Guest guest Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Thor, I am thinking: Debilitated sun for Gemini conjunct Rahu may even make it more likely for perpetrator behavior to occur due to lack of self confidence, and there fore the person only sees unlawful ways to accomplish his goals. Perhaps the Professor can tell us if this may be true. Lila Stepping out on a limb, perhaps we could thus suggest the following charactersistic of action for each sign: 1. Aries (MARS as 1st lord): enterprising and courageous physical action involving the self/body (entrepreneurial self) 2. Taurus (MOON as 3rd lord and SATURN as 10th lord): action with an eye to the public interest and guarded or steady action in public) 3. Gemini (SUN as 3rd lord): action with authority 4. Cancer (MERCURY as 3rd lord and 10th lord MARS): communicative/analytic action and enterprising career 5. Leo (VENUS as 3rd lord and SUN as 1st lord): knowledgeable action and authorative action involving the self/body 6. Virgo (MERCURY as 1st lord): communicative/analytical action involving the self/body. 7. Libra (JUPITER as 3rd lord, VENUS as 1st lord and MOON as 10th lord): expansive action, knowledgeable action involving self/body and public relations oriented action in career) 8. Scorpio (SUN as 10th lord): authorative action in career 9. Sagittarius (SATURN as 3rd lord, JUPITER as 1st lord and MERCURY as 10th lord): guarded or slow action, expansive action involving self/body and communicative action in career 10. Capricorn (VENUS as 10th lord): knowledgeable action in career 11. Aquarius (MARS as 3rd lord, SATURN as 1st lord): enetrprising or couragoues action, guarded or slow action involving self/body. 12. Pisces (JUPITER as 10th lord): expansive action in career Thanks for your guidance in clarifying such insights. Best wishes, Thor , " SIHA " <vkchoudhry wrote: > > Hello dear Thor, > > All three the asdt, third and tenth houses are the houses of action. > > The ascendants like Libra and Sagittarius, with three > such indicators, are more entrepreneurial or action oriented by nature. > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > - > cosmologer > > Saturday, June 07, 2008 5:08 PM > Re: victim or perpetrator > > > My dear , > > Thank you for the information. > > In this case, the indicators of 'action' are then as follows for the > following ascendants with non-MT signs in the 3rd house: > > Aries: 1st lord MARS > Virgo: 1st lord MERCURY > Scorpio: 10th lord SUN > Capricorn: 10th lord VENUS > Pisces: 10th lord JUPITER > > For the other ascendants, some also have MT signs in 1st or 10th > houses. Would these ascendants have the houses indicated as > additional or secondary indicators of action? In this case, > > Taurus: 10th lord SATURN (3rd lord being MOON) > Cancer: 10th lord MARS (3rd lord being MERCURY) > Leo: 1st lord SUN (3rd lord being VENUS) > Libra: 1st lord VENUS and 10th lord MOON (3rd lord being JUPITER) > Sagittarius: 1st lord JUPITER and 10th lord MERCURY (3rd lord being > SATURN) > Aquarius: 1st lord SATURN (3rd lord being MARS) > > In this case, would ascendants like Libra and Sagittarius, with three > such indicators, tend to be more entrepreneurial or action oriented > by nature? > > Best wishes, > > Thor > , " SIHA " <vkchoudhry@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello my dear Thor, > > > > Besides the third house, the other houses of action are the > ascendant and the tenth house. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > Cosmologer > > > > Saturday, June 07, 2008 4:23 PM > > Re: victim or perpetrator > > > > > > Dear , > > Thank you for the valued insights. > > I have one question related to this. > > For the following ascendants there is no MT sign in the 3rd house: > > Aries (Gemini in 3rd house) > > Virgo (Scorpio...) > > Scorpio (Capricorn...) > > Capricorn (Pisces...) > > Pisces (Taurus...) > > > > What planet(s) could be considerd indicator of 'taking action' > for these ascendants? > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > > SIHA <vkchoudhry@> > > > > Saturday, June 7, 2008 4:02:58 AM > > Re: victim or perpetrator > > > > Yes, Lila. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > - > > lila@ > > > > Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:16 AM > > Re: victim or perpetrator > > > > My Dear Professor, > > > > Would you please comment on my deductions below? > > > > 1) If the sixth lord is in the third house, or aspecting the > lord of the > > third house, then one can become a perp? > > > > 2) If Rahu occupies the same house as the lord of 3H (which I > am assuming > > is the house of actions) then one can also become a perp? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Lila > > > > ==============Original message text=============== > > On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 21:45:51 CDT " SIHA " wrote: > > > > Hello Lila, > > > > When the lord of the sixth is placed in the 12H, one is victim > and when > > the sixth lord is associated with house of actions in > conjunction with > > Rahu, then one becomes perpetrator. > > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > - > > lila@ > > > > Friday, June 06, 2008 10:15 PM > > victim or perpetrator > > > > My Dear Professor, > > > > We have been told of the planetary indications of deceipt, > theft, > > violence, etc. How are we able to determine if the person is > victim or > > perpetrator? > > > > Just an example: I have 6L in 12H. This means theft by > deception. This > > January I had someone convicted (ten years, suspended) who > committed > > theft using hidden practices. If you look at our two charts, > how do we > > know I was the victim and she the perpetrator, and not the > other way around? > > > > The end of the story is: When I see a deceipt, theft, or > violence > > configuration in a chart, how do I know if they are going to be > a victim > > or a perp? > > > > Thank you. > > > > Lila > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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