Gold

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Hello Mr. Fraser,

 

Jupiter in Leo is not the single factor for rise of gold prices. Gold prices

is relative with price of crude, stocks, real estate, etc.

 

Prolonged stay of Mars in Aries (its MT sign), Saturn ruling the black gold

(crude) in royal sign of Cancer and Jupiter in the sign of luxuries - Libra

concurrently, have all contributed to the rise in prices of gold, crude,

real estate and stocks/equity.

 

Best wishes,

 

 

 

 

-

" fraser " <fraser

 

Friday, March 17, 2006 9:04 AM

GOLD

 

 

> Mr. Choudhry,

> Sir,

>

> Though, Jupiter is not transiting through Leo presently, but is there

> an astrological indication for the price of gold to reach new peaks

> around May-June this year? The US policy and their war efforts should

> bring about this situation, I think.

> Would you please share your thoughts on this.

> Thank You,

> Regards,

> Fraser

>

 

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Mr. Wong, Prafulla and Vyas Munidas: Looking at the interest and timeliness, let me first tackle the Gold question. I will think about the "Upcoming Weekly View", and reply to the question of First trade charts later.If you make chart for GOLD-LONDON FIX (2/19/1968, 9:40AM, London, 00:00GMT) with Ayanamsha of 22deg46min, instead of Lahiri Ayanamsha (you would need a value of 23:13 at custom preferrences in Jyotish Tools), you would get a chart with Aries rising at 26:15, and Moon in Libra at 14:08. Ayanamsha is modified merely to fit the dates of Gold price bottoms and peaks.The modified dasha you need is called Khandi dasha. It is one-halved Vimshottri dasha. That means the duration of every mahadasha is halved, but everything else is same. Thus the duration of Sun is 3 years, Moon is 5 years, etc. It represents 60 years cycle instead of 120 years cycle of our favorite Vimshottri.The first dasha was of Rahu which ended on 2/4/72.

Jupiter dasha ran for 8 years from 2/4/72 to 2/4/80. Jupiter is FB, well placed, quite strong and aspected closely by FB Sun. The gold price rose from $48 to $637, about 13 times.Then came dasha of Saturn. Saturn is badly placed in the 12H. Gold dropped from $637 to $360, about one half in 9 1/2 years during 2/4/80 to 8/4/89. Mercury period ran from 8/4/89 to 2/4/97 for 8 1/2 years. Mercury is FM, weak and afflicted, although well placed. The gold stayed around $360, losing intrinsic value when compared to dollar.Then came Ketu dasha from 2/4/97 to 8/4/00. Ketu is MMP, badly placed, and on MEP. The price of Gold dropped from $360 to $277, losing significantly in terms of other currencies. The dasha of Venus started on 8/4/200 for 10 years. Venus is FB, quite strong and well placed. Gold has already moved from $277 to $700. In my view it can easily go to $1200 or more by the time Venus ends. Then would come the best Sun Dasha for 3

years, followed by equally good Moon dasha for 5 years. Go figure what could be the price of Gold on 8/4/18. These are my views based on a hypothetical generally unacceptable dasha system, and it is possible that the results may be quite contrary to my predictions. I ask for forgiveness if anybody is offended by the use of this dasha. This model is good only for looking at the long term price movements of the Gold, not short term. Other people may criticize, validate or expand the idea further. Please do your own research before putting your own money.ThanksRaj ChadhaVyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Mr. Raj Chadha, By 'upcoming weekly view,' I meant direction for the week ahead. Nothing elaborate, just a paragraph. For example, "In this week started May 29,

expect a fall overall in the index. Monday through Wednesdays are good for shorts, while Thursday from mid-day looks congested for the rest of the week, erring on the side of short. The best time to sell is 11am on Monday." I am busy with running a fund so I know that time is always an issue. To your other email today, the debate can continue for long time on whether the place is Washington, NY or Chicago, etc. By my suggestion above, one proves the validity of the chart in a real time. No one can argue with that approach. Additionally, I am interested in your modified Vimshottri dasha. You can email me off the list if you care to share it. As far as GOLD goes, I have been very accurate with transit chart and an understanding of the planets, signs and aspects. So it will be interesting to plot the natal you indicate and mate with the modified dasha. This is all about research so don't be afraid to

pitch your ideas. If you get flak for it, no problem - we can discuss via email. God is the only one who has it all figured out, we just have little parts of it. Best regards, Vyas Munidas - "Raj Cgadha" <rkctech <SAMVA > Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:03 PM Re: Recent panic in stock markets > Dear Vyas Muni Das: > > Could you please elaborate on what would you like to see on "Upcoming > Weekly View". I am not a full time astrologer; writing something every > week may be slightly difficult. > > Regarding Gold, I do not feel that I have the tools to predict the daily > movements. But after doing some serious research I have found a chart that > quite nicely shows the past long-term movements of the Gold price. The > chart is based

on the first fix of the Gold price in London (Feb 19, 1968, > 9:40 AM, London, England). This chart with a slightly modified Ayanamsha > and modified Vimshottri dasha explains the fluctuations in the Gold price > since 1968 so nicely that you would be amazed. Since this involves a > modification of the Vimshottri dasha, the SAMVA group and our esteemed > Prof Chaudhry may not be comfortable with it. And I have no intention of > disturbing anyone. I will therefore not reveal this part of my research. > > Thanks and Good luck. > > Raj > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Mr. Raj Chadha (and > List), > > Thank you very much for bringing out these points. I have looked at the > situations you have pointed out. There is a very strong corelation. It's > certainly worth analyzing for future trends. How about an upcoming

weekly > view? > > On another note, today when the Ke-Mo asp was close, GOLD stopped its > downward push. I was short EUR/USD this morning in my belief that USD will > run hard with in the second part of the week to the 1.2700 target (see my > Wednesday market view on vyas.ca). I wasn't sure what the effect would > have > been on GOLD, but I was certain with the dark Moon, there may be some > rukus > with fiery, karmic Ketu on the job. The levels 640 and 655 contained the > movement perfectly. If we moved to 635 on the Ke-Mo aspect, I would have > shorted it heavily. Next week, weakness in GOLD is likely and USD should > rally. GL & GT. > > > Best regards, > > Vyas Munidas > > > > - > "Raj Cgadha" <rkctech > <SAMVA > >

Friday, May 26, 2006 1:23 PM > Re: Re: Recent panic in the world markets > > > > Friends: > > > > OK, So you want me to show you more clearly that this NASDAQ chart > > projects the stock market fluctuations. Although "Cosmologer" has > > simplified my work, I would give you a few examples. > > > > Let us start with the Oct 19, 1987 crash. The FM's Rahu and Ketu were > > stationery exactly on 6th and 12th MEP's. FM Mercury was aspecting weak > > Saturn, and transiting Jupiter was aspecting natal Ketu. Combine this > > with > > the dasha of Merc/Ketu/Rahu, all FM's for Aries ascendant. In fact this > > chart shows 1987 crash better than any other chart. > > > > The 2000 stock market slowdown started on 03/02/2000. Rahu Ketu once > > again played the role. They

became stationery on MEP of 4th and 10th > > houses, aspecting 6th, 8th and 12th houses, and natal Mercury and Moon. > > Dasha was of Mer/Sat. Saturn was very weak in transit and conjuncting > > weak > > natal Saturn. > > > > For more evidence please study the transits and dashas of Oct 1990, Oct > > 1998, Oct 2002, (significant bottoms), and Jan 2004, when a significant > > top was established. > > > > The US market saw the explosion of technology, communication, and > > networking in 1980's and 1990's. This coincides with the Mercury > > mahadasha > > of this chart from 1984 to 2001. Mercury is aspected by strong Moon. Now > > the areas are dormant in the dasha of Ketu. > > > > As Cosmologer pointed out better days are ahead in Ven/Ven. But the > > gains > > may not

come in the technology area. Look for financials, entertainment, > > and transportation areas. > > > > Thanks and regards to all of you great souls in the service of > > Astrology > > > > Raj Chadha > > > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > > Dear C, > > > > Outstanding work as usual! > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > Vyas Munidas > > > > > > > > - > > "Cosmologer" <cosmologer > > <samva > > > Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:33 PM > > Re: Recent panic in the world markets > > > > > >> Hello Raj Chada, Vyas Munidas and list, > >> > >> Raj has

mentioned the chart for the first trade on the Nasdaq. This > >> chart > >> has > >> > >> - L1 Mars badly placed in H8. > >> - Income lord, Saturn, is debilitated in H1. > >> - Jupiter, L9 of luck, is badly placed and weak in H8, but conjunct MEP > >> of > >> H8 and aspecting also H12, H2 and H4. This placement brings some easy > >> gains. > >> - L7 Venus is closely aspecting H9 (and H3), somewhat offsetting the > >> weakness of Jupiter for the luck. > >> - L4 Moon is strong and well placed on MEP of H4, but closely afflicted > >> by > >> L12 Mercury on MEP of H10. The aspect of Mercury on L4 and H4 is > >> partially > >> protected against by the favourable aspect of Jupiter on L4 and H4 and > >> the > >> conjunction of L4 and H4

MEP. > >> - Nodes are not afflicting in chart, with Rahu in H11 and Ketu in H5. > >> - L5 Sun is well placed in H10 and closely aspected by L11 Saturn in > >> H1. > >> > >> From December 1996 to November 2001, the Me/Ju and Me/Sa periods were > >> running. This would have been a period when the going was good, but due > >> to > >> the weakness of both Jupiter and Saturn, the stock exchange would have > >> been vulnerable to setbacks during transit afflictions. > >> > >> During the market drop in late March to mid April 2000, the nodes were > >> afflicting the MEPs of H4 and H10 and other even numbered houses as > >> well > >> as L4 Moon and L12 Mercury. Prior to the exact conjunction in March and > >> April, the nodes had been stationary at around 9°. This development

is > >> therefore consistent with the chart and transit-period dynamics. > >> > >> Some earlier drops were also associated with the nodes going over MEPs > >> of > >> houses. So, the chart seems to be authentic, as are many "first trade" > >> charts. > >> > >> From November 2008, when the Ve/Ve period begins, would promise to be > >> a > >> good period for the Nasdaq stock exchange. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> C > >> > >> > >> SAMVA , "Vyas Munidas" <muni> wrote: > >>> > >>> Dear Mr Raj Chadha, > >>> > >>> Thanks for the email and the chart. It looks interesting. > >>> > >>> May I suggest

that you bring out several time periods of the past > >>> where > >>> great strength or weakness were indicated in this chart and the > >>> corelation > >>> was perfect with the price charts. This way confidence to explore can > >>> build. > >>> It's also a good idea to provide an upcoming weekly view (or other > >>> time > >>> frame) on a regular basis. This arbs out the chart's validity. > >>> > >>> This is an Aries ASC chart. During presnet tr Mars' debilitation (in > >>> addition to nodal affliction), one cannot expect huge gains. In > >>> general, > >>> for > >>> strong buying trends we look to the tr condition of Sun and Saturn; > >>> all > >>> other benefics play a supporting role. > >>>

> >>> Again, thanks for following up on this. We need more men/women to > >>> bravely > >>> show their financial SA views. My motto in this regards is, only the > >>> markets > >>> can prove me wrong. > >>> > >>> Justifing your chart and spewing your views will be easy as you have > >>> done > >>> your homework. > >>> > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> > >>> Vyas Munidas > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> - > >>> "Raj Cgadha" <rkctech > >>> <SAMVA > > >>> Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:06 PM > >>> Re: Re: Recent panic in the world markets >

>>> > >>> > >>> > Drars Vyas Munidas, List and Prof. Chaudhry: > >>> > > >>> > One of the area I am working on is to find the appropriate chart > >>> > that > >>> > would emulate the movements of the stock market or commodities. In > >>> > my > >>> > view, of all the stock markets of the world, Nasdaq stock market > >>> > chart > >>> > is > >>> > the one that has been most appropriately indicating the fluctuations > >>> > in > >>> > the US and world markets for the last 30 years. When you study its > >>> > chart > >>> > (Feb 8, 1971, 10AM, NY, EST), you find that presently the functional > >>> > malefics Rahu and Ketu are transiting over the MEP of the 12th

and > >>> > 6th > >>> > houses exactly. The other FM Mercury has recently transited over > >>> > weak > >>> > Saturn in the 1st house. In my opinion it was this combination of > >>> > three > >>> > malefics AND dasha of Ke/Ju that has precipitated crash in the world > >>> > markets. Now Mercury has come to malign the MEP of second house. > >>> > Rahu > >>> > and > >>> > Ketu will continue to effect the 12th and 6th houses for few more > >>> > days. > >>> > On > >>> > June 15, they will be far enough to be considered safe. I will > >>> > therefore > >>> > stay away from buying until June 15. > >>> > > >>> > These are my views, please test and

accept if you like. > >>> > > >>> > Thanks to all of you > >>> > > >>> > Raj Chadha > >>> > > >>> > Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote: > >>> > Vyas Munidas: > >>> > > >>> > I agree with you that a lot of work has to be done on Financial SA. > >>> > I > >>> > have been > >>> > doing financial astrology for the last 5-6 years, and published > >>> > articles > >>> > in 'The Internantional Astrologer magazine. Noticing the strength > >>> > of > >>> > SA, > >>> > I recently started practicing SA. I am reevalating my old research > >>> > in > >>> > this >

>>> > new light, and will publish my results soon. Please stay tuned. > >>> > > >>> > Raj K. Chadha > >>> > Author of "A Practical Guide to Hindu Astrology" > >>> > > >>> > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: > >>> > Thanks for the data C. I'll have a look. > >>> > > >>> > So far Jorge's chart is fantastic. > >>> > > >>> > In financial SA, there's lots of pioneering work to be done, If > >>> > there > >>> > is > >>> > interest and experience amongst list members to pioneer work in > >>> > financial > >>> > SA, perhaps the time is almost right to start something. I'm looking > >>> > for > >>> > men/women with a good

background in SA, strongly involved in the > >>> > financial > >>> > markets - contributors at this point, learners can come later when > >>> > there > >>> > is > >>> > something tangible to learn. > >>> > > >>> > Not the sort of endeavour to come ask, "help me with my share > >>> > price," > >>> > rather, "I've found that x planet is the primary significator for Y > >>> > commodity, here's a historical price chart and an accompanying > >>> > planetary > >>> > strength plot." > >>> > > >>> > If interested, send me your chart details. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Best regards, > >>> > > >>> > Vyas Munidas >

>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > - > >>> > "cosmologer" <cosmologer > >>> > <SAMVA > > >>> > Monday, May 01, 2006 3:40 PM > >>> > Re: OIL and GOLD > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Hello Vyas, > >>> > > >>> > Mercury rules commerce in SA, while Rahu rules salesmen. Jupiter > >>> > rules finance and the Sun, along with Jupiter, rules banking > >>> > activities, as the confidence of the state is important for such > >>> > trustworthy enterprises. Mercury, however, also rules communication > >>> > and transmittal of information. The link of Mercury to stock markets > >>>

> is well established whatever the exact mechanism. In the chart I > >>> > mentioned earlier, Mercury became also L3, ruling confidence. As it > >>> > was weak in that chart, at 1° Pisces in H9, the confidence became > >>> > vulnerable to setbacks associated with transit afflictions. > >>> > > >>> > Ratification of Articles of Confederation > >>> > 1 March 1781 > >>> > 03:18 PM > >>> > Philadelpia, USA > >>> > 75W10, 39N57 > >>> > 21° Cancer 06' > >>> > > >>> > I should note that John TWB on this list has warned that the > >>> > time of day in question is not consistent with the historical > >>> > records. The time was intuitively arrived at by the person offering > >>> > this chart.

> >>> > > >>> > Best regards, > >>> > > >>> > C > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > SAMVA , "Vyas Munidas" <munidas@> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> Dear C, > >>> >> > >>> >> Mercury, in my opinion does not rule markets directly, rather it > >>> > rules the > >>> >> technical side of the brain and in turn, technical trading. One > >>> > may imagine > >>> >> that price moves in most markets are technical and algorithmic > >>> > driven and > >>> >> fundamentals (or funnymentals) set the macro trends. When the > >>> > technical side > >>> >> is shot, all that is left is neurotic sentiment

based - mass > >>> > buying or > >>> >> selling. The rational part of the brain becomes weak - you may > >>> > note this by > >>> >> a sequence of 23% intraday pullbacks rather than full on 38, 50% > >>> > or deeper. > >>> >> > >>> >> Saturn sitting in Cn even outside the gain/fluctuation given by Ra > >>> > will > >>> >> still make gains/remain stable. I believe caution is required when > >>> > Mars > >>> >> enters Cn, debilitated. Here real estate prices can start to > >>> > suffer as well. > >>> >> > >>> >> This can be the first signs to the masses that such real estate > >>> > trees don't > >>> >> grow to the sky and the Fed's tightening of

interest rates are > >>> > having > >>> >> effect. Best bet is to buy lots of real estate 3-4 years from now > >>> > when there > >>> >> are alot of foreclosures and max pinch is felt - horrible to face, > >>> > but > >>> >> that's the timing for this sector. > >>> >> > >>> >> For the most part, my focus isn't on any SMs - I find this a > >>> > pointless > >>> >> endeavour when there are deeply liquid markets like Gold, > >>> > Currencies and Oil > >>> >> readily available. I can accurately predict the SP and DOW from > >>> >> understanding mass psychology through astrology and technicals, > >>> > but I don't > >>> >> trade it so there's no point to me. >

>>> >> > >>> >> On the USA charts, I haven't reviewed the other chart you > >>> > mentioned. What > >>> >> are the details? Funny that you mentioned 9-11; I was wondering if > >>> > anyone > >>> >> has any stored exchanges on it. Please forward or direct me to it. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> Best regards, > >>> >> > >>> >> Vyas Munidas > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> - > >>> >> "cosmologer" <cosmologer@> > >>> >> <SAMVA > > >>> >> Monday, May 01, 2006 10:43 AM > >>> >> Re: OIL and

GOLD > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> Hello Vyas, > >>> >> > >>> >> Thank you for the explanation for your predictions. > >>> >> > >>> >> The transit strength of Mercury has been shown to be important for > >>> >> the stock market generally. However, national influences also are > >>> >> important. In my experience, national charts are very important for > >>> >> the overall conditions and sentiments of investors. > >>> >> > >>> >> [side note: the link to a natal chart is also important. In > >>> >> 2002 and 2003 the close affliction of transit L8 Saturn in H12 to > >>> >> natal L3 Mercury in H9 in the 21° Cancer rising chart for the USA > >>> >> based on

Articles of Confederation on 1 March 1781 was shown to be > >>> >> important. As predicted by at that time, the > >>> >> stock market rose upon the seperation of this transit affliction. > >>> >> That chart also very well predicted the events of September 2001, > >>> >> including a prediction for a crisis and a drop in the stock > >>> >> exchange, as well as military activity by the USA. The start of US > >>> >> attacks in Afghanistan was predicted by Neville Lange based on this > >>> >> chart to within 15 minutes of the actual event on 7 October. If > >>> > this > >>> >> chart is not authentic, such predictions were a fluke, but the only > >>> >> way to find out is to perform repeat predictions, including of the > >>>

>> 15° Scorpio rising chart for the USA rectified by Jorge Angelino > >>> >> based on the Declaration of Independence on 2 July 1776.] > >>> >> > >>> >> The transit aspect of Rahu to Saturn has proven itself to be very > >>> >> important for the price of oil, as seen in 1998 when Saturn was > >>> >> debilitated in Aries and Rahu was in Leo the oil price fell to > >>> >> around $10. When the affliction seperated, the oil price quickly > >>> >> recovered. The present affliction of Rahu in Pisces has involved a > >>> >> stronger Saturn in Cancer, and the price of oil has actually risen. > >>> >> As Rahu´s influence is to generate volatility, the easing of the > >>> >> affliction should result in a reversion to some long-term mean. In >

>>> >> other words, lower oil prices are expected in the months ahead. > >>> >> > >>> >> What determines the strength of gold seems to be more elusive. > >>> >> Earlier, linked it to the transit of Jupiter, in > >>> >> particular its passage through Leo. At the same time, he noted that > >>> >> demand in the gold consuming countries was important for the price. > >>> >> The demand in China and other fast growing countries, has been an > >>> >> important component of the price rise in gold. This should be seen > >>> >> in the authentic chart for China. Jorge Angelino has rectified a > >>> >> chart for China, which could be tested with predictions. The gold > >>> >> price has since moved to Virgo and Libra and the price of

gold has > >>> >> continued to rise. the 18° - 19° have been found to be important to > >>> >> sharp rises in the gold price. > >>> >> > >>> >> The gold price could also be linked to financial stability stress > >>> >> involving the USA. For instance, the long term interest rates in > >>> > the > >>> >> USA have risen since mid 2005, likely reflecting rising inflation > >>> >> expectations. The actual mechanism could be an expectation of a > >>> >> weaker dollar associated with the long term current account > >>> > deficit, > >>> >> which is a big component of global trade imbalances. Alternatively, > >>> >> the high and rising oil price rise and increased riskiness of the > >>> >> global economy

due to Iran´s nuclear ambitions and tense situation > >>> >> in the mid east, could be making investors increase the return > >>> >> demanded (higher long term interest rates) to compensate for this > >>> >> risk. The investors could also be increasingly moving into > >>> >> alternative assets, like gold. The higher gold price would then > >>> >> reflect increased investor demand for safer reserve assets than > >>> >> dollar based financial instruments. Whatever, such influences > >>> > should > >>> >> be reflected in the authentic chart of the USA. > >>> >> > >>> >> Accurate predictions of financial variables on the basis of > >>> >> astrology, both in transit and in relation to national charts, by > >>> >> you and

others is bound to help shed light on what it > >>> >> is that explains these movements. > >>> >> > >>> >> Best regards, > >>> >> > >>> >> C > >>> >> > >>> >> PS a Powerpoint file showing the transit strength of planets in > >>> > 2006 > >>> >> is available in the files section of SAMVA web page. The graphical > >>> >> or visual representation is helpful to gauge the varying strength > >>> > of > >>> >> the planets at a given time. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> > http://f2.grp.fs.com/v1/UAZWRKC8ppwzmxG88vTe3Z3ThClpQH7nrYd8G9D9 > >>> >>

WDECr94wTFOues484qoMohNTU7XZt5fbsTfOunF3v-dqMF83p_7EA_MG/Transit% > >>> >> 20strength%20of%20planets%20in%202006.ppt > >>> >> > >>> >> About strength & calculation method > >>> >> > >>> >> Strength: > >>> >> Strength is calculated in %. > >>> >> 100% means the planet has full strength. > >>> >> 0% means it has none. > >>> >> A planet needs about 60% strength to defend its indications from > >>> >> severe transit affliction. > >>> >> > >>> >> Caclulation method: > >>> >> The strength of planet is calculated for infancy and old age (does > >>> >> not apply to nodes) - ranges from 0% to 100%. > >>> >> The strength of a planet is calculated

when in a state of > >>> > combustion > >>> >> with the Sun (does not apply to Sun and nodes) - ranges from 0% to > >>> >> 100%. > >>> >> A planet is calculated to have 50% strength when transiting through > >>> >> its sign of debilitation > >>> >> When a planet is transiting through a Moolatrikona (MT) sign, the > >>> >> strength of the dispositor, the planet owning the MT sign (excludes > >>> >> nodes), is considered - ranges from 0% to 100% > >>> >> The lowest value, based on the above criteria, is selected. > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> SAMVA , "Vyas Munidas" <munidas@> wrote: > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Dear List, > >>> >>

> > >>> >> > Here is my view on the markets this week:- > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Mercury moves out of its sign of debilitation on Monday around > >>> >> 9pm. It's > >>> >> > weak by degree until Thursday 2pm. This marks an end to neurotic > >>> >> trading. We > >>> >> > are likely to see a return to stability and more rational > >>> >> technical > >>> >> > behaviour across all markets and instruments. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Ra/Sa affliction is no longer exact, and Venus has moved from > >>> >> Aquarius. > >>> >> > We are likely to see a stabilization in oil prices and good dips. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Jupiter and Sun

closely aspect each other. Gold will continue to > >>> >> be bought > >>> >> > on dips. Gold can make a new high this week. Best to buy at 635 > >>> >> area for a > >>> >> > 20+ dollar run. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > As Sa/Ra move further apart, global tensions are likely to ease. > >>> >> The Sun in > >>> >> > Aries continues to keep the US gov't under pressure for 14 more > >>> >> days. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Recommendations: > >>> >> > 1) Buy GOLD > >>> >> > 2) Buy USD in the early part of the week - the momentum for > >>> >> shorting in the > >>> >> > last few weeks is likely to continue and test USD lows. >

>>> >> > 3) Oil can be bought on dips for a few dollars rise at a time - > >>> >> the momentum > >>> >> > is still hot and uncertainity still prevades. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Best regards, > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Vyas Munidas > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > - > >>> >> > "Vyas Munidas" <munidas@> > >>> >> > < >; <SAMVA > > >>> >> > Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:16 PM > >>> >> > OIL and GOLD > >>> >> > > >>> >> >

> >>> >> > > Dear list, > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > We are hitting fantastic highs in Oil and Gold. USD has taken > >>> >> quite a > >>> >> > > tumble > >>> >> > > this week. The oil rise is due to a very simple reason - Venus > >>> >> sits in > >>> >> > > Aquarius. We can expect prices to stay hot for the next 10 > >>> > days. > >>> >> The > >>> >> > > momentum will probably wane after that. Things are likely to > >>> >> remain a > >>> >> > > little > >>> >> > > unstable after that, for another two weeks until the Sun moves > >>> >> out of > >>> >> > > Aries. >

>>> >> > > Roughly 24 days in total. 80/brl is possible. > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > I've had GOLD targets pegged at 600 and 625; (624 was hit > >>> >> within the last > >>> >> > > two hours) . There is more gain in the cards, with support > >>> >> beginning in > >>> >> > > the > >>> >> > > 590's. All the dips are likely to be bought strongly. The 650 > >>> >> area will be > >>> >> > > psychologically strong to penetrate. > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > May all your investments be fruitful and the profits from them > >>> >> well used. > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >>

> > Best regards, > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > Vyas Munidas > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great > >> rates starting at 1 & cent;/min. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Mr Raj Chadha,

 

Thank you for your detailed explanation. I will look further.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

 

-

" Raj Cgadha " <rkctech

<SAMVA >

Wednesday, May 31, 2006 4:01 PM

Re: GOLD

 

 

> Mr. Wong, Prafulla and Vyas Munidas:

>

> Looking at the interest and timeliness, let me first tackle the Gold

> question. I will think about the " Upcoming Weekly View " , and reply to the

> question of First trade charts later.

>

> If you make chart for GOLD-LONDON FIX (2/19/1968, 9:40AM, London,

> 00:00GMT) with Ayanamsha of 22deg46min, instead of Lahiri Ayanamsha (you

> would need a value of 23:13 at custom preferrences in Jyotish Tools), you

> would get a chart with Aries rising at 26:15, and Moon in Libra at 14:08.

> Ayanamsha is modified merely to fit the dates of Gold price bottoms and

> peaks.

>

> The modified dasha you need is called Khandi dasha. It is one-halved

> Vimshottri dasha. That means the duration of every mahadasha is halved,

> but everything else is same. Thus the duration of Sun is 3 years, Moon is

> 5 years, etc. It represents 60 years cycle instead of 120 years cycle of

> our favorite Vimshottri.

>

> The first dasha was of Rahu which ended on 2/4/72. Jupiter dasha ran for 8

> years from 2/4/72 to 2/4/80. Jupiter is FB, well placed, quite strong and

> aspected closely by FB Sun. The gold price rose from $48 to $637, about 13

> times.

>

> Then came dasha of Saturn. Saturn is badly placed in the 12H. Gold dropped

> from $637 to $360, about one half in 9 1/2 years during 2/4/80 to 8/4/89.

> Mercury period ran from 8/4/89 to 2/4/97 for 8 1/2 years. Mercury is FM,

> weak and afflicted, although well placed. The gold stayed around $360,

> losing intrinsic value when compared to dollar.

>

> Then came Ketu dasha from 2/4/97 to 8/4/00. Ketu is MMP, badly placed,

> and on MEP. The price of Gold dropped from $360 to $277, losing

> significantly in terms of other currencies. The dasha of Venus started on

> 8/4/200 for 10 years. Venus is FB, quite strong and well placed. Gold has

> already moved from $277 to $700. In my view it can easily go to $1200 or

> more by the time Venus ends. Then would come the best Sun Dasha for 3

> years, followed by equally good Moon dasha for 5 years. Go figure what

> could be the price of Gold on 8/4/18.

>

> These are my views based on a hypothetical generally unacceptable dasha

> system, and it is possible that the results may be quite contrary to my

> predictions. I ask for forgiveness if anybody is offended by the use of

> this dasha. This model is good only for looking at the long term price

> movements of the Gold, not short term. Other people may criticize,

> validate or expand the idea further. Please do your own research before

> putting your own money.

>

> Thanks

>

> Raj Chadha

Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Mr. Raj Chadha,

>

> By 'upcoming weekly view,' I meant direction for the week ahead. Nothing

> elaborate, just a paragraph. For example, " In this week started May 29,

> expect a fall overall in the index. Monday through Wednesdays are good for

> shorts, while Thursday from mid-day looks congested for the rest of the

> week, erring on the side of short. The best time to sell is 11am on

> Monday. "

> I am busy with running a fund so I know that time is always an issue.

>

> To your other email today, the debate can continue for long time on

> whether

> the place is Washington, NY or Chicago, etc. By my suggestion above, one

> proves the validity of the chart in a real time. No one can argue with

> that

> approach.

>

> Additionally, I am interested in your modified Vimshottri dasha. You can

> email me off the list if you care to share it. As far as GOLD goes, I have

> been very accurate with transit chart and an understanding of the planets,

> signs and aspects. So it will be interesting to plot the natal you

> indicate

> and mate with the modified dasha. This is all about research so don't be

> afraid to pitch your ideas. If you get flak for it, no problem - we can

> discuss via email. God is the only one who has it all figured out, we just

> have little parts of it.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> Vyas Munidas

>

>

>

> -

> " Raj Cgadha " <rkctech

> <SAMVA >

> Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:03 PM

> Re: Recent panic in stock markets

>

>

> > Dear Vyas Muni Das:

> >

> > Could you please elaborate on what would you like to see on " Upcoming

> > Weekly View " . I am not a full time astrologer; writing something every

> > week may be slightly difficult.

> >

> > Regarding Gold, I do not feel that I have the tools to predict the daily

> > movements. But after doing some serious research I have found a chart

> > that

> > quite nicely shows the past long-term movements of the Gold price. The

> > chart is based on the first fix of the Gold price in London (Feb 19,

> > 1968,

> > 9:40 AM, London, England). This chart with a slightly modified Ayanamsha

> > and modified Vimshottri dasha explains the fluctuations in the Gold

> > price

> > since 1968 so nicely that you would be amazed. Since this involves a

> > modification of the Vimshottri dasha, the SAMVA group and our esteemed

> > Prof Chaudhry may not be comfortable with it. And I have no intention of

> > disturbing anyone. I will therefore not reveal this part of my research.

> >

> > Thanks and Good luck.

> >

> > Raj

> >

> > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote: Dear Mr. Raj Chadha (and

> > List),

> >

> > Thank you very much for bringing out these points. I have looked at the

> > situations you have pointed out. There is a very strong corelation. It's

> > certainly worth analyzing for future trends. How about an upcoming

> > weekly

> > view?

> >

> > On another note, today when the Ke-Mo asp was close, GOLD stopped its

> > downward push. I was short EUR/USD this morning in my belief that USD

> > will

> > run hard with in the second part of the week to the 1.2700 target (see

> > my

> > Wednesday market view on vyas.ca). I wasn't sure what the effect would

> > have

> > been on GOLD, but I was certain with the dark Moon, there may be some

> > rukus

> > with fiery, karmic Ketu on the job. The levels 640 and 655 contained the

> > movement perfectly. If we moved to 635 on the Ke-Mo aspect, I would have

> > shorted it heavily. Next week, weakness in GOLD is likely and USD should

> > rally. GL & GT.

> >

> >

> > Best regards,

> >

> > Vyas Munidas

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > " Raj Cgadha " <rkctech

> > <SAMVA >

> > Friday, May 26, 2006 1:23 PM

> > Re: Re: Recent panic in the world markets

> >

> >

> > > Friends:

> > >

> > > OK, So you want me to show you more clearly that this NASDAQ chart

> > > projects the stock market fluctuations. Although " Cosmologer " has

> > > simplified my work, I would give you a few examples.

> > >

> > > Let us start with the Oct 19, 1987 crash. The FM's Rahu and Ketu were

> > > stationery exactly on 6th and 12th MEP's. FM Mercury was aspecting

> > > weak

> > > Saturn, and transiting Jupiter was aspecting natal Ketu. Combine this

> > > with

> > > the dasha of Merc/Ketu/Rahu, all FM's for Aries ascendant. In fact

> > > this

> > > chart shows 1987 crash better than any other chart.

> > >

> > > The 2000 stock market slowdown started on 03/02/2000. Rahu Ketu once

> > > again played the role. They became stationery on MEP of 4th and 10th

> > > houses, aspecting 6th, 8th and 12th houses, and natal Mercury and

> > > Moon.

> > > Dasha was of Mer/Sat. Saturn was very weak in transit and conjuncting

> > > weak

> > > natal Saturn.

> > >

> > > For more evidence please study the transits and dashas of Oct 1990,

> > > Oct

> > > 1998, Oct 2002, (significant bottoms), and Jan 2004, when a

> > > significant

> > > top was established.

> > >

> > > The US market saw the explosion of technology, communication, and

> > > networking in 1980's and 1990's. This coincides with the Mercury

> > > mahadasha

> > > of this chart from 1984 to 2001. Mercury is aspected by strong Moon.

> > > Now

> > > the areas are dormant in the dasha of Ketu.

> > >

> > > As Cosmologer pointed out better days are ahead in Ven/Ven. But the

> > > gains

> > > may not come in the technology area. Look for financials,

> > > entertainment,

> > > and transportation areas.

> > >

> > > Thanks and regards to all of you great souls in the service of

> > > Astrology

> > >

> > > Raj Chadha

> > >

> > > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

> > > Dear C,

> > >

> > > Outstanding work as usual!

> > >

> > >

> > > Best regards,

> > >

> > > Vyas Munidas

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > " Cosmologer " <cosmologer

> > > <samva >

> > > Wednesday, May 24, 2006 5:33 PM

> > > Re: Recent panic in the world markets

> > >

> > >

> > >> Hello Raj Chada, Vyas Munidas and list,

> > >>

> > >> Raj has mentioned the chart for the first trade on the Nasdaq. This

> > >> chart

> > >> has

> > >>

> > >> - L1 Mars badly placed in H8.

> > >> - Income lord, Saturn, is debilitated in H1.

> > >> - Jupiter, L9 of luck, is badly placed and weak in H8, but conjunct

> > >> MEP

> > >> of

> > >> H8 and aspecting also H12, H2 and H4. This placement brings some easy

> > >> gains.

> > >> - L7 Venus is closely aspecting H9 (and H3), somewhat offsetting the

> > >> weakness of Jupiter for the luck.

> > >> - L4 Moon is strong and well placed on MEP of H4, but closely

> > >> afflicted

> > >> by

> > >> L12 Mercury on MEP of H10. The aspect of Mercury on L4 and H4 is

> > >> partially

> > >> protected against by the favourable aspect of Jupiter on L4 and H4

> > >> and

> > >> the

> > >> conjunction of L4 and H4 MEP.

> > >> - Nodes are not afflicting in chart, with Rahu in H11 and Ketu in H5.

> > >> - L5 Sun is well placed in H10 and closely aspected by L11 Saturn in

> > >> H1.

> > >>

> > >> From December 1996 to November 2001, the Me/Ju and Me/Sa periods

> > >> were

> > >> running. This would have been a period when the going was good, but

> > >> due

> > >> to

> > >> the weakness of both Jupiter and Saturn, the stock exchange would

> > >> have

> > >> been vulnerable to setbacks during transit afflictions.

> > >>

> > >> During the market drop in late March to mid April 2000, the nodes

> > >> were

> > >> afflicting the MEPs of H4 and H10 and other even numbered houses as

> > >> well

> > >> as L4 Moon and L12 Mercury. Prior to the exact conjunction in March

> > >> and

> > >> April, the nodes had been stationary at around 9°. This development

> > >> is

> > >> therefore consistent with the chart and transit-period dynamics.

> > >>

> > >> Some earlier drops were also associated with the nodes going over

> > >> MEPs

> > >> of

> > >> houses. So, the chart seems to be authentic, as are many " first

> > >> trade "

> > >> charts.

> > >>

> > >> From November 2008, when the Ve/Ve period begins, would promise to

> > >> be

> > >> a

> > >> good period for the Nasdaq stock exchange.

> > >>

> > >> Best regards,

> > >>

> > >> C

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <muni> wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>> Dear Mr Raj Chadha,

> > >>>

> > >>> Thanks for the email and the chart. It looks interesting.

> > >>>

> > >>> May I suggest that you bring out several time periods of the past

> > >>> where

> > >>> great strength or weakness were indicated in this chart and the

> > >>> corelation

> > >>> was perfect with the price charts. This way confidence to explore

> > >>> can

> > >>> build.

> > >>> It's also a good idea to provide an upcoming weekly view (or other

> > >>> time

> > >>> frame) on a regular basis. This arbs out the chart's validity.

> > >>>

> > >>> This is an Aries ASC chart. During presnet tr Mars' debilitation (in

> > >>> addition to nodal affliction), one cannot expect huge gains. In

> > >>> general,

> > >>> for

> > >>> strong buying trends we look to the tr condition of Sun and Saturn;

> > >>> all

> > >>> other benefics play a supporting role.

> > >>>

> > >>> Again, thanks for following up on this. We need more men/women to

> > >>> bravely

> > >>> show their financial SA views. My motto in this regards is, only the

> > >>> markets

> > >>> can prove me wrong.

> > >>>

> > >>> Justifing your chart and spewing your views will be easy as you have

> > >>> done

> > >>> your homework.

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Best regards,

> > >>>

> > >>> Vyas Munidas

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> -

> > >>> " Raj Cgadha " <rkctech

> > >>> <SAMVA >

> > >>> Wednesday, May 24, 2006 3:06 PM

> > >>> Re: Re: Recent panic in the world markets

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> > Drars Vyas Munidas, List and Prof. Chaudhry:

> > >>> >

> > >>> > One of the area I am working on is to find the appropriate chart

> > >>> > that

> > >>> > would emulate the movements of the stock market or commodities. In

> > >>> > my

> > >>> > view, of all the stock markets of the world, Nasdaq stock market

> > >>> > chart

> > >>> > is

> > >>> > the one that has been most appropriately indicating the

> > >>> > fluctuations

> > >>> > in

> > >>> > the US and world markets for the last 30 years. When you study its

> > >>> > chart

> > >>> > (Feb 8, 1971, 10AM, NY, EST), you find that presently the

> > >>> > functional

> > >>> > malefics Rahu and Ketu are transiting over the MEP of the 12th and

> > >>> > 6th

> > >>> > houses exactly. The other FM Mercury has recently transited over

> > >>> > weak

> > >>> > Saturn in the 1st house. In my opinion it was this combination of

> > >>> > three

> > >>> > malefics AND dasha of Ke/Ju that has precipitated crash in the

> > >>> > world

> > >>> > markets. Now Mercury has come to malign the MEP of second house.

> > >>> > Rahu

> > >>> > and

> > >>> > Ketu will continue to effect the 12th and 6th houses for few more

> > >>> > days.

> > >>> > On

> > >>> > June 15, they will be far enough to be considered safe. I will

> > >>> > therefore

> > >>> > stay away from buying until June 15.

> > >>> >

> > >>> > These are my views, please test and accept if you like.

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Thanks to all of you

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Raj Chadha

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Raj Cgadha <rkctech wrote:

> > >>> > Vyas Munidas:

> > >>> >

> > >>> > I agree with you that a lot of work has to be done on Financial

> > >>> > SA.

> > >>> > I

> > >>> > have been

> > >>> > doing financial astrology for the last 5-6 years, and published

> > >>> > articles

> > >>> > in 'The Internantional Astrologer magazine. Noticing the strength

> > >>> > of

> > >>> > SA,

> > >>> > I recently started practicing SA. I am reevalating my old research

> > >>> > in

> > >>> > this

> > >>> > new light, and will publish my results soon. Please stay tuned.

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Raj K. Chadha

> > >>> > Author of " A Practical Guide to Hindu Astrology "

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Vyas Munidas <muni> wrote:

> > >>> > Thanks for the data C. I'll have a look.

> > >>> >

> > >>> > So far Jorge's chart is fantastic.

> > >>> >

> > >>> > In financial SA, there's lots of pioneering work to be done, If

> > >>> > there

> > >>> > is

> > >>> > interest and experience amongst list members to pioneer work in

> > >>> > financial

> > >>> > SA, perhaps the time is almost right to start something. I'm

> > >>> > looking

> > >>> > for

> > >>> > men/women with a good background in SA, strongly involved in the

> > >>> > financial

> > >>> > markets - contributors at this point, learners can come later when

> > >>> > there

> > >>> > is

> > >>> > something tangible to learn.

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Not the sort of endeavour to come ask, " help me with my share

> > >>> > price, "

> > >>> > rather, " I've found that x planet is the primary significator for

> > >>> > Y

> > >>> > commodity, here's a historical price chart and an accompanying

> > >>> > planetary

> > >>> > strength plot. "

> > >>> >

> > >>> > If interested, send me your chart details.

> > >>> >

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Best regards,

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Vyas Munidas

> > >>> >

> > >>> >

> > >>> >

> > >>> > -

> > >>> > " cosmologer " <cosmologer

> > >>> > <SAMVA >

> > >>> > Monday, May 01, 2006 3:40 PM

> > >>> > Re: OIL and GOLD

> > >>> >

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Hello Vyas,

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Mercury rules commerce in SA, while Rahu rules salesmen. Jupiter

> > >>> > rules finance and the Sun, along with Jupiter, rules banking

> > >>> > activities, as the confidence of the state is important for such

> > >>> > trustworthy enterprises. Mercury, however, also rules

> > >>> > communication

> > >>> > and transmittal of information. The link of Mercury to stock

> > >>> > markets

> > >>> > is well established whatever the exact mechanism. In the chart I

> > >>> > mentioned earlier, Mercury became also L3, ruling confidence. As

> > >>> > it

> > >>> > was weak in that chart, at 1° Pisces in H9, the confidence became

> > >>> > vulnerable to setbacks associated with transit afflictions.

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Ratification of Articles of Confederation

> > >>> > 1 March 1781

> > >>> > 03:18 PM

> > >>> > Philadelpia, USA

> > >>> > 75W10, 39N57

> > >>> > 21° Cancer 06'

> > >>> >

> > >>> > I should note that John TWB on this list has warned that the

> > >>> > time of day in question is not consistent with the historical

> > >>> > records. The time was intuitively arrived at by the person

> > >>> > offering

> > >>> > this chart.

> > >>> >

> > >>> > Best regards,

> > >>> >

> > >>> > C

> > >>> >

> > >>> >

> > >>> > SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@> wrote:

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> Dear C,

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> Mercury, in my opinion does not rule markets directly, rather it

> > >>> > rules the

> > >>> >> technical side of the brain and in turn, technical trading. One

> > >>> > may imagine

> > >>> >> that price moves in most markets are technical and algorithmic

> > >>> > driven and

> > >>> >> fundamentals (or funnymentals) set the macro trends. When the

> > >>> > technical side

> > >>> >> is shot, all that is left is neurotic sentiment based - mass

> > >>> > buying or

> > >>> >> selling. The rational part of the brain becomes weak - you may

> > >>> > note this by

> > >>> >> a sequence of 23% intraday pullbacks rather than full on 38, 50%

> > >>> > or deeper.

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> Saturn sitting in Cn even outside the gain/fluctuation given by

> > >>> >> Ra

> > >>> > will

> > >>> >> still make gains/remain stable. I believe caution is required

> > >>> >> when

> > >>> > Mars

> > >>> >> enters Cn, debilitated. Here real estate prices can start to

> > >>> > suffer as well.

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> This can be the first signs to the masses that such real estate

> > >>> > trees don't

> > >>> >> grow to the sky and the Fed's tightening of interest rates are

> > >>> > having

> > >>> >> effect. Best bet is to buy lots of real estate 3-4 years from now

> > >>> > when there

> > >>> >> are alot of foreclosures and max pinch is felt - horrible to

> > >>> >> face,

> > >>> > but

> > >>> >> that's the timing for this sector.

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> For the most part, my focus isn't on any SMs - I find this a

> > >>> > pointless

> > >>> >> endeavour when there are deeply liquid markets like Gold,

> > >>> > Currencies and Oil

> > >>> >> readily available. I can accurately predict the SP and DOW from

> > >>> >> understanding mass psychology through astrology and technicals,

> > >>> > but I don't

> > >>> >> trade it so there's no point to me.

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> On the USA charts, I haven't reviewed the other chart you

> > >>> > mentioned. What

> > >>> >> are the details? Funny that you mentioned 9-11; I was wondering

> > >>> >> if

> > >>> > anyone

> > >>> >> has any stored exchanges on it. Please forward or direct me to

> > >>> >> it.

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> Best regards,

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> Vyas Munidas

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> -

> > >>> >> " cosmologer " <cosmologer@>

> > >>> >> <SAMVA >

> > >>> >> Monday, May 01, 2006 10:43 AM

> > >>> >> Re: OIL and GOLD

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> Hello Vyas,

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> Thank you for the explanation for your predictions.

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> The transit strength of Mercury has been shown to be important

> > >>> >> for

> > >>> >> the stock market generally. However, national influences also are

> > >>> >> important. In my experience, national charts are very important

> > >>> >> for

> > >>> >> the overall conditions and sentiments of investors.

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> [side note: the link to a natal chart is also important. In

> > >>> >> 2002 and 2003 the close affliction of transit L8 Saturn in H12 to

> > >>> >> natal L3 Mercury in H9 in the 21° Cancer rising chart for the USA

> > >>> >> based on Articles of Confederation on 1 March 1781 was shown to

> > >>> >> be

> > >>> >> important. As predicted by at that time, the

> > >>> >> stock market rose upon the seperation of this transit affliction.

> > >>> >> That chart also very well predicted the events of September 2001,

> > >>> >> including a prediction for a crisis and a drop in the stock

> > >>> >> exchange, as well as military activity by the USA. The start of

> > >>> >> US

> > >>> >> attacks in Afghanistan was predicted by Neville Lange based on

> > >>> >> this

> > >>> >> chart to within 15 minutes of the actual event on 7 October. If

> > >>> > this

> > >>> >> chart is not authentic, such predictions were a fluke, but the

> > >>> >> only

> > >>> >> way to find out is to perform repeat predictions, including of

> > >>> >> the

> > >>> >> 15° Scorpio rising chart for the USA rectified by Jorge Angelino

> > >>> >> based on the Declaration of Independence on 2 July 1776.]

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> The transit aspect of Rahu to Saturn has proven itself to be very

> > >>> >> important for the price of oil, as seen in 1998 when Saturn was

> > >>> >> debilitated in Aries and Rahu was in Leo the oil price fell to

> > >>> >> around $10. When the affliction seperated, the oil price quickly

> > >>> >> recovered. The present affliction of Rahu in Pisces has involved

> > >>> >> a

> > >>> >> stronger Saturn in Cancer, and the price of oil has actually

> > >>> >> risen.

> > >>> >> As Rahu´s influence is to generate volatility, the easing of the

> > >>> >> affliction should result in a reversion to some long-term mean.

> > >>> >> In

> > >>> >> other words, lower oil prices are expected in the months ahead.

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> What determines the strength of gold seems to be more elusive.

> > >>> >> Earlier, linked it to the transit of Jupiter,

> > >>> >> in

> > >>> >> particular its passage through Leo. At the same time, he noted

> > >>> >> that

> > >>> >> demand in the gold consuming countries was important for the

> > >>> >> price.

> > >>> >> The demand in China and other fast growing countries, has been an

> > >>> >> important component of the price rise in gold. This should be

> > >>> >> seen

> > >>> >> in the authentic chart for China. Jorge Angelino has rectified a

> > >>> >> chart for China, which could be tested with predictions. The gold

> > >>> >> price has since moved to Virgo and Libra and the price of gold

> > >>> >> has

> > >>> >> continued to rise. the 18° - 19° have been found to be important

> > >>> >> to

> > >>> >> sharp rises in the gold price.

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> The gold price could also be linked to financial stability stress

> > >>> >> involving the USA. For instance, the long term interest rates in

> > >>> > the

> > >>> >> USA have risen since mid 2005, likely reflecting rising inflation

> > >>> >> expectations. The actual mechanism could be an expectation of a

> > >>> >> weaker dollar associated with the long term current account

> > >>> > deficit,

> > >>> >> which is a big component of global trade imbalances.

> > >>> >> Alternatively,

> > >>> >> the high and rising oil price rise and increased riskiness of the

> > >>> >> global economy due to Iran´s nuclear ambitions and tense

> > >>> >> situation

> > >>> >> in the mid east, could be making investors increase the return

> > >>> >> demanded (higher long term interest rates) to compensate for this

> > >>> >> risk. The investors could also be increasingly moving into

> > >>> >> alternative assets, like gold. The higher gold price would then

> > >>> >> reflect increased investor demand for safer reserve assets than

> > >>> >> dollar based financial instruments. Whatever, such influences

> > >>> > should

> > >>> >> be reflected in the authentic chart of the USA.

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> Accurate predictions of financial variables on the basis of

> > >>> >> astrology, both in transit and in relation to national charts, by

> > >>> >> you and others is bound to help shed light on what it

> > >>> >> is that explains these movements.

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> Best regards,

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> C

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> PS a Powerpoint file showing the transit strength of planets in

> > >>> > 2006

> > >>> >> is available in the files section of SAMVA web page. The

> > >>> >> graphical

> > >>> >> or visual representation is helpful to gauge the varying strength

> > >>> > of

> > >>> >> the planets at a given time.

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >>

> > >>> > http://f2.grp.fs.com/v1/UAZWRKC8ppwzmxG88vTe3Z3ThClpQH7nrYd8G9D9

> > >>> >> WDECr94wTFOues484qoMohNTU7XZt5fbsTfOunF3v-dqMF83p_7EA_MG/Transit%

> > >>> >> 20strength%20of%20planets%20in%202006.ppt

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> About strength & calculation method

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> Strength:

> > >>> >> Strength is calculated in %.

> > >>> >> 100% means the planet has full strength.

> > >>> >> 0% means it has none.

> > >>> >> A planet needs about 60% strength to defend its indications from

> > >>> >> severe transit affliction.

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> Caclulation method:

> > >>> >> The strength of planet is calculated for infancy and old age

> > >>> >> (does

> > >>> >> not apply to nodes) - ranges from 0% to 100%.

> > >>> >> The strength of a planet is calculated when in a state of

> > >>> > combustion

> > >>> >> with the Sun (does not apply to Sun and nodes) - ranges from 0%

> > >>> >> to

> > >>> >> 100%.

> > >>> >> A planet is calculated to have 50% strength when transiting

> > >>> >> through

> > >>> >> its sign of debilitation

> > >>> >> When a planet is transiting through a Moolatrikona (MT) sign, the

> > >>> >> strength of the dispositor, the planet owning the MT sign

> > >>> >> (excludes

> > >>> >> nodes), is considered - ranges from 0% to 100%

> > >>> >> The lowest value, based on the above criteria, is selected.

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >>

> > >>> >> SAMVA , " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@> wrote:

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> > Dear List,

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> > Here is my view on the markets this week:-

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> > Mercury moves out of its sign of debilitation on Monday around

> > >>> >> 9pm. It's

> > >>> >> > weak by degree until Thursday 2pm. This marks an end to

> > >>> >> > neurotic

> > >>> >> trading. We

> > >>> >> > are likely to see a return to stability and more rational

> > >>> >> technical

> > >>> >> > behaviour across all markets and instruments.

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> > Ra/Sa affliction is no longer exact, and Venus has moved from

> > >>> >> Aquarius.

> > >>> >> > We are likely to see a stabilization in oil prices and good

> > >>> >> > dips.

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> > Jupiter and Sun closely aspect each other. Gold will continue

> > >>> >> > to

> > >>> >> be bought

> > >>> >> > on dips. Gold can make a new high this week. Best to buy at 635

> > >>> >> area for a

> > >>> >> > 20+ dollar run.

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> > As Sa/Ra move further apart, global tensions are likely to

> > >>> >> > ease.

> > >>> >> The Sun in

> > >>> >> > Aries continues to keep the US gov't under pressure for 14 more

> > >>> >> days.

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> > Recommendations:

> > >>> >> > 1) Buy GOLD

> > >>> >> > 2) Buy USD in the early part of the week - the momentum for

> > >>> >> shorting in the

> > >>> >> > last few weeks is likely to continue and test USD lows.

> > >>> >> > 3) Oil can be bought on dips for a few dollars rise at a time -

> > >>> >> the momentum

> > >>> >> > is still hot and uncertainity still prevades.

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> > Best regards,

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> > Vyas Munidas

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> > -

> > >>> >> > " Vyas Munidas " <munidas@>

> > >>> >> > < >; <SAMVA >

> > >>> >> > Tuesday, April 18, 2006 9:16 PM

> > >>> >> > OIL and GOLD

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> >

> > >>> >> > > Dear list,

> > >>> >> > >

> > >>> >> > > We are hitting fantastic highs in Oil and Gold. USD has taken

> > >>> >> quite a

> > >>> >> > > tumble

> > >>> >> > > this week. The oil rise is due to a very simple reason -

> > >>> >> > > Venus

> > >>> >> sits in

> > >>> >> > > Aquarius. We can expect prices to stay hot for the next 10

> > >>> > days.

> > >>> >> The

> > >>> >> > > momentum will probably wane after that. Things are likely to

> > >>> >> remain a

> > >>> >> > > little

> > >>> >> > > unstable after that, for another two weeks until the Sun

> > >>> >> > > moves

> > >>> >> out of

> > >>> >> > > Aries.

> > >>> >> > > Roughly 24 days in total. 80/brl is possible.

> > >>> >> > >

> > >>> >> > > I've had GOLD targets pegged at 600 and 625; (624 was hit

> > >>> >> within the last

> > >>> >> > > two hours) . There is more gain in the cards, with support

> > >>> >> beginning in

> > >>> >> > > the

> > >>> >> > > 590's. All the dips are likely to be bought strongly. The 650

> > >>> >> area will be

> > >>> >> > > psychologically strong to penetrate.

> > >>> >> > >

> > >>> >> > > May all your investments be fruitful and the profits from

> > >>> >> > > them

> > >>> >> well used.

> > >>> >> > >

> > >>> >> > >

> > >>> >> > > Best regards,

> > >>> >> > >

> > >>> >> > > Vyas Munidas

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great

> > >> rates starting at 1 & cent;/min.

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

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> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear List,

 

Gold kept positive with the Ju-Su aspect. It has moved over the 680

resistance to touch 685 today. With ex Sun in Aries, the positive bias

should remain intact. As its dispositor Mars transits Aq with Sa badly

placed, full benefit may not be there to cross the 730 mark, but a 15 dollar

move towards 700 is well within the scope of gains.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

 

 

-

" Vyas Munidas " <muni>

<SAMVA >

Wednesday, April 04, 2007 2:03 PM

GOLD

 

 

Dear List,

 

Ju-Su aspect is close from today; both planets are significators of gold.

With other key planets weak or moving towards weakness, gravity is towards

gold is likely. Illustrated today, it has hit the highest level in weeks.

The potential exists for greater increases. Currently it's trading at 672.

680 is technical resistance; beyond there is the 690 and 700 level. A 25

dollar gain in a few trading days isn't uncommon.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Vyas Munidas

[Guest guest]

Dear Professor C,

 

You have identified the Sun and Jupiter as the significators for Gold.

 

It has made an all time price high and continues an upward trend when both

planets are in their signs of debilitation. You have said that a debilitated

planet loses 50% of its strength. Please give your view on how this has

occurred according to astrological factors. Is there something new that you

can share with us?

 

 

Jason Smith

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hello dear Mr. Smith,

 

The prices of precious metals (gold) depends on so many factors in the global

economy.

 

At this particular time even the significaor of real estate and financial

markets were also weak and debilitated.

 

The lack of confidence in real estate, financial markets, currency, etc. inter

alia other factors resulted in the rising price of gold.

 

 

 

-

jason smith

SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

Friday, November 13, 2009 7:44 PM

[systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

 

 

 

Dear Professor C,

 

You have identified the Sun and Jupiter as the significators for Gold.

 

It has made an all time price high and continues an upward trend when both

planets are in their signs of debilitation. You have said that a debilitated

planet loses 50% of its strength. Please give your view on how this has

occurred according to astrological factors. Is there something new that you

can share with us?

 

Jason Smith

 

[Guest guest]

 Pranam Guruji,

 

but why Gold pricing going higher and higher. I understand economic point of

view but if we think accroding to astroligically  then should be going down

becoz Sun is in Libra so why gold moving higher?

 

Regards

 

RP

 

 

 

 

________________________________

<vkchoudhry

SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

Fri, November 13, 2009 10:00:34 AM

Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

 

Hello dear Mr. Smith,

 

The prices of precious metals (gold) depends on so many factors in the global

economy.

 

At this particular time even the significaor of real estate and financial

markets were also weak and debilitated.

 

The lack of confidence in real estate, financial markets, currency, etc. inter

alia other factors resulted in the rising price of gold.

 

 

 

-

  jason smith

  SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

  Friday, November 13, 2009 7:44 PM

  [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

 

 

   

  Dear Professor C,

 

  You have identified the Sun and Jupiter as the significators for Gold.

 

  It has made an all time price high and continues an upward trend when both

  planets are in their signs of debilitation. You have said that a debilitated

  planet loses 50% of its strength. Please give your view on how this has

  occurred according to astrological factors. Is there something new that you

  can share with us?

 

  Jason Smith

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Professor C,

 

Are you concluding that there is no way to astrologically ascertain the

trends in the gold market with the current global paradigm, and that the

significators Jupiter and the Sun cannot simply be relied upon for

predictions?

 

My suspicion is that there is more to be read into the current debilitation

of the Sun. This time Venus is in its own MTH lending strength. I would like

to say cancellation of debilitation, but such terminology is unstable at

best. Any insights would be appreciated.

 

 

Jason Smith

 

 

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:00 AM, <vkchoudhry wrote:

 

> Hello dear Mr. Smith,

>

> The prices of precious metals (gold) depends on so many factors in the

> global economy.

>

> At this particular time even the significaor of real estate and financial

> markets were also weak and debilitated.

>

> The lack of confidence in real estate, financial markets, currency, etc.

> inter alia other factors resulted in the rising price of gold.

>

>

>

> -

> jason smith

> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

> Friday, November 13, 2009 7:44 PM

> [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

>

>

>

> Dear Professor C,

>

> You have identified the Sun and Jupiter as the significators for Gold.

>

> It has made an all time price high and continues an upward trend when both

> planets are in their signs of debilitation. You have said that a

> debilitated

> planet loses 50% of its strength. Please give your view on how this has

> occurred according to astrological factors. Is there something new that

> you

> can share with us?

>

> Jason Smith

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello dear Mr. Smith,

 

When the gold was going up even for some time upto 3rd November, Venus was in

its sign of debilitation. There is a natural phenomenon that when people lose

confidence in all other forms of investments they prefer gold. Certainly,

cancellation of debilitation is not the reason.

 

 

 

-

jason smith

SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:26 AM

Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

 

 

Dear Professor C,

 

Are you concluding that there is no way to astrologically ascertain the

trends in the gold market with the current global paradigm, and that the

significators Jupiter and the Sun cannot simply be relied upon for

predictions?

 

My suspicion is that there is more to be read into the current debilitation

of the Sun. This time Venus is in its own MTH lending strength. I would like

to say cancellation of debilitation, but such terminology is unstable at

best. Any insights would be appreciated.

 

 

Jason Smith

 

 

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:00 AM, <vkchoudhry wrote:

 

> Hello dear Mr. Smith,

>

> The prices of precious metals (gold) depends on so many factors in the

> global economy.

>

> At this particular time even the significaor of real estate and financial

> markets were also weak and debilitated.

>

> The lack of confidence in real estate, financial markets, currency, etc.

> inter alia other factors resulted in the rising price of gold.

>

>

>

> -

> jason smith

> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

> Friday, November 13, 2009 7:44 PM

> [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

>

>

>

> Dear Professor C,

>

> You have identified the Sun and Jupiter as the significators for Gold.

>

> It has made an all time price high and continues an upward trend when both

> planets are in their signs of debilitation. You have said that a

> debilitated

> planet loses 50% of its strength. Please give your view on how this has

> occurred according to astrological factors. Is there something new that

> you

> can share with us?

>

> Jason Smith

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello list members,

 

We all know that the USA is the preeminent economic power in the world and many

commodities are priced in US dollars. This internation role of the dollar has

come under debate in recent months. This is in line with predictions concerning

the transit station of 6th lord Jupiter over the natal 2nd lord Sun in the SAMVA

USA chart. This affliction has been in place for some months but will soon lift.

It was suggested that this transit would result in problems for the US financial

position, manifesting either as a lower value of the dollar or higher interest

rates. This could be associated with rising inflation expectations. In turn,

this could be tied to the sharply increasing national debt of the USA. Indeed,

these strains manifest as predicted. A corollary of the temporary reduced

confidence in the US dollar is a rise in the value of gold. As most people do

not own gold, this is not a general problem. The general problem is the value of

the dollar.

The rise in the gold price should therefore not be interpreted as reflecting

the intrinsic value of gold but rather it is a reflection of the temporary

weakness of the dollar. So, to look for astrological indications of gold

strength at this time may be a misplaced effort. In the fourth week of November,

when transit Jupiter is over 2° from its conjunction of natal Sun, transit Sun

regains strength in transit, transit 10th lord Mars positively aspects natal

Sun,  and transit Venus moves away from natal Ketu while still in its own sign,

we can see if some reversal has taken place in both the value of the dollar and

gold. If so, it would suggest this transit station over the natal Sun in the USA

chart is the dominant factor.

 

Thor

 

 

 

 

________________________________

<vkchoudhry

Newsys <systemsApproachToVedic Astrology >

Fri, November 13, 2009 7:23:27 PM

Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

 

 

Hello dear Mr. Smith,

 

When the gold was going up even for some time upto 3rd November, Venus was in

its sign of debilitation.  There is a natural phenomenon that when people lose

confidence in all other forms of investments they prefer gold.  Certainly,

cancellation of debilitation is not the reason.

 

 

 

-

  jason smith

  SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

  Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:26 AM

  Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

 

 

  Dear Professor C,

 

  Are you concluding that there is no way to astrologically ascertain the

  trends in the gold market with the current global paradigm, and that the

  significators Jupiter and the Sun cannot simply be relied upon for

  predictions?

 

  My suspicion is that there is more to be read into the current debilitation

  of the Sun. This time Venus is in its own MTH lending strength. I would like

  to say cancellation of debilitation, but such terminology is unstable at

  best. Any insights would be appreciated.

 

 

  Jason Smith

 

 

  On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:00 AM, <vkchoudhry wrote:

 

  > Hello dear Mr. Smith,

  >

  > The prices of precious metals (gold) depends on so many factors in the

  > global economy.

  >

  > At this particular time even the significaor of real estate and financial

  > markets were also weak and debilitated.

  >

  > The lack of confidence in real estate, financial markets, currency, etc.

  > inter alia other factors resulted in the rising price of gold.

  >

  >

  >

  > -

  >  jason smith

  >  SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

  >  Friday, November 13, 2009 7:44 PM

  >  [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

  >

  >

  >

  >  Dear Professor C,

  >

  >  You have identified the Sun and Jupiter as the significators for Gold.

  >

  >  It has made an all time price high and continues an upward trend when both

  >  planets are in their signs of debilitation. You have said that a

  > debilitated

  >  planet loses 50% of its strength. Please give your view on how this has

  >  occurred according to astrological factors. Is there something new that

  > you

  >  can share with us?

  >

  >  Jason Smith

  >

  > 

[Guest guest]

Dear list member hi!

 

Debilitated planet just act as their condition speak, debilitated; which

means contrary of the expectation!

 

Regards, Branca!

 

 

 

SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

[systemsApproachToVedic Astrology ] On Behalf Of

Cosmologer

13 November 2009 22:30

SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

Cc: samva

Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

 

 

 

 

 

Hello list members,

 

We all know that the USA is the preeminent economic power in the world and

many commodities are priced in US dollars. This internation role of the

dollar has come under debate in recent months. This is in line with

predictions concerning the transit station of 6th lord Jupiter over the

natal 2nd lord Sun in the SAMVA USA chart. This affliction has been in place

for some months but will soon lift. It was suggested that this transit would

result in problems for the US financial position, manifesting either as a

lower value of the dollar or higher interest rates. This could be associated

with rising inflation expectations. In turn, this could be tied to the

sharply increasing national debt of the USA. Indeed, these strains manifest

as predicted. A corollary of the temporary reduced confidence in the US

dollar is a rise in the value of gold. As most people do not own gold, this

is not a general problem. The general problem is the value of the dollar.

The rise in the gold price should therefore not be interpreted as reflecting

the intrinsic value of gold but rather it is a reflection of the temporary

weakness of the dollar. So, to look for astrological indications of gold

strength at this time may be a misplaced effort. In the fourth week of

November, when transit Jupiter is over 2° from its conjunction of natal Sun,

transit Sun regains strength in transit, transit 10th lord Mars positively

aspects natal Sun, and transit Venus moves away from natal Ketu while still

in its own sign, we can see if some reversal has taken place in both the

value of the dollar and gold. If so, it would suggest this transit station

over the natal Sun in the USA chart is the dominant factor.

 

Thor

 

________________________________

<vkchoudhry <vkchoudhry%40gmail.com> >

Newsys <systemsApproachToVedic Astrology

<systemsApproachToVedic Astrology%40> >

Fri, November 13, 2009 7:23:27 PM

Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

 

Hello dear Mr. Smith,

 

When the gold was going up even for some time upto 3rd November, Venus was

in its sign of debilitation. There is a natural phenomenon that when people

lose confidence in all other forms of investments they prefer gold.

Certainly, cancellation of debilitation is not the reason.

 

 

 

-

jason smith

SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

<SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology%40>

Saturday, November 14, 2009 12:26 AM

Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

 

Dear Professor C,

 

Are you concluding that there is no way to astrologically ascertain the

trends in the gold market with the current global paradigm, and that the

significators Jupiter and the Sun cannot simply be relied upon for

predictions?

 

My suspicion is that there is more to be read into the current

debilitation

of the Sun. This time Venus is in its own MTH lending strength. I would

like

to say cancellation of debilitation, but such terminology is unstable at

best. Any insights would be appreciated.

 

Jason Smith

 

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:00 AM, <vkchoudhry

<vkchoudhry%40gmail.com> > wrote:

 

> Hello dear Mr. Smith,

>

> The prices of precious metals (gold) depends on so many factors in the

> global economy.

>

> At this particular time even the significaor of real estate and

financial

> markets were also weak and debilitated.

>

> The lack of confidence in real estate, financial markets, currency, etc.

> inter alia other factors resulted in the rising price of gold.

>

>

>

> -

> jason smith

> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

<SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology%40>

> Friday, November 13, 2009 7:44 PM

> [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

>

>

>

> Dear Professor C,

>

> You have identified the Sun and Jupiter as the significators for Gold.

>

> It has made an all time price high and continues an upward trend when

both

> planets are in their signs of debilitation. You have said that a

> debilitated

> planet loses 50% of its strength. Please give your view on how this has

> occurred according to astrological factors. Is there something new that

> you

> can share with us?

>

> Jason Smith

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello RP,

 

Other planets were/are weak. Venus has recently got strength. Even in such

cases the Sun has some advantage despite debilitation.

 

 

 

-

R.P

SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

Friday, November 13, 2009 10:54 PM

Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

 

 

 

 

Pranam Guruji,

 

but why Gold pricing going higher and higher. I understand economic point of

view but if we think accroding to astroligically then should be going down

becoz Sun is in Libra so why gold moving higher?

 

Regards

 

RP

 

________________________________

<vkchoudhry

SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

Fri, November 13, 2009 10:00:34 AM

Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

 

Hello dear Mr. Smith,

 

The prices of precious metals (gold) depends on so many factors in the global

economy.

 

At this particular time even the significaor of real estate and financial

markets were also weak and debilitated.

 

The lack of confidence in real estate, financial markets, currency, etc. inter

alia other factors resulted in the rising price of gold.

 

 

-

jason smith

SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

Friday, November 13, 2009 7:44 PM

[systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

 

 

Dear Professor C,

 

You have identified the Sun and Jupiter as the significators for Gold.

 

It has made an all time price high and continues an upward trend when both

planets are in their signs of debilitation. You have said that a debilitated

planet loses 50% of its strength. Please give your view on how this has

occurred according to astrological factors. Is there something new that you

can share with us?

 

Jason Smith

 

[Guest guest]

Dear List,

 

another reason was Saturn was restricting gold in leo for 2 and 1/2

years so when it entered Virgo, gold really popped; but beleive me as

Professor says, year end profit taking and Rahu chaning signs, buy base

metals instead or puts.

 

lakshmi

 

On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 9:44 PM, <vkchoudhry wrote:

 

>

> Hello RP,

>

> Other planets were/are weak. Venus has recently got strength. Even in such

> cases the Sun has some advantage despite debilitation.

>

>

>

> -

> R.P

> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

> Friday, November 13, 2009 10:54 PM

> Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

>

>

>

>

> Pranam Guruji,

>

> but why Gold pricing going higher and higher. I understand economic point

> of view but if we think accroding to astroligically then should be going

> down becoz Sun is in Libra so why gold moving higher?

>

> Regards

>

> RP

>

> ________________________________

> <vkchoudhry

> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

> Fri, November 13, 2009 10:00:34 AM

> Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

>

> Hello dear Mr. Smith,

>

> The prices of precious metals (gold) depends on so many factors in the

> global economy.

>

> At this particular time even the significaor of real estate and financial

> markets were also weak and debilitated.

>

> The lack of confidence in real estate, financial markets, currency, etc.

> inter alia other factors resulted in the rising price of gold.

>

>

>

> -

> jason smith

> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

> Friday, November 13, 2009 7:44 PM

> [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

>

>

> Dear Professor C,

>

> You have identified the Sun and Jupiter as the significators for Gold.

>

> It has made an all time price high and continues an upward trend when

> both

> planets are in their signs of debilitation. You have said that a

> debilitated

> planet loses 50% of its strength. Please give your view on how this has

> occurred according to astrological factors. Is there something new that

> you

> can share with us?

>

> Jason Smith

>

>

[Guest guest]

a écrit :

> Hello dear Mr. Smith,

>

> The prices of precious metals (gold) depends on so many factors in the global

economy.

>

> At this particular time even the significaor of real estate and financial

markets were also weak and debilitated.

>

> The lack of confidence in real estate, financial markets, currency, etc. inter

alia other factors resulted in the rising price of gold.

>

>

>

> -

> jason smith

> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

> Friday, November 13, 2009 7:44 PM

> [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

>

>

>

> Dear Professor C,

>

> You have identified the Sun and Jupiter as the significators for Gold.

>

> It has made an all time price high and continues an upward trend when both

> planets are in their signs of debilitation. You have said that a debilitated

> planet loses 50% of its strength. Please give your view on how this has

> occurred according to astrological factors. Is there something new that you

> can share with us?

>

> Jason Smith

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hello my dear Jo,

 

Influence of Rahu adds the element of fluctuations. The situation of Rahu in

sagittarius is one of the factors but not a main factor.

 

 

 

-

Jo Cohen

SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:50 AM

Re: [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

 

 

 

a écrit :

> Hello dear Mr. Smith,

>

> The prices of precious metals (gold) depends on so many factors in the

global economy.

>

> At this particular time even the significaor of real estate and financial

markets were also weak and debilitated.

>

> The lack of confidence in real estate, financial markets, currency, etc.

inter alia other factors resulted in the rising price of gold.

>

>

>

> -

> jason smith

> SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology

> Friday, November 13, 2009 7:44 PM

> [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Gold

>

>

>

> Dear Professor C,

>

> You have identified the Sun and Jupiter as the significators for Gold.

>

> It has made an all time price high and continues an upward trend when both

> planets are in their signs of debilitation. You have said that a debilitated

> planet loses 50% of its strength. Please give your view on how this has

> occurred according to astrological factors. Is there something new that you

> can share with us?

>

> Jason Smith

>

>