Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Hello dear list members, Media is projecting victory for Mr. Barack Obama. The people appear to have voted for a change due to the economic policies followed by the Bush administration. Best wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 My Dear Professor, For the next presidential election in 2012, we will be running ME/VE on election day. KE, VE, SU and RA will all be debilitated. The only shining light will be MO in its own sign. But as we all know, that lasts for only 48 hours. I do not think we will elect a good president with 4 debilitated palents. What do you think please? What type of president does this configuration portend? The entire ugga bugga community is salivating at the year 2012 as though it is the answer to our dreams. I am not so sure on this point. Thank you for any insights you may share with us. Lila Hello dear list members, Media is projecting victory for Mr. Barack Obama. The people appear to have voted for a change due to the economic policies followed by the Bush administration. Best wishes. ===========End of original message text=========== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Hello Prof, About 3-4 months back, I had mailed asking if there was a way to arrive at the Asdt of Mr Obama based on the the victory to the Presidential nomination. Now he has won in the Presidential election with a huge margin. I think based on DoB, we know all planetary positions except the Asdt, MEP and the exact deg of Moon. I was wondering if it could be one of Aries and Libra, reason being though Jupiter is debilitated, it aspects 10th House or occupies 10th House with Sun doing the other way i.e occupying or aspecting 10th house. In both cases the Malefics Rahu,Ketu and Mercury do not seem to affect the chart on the whole. Aries has one more thing going for it that 9th house indicating father is weak in the chart. Look forward to your comments sometime on this issue, Regards, Venu On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 SIHA wrote : >Hello dear list members, > >Media is projecting victory for Mr. Barack Obama. The people appear to have >voted for a change due to the economic policies followed by the Bush >administration. > >Best wishes. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2008 Report Share Posted November 5, 2008 Hello dear Venu, Aries and Sagittarius appear to be the two probable candidates for ascendant if the date is correct. But it will take time for identifying the correct ascendant. The developments in the next six months may give the clues. , " Venugopal.V " <venuvenkat wrote: > > Hello Prof, > > About 3-4 months back, I had mailed asking if there was a way to > arrive at the Asdt of Mr Obama based on the the victory > to the Presidential nomination. Now he has won in the Presidential election with a huge margin. I think based on DoB, we know all planetary positions except the Asdt, MEP and the exact deg of Moon. > > I was wondering if it could be one of Aries and Libra, reason being > though Jupiter is debilitated, it aspects 10th House or occupies 10th House with Sun doing the other way i.e occupying or aspecting 10th house. In both cases the Malefics Rahu,Ketu and Mercury do not seem to affect the chart on the whole. Aries has one more thing going for it that 9th house indicating father is weak in the chart. > > Look forward to your comments sometime on this issue, > > Regards, > Venu > > > On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 SIHA wrote : > >Hello dear list members, > > > >Media is projecting victory for Mr. Barack Obama. The people appear to have > >voted for a change due to the economic policies followed by the Bush > >administration. > > > >Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Dear Prof, In identifying his Ascendant, a few things need to be taken as clues, namely, his speech. He is very articulate, has mastery over the language, has effective means of communication and the ability to sway masses with his delivery. In this situation, the 2nd house and Mercury must be strong and well placed and free of malefic aspect. Apart from that he was also a professor of Law, President of the Student body and his ability and recognition in the legal field. Strength/well placed Jupiter must be provide this. Success in politics, inter alia, would require a strong Sun and Saturn (masses), apart from a well placed Jupiter. Regards, Francis de Cruz --- On Wed, 11/5/08, V K CHOUDHRY <vkchoudhry wrote: V K CHOUDHRY <vkchoudhry Re: US Presidential election Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 2:45 PM Hello dear Venu, Aries and Sagittarius appear to be the two probable candidates for ascendant if the date is correct. But it will take time for identifying the correct ascendant. The developments in the next six months may give the clues. @ s.com, " Venugopal.V " <venuvenkat@ ...> wrote: > > Hello Prof, > > About 3-4 months back, I had mailed asking if there was a way to > arrive at the Asdt of Mr Obama based on the the victory > to the Presidential nomination. Now he has won in the Presidential election with a huge margin. I think based on DoB, we know all planetary positions except the Asdt, MEP and the exact deg of Moon. > > I was wondering if it could be one of Aries and Libra, reason being > though Jupiter is debilitated, it aspects 10th House or occupies 10th House with Sun doing the other way i.e occupying or aspecting 10th house. In both cases the Malefics Rahu,Ketu and Mercury do not seem to affect the chart on the whole. Aries has one more thing going for it that 9th house indicating father is weak in the chart. > > Look forward to your comments sometime on this issue, > > Regards, > Venu > > > On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 SIHA wrote : > >Hello dear list members, > > > >Media is projecting victory for Mr. Barack Obama. The people appear to have > >voted for a change due to the economic policies followed by the Bush > >administration. > > > >Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hello my dear Francis, Keeping the points brought out by you in view, it appears to me that his ascendant is likely to be Sagittarius in case the date of birth is correct. In this chart the lord of third house is placed in the second house ruling status. He has been a good communicator. The lord of the asdt is also in the second house and it is in mutual aspect with Mercury ruling the tenth house. Venus ruling the team building is strongly placed in the seventh house and influences the ascendant. It also gives success to the person in dealing with masses. There are five planets which are around eight degrees in the chart. If we have this degree in the ascendant, the planets play pertinent influences. The lord of the eighth house acting as Rahu and influencing the twelfth house also indicates use of intoxicating agents. So, Sagittarius ascendant can be seen for further details. Best wishes. www.YourNetAstrologer.com www.JyotishRemedies121.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). Phones: 2219240 (STD 0124, ISD code 91 124) Mobile phone: 9811016333 - Francis de Cruz Thursday, November 06, 2008 6:31 AM Re: Re: US Presidential election Dear Prof, In identifying his Ascendant, a few things need to be taken as clues, namely, his speech. He is very articulate, has mastery over the language, has effective means of communication and the ability to sway masses with his delivery. In this situation, the 2nd house and Mercury must be strong and well placed and free of malefic aspect. Apart from that he was also a professor of Law, President of the Student body and his ability and recognition in the legal field. Strength/well placed Jupiter must be provide this. Success in politics, inter alia, would require a strong Sun and Saturn (masses), apart from a well placed Jupiter. Regards, Francis de Cruz --- On Wed, 11/5/08, V K CHOUDHRY <vkchoudhry wrote: V K CHOUDHRY <vkchoudhry Re: US Presidential election Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 2:45 PM Hello dear Venu, Aries and Sagittarius appear to be the two probable candidates for ascendant if the date is correct. But it will take time for identifying the correct ascendant. The developments in the next six months may give the clues. @ s.com, " Venugopal.V " <venuvenkat@ ...> wrote: > > Hello Prof, > > About 3-4 months back, I had mailed asking if there was a way to > arrive at the Asdt of Mr Obama based on the the victory > to the Presidential nomination. Now he has won in the Presidential election with a huge margin. I think based on DoB, we know all planetary positions except the Asdt, MEP and the exact deg of Moon. > > I was wondering if it could be one of Aries and Libra, reason being > though Jupiter is debilitated, it aspects 10th House or occupies 10th House with Sun doing the other way i.e occupying or aspecting 10th house. In both cases the Malefics Rahu,Ketu and Mercury do not seem to affect the chart on the whole. Aries has one more thing going for it that 9th house indicating father is weak in the chart. > > Look forward to your comments sometime on this issue, > > Regards, > Venu > > > On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 SIHA wrote : > >Hello dear list members, > > > >Media is projecting victory for Mr. Barack Obama. The people appear to have > >voted for a change due to the economic policies followed by the Bush > >administration. > > > >Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Dear Prof, Perhaps the next thing we have to do is use Sagittarius against past and current events and see if they bring out the results as per the transits, dasa/bukti and predicted event. I am sure many members would like to try doing some research. Regards, francis de Cruz --- On Thu, 11/6/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry Re: Re: US Presidential election Thursday, November 6, 2008, 9:39 AM Hello my dear Francis, Keeping the points brought out by you in view, it appears to me that his ascendant is likely to be Sagittarius in case the date of birth is correct. In this chart the lord of third house is placed in the second house ruling status. He has been a good communicator. The lord of the asdt is also in the second house and it is in mutual aspect with Mercury ruling the tenth house. Venus ruling the team building is strongly placed in the seventh house and influences the ascendant. It also gives success to the person in dealing with masses. There are five planets which are around eight degrees in the chart. If we have this degree in the ascendant, the planets play pertinent influences. The lord of the eighth house acting as Rahu and influencing the twelfth house also indicates use of intoxicating agents. So, Sagittarius ascendant can be seen for further details. Best wishes. www.YourNetAstrolog er.com www.JyotishRemedies 121.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). Phones: 2219240 (STD 0124, ISD code 91 124) Mobile phone: 9811016333 - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Thursday, November 06, 2008 6:31 AM Re: Re: US Presidential election Dear Prof, In identifying his Ascendant, a few things need to be taken as clues, namely, his speech. He is very articulate, has mastery over the language, has effective means of communication and the ability to sway masses with his delivery. In this situation, the 2nd house and Mercury must be strong and well placed and free of malefic aspect. Apart from that he was also a professor of Law, President of the Student body and his ability and recognition in the legal field. Strength/well placed Jupiter must be provide this. Success in politics, inter alia, would require a strong Sun and Saturn (masses), apart from a well placed Jupiter. Regards, Francis de Cruz --- On Wed, 11/5/08, V K CHOUDHRY <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: V K CHOUDHRY <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: US Presidential election @ s.com Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 2:45 PM Hello dear Venu, Aries and Sagittarius appear to be the two probable candidates for ascendant if the date is correct. But it will take time for identifying the correct ascendant. The developments in the next six months may give the clues. @ s.com, " Venugopal.V " <venuvenkat@ ...> wrote: > > Hello Prof, > > About 3-4 months back, I had mailed asking if there was a way to > arrive at the Asdt of Mr Obama based on the the victory > to the Presidential nomination. Now he has won in the Presidential election with a huge margin. I think based on DoB, we know all planetary positions except the Asdt, MEP and the exact deg of Moon. > > I was wondering if it could be one of Aries and Libra, reason being > though Jupiter is debilitated, it aspects 10th House or occupies 10th House with Sun doing the other way i.e occupying or aspecting 10th house. In both cases the Malefics Rahu,Ketu and Mercury do not seem to affect the chart on the whole. Aries has one more thing going for it that 9th house indicating father is weak in the chart. > > Look forward to your comments sometime on this issue, > > Regards, > Venu > > > On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 SIHA wrote : > >Hello dear list members, > > > >Media is projecting victory for Mr. Barack Obama. The people appear to have > >voted for a change due to the economic policies followed by the Bush > >administration. > > > >Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Yes you are right, my dear Francis. Best wishes. - Francis de Cruz Thursday, November 06, 2008 7:44 AM Re: Re: US Presidential election Dear Prof, Perhaps the next thing we have to do is use Sagittarius against past and current events and see if they bring out the results as per the transits, dasa/bukti and predicted event. I am sure many members would like to try doing some research. Regards, francis de Cruz --- On Thu, 11/6/08, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote: SIHA <vkchoudhry Re: Re: US Presidential election Thursday, November 6, 2008, 9:39 AM Hello my dear Francis, Keeping the points brought out by you in view, it appears to me that his ascendant is likely to be Sagittarius in case the date of birth is correct. In this chart the lord of third house is placed in the second house ruling status. He has been a good communicator. The lord of the asdt is also in the second house and it is in mutual aspect with Mercury ruling the tenth house. Venus ruling the team building is strongly placed in the seventh house and influences the ascendant. It also gives success to the person in dealing with masses. There are five planets which are around eight degrees in the chart. If we have this degree in the ascendant, the planets play pertinent influences. The lord of the eighth house acting as Rahu and influencing the twelfth house also indicates use of intoxicating agents. So, Sagittarius ascendant can be seen for further details. Best wishes. www.YourNetAstrolog er.com www.JyotishRemedies 121.com A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). Phones: 2219240 (STD 0124, ISD code 91 124) Mobile phone: 9811016333 - Francis de Cruz @ s.com Thursday, November 06, 2008 6:31 AM Re: Re: US Presidential election Dear Prof, In identifying his Ascendant, a few things need to be taken as clues, namely, his speech. He is very articulate, has mastery over the language, has effective means of communication and the ability to sway masses with his delivery. In this situation, the 2nd house and Mercury must be strong and well placed and free of malefic aspect. Apart from that he was also a professor of Law, President of the Student body and his ability and recognition in the legal field. Strength/well placed Jupiter must be provide this. Success in politics, inter alia, would require a strong Sun and Saturn (masses), apart from a well placed Jupiter. Regards, Francis de Cruz --- On Wed, 11/5/08, V K CHOUDHRY <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: V K CHOUDHRY <vkchoudhry (AT) gmail (DOT) com> Re: US Presidential election @ s.com Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 2:45 PM Hello dear Venu, Aries and Sagittarius appear to be the two probable candidates for ascendant if the date is correct. But it will take time for identifying the correct ascendant. The developments in the next six months may give the clues. @ s.com, " Venugopal.V " <venuvenkat@ ...> wrote: > > Hello Prof, > > About 3-4 months back, I had mailed asking if there was a way to > arrive at the Asdt of Mr Obama based on the the victory > to the Presidential nomination. Now he has won in the Presidential election with a huge margin. I think based on DoB, we know all planetary positions except the Asdt, MEP and the exact deg of Moon. > > I was wondering if it could be one of Aries and Libra, reason being > though Jupiter is debilitated, it aspects 10th House or occupies 10th House with Sun doing the other way i.e occupying or aspecting 10th house. In both cases the Malefics Rahu,Ketu and Mercury do not seem to affect the chart on the whole. Aries has one more thing going for it that 9th house indicating father is weak in the chart. > > Look forward to your comments sometime on this issue, > > Regards, > Venu > > > On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 SIHA wrote : > >Hello dear list members, > > > >Media is projecting victory for Mr. Barack Obama. The people appear to have > >voted for a change due to the economic policies followed by the Bush > >administration. > > > >Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Thanks Prof, Just one more point, from whatever birth certificate of Mr Obama that is available, it is clear that his birth star is Rohini, hence Moon is exalted. On a rough scale it is almost certain that he is running Jupiter/Moon now. So for Sagittarius, the Moon is the MMP and in his case it would amount to MMP placed in evil 6th house. So I feel if the sub period is right, chances are less that he is Sag. One more point is looking back at events in his life, Marriage seems to have taken place in Rahu/Venus. Venus is in Gemini, that rules out Capricorn Asdt for sure, which most people seem to have assumed is the asdt. Again that points to Aries or Sag. Anyways as you have said, we will have to wait for some more time to judge. Regards, Venu On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 V K CHOUDHRY wrote : >Hello dear Venu, > >Aries and Sagittarius appear to be the two probable candidates for >ascendant if the date is correct. But it will take time for >identifying the correct ascendant. The developments in the next six >months may give the clues. > > > > , " Venugopal.V " <venuvenkat wrote: > > > > Hello Prof, > > > > About 3-4 months back, I had mailed asking if there was a way to > > arrive at the Asdt of Mr Obama based on the the victory > > to the Presidential nomination. Now he has won in the Presidential >election with a huge margin. I think based on DoB, we know all >planetary positions except the Asdt, MEP and the exact deg of Moon. > > > > I was wondering if it could be one of Aries and Libra, reason being > > though Jupiter is debilitated, it aspects 10th House or occupies >10th House with Sun doing the other way i.e occupying or aspecting >10th house. In both cases the Malefics Rahu,Ketu and Mercury do not >seem to affect the chart on the whole. Aries has one more thing going >for it that 9th house indicating father is weak in the chart. > > > > Look forward to your comments sometime on this issue, > > > > Regards, > > Venu > > > > > > On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 SIHA wrote : > > >Hello dear list members, > > > > > >Media is projecting victory for Mr. Barack Obama. The people >appear to have > > >voted for a change due to the economic policies followed by the >Bush > > >administration. > > > > > >Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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