Guest guest Posted November 4, 2000 Report Share Posted November 4, 2000 Hare Rama Krishna Namaste All, Does anybody have the article that Sanjay published in the Astrological Magazine on the use of the Dasamsa (D-10) in Feb 1996. Regards, Brendan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2000 Report Share Posted November 4, 2000 Namaste Minu, Welcome to SJVC! What you mentioned is not lesson 1. You probably looked at " Files " in varahamihira archives and clicked on the link above " lesson 1 " think of clicking on " lesson 1 " . Lesson 1 is just below this. This article you mentioned is not a lesson. It is an article I wrote for Astrological Magazine of India. I sent it to Sanjay as a Word file and it looks like Sanjay uploaded it to the Files area after converting it to pdf. The article " Studies in Nkshatramsa Analysis " is not on vedic astrology and varahamihira. It was an article published in 1999 annual issue of AM. Incidentally, it was the first article I wrote for a magazine. I can upload all my published articles to the Files area, but unfortunately I don't have a program that can write pdf. You will learn more about divisional charts slowly. First read the lessons Sanjay posted under " Files " . May Jupiter's light shine on us, Narasimha > HARE RAMA KRISNA > > Namste Gurus !! > > Let me introduce myself in this discussion. My name is > Minu Desa.I have been fortunate enough to be accepted > by Shri Gauranga Dasji. > > I have started following instructions resides in > files > section in varahmihira group. I started with lesson#1 > (Kendradhipati Dosha, Varga Chakras and vishesh Lagna > by guru P.V.R.Narsimha Rao). He made some references > " Studies in Nkshatramsa Analysis " . I couldn't locate > that article in varamihira and vedic astrology > archives.Where can I get this? > > I am trying to understand divisional charts and its > importants. I read an execellent paper on KCD written > by PVR NarsimhaRao. I found nicely tabulated > information about divisional charts and its > importance. > Will that be enough inforation for D charts ? > Please help me out. > > Namaste > > Minu Desai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2000 Report Share Posted November 4, 2000 Narasimha ji, NR> I can upload all my published articles to the Files area, NR> but unfortunately I don't have a program that can write NR> pdf. If you like, you can send me the files and I will convert them into PDF and send back to you. I have the PDF writer program. Namaste, Vahe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2001 Report Share Posted April 7, 2001 Dear Margarita, Yes, this system can be applied to all the 16 charts. In 120 minits aproximaletly about 150 Nadies are their. When any of the chart from 16 charts changes Nadi changes. The time period is ranging from 8 secs to maximum 75 secs aproximatly. For rectifying the Birth time Nadi is most important factor. For delicate questions We must refer to indicated chart. This system is basically for finding the strength of the planets. For Rashi chart we apply it for finding the strengths of the planets for each house. By applying it to all the charts and finding the basic strength only, ( total of A+B+C) and getting culative strength of the planet ( total of all the planets for all the houses, Vertical column) can give hidden strength of the planets. Here we do not consider the effect of sight or 4:10th relationship. For Dual birth the difference of time is very less. In such cases, divisional charts are very use ful. Basic Strength of each div. chart can give the strength for the event indicated by the div. chart. Calculating the Basic strength of all the charts manually is very difficult. Now with the help of this computerised program We can find the strength of each planet in all the div. charts. These charts can be used perticularly for finding the strength of the Karak planets ( lord of A) So we can justify the results. If the karak planet is getting more then 96 points then it can be treated as good. Similarly If we get total for each house by each planets more then 72 points the strength can be treated as good. For Div. Charts we take only the total of A+B+C = Basic strength. Only first portion of the worksheet can be used. krushna > " Lettens " <dmlettens > > > divisional charts >Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:52:05 +0200 > >Respected Krushna, >In a mail last month you wrote a message praising Donna's and Sanjay's work >with the worksheet : their work will be a revolution in Astrology " this >system can be applied to all the 16 div. charts " >What does this exactly mean ? >Do you mean that we can take each divisional chart as a birthchart and >evaluate the points each planet gets.? >Do you compare then the result with the rashi chart? >Or do you mean something else ? >Thanks for answering and best regards >Margarita _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2001 Report Share Posted April 7, 2001 Dear Margarita, Yes, this system can be applied to all the 16 charts. In 120 minits aproximaletly about 150 Nadies are their. When any of the chart from 16 charts changes Nadi changes. The time period is ranging from 8 secs to maximum 75 secs aproximatly. For rectifying the Birth time Nadi is most important factor. For delicate questions We must refer to indicated chart. This system is basically for finding the strength of the planets. For Rashi chart we apply it for finding the strengths of the planets for each house. By applying it to all the charts and finding the basic strength only, ( total of A+B+C) and getting culative strength of the planet ( total of all the planets for all the houses, Vertical column) can give hidden strength of the planets. Here we do not consider the effect of sight or 4:10th relationship. For Dual birth the difference of time is very less. In such cases, divisional charts are very use ful. Basic Strength of each div. chart can give the strength for the event indicated by the div. chart. Calculating the Basic strength of all the charts manually is very difficult. Now with the help of this computerised program We can find the strength of each planet in all the div. charts. These charts can be used perticularly for finding the strength of the Karak planets ( lord of A) So we can justify the results. If the karak planet is getting more then 96 points then it can be treated as good. Similarly If we get total for each house by each planets more then 72 points the strength can be treated as good. For Div. Charts we take only the total of A+B+C = Basic strength. Only first portion of the worksheet can be used. krushna > " Lettens " <dmlettens > > > divisional charts >Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:52:05 +0200 > >Respected Krushna, >In a mail last month you wrote a message praising Donna's and Sanjay's work >with the worksheet : their work will be a revolution in Astrology " this >system can be applied to all the 16 div. charts " >What does this exactly mean ? >Do you mean that we can take each divisional chart as a birthchart and >evaluate the points each planet gets.? >Do you compare then the result with the rashi chart? >Or do you mean something else ? >Thanks for answering and best regards >Margarita _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2001 Report Share Posted April 8, 2001 Respected Krushna, Thank you very much for answering. Yes, I have understood how to use the worksheet for the divisional charts. Only the basic strenght is taken into account and it is mainly used to find the strenght of the karak planet (lord of A) for a given event This is very interesting and I will work on that. Best regards Margarita - krushna kalani J.K. Saturday, April 07, 2001 9:28 PM Re: divisional charts Dear Margarita, Yes, this system can be applied to all the 16 charts. In 120 minits aproximaletly about 150 Nadies are their. When any of the chart from 16 charts changes Nadi changes. The time period is ranging from 8 secs to maximum 75 secs aproximatly. For rectifying the Birth time Nadi is most important factor. For delicate questions We must refer to indicated chart. This system is basically for finding the strength of the planets. For Rashi chart we apply it for finding the strengths of the planets for each house. By applying it to all the charts and finding the basic strength only, ( total of A+B+C) and getting culative strength of the planet ( total of all the planets for all the houses, Vertical column) can give hidden strength of the planets. Here we do not consider the effect of sight or 4:10th relationship. For Dual birth the difference of time is very less. In such cases, divisional charts are very use ful. Basic Strength of each div. chart can give the strength for the event indicated by the div. chart. Calculating the Basic strength of all the charts manually is very difficult. Now with the help of this computerised program We can find the strength of each planet in all the div. charts. These charts can be used perticularly for finding the strength of the Karak planets ( lord of A) So we can justify the results. If the karak planet is getting more then 96 points then it can be treated as good. Similarly If we get total for each house by each planets more then 72 points the strength can be treated as good. For Div. Charts we take only the total of A+B+C = Basic strength. Only first portion of the worksheet can be used.krushna>"Lettens" <dmlettens> >> divisional charts>Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:52:05 +0200>>Respected Krushna,>In a mail last month you wrote a message praising Donna's and Sanjay's work >with the worksheet : their work will be a revolution in Astrology" this >system can be applied to all the 16 div. charts">What does this exactly mean ?>Do you mean that we can take each divisional chart as a birthchart and >evaluate the points each planet gets.?>Do you compare then the result with the rashi chart?>Or do you mean something else ?>Thanks for answering and best regards>Margarita_______________________Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 Hello Ash, Raajashri, Here comes the mail. Happy reading to all Margarita -----Original Message----- krushna kalani J.K. [krushanain] Saturday, April 07, 2001 9:28 PM To: Re: divisional charts Dear Margarita, Yes, this system can be applied to all the 16 charts. In 120 minits aproximaletly about 150 Nadies are their. When any of the chart from 16 charts changes Nadi changes. The time period is ranging from 8 secs to maximum 75 secs aproximatly. For rectifying the Birth time Nadi is most important factor. For delicate questions We must refer to indicated chart. This system is basically for finding the strength of the planets. For Rashi chart we apply it for finding the strengths of the planets for each house. By applying it to all the charts and finding the basic strength only, ( total of A+B+C) and getting culative strength of the planet ( total of all the planets for all the houses, Vertical column) can give hidden strength of the planets. Here we do not consider the effect of sight or 4:10th relationship. For Dual birth the difference of time is very less. In such cases, divisional charts are very use ful. Basic Strength of each div. chart can give the strength for the event indicated by the div. chart. Calculating the Basic strength of all the charts manually is very difficult. Now with the help of this computerised program We can find the strength of each planet in all the div. charts. These charts can be used perticularly for finding the strength of the Karak planets ( lord of A) So we can justify the results. If the karak planet is getting more then 96 points then it can be treated as good. Similarly If we get total for each house by each planets more then 72 points the strength can be treated as good. For Div. Charts we take only the total of A+B+C = Basic strength. Only first portion of the worksheet can be used. krushna > " Lettens " <dmlettens > > > divisional charts >Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:52:05 +0200 > >Respected Krushna, >In a mail last month you wrote a message praising Donna's and Sanjay's work >with the worksheet : their work will be a revolution in Astrology " this >system can be applied to all the 16 div. charts " >What does this exactly mean ? >Do you mean that we can take each divisional chart as a birthchart and >evaluate the points each planet gets.? >Do you compare then the result with the rashi chart? >Or do you mean something else ? >Thanks for answering and best regards >Margarita _______________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2003 Report Share Posted June 3, 2003 Dear Margarita, Awesome, Thanks. This was the email I was refering to. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, Raajashri, > Here comes the mail. Happy reading to all > Margarita > > > krushna kalani J.K. [krushanain@h...] > Saturday, April 07, 2001 9:28 PM > > Re: divisional charts > > Dear Margarita, > Yes, this system can be applied to all the 16 charts. In 120 minits > aproximaletly about 150 Nadies are their. When any of the chart from 16 > charts changes Nadi changes. The time period is ranging from 8 secs to > maximum 75 secs aproximatly. For rectifying the Birth time Nadi is most > important factor. For delicate questions We must refer to indicated chart. > This system is basically for finding the strength of the planets. > For Rashi chart we apply it for finding the strengths of the planets for > each house. > By applying it to all the charts and finding the basic strength > only, ( total of A+B+C) and getting culative strength of the planet ( total > of all the planets for all the houses, Vertical column) can give hidden > strength of the planets. Here we do not consider the effect of sight or > 4:10th relationship. For Dual birth the difference of time is very less. In > such cases, divisional charts are very use ful. Basic Strength of each div. > chart can give the strength for the event indicated by the div. chart. > Calculating the Basic strength of all the charts manually is very > difficult. Now with the help of this computerised program We can find the > strength of each planet in all the div. charts. These charts can be used > perticularly for finding the strength of the Karak planets ( lord of A) So > we can justify the results. > If the karak planet is getting more then 96 points then it can be > treated as good. > Similarly If we get total for each house by each planets more then > 72 points the strength can be treated as good. > For Div. Charts we take only the total of A+B+C = Basic strength. > Only first portion of the worksheet can be used. > krushna > > > > " Lettens " <dmlettens@s...> > > > > > > divisional charts > >Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:52:05 +0200 > > > >Respected Krushna, > >In a mail last month you wrote a message praising Donna's and Sanjay's work > >with the worksheet : their work will be a revolution in Astrology " this > >system can be applied to all the 16 div. charts " > >What does this exactly mean ? > >Do you mean that we can take each divisional chart as a birthchart and > >evaluate the points each planet gets.? > >Do you compare then the result with the rashi chart? > >Or do you mean something else ? > >Thanks for answering and best regards > >Margarita > > ___________________ ____ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 Dear Sanjay, Happy to hear from you. You have made this system very easy. any body can use it. Before your worksheet, it was very difficult to calculate the strength. There was more chances for mistake. Now with the help of Work sheet, This system can be adopted by any body. In my opinion it is you who made this system very easy. Actually before starting group here, I have tried to get the system computerised. I have made much efforts. Taken help of so many persons. But no use. This system came to me from my Guru. It was with me for more then 25 years. I have not taken it more seriously. I was using it. But it was taking at least two to three days to calculate. So I was using it only on some special charts. After a event happened on the specific date, I got more interest in the system. Tried to teach to many persons. Very few had followed it. Sach had followed it very nicely. Then started this on some group, but the responce was very less. Then with the suggestion of Shri Peterji I started it in groups. Here you, Donna, Sandy, Peterji,Margarita, Ash have taken keen interest. You have helped by making computerised program for calculating the strength. ( which I my self used very late due to my ignorance of Computer) It is a good turning point for this system. Further Denis also made a fully automatic worksheet. Now Ash is also making some program ( in process). He followed the system nicely. The divisional charts are also having importance. Navamansha, Dreshkona, Trishansa charts are having their own importance. Other charts are having importance. Perticularly for selecting profession div charts are very important. The basic strength of the planets in div charts should be taken for consideration. Basic strength means total of points of houses A, B, C. If any planet gets more points in all or more charts, it should be considered as stroger. It can give better result. If you can give some of your time to make a program for calculating the strength of all the planets in all the div charts. For this one should feed the Rashi degree of the planets. If such program can be made, It will be a good achivement. Only Navamansha chart is having equal status that of Rashi chart. So one must consider navamansha chart. Realy I a much grateful to you for giving such a good program. Thank you very much krushna , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > I see that the group is very active these days. > > I am sorry I have not been able to participate because of other commitments > but I have been reading the mails. Ash has been extremely prolific and I see > that he has become a staunch follower of the system. :-) > > I have a question about one of the mails regarding divisional charts. > Margarita forwarded a mail from you giving rules for interpreting divisional > chart points recently. My query relates to that. > > You said that we should take points for the karak for the divisional chart > by considering only results from House A. B and C. I was trying to include > this in the worksheet but ran into a few confusions. I hope you can clarify: > > Let us start by an example. Let us say that Aries is the Lagna and we are > looking for the 7th house matters. So lord of 2nd house, Venus, becomes the > functional karak. > > Which divisional charts do we consider? The major 15 charts or less or more? > Do we look at the points of Venus in houses 2, 7 and 11 in all these 15 > houses? Or do we take the basic strength of ashtakavarga points in the SAV > of the divisional house? > > You said that 96 points or more are good. If I take the point total in 15 > subdivisions for ABC, then it is an average of less than 7 points per > division and every planet is likey to get this. If I take only the SAV > points then the average is more than 6 and it is very unlikely that even a > planet like Jupiter would average more than 6 points in all sub divisions. > > I think I have not understood how to calculate the points correctly in > arriving at the totals. Would be grateful for your clarification. > > Kind regards > Sanjay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 Respected Krushnaji, Thank you, but the writing of the program is the easy part. It is just application of logic. The important part is what is the logic to follow and that is the essence of the system anyway. So I am aware that my work is like that of the bricklayer who is just following the instructions of the architect! I need some information to make a program. It is easy to calculate the position of planets in divisional charts after the degrees of the planets are fed in. However, For each chart, we get 12 strengths for each planet, one for each house. So which of these strengths is to be considered? The total of these strengths for all charts? That might lead us to a figure in thousands! Or the strength of a planet for all the 12 houses in a particular divisional chart? Or the strength of a planet for a particular house in a particular divisional chart? The worksheet as it is can be used for calculating the strength in divisional charts with a little modification. So it can show the results of the A+B+C points in the summary sheet instead of the total of row 17. To automatically calculate points for all divisionals, I would have to write a few macros and test these but that is also possible. However, I need to know how we use these totals so that I can present the relevant figures on one sheet rather than having hundreds of irrelevant figures. Kind regards Sanjay - " krushanain " <krushanain Friday, June 27, 2003 1:45 AM Re: Divisional Charts > Dear Sanjay, > Happy to hear from you. You have made this system very easy. > any body can use it. Before your worksheet, it was very difficult to > calculate the strength. There was more chances for mistake. Now with > the help of Work sheet, This system can be adopted by any body. > In my opinion it is you who made this system very easy. > Actually before starting group here, I have tried to get the system > computerised. I have made much efforts. Taken help of so many > persons. But no use. > This system came to me from my Guru. It was with me for more > then 25 years. I have not taken it more seriously. I was using it. > But it was taking at least two to three days to calculate. So I was > using it only on some special charts. After a event happened on the > specific date, I got more interest in the system. Tried to teach to > many persons. Very few had followed it. Sach had followed it very > nicely. Then started this on some group, but the responce was very > less. Then with the suggestion of Shri Peterji I started it in > groups. Here you, Donna, Sandy, Peterji,Margarita, Ash have taken > keen interest. You have helped by making computerised program for > calculating the strength. ( which I my self used very late due to my > ignorance of Computer) It is a good turning point for this system. > Further Denis also made a fully automatic worksheet. Now Ash > is also making some program ( in process). He followed the system > nicely. > The divisional charts are also having importance. > Navamansha, Dreshkona, Trishansa charts are having their own > importance. Other charts are having importance. Perticularly for > selecting profession div charts are very important. > The basic strength of the planets in div charts should be > taken for consideration. Basic strength means total of points of > houses A, B, C. If any planet gets more points in all or more charts, > it should be considered as stroger. It can give better result. > If you can give some of your time to make a program for > calculating the strength of all the planets in all the div charts. > For this one should feed the Rashi degree of the planets. If such > program can be made, It will be a good achivement. > Only Navamansha chart is having equal status that of Rashi > chart. So one must consider navamansha chart. > Realy I a much grateful to you for giving such a good > program. > Thank you very much > krushna > > , " S J " > <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > I see that the group is very active these days. > > > > I am sorry I have not been able to participate because of other > commitments > > but I have been reading the mails. Ash has been extremely prolific > and I see > > that he has become a staunch follower of the system. :-) > > > > I have a question about one of the mails regarding divisional > charts. > > Margarita forwarded a mail from you giving rules for interpreting > divisional > > chart points recently. My query relates to that. > > > > You said that we should take points for the karak for the > divisional chart > > by considering only results from House A. B and C. I was trying to > include > > this in the worksheet but ran into a few confusions. I hope you can > clarify: > > > > Let us start by an example. Let us say that Aries is the Lagna and > we are > > looking for the 7th house matters. So lord of 2nd house, Venus, > becomes the > > functional karak. > > > > Which divisional charts do we consider? The major 15 charts or less > or more? > > Do we look at the points of Venus in houses 2, 7 and 11 in all > these 15 > > houses? Or do we take the basic strength of ashtakavarga points in > the SAV > > of the divisional house? > > > > You said that 96 points or more are good. If I take the point total > in 15 > > subdivisions for ABC, then it is an average of less than 7 points > per > > division and every planet is likey to get this. If I take only the > SAV > > points then the average is more than 6 and it is very unlikely that > even a > > planet like Jupiter would average more than 6 points in all sub > divisions. > > > > I think I have not understood how to calculate the points correctly > in > > arriving at the totals. Would be grateful for your clarification. > > > > Kind regards > > Sanjay > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2003 Report Share Posted June 27, 2003 Dear Krushnaji and Sanjay, Sanjay, thanks for your kind words. The way I had envisioned this qustions about sheets I would like to share with you. You know your Sarva sheet right, just like that If you create A+B+C points for all 12 houses for each divisional chart. So if you have 12 such boxes or Sheets with only the Sarva box 1 for each divisional chart for 14 other charts (I do not know about Navamsa if we still need to consider aspects and 4:10 as its given equal weightage) that maybe Krushnaji can clarify. I think then it will be more concise and things will be visible at a glance. I am sure you can also create another sheet based on above giving Planet/House i.e. if you read that post given by Krushnaji about identifying the persons profession of Mining and Quarry and petrol pump or gas station, Krushnaji checked that in 6 of the 16 charts Shani was in 10th house. This part will be based on just positioning. I thought of just giving my views as Krushnajis inputs will also help me in designing AV program. I face the similar issues, sometimes programming becomes easy if only we get more clarity in the process. I share the same sentiments as you w.r.t your anaology regarding we are brick layers and under guidance of an Architect... A good one :=). Cheers !!! Ash , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > Thank you, but the writing of the program is the easy part. It is just > application of logic. The important part is what is the logic to follow and > that is the essence of the system anyway. So I am aware that my work is like > that of the bricklayer who is just following the instructions of the > architect! > > I need some information to make a program. It is easy to calculate the > position of planets in divisional charts after the degrees of the planets > are fed in. However, For each chart, we get 12 strengths for each planet, > one for each house. So which of these strengths is to be considered? The > total of these strengths for all charts? That might lead us to a figure in > thousands! Or the strength of a planet for all the 12 houses in a particular > divisional chart? Or the strength of a planet for a particular house in a > particular divisional chart? > > The worksheet as it is can be used for calculating the strength in > divisional charts with a little modification. So it can show the results of > the A+B+C points in the summary sheet instead of the total of row 17. To > automatically calculate points for all divisionals, I would have to write a > few macros and test these but that is also possible. However, I need to know > how we use these totals so that I can present the relevant figures on one > sheet rather than having hundreds of irrelevant figures. > > Kind regards > Sanjay > - > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > Friday, June 27, 2003 1:45 AM > Re: Divisional Charts > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > Happy to hear from you. You have made this system very easy. > > any body can use it. Before your worksheet, it was very difficult to > > calculate the strength. There was more chances for mistake. Now with > > the help of Work sheet, This system can be adopted by any body. > > In my opinion it is you who made this system very easy. > > Actually before starting group here, I have tried to get the system > > computerised. I have made much efforts. Taken help of so many > > persons. But no use. > > This system came to me from my Guru. It was with me for more > > then 25 years. I have not taken it more seriously. I was using it. > > But it was taking at least two to three days to calculate. So I was > > using it only on some special charts. After a event happened on the > > specific date, I got more interest in the system. Tried to teach to > > many persons. Very few had followed it. Sach had followed it very > > nicely. Then started this on some group, but the responce was very > > less. Then with the suggestion of Shri Peterji I started it in > > groups. Here you, Donna, Sandy, Peterji,Margarita, Ash have taken > > keen interest. You have helped by making computerised program for > > calculating the strength. ( which I my self used very late due to my > > ignorance of Computer) It is a good turning point for this system. > > Further Denis also made a fully automatic worksheet. Now Ash > > is also making some program ( in process). He followed the system > > nicely. > > The divisional charts are also having importance. > > Navamansha, Dreshkona, Trishansa charts are having their own > > importance. Other charts are having importance. Perticularly for > > selecting profession div charts are very important. > > The basic strength of the planets in div charts should be > > taken for consideration. Basic strength means total of points of > > houses A, B, C. If any planet gets more points in all or more charts, > > it should be considered as stroger. It can give better result. > > If you can give some of your time to make a program for > > calculating the strength of all the planets in all the div charts. > > For this one should feed the Rashi degree of the planets. If such > > program can be made, It will be a good achivement. > > Only Navamansha chart is having equal status that of Rashi > > chart. So one must consider navamansha chart. > > Realy I a much grateful to you for giving such a good > > program. > > Thank you very much > > krushna > > > > , " S J " > > <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > > I see that the group is very active these days. > > > > > > I am sorry I have not been able to participate because of other > > commitments > > > but I have been reading the mails. Ash has been extremely prolific > > and I see > > > that he has become a staunch follower of the system. :-) > > > > > > I have a question about one of the mails regarding divisional > > charts. > > > Margarita forwarded a mail from you giving rules for interpreting > > divisional > > > chart points recently. My query relates to that. > > > > > > You said that we should take points for the karak for the > > divisional chart > > > by considering only results from House A. B and C. I was trying to > > include > > > this in the worksheet but ran into a few confusions. I hope you can > > clarify: > > > > > > Let us start by an example. Let us say that Aries is the Lagna and > > we are > > > looking for the 7th house matters. So lord of 2nd house, Venus, > > becomes the > > > functional karak. > > > > > > Which divisional charts do we consider? The major 15 charts or less > > or more? > > > Do we look at the points of Venus in houses 2, 7 and 11 in all > > these 15 > > > houses? Or do we take the basic strength of ashtakavarga points in > > the SAV > > > of the divisional house? > > > > > > You said that 96 points or more are good. If I take the point total > > in 15 > > > subdivisions for ABC, then it is an average of less than 7 points > > per > > > division and every planet is likey to get this. If I take only the > > SAV > > > points then the average is more than 6 and it is very unlikely that > > even a > > > planet like Jupiter would average more than 6 points in all sub > > divisions. > > > > > > I think I have not understood how to calculate the points correctly > > in > > > arriving at the totals. Would be grateful for your clarification. > > > > > > Kind regards > > > Sanjay > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Dear Ash, Thanks for your suggestions. I think these are fine. In the mail, Krushnaji said that if a planet has 96 points in the divisional charts or if a house has 72 points in these charts, it is good. I just wanted to know which points go towards counting these. Can you please clarify that? I would be grateful. Regards Sanjay - " ashsam73 " <ashsam73 Friday, June 27, 2003 3:27 PM Re: Divisional Charts > Dear Krushnaji and Sanjay, > > Sanjay, thanks for your kind words. The way I had envisioned this > qustions about sheets I would like to share with you. > > You know your Sarva sheet right, just like that If you create A+B+C > points for all 12 houses for each divisional chart. So if you have > 12 such boxes or Sheets with only the Sarva box 1 for each > divisional chart for 14 other charts (I do not know about Navamsa if > we still need to consider aspects and 4:10 as its given equal > weightage) that maybe Krushnaji can clarify. I think then it will > be more concise and things will be visible at a glance. > > I am sure you can also create another sheet based on above giving > Planet/House i.e. if you read that post given by Krushnaji about > identifying the persons profession of Mining and Quarry and petrol > pump or gas station, Krushnaji checked that in 6 of the 16 charts > Shani was in 10th house. This part will be based on just > positioning. > > I thought of just giving my views as Krushnajis inputs will also > help me in designing AV program. I face the similar issues, > sometimes programming becomes easy if only we get more clarity in > the process. I share the same sentiments as you w.r.t your anaology > regarding we are brick layers and under guidance of an Architect... > A good one :=). > > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " S J " > <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > Thank you, but the writing of the program is the easy part. It is > just > > application of logic. The important part is what is the logic to > follow and > > that is the essence of the system anyway. So I am aware that my > work is like > > that of the bricklayer who is just following the instructions of > the > > architect! > > > > I need some information to make a program. It is easy to calculate > the > > position of planets in divisional charts after the degrees of the > planets > > are fed in. However, For each chart, we get 12 strengths for each > planet, > > one for each house. So which of these strengths is to be > considered? The > > total of these strengths for all charts? That might lead us to a > figure in > > thousands! Or the strength of a planet for all the 12 houses in a > particular > > divisional chart? Or the strength of a planet for a particular > house in a > > particular divisional chart? > > > > The worksheet as it is can be used for calculating the strength in > > divisional charts with a little modification. So it can show the > results of > > the A+B+C points in the summary sheet instead of the total of row > 17. To > > automatically calculate points for all divisionals, I would have > to write a > > few macros and test these but that is also possible. However, I > need to know > > how we use these totals so that I can present the relevant figures > on one > > sheet rather than having hundreds of irrelevant figures. > > > > Kind regards > > Sanjay > > - > > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > > > Friday, June 27, 2003 1:45 AM > > Re: Divisional Charts > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > Happy to hear from you. You have made this system very > easy. > > > any body can use it. Before your worksheet, it was very > difficult to > > > calculate the strength. There was more chances for mistake. Now > with > > > the help of Work sheet, This system can be adopted by any body. > > > In my opinion it is you who made this system very easy. > > > Actually before starting group here, I have tried to get the > system > > > computerised. I have made much efforts. Taken help of so many > > > persons. But no use. > > > This system came to me from my Guru. It was with me for > more > > > then 25 years. I have not taken it more seriously. I was using > it. > > > But it was taking at least two to three days to calculate. So I > was > > > using it only on some special charts. After a event happened on > the > > > specific date, I got more interest in the system. Tried to teach > to > > > many persons. Very few had followed it. Sach had followed it very > > > nicely. Then started this on some group, but the responce was > very > > > less. Then with the suggestion of Shri Peterji I started it in > > > > groups. Here you, Donna, Sandy, Peterji,Margarita, Ash have taken > > > keen interest. You have helped by making computerised program for > > > calculating the strength. ( which I my self used very late due > to my > > > ignorance of Computer) It is a good turning point for this > system. > > > Further Denis also made a fully automatic worksheet. > Now Ash > > > is also making some program ( in process). He followed the system > > > nicely. > > > The divisional charts are also having importance. > > > Navamansha, Dreshkona, Trishansa charts are having their own > > > importance. Other charts are having importance. Perticularly for > > > selecting profession div charts are very important. > > > The basic strength of the planets in div charts should > be > > > taken for consideration. Basic strength means total of points of > > > houses A, B, C. If any planet gets more points in all or more > charts, > > > it should be considered as stroger. It can give better result. > > > If you can give some of your time to make a program for > > > calculating the strength of all the planets in all the div > charts. > > > For this one should feed the Rashi degree of the planets. If such > > > program can be made, It will be a good achivement. > > > Only Navamansha chart is having equal status that of > Rashi > > > chart. So one must consider navamansha chart. > > > Realy I a much grateful to you for giving such a good > > > program. > > > Thank you very much > > > krushna > > > > > > , " S J " > > > <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > > > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > > > > I see that the group is very active these days. > > > > > > > > I am sorry I have not been able to participate because of other > > > commitments > > > > but I have been reading the mails. Ash has been extremely > prolific > > > and I see > > > > that he has become a staunch follower of the system. :-) > > > > > > > > I have a question about one of the mails regarding divisional > > > charts. > > > > Margarita forwarded a mail from you giving rules for > interpreting > > > divisional > > > > chart points recently. My query relates to that. > > > > > > > > You said that we should take points for the karak for the > > > divisional chart > > > > by considering only results from House A. B and C. I was > trying to > > > include > > > > this in the worksheet but ran into a few confusions. I hope > you can > > > clarify: > > > > > > > > Let us start by an example. Let us say that Aries is the Lagna > and > > > we are > > > > looking for the 7th house matters. So lord of 2nd house, Venus, > > > becomes the > > > > functional karak. > > > > > > > > Which divisional charts do we consider? The major 15 charts or > less > > > or more? > > > > Do we look at the points of Venus in houses 2, 7 and 11 in all > > > these 15 > > > > houses? Or do we take the basic strength of ashtakavarga > points in > > > the SAV > > > > of the divisional house? > > > > > > > > You said that 96 points or more are good. If I take the point > total > > > in 15 > > > > subdivisions for ABC, then it is an average of less than 7 > points > > > per > > > > division and every planet is likey to get this. If I take only > the > > > SAV > > > > points then the average is more than 6 and it is very unlikely > that > > > even a > > > > planet like Jupiter would average more than 6 points in all sub > > > divisions. > > > > > > > > I think I have not understood how to calculate the points > correctly > > > in > > > > arriving at the totals. Would be grateful for your > clarification. > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Dear Sanjay, Good to hear from you. I am a little confused about 96 and 72 points. I think the values should be 12*12 = 144 for Karak. So if it has atleast 12 points (minimum) for all 12 houses then if total is > 144 then we can say that the planet is strong so Blue else Red. For 7 planets and minimum 12 points for each house then its 12*7 = 84. So if Total > 84 for that house then its benefic or Blue else Malefic or Red. The native will not enjoy full happiness form that house. For Total Transit points we consider minimum of 196 as break even and this figure we get due to 7 planets with average of 28 SAV points so 7*28 = 196 points for the day. If person gets more points then results will be felt with more power. i.e Quantum will increase. For divisional charts, just the same thing you have done. Just consider the first part, i.e. A+B+C and plug it into the Sarva sheet for that house and for that div chart. I do not thing you even have to make multiple worksheets as we just conisder points of A+B+C so I think Sarva sheet that you have will work just fine. I do not know if you need to show the order of strongest to weakest significator ??? This part maybe Krushnaji can clarify the way he would like to see it ??? I also had another suggestion... you know LOD and LOE right in your SARVA chart and even if they have less points then they are with Red and underlined. But we do not consider those to be Malefic so if they were in a different colour .. This is just a nice to have .. not necessary :=D. Sanjay, I do not know if Krushnaji means that if that planet has 12 points i.e. (A+B+C) in all 16 divisional chart i.e 12*16 = 192 points and if we can consider those to be strong ?? Krushnaji can you clarify this point please. Please let me know if this mail has answered your question. Thanking you, Cheers !!! Ash , " S J " <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for your suggestions. I think these are fine. > > In the mail, Krushnaji said that if a planet has 96 points in the divisional > charts or if a house has 72 points in these charts, it is good. I just > wanted to know which points go towards counting these. Can you please > clarify that? I would be grateful. > > Regards > Sanjay > > - > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> > > Friday, June 27, 2003 3:27 PM > Re: Divisional Charts > > > > Dear Krushnaji and Sanjay, > > > > Sanjay, thanks for your kind words. The way I had envisioned this > > qustions about sheets I would like to share with you. > > > > You know your Sarva sheet right, just like that If you create A+B+C > > points for all 12 houses for each divisional chart. So if you have > > 12 such boxes or Sheets with only the Sarva box 1 for each > > divisional chart for 14 other charts (I do not know about Navamsa if > > we still need to consider aspects and 4:10 as its given equal > > weightage) that maybe Krushnaji can clarify. I think then it will > > be more concise and things will be visible at a glance. > > > > I am sure you can also create another sheet based on above giving > > Planet/House i.e. if you read that post given by Krushnaji about > > identifying the persons profession of Mining and Quarry and petrol > > pump or gas station, Krushnaji checked that in 6 of the 16 charts > > Shani was in 10th house. This part will be based on just > > positioning. > > > > I thought of just giving my views as Krushnajis inputs will also > > help me in designing AV program. I face the similar issues, > > sometimes programming becomes easy if only we get more clarity in > > the process. I share the same sentiments as you w.r.t your anaology > > regarding we are brick layers and under guidance of an Architect... > > A good one :=). > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " S J " > > <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > > Thank you, but the writing of the program is the easy part. It is > > just > > > application of logic. The important part is what is the logic to > > follow and > > > that is the essence of the system anyway. So I am aware that my > > work is like > > > that of the bricklayer who is just following the instructions of > > the > > > architect! > > > > > > I need some information to make a program. It is easy to calculate > > the > > > position of planets in divisional charts after the degrees of the > > planets > > > are fed in. However, For each chart, we get 12 strengths for each > > planet, > > > one for each house. So which of these strengths is to be > > considered? The > > > total of these strengths for all charts? That might lead us to a > > figure in > > > thousands! Or the strength of a planet for all the 12 houses in a > > particular > > > divisional chart? Or the strength of a planet for a particular > > house in a > > > particular divisional chart? > > > > > > The worksheet as it is can be used for calculating the strength in > > > divisional charts with a little modification. So it can show the > > results of > > > the A+B+C points in the summary sheet instead of the total of row > > 17. To > > > automatically calculate points for all divisionals, I would have > > to write a > > > few macros and test these but that is also possible. However, I > > need to know > > > how we use these totals so that I can present the relevant figures > > on one > > > sheet rather than having hundreds of irrelevant figures. > > > > > > Kind regards > > > Sanjay > > > - > > > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > > > > > Friday, June 27, 2003 1:45 AM > > > Re: Divisional Charts > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > Happy to hear from you. You have made this system very > > easy. > > > > any body can use it. Before your worksheet, it was very > > difficult to > > > > calculate the strength. There was more chances for mistake. Now > > with > > > > the help of Work sheet, This system can be adopted by any body. > > > > In my opinion it is you who made this system very easy. > > > > Actually before starting group here, I have tried to get the > > system > > > > computerised. I have made much efforts. Taken help of so many > > > > persons. But no use. > > > > This system came to me from my Guru. It was with me for > > more > > > > then 25 years. I have not taken it more seriously. I was using > > it. > > > > But it was taking at least two to three days to calculate. So I > > was > > > > using it only on some special charts. After a event happened on > > the > > > > specific date, I got more interest in the system. Tried to teach > > to > > > > many persons. Very few had followed it. Sach had followed it very > > > > nicely. Then started this on some group, but the responce was > > very > > > > less. Then with the suggestion of Shri Peterji I started it in > > > > > > groups. Here you, Donna, Sandy, Peterji,Margarita, Ash have taken > > > > keen interest. You have helped by making computerised program for > > > > calculating the strength. ( which I my self used very late due > > to my > > > > ignorance of Computer) It is a good turning point for this > > system. > > > > Further Denis also made a fully automatic worksheet. > > Now Ash > > > > is also making some program ( in process). He followed the system > > > > nicely. > > > > The divisional charts are also having importance. > > > > Navamansha, Dreshkona, Trishansa charts are having their own > > > > importance. Other charts are having importance. Perticularly for > > > > selecting profession div charts are very important. > > > > The basic strength of the planets in div charts should > > be > > > > taken for consideration. Basic strength means total of points of > > > > houses A, B, C. If any planet gets more points in all or more > > charts, > > > > it should be considered as stroger. It can give better result. > > > > If you can give some of your time to make a program for > > > > calculating the strength of all the planets in all the div > > charts. > > > > For this one should feed the Rashi degree of the planets. If such > > > > program can be made, It will be a good achivement. > > > > Only Navamansha chart is having equal status that of > > Rashi > > > > chart. So one must consider navamansha chart. > > > > Realy I a much grateful to you for giving such a good > > > > program. > > > > Thank you very much > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > , " S J " > > > > <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > > > > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > > > > > > I see that the group is very active these days. > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry I have not been able to participate because of other > > > > commitments > > > > > but I have been reading the mails. Ash has been extremely > > prolific > > > > and I see > > > > > that he has become a staunch follower of the system. :-) > > > > > > > > > > I have a question about one of the mails regarding divisional > > > > charts. > > > > > Margarita forwarded a mail from you giving rules for > > interpreting > > > > divisional > > > > > chart points recently. My query relates to that. > > > > > > > > > > You said that we should take points for the karak for the > > > > divisional chart > > > > > by considering only results from House A. B and C. I was > > trying to > > > > include > > > > > this in the worksheet but ran into a few confusions. I hope > > you can > > > > clarify: > > > > > > > > > > Let us start by an example. Let us say that Aries is the Lagna > > and > > > > we are > > > > > looking for the 7th house matters. So lord of 2nd house, Venus, > > > > becomes the > > > > > functional karak. > > > > > > > > > > Which divisional charts do we consider? The major 15 charts or > > less > > > > or more? > > > > > Do we look at the points of Venus in houses 2, 7 and 11 in all > > > > these 15 > > > > > houses? Or do we take the basic strength of ashtakavarga > > points in > > > > the SAV > > > > > of the divisional house? > > > > > > > > > > You said that 96 points or more are good. If I take the point > > total > > > > in 15 > > > > > subdivisions for ABC, then it is an average of less than 7 > > points > > > > per > > > > > division and every planet is likey to get this. If I take only > > the > > > > SAV > > > > > points then the average is more than 6 and it is very unlikely > > that > > > > even a > > > > > planet like Jupiter would average more than 6 points in all sub > > > > divisions. > > > > > > > > > > I think I have not understood how to calculate the points > > correctly > > > > in > > > > > arriving at the totals. Would be grateful for your > > clarification. > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Dear Ash, Thanks for calling me out. Right now I'm not giving precidence to my studies and I've been caught in the whirlwind of work and self management. It is a constant struggle for me. The gears are changinng for me soon. I can once again become a student, and I leave the working world persay, for a span. It is here where I am planning to incoroporate the knowledge as a pure student like yourself. The time is fast approaching and i will soon reliquish my daily duties to study. I see that there is a lot to incorportate, but I am sure that I've come up with a plan of action to assimilate all these years of lessons. I'm on my way soon.... Puneet , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear Sanjay, > Good to hear from you. I am a little confused about 96 and 72 > points. > > I think the values should be 12*12 = 144 for Karak. So if it has > atleast 12 points (minimum) for all 12 houses then if total is > 144 > then we can say that the planet is strong so Blue else Red. > > For 7 planets and minimum 12 points for each house then its 12*7 = > 84. So if Total > 84 for that house then its benefic or Blue else > Malefic or Red. The native will not enjoy full happiness form that > house. > > For Total Transit points we consider minimum of 196 as break even > and this figure we get due to 7 planets with average of 28 SAV > points so 7*28 = 196 points for the day. If person gets more points > then results will be felt with more power. i.e Quantum will > increase. > > For divisional charts, just the same thing you have done. Just > consider the first part, i.e. A+B+C and plug it into the Sarva sheet > for that house and for that div chart. I do not thing you even have > to make multiple worksheets as we just conisder points of A+B+C so I > think Sarva sheet that you have will work just fine. I do not know > if you need to show the order of strongest to weakest > significator ??? This part maybe Krushnaji can clarify the way he > would like to see it ??? > > > I also had another suggestion... you know LOD and LOE right in your > SARVA chart and even if they have less points then they are with Red > and underlined. But we do not consider those to be Malefic so if > they were in a different colour .. This is just a nice to have .. > not necessary :=D. > > Sanjay, I do not know if Krushnaji means that if that planet has 12 > points i.e. (A+B+C) in all 16 divisional chart i.e 12*16 = 192 > points and if we can consider those to be strong ?? Krushnaji can > you clarify this point please. > > Please let me know if this mail has answered your question. > > Thanking you, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > > , " S J " > <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > > Dear Ash, > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I think these are fine. > > > > In the mail, Krushnaji said that if a planet has 96 points in the > divisional > > charts or if a house has 72 points in these charts, it is good. I > just > > wanted to know which points go towards counting these. Can you > please > > clarify that? I would be grateful. > > > > Regards > > Sanjay > > > > - > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> > > > > Friday, June 27, 2003 3:27 PM > > Re: Divisional Charts > > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji and Sanjay, > > > > > > Sanjay, thanks for your kind words. The way I had envisioned > this > > > qustions about sheets I would like to share with you. > > > > > > You know your Sarva sheet right, just like that If you create > A+B+C > > > points for all 12 houses for each divisional chart. So if you > have > > > 12 such boxes or Sheets with only the Sarva box 1 for each > > > divisional chart for 14 other charts (I do not know about > Navamsa if > > > we still need to consider aspects and 4:10 as its given equal > > > weightage) that maybe Krushnaji can clarify. I think then it > will > > > be more concise and things will be visible at a glance. > > > > > > I am sure you can also create another sheet based on above giving > > > Planet/House i.e. if you read that post given by Krushnaji about > > > identifying the persons profession of Mining and Quarry and > petrol > > > pump or gas station, Krushnaji checked that in 6 of the 16 charts > > > Shani was in 10th house. This part will be based on just > > > positioning. > > > > > > I thought of just giving my views as Krushnajis inputs will also > > > help me in designing AV program. I face the similar issues, > > > sometimes programming becomes easy if only we get more clarity in > > > the process. I share the same sentiments as you w.r.t your > anaology > > > regarding we are brick layers and under guidance of an > Architect... > > > A good one :=). > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > Ash > > > > > > , " S J " > > > <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > > > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > > > > Thank you, but the writing of the program is the easy part. It > is > > > just > > > > application of logic. The important part is what is the logic > to > > > follow and > > > > that is the essence of the system anyway. So I am aware that my > > > work is like > > > > that of the bricklayer who is just following the instructions > of > > > the > > > > architect! > > > > > > > > I need some information to make a program. It is easy to > calculate > > > the > > > > position of planets in divisional charts after the degrees of > the > > > planets > > > > are fed in. However, For each chart, we get 12 strengths for > each > > > planet, > > > > one for each house. So which of these strengths is to be > > > considered? The > > > > total of these strengths for all charts? That might lead us to > a > > > figure in > > > > thousands! Or the strength of a planet for all the 12 houses > in a > > > particular > > > > divisional chart? Or the strength of a planet for a particular > > > house in a > > > > particular divisional chart? > > > > > > > > The worksheet as it is can be used for calculating the > strength in > > > > divisional charts with a little modification. So it can show > the > > > results of > > > > the A+B+C points in the summary sheet instead of the total of > row > > > 17. To > > > > automatically calculate points for all divisionals, I would > have > > > to write a > > > > few macros and test these but that is also possible. However, I > > > need to know > > > > how we use these totals so that I can present the relevant > figures > > > on one > > > > sheet rather than having hundreds of irrelevant figures. > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > Sanjay > > > > - > > > > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > > > > > > > Friday, June 27, 2003 1:45 AM > > > > Re: Divisional Charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > > Happy to hear from you. You have made this system > very > > > easy. > > > > > any body can use it. Before your worksheet, it was very > > > difficult to > > > > > calculate the strength. There was more chances for mistake. > Now > > > with > > > > > the help of Work sheet, This system can be adopted by any > body. > > > > > In my opinion it is you who made this system very > easy. > > > > > Actually before starting group here, I have tried to get the > > > system > > > > > computerised. I have made much efforts. Taken help of so many > > > > > persons. But no use. > > > > > This system came to me from my Guru. It was with me > for > > > more > > > > > then 25 years. I have not taken it more seriously. I was > using > > > it. > > > > > But it was taking at least two to three days to calculate. > So I > > > was > > > > > using it only on some special charts. After a event happened > on > > > the > > > > > specific date, I got more interest in the system. Tried to > teach > > > to > > > > > many persons. Very few had followed it. Sach had followed it > very > > > > > nicely. Then started this on some group, but the responce was > > > very > > > > > less. Then with the suggestion of Shri Peterji I started it > in > > > > > > > > groups. Here you, Donna, Sandy, Peterji,Margarita, Ash have > taken > > > > > keen interest. You have helped by making computerised > program for > > > > > calculating the strength. ( which I my self used very late > due > > > to my > > > > > ignorance of Computer) It is a good turning point for this > > > system. > > > > > Further Denis also made a fully automatic worksheet. > > > Now Ash > > > > > is also making some program ( in process). He followed the > system > > > > > nicely. > > > > > The divisional charts are also having importance. > > > > > Navamansha, Dreshkona, Trishansa charts are having their own > > > > > importance. Other charts are having importance. Perticularly > for > > > > > selecting profession div charts are very important. > > > > > The basic strength of the planets in div charts > should > > > be > > > > > taken for consideration. Basic strength means total of > points of > > > > > houses A, B, C. If any planet gets more points in all or more > > > charts, > > > > > it should be considered as stroger. It can give better > result. > > > > > If you can give some of your time to make a > program for > > > > > calculating the strength of all the planets in all the div > > > charts. > > > > > For this one should feed the Rashi degree of the planets. If > such > > > > > program can be made, It will be a good achivement. > > > > > Only Navamansha chart is having equal status that > of > > > Rashi > > > > > chart. So one must consider navamansha chart. > > > > > Realy I a much grateful to you for giving such a > good > > > > > program. > > > > > Thank you very much > > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > , " S J " > > > > > <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > I see that the group is very active these days. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry I have not been able to participate because of > other > > > > > commitments > > > > > > but I have been reading the mails. Ash has been extremely > > > prolific > > > > > and I see > > > > > > that he has become a staunch follower of the system. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a question about one of the mails regarding > divisional > > > > > charts. > > > > > > Margarita forwarded a mail from you giving rules for > > > interpreting > > > > > divisional > > > > > > chart points recently. My query relates to that. > > > > > > > > > > > > You said that we should take points for the karak for the > > > > > divisional chart > > > > > > by considering only results from House A. B and C. I was > > > trying to > > > > > include > > > > > > this in the worksheet but ran into a few confusions. I hope > > > you can > > > > > clarify: > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us start by an example. Let us say that Aries is the > Lagna > > > and > > > > > we are > > > > > > looking for the 7th house matters. So lord of 2nd house, > Venus, > > > > > becomes the > > > > > > functional karak. > > > > > > > > > > > > Which divisional charts do we consider? The major 15 > charts or > > > less > > > > > or more? > > > > > > Do we look at the points of Venus in houses 2, 7 and 11 in > all > > > > > these 15 > > > > > > houses? Or do we take the basic strength of ashtakavarga > > > points in > > > > > the SAV > > > > > > of the divisional house? > > > > > > > > > > > > You said that 96 points or more are good. If I take the > point > > > total > > > > > in 15 > > > > > > subdivisions for ABC, then it is an average of less than 7 > > > points > > > > > per > > > > > > division and every planet is likey to get this. If I take > only > > > the > > > > > SAV > > > > > > points then the average is more than 6 and it is very > unlikely > > > that > > > > > even a > > > > > > planet like Jupiter would average more than 6 points in > all sub > > > > > divisions. > > > > > > > > > > > > I think I have not understood how to calculate the points > > > correctly > > > > > in > > > > > > arriving at the totals. Would be grateful for your > > > clarification. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2003 Report Share Posted June 30, 2003 Dear Puneet, Good to hear from you. All the best in your current endeavours and I hope that your transition from working life to being a univ student once again is smooth. In any case all the best and looking foward to you joining back on the AV band wagon. Cheers !!! Ash , " sunnyjoshi25 " <sunnyjoshi25> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Thanks for calling me out. Right now I'm not giving precidence to my > studies and I've been caught in the whirlwind of work and self > management. It is a constant struggle for me. The gears are changinng > for me soon. I can once again become a student, and I leave the > working world persay, for a span. It is here where I am planning to > incoroporate the knowledge as a pure student like yourself. The time > is fast approaching and i will soon reliquish my daily duties to > study. I see that there is a lot to incorportate, but I am sure that > I've come up with a plan of action to assimilate all these years of > lessons. I'm on my way soon.... > > Puneet > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > > Dear Sanjay, > > Good to hear from you. I am a little confused about 96 and 72 > > points. > > > > I think the values should be 12*12 = 144 for Karak. So if it has > > atleast 12 points (minimum) for all 12 houses then if total is > > 144 > > then we can say that the planet is strong so Blue else Red. > > > > For 7 planets and minimum 12 points for each house then its 12*7 = > > 84. So if Total > 84 for that house then its benefic or Blue else > > Malefic or Red. The native will not enjoy full happiness form that > > house. > > > > For Total Transit points we consider minimum of 196 as break even > > and this figure we get due to 7 planets with average of 28 SAV > > points so 7*28 = 196 points for the day. If person gets more > points > > then results will be felt with more power. i.e Quantum will > > increase. > > > > For divisional charts, just the same thing you have done. Just > > consider the first part, i.e. A+B+C and plug it into the Sarva > sheet > > for that house and for that div chart. I do not thing you even > have > > to make multiple worksheets as we just conisder points of A+B+C so > I > > think Sarva sheet that you have will work just fine. I do not know > > if you need to show the order of strongest to weakest > > significator ??? This part maybe Krushnaji can clarify the way he > > would like to see it ??? > > > > > > I also had another suggestion... you know LOD and LOE right in your > > SARVA chart and even if they have less points then they are with > Red > > and underlined. But we do not consider those to be Malefic so if > > they were in a different colour .. This is just a nice to have .. > > not necessary :=D. > > > > Sanjay, I do not know if Krushnaji means that if that planet has 12 > > points i.e. (A+B+C) in all 16 divisional chart i.e 12*16 = 192 > > points and if we can consider those to be strong ?? Krushnaji can > > you clarify this point please. > > > > Please let me know if this mail has answered your question. > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > , " S J " > > <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > > > Dear Ash, > > > > > > Thanks for your suggestions. I think these are fine. > > > > > > In the mail, Krushnaji said that if a planet has 96 points in the > > divisional > > > charts or if a house has 72 points in these charts, it is good. I > > just > > > wanted to know which points go towards counting these. Can you > > please > > > clarify that? I would be grateful. > > > > > > Regards > > > Sanjay > > > > > > - > > > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> > > > > > > Friday, June 27, 2003 3:27 PM > > > Re: Divisional Charts > > > > > > > > > > Dear Krushnaji and Sanjay, > > > > > > > > Sanjay, thanks for your kind words. The way I had envisioned > > this > > > > qustions about sheets I would like to share with you. > > > > > > > > You know your Sarva sheet right, just like that If you create > > A+B+C > > > > points for all 12 houses for each divisional chart. So if you > > have > > > > 12 such boxes or Sheets with only the Sarva box 1 for each > > > > divisional chart for 14 other charts (I do not know about > > Navamsa if > > > > we still need to consider aspects and 4:10 as its given equal > > > > weightage) that maybe Krushnaji can clarify. I think then it > > will > > > > be more concise and things will be visible at a glance. > > > > > > > > I am sure you can also create another sheet based on above > giving > > > > Planet/House i.e. if you read that post given by Krushnaji about > > > > identifying the persons profession of Mining and Quarry and > > petrol > > > > pump or gas station, Krushnaji checked that in 6 of the 16 > charts > > > > Shani was in 10th house. This part will be based on just > > > > positioning. > > > > > > > > I thought of just giving my views as Krushnajis inputs will also > > > > help me in designing AV program. I face the similar issues, > > > > sometimes programming becomes easy if only we get more clarity > in > > > > the process. I share the same sentiments as you w.r.t your > > anaology > > > > regarding we are brick layers and under guidance of an > > Architect... > > > > A good one :=). > > > > > > > > Cheers !!! > > > > Ash > > > > > > > > , " S J " > > > > <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > > > > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, but the writing of the program is the easy part. > It > > is > > > > just > > > > > application of logic. The important part is what is the logic > > to > > > > follow and > > > > > that is the essence of the system anyway. So I am aware that > my > > > > work is like > > > > > that of the bricklayer who is just following the instructions > > of > > > > the > > > > > architect! > > > > > > > > > > I need some information to make a program. It is easy to > > calculate > > > > the > > > > > position of planets in divisional charts after the degrees of > > the > > > > planets > > > > > are fed in. However, For each chart, we get 12 strengths for > > each > > > > planet, > > > > > one for each house. So which of these strengths is to be > > > > considered? The > > > > > total of these strengths for all charts? That might lead us > to > > a > > > > figure in > > > > > thousands! Or the strength of a planet for all the 12 houses > > in a > > > > particular > > > > > divisional chart? Or the strength of a planet for a particular > > > > house in a > > > > > particular divisional chart? > > > > > > > > > > The worksheet as it is can be used for calculating the > > strength in > > > > > divisional charts with a little modification. So it can show > > the > > > > results of > > > > > the A+B+C points in the summary sheet instead of the total of > > row > > > > 17. To > > > > > automatically calculate points for all divisionals, I would > > have > > > > to write a > > > > > few macros and test these but that is also possible. However, > I > > > > need to know > > > > > how we use these totals so that I can present the relevant > > figures > > > > on one > > > > > sheet rather than having hundreds of irrelevant figures. > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > - > > > > > " krushanain " <krushanain> > > > > > > > > > > Friday, June 27, 2003 1:45 AM > > > > > Re: Divisional Charts > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjay, > > > > > > Happy to hear from you. You have made this system > > very > > > > easy. > > > > > > any body can use it. Before your worksheet, it was very > > > > difficult to > > > > > > calculate the strength. There was more chances for mistake. > > Now > > > > with > > > > > > the help of Work sheet, This system can be adopted by any > > body. > > > > > > In my opinion it is you who made this system very > > easy. > > > > > > Actually before starting group here, I have tried to get the > > > > system > > > > > > computerised. I have made much efforts. Taken help of so > many > > > > > > persons. But no use. > > > > > > This system came to me from my Guru. It was with > me > > for > > > > more > > > > > > then 25 years. I have not taken it more seriously. I was > > using > > > > it. > > > > > > But it was taking at least two to three days to calculate. > > So I > > > > was > > > > > > using it only on some special charts. After a event > happened > > on > > > > the > > > > > > specific date, I got more interest in the system. Tried to > > teach > > > > to > > > > > > many persons. Very few had followed it. Sach had followed > it > > very > > > > > > nicely. Then started this on some group, but the responce > was > > > > very > > > > > > less. Then with the suggestion of Shri Peterji I started it > > in > > > > > > > > > > groups. Here you, Donna, Sandy, Peterji,Margarita, Ash have > > taken > > > > > > keen interest. You have helped by making computerised > > program for > > > > > > calculating the strength. ( which I my self used very late > > due > > > > to my > > > > > > ignorance of Computer) It is a good turning point for this > > > > system. > > > > > > Further Denis also made a fully automatic > worksheet. > > > > Now Ash > > > > > > is also making some program ( in process). He followed the > > system > > > > > > nicely. > > > > > > The divisional charts are also having importance. > > > > > > Navamansha, Dreshkona, Trishansa charts are having their own > > > > > > importance. Other charts are having importance. > Perticularly > > for > > > > > > selecting profession div charts are very important. > > > > > > The basic strength of the planets in div charts > > should > > > > be > > > > > > taken for consideration. Basic strength means total of > > points of > > > > > > houses A, B, C. If any planet gets more points in all or > more > > > > charts, > > > > > > it should be considered as stroger. It can give better > > result. > > > > > > If you can give some of your time to make a > > program for > > > > > > calculating the strength of all the planets in all the div > > > > charts. > > > > > > For this one should feed the Rashi degree of the planets. > If > > such > > > > > > program can be made, It will be a good achivement. > > > > > > Only Navamansha chart is having equal status that > > of > > > > Rashi > > > > > > chart. So one must consider navamansha chart. > > > > > > Realy I a much grateful to you for giving such a > > good > > > > > > program. > > > > > > Thank you very much > > > > > > krushna > > > > > > > > > > > > , " S J " > > > > > > <sanjaygg@c...> wrote: > > > > > > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I see that the group is very active these days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry I have not been able to participate because of > > other > > > > > > commitments > > > > > > > but I have been reading the mails. Ash has been extremely > > > > prolific > > > > > > and I see > > > > > > > that he has become a staunch follower of the system. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a question about one of the mails regarding > > divisional > > > > > > charts. > > > > > > > Margarita forwarded a mail from you giving rules for > > > > interpreting > > > > > > divisional > > > > > > > chart points recently. My query relates to that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You said that we should take points for the karak for the > > > > > > divisional chart > > > > > > > by considering only results from House A. B and C. I was > > > > trying to > > > > > > include > > > > > > > this in the worksheet but ran into a few confusions. I > hope > > > > you can > > > > > > clarify: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us start by an example. Let us say that Aries is the > > Lagna > > > > and > > > > > > we are > > > > > > > looking for the 7th house matters. So lord of 2nd house, > > Venus, > > > > > > becomes the > > > > > > > functional karak. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which divisional charts do we consider? The major 15 > > charts or > > > > less > > > > > > or more? > > > > > > > Do we look at the points of Venus in houses 2, 7 and 11 > in > > all > > > > > > these 15 > > > > > > > houses? Or do we take the basic strength of ashtakavarga > > > > points in > > > > > > the SAV > > > > > > > of the divisional house? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You said that 96 points or more are good. If I take the > > point > > > > total > > > > > > in 15 > > > > > > > subdivisions for ABC, then it is an average of less than 7 > > > > points > > > > > > per > > > > > > > division and every planet is likey to get this. If I take > > only > > > > the > > > > > > SAV > > > > > > > points then the average is more than 6 and it is very > > unlikely > > > > that > > > > > > even a > > > > > > > planet like Jupiter would average more than 6 points in > > all sub > > > > > > divisions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think I have not understood how to calculate the points > > > > correctly > > > > > > in > > > > > > > arriving at the totals. Would be grateful for your > > > > clarification. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kind regards > > > > > > > Sanjay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 Therese, - " Therese Hamilton " <eastwest Wednesday, December 03, 2003 5:41 PM Divisional Charts > >I agree navamsha is important and often it DOES reveal critical differences > >in the lives of twins. While I have been playing around with the notion of > >the cross-over or overlay charts, I have yet to find a systematic template > >for them...but finding a methodical approach to them to assess planetary > and house strength remains elusive. What is your experience with them? > > I can give a few examples. I have many examples, but they're not at my > fingertips right now. I'm in the middle of a massive sorting of papers and > horoscopes. > > (1) As I remember (subject to correction when I find the charts), when I > did a study of therapy nurses, a common contact was Venus to the Moon > (major aspects) in the natal chart. Suppose nurses 4 and 6 had no > Moon-Venus aspects. Then nurse 4 would have navamsa Venus crossing over to > the natal ascendant (close orb) and nurse 6 would have navamsa Venus > crossing to natal Moon, again with a fairly small orb. Right. This makes sense to me. > > (2) Planets in the navamsa chart that cross to the natal ascendant (small > orb) will generally (maybe always) fit the psychological profile of the > person. This is beginning with planetary profiles for each planet. I use > Cayce's definitions of the planets--I have the CD with all his readings and > several books as well. Oh. Aren't some of Cayce's profiles of planets very different from what is commomly accepted? With many hundreds (thousands?) of life eadings, > he's pretty thorough on the planets. I also use Garth Allen's book and the > Gauquelin findings. They're all pretty much the same, sometimes disagreeing > with Tropical interpretaion, however. > > (3) If I'm studying a planet in a group of charts, such as Mercury for > software engineers--say Saturn is generally with Mercury--if there isn't a > natal aspect, these planets will tend to be conjunct or in square or > opposition in the navamsa chart. Or there will be a crossover. > Good. That is what one would expect. OTOH, one has to be aware of declining statistical significance. Depending on the orb one uses, the likelihood of Saturn Mercury contacts rises dramatically when you throw in navamsha and crossover examples. Have you worked out a probability profile on this? I would think it would be 1 in 4, possibly less. > I haven't found navamsa planets--as such--important in natal chart houses > unless they are very close to an equal house cusp. Excellent way of keeping it simple. I haven't tried this but will give it a shot. I don't have anything > definite on this yet. I also don't have anything on navamsa houses as such, > though it seems that planets in the angular navamsa houses (for accurate > birth times) may be important in the person's life. These may not be > 'houses' so much as hard aspects to the ascendant--always by sign. > > (4) I've found the situation of Venus and its navamsa aspects (hard > aspects) revealing in homosexual charts. Also the navamsa 7th house ruler, > but I'm not too trusting of that yet. Dunno about this one. > > (5) Hard aspects to the Moon in the navamsa seem to describe a person's > planetary profiles. The orb can't be too wide--I haven't worked the > allowable orb out yet. > > So these are some examples of how I'm studying the navamsa chart. Having > way too much cardinality and mutability in my horoscope (only one planet is > in a fixed sidereal sign--Mercury), I have MANY projects at the halfway > stage. I'm trying to correct that now by first getting everything organized > and filed. This is a MAJOR job--over 25 years worth of research, and it's > going very slowly due to other demands on my time. > Wow! Good thing at least Mercury is in a fixed sign! :-) FWIW, I'm the same way, maybe worse. Except not having a lot of cardinal planets, I don't even bother to start anything!! :-) Thanks for sharing where you're at on all this. I take a more piecemeal approach I guess, looking only for clear hits to natal planets within two degrees for extra information. Eg. Bush's 10th lord Mars exactly conjunct navamsha Jupiter within one degree if using Lahiri, 5 minutes if using Krishnamurti. And thanks for posting the Dean-Kelly story. One gets skeptical when you read things like " most within a few minutes of each other " . Yeah, well how many were within a few minutes, and how far away did they live from each other??? Dean has demonstrated that he can't be trusted, so unfortunately, all that research energy has to go down the tubes. For now, I'll chose darkness. cheers, Chris Therese > > > > > " How can Pluto be in Sagittarius when it's so close to Antares? " ----- > > Post message: > Subscribe: - > Un: - > List owner: -owner > > Shortcut URL to this page: > / > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 At 06:06 PM 12/4/03 -0800, Chris wrote: >...Aren't some of Cayce's profiles of planets very different from what is >commomly accepted? I guess I made too much of a blanket statement there. Cayce's take on Saturn is very different from the standard. He says that Saturn rules change and the tendency to make many new starts without finishing up what was begun before. That certainly fits me! I have Saturn conjunct my ascendant ruler. The Gauquelins, of course, never said anything about Uranus, Neptune and Pluto. Also Cayce's take on Pluto agrees somewhat with Garth Allen, but not with the current opinion of Tropical astrologers. Yes, there are some differences, but there's also a lot of agreement with Venus, Mercury and Jupiter. >>Therese wrote: >> (3) If I'm studying a planet in a group of charts, such as Mercury for >> software engineers--say Saturn is generally with Mercury--if there isn't a >> natal aspect, these planets will tend to be conjunct or in square or >> opposition in the navamsa chart. Or there will be a crossover. >> >>Chris wrote: >Good. That is what one would expect. OTOH, one has to be aware of >declining statistical significance. Depending on the orb one uses, the >likelihood of Saturn Mercury contacts rises dramatically when you throw in >navamsha and crossover examples. Have you worked out a probability profile >on this? I would think it would be 1 in 4, possibly less. I don't work anymore with statistics, Chris. I leave that to the professionals. I look for and find patterns, and often compare two different sets of charts such as software engineers with psychics. I note down what I see, and hopefully in the future someone will run tests on the patterns. Astrology is poorly suited to statistical tests, just as psychology is. Usually the pattern for something is " A, " " B, " " C, " or " D. " Such as with nurses (example only): (A) Venus in aspect to the Moon in the natal chart within an orb of X. (The orbs will be smaller for sextiles, for example. So right away there are orb differences depending on the type of aspect and whether the aspect is dexter or sinister. (B) Or navamsa Venus will be conjunct natal Moon within an orb of X. © Or navamsa Venus will be conjunct natal ascendant within an orb of X. (D) Or Venus will be conjunct the Moon in the navamsa chart, but only in signs X, Y and Z. Astrology won't fit into the standards and techniques used in physical science. This is where Dean and his crew go wrong. Psychology doesn't really fit the physical science framework either. It seems to me that the only way we can ever test astrological technique is to first set the patterns for a trait or profession that astrologers can recognize. Then give astrologers a stack of charts and ask them to pull out X number of charts for people who display that trait or work in said profession. If there is general agreement, and the astrologers are correct, then that particular facet of astrology can be said to 'work.' Chris wrote: >Dunno about this one (homosexuality in the navamsa). This is one study that I believe we could get some statistics on. Pluto and/or the nodes in certain relationships to Venus and/or the 7th lord in the navamsa chart. This is where the ayanamsa is important. > Wow! Good thing at least Mercury is in a fixed sign! :-) FWIW, I'm the >same way, maybe worse. Except not having a lot of cardinal planets, I don't >even bother to start anything!! :-) Maybe this is an astrologer's syndrome, and maybe this is why astrology is still the little kid on the scientific block! Thanks for sharing where you're at on >all this. I take a more piecemeal approach I guess, looking only for clear >hits to natal planets within two degrees for extra information. Eg. Bush's >10th lord Mars exactly conjunct navamsha Jupiter within one degree if using >Lahiri, 5 minutes if using Krishnamurti. One hit for Krishnamurti....This is why after some years I changed from Lahiri to Krishnamurti after moving from Fagan-Allen to Lahiri. But I leave the ayanamsa question open until there's a lot more research. >And thanks for posting the Dean-Kelly story. One gets skeptical when you >read things like " most within a few minutes of each other " . Yeah, well how >many were within a few minutes, and how far away did they live from each >other??? Dean has demonstrated that he can't be trusted, so unfortunately, >all that research energy has to go down the tubes. Very true, but Dean will go on believing that he has done a fine job of disproving astrology. Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Therese, > >>Therese wrote: > >> (3) If I'm studying a planet in a group of charts, such as Mercury for > >> software engineers--say Saturn is generally with Mercury--if there isn't a > >> natal aspect, these planets will tend to be conjunct or in square or > >> opposition in the navamsa chart. Or there will be a crossover. > >> > >>Chris wrote: > >Good. That is what one would expect. OTOH, one has to be aware of > >declining statistical significance. Depending on the orb one uses, the > >likelihood of Saturn Mercury contacts rises dramatically when you throw in > >navamsha and crossover examples. Have you worked out a probability profile > >on this? I would think it would be 1 in 4, possibly less. > > I don't work anymore with statistics, Chris. I leave that to the > professionals. I look for and find patterns, and often compare two > different sets of charts such as software engineers with psychics. I note > down what I see, and hopefully in the future someone will run tests on the > patterns. OK, I'm not a stat head either but sometimes I like to know the implications. If you use 6* for major ptolemaic aspects and 1* for minor ones, 1 out of 10 charts will have Saturn-Mercury hits. Now if you expand that to navamsha using the same orbs, and then for crossover charts as well, you may have almost 3 out of 10 charts having some kind of activity. That's a lot of software engineers. If nothing else, this sensitizes me to the importance of the smallest orbs possible. cheers, Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 At 09:38 AM 12/6/03 -0800, Chris wrote: > >OK, I'm not a stat head either but sometimes I like to know the >implications. If you use 6* for major ptolemaic aspects and 1* for minor >ones, 1 out of 10 charts will have Saturn-Mercury hits. Now if you expand >that to navamsha using the same orbs, and then for crossover charts as well, >you may have almost 3 out of 10 charts having some kind of activity. That's >a lot of software engineers. If nothing else, this sensitizes me to the >importance of the smallest orbs possible. Hi Chris, I don't use minor aspects in either the natal or navamsa chart. I use the majors--conjunction, opposition, square and trine. Once in a while I'll use a very close sinister (forward) sextile with small orbs in the natal chart. I'll use the sinister sextile with Saturn giving it a wider orb. In the navamsa I geneally use only the major hard aspects--conjunction, opposition and square. If I'm looking at Jupiter I'll consider the trine. Depending on the project, I may only look at conjunctions in the navamsa. I agree that it's easy to be misled unless you compare groups of charts. I try to take two very different groups for comparison. It's all well and good to consider theory, but it's only by studying groups of charts that an astrologer begins to get a feel for how the aspects work and what a planet in a sign means. I have 20 charts each of painters and politicians. If you're a pro astrologer, you may want to look at the charts. You can either study them blind or I can give you the patterns I found in the charts. If you can apply the patterns and sort most of the charts correctly, then we'd have an astrological plus. Therese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Hi Therese, It may be yawningly wide but I have to have the sextile between Saturn-Uranus in Hitler's natus. )* Therese Hamilton wrote: > At 09:38 AM 12/6/03 -0800, Chris wrote: > > > >OK, I'm not a stat head either but sometimes I like to know the > >implications. If you use 6* for major ptolemaic aspects and 1* for minor > >ones, 1 out of 10 charts will have Saturn-Mercury hits. > > Hi Chris, > > I don't use minor aspects in either the natal or navamsa chart. I use the > majors--conjunction, opposition, square and trine. Once in a while I'll use > a very close sinister (forward) sextile with small orbs in the natal chart. > I'll use the sinister sextile with Saturn giving it a wider orb. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Do we have an example chart analysis that illustrates the use of divisional charts in the suggested manner? Thanks & Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> wrote: > Dear Margarita, > Awesome, Thanks. This was the email I was refering to. > Thanks, > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " dmlettens " > <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > > Hello Ash, Raajashri, > > Here comes the mail. Happy reading to all > > Margarita > > > > > > krushna kalani J.K. [krushanain@h...] > > Saturday, April 07, 2001 9:28 PM > > > > Re: divisional charts > > > > Dear Margarita, > > Yes, this system can be applied to all the 16 charts. In > 120 minits > > aproximaletly about 150 Nadies are their. When any of the chart > from 16 > > charts changes Nadi changes. The time period is ranging from 8 > secs to > > maximum 75 secs aproximatly. For rectifying the Birth time Nadi > is most > > important factor. For delicate questions We must refer to > indicated chart. > > This system is basically for finding the strength of the > planets. > > For Rashi chart we apply it for finding the strengths of the > planets for > > each house. > > By applying it to all the charts and finding the basic > strength > > only, ( total of A+B+C) and getting culative strength of the > planet ( total > > of all the planets for all the houses, Vertical column) can give > hidden > > strength of the planets. Here we do not consider the effect of > sight or > > 4:10th relationship. For Dual birth the difference of time is very > less. In > > such cases, divisional charts are very use ful. Basic Strength of > each div. > > chart can give the strength for the event indicated by the div. > chart. > > Calculating the Basic strength of all the charts manually > is very > > difficult. Now with the help of this computerised program We can > find the > > strength of each planet in all the div. charts. These charts can > be used > > perticularly for finding the strength of the Karak planets ( lord > of A) So > > we can justify the results. > > If the karak planet is getting more then 96 points then > it can be > > treated as good. > > Similarly If we get total for each house by each planets > more then > > 72 points the strength can be treated as good. > > For Div. Charts we take only the total of A+B+C = Basic > strength. > > Only first portion of the worksheet can be used. > > krushna > > > > > > > " Lettens " <dmlettens@s...> > > > > > > > > > divisional charts > > >Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:52:05 +0200 > > > > > >Respected Krushna, > > >In a mail last month you wrote a message praising Donna's and > Sanjay's work > > >with the worksheet : their work will be a revolution in > Astrology " this > > >system can be applied to all the 16 div. charts " > > >What does this exactly mean ? > > >Do you mean that we can take each divisional chart as a > birthchart and > > >evaluate the points each planet gets.? > > >Do you compare then the result with the rashi chart? > > >Or do you mean something else ? > > >Thanks for answering and best regards > > >Margarita > > > > > ___________________ > ____ > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at > http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Dear Manu, There was an example chart that Krushnaji had used D charts in which Shani was coming 5-6 times in 10th house in shodamsa. So it gave profession linked to shani. I do not remember that mail off hand.. but you can look up the archives. That was the mail about some person Krushnaji had warned about partnership but after 1.5 years there was problem and person lost 1.5 crores. I think before getting into D charts we should first get proper hold of this system.... In general if you are unsure of a planet if its going to give result or not.. then u go to D charts.... Maybe in time.. Krushnaji will give us a lesson.. detailed lesson and charts to practice... Cheers !!! Ash , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Do we have an example chart analysis that illustrates the use of > divisional charts in the suggested manner? > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Dear Ash, Thanks. Yes, I think you are very right. Analysing rasi chart also seems difficult for now. Let us wait for D-charts. Ash, I have one more doubt. What would be the result like if ra's antra is running and it is placed in sign of LoD and nakshatra of LoE, LoD having high strength points and LoE having very low strength points. Can we say that the event shall happen but with difficulties and the native will experience happiness in some respects and sorrow in other respects. I haven't seen any such chart as yet. It is a hypothetical case. Thanks & Regards, Manu , " ashsam73 " <ashsam73> wrote: > Dear Manu, > There was an example chart that Krushnaji had used D charts in which > Shani was coming 5-6 times in 10th house in shodamsa. > So it gave profession linked to shani. I do not remember that mail > off hand.. but you can look up the archives. > That was the mail about some person Krushnaji had warned about > partnership but after 1.5 years there was problem and person lost 1.5 > crores. > I think before getting into D charts we should first get proper hold > of this system.... In general if you are unsure of a planet if its > going to give result or not.. then u go to D charts.... > Maybe in time.. Krushnaji will give us a lesson.. detailed lesson and > charts to practice... > Cheers !!! > Ash > > , " Manu Batura " > <manubatura> wrote: > > Do we have an example chart analysis that illustrates the use of > > divisional charts in the suggested manner? > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > Manu > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2004 Report Share Posted February 2, 2004 Dear Manu, We should work with proper chart otherwise there are so many combinations. Seperate happiness from timing. This part you will understand the depth in time. You will see most results in texts based on happiness from a house .. hence more texts talk on unncha house , neecha etc.. that is covered in lesson 26. So timing of event is crucial. In the chart u just made prediction I am glad to see u picked up the antra and OVERALL EFFECT FOR ALL 12 HOUSE AT A GLANCE and came to know how period will be overall...from all angles.... That is very powerful concept... Cheers !!! Ash , " Manu Batura " <manubatura> wrote: > Dear Ash, > > Thanks. Yes, I think you are very right. Analysing rasi chart also > seems difficult for now. Let us wait for D-charts. > > Ash, I have one more doubt. What would be the result like if ra's > antra is running and it is placed in sign of LoD and nakshatra of > LoE, LoD having high strength points and LoE having very low strength > points. > > Can we say that the event shall happen but with difficulties and the > native will experience happiness in some respects and sorrow in other > respects. > > I haven't seen any such chart as yet. It is a hypothetical case. > > Thanks & Regards, > Manu > > > > , " ashsam73 " > <ashsam73> wrote: > > Dear Manu, > > There was an example chart that Krushnaji had used D charts in > which > > Shani was coming 5-6 times in 10th house in shodamsa. > > So it gave profession linked to shani. I do not remember that mail > > off hand.. but you can look up the archives. > > That was the mail about some person Krushnaji had warned about > > partnership but after 1.5 years there was problem and person lost > 1.5 > > crores. > > I think before getting into D charts we should first get proper > hold > > of this system.... In general if you are unsure of a planet if its > > going to give result or not.. then u go to D charts.... > > Maybe in time.. Krushnaji will give us a lesson.. detailed lesson > and > > charts to practice... > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > , " Manu Batura " > > <manubatura> wrote: > > > Do we have an example chart analysis that illustrates the use of > > > divisional charts in the suggested manner? > > > > > > Thanks & Regards, > > > Manu > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Dear Jagdish, Divisional chart lessons have not been covered. With the lessons and KAS technique taught so far, if applied properly and with experience one can narrow events to within 13 days of the event. D charts will be covered in time and in a systematic manner but first things first is to get a very good and strong handle on the technique that we follow. For now, for income or expneses, you have WS. Check 11th v/s 12th house points and that gives u a good idea. Check 2nd house in WS for wealth. 10th for effort and authority, 6th for social status and job and health etc. 8th for unearled wealth and 5th for speculation. You can get a good picture for now. You are expected to have a good undrestanding of VA and then use KAS for addressing timing of events. Cheers !!! Ash , Prathamesn Chawan <upaoakcrest wrote: > > Respected Sir, > > If divisional chart has bindu in increasing order in 3rd,6th,10th and 11th. Then what does it indicates ? > > I am more concerned in Hora chart, Navmasha chart and Dasmasa chart. > > Best Wishes > > Jagdish > > > > Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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