, With all due respect, sir, I beg to differ on Rahu afflicting Saturn. SA at 27 degrees would have a 100% Rahu Affliction, 26 degrees - 80%, 25 degrees - 60%, 24 degrees -40%, 23 degrees - 20%, 22 degrees - zero percent. In beauty pagents now give prizes for " most facially gifted " . This person is " facially challenged " . The absence of physical attractiveness isn't sue to an illness, it's just plain homeliness. stout or not. Please tell me -- if I had shown you this chart without any comment, would you have known she was ugly? Thank you. Lila Hello Lila, When the planet is weak then it impacts the basic characteristics. Additionally, in this case the Sun is in exact conjunction with the MMP Mercury which might have caused some problem to her health in the form of blood affliction right at birth. The weakness of Saturn and affliction of Rahu to same contributes to stoutness. Best wishes. - dmk Please tell me Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:02 AM Re: Signification for ones profession? Just as I thought. So here is my quandry: Sept 24 1952 10am Boston MA 17:22 Libra This woman looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick. Addtionally stout and rather hairless to boot. What went wrong? Sure VE in only 3 degrees, but this should still give her beauty, just not a supermodel type. VE 3 degrees is still a benefic, not a malefic! Lila Hello Lila, Your assumptions are correct. Best wishes. - dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:20 AM Re: Signification for ones profeand a kill joy and dour personality ssion? My Dear Professor, Are my assumptions below correct? 1) Venus is a significator for physical beauty 2) 1st house governs physical beauty 3) Libra rising Venus in the 1st house -- unaffflicited by a malefic -- should give great beauty. Thank you. Lila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Hello Lila, Beauty part is dealt with the strength of the lord of the ascendant and absence of any strong affliction. Strong affliction to the Sun and weakness of Venus right at birth does cause concerns on this account. In early stages of life this chart would never come for astrological consultation for beauty but will come for health. Weak planets fail to protect their significations. Best wishes. - dmk Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:38 AM Venus in Libra and beauty My Dear Professor, With all due respect, sir, I beg to differ on Rahu afflicting Saturn. SA at 27 degrees would have a 100% Rahu Affliction, 26 degrees - 80%, 25 degrees - 60%, 24 degrees -40%, 23 degrees - 20%, 22 degrees - zero percent. In beauty pagents now give prizes for " most facially gifted " . This person is " facially challenged " . The absence of physical attractiveness isn't sue to an illness, it's just plain homeliness. stout or not. Please tell me -- if I had shown you this chart without any comment, would you have known she was ugly? Thank you. Lila Hello Lila, When the planet is weak then it impacts the basic characteristics. Additionally, in this case the Sun is in exact conjunction with the MMP Mercury which might have caused some problem to her health in the form of blood affliction right at birth. The weakness of Saturn and affliction of Rahu to same contributes to stoutness. Best wishes. - dmk Please tell me Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:02 AM Re: Signification for ones profession? Just as I thought. So here is my quandry: Sept 24 1952 10am Boston MA 17:22 Libra This woman looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick. Addtionally stout and rather hairless to boot. What went wrong? Sure VE in only 3 degrees, but this should still give her beauty, just not a supermodel type. VE 3 degrees is still a benefic, not a malefic! Lila Hello Lila, Your assumptions are correct. Best wishes. - dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:20 AM Re: Signification for ones profeand a kill joy and dour personality ssion? My Dear Professor, Are my assumptions below correct? 1) Venus is a significator for physical beauty 2) 1st house governs physical beauty 3) Libra rising Venus in the 1st house -- unaffflicited by a malefic -- should give great beauty. Thank you. Lila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 You see, Vyas, there are only three suspects in this chart: RA, KE, and ME. Even if she had a 100% RA/KE axis afflistion, it would not affect VE or 1H, indicators of beauty. If MMP ME were on the MEP, Ditto -- does not affect VE or 1H or beauty. And this girl is, well, to say " not graced with good looks " is being kind. My problem is that I do not think there is a time for Libra Ascendant in this chart that would so directly afflict beauty. This chart would have to be way, way off to turn it into another rising sign. At 9am it is Libra rising, at 11am it is still Libra rising. I guess, as usual, I am missing something. Lila Hi Lila, Verify the accuracy of the TOB. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:08 PM Venus in Libra and beauty My Dear Professor, With all due respect, sir, I beg to differ on Rahu afflicting Saturn. SA at 27 degrees would have a 100% Rahu Affliction, 26 degrees - 80%, 25 degrees - 60%, 24 degrees -40%, 23 degrees - 20%,Anyway 22 degrees - zero percent. In beauty pagents now give prizes for " most facially gifted " . This person is " facially challenged " . The absence of physical attractiveness isn't sue to an illness, it's just plain homeliness. stout or not. Please tell me -- if I had shown you this chart without any comment, would you have known she was ugly? Thank you. Lila Hello Lila, When the planet is weak then it impacts the basic characteristics. Additionally, in this case the Sun is in exact conjunction with the MMP Mercury which might have caused some problem to her health in the form of blood affliction right at birth. The weakness of Saturn and affliction of Rahu to same contributes to stoutness. Best wishes. - dmk Please tell me Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:02 AM Re: Signification for ones profession? Just as I thought. So here is my quandry: Sept 24 1952 10am Boston MA 17:22 Libra This woman looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick. Addtionally stout and rather hairless to boot. What went wrong? Sure VE in only 3 degrees, but this should still give her beauty, just not a supermodel type. VE 3 degrees is still a benefic, not a malefic! Lila Hello Lila, Your assumptions are correct. Best wishes. - dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:20 AM Re: Signification for ones profeand a kill joy and dour personality ssion? My Dear Professor, Are my assumptions below correct? 1) Venus is a significator for physical beauty 2) 1st house governs physical beauty 3) Libra rising Venus in the 1st house -- unaffflicited by a malefic -- should give great beauty. Thank you. Lila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Hi Lila, Merely Libra rising with Venus in the Asc, with no influences on the sign should give at least average looks, even with this Venus that is in 41% infancy. By no measure should the person be as hideous as you've impressioned. makes a good point, regarding the close affliction to Saturn by Rahu and exact affliction to the Sun by the MMP, both in the 12H, contributing to stoutness. (BTW, , thank you for sharing this insight, I didn't know) You said that you have have verified the TOB; I've come across folks who have sworn on their mother's eyes about such accuracy only for it to turn out wrong after monitoring for even a few months. You may have even back-tested a few events that hold some promise for the provided data; perhaps even come across events that couldn't pass without a push. It's a simple matter of the perfect fit or not. If it doesn't fit, throw it out. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:53 PM Re: Venus in Libra and beauty You see, Vyas, there are only three suspects in this chart: RA, KE, and ME. Even if she had a 100% RA/KE axis afflistion, it would not affect VE or 1H, indicators of beauty. If MMP ME were on the MEP, Ditto -- does not affect VE or 1H or beauty. And this girl is, well, to say " not graced with good looks " is being kind. My problem is that I do not think there is a time for Libra Ascendant in this chart that would so directly afflict beauty. This chart would have to be way, way off to turn it into another rising sign. At 9am it is Libra rising, at 11am it is still Libra rising. I guess, as usual, I am missing something. Lila Hi Lila, Verify the accuracy of the TOB. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:08 PM Venus in Libra and beauty My Dear Professor, With all due respect, sir, I beg to differ on Rahu afflicting Saturn. SA at 27 degrees would have a 100% Rahu Affliction, 26 degrees - 80%, 25 degrees - 60%, 24 degrees -40%, 23 degrees - 20%,Anyway 22 degrees - zero percent. In beauty pagents now give prizes for " most facially gifted " . This person is " facially challenged " . The absence of physical attractiveness isn't sue to an illness, it's just plain homeliness. stout or not. Please tell me -- if I had shown you this chart without any comment, would you have known she was ugly? Thank you. Lila Hello Lila, When the planet is weak then it impacts the basic characteristics. Additionally, in this case the Sun is in exact conjunction with the MMP Mercury which might have caused some problem to her health in the form of blood affliction right at birth. The weakness of Saturn and affliction of Rahu to same contributes to stoutness. Best wishes. - dmk Please tell me Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:02 AM Re: Signification for ones profession? Just as I thought. So here is my quandry: Sept 24 1952 10am Boston MA 17:22 Libra This woman looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick. Addtionally stout and rather hairless to boot. What went wrong? Sure VE in only 3 degrees, but this should still give her beauty, just not a supermodel type. VE 3 degrees is still a benefic, not a malefic! Lila Hello Lila, Your assumptions are correct. Best wishes. - dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:20 AM Re: Signification for ones profeand a kill joy and dour personality ssion? My Dear Professor, Are my assumptions below correct? 1) Venus is a significator for physical beauty 2) 1st house governs physical beauty 3) Libra rising Venus in the 1st house -- unaffflicited by a malefic -- should give great beauty. Thank you. Lila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Vyas, I beg differ with you on RA afflicting SA. Degrees of affliction: 27:30 100% 26:30 80% 25:30 60% 24:30 40% 23:30 20% 22:30 zero Her Saturn is at 22:43 degrees. This is 2% affliction -- virtually none. To make this individual a different rising sign, the TOB would have to be off by more than one full hour, quite improbrable. There are simply no planetary aspects to VE whatsover, and VE, indicator of beauty still remains in its own sign no matter what Asc you choose. Lila Merely Libra rising with Venus in the Asc, with no influences on the sign should give at least average looks, even with this Venus that is in 41% infancy. By no measure should the person be as hideous as you've impressioned. makes a good point, regarding the close affliction to Saturn by Rahu and exact affliction to the Sun by the MMP, both in the 12H, contributing to stoutness. (BTW, , thank you for sharing this insight, I didn't know) You said that you have have verified the TOB; I've come across folks who have sworn on their mother's eyes about such accuracy only for it to turn out wrong after monitoring for even a few months. You may have even back-tested a few events that hold some promise for the provided data; perhaps even come across events that couldn't pass without a push. It's a simple matter of the perfect fit or not. If it doesn't fit, throw it out. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:53 PM Re: Venus in Libra and beauty You see, Vyas, there are only three suspects in this chart: RA, KE, and ME. Even if she had a 100% RA/KE axis afflistion, it would not affect VE or 1H, indicators of beauty. If MMP ME were on the MEP, Ditto -- does not affect VE or 1H or beauty. And this girl is, well, to say " not graced with good looks " is being kind. My problem is that I do not think there is a time for Libra Ascendant in this chart that would so directly afflict beauty. This chart would have to be way, way off to turn it into another rising sign. At 9am it is Libra rising, at 11am it is still Libra rising. I guess, as usual, I am missing something. Lila Hi Lila, Verify the accuracy of the TOB. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:08 PM Venus in Libra and beauty My Dear Professor, With all due respect, sir, I beg to differ on Rahu afflicting Saturn. SA at 27 degrees would have a 100% Rahu Affliction, 26 degrees - 80%, 25 degrees - 60%, 24 degrees -40%, 23 degrees - 20%,Anyway 22 degrees - zero percent. In beauty pagents now give prizes for " most facially gifted " . This person is " facially challenged " . The absence of physical attractiveness isn't sue to an illness, it's just plain homeliness. stout or not. Please tell me -- if I had shown you this chart without any comment, would you have known she was ugly? Thank you. Lila Hello Lila, When the planet is weak then it impacts the basic characteristics. Additionally, in this case the Sun is in exact conjunction with the MMP Mercury which might have caused some problem to her health in the form of blood affliction right at birth. The weakness of Saturn and affliction of Rahu to same contributes to stoutness. Best wishes. - dmk Please tell me Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:02 AM Re: Signification for ones profession? Just as I thought. So here is my quandry: Sept 24 1952 10am Boston MA 17:22 Libra This woman looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick. Addtionally stout and rather hairless to boot. What went wrong? Sure VE in only 3 degrees, but this should still give her beauty, just not a supermodel type. VE 3 degrees is still a benefic, not a malefic! Lila Hello Lila, Your assumptions are correct. Best wishes. - dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:20 AM Re: Signification for ones profeand a kill joy and dour personality ssion? My Dear Professor, Are my assumptions below correct? 1) Venus is a significator for physical beauty 2) 1st house governs physical beauty 3) Libra rising Venus in the 1st house -- unaffflicited by a malefic -- should give great beauty. Thank you. Lila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Hi Lila, Verify the chart by monitoring over the next few months or longer and then it may show differently. I've seen charts wrong by a 12 hours or worse sometimes. I always keep an open mind about these things. According to SA, this Saturn is badly placed, combust, it's lord is exactly combust, and is closely afflicted by Rahu (albeit just). This planet must be considered weak, afflicted and touched by Rahu, otherwise it's not SA being applied. There's not much more I can say on this, you have my recommendation and opinion. Best of luck with this quest. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <dmk Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:27 PM Re: Venus in Libra and beauty Vyas, I beg differ with you on RA afflicting SA. Degrees of affliction: 27:30 100% 26:30 80% 25:30 60% 24:30 40% 23:30 20% 22:30 zero Her Saturn is at 22:43 degrees. This is 2% affliction -- virtually none. To make this individual a different rising sign, the TOB would have to be off by more than one full hour, quite improbrable. There are simply no planetary aspects to VE whatsover, and VE, indicator of beauty still remains in its own sign no matter what Asc you choose. Lila Merely Libra rising with Venus in the Asc, with no influences on the sign should give at least average looks, even with this Venus that is in 41% infancy. By no measure should the person be as hideous as you've impressioned. makes a good point, regarding the close affliction to Saturn by Rahu and exact affliction to the Sun by the MMP, both in the 12H, contributing to stoutness. (BTW, , thank you for sharing this insight, I didn't know) You said that you have have verified the TOB; I've come across folks who have sworn on their mother's eyes about such accuracy only for it to turn out wrong after monitoring for even a few months. You may have even back-tested a few events that hold some promise for the provided data; perhaps even come across events that couldn't pass without a push. It's a simple matter of the perfect fit or not. If it doesn't fit, throw it out. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:53 PM Re: Venus in Libra and beauty You see, Vyas, there are only three suspects in this chart: RA, KE, and ME. Even if she had a 100% RA/KE axis afflistion, it would not affect VE or 1H, indicators of beauty. If MMP ME were on the MEP, Ditto -- does not affect VE or 1H or beauty. And this girl is, well, to say " not graced with good looks " is being kind. My problem is that I do not think there is a time for Libra Ascendant in this chart that would so directly afflict beauty. This chart would have to be way, way off to turn it into another rising sign. At 9am it is Libra rising, at 11am it is still Libra rising. I guess, as usual, I am missing something. Lila Hi Lila, Verify the accuracy of the TOB. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - <dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:08 PM Venus in Libra and beauty My Dear Professor, With all due respect, sir, I beg to differ on Rahu afflicting Saturn. SA at 27 degrees would have a 100% Rahu Affliction, 26 degrees - 80%, 25 degrees - 60%, 24 degrees -40%, 23 degrees - 20%,Anyway 22 degrees - zero percent. In beauty pagents now give prizes for " most facially gifted " . This person is " facially challenged " . The absence of physical attractiveness isn't sue to an illness, it's just plain homeliness. stout or not. Please tell me -- if I had shown you this chart without any comment, would you have known she was ugly? Thank you. Lila Hello Lila, When the planet is weak then it impacts the basic characteristics. Additionally, in this case the Sun is in exact conjunction with the MMP Mercury which might have caused some problem to her health in the form of blood affliction right at birth. The weakness of Saturn and affliction of Rahu to same contributes to stoutness. Best wishes. - dmk Please tell me Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:02 AM Re: Signification for ones profession? Just as I thought. So here is my quandry: Sept 24 1952 10am Boston MA 17:22 Libra This woman looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick. Addtionally stout and rather hairless to boot. What went wrong? Sure VE in only 3 degrees, but this should still give her beauty, just not a supermodel type. VE 3 degrees is still a benefic, not a malefic! Lila Hello Lila, Your assumptions are correct. Best wishes. - dmk Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:20 AM Re: Signification for ones profeand a kill joy and dour personality ssion? My Dear Professor, Are my assumptions below correct? 1) Venus is a significator for physical beauty 2) 1st house governs physical beauty 3) Libra rising Venus in the 1st house -- unaffflicited by a malefic -- should give great beauty. Thank you. Lila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Hello Vyas, I quote you here: " This planet must be considered weak, afflicted and touched by Rahu, otherwise it's not SA being applied. " Here are the details of a chart, where SA does not come out clear. OR maybe, I'm missing something. ------- 7th June 1965 -- 12:35 PM -- Bombay, India ------- This native is a very successful marine engineer and financially well off. According to my knowledge of SA, Rahu if afflicting, would weaken those planets, exalted or not. Regards, Fraser , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Hi Lila, > > Verify the chart by monitoring over the next few months or longer and then > it may show differently. I've seen charts wrong by a 12 hours or worse > sometimes. I always keep an open mind about these things. > > According to SA, this Saturn is badly placed, combust, it's lord is exactly > combust, and is closely afflicted by Rahu (albeit just). This planet must be > considered weak, afflicted and touched by Rahu, otherwise it's not SA being > applied. > > There's not much more I can say on this, you have my recommendation and > opinion. Best of luck with this quest. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > <dmk > > Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:27 PM > Re: Venus in Libra and beauty > > > Vyas, > > I beg differ with you on RA afflicting SA. > Degrees of affliction: > 27:30 100% > 26:30 80% > 25:30 60% > 24:30 40% > 23:30 20% > 22:30 zero > > Her Saturn is at 22:43 degrees. This is 2% affliction -- virtually none. > > To make this individual a different rising sign, the TOB would have to be > off by more than one full hour, quite improbrable. There are simply no > planetary aspects to VE whatsover, and VE, indicator of beauty still > remains in its own sign no matter what Asc you choose. > > Lila > > > > Merely Libra rising with Venus in the Asc, with no influences on the sign > should give at least average looks, even with this Venus that is in 41% > infancy. By no measure should the person be as hideous as you've > impressioned. > > makes a good point, regarding the close affliction to > Saturn by Rahu and exact affliction to the Sun by the MMP, both in the 12H, > contributing to stoutness. (BTW, , thank you for sharing > this insight, I didn't know) > > You said that you have have verified the TOB; I've come across folks who > have sworn on their mother's eyes about such accuracy only for it to turn > out wrong after monitoring for even a few months. You may have even > back-tested a few events that hold some promise for the provided data; > perhaps even come across events that couldn't pass without a push. > > It's a simple matter of the perfect fit or not. If it doesn't fit, throw it > out. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > <dmk > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:53 PM > Re: Venus in Libra and beauty > > > You see, Vyas, there are only three suspects in this chart: RA, KE, and > ME. Even if she had a 100% RA/KE axis afflistion, it would not affect VE > or 1H, indicators of beauty. If MMP ME were on the MEP, Ditto -- does not > affect VE or 1H or beauty. And this girl is, well, to say " not graced > with good looks " is being kind. > > My problem is that I do not think there is a time for Libra Ascendant in > this chart that would so directly afflict beauty. This chart would have > to be way, way off to turn it into another rising sign. At 9am it is > Libra rising, at 11am it is still Libra rising. > > I guess, as usual, I am missing something. > > > Lila > > > > > Hi Lila, > > Verify the accuracy of the TOB. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > <dmk > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:08 PM > Venus in Libra and beauty > > > My Dear Professor, > > With all due respect, sir, I beg to differ on Rahu afflicting Saturn. SA > at 27 degrees would have a 100% Rahu Affliction, 26 degrees - 80%, 25 > degrees - 60%, 24 degrees -40%, 23 degrees - 20%,Anyway 22 degrees - zero > percent. > > In beauty pagents now give prizes for " most facially gifted " . This > person is " facially challenged " . The absence of physical attractiveness > isn't sue to an illness, it's just plain homeliness. stout or not. > > Please tell me -- if I had shown you this chart without any comment, > would you have known she was ugly? > > Thank you. > > Lila > > > > Hello Lila, > > When the planet is weak then it impacts the basic characteristics. > Additionally, in this case the Sun is in exact conjunction with the MMP > Mercury which might have caused some problem to her health in the form of > blood affliction right at birth. The weakness of Saturn and affliction of > Rahu to same contributes to stoutness. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > - > dmk Please tell me > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:02 AM > Re: Signification for ones profession? > > > Just as I thought. So here is my quandry: > > Sept 24 1952 > 10am > Boston MA > 17:22 Libra > > This woman looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick. Addtionally > stout and rather hairless to boot. What went wrong? > > Sure VE in only 3 degrees, but this should still give her beauty, just > not a supermodel type. VE 3 degrees is still a benefic, not a malefic! > > Lila > > Hello Lila, > > Your assumptions are correct. > > Best wishes. > > > > - > dmk > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:20 AM > Re: Signification for ones profeand a kill joy and > dour personality ssion? > > My Dear Professor, > > Are my assumptions below correct? > > 1) Venus is a significator for physical beauty > > 2) 1st house governs physical beauty > > 3) Libra rising Venus in the 1st house -- unaffflicited by a malefic -- > should give great beauty. > > Thank you. > > Lila > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hello Lila, In this case the main affliction is that of the Sun by MMP Mercury which tells upon challenges to beauty. The weakness of Saturn contributes to stoutness. Best wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 I truly never knew that 12H or Sun or 11L had to do with beauty. This is true? Thank you. Lila Hello Lila, In this case the main affliction is that of the Sun by MMP Mercury which tells upon challenges to beauty. The weakness of Saturn contributes to stoutness. Best wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hi Fraser, Yes, your suspicion about view is correct. Material rise and success is there, but there will be fluctuations. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " fraser " <fraser Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:25 PM Re: Venus in Libra and beauty Hello Vyas, I quote you here: " This planet must be considered weak, afflicted and touched by Rahu, otherwise it's not SA being applied. " Here are the details of a chart, where SA does not come out clear. OR maybe, I'm missing something. ------- 7th June 1965 -- 12:35 PM -- Bombay, India ------- This native is a very successful marine engineer and financially well off. According to my knowledge of SA, Rahu if afflicting, would weaken those planets, exalted or not. Regards, Fraser , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Hi Lila, > > Verify the chart by monitoring over the next few months or longer and then > it may show differently. I've seen charts wrong by a 12 hours or worse > sometimes. I always keep an open mind about these things. > > According to SA, this Saturn is badly placed, combust, it's lord is exactly > combust, and is closely afflicted by Rahu (albeit just). This planet must be > considered weak, afflicted and touched by Rahu, otherwise it's not SA being > applied. > > There's not much more I can say on this, you have my recommendation and > opinion. Best of luck with this quest. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > <dmk > > Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:27 PM > Re: Venus in Libra and beauty > > > Vyas, > > I beg differ with you on RA afflicting SA. > Degrees of affliction: > 27:30 100% > 26:30 80% > 25:30 60% > 24:30 40% > 23:30 20% > 22:30 zero > > Her Saturn is at 22:43 degrees. This is 2% affliction -- virtually none. > > To make this individual a different rising sign, the TOB would have to be > off by more than one full hour, quite improbrable. There are simply no > planetary aspects to VE whatsover, and VE, indicator of beauty still > remains in its own sign no matter what Asc you choose. > > Lila > > > > Merely Libra rising with Venus in the Asc, with no influences on the sign > should give at least average looks, even with this Venus that is in 41% > infancy. By no measure should the person be as hideous as you've > impressioned. > > makes a good point, regarding the close affliction to > Saturn by Rahu and exact affliction to the Sun by the MMP, both in the 12H, > contributing to stoutness. (BTW, , thank you for sharing > this insight, I didn't know) > > You said that you have have verified the TOB; I've come across folks who > have sworn on their mother's eyes about such accuracy only for it to turn > out wrong after monitoring for even a few months. You may have even > back-tested a few events that hold some promise for the provided data; > perhaps even come across events that couldn't pass without a push. > > It's a simple matter of the perfect fit or not. If it doesn't fit, throw it > out. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > <dmk > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:53 PM > Re: Venus in Libra and beauty > > > You see, Vyas, there are only three suspects in this chart: RA, KE, and > ME. Even if she had a 100% RA/KE axis afflistion, it would not affect VE > or 1H, indicators of beauty. If MMP ME were on the MEP, Ditto -- does not > affect VE or 1H or beauty. And this girl is, well, to say " not graced > with good looks " is being kind. > > My problem is that I do not think there is a time for Libra Ascendant in > this chart that would so directly afflict beauty. This chart would have > to be way, way off to turn it into another rising sign. At 9am it is > Libra rising, at 11am it is still Libra rising. > > I guess, as usual, I am missing something. > > > Lila > > > > > Hi Lila, > > Verify the accuracy of the TOB. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > <dmk > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:08 PM > Venus in Libra and beauty > > > My Dear Professor, > > With all due respect, sir, I beg to differ on Rahu afflicting Saturn. SA > at 27 degrees would have a 100% Rahu Affliction, 26 degrees - 80%, 25 > degrees - 60%, 24 degrees -40%, 23 degrees - 20%,Anyway 22 degrees - zero > percent. > > In beauty pagents now give prizes for " most facially gifted " . This > person is " facially challenged " . The absence of physical attractiveness > isn't sue to an illness, it's just plain homeliness. stout or not. > > Please tell me -- if I had shown you this chart without any comment, > would you have known she was ugly? > > Thank you. > > Lila > > > > Hello Lila, > > When the planet is weak then it impacts the basic characteristics. > Additionally, in this case the Sun is in exact conjunction with the MMP > Mercury which might have caused some problem to her health in the form of > blood affliction right at birth. The weakness of Saturn and affliction of > Rahu to same contributes to stoutness. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > - > dmk Please tell me > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:02 AM > Re: Signification for ones profession? > > > Just as I thought. So here is my quandry: > > Sept 24 1952 > 10am > Boston MA > 17:22 Libra > > This woman looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick. Addtionally > stout and rather hairless to boot. What went wrong? > > Sure VE in only 3 degrees, but this should still give her beauty, just > not a supermodel type. VE 3 degrees is still a benefic, not a malefic! > > Lila > > Hello Lila, > > Your assumptions are correct. > > Best wishes. > > > > - > dmk > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:20 AM > Re: Signification for ones profeand a kill joy and > dour personality ssion? > > My Dear Professor, > > Are my assumptions below correct? > > 1) Venus is a significator for physical beauty > > 2) 1st house governs physical beauty > > 3) Libra rising Venus in the 1st house -- unaffflicited by a malefic -- > should give great beauty. > > Thank you. > > Lila > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hello Hope this wouldn't be considered intervening. The 2nd house is to be considered for judging the facial looks specifically. And in the chart, the 2nd house is occupied by Mars and Debilitated Moon. The Mars is afflicted by Ketu's aspect. Debilitated planets have been found to be deteriorating the significations of the house occupied as well. Further, D-9 chart has Pisces rising wherein the 2nd lord Mars is gone to 12th house (losses, depreciation, pain) and 12th lord Saturn aspects 2nd house through its 10th aspect. The D-9 Lagna is occupied by Debilitated Mercury and malefic Sun + Ketu. It seems that the onstart of Mercury Dasa would have caused the problem specifically during the sub-period of Ketu occupying Lagna of D-9 chart and afflicting the Mars in Natal chart. , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Hi Fraser, > > Yes, your suspicion about view is correct. Material rise and success is > there, but there will be fluctuations. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " fraser " <fraser > > Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:25 PM > Re: Venus in Libra and beauty > > > Hello Vyas, > I quote you here: > " This planet must be considered weak, afflicted and touched by Rahu, > otherwise it's not SA being applied. " > Here are the details of a chart, where SA does not come out clear. > OR maybe, I'm missing something. > ------- 7th June 1965 -- 12:35 PM -- Bombay, India ------- > This native is a very successful marine engineer and financially well > off. According to my knowledge of SA, Rahu if afflicting, would > weaken those planets, exalted or not. > Regards, > Fraser > > > > , " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@> wrote: > > > > Hi Lila, > > > > Verify the chart by monitoring over the next few months or longer > and then > > it may show differently. I've seen charts wrong by a 12 hours or > worse > > sometimes. I always keep an open mind about these things. > > > > According to SA, this Saturn is badly placed, combust, it's lord is > exactly > > combust, and is closely afflicted by Rahu (albeit just). This > planet must be > > considered weak, afflicted and touched by Rahu, otherwise it's not > SA being > > applied. > > > > There's not much more I can say on this, you have my recommendation > and > > opinion. Best of luck with this quest. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > <dmk@> > > > > Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:27 PM > > Re: Venus in Libra and beauty > > > > > > Vyas, > > > > I beg differ with you on RA afflicting SA. > > Degrees of affliction: > > 27:30 100% > > 26:30 80% > > 25:30 60% > > 24:30 40% > > 23:30 20% > > 22:30 zero > > > > Her Saturn is at 22:43 degrees. This is 2% affliction -- virtually > none. > > > > To make this individual a different rising sign, the TOB would have > to be > > off by more than one full hour, quite improbrable. There are simply > no > > planetary aspects to VE whatsover, and VE, indicator of beauty still > > remains in its own sign no matter what Asc you choose. > > > > Lila > > > > > > > > Merely Libra rising with Venus in the Asc, with no influences on > the sign > > should give at least average looks, even with this Venus that is in > 41% > > infancy. By no measure should the person be as hideous as you've > > impressioned. > > > > makes a good point, regarding the close > affliction to > > Saturn by Rahu and exact affliction to the Sun by the MMP, both in > the 12H, > > contributing to stoutness. (BTW, , thank you for > sharing > > this insight, I didn't know) > > > > You said that you have have verified the TOB; I've come across > folks who > > have sworn on their mother's eyes about such accuracy only for it > to turn > > out wrong after monitoring for even a few months. You may have even > > back-tested a few events that hold some promise for the provided > data; > > perhaps even come across events that couldn't pass without a push. > > > > It's a simple matter of the perfect fit or not. If it doesn't fit, > throw it > > out. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > <dmk@> > > > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:53 PM > > Re: Venus in Libra and beauty > > > > > > You see, Vyas, there are only three suspects in this chart: RA, KE, > and > > ME. Even if she had a 100% RA/KE axis afflistion, it would not > affect VE > > or 1H, indicators of beauty. If MMP ME were on the MEP, Ditto -- > does not > > affect VE or 1H or beauty. And this girl is, well, to say " not > graced > > with good looks " is being kind. > > > > My problem is that I do not think there is a time for Libra > Ascendant in > > this chart that would so directly afflict beauty. This chart would > have > > to be way, way off to turn it into another rising sign. At 9am it is > > Libra rising, at 11am it is still Libra rising. > > > > I guess, as usual, I am missing something. > > > > > > Lila > > > > > > > > > > Hi Lila, > > > > Verify the accuracy of the TOB. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > <dmk@> > > > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:08 PM > > Venus in Libra and beauty > > > > > > My Dear Professor, > > > > With all due respect, sir, I beg to differ on Rahu afflicting > Saturn. SA > > at 27 degrees would have a 100% Rahu Affliction, 26 degrees - 80%, > 25 > > degrees - 60%, 24 degrees -40%, 23 degrees - 20%,Anyway 22 degrees - > zero > > percent. > > > > In beauty pagents now give prizes for " most facially gifted " . This > > person is " facially challenged " . The absence of physical > attractiveness > > isn't sue to an illness, it's just plain homeliness. stout or not. > > > > Please tell me -- if I had shown you this chart without any comment, > > would you have known she was ugly? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Lila > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Lila, > > > > When the planet is weak then it impacts the basic characteristics. > > Additionally, in this case the Sun is in exact conjunction with the > MMP > > Mercury which might have caused some problem to her health in the > form of > > blood affliction right at birth. The weakness of Saturn and > affliction of > > Rahu to same contributes to stoutness. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > dmk@ Please tell me > > > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:02 AM > > Re: Signification for ones profession? > > > > > > Just as I thought. So here is my quandry: > > > > Sept 24 1952 > > 10am > > Boston MA > > 17:22 Libra > > > > This woman looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick. > Addtionally > > stout and rather hairless to boot. What went wrong? > > > > Sure VE in only 3 degrees, but this should still give her beauty, > just > > not a supermodel type. VE 3 degrees is still a benefic, not a > malefic! > > > > Lila > > > > Hello Lila, > > > > Your assumptions are correct. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > - > > dmk@ > > > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:20 AM > > Re: Signification for ones profeand a kill > joy and > > dour personality ssion? > > > > My Dear Professor, > > > > Are my assumptions below correct? > > > > 1) Venus is a significator for physical beauty > > > > 2) 1st house governs physical beauty > > > > 3) Libra rising Venus in the 1st house -- unaffflicited by a > malefic -- > > should give great beauty. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Lila > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 An interesting point, one that Andy and I discussed last month - this Mars Ketu thing. Mars, we decided, was strong in this chart, and qualified for the 1 degree rule. Because Mars is strong it does not fall into the 5 degree orb rule, and therefore is not afflicted by Ketu. And debilitated planets should not deteriorate the house they occupy unless they are on the MEP, at least in SA. Professor? Lila Hello Hope this wouldn't be considered intervening. The 2nd house is to be considered for judging the facial looks specifically. And in the chart, the 2nd house is occupied by Mars and Debilitated Moon. The Mars is afflicted by Ketu's aspect. Debilitated planets have been found to be deteriorating the significations of the house occupied as well. Further, D-9 chart has Pisces rising wherein the 2nd lord Mars is gone to 12th house (losses, depreciation, pain) and 12th lord Saturn aspects 2nd house through its 10th aspect. The D-9 Lagna is occupied by Debilitated Mercury and malefic Sun + Ketu. It seems that the onstart of Mercury Dasa would have caused the problem specifically during the sub-period of Ketu occupying Lagna of D-9 chart and afflicting the Mars in Natal chart. , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Hi Fraser, > > Yes, your suspicion about view is correct. Material rise and success is > there, but there will be fluctuations. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " fraser " <fraser > > Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:25 PM > Re: Venus in Libra and beauty > > > Hello Vyas, > I quote you here: > " This planet must be considered weak, afflicted and touched by Rahu, > otherwise it's not SA being applied. " > Here are the details of a chart, where SA does not come out clear. > OR maybe, I'm missing something. > ------- 7th June 1965 -- 12:35 PM -- Bombay, India ------- > This native is a very successful marine engineer and financially well > off. According to my knowledge of SA, Rahu if afflicting, would > weaken those planets, exalted or not. > Regards, > Fraser > > > > , " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@> wrote: > > > > Hi Lila, > > > > Verify the chart by monitoring over the next few months or longer > and then > > it may show differently. I've seen charts wrong by a 12 hours or > worse > > sometimes. I always keep an open mind about these things. > > > > According to SA, this Saturn is badly placed, combust, it's lord is > exactly > > combust, and is closely afflicted by Rahu (albeit just). This > planet must be > > considered weak, afflicted and touched by Rahu, otherwise it's not > SA being > > applied. > > > > There's not much more I can say on this, you have my recommendation > and > > opinion. Best of luck with this quest. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > <dmk@> > > > > Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:27 PM > > Re: Venus in Libra and beauty > > > > > > Vyas, > > > > I beg differ with you on RA afflicting SA. > > Degrees of affliction: > > 27:30 100% > > 26:30 80% > > 25:30 60% > > 24:30 40% > > 23:30 20% > > 22:30 zero > > > > Her Saturn is at 22:43 degrees. This is 2% affliction -- virtually > none. > > > > To make this individual a different rising sign, the TOB would have > to be > > off by more than one full hour, quite improbrable. There are simply > no > > planetary aspects to VE whatsover, and VE, indicator of beauty still > > remains in its own sign no matter what Asc you choose. > > > > Lila > > > > > > > > Merely Libra rising with Venus in the Asc, with no influences on > the sign > > should give at least average looks, even with this Venus that is in > 41% > > infancy. By no measure should the person be as hideous as you've > > impressioned. > > > > makes a good point, regarding the close > affliction to > > Saturn by Rahu and exact affliction to the Sun by the MMP, both in > the 12H, > > contributing to stoutness. (BTW, , thank you for > sharing > > this insight, I didn't know) > > > > You said that you have have verified the TOB; I've come across > folks who > > have sworn on their mother's eyes about such accuracy only for it > to turn > > out wrong after monitoring for even a few months. You may have even > > back-tested a few events that hold some promise for the provided > data; > > perhaps even come across events that couldn't pass without a push. > > > > It's a simple matter of the perfect fit or not. If it doesn't fit, > throw it > > out. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > <dmk@> > > > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:53 PM > > Re: Venus in Libra and beauty > > > > > > You see, Vyas, there are only three suspects in this chart: RA, KE, > and > > ME. Even if she had a 100% RA/KE axis afflistion, it would not > affect VE > > or 1H, indicators of beauty. If MMP ME were on the MEP, Ditto -- > does not > > affect VE or 1H or beauty. And this girl is, well, to say " not > graced > > with good looks " is being kind. > > > > My problem is that I do not think there is a time for Libra > Ascendant in > > this chart that would so directly afflict beauty. This chart would > have > > to be way, way off to turn it into another rising sign. At 9am it is > > Libra rising, at 11am it is still Libra rising. > > > > I guess, as usual, I am missing something. > > > > > > Lila > > > > > > > > > > Hi Lila, > > > > Verify the accuracy of the TOB. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > <dmk@> > > > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:08 PM > > Venus in Libra and beauty > > > > > > My Dear Professor, > > > > With all due respect, sir, I beg to differ on Rahu afflicting > Saturn. SA > > at 27 degrees would have a 100% Rahu Affliction, 26 degrees - 80%, > 25 > > degrees - 60%, 24 degrees -40%, 23 degrees - 20%,Anyway 22 degrees - > zero > > percent. > > > > In beauty pagents now give prizes for " most facially gifted " . This > > person is " facially challenged " . The absence of physical > attractiveness > > isn't sue to an illness, it's just plain homeliness. stout or not. > > > > Please tell me -- if I had shown you this chart without any comment, > > would you have known she was ugly? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Lila > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Lila, > > > > When the planet is weak then it impacts the basic characteristics. > > Additionally, in this case the Sun is in exact conjunction with the > MMP > > Mercury which might have caused some problem to her health in the > form of > > blood affliction right at birth. The weakness of Saturn and > affliction of > > Rahu to same contributes to stoutness. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > dmk@ Please tell me > > > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:02 AM > > Re: Signification for ones profession? > > > > > > Just as I thought. So here is my quandry: > > > > Sept 24 1952 > > 10am > > Boston MA > > 17:22 Libra > > > > This woman looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick. > Addtionally > > stout and rather hairless to boot. What went wrong? > > > > Sure VE in only 3 degrees, but this should still give her beauty, > just > > not a supermodel type. VE 3 degrees is still a benefic, not a > malefic! > > > > Lila > > > > Hello Lila, > > > > Your assumptions are correct. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > - > > dmk@ > > > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:20 AM > > Re: Signification for ones profeand a kill > joy and > > dour personality ssion? > > > > My Dear Professor, > > > > Are my assumptions below correct? > > > > 1) Venus is a significator for physical beauty > > > > 2) 1st house governs physical beauty > > > > 3) Libra rising Venus in the 1st house -- unaffflicited by a > malefic -- > > should give great beauty. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Lila > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Hello Lila, Your explanation of the strength of Mars and impact of Moon is OK. The major factors in this case in my view, as brought out earlier, are: 1. The weakness of Venus which does not enable it to protect its significations. 2. The exact affliction to the Sun which rules magnificence and gives weak eyesight, blood infections, skin problems, erratic blood circulation, dental problems, weak immune system, vitality, digestion, etc. All these have significant contribution to beauty. 3. The weakness of Saturn ruling the fifth house. Best wishes. - dmk Monday, January 28, 2008 9:08 AM Re: Re: Venus in Libra and beauty An interesting point, one that Andy and I discussed last month - this Mars Ketu thing. Mars, we decided, was strong in this chart, and qualified for the 1 degree rule. Because Mars is strong it does not fall into the 5 degree orb rule, and therefore is not afflicted by Ketu. And debilitated planets should not deteriorate the house they occupy unless they are on the MEP, at least in SA. Professor? Lila Hello Hope this wouldn't be considered intervening. The 2nd house is to be considered for judging the facial looks specifically. And in the chart, the 2nd house is occupied by Mars and Debilitated Moon. The Mars is afflicted by Ketu's aspect. Debilitated planets have been found to be deteriorating the significations of the house occupied as well. Further, D-9 chart has Pisces rising wherein the 2nd lord Mars is gone to 12th house (losses, depreciation, pain) and 12th lord Saturn aspects 2nd house through its 10th aspect. The D-9 Lagna is occupied by Debilitated Mercury and malefic Sun + Ketu. It seems that the onstart of Mercury Dasa would have caused the problem specifically during the sub-period of Ketu occupying Lagna of D-9 chart and afflicting the Mars in Natal chart. , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Hi Fraser, > > Yes, your suspicion about view is correct. Material rise and success is > there, but there will be fluctuations. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > - > " fraser " <fraser > > Sunday, January 27, 2008 4:25 PM > Re: Venus in Libra and beauty > > > Hello Vyas, > I quote you here: > " This planet must be considered weak, afflicted and touched by Rahu, > otherwise it's not SA being applied. " > Here are the details of a chart, where SA does not come out clear. > OR maybe, I'm missing something. > ------- 7th June 1965 -- 12:35 PM -- Bombay, India ------- > This native is a very successful marine engineer and financially well > off. According to my knowledge of SA, Rahu if afflicting, would > weaken those planets, exalted or not. > Regards, > Fraser > > > > , " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@> wrote: > > > > Hi Lila, > > > > Verify the chart by monitoring over the next few months or longer > and then > > it may show differently. I've seen charts wrong by a 12 hours or > worse > > sometimes. I always keep an open mind about these things. > > > > According to SA, this Saturn is badly placed, combust, it's lord is > exactly > > combust, and is closely afflicted by Rahu (albeit just). This > planet must be > > considered weak, afflicted and touched by Rahu, otherwise it's not > SA being > > applied. > > > > There's not much more I can say on this, you have my recommendation > and > > opinion. Best of luck with this quest. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > <dmk@> > > > > Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:27 PM > > Re: Venus in Libra and beauty > > > > > > Vyas, > > > > I beg differ with you on RA afflicting SA. > > Degrees of affliction: > > 27:30 100% > > 26:30 80% > > 25:30 60% > > 24:30 40% > > 23:30 20% > > 22:30 zero > > > > Her Saturn is at 22:43 degrees. This is 2% affliction -- virtually > none. > > > > To make this individual a different rising sign, the TOB would have > to be > > off by more than one full hour, quite improbrable. There are simply > no > > planetary aspects to VE whatsover, and VE, indicator of beauty still > > remains in its own sign no matter what Asc you choose. > > > > Lila > > > > > > > > Merely Libra rising with Venus in the Asc, with no influences on > the sign > > should give at least average looks, even with this Venus that is in > 41% > > infancy. By no measure should the person be as hideous as you've > > impressioned. > > > > makes a good point, regarding the close > affliction to > > Saturn by Rahu and exact affliction to the Sun by the MMP, both in > the 12H, > > contributing to stoutness. (BTW, , thank you for > sharing > > this insight, I didn't know) > > > > You said that you have have verified the TOB; I've come across > folks who > > have sworn on their mother's eyes about such accuracy only for it > to turn > > out wrong after monitoring for even a few months. You may have even > > back-tested a few events that hold some promise for the provided > data; > > perhaps even come across events that couldn't pass without a push. > > > > It's a simple matter of the perfect fit or not. If it doesn't fit, > throw it > > out. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > <dmk@> > > > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:53 PM > > Re: Venus in Libra and beauty > > > > > > You see, Vyas, there are only three suspects in this chart: RA, KE, > and > > ME. Even if she had a 100% RA/KE axis afflistion, it would not > affect VE > > or 1H, indicators of beauty. If MMP ME were on the MEP, Ditto -- > does not > > affect VE or 1H or beauty. And this girl is, well, to say " not > graced > > with good looks " is being kind. > > > > My problem is that I do not think there is a time for Libra > Ascendant in > > this chart that would so directly afflict beauty. This chart would > have > > to be way, way off to turn it into another rising sign. At 9am it is > > Libra rising, at 11am it is still Libra rising. > > > > I guess, as usual, I am missing something. > > > > > > Lila > > > > > > > > > > Hi Lila, > > > > Verify the accuracy of the TOB. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > - > > <dmk@> > > > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 9:08 PM > > Venus in Libra and beauty > > > > > > My Dear Professor, > > > > With all due respect, sir, I beg to differ on Rahu afflicting > Saturn. SA > > at 27 degrees would have a 100% Rahu Affliction, 26 degrees - 80%, > 25 > > degrees - 60%, 24 degrees -40%, 23 degrees - 20%,Anyway 22 degrees - > zero > > percent. > > > > In beauty pagents now give prizes for " most facially gifted " . This > > person is " facially challenged " . The absence of physical > attractiveness > > isn't sue to an illness, it's just plain homeliness. stout or not. > > > > Please tell me -- if I had shown you this chart without any comment, > > would you have known she was ugly? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Lila > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Lila, > > > > When the planet is weak then it impacts the basic characteristics. > > Additionally, in this case the Sun is in exact conjunction with the > MMP > > Mercury which might have caused some problem to her health in the > form of > > blood affliction right at birth. The weakness of Saturn and > affliction of > > Rahu to same contributes to stoutness. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > dmk@ Please tell me > > > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:02 AM > > Re: Signification for ones profession? > > > > > > Just as I thought. So here is my quandry: > > > > Sept 24 1952 > > 10am > > Boston MA > > 17:22 Libra > > > > This woman looks like she was beaten with an ugly stick. > Addtionally > > stout and rather hairless to boot. What went wrong? > > > > Sure VE in only 3 degrees, but this should still give her beauty, > just > > not a supermodel type. VE 3 degrees is still a benefic, not a > malefic! > > > > Lila > > > > Hello Lila, > > > > Your assumptions are correct. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > - > > dmk@ > > > > Saturday, January 26, 2008 6:20 AM > > Re: Signification for ones profeand a kill > joy and > > dour personality ssion? > > > > My Dear Professor, > > > > Are my assumptions below correct? > > > > 1) Venus is a significator for physical beauty > > > > 2) 1st house governs physical beauty > > > > 3) Libra rising Venus in the 1st house -- unaffflicited by a > malefic -- > > should give great beauty. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Lila > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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