Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 How can a person born outside the US be eligible for the office of the President? Did anyone verify the data? DB SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: Dear David and , John McCain Aug 29, 1936 9:00 am, 5:00 EST Cocosolo, Panama 24:57 Virgo lagna Warm regards, Shayn " siha " <siha SAMVA Sunday, February 3, 2008 8:40:53 PM Re: Jupiter and John McCain Hello dear Mr. Smith, Can you please post birth particulars of Mr. John McCain. Best wishes. - David Hawthorne SAMVA Monday, February 04, 2008 8:58 AM RE: Jupiter and John McCain Dear Shayn: Good post and observation. Can you share his birth data? Thanks. David Hawthorne SAMVA [sAMVA] On Behalf Of Shayn Smith Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:40 AM SAMVA Jupiter and John McCain Dear List, John McCain is on top as the Republican front-runner for his party's nomination for U.S. President. His entire campaign is taking place during his Jupiter subperiod, so much of his success rides on that planet's strength. Natally, it is debilitated in Navamsha and influences the third house of initiatives, courage, and communication. This aspect explains his drive to become President, his status as a war hero, and his campaign theme of " Straight Talk Express. " Jupiter's rulership of his 4th house allows him to run on his character. Transiting Jupiter in Scorpio entered old age in mid-March, 2007. A month later, newspapers announced his campaign was in financial trouble as he cut positions from his campaign staff. Jupiter retrograded back into health and his campaign again picked up steam. The beginning of November, however, saw Jupiter once again weak as it transited into old age and then infancy until mid-Decmber. During this time, McCain took out a $3 million loan to turn his campaign around. After transiting Jupiter gained strength, so did his campaign. Transiting Jupiter in Sagittarius goes into old age in late March and will be afflicted by the transiting MMP Mars in mid-April. By May, the transiting nodes will begin influencing his odd-numbered houses. By June, transiting Ketu will affect his natal Jupiter. By the end of June, transiting Jupiter will regain strength, but the impact of the transiting nodes will remain through the convention and the elections. This could be a difficult time for him and his campaign. Warm regards, Shayn Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Dear DB, Good question. His birth data is given a Rodden rating of A which means accurate data as quoted by the person, kin, friend, or associate...in this case his mother. His dad was in the U.S. Navy stationed in Panama. He is a U.S. citizen according to Article II of the U.S. Constitution which states " No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President... " and the First Congress which states " The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens of the United States. " Sources: http://www.astrodatabank.com/RoddenRatings.htm http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/campaigns/junkie/archive/junkie070\ 998.htm Warm regards, Shayn devibhakt <devibhakt Monday, February 4, 2008 8:39:24 AM Fwd: Re: Jupiter and John McCain How can a person born outside the US be eligible for the office of the President? Did anyone verify the data? DB SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ ...> wrote: Dear David and , John McCain Aug 29, 1936 9:00 am, 5:00 EST Cocosolo, Panama 24:57 Virgo lagna Warm regards, Shayn " siha " <siha SAMVA Sunday, February 3, 2008 8:40:53 PM Re: Jupiter and John McCain Hello dear Mr. Smith, Can you please post birth particulars of Mr. John McCain. Best wishes. - David Hawthorne SAMVA Monday, February 04, 2008 8:58 AM RE: Jupiter and John McCain Dear Shayn: Good post and observation. Can you share his birth data? Thanks. David Hawthorne SAMVA [sAMVA] On Behalf Of Shayn Smith Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:40 AM SAMVA Jupiter and John McCain Dear List, John McCain is on top as the Republican front-runner for his party's nomination for U.S. President. His entire campaign is taking place during his Jupiter subperiod, so much of his success rides on that planet's strength. Natally, it is debilitated in Navamsha and influences the third house of initiatives, courage, and communication. This aspect explains his drive to become President, his status as a war hero, and his campaign theme of " Straight Talk Express. " Jupiter's rulership of his 4th house allows him to run on his character. Transiting Jupiter in Scorpio entered old age in mid-March, 2007. A month later, newspapers announced his campaign was in financial trouble as he cut positions from his campaign staff. Jupiter retrograded back into health and his campaign again picked up steam. The beginning of November, however, saw Jupiter once again weak as it transited into old age and then infancy until mid-Decmber. During this time, McCain took out a $3 million loan to turn his campaign around. After transiting Jupiter gained strength, so did his campaign. Transiting Jupiter in Sagittarius goes into old age in late March and will be afflicted by the transiting MMP Mars in mid-April. By May, the transiting nodes will begin influencing his odd-numbered houses. By June, transiting Ketu will affect his natal Jupiter. By the end of June, transiting Jupiter will regain strength, but the impact of the transiting nodes will remain through the convention and the elections. This could be a difficult time for him and his campaign. Warm regards, Shayn Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Thanks for clarification. I did not know about the second part of the law where children of US citizens born outside of the US are considered as natural US born citizens. DB , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith wrote: > > Dear DB, > Good question. His birth data is given a Rodden rating of A which means accurate data as quoted by the person, kin, friend, or associate...in this case his mother. His dad was in the U.S. Navy stationed in Panama. He is a U.S. citizen according to Article II of the U.S. Constitution which states " No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President... " and the First Congress which states " The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens of the United States. " > > Sources: > http://www.astrodatabank.com/RoddenRatings.htm > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp- srv/politics/campaigns/junkie/archive/junkie070998.htm > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > > > > devibhakt <devibhakt > > Monday, February 4, 2008 8:39:24 AM > Fwd: Re: Jupiter and John McCain > > How can a person born outside the US be eligible for the office of > the President? > > Did anyone verify the data? > > DB > > SAMVA , Shayn Smith <mactunesmith@ ...> wrote: > > Dear David and , > > John McCain > Aug 29, 1936 > 9:00 am, 5:00 EST > Cocosolo, Panama > 24:57 Virgo lagna > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > > " siha@ " <siha@> > SAMVA > Sunday, February 3, 2008 8:40:53 PM > Re: Jupiter and John McCain > > Hello dear Mr. Smith, > > Can you please post birth particulars of Mr. John McCain. > > Best wishes. > > > > - > David Hawthorne > SAMVA > Monday, February 04, 2008 8:58 AM > RE: Jupiter and John McCain > > Dear Shayn: > > Good post and observation. > > Can you share his birth data? > > Thanks. > > David Hawthorne > > > SAMVA [sAMVA] On > Behalf Of Shayn Smith > Saturday, February 02, 2008 9:40 AM > SAMVA > Jupiter and John McCain > > Dear List, > > John McCain is on top as the Republican front-runner for his party's > nomination for U.S. President. His entire campaign is taking place > during his Jupiter subperiod, so much of his success rides on that > planet's strength. Natally, it is debilitated in Navamsha and > influences the third house of initiatives, courage, and > communication. This aspect explains his drive to become President, > his status as a war hero, and his campaign theme of " Straight Talk > Express. " Jupiter's rulership of his 4th house allows him to run on > his character. > > Transiting Jupiter in Scorpio entered old age in mid-March, 2007. A > month later, newspapers announced his campaign was in financial > trouble as he cut positions from his campaign staff. Jupiter > retrograded back into health and his campaign again picked up steam. > The beginning of November, however, saw Jupiter once again weak as it > transited into old age and then infancy until mid-Decmber. During > this time, McCain took out a $3 million loan to turn his campaign > around. After transiting Jupiter gained strength, so did his > campaign. > > Transiting Jupiter in Sagittarius goes into old age in late March and > will be afflicted by the transiting MMP Mars in mid-April. By May, > the transiting nodes will begin influencing his odd-numbered houses. > By June, transiting Ketu will affect his natal Jupiter. By the end of > June, transiting Jupiter will regain strength, but the impact of the > transiting nodes will remain through the convention and the > elections. This could be a difficult time for him and his campaign. > > Warm regards, > Shayn > > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1256 - Release Date: > 2/2/2008 1:50 PM > > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1256 - Release Date: > 2/2/2008 1:50 PM > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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