Guest guest Posted June 15, 2008 Report Share Posted June 15, 2008 Thanks Professor. This was helpful. In Obama's new chart (7:24 pm time), on the election day (4th Nov), transit Ketu will be exactly on his natal Sun (8th Lord in 7th). There is no way, with this chart, he can be elected President this year. Somebody call DNC to bring Hillary back, if they want to win the White House. NS SAMVA , " SIHA " <vkchoudhry wrote: Hello DB, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - devibhakt SAMVA Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:30 PM Re: New birth information for John McCain In this chart, Mars is debilitated but in 10th house. Jupiter as 3L is debilitated in D9 thus reducing its strength. If 3rd house is for effort and success, can his Jupiter still give success? JUP IS A SUN LIKE PLANET, PLACED IN ANOTHER SUN LIKE HOUSE AND IS CLOSE TO MEP. THESE FACTORS MAKE UP FOR THE LOSS OF STRENGTH DUE TO DEBILITATION IN NAVAMSA. MARS IS CLOSED ASPECTED BY JUPITER. I think it will be a good learning for all, if professor can do a quick reading on McCain's chart. PLANETARY STRENGTHS ARE BEFORE YOU. STRENGTH OF THE SUN AND MOON AND CLOSE ASPECT OF SATURN TO VENUS MAKE UP TO A GOOD EXTENT THE WEAKNESS OF VENUS. NO PLANET IN 6TH AND 8TH HOUSES. 12TH LORD IN 12TH HOUSE. NO CLOSE AFFLICTION IN THE NATAL CHART - ALL SPEAK WELL FOR THE CHART. One good thing that I can see in this chart is that both Sun and Moon are strong. They may give him highest position. Is that correct? IT IS LIKELY AND YOU ARE RIGHT. Best, DB SAMVA , " SIHA " <vkchoudhry@> wrote: > > Hello my dear Thor, > > The chart with new birth information looks to be responsive for his personality and achievements, so far. It strongly indicates the possibility of his becoming next US President. > > Best wishes. > > > > > > - > Cosmologer > SAMVA > Saturday, June 14, 2008 5:48 PM > Re: New birth information for John McCain > > > > Dear and list members, > > > > A month ago, I shared on this list new birth information about John McCain, giving 24° 27' Libra rising. This chart looks quite reasonable for him and could improve his prospects considerably over the earlier Virgo rising chart when it comes to the Presidential election this fall. > > > > The current Saturn-Jupiter period would be very helpful, but it is replaced by Mercury-Mercury period on October 26, 2008. The change in period suggests a major shift in his life in coming years. On one side he could be having to deal with a lot of 12th house issues, including foreign policy. On the other hand, it could also be consistent with him entering retirement, given that he will then be 68 years old. > > > > The transits this summer would be challenging, especially the nodal station on his 10th and 4th houses. The transits in early September 2008 are also a curious mix of negative and positive transits - with the latter likely more powerful due to the operating period, likely indicating some climax. In early November 2008 the transits are stunningly good, which would be helpful to him as a candidate standing for general election. > > > > It would be very helpful, dear , to have your guidance on the assessment of this chart, including what it suggests about his chances to be elected President in the fall. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Thor > > > > > > Cosmologer <cosmologer@> > samva > Saturday, May 10, 2008 10:21:10 AM > New birth information for John McCain > > > Dear friends, > > There is new information concerning John McCain's birth time. > > Hi ninety year old+ mother says he was born at 11:00 on a Saturday (actually, it was a Friday). > http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/05/mccain_johnnys_mom_ web_video.html > > The 24 Libra rising chart is far better than the earlier Virgo rising chart. However, in October 2008, the chart shifts from a very good major period of 9th lord Saturn on the MEP of the 5th house and the sub period of 3rd lord Jupiter on the MEP of the 2nd house to a less advantageous major- and sub-period of 12th lord Mercury in Virgo in the 12th house. > > Best wishes, > > Thor > > > John McCain > > Aug 29, 1936 11:00 AM +05:00 EST > > Cocosola , Panama Longitude: 79W56 Latitude: 8N58 > > Lahiri Ayanamsha: 22:58 Current Period: SA/JU/MA > > > > Planet Deg Sign Speed SA Nakshatra Lord > > ================================================ > > Asc 24:27 Lib Vishakha Ju > > Sun 13:08 Leo +00:57:59 ST Magha Ke > > Moon 05:12 Cap +13:37:04 ST U.Shadya Su > > Mars 19:23 Can +00:38:14 WK Aslesha Me > > Merc 09:23 Vir +01:11:43 FM U.Phalguni Su > > Jupt 22:07 Sco +00:03:17 WK Jyeshtha Me > > Ven 29:56 Leo +01:13:59 WK U.Phalguni Su > > Sat R 27:09 Aqu -00:04:23 WK P.Bhadra Ju > > Rahu 08:29 Sag -00:03:54 FM Mula Ke > > Ketu 08:29 Gem -00:03:54 FM Ardra Ra > > > > True Node 365.25 Day Year - Internet Time: 708 beats > > Day: Saturday Sunrise : 6:14 AM > > Tithi: Shukla Dvadashi > > Yoga Pt: 21:40 Le Yogi:Ve AviYogi:Ju Dup Yogi: Su > > Dagha Rashis: Lib Cap > > > > Sytems Approach Analysis > > ======================== > > Sun Good Placement, > > Moon Good Placement, Bright, > > Mars Good Placement, Debilitated, > > Mercury Bad Placement, Debilitated in Navamsha, > > Jupiter Good Placement, Debilitated in Navamsha, > > Venus Good Placement, In Old Age: 98%, > > Saturn Good Placement, In Old Age: 43%, > > Rahu Good Placement, Weak Dispositor, > > Ketu Good Placement, > > > > Rashi Chart > > ******************************************************* > > ** 8 * * 6 ** > > *9 * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * JU 22:07* ME 09:23* * > > * * * * * SU 13:08* > > *RA 08:29 * 7 AS 24:27 * 5 VE 29:56* > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > ** * * ** > > *10 MO 05:12 * 4 MA 19:23 * > > ** * * ** > > *11* * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > *SAR27:09 * 1 * 3 KE 08:29* > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > ** 12 * * 2 ** > > ******************************************************* > > > > Navamsha > > ******************************************************* > > ** 3 * * 1 ** > > *4 * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * SAR * * * * > > * RA * * * * > > * * * * * * > > *SU * 2 AS * 12 ME * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > ** * * ** > > *5 * 11 MO * > > ** * * ** > > *6 * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * * * * * > > * * 8 * 10 JU * > > * * * * * * > > * * * MA * * > > * * * * VE * * > > * * * * KE * * > > * * * * * * > > ** 7 * * 9 ** > > ******************************************************* > > > > Vimshottari Dasha/Buktis > > ======================== > > Su/Me 14.8.1936 > > Su/Ke 20.6.1937 > > Su/Ve 26.10.1937 > > Mo/Mo 27.10.1938 > > Mo/Ma 27.8.1939 > > Mo/Ra 27.3.1940 > > Mo/Ju 26.9.1941 > > Mo/Sa 26.1.1943 > > Mo/Me 26.8.1944 > > Mo/Ke 26.1.1946 > > Mo/Ve 27.8.1946 > > Mo/Su 26.4.1948 > > Ma/Ma 26.10.1948 > > Ma/Ra 24.3.1949 > > Ma/Ju 12.4.1950 > > Ma/Sa 19.3.1951 > > Ma/Me 26.4.1952 > > Ma/Ke 24.4.1953 > > Ma/Ve 20.9.1953 > > Ma/Su 20.11.1954 > > Ma/Mo 28.3.1955 > > Ra/Ra 27.10.1955 > > Ra/Ju 9.7.1958 > > Ra/Sa 2.12.1960 > > Ra/Me 8.10.1963 > > Ra/Ke 27.4.1966 > > Ra/Ve 15.5.1967 > > Ra/Su 15.5.1970 > > Ra/Mo 9.4.1971 > > Ra/Ma 8.10.1972 > > Ju/Ju 26.10.1973 > > Ju/Sa 14.12.1975 > > Ju/Me 27.6.1978 > > Ju/Ke 2.10.1980 > > Ju/Ve 8.9.1981 > > Ju/Su 9.5.1984 > > Ju/Mo 25.2.1985 > > Ju/Ma 27.6.1986 > > Ju/Ra 3.6.1987 > > Sa/Sa 26.10.1989 > > Sa/Me 29.10.1992 > > Sa/Ke 9.7.1995 > > Sa/Ve 17.8.1996 > > Sa/Su 18.10.1999 > > Sa/Mo 29.9.2000 > > Sa/Ma 30.4.2002 > > Sa/Ra 9.6.2003 > > Sa/Ju 15.4.2006 > > Me/Me 26.10.2008 > > Me/Ke 25.3.2011 > > Me/Ve 21.3.2012 > > Me/Su 20.1.2015 > > Me/Mo 26.11.2015 > > Me/Ma 27.4.2017 > > Me/Ra 24.4.2018 > > Me/Ju 10.11.2020 > > Me/Sa 16.2.2023 > > Ke/Ke 26.10.2025 > > Ke/Ve 24.3.2026 > > Ke/Su 25.5.2027 > > Ke/Mo 29.9.2027 > > Ke/Ma 29.4.2028 > > Ke/Ra 26.9.2028 > > Ke/Ju 14.10.2029 > > Ke/Sa 20.9.2030 > > Ke/Me 30.10.2031 > > Ve/Ve 26.10.2032 > > Ve/Su 26.2.2036 > > Ve/Mo 25.2.2037 > > Ve/Ma 27.10.2038 > > Ve/Ra 27.12.2039 > > Ve/Ju 26.12.2042 > > Ve/Sa 26.8.2045 > > Ve/Me 26.10.2048 > > Ve/Ke 27.8.2051 > > Hi mother says he was born at 11:00 on a Saturday (it was Friday). > > > http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video_log/2008/05/mccain_johnnys_mom_ web_video.html > > > > > ------------------------- ---------- > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. 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