Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 > Thank you, my Dear Professor. 1) Could Armstrong's severe affliction of 12House RA to 3Lord Moon -- seated in the 8th, weak and at 2degrees -- involve him in deceptive initiatives? (You told me once that RA afflicting 3L makes one a perpetrator) 2)Whatever is in the chart will manifest. I understand 8L in the second gives him huge easy legacy. But where do we see the effect of 8th Lord JU's affliction to 10L SA in the 8th? 3)Would this 10L affliction involve him in hidden ventures and cover ups? Thank you so much. Lila Hello Lila, > > I cannot add comments for your first question. > > A strong 8th lord acts like a strong Sun and gives monumental legacies > which are much more than the efforts / work of the concerned person. The > question of monumental legacies was discussed in the recent SA > astrologers' conference, as well. > > The weak planets like his third lord under the influence of Rahu bring in > involvements. And if there are strong planets like Jupiter in his case to > support, one has a good chance to achieve success, as well. > > Neil Armstrong got the fame but there must be thousands who worked for the > success of the mission. > > > www.YourNetAstrologer.com > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). > Phones: 91 124 2219240 > Mobile phone: 91 9811016333 > > - > lila > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:25 AM > Armstrong research and 3 questions for Prof. > > > Dear Group, > > To begin this research, I wrote to the county of Wapakoneta for his > birth > certificate. My heart fell upon receiving the verified TOB. It does not > look like someone with a strong career. > > I've heard that 15% of all Americans believe we never landed on the > Moon. > Gallop poll, no less. I took it to be a theory propagated by " weirdo's " . > But after reading both sides of the equation I began to wonder. > > I was surprised to find medical doctors who believe he never landed on > the > Moon. They proposed we DID go to the Moon, but sent someone else, > keeping > the military hero/astronaut Neil Armstrong on the ground on a movie set, > so that even if we did not return, we could still puff our chests > claiming > we did. There are many other theories. > > I can Monday morning quarterback this chart like everyone else. I did > the > math and it seems about 3.6% of all people would have a strong 8th lord > in > the 2L. I can see what the Professor tells us about his strong 8L. Even > so, I would never be able to see this chart as one of the most famous > and > capable men who ever walked the face of the planet earth - or any other > planet for that matter. > > I am hoping the Professor will " append as below " as he says, and help me > with three sincere questions: > > 1) Whether or not the Professor thinks Neil Armstrong actually landed on > the Moon. Is there a chance that given this chart he did not do so, and > history is different than we think? > > 2)I have asked Dr. Professor and Space flights and astronaut as career > is > THIRD HOUSE. His third house lord MO is useless, 2 degrees afflicted, in > the 8th. To quote the Professor on this chart: strength of the Moon does > not enhance appreciably with good placement of Jupiter. How can this man > be a capable astronaut? (I am not speaking of an easy gain. He actually > was a very capable astronaut.) > > 3) Professor has told me that when 8L and 10L mutually aspect each > other, > 8L wins. How was his career (farmer, professor, not just astronaut) able > to succeed? His appointments may have been bestowed (8th house easy > gain) > but his continued success in all endeavors, from what I've read was > earned. This does not look a like a career success chart. > > I hope everyone can understand why I still have questions. > > Thank you so very much for your patience. > > Lila > > Hello Lila, > > > > He has only Jupiter well placed which rules easy gains and legacies. > > > > The close influence of Rahu on the third lord makes the person > > adventurous. The placement of the Sun in the third house brings > courage. > > The close influence of the fifth lord on the tenth house brings the > > element of intellect. All these factors would not have worked for him > in > > the absence of the placement of Jupiter in the house of status. The > good > > placement of eighth lord in the house of status brings easy gains with > > small or little efforts. > > > > > > > > - > > lila > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:56 PM > > Re: Chart for Group > > > > > > Rama, > > > > I beg to differ for a moment. His 8th lord is exactly afflicting the > > 10th > > lord, Saturn, lord of profession, PLUS lord of profession is in the > 8th > > house, which makes this a SPECIAL AFFLICTION. Can't be good. > > > > Dr. Professor has told us that Sun can help profession for Taureans. > > However he has also instructed us that no planet can be stronger that > > its > > depositor. Sun's depositor for Mr. Armstrong is Moon - weak, seated in > > the > > 8th, 100% afflicted by RA from the 12th. This also is a special > > affliction, I believe, and not good. > > > > While JU is not afflicted, it is AFFLICTING (one of the tests of a > > strong > > planet is that it is not afflicting). So Jupiter is not strong, it is > an > > AFFLICTING 8th lord. This can't be good. > > > > I'll be the first to admit I have problems with this chart. > > > > Lila > > > > > **2009/7/18 **<lila** > > > * > > >> > > >> * ** * > > >> > > >> *> Very good, Rama, my notes are as below:* > > >> > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * * > > > > > >> * > > >> > > >> > " The weakness of Sun and the strong affliction to the > significator > > of > > >> profession, Saturn, is not conducive to a strong professional > life. " > > >> > > >> * > > >> * -- You'd think so but it was successful. No criminal record > > although > > >> it > > >> does seem a possibility jyotish wise doesn't it?* > > >> > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * * > > > * > > > * > > > * * > > > * > > > * > > > * * > > > > > >> * > > >> > > >> " Given the weakness of so many planets, I find it hard to believe > > that > > >> he > > >> > was> reknowned - but the strength of the MMP can potentially > > indicate > > >> a > > >> life of> ill-repute. " > > >> > > >> * > > >> * -- Yes, I'd agree with your take, but did not turn out to be so. > > >> Reknown > > >> and good repute. > > >> * > > >> > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > > > > > > > As an after the fact analysis, I downplayed the importance of the > > strength > > > of the 8th lord of easy gains in the house of status without any > > > afflictions > > > involved. That strength, especially because the strong lord is > > Jupiter, > > > seems to have highlighted the status and the reknown achieved. > > > > > > Again, good learning since this is something I missed while doing > the > > > first > > > round. > > > > > > thanks, > > > Rama > > > > > >> by a good cause. > > >> Y! 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Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Hello Lila, I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. - lila Monday, July 27, 2009 5:53 AM Armstrong questions for Prof. > Thank you, my Dear Professor. 1) Could Armstrong's severe affliction of 12House RA to 3Lord Moon -- seated in the 8th, weak and at 2degrees -- involve him in deceptive initiatives? (You told me once that RA afflicting 3L makes one a perpetrator) RAHU HAS MANY SIGNIFICATIONS. IT IS IMAGINATIVE, RISK TAKING, SEEKING PLEASURE IN EXCITING THINGS, MANIPULATOR, PERPETRATOR, DECEPTOR, ETC. ETC. ALL THE ACTS OF RAHU DO NOT COME TO FORE. 2)Whatever is in the chart will manifest. I understand 8L in the second gives him huge easy legacy. But where do we see the effect of 8th Lord JU's affliction to 10L SA in the 8th? JUPITER'S INFLUENCE HERE IS OF OBSTRUCTIONS WHICH HE MIGHT HAVE FACED IN HIS CAREER. 3)Would this 10L affliction involve him in hidden ventures and cover ups? POSSIBLE. Thank you so much. Lila Hello Lila, > > I cannot add comments for your first question. > > A strong 8th lord acts like a strong Sun and gives monumental legacies > which are much more than the efforts / work of the concerned person. The > question of monumental legacies was discussed in the recent SA > astrologers' conference, as well. > > The weak planets like his third lord under the influence of Rahu bring in > involvements. And if there are strong planets like Jupiter in his case to > support, one has a good chance to achieve success, as well. > > Neil Armstrong got the fame but there must be thousands who worked for the > success of the mission. > > > www.YourNetAstrologer.com > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). > Phones: 91 124 2219240 > Mobile phone: 91 9811016333 > > - > lila > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:25 AM > Armstrong research and 3 questions for Prof. > > > Dear Group, > > To begin this research, I wrote to the county of Wapakoneta for his > birth > certificate. My heart fell upon receiving the verified TOB. It does not > look like someone with a strong career. > > I've heard that 15% of all Americans believe we never landed on the > Moon. > Gallop poll, no less. I took it to be a theory propagated by " weirdo's " . > But after reading both sides of the equation I began to wonder. > > I was surprised to find medical doctors who believe he never landed on > the > Moon. They proposed we DID go to the Moon, but sent someone else, > keeping > the military hero/astronaut Neil Armstrong on the ground on a movie set, > so that even if we did not return, we could still puff our chests > claiming > we did. There are many other theories. > > I can Monday morning quarterback this chart like everyone else. I did > the > math and it seems about 3.6% of all people would have a strong 8th lord > in > the 2L. I can see what the Professor tells us about his strong 8L. Even > so, I would never be able to see this chart as one of the most famous > and > capable men who ever walked the face of the planet earth - or any other > planet for that matter. > > I am hoping the Professor will " append as below " as he says, and help me > with three sincere questions: > > 1) Whether or not the Professor thinks Neil Armstrong actually landed on > the Moon. Is there a chance that given this chart he did not do so, and > history is different than we think? > > 2)I have asked Dr. Professor and Space flights and astronaut as career > is > THIRD HOUSE. His third house lord MO is useless, 2 degrees afflicted, in > the 8th. To quote the Professor on this chart: strength of the Moon does > not enhance appreciably with good placement of Jupiter. How can this man > be a capable astronaut? (I am not speaking of an easy gain. He actually > was a very capable astronaut.) > > 3) Professor has told me that when 8L and 10L mutually aspect each > other, > 8L wins. How was his career (farmer, professor, not just astronaut) able > to succeed? His appointments may have been bestowed (8th house easy > gain) > but his continued success in all endeavors, from what I've read was > earned. This does not look a like a career success chart. > > I hope everyone can understand why I still have questions. > > Thank you so very much for your patience. > > Lila > > Hello Lila, > > > > He has only Jupiter well placed which rules easy gains and legacies. > > > > The close influence of Rahu on the third lord makes the person > > adventurous. The placement of the Sun in the third house brings > courage. > > The close influence of the fifth lord on the tenth house brings the > > element of intellect. All these factors would not have worked for him > in > > the absence of the placement of Jupiter in the house of status. The > good > > placement of eighth lord in the house of status brings easy gains with > > small or little efforts. > > > > > > > > - > > lila > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:56 PM > > Re: Chart for Group > > > > > > Rama, > > > > I beg to differ for a moment. His 8th lord is exactly afflicting the > > 10th > > lord, Saturn, lord of profession, PLUS lord of profession is in the > 8th > > house, which makes this a SPECIAL AFFLICTION. Can't be good. > > > > Dr. Professor has told us that Sun can help profession for Taureans. > > However he has also instructed us that no planet can be stronger that > > its > > depositor. Sun's depositor for Mr. Armstrong is Moon - weak, seated in > > the > > 8th, 100% afflicted by RA from the 12th. This also is a special > > affliction, I believe, and not good. > > > > While JU is not afflicted, it is AFFLICTING (one of the tests of a > > strong > > planet is that it is not afflicting). So Jupiter is not strong, it is > an > > AFFLICTING 8th lord. This can't be good. > > > > I'll be the first to admit I have problems with this chart. > > > > Lila > > > > > **2009/7/18 **<lila** > > > * > > >> > > >> * ** * > > >> > > >> *> Very good, Rama, my notes are as below:* > > >> > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * * > > > > > >> * > > >> > > >> > " The weakness of Sun and the strong affliction to the > significator > > of > > >> profession, Saturn, is not conducive to a strong professional > life. " > > >> > > >> * > > >> * -- You'd think so but it was successful. No criminal record > > although > > >> it > > >> does seem a possibility jyotish wise doesn't it?* > > >> > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * * > > > * > > > * > > > * * > > > * > > > * > > > * * > > > > > >> * > > >> > > >> " Given the weakness of so many planets, I find it hard to believe > > that > > >> he > > >> > was> reknowned - but the strength of the MMP can potentially > > indicate > > >> a > > >> life of> ill-repute. " > > >> > > >> * > > >> * -- Yes, I'd agree with your take, but did not turn out to be so. > > >> Reknown > > >> and good repute. > > >> * > > >> > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > * > > > > > > > > > As an after the fact analysis, I downplayed the importance of the > > strength > > > of the 8th lord of easy gains in the house of status without any > > > afflictions > > > involved. That strength, especially because the strong lord is > > Jupiter, > > > seems to have highlighted the status and the reknown achieved. > > > > > > Again, good learning since this is something I missed while doing > the > > > first > > > round. > > > > > > thanks, > > > Rama > > > > > >> by a good cause. > > >> Y! 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Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 >Professor, Thank you so much! He certainly did take risks. Big ones. From what I have read, there were no obstructions in his career. NONE! I do not know how to account for the total lack of obstructions. Where is the 8L/10L manifestation? If we follow SA rules, it has to be there. I'm stumped. Lila Hello Lila, > > I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. > > > > - > lila > > Monday, July 27, 2009 5:53 AM > Armstrong questions for Prof. > > > > Thank you, my Dear Professor. > > 1) Could Armstrong's severe affliction of 12House RA to 3Lord Moon -- > seated in the 8th, weak and at 2degrees -- involve him in deceptive > initiatives? (You told me once that RA afflicting 3L makes one a > perpetrator) > RAHU HAS MANY SIGNIFICATIONS. IT IS IMAGINATIVE, RISK TAKING, SEEKING > PLEASURE IN EXCITING THINGS, MANIPULATOR, PERPETRATOR, DECEPTOR, ETC. > ETC. ALL THE ACTS OF RAHU DO NOT COME TO FORE. > 2)Whatever is in the chart will manifest. I understand 8L in the second > gives him huge easy legacy. But where do we see the effect of 8th Lord > JU's affliction to 10L SA in the 8th? > > > JUPITER'S INFLUENCE HERE IS OF OBSTRUCTIONS WHICH HE MIGHT HAVE FACED IN > HIS CAREER. > > > 3)Would this 10L affliction involve him in hidden ventures and cover > ups? > > POSSIBLE. > > Thank you so much. > > Lila > > Hello Lila, > > > > I cannot add comments for your first question. > > > > A strong 8th lord acts like a strong Sun and gives monumental legacies > > which are much more than the efforts / work of the concerned person. > The > > question of monumental legacies was discussed in the recent SA > > astrologers' conference, as well. > > > > The weak planets like his third lord under the influence of Rahu bring > in > > involvements. And if there are strong planets like Jupiter in his case > to > > support, one has a good chance to achieve success, as well. > > > > Neil Armstrong got the fame but there must be thousands who worked for > the > > success of the mission. > > > > > > www.YourNetAstrologer.com > > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). > > Phones: 91 124 2219240 > > Mobile phone: 91 9811016333 > > > > - > > lila > > > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:25 AM > > Armstrong research and 3 questions for Prof. > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > To begin this research, I wrote to the county of Wapakoneta for his > > birth > > certificate. My heart fell upon receiving the verified TOB. It does > not > > look like someone with a strong career. > > > > I've heard that 15% of all Americans believe we never landed on the > > Moon. > > Gallop poll, no less. I took it to be a theory propagated by > " weirdo's " . > > But after reading both sides of the equation I began to wonder. > > > > I was surprised to find medical doctors who believe he never landed on > > the > > Moon. They proposed we DID go to the Moon, but sent someone else, > > keeping > > the military hero/astronaut Neil Armstrong on the ground on a movie > set, > > so that even if we did not return, we could still puff our chests > > claiming > > we did. There are many other theories. > > > > I can Monday morning quarterback this chart like everyone else. I did > > the > > math and it seems about 3.6% of all people would have a strong 8th > lord > > in > > the 2L. I can see what the Professor tells us about his strong 8L. > Even > > so, I would never be able to see this chart as one of the most famous > > and > > capable men who ever walked the face of the planet earth - or any > other > > planet for that matter. > > > > I am hoping the Professor will " append as below " as he says, and help > me > > with three sincere questions: > > > > 1) Whether or not the Professor thinks Neil Armstrong actually landed > on > > the Moon. Is there a chance that given this chart he did not do so, > and > > history is different than we think? > > > > 2)I have asked Dr. Professor and Space flights and astronaut as career > > is > > THIRD HOUSE. His third house lord MO is useless, 2 degrees afflicted, > in > > the 8th. To quote the Professor on this chart: strength of the Moon > does > > not enhance appreciably with good placement of Jupiter. How can this > man > > be a capable astronaut? (I am not speaking of an easy gain. He > actually > > was a very capable astronaut.) > > > > 3) Professor has told me that when 8L and 10L mutually aspect each > > other, > > 8L wins. How was his career (farmer, professor, not just astronaut) > able > > to succeed? His appointments may have been bestowed (8th house easy > > gain) > > but his continued success in all endeavors, from what I've read was > > earned. This does not look a like a career success chart. > > > > I hope everyone can understand why I still have questions. > > > > Thank you so very much for your patience. > > > > Lila > > > > Hello Lila, > > > > > > He has only Jupiter well placed which rules easy gains and legacies. > > > > > > The close influence of Rahu on the third lord makes the person > > > adventurous. The placement of the Sun in the third house brings > > courage. > > > The close influence of the fifth lord on the tenth house brings the > > > element of intellect. All these factors would not have worked for > him > > in > > > the absence of the placement of Jupiter in the house of status. The > > good > > > placement of eighth lord in the house of status brings easy gains > with > > > small or little efforts. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > lila > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:56 PM > > > Re: Chart for Group > > > > > > > > > Rama, > > > > > > I beg to differ for a moment. His 8th lord is exactly afflicting the > > > 10th > > > lord, Saturn, lord of profession, PLUS lord of profession is in the > > 8th > > > house, which makes this a SPECIAL AFFLICTION. Can't be good. > > > > > > Dr. Professor has told us that Sun can help profession for Taureans. > > > However he has also instructed us that no planet can be stronger > that > > > its > > > depositor. Sun's depositor for Mr. Armstrong is Moon - weak, seated > in > > > the > > > 8th, 100% afflicted by RA from the 12th. This also is a special > > > affliction, I believe, and not good. > > > > > > While JU is not afflicted, it is AFFLICTING (one of the tests of a > > > strong > > > planet is that it is not afflicting). So Jupiter is not strong, it > is > > an > > > AFFLICTING 8th lord. This can't be good. > > > > > > I'll be the first to admit I have problems with this chart. > > > > > > Lila > > > > > > > **2009/7/18 **<lila** > > > > * > > > >> > > > >> * ** * > > > >> > > > >> *> Very good, Rama, my notes are as below:* > > > >> > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * * > > > > > > > >> * > > > >> > > > >> > " The weakness of Sun and the strong affliction to the > > significator > > > of > > > >> profession, Saturn, is not conducive to a strong professional > > life. " > > > >> > > > >> * > > > >> * -- You'd think so but it was successful. No criminal record > > > although > > > >> it > > > >> does seem a possibility jyotish wise doesn't it?* > > > >> > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * * > > > > > > > >> * > > > >> > > > >> " Given the weakness of so many planets, I find it hard to believe > > > that > > > >> he > > > >> > was> reknowned - but the strength of the MMP can potentially > > > indicate > > > >> a > > > >> life of> ill-repute. " > > > >> > > > >> * > > > >> * -- Yes, I'd agree with your take, but did not turn out to be > so. > > > >> Reknown > > > >> and good repute. > > > >> * > > > >> > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > As an after the fact analysis, I downplayed the importance of the > > > strength > > > > of the 8th lord of easy gains in the house of status without any > > > > afflictions > > > > involved. That strength, especially because the strong lord is > > > Jupiter, > > > > seems to have highlighted the status and the reknown achieved. > > > > > > > > Again, good learning since this is something I missed while doing > > the > > > > first > > > > round. > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Rama > > > > > > > >> by a good cause. > > > >> Y! 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Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Lila, I began analyzing this in more detail over the weekend but could not get enough time. However, one point that I found very interesting when I started the analysis. If you notice, he was running his Sa sub-period when he was a pilot in Korea and encountered near death situations multiple times. thanks, Rama 2009/7/27 <lila > > > >Professor, > > Thank you so much! He certainly did take risks. Big ones. > > From what I have read, there were no obstructions in his career. NONE! I > do not know how to account for the total lack of obstructions. Where is > the 8L/10L manifestation? If we follow SA rules, it has to be there. I'm > stumped. > > Lila > > > Hello Lila, > > > > I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. > > > > > > > > - > > lila <lila%40lisco.com> > > <%40> > > Monday, July 27, 2009 5:53 AM > > Armstrong questions for Prof. > > > > > > > Thank you, my Dear Professor. > > > > 1) Could Armstrong's severe affliction of 12House RA to 3Lord Moon -- > > seated in the 8th, weak and at 2degrees -- involve him in deceptive > > initiatives? (You told me once that RA afflicting 3L makes one a > > perpetrator) > > RAHU HAS MANY SIGNIFICATIONS. IT IS IMAGINATIVE, RISK TAKING, SEEKING > > PLEASURE IN EXCITING THINGS, MANIPULATOR, PERPETRATOR, DECEPTOR, ETC. > > ETC. ALL THE ACTS OF RAHU DO NOT COME TO FORE. > > 2)Whatever is in the chart will manifest. I understand 8L in the second > > gives him huge easy legacy. But where do we see the effect of 8th Lord > > JU's affliction to 10L SA in the 8th? > > > > > > JUPITER'S INFLUENCE HERE IS OF OBSTRUCTIONS WHICH HE MIGHT HAVE FACED IN > > HIS CAREER. > > > > > > 3)Would this 10L affliction involve him in hidden ventures and cover > > ups? > > > > POSSIBLE. > > > > Thank you so much. > > > > Lila > > > > Hello Lila, > > > > > > I cannot add comments for your first question. > > > > > > A strong 8th lord acts like a strong Sun and gives monumental legacies > > > which are much more than the efforts / work of the concerned person. > > The > > > question of monumental legacies was discussed in the recent SA > > > astrologers' conference, as well. > > > > > > The weak planets like his third lord under the influence of Rahu bring > > in > > > involvements. And if there are strong planets like Jupiter in his case > > to > > > support, one has a good chance to achieve success, as well. > > > > > > Neil Armstrong got the fame but there must be thousands who worked for > > the > > > success of the mission. > > > > > > > > > www.YourNetAstrologer.com > > > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). > > > Phones: 91 124 2219240 > > > Mobile phone: 91 9811016333 > > > > > > - > > > lila <lila%40lisco.com> > > > <%40> > > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:25 AM > > > Armstrong research and 3 questions for Prof. > > > > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > > > To begin this research, I wrote to the county of Wapakoneta for his > > > birth > > > certificate. My heart fell upon receiving the verified TOB. It does > > not > > > look like someone with a strong career. > > > > > > I've heard that 15% of all Americans believe we never landed on the > > > Moon. > > > Gallop poll, no less. I took it to be a theory propagated by > > " weirdo's " . > > > But after reading both sides of the equation I began to wonder. > > > > > > I was surprised to find medical doctors who believe he never landed on > > > the > > > Moon. They proposed we DID go to the Moon, but sent someone else, > > > keeping > > > the military hero/astronaut Neil Armstrong on the ground on a movie > > set, > > > so that even if we did not return, we could still puff our chests > > > claiming > > > we did. There are many other theories. > > > > > > I can Monday morning quarterback this chart like everyone else. I did > > > the > > > math and it seems about 3.6% of all people would have a strong 8th > > lord > > > in > > > the 2L. I can see what the Professor tells us about his strong 8L. > > Even > > > so, I would never be able to see this chart as one of the most famous > > > and > > > capable men who ever walked the face of the planet earth - or any > > other > > > planet for that matter. > > > > > > I am hoping the Professor will " append as below " as he says, and help > > me > > > with three sincere questions: > > > > > > 1) Whether or not the Professor thinks Neil Armstrong actually landed > > on > > > the Moon. Is there a chance that given this chart he did not do so, > > and > > > history is different than we think? > > > > > > 2)I have asked Dr. Professor and Space flights and astronaut as career > > > is > > > THIRD HOUSE. His third house lord MO is useless, 2 degrees afflicted, > > in > > > the 8th. To quote the Professor on this chart: strength of the Moon > > does > > > not enhance appreciably with good placement of Jupiter. How can this > > man > > > be a capable astronaut? (I am not speaking of an easy gain. He > > actually > > > was a very capable astronaut.) > > > > > > 3) Professor has told me that when 8L and 10L mutually aspect each > > > other, > > > 8L wins. How was his career (farmer, professor, not just astronaut) > > able > > > to succeed? His appointments may have been bestowed (8th house easy > > > gain) > > > but his continued success in all endeavors, from what I've read was > > > earned. This does not look a like a career success chart. > > > > > > I hope everyone can understand why I still have questions. > > > > > > Thank you so very much for your patience. > > > > > > Lila > > > > > > Hello Lila, > > > > > > > > He has only Jupiter well placed which rules easy gains and legacies. > > > > > > > > The close influence of Rahu on the third lord makes the person > > > > adventurous. The placement of the Sun in the third house brings > > > courage. > > > > The close influence of the fifth lord on the tenth house brings the > > > > element of intellect. All these factors would not have worked for > > him > > > in > > > > the absence of the placement of Jupiter in the house of status. The > > > good > > > > placement of eighth lord in the house of status brings easy gains > > with > > > > small or little efforts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > lila <lila%40lisco.com> > > > > <%40> > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:56 PM > > > > Re: Chart for Group > > > > > > > > > > > > Rama, > > > > > > > > I beg to differ for a moment. His 8th lord is exactly afflicting the > > > > 10th > > > > lord, Saturn, lord of profession, PLUS lord of profession is in the > > > 8th > > > > house, which makes this a SPECIAL AFFLICTION. Can't be good. > > > > > > > > Dr. Professor has told us that Sun can help profession for Taureans. > > > > However he has also instructed us that no planet can be stronger > > that > > > > its > > > > depositor. Sun's depositor for Mr. Armstrong is Moon - weak, seated > > in > > > > the > > > > 8th, 100% afflicted by RA from the 12th. This also is a special > > > > affliction, I believe, and not good. > > > > > > > > While JU is not afflicted, it is AFFLICTING (one of the tests of a > > > > strong > > > > planet is that it is not afflicting). So Jupiter is not strong, it > > is > > > an > > > > AFFLICTING 8th lord. This can't be good. > > > > > > > > I'll be the first to admit I have problems with this chart. > > > > > > > > Lila > > > > > > > > > **2009/7/18 **<lila <lila%40lisco.com>>** > > > > > * > > > > >> > > > > >> * ** * > > > > >> > > > > >> *> Very good, Rama, my notes are as below:* > > > > >> > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * * > > > > > > > > > >> * > > > > >> > > > > >> > " The weakness of Sun and the strong affliction to the > > > significator > > > > of > > > > >> profession, Saturn, is not conducive to a strong professional > > > life. " > > > > >> > > > > >> * > > > > >> * -- You'd think so but it was successful. No criminal record > > > > although > > > > >> it > > > > >> does seem a possibility jyotish wise doesn't it?* > > > > >> > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * * > > > > > > > > > >> * > > > > >> > > > > >> " Given the weakness of so many planets, I find it hard to believe > > > > that > > > > >> he > > > > >> > was> reknowned - but the strength of the MMP can potentially > > > > indicate > > > > >> a > > > > >> life of> ill-repute. " > > > > >> > > > > >> * > > > > >> * -- Yes, I'd agree with your take, but did not turn out to be > > so. > > > > >> Reknown > > > > >> and good repute. > > > > >> * > > > > >> > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As an after the fact analysis, I downplayed the importance of the > > > > strength > > > > > of the 8th lord of easy gains in the house of status without any > > > > > afflictions > > > > > involved. That strength, especially because the strong lord is > > > > Jupiter, > > > > > seems to have highlighted the status and the reknown achieved. > > > > > > > > > > Again, good learning since this is something I missed while doing > > > the > > > > > first > > > > > round. > > > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > Rama > > > > > > > > > >> by a good cause. > > > > >> Y! 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Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Yes, he probably had a few of them. I was thinking about that myself. 8L/10L could be death or near death in career. But I'd still expect to see a lot more obstructions or something, as RA casts its glance from the 12th and the aspect is life long, very strong, and not a transit. He may be near ending his life. Aside from his obvious age, he goes into SA maha dasha in 2013. Lila Lila, > I began analyzing this in more detail over the weekend but could not get > enough time. However, one point that I found very interesting when I > started > the analysis. > > If you notice, he was running his Sa sub-period when he was a pilot in > Korea and encountered near death situations multiple times. > > thanks, > Rama > > > 2009/7/27 <lila > >> >> >> >Professor, >> >> Thank you so much! He certainly did take risks. Big ones. >> >> From what I have read, there were no obstructions in his career. NONE! I >> do not know how to account for the total lack of obstructions. Where is >> the 8L/10L manifestation? If we follow SA rules, it has to be there. I'm >> stumped. >> >> Lila >> >> >> Hello Lila, >> > >> > I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > lila <lila%40lisco.com> >> > <%40> >> > Monday, July 27, 2009 5:53 AM >> > Armstrong questions for Prof. >> > >> > >> > > Thank you, my Dear Professor. >> > >> > 1) Could Armstrong's severe affliction of 12House RA to 3Lord Moon -- >> > seated in the 8th, weak and at 2degrees -- involve him in deceptive >> > initiatives? (You told me once that RA afflicting 3L makes one a >> > perpetrator) >> > RAHU HAS MANY SIGNIFICATIONS. IT IS IMAGINATIVE, RISK TAKING, SEEKING >> > PLEASURE IN EXCITING THINGS, MANIPULATOR, PERPETRATOR, DECEPTOR, ETC. >> > ETC. ALL THE ACTS OF RAHU DO NOT COME TO FORE. >> > 2)Whatever is in the chart will manifest. I understand 8L in the >> second >> > gives him huge easy legacy. But where do we see the effect of 8th Lord >> > JU's affliction to 10L SA in the 8th? >> > >> > >> > JUPITER'S INFLUENCE HERE IS OF OBSTRUCTIONS WHICH HE MIGHT HAVE FACED >> IN >> > HIS CAREER. >> > >> > >> > 3)Would this 10L affliction involve him in hidden ventures and cover >> > ups? >> > >> > POSSIBLE. >> > >> > Thank you so much. >> > >> > Lila >> > >> > Hello Lila, >> > > >> > > I cannot add comments for your first question. >> > > >> > > A strong 8th lord acts like a strong Sun and gives monumental >> legacies >> > > which are much more than the efforts / work of the concerned person. >> > The >> > > question of monumental legacies was discussed in the recent SA >> > > astrologers' conference, as well. >> > > >> > > The weak planets like his third lord under the influence of Rahu >> bring >> > in >> > > involvements. And if there are strong planets like Jupiter in his >> case >> > to >> > > support, one has a good chance to achieve success, as well. >> > > >> > > Neil Armstrong got the fame but there must be thousands who worked >> for >> > the >> > > success of the mission. >> > > >> > > >> > > www.YourNetAstrologer.com >> > > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). >> > > Phones: 91 124 2219240 >> > > Mobile phone: 91 9811016333 >> > > >> > > - >> > > lila <lila%40lisco.com> >> > > <%40> >> > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:25 AM >> > > Armstrong research and 3 questions for Prof. >> > > >> > > >> > > Dear Group, >> > > >> > > To begin this research, I wrote to the county of Wapakoneta for his >> > > birth >> > > certificate. My heart fell upon receiving the verified TOB. It does >> > not >> > > look like someone with a strong career. >> > > >> > > I've heard that 15% of all Americans believe we never landed on the >> > > Moon. >> > > Gallop poll, no less. I took it to be a theory propagated by >> > " weirdo's " . >> > > But after reading both sides of the equation I began to wonder. >> > > >> > > I was surprised to find medical doctors who believe he never landed >> on >> > > the >> > > Moon. They proposed we DID go to the Moon, but sent someone else, >> > > keeping >> > > the military hero/astronaut Neil Armstrong on the ground on a movie >> > set, >> > > so that even if we did not return, we could still puff our chests >> > > claiming >> > > we did. There are many other theories. >> > > >> > > I can Monday morning quarterback this chart like everyone else. I >> did >> > > the >> > > math and it seems about 3.6% of all people would have a strong 8th >> > lord >> > > in >> > > the 2L. I can see what the Professor tells us about his strong 8L. >> > Even >> > > so, I would never be able to see this chart as one of the most >> famous >> > > and >> > > capable men who ever walked the face of the planet earth - or any >> > other >> > > planet for that matter. >> > > >> > > I am hoping the Professor will " append as below " as he says, and >> help >> > me >> > > with three sincere questions: >> > > >> > > 1) Whether or not the Professor thinks Neil Armstrong actually >> landed >> > on >> > > the Moon. Is there a chance that given this chart he did not do so, >> > and >> > > history is different than we think? >> > > >> > > 2)I have asked Dr. Professor and Space flights and astronaut as >> career >> > > is >> > > THIRD HOUSE. His third house lord MO is useless, 2 degrees >> afflicted, >> > in >> > > the 8th. To quote the Professor on this chart: strength of the Moon >> > does >> > > not enhance appreciably with good placement of Jupiter. How can this >> > man >> > > be a capable astronaut? (I am not speaking of an easy gain. He >> > actually >> > > was a very capable astronaut.) >> > > >> > > 3) Professor has told me that when 8L and 10L mutually aspect each >> > > other, >> > > 8L wins. How was his career (farmer, professor, not just astronaut) >> > able >> > > to succeed? His appointments may have been bestowed (8th house easy >> > > gain) >> > > but his continued success in all endeavors, from what I've read was >> > > earned. This does not look a like a career success chart. >> > > >> > > I hope everyone can understand why I still have questions. >> > > >> > > Thank you so very much for your patience. >> > > >> > > Lila >> > > >> > > Hello Lila, >> > > > >> > > > He has only Jupiter well placed which rules easy gains and >> legacies. >> > > > >> > > > The close influence of Rahu on the third lord makes the person >> > > > adventurous. The placement of the Sun in the third house brings >> > > courage. >> > > > The close influence of the fifth lord on the tenth house brings >> the >> > > > element of intellect. All these factors would not have worked for >> > him >> > > in >> > > > the absence of the placement of Jupiter in the house of status. >> The >> > > good >> > > > placement of eighth lord in the house of status brings easy gains >> > with >> > > > small or little efforts. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > - >> > > > lila <lila%40lisco.com> >> > > > <%40> >> > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:56 PM >> > > > Re: Chart for Group >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Rama, >> > > > >> > > > I beg to differ for a moment. His 8th lord is exactly afflicting >> the >> > > > 10th >> > > > lord, Saturn, lord of profession, PLUS lord of profession is in >> the >> > > 8th >> > > > house, which makes this a SPECIAL AFFLICTION. Can't be good. >> > > > >> > > > Dr. Professor has told us that Sun can help profession for >> Taureans. >> > > > However he has also instructed us that no planet can be stronger >> > that >> > > > its >> > > > depositor. Sun's depositor for Mr. Armstrong is Moon - weak, >> seated >> > in >> > > > the >> > > > 8th, 100% afflicted by RA from the 12th. This also is a special >> > > > affliction, I believe, and not good. >> > > > >> > > > While JU is not afflicted, it is AFFLICTING (one of the tests of a >> > > > strong >> > > > planet is that it is not afflicting). So Jupiter is not strong, it >> > is >> > > an >> > > > AFFLICTING 8th lord. This can't be good. >> > > > >> > > > I'll be the first to admit I have problems with this chart. >> > > > >> > > > Lila >> > > > >> > > > > **2009/7/18 **<lila <lila%40lisco.com>>** >> > > > > * >> > > > >> >> > > > >> * ** * >> > > > >> >> > > > >> *> Very good, Rama, my notes are as below:* >> > > > >> >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * * >> > > > > >> > > > >> * >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > " The weakness of Sun and the strong affliction to the >> > > significator >> > > > of >> > > > >> profession, Saturn, is not conducive to a strong professional >> > > life. " >> > > > >> >> > > > >> * >> > > > >> * -- You'd think so but it was successful. No criminal record >> > > > although >> > > > >> it >> > > > >> does seem a possibility jyotish wise doesn't it?* >> > > > >> >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * * >> > > > > >> > > > >> * >> > > > >> >> > > > >> " Given the weakness of so many planets, I find it hard to >> believe >> > > > that >> > > > >> he >> > > > >> > was> reknowned - but the strength of the MMP can potentially >> > > > indicate >> > > > >> a >> > > > >> life of> ill-repute. " >> > > > >> >> > > > >> * >> > > > >> * -- Yes, I'd agree with your take, but did not turn out to be >> > so. >> > > > >> Reknown >> > > > >> and good repute. >> > > > >> * >> > > > >> >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > As an after the fact analysis, I downplayed the importance of >> the >> > > > strength >> > > > > of the 8th lord of easy gains in the house of status without any >> > > > > afflictions >> > > > > involved. That strength, especially because the strong lord is >> > > > Jupiter, >> > > > > seems to have highlighted the status and the reknown achieved. >> > > > > >> > > > > Again, good learning since this is something I missed while >> doing >> > > the >> > > > > first >> > > > > round. >> > > > > >> > > > > thanks, >> > > > > Rama >> > > > > >> > > > >> by a good cause. >> > > > >> Y! Toolbar >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Get it >> > > > >> Free!< >> http://us.lrd./_ylc=X3oDMTJwZms5bmZqBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzIEZ3JwSWQDMTU\ 0NzEyMjIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjkwBHNlYwNuY21vZARzbGsDdG9vbGJhcgRzdGltZQMxMjQ3ODY\ xNzQ4;_ylg=1/SIG=11c6dvmk9/**http%3A//toolbar./%3F.cpdl=ygrps >> > >> > > > >> >> > > > >> easy 1-click access >> > > > >> >> > > > >> to your groups. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Start a >> > > > >> group< >> /start;_ylc=X3oDMTJwZ2kxMGJlBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BF9wAzMEZ3JwS\ WQDMTU0NzEyMjIEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDgyNjkwBHNlYwNuY21vZARzbGsDZ3JvdXBzMgRzdGltZQMxM\ jQ3ODYxNzQ4 >> > >> > > > >> >> > > > >> in 3 easy steps. >> > > > >> >> > > > >> Connect with others. >> > > > >> . >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Dear Lila Obstructions are related to his change in career. Regards Sujit -- - lila Monday, July 27, 2009 8:56 AM Re: Armstrong questions for Prof. >Professor, Thank you so much! He certainly did take risks. Big ones. From what I have read, there were no obstructions in his career. NONE! I do not know how to account for the total lack of obstructions. Where is the 8L/10L manifestation? If we follow SA rules, it has to be there. I'm stumped. Lila Hello Lila, > > I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. > > > > - > lila > > Monday, July 27, 2009 5:53 AM > Armstrong questions for Prof. > > > > Thank you, my Dear Professor. > > 1) Could Armstrong's severe affliction of 12House RA to 3Lord Moon -- > seated in the 8th, weak and at 2degrees -- involve him in deceptive > initiatives? (You told me once that RA afflicting 3L makes one a > perpetrator) > RAHU HAS MANY SIGNIFICATIONS. IT IS IMAGINATIVE, RISK TAKING, SEEKING > PLEASURE IN EXCITING THINGS, MANIPULATOR, PERPETRATOR, DECEPTOR, ETC. > ETC. ALL THE ACTS OF RAHU DO NOT COME TO FORE. > 2)Whatever is in the chart will manifest. I understand 8L in the second > gives him huge easy legacy. But where do we see the effect of 8th Lord > JU's affliction to 10L SA in the 8th? > > > JUPITER'S INFLUENCE HERE IS OF OBSTRUCTIONS WHICH HE MIGHT HAVE FACED IN > HIS CAREER. > > > 3)Would this 10L affliction involve him in hidden ventures and cover > ups? > > POSSIBLE. > > Thank you so much. > > Lila > > Hello Lila, > > > > I cannot add comments for your first question. > > > > A strong 8th lord acts like a strong Sun and gives monumental legacies > > which are much more than the efforts / work of the concerned person. > The > > question of monumental legacies was discussed in the recent SA > > astrologers' conference, as well. > > > > The weak planets like his third lord under the influence of Rahu bring > in > > involvements. And if there are strong planets like Jupiter in his case > to > > support, one has a good chance to achieve success, as well. > > > > Neil Armstrong got the fame but there must be thousands who worked for > the > > success of the mission. > > > > > > www.YourNetAstrologer.com > > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). > > Phones: 91 124 2219240 > > Mobile phone: 91 9811016333 > > > > - > > lila > > > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:25 AM > > Armstrong research and 3 questions for Prof. > > > > > > Dear Group, > > > > To begin this research, I wrote to the county of Wapakoneta for his > > birth > > certificate. My heart fell upon receiving the verified TOB. It does > not > > look like someone with a strong career. > > > > I've heard that 15% of all Americans believe we never landed on the > > Moon. > > Gallop poll, no less. I took it to be a theory propagated by > " weirdo's " . > > But after reading both sides of the equation I began to wonder. > > > > I was surprised to find medical doctors who believe he never landed on > > the > > Moon. They proposed we DID go to the Moon, but sent someone else, > > keeping > > the military hero/astronaut Neil Armstrong on the ground on a movie > set, > > so that even if we did not return, we could still puff our chests > > claiming > > we did. There are many other theories. > > > > I can Monday morning quarterback this chart like everyone else. I did > > the > > math and it seems about 3.6% of all people would have a strong 8th > lord > > in > > the 2L. I can see what the Professor tells us about his strong 8L. > Even > > so, I would never be able to see this chart as one of the most famous > > and > > capable men who ever walked the face of the planet earth - or any > other > > planet for that matter. > > > > I am hoping the Professor will " append as below " as he says, and help > me > > with three sincere questions: > > > > 1) Whether or not the Professor thinks Neil Armstrong actually landed > on > > the Moon. Is there a chance that given this chart he did not do so, > and > > history is different than we think? > > > > 2)I have asked Dr. Professor and Space flights and astronaut as career > > is > > THIRD HOUSE. His third house lord MO is useless, 2 degrees afflicted, > in > > the 8th. To quote the Professor on this chart: strength of the Moon > does > > not enhance appreciably with good placement of Jupiter. How can this > man > > be a capable astronaut? (I am not speaking of an easy gain. He > actually > > was a very capable astronaut.) > > > > 3) Professor has told me that when 8L and 10L mutually aspect each > > other, > > 8L wins. How was his career (farmer, professor, not just astronaut) > able > > to succeed? His appointments may have been bestowed (8th house easy > > gain) > > but his continued success in all endeavors, from what I've read was > > earned. This does not look a like a career success chart. > > > > I hope everyone can understand why I still have questions. > > > > Thank you so very much for your patience. > > > > Lila > > > > Hello Lila, > > > > > > He has only Jupiter well placed which rules easy gains and legacies. > > > > > > The close influence of Rahu on the third lord makes the person > > > adventurous. The placement of the Sun in the third house brings > > courage. > > > The close influence of the fifth lord on the tenth house brings the > > > element of intellect. All these factors would not have worked for > him > > in > > > the absence of the placement of Jupiter in the house of status. The > > good > > > placement of eighth lord in the house of status brings easy gains > with > > > small or little efforts. > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > lila > > > > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:56 PM > > > Re: Chart for Group > > > > > > > > > Rama, > > > > > > I beg to differ for a moment. His 8th lord is exactly afflicting the > > > 10th > > > lord, Saturn, lord of profession, PLUS lord of profession is in the > > 8th > > > house, which makes this a SPECIAL AFFLICTION. Can't be good. > > > > > > Dr. Professor has told us that Sun can help profession for Taureans. > > > However he has also instructed us that no planet can be stronger > that > > > its > > > depositor. Sun's depositor for Mr. Armstrong is Moon - weak, seated > in > > > the > > > 8th, 100% afflicted by RA from the 12th. This also is a special > > > affliction, I believe, and not good. > > > > > > While JU is not afflicted, it is AFFLICTING (one of the tests of a > > > strong > > > planet is that it is not afflicting). So Jupiter is not strong, it > is > > an > > > AFFLICTING 8th lord. This can't be good. > > > > > > I'll be the first to admit I have problems with this chart. > > > > > > Lila > > > > > > > **2009/7/18 **<lila** > > > > * > > > >> > > > >> * ** * > > > >> > > > >> *> Very good, Rama, my notes are as below:* > > > >> > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * * > > > > > > > >> * > > > >> > > > >> > " The weakness of Sun and the strong affliction to the > > significator > > > of > > > >> profession, Saturn, is not conducive to a strong professional > > life. " > > > >> > > > >> * > > > >> * -- You'd think so but it was successful. No criminal record > > > although > > > >> it > > > >> does seem a possibility jyotish wise doesn't it?* > > > >> > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * * > > > > > > > >> * > > > >> > > > >> " Given the weakness of so many planets, I find it hard to believe > > > that > > > >> he > > > >> > was> reknowned - but the strength of the MMP can potentially > > > indicate > > > >> a > > > >> life of> ill-repute. " > > > >> > > > >> * > > > >> * -- Yes, I'd agree with your take, but did not turn out to be > so. > > > >> Reknown > > > >> and good repute. > > > >> * > > > >> > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > * > > > > > > > > > > > > As an after the fact analysis, I downplayed the importance of the > > > strength > > > > of the 8th lord of easy gains in the house of status without any > > > > afflictions > > > > involved. That strength, especially because the strong lord is > > > Jupiter, > > > > seems to have highlighted the status and the reknown achieved. > > > > > > > > Again, good learning since this is something I missed while doing > > the > > > > first > > > > round. > > > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Rama > > > > > > > >> by a good cause. > > > >> Y! 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Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Hello Lila, He is famous but he is not really actively followed in media to give idea on all aspects of his life to know about obstructions and delays in career. As brought out by Rama, afflicted planets in the 8th house give incidents like threatening of life. - lila Monday, July 27, 2009 9:15 AM Re: Armstrong questions for Prof. Yes, he probably had a few of them. I was thinking about that myself. 8L/10L could be death or near death in career. But I'd still expect to see a lot more obstructions or something, as RA casts its glance from the 12th and the aspect is life long, very strong, and not a transit. He may be near ending his life. Aside from his obvious age, he goes into SA maha dasha in 2013. Lila Lila, > I began analyzing this in more detail over the weekend but could not get > enough time. However, one point that I found very interesting when I > started > the analysis. > > If you notice, he was running his Sa sub-period when he was a pilot in > Korea and encountered near death situations multiple times. > > thanks, > Rama > > > 2009/7/27 <lila > >> >> >> >Professor, >> >> Thank you so much! He certainly did take risks. Big ones. >> >> From what I have read, there were no obstructions in his career. NONE! I >> do not know how to account for the total lack of obstructions. Where is >> the 8L/10L manifestation? If we follow SA rules, it has to be there. I'm >> stumped. >> >> Lila >> >> >> Hello Lila, >> > >> > I add my replies to your questions in your message appended below. >> > >> > >> > >> > - >> > lila <lila%40lisco.com> >> > <%40> >> > Monday, July 27, 2009 5:53 AM >> > Armstrong questions for Prof. >> > >> > >> > > Thank you, my Dear Professor. >> > >> > 1) Could Armstrong's severe affliction of 12House RA to 3Lord Moon -- >> > seated in the 8th, weak and at 2degrees -- involve him in deceptive >> > initiatives? (You told me once that RA afflicting 3L makes one a >> > perpetrator) >> > RAHU HAS MANY SIGNIFICATIONS. IT IS IMAGINATIVE, RISK TAKING, SEEKING >> > PLEASURE IN EXCITING THINGS, MANIPULATOR, PERPETRATOR, DECEPTOR, ETC. >> > ETC. ALL THE ACTS OF RAHU DO NOT COME TO FORE. >> > 2)Whatever is in the chart will manifest. I understand 8L in the >> second >> > gives him huge easy legacy. But where do we see the effect of 8th Lord >> > JU's affliction to 10L SA in the 8th? >> > >> > >> > JUPITER'S INFLUENCE HERE IS OF OBSTRUCTIONS WHICH HE MIGHT HAVE FACED >> IN >> > HIS CAREER. >> > >> > >> > 3)Would this 10L affliction involve him in hidden ventures and cover >> > ups? >> > >> > POSSIBLE. >> > >> > Thank you so much. >> > >> > Lila >> > >> > Hello Lila, >> > > >> > > I cannot add comments for your first question. >> > > >> > > A strong 8th lord acts like a strong Sun and gives monumental >> legacies >> > > which are much more than the efforts / work of the concerned person. >> > The >> > > question of monumental legacies was discussed in the recent SA >> > > astrologers' conference, as well. >> > > >> > > The weak planets like his third lord under the influence of Rahu >> bring >> > in >> > > involvements. And if there are strong planets like Jupiter in his >> case >> > to >> > > support, one has a good chance to achieve success, as well. >> > > >> > > Neil Armstrong got the fame but there must be thousands who worked >> for >> > the >> > > success of the mission. >> > > >> > > >> > > www.YourNetAstrologer.com >> > > A-105, South City II, Gurgaon 122018-01, (India). >> > > Phones: 91 124 2219240 >> > > Mobile phone: 91 9811016333 >> > > >> > > - >> > > lila <lila%40lisco.com> >> > > <%40> >> > > Tuesday, July 21, 2009 6:25 AM >> > > Armstrong research and 3 questions for Prof. >> > > >> > > >> > > Dear Group, >> > > >> > > To begin this research, I wrote to the county of Wapakoneta for his >> > > birth >> > > certificate. My heart fell upon receiving the verified TOB. It does >> > not >> > > look like someone with a strong career. >> > > >> > > I've heard that 15% of all Americans believe we never landed on the >> > > Moon. >> > > Gallop poll, no less. I took it to be a theory propagated by >> > " weirdo's " . >> > > But after reading both sides of the equation I began to wonder. >> > > >> > > I was surprised to find medical doctors who believe he never landed >> on >> > > the >> > > Moon. They proposed we DID go to the Moon, but sent someone else, >> > > keeping >> > > the military hero/astronaut Neil Armstrong on the ground on a movie >> > set, >> > > so that even if we did not return, we could still puff our chests >> > > claiming >> > > we did. There are many other theories. >> > > >> > > I can Monday morning quarterback this chart like everyone else. I >> did >> > > the >> > > math and it seems about 3.6% of all people would have a strong 8th >> > lord >> > > in >> > > the 2L. I can see what the Professor tells us about his strong 8L. >> > Even >> > > so, I would never be able to see this chart as one of the most >> famous >> > > and >> > > capable men who ever walked the face of the planet earth - or any >> > other >> > > planet for that matter. >> > > >> > > I am hoping the Professor will " append as below " as he says, and >> help >> > me >> > > with three sincere questions: >> > > >> > > 1) Whether or not the Professor thinks Neil Armstrong actually >> landed >> > on >> > > the Moon. Is there a chance that given this chart he did not do so, >> > and >> > > history is different than we think? >> > > >> > > 2)I have asked Dr. Professor and Space flights and astronaut as >> career >> > > is >> > > THIRD HOUSE. His third house lord MO is useless, 2 degrees >> afflicted, >> > in >> > > the 8th. To quote the Professor on this chart: strength of the Moon >> > does >> > > not enhance appreciably with good placement of Jupiter. How can this >> > man >> > > be a capable astronaut? (I am not speaking of an easy gain. He >> > actually >> > > was a very capable astronaut.) >> > > >> > > 3) Professor has told me that when 8L and 10L mutually aspect each >> > > other, >> > > 8L wins. How was his career (farmer, professor, not just astronaut) >> > able >> > > to succeed? His appointments may have been bestowed (8th house easy >> > > gain) >> > > but his continued success in all endeavors, from what I've read was >> > > earned. This does not look a like a career success chart. >> > > >> > > I hope everyone can understand why I still have questions. >> > > >> > > Thank you so very much for your patience. >> > > >> > > Lila >> > > >> > > Hello Lila, >> > > > >> > > > He has only Jupiter well placed which rules easy gains and >> legacies. >> > > > >> > > > The close influence of Rahu on the third lord makes the person >> > > > adventurous. The placement of the Sun in the third house brings >> > > courage. >> > > > The close influence of the fifth lord on the tenth house brings >> the >> > > > element of intellect. All these factors would not have worked for >> > him >> > > in >> > > > the absence of the placement of Jupiter in the house of status. >> The >> > > good >> > > > placement of eighth lord in the house of status brings easy gains >> > with >> > > > small or little efforts. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > - >> > > > lila <lila%40lisco.com> >> > > > <%40> >> > > > Monday, July 20, 2009 11:56 PM >> > > > Re: Chart for Group >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > Rama, >> > > > >> > > > I beg to differ for a moment. His 8th lord is exactly afflicting >> the >> > > > 10th >> > > > lord, Saturn, lord of profession, PLUS lord of profession is in >> the >> > > 8th >> > > > house, which makes this a SPECIAL AFFLICTION. Can't be good. >> > > > >> > > > Dr. Professor has told us that Sun can help profession for >> Taureans. >> > > > However he has also instructed us that no planet can be stronger >> > that >> > > > its >> > > > depositor. Sun's depositor for Mr. Armstrong is Moon - weak, >> seated >> > in >> > > > the >> > > > 8th, 100% afflicted by RA from the 12th. This also is a special >> > > > affliction, I believe, and not good. >> > > > >> > > > While JU is not afflicted, it is AFFLICTING (one of the tests of a >> > > > strong >> > > > planet is that it is not afflicting). So Jupiter is not strong, it >> > is >> > > an >> > > > AFFLICTING 8th lord. This can't be good. >> > > > >> > > > I'll be the first to admit I have problems with this chart. >> > > > >> > > > Lila >> > > > >> > > > > **2009/7/18 **<lila <lila%40lisco.com>>** >> > > > > * >> > > > >> >> > > > >> * ** * >> > > > >> >> > > > >> *> Very good, Rama, my notes are as below:* >> > > > >> >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * * >> > > > > >> > > > >> * >> > > > >> >> > > > >> > " The weakness of Sun and the strong affliction to the >> > > significator >> > > > of >> > > > >> profession, Saturn, is not conducive to a strong professional >> > > life. " >> > > > >> >> > > > >> * >> > > > >> * -- You'd think so but it was successful. No criminal record >> > > > although >> > > > >> it >> > > > >> does seem a possibility jyotish wise doesn't it?* >> > > > >> >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * * >> > > > > >> > > > >> * >> > > > >> >> > > > >> " Given the weakness of so many planets, I find it hard to >> believe >> > > > that >> > > > >> he >> > > > >> > was> reknowned - but the strength of the MMP can potentially >> > > > indicate >> > > > >> a >> > > > >> life of> ill-repute. " >> > > > >> >> > > > >> * >> > > > >> * -- Yes, I'd agree with your take, but did not turn out to be >> > so. >> > > > >> Reknown >> > > > >> and good repute. >> > > > >> * >> > > > >> >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > * >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > As an after the fact analysis, I downplayed the importance of >> the >> > > > strength >> > > > > of the 8th lord of easy gains in the house of status without any >> > > > > afflictions >> > > > > involved. That strength, especially because the strong lord is >> > > > Jupiter, >> > > > > seems to have highlighted the status and the reknown achieved. >> > > > > >> > > > > Again, good learning since this is something I missed while >> doing >> > > the >> > > > > first >> > > > > round. >> > > > > >> > > > > thanks, >> > > > > Rama >> > > > > >> > > > >> by a good cause. >> > > > >> Y! 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