Guest guest Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Dear Professor, 1. Let say that the dispositor of a planet has 50% strength natally. So that means that any otherwise strong planet placed in its sign will have 50% strength? 2. What would be the strength of a combust planet? 3. What would be the strength of a combust, debilitated, badly placed planet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Hello Rainysky, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - rainysky_33 Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:39 AM Strength Recent Activity a.. 10New Members Visit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Curves on Share & discuss Curves, fitness and weight loss. .Dear Professor, 1. Let say that the dispositor of a planet has 50% strength natally. So that means that any otherwise strong planet placed in its sign will have 50% strength? RIGHT. 2. What would be the strength of a combust planet? 50% 3. What would be the strength of a combust, debilitated, badly placed planet? 10% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Dear Professor, Regarding the combust planet strength below, this refers to both the transit and natal situation? You've said that the FB Sun conjunct another FB, gives exponential rise to that planet in the rashi, but is vulnerable to the transit weakness and affliction. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:33 PM Re: Strength Hello Rainysky, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - rainysky_33 Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:39 AM Strength Recent Activity a.. 10New Members Visit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Curves on Share & discuss Curves, fitness and weight loss. .Dear Professor, 1. Let say that the dispositor of a planet has 50% strength natally. So that means that any otherwise strong planet placed in its sign will have 50% strength? RIGHT. 2. What would be the strength of a combust planet? 50% 3. What would be the strength of a combust, debilitated, badly placed planet? 10% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Hello dear Vyas, A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet. Where the Sun is a functional benefic and it causes combustion to another planet, the planet will become 50% weak for the purpose of transit affliction. A combust planet in its sign of debilitation and placed in a malefic house will have only 10% power. This refers to both natal and transit situations. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:45 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Regarding the combust planet strength below, this refers to both the transit and natal situation? You've said that the FB Sun conjunct another FB, gives exponential rise to that planet in the rashi, but is vulnerable to the transit weakness and affliction. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:33 PM Re: Strength Hello Rainysky, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - rainysky_33 Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:39 AM Strength Recent Activity a.. 10New Members Visit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Curves on Share & discuss Curves, fitness and weight loss. .Dear Professor, 1. Let say that the dispositor of a planet has 50% strength natally. So that means that any otherwise strong planet placed in its sign will have 50% strength? RIGHT. 2. What would be the strength of a combust planet? 50% 3. What would be the strength of a combust, debilitated, badly placed planet? 10% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Dear Professor, Thank you for your explanation. I've got it, but let's use an example for the benefit of all, using Leo Asc with the FBs Sun and Mercury exactly conjunct in the 11H at 15 degrees, and the Sun is fully strong. Please confirm. The understanding for this Mercury is that it will PROMOTE its significations 125% in life, but will be considered to have only 50% strength to PROTECT its significations during the transit affliction. Also, we consider this Sun to have 125% strength being conjunct the LO2, although combust, right? Additionally, " A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet, " so we only bother calculating weakness due to combustion within the 5 degree orb? One more question - is there any quantification for the strength gained by a FB planet if exactly on the MEP? I suspect 25% gain from studying financial markets. I would like to thank you for quantifying and explaning these situations, it is very useful especially for those of us who need to have the mathematical side of the brain satiated. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:56 AM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet. Where the Sun is a functional benefic and it causes combustion to another planet, the planet will become 50% weak for the purpose of transit affliction. A combust planet in its sign of debilitation and placed in a malefic house will have only 10% power. This refers to both natal and transit situations. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:45 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Regarding the combust planet strength below, this refers to both the transit and natal situation? You've said that the FB Sun conjunct another FB, gives exponential rise to that planet in the rashi, but is vulnerable to the transit weakness and affliction. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:33 PM Re: Strength Hello Rainysky, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - rainysky_33 Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:39 AM Strength Recent Activity a.. 10New Members Visit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Curves on Share & discuss Curves, fitness and weight loss. .Dear Professor, 1. Let say that the dispositor of a planet has 50% strength natally. So that means that any otherwise strong planet placed in its sign will have 50% strength? RIGHT. 2. What would be the strength of a combust planet? 50% 3. What would be the strength of a combust, debilitated, badly placed planet? 10% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Hello dear Vyas, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:09 PM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thank you for your explanation. I've got it, but let's use an example for the benefit of all, using Leo Asc with the FBs Sun and Mercury exactly conjunct in the 11H at 15 degrees, and the Sun is fully strong. Please confirm. OK. The understanding for this Mercury is that it will PROMOTE its significations 125% in life, but will be considered to have only 50% strength to PROTECT its significations during the transit affliction. RIGHT. Also, we consider this Sun to have 125% strength being conjunct the LO2, although combust, right? RIGHT. Additionally, " A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet, " so we only bother calculating weakness due to combustion within the 5 degree orb? YES, IN THIS CASE. One more question - is there any quantification for the strength gained by a FB planet if exactly on the MEP? I suspect 25% gain from studying financial markets. ITS INFLUENCE IS MORE. I would like to thank you for quantifying and explaning these situations, it is very useful especially for those of us who need to have the mathematical side of the brain satiated. OK. WELCOME. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:56 AM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet. Where the Sun is a functional benefic and it causes combustion to another planet, the planet will become 50% weak for the purpose of transit affliction. A combust planet in its sign of debilitation and placed in a malefic house will have only 10% power. This refers to both natal and transit situations. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:45 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Regarding the combust planet strength below, this refers to both the transit and natal situation? You've said that the FB Sun conjunct another FB, gives exponential rise to that planet in the rashi, but is vulnerable to the transit weakness and affliction. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:33 PM Re: Strength Hello Rainysky, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - rainysky_33 Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:39 AM Strength Recent Activity a.. 10New Members Visit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Curves on Share & discuss Curves, fitness and weight loss. .Dear Professor, 1. Let say that the dispositor of a planet has 50% strength natally. So that means that any otherwise strong planet placed in its sign will have 50% strength? RIGHT. 2. What would be the strength of a combust planet? 50% 3. What would be the strength of a combust, debilitated, badly placed planet? 10% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2008 Report Share Posted July 6, 2008 Dear Professor, Thank you very much for your response. Another question - below you are referring to exactly afflicted MTH houses and closely afflicted non-MTH houses, right? " A weak planet placed in an afflicted house will lose strength to the extent of 75%. An otherwise strong planet placed in an afflicted house will lose strength to the extent of 50%. Such a planet will give good results in the first place and will cause setbacks later " Also, what about the case of a planet in a DH and debilitated in Navamsa? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:22 AM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:09 PM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thank you for your explanation. I've got it, but let's use an example for the benefit of all, using Leo Asc with the FBs Sun and Mercury exactly conjunct in the 11H at 15 degrees, and the Sun is fully strong. Please confirm. OK. The understanding for this Mercury is that it will PROMOTE its significations 125% in life, but will be considered to have only 50% strength to PROTECT its significations during the transit affliction. RIGHT. Also, we consider this Sun to have 125% strength being conjunct the LO2, although combust, right? RIGHT. Additionally, " A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet, " so we only bother calculating weakness due to combustion within the 5 degree orb? YES, IN THIS CASE. One more question - is there any quantification for the strength gained by a FB planet if exactly on the MEP? I suspect 25% gain from studying financial markets. ITS INFLUENCE IS MORE. I would like to thank you for quantifying and explaning these situations, it is very useful especially for those of us who need to have the mathematical side of the brain satiated. OK. WELCOME. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:56 AM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet. Where the Sun is a functional benefic and it causes combustion to another planet, the planet will become 50% weak for the purpose of transit affliction. A combust planet in its sign of debilitation and placed in a malefic house will have only 10% power. This refers to both natal and transit situations. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:45 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Regarding the combust planet strength below, this refers to both the transit and natal situation? You've said that the FB Sun conjunct another FB, gives exponential rise to that planet in the rashi, but is vulnerable to the transit weakness and affliction. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:33 PM Re: Strength Hello Rainysky, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - rainysky_33 Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:39 AM Strength Recent Activity a.. 10New Members Visit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Curves on Share & discuss Curves, fitness and weight loss. .Dear Professor, 1. Let say that the dispositor of a planet has 50% strength natally. So that means that any otherwise strong planet placed in its sign will have 50% strength? RIGHT. 2. What would be the strength of a combust planet? 50% 3. What would be the strength of a combust, debilitated, badly placed planet? 10% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2008 Report Share Posted July 7, 2008 Hello dear Vyas, In the case of planet in the natal chart placed in a house whose lord is debilitated, the principle of dispositor would be applicable. Little significance in the case of D-IX where a planet is placed in the MT sign house of a debilitated house. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Monday, July 07, 2008 1:47 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thank you very much for your response. Another question - below you are referring to exactly afflicted MTH houses and closely afflicted non-MTH houses, right? " A weak planet placed in an afflicted house will lose strength to the extent of 75%. An otherwise strong planet placed in an afflicted house will lose strength to the extent of 50%. Such a planet will give good results in the first place and will cause setbacks later " Also, what about the case of a planet in a DH and debilitated in Navamsa? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:22 AM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:09 PM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thank you for your explanation. I've got it, but let's use an example for the benefit of all, using Leo Asc with the FBs Sun and Mercury exactly conjunct in the 11H at 15 degrees, and the Sun is fully strong. Please confirm. OK. The understanding for this Mercury is that it will PROMOTE its significations 125% in life, but will be considered to have only 50% strength to PROTECT its significations during the transit affliction. RIGHT. Also, we consider this Sun to have 125% strength being conjunct the LO2, although combust, right? RIGHT. Additionally, " A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet, " so we only bother calculating weakness due to combustion within the 5 degree orb? YES, IN THIS CASE. One more question - is there any quantification for the strength gained by a FB planet if exactly on the MEP? I suspect 25% gain from studying financial markets. ITS INFLUENCE IS MORE. I would like to thank you for quantifying and explaning these situations, it is very useful especially for those of us who need to have the mathematical side of the brain satiated. OK. WELCOME. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:56 AM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet. Where the Sun is a functional benefic and it causes combustion to another planet, the planet will become 50% weak for the purpose of transit affliction. A combust planet in its sign of debilitation and placed in a malefic house will have only 10% power. This refers to both natal and transit situations. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:45 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Regarding the combust planet strength below, this refers to both the transit and natal situation? You've said that the FB Sun conjunct another FB, gives exponential rise to that planet in the rashi, but is vulnerable to the transit weakness and affliction. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:33 PM Re: Strength Hello Rainysky, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - rainysky_33 Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:39 AM Strength Recent Activity a.. 10New Members Visit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Curves on Share & discuss Curves, fitness and weight loss. .Dear Professor, 1. Let say that the dispositor of a planet has 50% strength natally. So that means that any otherwise strong planet placed in its sign will have 50% strength? RIGHT. 2. What would be the strength of a combust planet? 50% 3. What would be the strength of a combust, debilitated, badly placed planet? 10% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Dear Professor, Thanks Professor. I don't think I made my second question clear, I'll try again. When a planet is placed in a DH and is also debilitated in navamsa, what % strength loss will occur? It would have to be less than 75 and greater than 50 I imagine. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:58 PM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, In the case of planet in the natal chart placed in a house whose lord is debilitated, the principle of dispositor would be applicable. Little significance in the case of D-IX where a planet is placed in the MT sign house of a debilitated house. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Monday, July 07, 2008 1:47 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thank you very much for your response. Another question - below you are referring to exactly afflicted MTH houses and closely afflicted non-MTH houses, right? " A weak planet placed in an afflicted house will lose strength to the extent of 75%. An otherwise strong planet placed in an afflicted house will lose strength to the extent of 50%. Such a planet will give good results in the first place and will cause setbacks later " Also, what about the case of a planet in a DH and debilitated in Navamsa? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:22 AM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:09 PM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thank you for your explanation. I've got it, but let's use an example for the benefit of all, using Leo Asc with the FBs Sun and Mercury exactly conjunct in the 11H at 15 degrees, and the Sun is fully strong. Please confirm. OK. The understanding for this Mercury is that it will PROMOTE its significations 125% in life, but will be considered to have only 50% strength to PROTECT its significations during the transit affliction. RIGHT. Also, we consider this Sun to have 125% strength being conjunct the LO2, although combust, right? RIGHT. Additionally, " A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet, " so we only bother calculating weakness due to combustion within the 5 degree orb? YES, IN THIS CASE. One more question - is there any quantification for the strength gained by a FB planet if exactly on the MEP? I suspect 25% gain from studying financial markets. ITS INFLUENCE IS MORE. I would like to thank you for quantifying and explaning these situations, it is very useful especially for those of us who need to have the mathematical side of the brain satiated. OK. WELCOME. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:56 AM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet. Where the Sun is a functional benefic and it causes combustion to another planet, the planet will become 50% weak for the purpose of transit affliction. A combust planet in its sign of debilitation and placed in a malefic house will have only 10% power. This refers to both natal and transit situations. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:45 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Regarding the combust planet strength below, this refers to both the transit and natal situation? You've said that the FB Sun conjunct another FB, gives exponential rise to that planet in the rashi, but is vulnerable to the transit weakness and affliction. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:33 PM Re: Strength Hello Rainysky, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - rainysky_33 Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:39 AM Strength Recent Activity a.. 10New Members Visit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Curves on Share & discuss Curves, fitness and weight loss. .Dear Professor, 1. Let say that the dispositor of a planet has 50% strength natally. So that means that any otherwise strong planet placed in its sign will have 50% strength? RIGHT. 2. What would be the strength of a combust planet? 50% 3. What would be the strength of a combust, debilitated, badly placed planet? 10% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Hello dear Vyas, When planets are placed in their signs of debilitation in birth chart and navamsa both, they lose strength by 75%. Best wishes. www.YourNetAstrologer.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). Phones: 2219240 (STD 0124, ISD code 91 124) Mobile phone: 9811016333 - Vyas Munidas Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:48 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thanks Professor. I don't think I made my second question clear, I'll try again. When a planet is placed in a DH and is also debilitated in navamsa, what % strength loss will occur? It would have to be less than 75 and greater than 50 I imagine. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:58 PM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, In the case of planet in the natal chart placed in a house whose lord is debilitated, the principle of dispositor would be applicable. Little significance in the case of D-IX where a planet is placed in the MT sign house of a debilitated house. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Monday, July 07, 2008 1:47 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thank you very much for your response. Another question - below you are referring to exactly afflicted MTH houses and closely afflicted non-MTH houses, right? " A weak planet placed in an afflicted house will lose strength to the extent of 75%. An otherwise strong planet placed in an afflicted house will lose strength to the extent of 50%. Such a planet will give good results in the first place and will cause setbacks later " Also, what about the case of a planet in a DH and debilitated in Navamsa? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:22 AM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:09 PM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thank you for your explanation. I've got it, but let's use an example for the benefit of all, using Leo Asc with the FBs Sun and Mercury exactly conjunct in the 11H at 15 degrees, and the Sun is fully strong. Please confirm. OK. The understanding for this Mercury is that it will PROMOTE its significations 125% in life, but will be considered to have only 50% strength to PROTECT its significations during the transit affliction. RIGHT. Also, we consider this Sun to have 125% strength being conjunct the LO2, although combust, right? RIGHT. Additionally, " A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet, " so we only bother calculating weakness due to combustion within the 5 degree orb? YES, IN THIS CASE. One more question - is there any quantification for the strength gained by a FB planet if exactly on the MEP? I suspect 25% gain from studying financial markets. ITS INFLUENCE IS MORE. I would like to thank you for quantifying and explaning these situations, it is very useful especially for those of us who need to have the mathematical side of the brain satiated. OK. WELCOME. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:56 AM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet. Where the Sun is a functional benefic and it causes combustion to another planet, the planet will become 50% weak for the purpose of transit affliction. A combust planet in its sign of debilitation and placed in a malefic house will have only 10% power. This refers to both natal and transit situations. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:45 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Regarding the combust planet strength below, this refers to both the transit and natal situation? You've said that the FB Sun conjunct another FB, gives exponential rise to that planet in the rashi, but is vulnerable to the transit weakness and affliction. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:33 PM Re: Strength Hello Rainysky, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - rainysky_33 Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:39 AM Strength Recent Activity a.. 10New Members Visit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Curves on Share & discuss Curves, fitness and weight loss. .Dear Professor, 1. Let say that the dispositor of a planet has 50% strength natally. So that means that any otherwise strong planet placed in its sign will have 50% strength? RIGHT. 2. What would be the strength of a combust planet? 50% 3. What would be the strength of a combust, debilitated, badly placed planet? 10% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Dear Professor, My question was: if the planet is both a) badly placed and b) debilitated in navamsa... I've catalouged all the conditions so far and this query above refers to the last condition below: In SLH/L +25% In Leo +25% Debilitated -50% Badly placed -50% Closely combust (FM Sun) up to -75% Closely conjunct (FB Sun) up to +25% (Can PROMOTE in life) Closely combust (FB Sun) up to -50% (Cannot PROTECT in transit affliction) D9 Debilitation -25% Combust, Debilitated, and in DH up to -90% Debilitated and in DH -75% Weak and in afflicted H -75% Strong and in afflicted H -50% Closely afflicted and weak up to -75% Closely afflicted, but strong up to -50% D9 Debilitated and in DH ????????? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Monday, July 07, 2008 10:55 PM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, When planets are placed in their signs of debilitation in birth chart and navamsa both, they lose strength by 75%. Best wishes. www.YourNetAstrologer.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). Phones: 2219240 (STD 0124, ISD code 91 124) Mobile phone: 9811016333 - Vyas Munidas Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:48 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thanks Professor. I don't think I made my second question clear, I'll try again. When a planet is placed in a DH and is also debilitated in navamsa, what % strength loss will occur? It would have to be less than 75 and greater than 50 I imagine. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:58 PM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, In the case of planet in the natal chart placed in a house whose lord is debilitated, the principle of dispositor would be applicable. Little significance in the case of D-IX where a planet is placed in the MT sign house of a debilitated house. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Monday, July 07, 2008 1:47 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thank you very much for your response. Another question - below you are referring to exactly afflicted MTH houses and closely afflicted non-MTH houses, right? " A weak planet placed in an afflicted house will lose strength to the extent of 75%. An otherwise strong planet placed in an afflicted house will lose strength to the extent of 50%. Such a planet will give good results in the first place and will cause setbacks later " Also, what about the case of a planet in a DH and debilitated in Navamsa? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:22 AM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:09 PM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thank you for your explanation. I've got it, but let's use an example for the benefit of all, using Leo Asc with the FBs Sun and Mercury exactly conjunct in the 11H at 15 degrees, and the Sun is fully strong. Please confirm. OK. The understanding for this Mercury is that it will PROMOTE its significations 125% in life, but will be considered to have only 50% strength to PROTECT its significations during the transit affliction. RIGHT. Also, we consider this Sun to have 125% strength being conjunct the LO2, although combust, right? RIGHT. Additionally, " A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet, " so we only bother calculating weakness due to combustion within the 5 degree orb? YES, IN THIS CASE. One more question - is there any quantification for the strength gained by a FB planet if exactly on the MEP? I suspect 25% gain from studying financial markets. ITS INFLUENCE IS MORE. I would like to thank you for quantifying and explaning these situations, it is very useful especially for those of us who need to have the mathematical side of the brain satiated. OK. WELCOME. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:56 AM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet. Where the Sun is a functional benefic and it causes combustion to another planet, the planet will become 50% weak for the purpose of transit affliction. A combust planet in its sign of debilitation and placed in a malefic house will have only 10% power. This refers to both natal and transit situations. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:45 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Regarding the combust planet strength below, this refers to both the transit and natal situation? You've said that the FB Sun conjunct another FB, gives exponential rise to that planet in the rashi, but is vulnerable to the transit weakness and affliction. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:33 PM Re: Strength Hello Rainysky, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - rainysky_33 Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:39 AM Strength Recent Activity a.. 10New Members Visit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Curves on Share & discuss Curves, fitness and weight loss. .Dear Professor, 1. Let say that the dispositor of a planet has 50% strength natally. So that means that any otherwise strong planet placed in its sign will have 50% strength? RIGHT. 2. What would be the strength of a combust planet? 50% 3. What would be the strength of a combust, debilitated, badly placed planet? 10% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 8, 2008 Report Share Posted July 8, 2008 Hello dear Vyas, OK. By DH you meant dusthana house. When a planet is both a) badly placed and b) debilitated in navamsa it will lose 40% strength of its strength in the rasi chart. Best wishes. www.YourNetAstrologer.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). Phones: 2219240 (STD 0124, ISD code 91 124) Mobile phone: 9811016333 - Vyas Munidas Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:18 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, My question was: if the planet is both a) badly placed and b) debilitated in navamsa... I've catalouged all the conditions so far and this query above refers to the last condition below: In SLH/L +25% In Leo +25% Debilitated -50% Badly placed -50% Closely combust (FM Sun) up to -75% Closely conjunct (FB Sun) up to +25% (Can PROMOTE in life) Closely combust (FB Sun) up to -50% (Cannot PROTECT in transit affliction) D9 Debilitation -25% Combust, Debilitated, and in DH up to -90% Debilitated and in DH -75% Weak and in afflicted H -75% Strong and in afflicted H -50% Closely afflicted and weak up to -75% Closely afflicted, but strong up to -50% D9 Debilitated and in DH ????????? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Monday, July 07, 2008 10:55 PM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, When planets are placed in their signs of debilitation in birth chart and navamsa both, they lose strength by 75%. Best wishes. www.YourNetAstrologer.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). Phones: 2219240 (STD 0124, ISD code 91 124) Mobile phone: 9811016333 - Vyas Munidas Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:48 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thanks Professor. I don't think I made my second question clear, I'll try again. When a planet is placed in a DH and is also debilitated in navamsa, what % strength loss will occur? It would have to be less than 75 and greater than 50 I imagine. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:58 PM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, In the case of planet in the natal chart placed in a house whose lord is debilitated, the principle of dispositor would be applicable. Little significance in the case of D-IX where a planet is placed in the MT sign house of a debilitated house. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Monday, July 07, 2008 1:47 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thank you very much for your response. Another question - below you are referring to exactly afflicted MTH houses and closely afflicted non-MTH houses, right? " A weak planet placed in an afflicted house will lose strength to the extent of 75%. An otherwise strong planet placed in an afflicted house will lose strength to the extent of 50%. Such a planet will give good results in the first place and will cause setbacks later " Also, what about the case of a planet in a DH and debilitated in Navamsa? Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:22 AM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:09 PM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Thank you for your explanation. I've got it, but let's use an example for the benefit of all, using Leo Asc with the FBs Sun and Mercury exactly conjunct in the 11H at 15 degrees, and the Sun is fully strong. Please confirm. OK. The understanding for this Mercury is that it will PROMOTE its significations 125% in life, but will be considered to have only 50% strength to PROTECT its significations during the transit affliction. RIGHT. Also, we consider this Sun to have 125% strength being conjunct the LO2, although combust, right? RIGHT. Additionally, " A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet, " so we only bother calculating weakness due to combustion within the 5 degree orb? YES, IN THIS CASE. One more question - is there any quantification for the strength gained by a FB planet if exactly on the MEP? I suspect 25% gain from studying financial markets. ITS INFLUENCE IS MORE. I would like to thank you for quantifying and explaning these situations, it is very useful especially for those of us who need to have the mathematical side of the brain satiated. OK. WELCOME. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:56 AM Re: Strength Hello dear Vyas, A planet becoming weak due to close combustion will lose strength to the extent of 75% if the Sun is a functional malefic planet. Where the Sun is a functional benefic and it causes combustion to another planet, the planet will become 50% weak for the purpose of transit affliction. A combust planet in its sign of debilitation and placed in a malefic house will have only 10% power. This refers to both natal and transit situations. Best wishes. - Vyas Munidas Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:45 AM Re: Strength Dear Professor, Regarding the combust planet strength below, this refers to both the transit and natal situation? You've said that the FB Sun conjunct another FB, gives exponential rise to that planet in the rashi, but is vulnerable to the transit weakness and affliction. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " SIHA " <vkchoudhry Saturday, July 05, 2008 11:33 PM Re: Strength Hello Rainysky, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. Best wishes. - rainysky_33 Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:39 AM Strength Recent Activity a.. 10New Members Visit Your Group Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice & more. New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Curves on Share & discuss Curves, fitness and weight loss. .Dear Professor, 1. Let say that the dispositor of a planet has 50% strength natally. So that means that any otherwise strong planet placed in its sign will have 50% strength? RIGHT. 2. What would be the strength of a combust planet? 50% 3. What would be the strength of a combust, debilitated, badly placed planet? 10% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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