Does this chart show any indication of tremendous wealth

[Guest guest]

Hello,

 

This is the chart of a young woman/client who could potentially become quite

wealthy if some deals she is working on come to pass (in the order of 10's or

100's of millions USD).

 

Her data:

February 18, 1980

7:39am

Zone 5 EST

Muskegon, MI USA

Lon 86W15, Lat 43N14

 

Aquarius 3:14

 

My observations were:

1. L1 Saturn weak by infancy and placement in 8H; this weakens the whole of the

chart

 

2. L6 Moon on MEP of 2H/8H MEPs and L1 Saturn thereby weakening L8 Mercury and

Saturn seems to indicate health issues and indicates personal litigation/theft

of wealth/easy gains?

 

3. Nodal axis across 1/7H MEPs further weakening L1 Saturn and L7 Sun shows

serious relationship troubles and weakens longevity/health/vitality

 

4. Placement of L8 Mercury in the 1H shows easy gains but dispositor L1 is

weak/afflicted, L8 house of placement is afflicted by nodes and its own

mooltrikona 8H house is afflicted by L6 Moon from 2H

 

5. Excellent yoga of 11L Jupiter conjunct 3L Mars in 7H with Mars aspecting 9L

Venus shows good fortune coming from self-initiative/entrepreneurship with

partners but Jupiter/Mars combo is weak due to weak dispositor Sun whose

Mooltrikona house AND house of placement are under the exact malefic influence

of the nodes.

 

Her business/romantic relationships are odd, plagued with manipulations,

duplicities and infidelities on the part of both parties.

 

Her health isn't particularly good, she appears china doll white, fragile and

has low vitality. She is pregnant again recently but lost a child in its early

stages just some months ago (Ketu affliction of 5th house).

 

The 7H combination with the L3 Mars are clearly seen in her life as an

entrepreneur she is partnered with the same person romantically and in business

though now separated romantically but still business partners (oh the drama...).

 

I also have the chart of her younger sister who is directly involved in this

business...she would directly benefit from any success her sister enjoys.

 

So, is the redeeming strength of the well-placed 9th Lord of good fortune,

Venus, in full strength in the 2nd house of wealth enough to offset these

negatives and indicate that these highly lucrative deals will fructify?

 

Timing-wise, they are burning cash like no tomorrow in setting up the structure

of offshore companies so the deal has to come through soon.

 

Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks,

 

Matt

[Guest guest]

Hi Matt,

 

What a wonderfully polarized chart. The exalted Venus is extraordinarily

strong and might be able to pull this off. It is a Sun like planet in a Sun

like house and is strong in D9, D10, and D11 and is capable of covering a

lot of weakness in 4th, 7th and 12th houses. 4th for assets, 7th for

relationships, and 12th for ventures in foreign lands. Currently running

Mercury/Jupiter which is acceptable. Problem is this. From now to December

30th when Mercury/Saturn starts Jupiter is already debilitated, Mars will

become long term debilitated, Sun will go debilitated for a Month and

somewhere in there Venus will go into Virgo the 8th house and sign of

debilitation. In addition, this is key, Saturn has already entered 8th house

and is conjunct Natal Saturn which is afflicted by Natal Moon ruling 6th.

It seems to me the biggest vulnerabilities are in the relationships with the

exactly afflicted Sun. Once Venus goes into its debilitation sign/8th house

it won't be able to protect 7th house significations. Disputes and

disagreements can bring this down with the Natal Moon afflicting natal and

transit Saturn in the 8th. Too many problems in transit unless it all comes

together now in the next week or so.

 

I would be very interested to hear how it all plays out.

 

Best Regards,

 

Paul

 

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:00 PM, mx_jyotish <hunt4genestockswrote:

 

>

>

> Hello,

>

> This is the chart of a young woman/client who could potentially become

> quite wealthy if some deals she is working on come to pass (in the order of

> 10's or 100's of millions USD).

>

> Her data:

> February 18, 1980

> 7:39am

> Zone 5 EST

> Muskegon, MI USA

> Lon 86W15, Lat 43N14

>

> Aquarius 3:14

>

> My observations were:

> 1. L1 Saturn weak by infancy and placement in 8H; this weakens the whole of

> the chart

>

> 2. L6 Moon on MEP of 2H/8H MEPs and L1 Saturn thereby weakening L8 Mercury

> and Saturn seems to indicate health issues and indicates personal

> litigation/theft of wealth/easy gains?

>

> 3. Nodal axis across 1/7H MEPs further weakening L1 Saturn and L7 Sun shows

> serious relationship troubles and weakens longevity/health/vitality

>

> 4. Placement of L8 Mercury in the 1H shows easy gains but dispositor L1 is

> weak/afflicted, L8 house of placement is afflicted by nodes and its own

> mooltrikona 8H house is afflicted by L6 Moon from 2H

>

> 5. Excellent yoga of 11L Jupiter conjunct 3L Mars in 7H with Mars aspecting

> 9L Venus shows good fortune coming from self-initiative/entrepreneurship

> with partners but Jupiter/Mars combo is weak due to weak dispositor Sun

> whose Mooltrikona house AND house of placement are under the exact malefic

> influence of the nodes.

>

> Her business/romantic relationships are odd, plagued with manipulations,

> duplicities and infidelities on the part of both parties.

>

> Her health isn't particularly good, she appears china doll white, fragile

> and has low vitality. She is pregnant again recently but lost a child in its

> early stages just some months ago (Ketu affliction of 5th house).

>

> The 7H combination with the L3 Mars are clearly seen in her life as an

> entrepreneur she is partnered with the same person romantically and in

> business though now separated romantically but still business partners (oh

> the drama...).

>

> I also have the chart of her younger sister who is directly involved in

> this business...she would directly benefit from any success her sister

> enjoys.

>

> So, is the redeeming strength of the well-placed 9th Lord of good fortune,

> Venus, in full strength in the 2nd house of wealth enough to offset these

> negatives and indicate that these highly lucrative deals will fructify?

>

> Timing-wise, they are burning cash like no tomorrow in setting up the

> structure of offshore companies so the deal has to come through soon.

>

> Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Matt

>

>

>

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Vyas,

 

Thank you so much for your response. I will take a look at that chart.

However, I'd like to assume the TOB is correct and then assess the probabilities

of her financial success rather than assume financial success based upon

changing the chart (if that makes any sense :>)...

 

Warm regards,

 

Matt

 

 

 

SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology , " Vyas Munidas "

<muni> wrote:

>

> Hello Matt,

>

> 9 minutes earlier gives a more likely ascendant.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

> -

> " mx_jyotish " <hunt4genestocks

> <SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology >

> Monday, September 14, 2009 2:00 PM

> [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Does this chart show any

> indication of tremendous wealth

>

>

> Hello,

>

> This is the chart of a young woman/client who could potentially become quite

> wealthy if some deals she is working on come to pass (in the order of 10's

> or 100's of millions USD).

>

> Her data:

> February 18, 1980

> 7:39am

> Zone 5 EST

> Muskegon, MI USA

> Lon 86W15, Lat 43N14

>

> Aquarius 3:14

>

> My observations were:

> 1. L1 Saturn weak by infancy and placement in 8H; this weakens the whole of

> the chart

>

> 2. L6 Moon on MEP of 2H/8H MEPs and L1 Saturn thereby weakening L8 Mercury

> and Saturn seems to indicate health issues and indicates personal

> litigation/theft of wealth/easy gains?

>

> 3. Nodal axis across 1/7H MEPs further weakening L1 Saturn and L7 Sun shows

> serious relationship troubles and weakens longevity/health/vitality

>

> 4. Placement of L8 Mercury in the 1H shows easy gains but dispositor L1 is

> weak/afflicted, L8 house of placement is afflicted by nodes and its own

> mooltrikona 8H house is afflicted by L6 Moon from 2H

>

> 5. Excellent yoga of 11L Jupiter conjunct 3L Mars in 7H with Mars aspecting

> 9L Venus shows good fortune coming from self-initiative/entrepreneurship

> with partners but Jupiter/Mars combo is weak due to weak dispositor Sun

> whose Mooltrikona house AND house of placement are under the exact malefic

> influence of the nodes.

>

> Her business/romantic relationships are odd, plagued with manipulations,

> duplicities and infidelities on the part of both parties.

>

> Her health isn't particularly good, she appears china doll white, fragile

> and has low vitality. She is pregnant again recently but lost a child in

> its early stages just some months ago (Ketu affliction of 5th house).

>

> The 7H combination with the L3 Mars are clearly seen in her life as an

> entrepreneur she is partnered with the same person romantically and in

> business though now separated romantically but still business partners (oh

> the drama...).

>

> I also have the chart of her younger sister who is directly involved in this

> business...she would directly benefit from any success her sister enjoys.

>

> So, is the redeeming strength of the well-placed 9th Lord of good fortune,

> Venus, in full strength in the 2nd house of wealth enough to offset these

> negatives and indicate that these highly lucrative deals will fructify?

>

> Timing-wise, they are burning cash like no tomorrow in setting up the

> structure of offshore companies so the deal has to come through soon.

>

> Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Matt

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Paul,

 

Thanks for the superb analysis.

 

" Polarized " is a very apt description and this woman's experiences even at her

young age, good and bad, would usually take a lifetime to accumulate!

 

I agree with you these next few months don't look very promising. It seems we'd

have to look out quite a bit further in time for a better set of conditions and

I don't think their cash flow is going to hold out that long.

 

That Saturn sub-period that runs for three long years doesn't seem supportive of

anything significant and should actually be more trying than anything...

 

Only that Venus sub-period in February 2013 could support something so

extraordinary and while it's worth the wait its a huge question as to what they

will do to hold the business together until then.

 

Thank you.

 

I will keep you posted...

 

Warm regards,

 

Matt

 

 

 

SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology , Paul Brook

<brook.paul wrote:

>

> Hi Matt,

>

> What a wonderfully polarized chart. The exalted Venus is extraordinarily

> strong and might be able to pull this off. It is a Sun like planet in a Sun

> like house and is strong in D9, D10, and D11 and is capable of covering a

> lot of weakness in 4th, 7th and 12th houses. 4th for assets, 7th for

> relationships, and 12th for ventures in foreign lands. Currently running

> Mercury/Jupiter which is acceptable. Problem is this. From now to December

> 30th when Mercury/Saturn starts Jupiter is already debilitated, Mars will

> become long term debilitated, Sun will go debilitated for a Month and

> somewhere in there Venus will go into Virgo the 8th house and sign of

> debilitation. In addition, this is key, Saturn has already entered 8th house

> and is conjunct Natal Saturn which is afflicted by Natal Moon ruling 6th.

> It seems to me the biggest vulnerabilities are in the relationships with the

> exactly afflicted Sun. Once Venus goes into its debilitation sign/8th house

> it won't be able to protect 7th house significations. Disputes and

> disagreements can bring this down with the Natal Moon afflicting natal and

> transit Saturn in the 8th. Too many problems in transit unless it all comes

> together now in the next week or so.

>

> I would be very interested to hear how it all plays out.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Paul

>

> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 1:00 PM, mx_jyotish <hunt4genestockswrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > This is the chart of a young woman/client who could potentially become

> > quite wealthy if some deals she is working on come to pass (in the order of

> > 10's or 100's of millions USD).

> >

> > Her data:

> > February 18, 1980

> > 7:39am

> > Zone 5 EST

> > Muskegon, MI USA

> > Lon 86W15, Lat 43N14

> >

> > Aquarius 3:14

> >

> > My observations were:

> > 1. L1 Saturn weak by infancy and placement in 8H; this weakens the whole of

> > the chart

> >

> > 2. L6 Moon on MEP of 2H/8H MEPs and L1 Saturn thereby weakening L8 Mercury

> > and Saturn seems to indicate health issues and indicates personal

> > litigation/theft of wealth/easy gains?

> >

> > 3. Nodal axis across 1/7H MEPs further weakening L1 Saturn and L7 Sun shows

> > serious relationship troubles and weakens longevity/health/vitality

> >

> > 4. Placement of L8 Mercury in the 1H shows easy gains but dispositor L1 is

> > weak/afflicted, L8 house of placement is afflicted by nodes and its own

> > mooltrikona 8H house is afflicted by L6 Moon from 2H

> >

> > 5. Excellent yoga of 11L Jupiter conjunct 3L Mars in 7H with Mars aspecting

> > 9L Venus shows good fortune coming from self-initiative/entrepreneurship

> > with partners but Jupiter/Mars combo is weak due to weak dispositor Sun

> > whose Mooltrikona house AND house of placement are under the exact malefic

> > influence of the nodes.

> >

> > Her business/romantic relationships are odd, plagued with manipulations,

> > duplicities and infidelities on the part of both parties.

> >

> > Her health isn't particularly good, she appears china doll white, fragile

> > and has low vitality. She is pregnant again recently but lost a child in its

> > early stages just some months ago (Ketu affliction of 5th house).

> >

> > The 7H combination with the L3 Mars are clearly seen in her life as an

> > entrepreneur she is partnered with the same person romantically and in

> > business though now separated romantically but still business partners (oh

> > the drama...).

> >

> > I also have the chart of her younger sister who is directly involved in

> > this business...she would directly benefit from any success her sister

> > enjoys.

> >

> > So, is the redeeming strength of the well-placed 9th Lord of good fortune,

> > Venus, in full strength in the 2nd house of wealth enough to offset these

> > negatives and indicate that these highly lucrative deals will fructify?

> >

> > Timing-wise, they are burning cash like no tomorrow in setting up the

> > structure of offshore companies so the deal has to come through soon.

> >

> > Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Matt

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Matt,

 

With cases like this, I usually assume that the TOB needs some correction

and check events and trends before I offer any reading.

 

If this TOB is accurate, it does not paint a promising picture. If she's had

a good degree of success despite challenges, then the Cp ascendant should be

considered. You can check better.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

-

" mx_jyotish " <hunt4genestocks

<SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology >

Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:39 AM

[systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Re: Does this chart show any

indication of tremendous wealth

 

 

Dear Vyas,

 

Thank you so much for your response. I will take a look at that chart.

However, I'd like to assume the TOB is correct and then assess the

probabilities of her financial success rather than assume financial success

based upon changing the chart (if that makes any sense :>)...

 

Warm regards,

 

Matt

 

 

 

SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology , " Vyas Munidas "

<muni> wrote:

>

> Hello Matt,

>

> 9 minutes earlier gives a more likely ascendant.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

> -

> " mx_jyotish " <hunt4genestocks

> <SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology >

> Monday, September 14, 2009 2:00 PM

> [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Does this chart show any

> indication of tremendous wealth

>

>

> Hello,

>

> This is the chart of a young woman/client who could potentially become

> quite

> wealthy if some deals she is working on come to pass (in the order of 10's

> or 100's of millions USD).

>

> Her data:

> February 18, 1980

> 7:39am

> Zone 5 EST

> Muskegon, MI USA

> Lon 86W15, Lat 43N14

>

> Aquarius 3:14

>

> My observations were:

> 1. L1 Saturn weak by infancy and placement in 8H; this weakens the whole

> of

> the chart

>

> 2. L6 Moon on MEP of 2H/8H MEPs and L1 Saturn thereby weakening L8 Mercury

> and Saturn seems to indicate health issues and indicates personal

> litigation/theft of wealth/easy gains?

>

> 3. Nodal axis across 1/7H MEPs further weakening L1 Saturn and L7 Sun

> shows

> serious relationship troubles and weakens longevity/health/vitality

>

> 4. Placement of L8 Mercury in the 1H shows easy gains but dispositor L1 is

> weak/afflicted, L8 house of placement is afflicted by nodes and its own

> mooltrikona 8H house is afflicted by L6 Moon from 2H

>

> 5. Excellent yoga of 11L Jupiter conjunct 3L Mars in 7H with Mars

> aspecting

> 9L Venus shows good fortune coming from self-initiative/entrepreneurship

> with partners but Jupiter/Mars combo is weak due to weak dispositor Sun

> whose Mooltrikona house AND house of placement are under the exact malefic

> influence of the nodes.

>

> Her business/romantic relationships are odd, plagued with manipulations,

> duplicities and infidelities on the part of both parties.

>

> Her health isn't particularly good, she appears china doll white, fragile

> and has low vitality. She is pregnant again recently but lost a child in

> its early stages just some months ago (Ketu affliction of 5th house).

>

> The 7H combination with the L3 Mars are clearly seen in her life as an

> entrepreneur she is partnered with the same person romantically and in

> business though now separated romantically but still business partners (oh

> the drama...).

>

> I also have the chart of her younger sister who is directly involved in

> this

> business...she would directly benefit from any success her sister enjoys.

>

> So, is the redeeming strength of the well-placed 9th Lord of good fortune,

> Venus, in full strength in the 2nd house of wealth enough to offset these

> negatives and indicate that these highly lucrative deals will fructify?

>

> Timing-wise, they are burning cash like no tomorrow in setting up the

> structure of offshore companies so the deal has to come through soon.

>

> Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Matt

>

[Guest guest]

Vyas,

 

Thank you again. From what I can gather she is well-traveled but hasn't enjoyed

any remarkable success to speak of.

 

I don't have many events to consider with the exception that I know that she

took up with her boss who was 30/40 years her senior when she was just 18. This

would have been in a Me/Ke period with the given TOB and the aforementioned

close afflictions of the 7L Sun by Rahu/Ketu with closely influencing the 1/7

axis seems to fit.

 

Also, she has a strong manipulative/dishonest streak that even victimizes her

younger sister which seems to show Rahu's close influence on the MEPs of the 1st

and 3rd houses. That too seems to fit.

 

So I guess this " big win " isn't happening at least in the foreseeable future.

 

Thank you,

 

Matt

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology , " Vyas Munidas "

<muni> wrote:

>

> Dear Matt,

>

> With cases like this, I usually assume that the TOB needs some correction

> and check events and trends before I offer any reading.

>

> If this TOB is accurate, it does not paint a promising picture. If she's had

> a good degree of success despite challenges, then the Cp ascendant should be

> considered. You can check better.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

> -

> " mx_jyotish " <hunt4genestocks

> <SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology >

> Tuesday, September 15, 2009 8:39 AM

> [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Re: Does this chart show any

> indication of tremendous wealth

>

>

> Dear Vyas,

>

> Thank you so much for your response. I will take a look at that chart.

> However, I'd like to assume the TOB is correct and then assess the

> probabilities of her financial success rather than assume financial success

> based upon changing the chart (if that makes any sense :>)...

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Matt

>

>

>

> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology , " Vyas Munidas "

> <munidas@> wrote:

> >

> > Hello Matt,

> >

> > 9 minutes earlier gives a more likely ascendant.

> >

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Vyas Munidas

> >

> > -

> > " mx_jyotish " <hunt4genestocks@>

> > <SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology >

> > Monday, September 14, 2009 2:00 PM

> > [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Does this chart show any

> > indication of tremendous wealth

> >

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > This is the chart of a young woman/client who could potentially become

> > quite

> > wealthy if some deals she is working on come to pass (in the order of 10's

> > or 100's of millions USD).

> >

> > Her data:

> > February 18, 1980

> > 7:39am

> > Zone 5 EST

> > Muskegon, MI USA

> > Lon 86W15, Lat 43N14

> >

> > Aquarius 3:14

> >

> > My observations were:

> > 1. L1 Saturn weak by infancy and placement in 8H; this weakens the whole

> > of

> > the chart

> >

> > 2. L6 Moon on MEP of 2H/8H MEPs and L1 Saturn thereby weakening L8 Mercury

> > and Saturn seems to indicate health issues and indicates personal

> > litigation/theft of wealth/easy gains?

> >

> > 3. Nodal axis across 1/7H MEPs further weakening L1 Saturn and L7 Sun

> > shows

> > serious relationship troubles and weakens longevity/health/vitality

> >

> > 4. Placement of L8 Mercury in the 1H shows easy gains but dispositor L1 is

> > weak/afflicted, L8 house of placement is afflicted by nodes and its own

> > mooltrikona 8H house is afflicted by L6 Moon from 2H

> >

> > 5. Excellent yoga of 11L Jupiter conjunct 3L Mars in 7H with Mars

> > aspecting

> > 9L Venus shows good fortune coming from self-initiative/entrepreneurship

> > with partners but Jupiter/Mars combo is weak due to weak dispositor Sun

> > whose Mooltrikona house AND house of placement are under the exact malefic

> > influence of the nodes.

> >

> > Her business/romantic relationships are odd, plagued with manipulations,

> > duplicities and infidelities on the part of both parties.

> >

> > Her health isn't particularly good, she appears china doll white, fragile

> > and has low vitality. She is pregnant again recently but lost a child in

> > its early stages just some months ago (Ketu affliction of 5th house).

> >

> > The 7H combination with the L3 Mars are clearly seen in her life as an

> > entrepreneur she is partnered with the same person romantically and in

> > business though now separated romantically but still business partners (oh

> > the drama...).

> >

> > I also have the chart of her younger sister who is directly involved in

> > this

> > business...she would directly benefit from any success her sister enjoys.

> >

> > So, is the redeeming strength of the well-placed 9th Lord of good fortune,

> > Venus, in full strength in the 2nd house of wealth enough to offset these

> > negatives and indicate that these highly lucrative deals will fructify?

> >

> > Timing-wise, they are burning cash like no tomorrow in setting up the

> > structure of offshore companies so the deal has to come through soon.

> >

> > Any insights would be greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Matt

> >

>