Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Dear Friends, I recently did a chart of someone that was adopted and wanted to know what to look for in these type of charts I don't know the time of birth but the date was on July 6, 1954. I noticed that the Sun was conjoined the Nodal axis on this day. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. Best regards, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Dear John.. Can you let us know what city, state and country? Yes, there can be an affliction or bad placement of the Sun and Moon, along with weakness or afflictions to the second and fourth houses and/or rulers if containing mooltrikona signs. I was adopted and can attest to this. David Hawthorne On Behalf Of johndorio Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:34 PM Charts for Cases of Adoption Dear Friends, I recently did a chart of someone that was adopted and wanted to know what to look for in these type of charts I don't know the time of birth but the date was on July 6, 1954. I noticed that the Sun was conjoined the Nodal axis on this day. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. Best regards, John --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Dear John, Adopted individuals would have utter weak in strength 4th house and / or 2nd house, Sun and Moon. Eighth lord would be strong in the chart. Kind regards Sujit -- - johndorio Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:04 AM Charts for Cases of Adoption Dear Friends, I recently did a chart of someone that was adopted and wanted to know what to look for in these type of charts I don't know the time of birth but the date was on July 6, 1954. I noticed that the Sun was conjoined the Nodal axis on this day. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. Best regards, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Dear Sujit: I agree with your assessment with the weakness of the second and fourth houses and Sun and Moon. Why, however, would eighth lord be strong? In the case of my adoption, my eighth lord is closely afflicted, denying inheritance. Best wishes, David Hawthorne On Behalf Of Sujit Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:54 PM Re: Charts for Cases of Adoption Dear John, Adopted individuals would have utter weak in strength 4th house and / or 2nd house, Sun and Moon. Eighth lord would be strong in the chart. Kind regards Sujit ---------- ---- - johndorio Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:04 AM Charts for Cases of Adoption Dear Friends, I recently did a chart of someone that was adopted and wanted to know what to look for in these type of charts I don't know the time of birth but the date was on July 6, 1954. I noticed that the Sun was conjoined the Nodal axis on this day. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. Best regards, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Dear David, There are cases where adopted children (from very young) do not know any difference between either sets of parents. In such cases one would expect less weakness and a significant challenging subperiod happening right around birth. The more affected the person is, the greater the weakness. Professor Choudhury has said that the loss of parents is seen in this order: 4, 9, the Sun and the Moon. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - " David Hawthorne " <david Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:20 AM RE: Charts for Cases of Adoption Dear Sujit: I agree with your assessment with the weakness of the second and fourth houses and Sun and Moon. Why, however, would eighth lord be strong? In the case of my adoption, my eighth lord is closely afflicted, denying inheritance. Best wishes, David Hawthorne On Behalf Of Sujit Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:54 PM Re: Charts for Cases of Adoption Dear John, Adopted individuals would have utter weak in strength 4th house and / or 2nd house, Sun and Moon. Eighth lord would be strong in the chart. Kind regards Sujit ---------- ---- - johndorio Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:04 AM Charts for Cases of Adoption Dear Friends, I recently did a chart of someone that was adopted and wanted to know what to look for in these type of charts I don't know the time of birth but the date was on July 6, 1954. I noticed that the Sun was conjoined the Nodal axis on this day. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. Best regards, John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Dear and list members: I seem to recall asking you, , some time back whether or not one could tell from just looking at a chart if someone was adopted at birth (without some affirmation from the individual), but I cannot find the post in my search of Satva101. So if you could please answer this question once more Sir, I would be most appreciative. Thanking you for your patience and knowledge, Mew , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Dear David, > > There are cases where adopted children (from very young) do not know any > difference between either sets of parents. In such cases one would expect > less weakness and a significant challenging subperiod happening right around > birth. The more affected the person is, the greater the weakness. > > Professor Choudhury has said that the loss of parents is seen in this order: > 4, 9, the Sun and the Moon. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " David Hawthorne " <david > > Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:20 AM > RE: Charts for Cases of Adoption > > > Dear Sujit: > > I agree with your assessment with the weakness of the second and fourth > houses and Sun and Moon. > > Why, however, would eighth lord be strong? > > In the case of my adoption, my eighth lord is closely afflicted, denying > inheritance. > > Best wishes, > > David Hawthorne > > > > On Behalf > Of Sujit > Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:54 PM > > Re: Charts for Cases of Adoption > > Dear John, > > Adopted individuals would have utter weak in strength 4th house and / or 2nd > house, Sun and Moon. > > Eighth lord would be strong in the chart. > > Kind regards > Sujit > ---------- > ---- > > - > johndorio > > Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:04 AM > Charts for Cases of Adoption > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > I recently did a chart of someone that was adopted and wanted to know what > to look for in these type of charts I don't know the time of birth but the > date was on July 6, 1954. I noticed that the Sun was conjoined the Nodal > axis on this day. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. > > Best regards, > John > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Hello Mew, From the chart itself it is difficult to be said with confidence. - Mary Ellen Wright Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:05 PM Re: Charts for Cases of Adoption Dear and list members: I seem to recall asking you, , some time back whether or not one could tell from just looking at a chart if someone was adopted at birth (without some affirmation from the individual), but I cannot find the post in my search of Satva101. So if you could please answer this question once more Sir, I would be most appreciative. Thanking you for your patience and knowledge, Mew , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > Dear David, > > There are cases where adopted children (from very young) do not know any > difference between either sets of parents. In such cases one would expect > less weakness and a significant challenging subperiod happening right around > birth. The more affected the person is, the greater the weakness. > > Professor Choudhury has said that the loss of parents is seen in this order: > 4, 9, the Sun and the Moon. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > - > " David Hawthorne " <david > > Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:20 AM > RE: Charts for Cases of Adoption > > > Dear Sujit: > > I agree with your assessment with the weakness of the second and fourth > houses and Sun and Moon. > > Why, however, would eighth lord be strong? > > In the case of my adoption, my eighth lord is closely afflicted, denying > inheritance. > > Best wishes, > > David Hawthorne > > > > On Behalf > Of Sujit > Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:54 PM > > Re: Charts for Cases of Adoption > > Dear John, > > Adopted individuals would have utter weak in strength 4th house and / or 2nd > house, Sun and Moon. > > Eighth lord would be strong in the chart. > > Kind regards > Sujit > ------------------------- > ---- > > - > johndorio > > Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:04 AM > Charts for Cases of Adoption > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > I recently did a chart of someone that was adopted and wanted to know what > to look for in these type of charts I don't know the time of birth but the > date was on July 6, 1954. I noticed that the Sun was conjoined the Nodal > axis on this day. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. > > Best regards, > John > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2009 Report Share Posted June 17, 2009 Thank you Professor ... Best Wishes, Mew , " SIHA " <vkchoudhry wrote: > > > Hello Mew, > > From the chart itself it is difficult to be said with confidence. > > > > > > - > Mary Ellen Wright > > Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:05 PM > Re: Charts for Cases of Adoption > > > > > > Dear and list members: > > I seem to recall asking you, , some time back whether or not one could tell from just looking at a chart if someone was adopted at birth (without some affirmation from the individual), but I cannot find the post in my search of Satva101. > > So if you could please answer this question once more Sir, I would be most appreciative. > > Thanking you for your patience and knowledge, > > Mew > > , " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@> wrote: > > > > Dear David, > > > > There are cases where adopted children (from very young) do not know any > > difference between either sets of parents. In such cases one would expect > > less weakness and a significant challenging subperiod happening right around > > birth. The more affected the person is, the greater the weakness. > > > > Professor Choudhury has said that the loss of parents is seen in this order: > > 4, 9, the Sun and the Moon. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > > " David Hawthorne " <david@> > > > > Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:20 AM > > RE: Charts for Cases of Adoption > > > > > > Dear Sujit: > > > > I agree with your assessment with the weakness of the second and fourth > > houses and Sun and Moon. > > > > Why, however, would eighth lord be strong? > > > > In the case of my adoption, my eighth lord is closely afflicted, denying > > inheritance. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > David Hawthorne > > > > > > > > On Behalf > > Of Sujit > > Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:54 PM > > > > Re: Charts for Cases of Adoption > > > > Dear John, > > > > Adopted individuals would have utter weak in strength 4th house and / or 2nd > > house, Sun and Moon. > > > > Eighth lord would be strong in the chart. > > > > Kind regards > > Sujit > > ------------------------- > > ---- > > > > - > > johndorio > > > > Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:04 AM > > Charts for Cases of Adoption > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > I recently did a chart of someone that was adopted and wanted to know what > > to look for in these type of charts I don't know the time of birth but the > > date was on July 6, 1954. I noticed that the Sun was conjoined the Nodal > > axis on this day. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. > > > > Best regards, > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 The place is Waco, Texas. Sorry I didn't post this. John , " David Hawthorne " <david wrote: > > Dear John.. > > Can you let us know what city, state and country? > > Yes, there can be an affliction or bad placement of the Sun and Moon, along > with weakness or afflictions to the second and fourth houses and/or rulers > if containing mooltrikona signs. > > I was adopted and can attest to this. > > David Hawthorne > > > On Behalf > Of johndorio > Tuesday, June 16, 2009 7:34 PM > > Charts for Cases of Adoption > > Dear Friends, > > I recently did a chart of someone that was adopted and wanted to know what > to look for in these type of charts I don't know the time of birth but the > date was on July 6, 1954. I noticed that the Sun was conjoined the Nodal > axis on this day. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. > > Best regards, > John > > > > --- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Dear Sir, This is a very interesting discussion. A friend had asked me about adopting a child last month when he had already signed the papers for adoption. As of last week, he has got the baby boy home. As per the records from the hospital where this child was abandoned immediately after birth, the details are Place: Bangalore Time: Around 12 noon Date : 10-Nov-2008 From this chart, it shows ascendant rising in Capricorn, with 2nd house lord in 8th -just entered old age, 4th lord in infancy, 9th lord combust, Sun in debilitation and Moon debilitated in Navamsha. I wonder what is in store for the child and the new parents. Will the horoscopes of parents be now affecting the child's or vice versa ? How do we assess the situation ? Regards, Ashwin On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:34 PM, SIHA <vkchoudhry wrote: > > > > Hello Mew, > > From the chart itself it is difficult to be said with confidence. > > > > > - > Mary Ellen Wright > <%40> > Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:05 PM > Re: Charts for Cases of Adoption > > Dear and list members: > > I seem to recall asking you, , some time back whether or > not one could tell from just looking at a chart if someone was adopted at > birth (without some affirmation from the individual), but I cannot find the > post in my search of Satva101. > > So if you could please answer this question once more Sir, I would be most > appreciative. > > Thanking you for your patience and knowledge, > > Mew > > <%40>, " Vyas > Munidas " <muni> wrote: > > > > Dear David, > > > > There are cases where adopted children (from very young) do not know any > > difference between either sets of parents. In such cases one would expect > > > less weakness and a significant challenging subperiod happening right > around > > birth. The more affected the person is, the greater the weakness. > > > > Professor Choudhury has said that the loss of parents is seen in this > order: > > 4, 9, the Sun and the Moon. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > > " David Hawthorne " <david > > < <%40>> > > Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:20 AM > > RE: Charts for Cases of Adoption > > > > > > Dear Sujit: > > > > I agree with your assessment with the weakness of the second and fourth > > houses and Sun and Moon. > > > > Why, however, would eighth lord be strong? > > > > In the case of my adoption, my eighth lord is closely afflicted, denying > > inheritance. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > David Hawthorne > > > > > > > > <%40> [ > <%40>] On Behalf > > Of Sujit > > Tuesday, June 16, 2009 9:54 PM > > <%40> > > Re: Charts for Cases of Adoption > > > > Dear John, > > > > Adopted individuals would have utter weak in strength 4th house and / or > 2nd > > house, Sun and Moon. > > > > Eighth lord would be strong in the chart. > > > > Kind regards > > Sujit > > ------------------------- > > ---- > > > > - > > johndorio > > <%40> > > Wednesday, June 17, 2009 6:04 AM > > Charts for Cases of Adoption > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > I recently did a chart of someone that was adopted and wanted to know > what > > to look for in these type of charts I don't know the time of birth but > the > > date was on July 6, 1954. I noticed that the Sun was conjoined the Nodal > > axis on this day. Any comments or suggestions are welcome. > > > > Best regards, > > John > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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