Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Hello Dear Rajshekhar, Hare Krishna. Thank you for your further querry. Out of the respect for other esteemed members of this forum, as you are aware of this that this forum is meant for learning and discussion of the Systems Approach to Vedic Astrology and its related topics. Any other topic or discussion may not be interested to some of them. Therefore, keeping this in mind, I humbly suggest that kindly read Bhagavad Gita As It Is especially 1972 Edition of the translation done by HDG A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabupada to get all your answers. Further more, I shall be glad to answer your any querry off the list with whatever little knowledge I have. You may write me directly. Once again, thank you very much and I appreciate your interest. Hari BOL. Best wishes and regards.............Amar Puri. , " rajshekhar sharma " <rajshekhar.sharma wrote: > > Dear Amar and all > > Thanks to you too for your kind appreciation. > > Further I wanna have your opinion on the following: > > It may be possible that the Almighty Lord would have been same for all life > on earth. If yes, then The Creater may be having same concern for all people > irrespective of caste, clan and geography. In that case, the Almighty may > have enlightened all clan, caste without any prejudice. And if aforestated > is affirmed by your goodself, I will be able to put some of my thoughts over > the guidance provided by your good self. > > Best of the wishes > > Raj Shekhar > > On 6/27/06, Amar Puri <absolutefinancial wrote: > > > > Dear Rajshekhar, > > > > Hare Krishna. > > > > Thank you for sharing your thoughts which are appreciated. > > > > As we know that the Science of matter and spirit are very nicely > > explained by the Creator Himself Lord Shri Krishna in the Bhagvad > > Gita. All we have to do is as a student to simply follow the foot > > steps of Arjuna as he understood directly from the Master. > > > > One can follow the bonafide instructions coming from the down line in > > the disciplic succession of the Creator Shri Krishna to make ones' > > own life sublime. > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > Hari BOL. > > > > Best regards.............Amar Puri. > > > > <% 40>, " vishwraj " < > > rajshekhar.sharma@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hello to Dear Arun, Vyas, Amar and others. > > > > > > Well, I am really enjoying the discussion on the port. Though we > > > may have different opinions but the goal appears to be the one i.e. > > > gaining appropriate understanding of Spirituality. > > > > > > As per my understanding, when we try to churn out a logical > > > explanation of Spiritual matters, it simply nutralizes the very > > > purpose of Spiritual Science or System or whatever adjective one > > > would like to have. The reasons, as per my understanding, behind > > > this are: > > > > > > The Maya, i.e. the Samsara has been said to be circled within the > > > Mana (emotions), Buddhi (Intelligence) and Sharira (Physical > > body). > > > All human senses are bound to act within the limits of Physical > > > body, Intelligence and Emotions i.e. Mana, Budhhi and Sharira. On > > > the other hand, all our Gods/Avataras and learned, enlightened > > > Gurus, Rishis, Preachers have been found to be able to achieve the > > > Enlightenment only after achieving the ability of feeling their > > > existence beyond the aforesaid limitations i.e. Mana, Buddhi, > > > Sharira. It is because of this ability that they were/are able to > > > foresee the unseen. > > > > > > To make the concept more clear, I would like to add a few lines for > > > your consideration. Just give a thought to it. All the life in > > > this universe exists in a frame of time. It means that it is the > > > line/circle/path of time, in which all kind of life exists. Or it > > > can be said that there can not be a time (Samaya) without life. > > > Both the life and time are inter-connected and can not exist > > > separately. Time can be understood as a path on which the Energy, > > > in the form of Soul, is playing its role in the form of taking > > birth > > > and accepting death. On this path of time, each and every form of > > > life (human, animals and all others) is bound to accept the birth > > > and the death irrespective of the strength and power and > > > intelligence. And this is because of the limitations of Mana, > > > Buddhi and Sharira. The Enlighened Ones including our Gods, Saints > > > were/are able to achieve the ability of feeling their existence in > > > absolute pure form of energy i.e. the Soul. But the very problem > > is > > > that the existence and feelings of the Soul can not be fully > > > understood within the circle of Mana, Buddhi and Sharira. And it > > is > > > because of this reason that despite having enormous > > > knowledge/understanding/feeling of the Spirituality, we fail to > > > convey it in absolute form. The diameter of Soul is much much > > > larger than the physical body (including the Mana and Buddhi) and > > > simply can not depicted on logical or emotional front. It is just > > > like writing something on a very small document (i.e. the Mana, > > > Buddhi and Sharira) with a very large Pen (i.e. the Soul) whose tip > > > of bigger than the whole document. > > > > > > Thanks for your time and patience. > > > > > > > > > Raj Shekhar > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2006 Report Share Posted June 28, 2006 Dear Members , In addition to the one mentioned by Amar ji, one may also read the following. 1. Bhagavad Gita by Eknath Easwaran 2. God Talks with Arjuna: The Bhagavad Gita - Paramahansa Yogananda Thanks and Regards Amit PS:The power of realization resides in the self, no matter how much one may read, without self enquiry, Sat-Chit-Ananda will always elude you. , " Amar Puri " <absolutefinancial wrote: > > Hello Dear Rajshekhar, > > Hare Krishna. > > Thank you for your further querry. > > Out of the respect for other esteemed members of this forum, as you > are aware of this that this forum is meant for learning and > discussion of the Systems Approach to Vedic Astrology and its related > topics. Any other topic or discussion may not be interested to some > of them. Therefore, keeping this in mind, I humbly suggest that > kindly read Bhagavad Gita As It Is especially 1972 Edition of the > translation done by HDG A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Srila Prabupada to > get all your answers. > > Further more, I shall be glad to answer your any querry off the list > with whatever little knowledge I have. You may write me directly. > > Once again, thank you very much and I appreciate your interest. > > Hari BOL. > > Best wishes and regards.............Amar Puri. > > > , " rajshekhar sharma " > <rajshekhar.sharma@> wrote: > > > > Dear Amar and all > > > > Thanks to you too for your kind appreciation. > > > > Further I wanna have your opinion on the following: > > > > It may be possible that the Almighty Lord would have been same for > all life > > on earth. If yes, then The Creater may be having same concern for > all people > > irrespective of caste, clan and geography. In that case, the > Almighty may > > have enlightened all clan, caste without any prejudice. And if > aforestated > > is affirmed by your goodself, I will be able to put some of my > thoughts over > > the guidance provided by your good self. > > > > Best of the wishes > > > > Raj Shekhar > > > > On 6/27/06, Amar Puri <absolutefinancial@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Rajshekhar, > > > > > > Hare Krishna. > > > > > > Thank you for sharing your thoughts which are appreciated. > > > > > > As we know that the Science of matter and spirit are very nicely > > > explained by the Creator Himself Lord Shri Krishna in the Bhagvad > > > Gita. All we have to do is as a student to simply follow the foot > > > steps of Arjuna as he understood directly from the Master. > > > > > > One can follow the bonafide instructions coming from the down > line in > > > the disciplic succession of the Creator Shri Krishna to make ones' > > > own life sublime. > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much. > > > > > > Hari BOL. > > > > > > Best regards.............Amar Puri. > > > > > > <% > 40>, " vishwraj " < > > > rajshekhar.sharma@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello to Dear Arun, Vyas, Amar and others. > > > > > > > > Well, I am really enjoying the discussion on the port. Though we > > > > may have different opinions but the goal appears to be the one > i.e. > > > > gaining appropriate understanding of Spirituality. > > > > > > > > As per my understanding, when we try to churn out a logical > > > > explanation of Spiritual matters, it simply nutralizes the very > > > > purpose of Spiritual Science or System or whatever adjective one > > > > would like to have. The reasons, as per my understanding, behind > > > > this are: > > > > > > > > The Maya, i.e. the Samsara has been said to be circled within > the > > > > Mana (emotions), Buddhi (Intelligence) and Sharira (Physical > > > body). > > > > All human senses are bound to act within the limits of Physical > > > > body, Intelligence and Emotions i.e. Mana, Budhhi and Sharira. > On > > > > the other hand, all our Gods/Avataras and learned, enlightened > > > > Gurus, Rishis, Preachers have been found to be able to achieve > the > > > > Enlightenment only after achieving the ability of feeling their > > > > existence beyond the aforesaid limitations i.e. Mana, Buddhi, > > > > Sharira. It is because of this ability that they were/are able > to > > > > foresee the unseen. > > > > > > > > To make the concept more clear, I would like to add a few lines > for > > > > your consideration. Just give a thought to it. All the life in > > > > this universe exists in a frame of time. It means that it is the > > > > line/circle/path of time, in which all kind of life exists. Or > it > > > > can be said that there can not be a time (Samaya) without life. > > > > Both the life and time are inter-connected and can not exist > > > > separately. Time can be understood as a path on which the > Energy, > > > > in the form of Soul, is playing its role in the form of taking > > > birth > > > > and accepting death. On this path of time, each and every form > of > > > > life (human, animals and all others) is bound to accept the > birth > > > > and the death irrespective of the strength and power and > > > > intelligence. And this is because of the limitations of Mana, > > > > Buddhi and Sharira. The Enlighened Ones including our Gods, > Saints > > > > were/are able to achieve the ability of feeling their existence > in > > > > absolute pure form of energy i.e. the Soul. But the very problem > > > is > > > > that the existence and feelings of the Soul can not be fully > > > > understood within the circle of Mana, Buddhi and Sharira. And it > > > is > > > > because of this reason that despite having enormous > > > > knowledge/understanding/feeling of the Spirituality, we fail to > > > > convey it in absolute form. The diameter of Soul is much much > > > > larger than the physical body (including the Mana and Buddhi) > and > > > > simply can not depicted on logical or emotional front. It is > just > > > > like writing something on a very small document (i.e. the Mana, > > > > Buddhi and Sharira) with a very large Pen (i.e. the Soul) whose > tip > > > > of bigger than the whole document. > > > > > > > > Thanks for your time and patience. > > > > > > > > > > > > Raj Shekhar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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