Guest guest Posted September 29, 2001 Report Share Posted September 29, 2001 Dear Sanjay, Sixth lord in any house reduces the result of that house. For general planets we treat more points means benefic. For Sixth lord it is not so. Sixth lord will reduce the results, even if it is with more points. ( some other time I remember, I told you, ( not confirmed) that for getting actual reslt of Sixth lord, treat the points of Sixth lord as 8- the points ) Sun and Moon are not treated as 6th lord. Sixth lord in 1st house reduces bodily happiness, more enemies, unlucky. In secon house, is bad for Family, family will break, Some problem with heridatory property. In 3rd house: No attachment in brothers and Sisters. In 4th Accidents, much difficulty in acquiring property. In 5th Enmity with Children, Loss of wisdom, Problem in authority. In 6th More bodily trouble, always struggle to face enmity. 7th house Less marital happiness, Disputes in partenership, More quarrels. 8th house: Reduces Life span. Rise in the life will be with more difficulty, or no rise. Problem regarding Will. 9th house: Disfame 10th house : Always differences with supiriors. Less success in own business. 11th house: Enmity with friends. No big gain 12th house: Loss of Money, Imprisonment. All above results are experienced when sixth lord is with more points. With less points it will be reduced. Jupiter as sixth lord and with more points gives loss of the pleasure due to that house and also malefic result for the houses it aspects. Mars and Saturn as sixth lord are better then Jupiter. Sun and Moon no effect. Now sixth lord for Lagna becames lord of house E. When we are finding the result for First house, ( Individuality) Sixth house becames house E. More powerful sixth lord will give good individuality. If this lord is getting more points in the worksheet for first house, It will defeat the compititors and enemies, and will gain good name. ( Refer the Chart of Prabhu Ram). For finding the success we refer the points in 3:6th :10th and 11th house. Here more points in 6th house compared to 3rd gives good reputation. The sixth lord also indicates victory over compititors or enemies. So as lord of E it gives good result for 1st house. The result is experienced in the sub of sixth lord. Dear Sanjay, You have done a very nice thing for the group, by making the worksheet program. You have made a very good program, It means you have followed the system nicely, so your questions can not be " ....... " . For getting more and more in deep, one should have more questions. Following any thing, or any system, with out any querry, may not be good. Of cource before asking any question one should take trouble to read the writeup. krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > In a mail to Margarita, you had mentioned that the 6th lord generally > creates problems for the chart. I request one or two clarifications on that. > > 1. I suppose the problems are still there when the 6th lord happens to be > Sun or Moon but these are less. Please clarify. > > 2. In my understanding, the lords of D and E never cause any harm to the > native. They are normally supportive of him/her. the 6th lord is lord of E > for the 1st house as B. As the first house represents the self, and the > overall status of the person, how can the lord of 6th make trouble for the > chart? > > Is this because the lord of D and E are eager to give results related to the > house, whether positive or negative? But then the 6th lord should also give > good results. > > I am sorry if I sound stupid again but I really want to understand the > basics of the system before I try detailed interpretations. > > Kind regards > Sanjay > > > _______ > > Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2001 Report Share Posted October 1, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, Thank you for your detailed explanation and encouragement. It is because of your encouragement that I keep asking more and more questions. Of course, I have read all the mails. Sometimes, the mind is forgetful. I beg your indulgence for the times I might have wasted your time. A wrap on the knuckles would be welcome for those times. Coming back to the issue, we then see that Sun and Moon as 6th lords do not show so much malefic effect. So it is better if they have more points. Is that right? Also, this also implies that Aquarius and Pisces ascendants have some inherent advantages, other things being equal, as they have Sun or Moon as the 6th lords which do not cause problems. Is this correct. I am sure you will add other qualifications and I would like to see those. Kind regards Sanjay - <krushanain Sunday, September 30, 2001 3:28 AM Re: 6th lord Dear Sanjay, Sixth lord in any house reduces the result of that house. For general planets we treat more points means benefic. For Sixth lord it is not so. Sixth lord will reduce the results, even if it is with more points. ( some other time I remember, I told you, ( not confirmed) that for getting actual reslt of Sixth lord, treat the points of Sixth lord as 8- the points ) Sun and Moon are not treated as 6th lord. Sixth lord in 1st house reduces bodily happiness, more enemies, unlucky. In secon house, is bad for Family, family will break, Some problem with heridatory property. In 3rd house: No attachment in brothers and Sisters. In 4th Accidents, much difficulty in acquiring property. In 5th Enmity with Children, Loss of wisdom, Problem in authority. In 6th More bodily trouble, always struggle to face enmity. 7th house Less marital happiness, Disputes in partenership, More quarrels. 8th house: Reduces Life span. Rise in the life will be with more difficulty, or no rise. Problem regarding Will. 9th house: Disfame 10th house : Always differences with supiriors. Less success in own business. 11th house: Enmity with friends. No big gain 12th house: Loss of Money, Imprisonment. All above results are experienced when sixth lord is with more points. With less points it will be reduced. Jupiter as sixth lord and with more points gives loss of the pleasure due to that house and also malefic result for the houses it aspects. Mars and Saturn as sixth lord are better then Jupiter. Sun and Moon no effect. Now sixth lord for Lagna becames lord of house E. When we are finding the result for First house, ( Individuality) Sixth house becames house E. More powerful sixth lord will give good individuality. If this lord is getting more points in the worksheet for first house, It will defeat the compititors and enemies, and will gain good name. ( Refer the Chart of Prabhu Ram). For finding the success we refer the points in 3:6th :10th and 11th house. Here more points in 6th house compared to 3rd gives good reputation. The sixth lord also indicates victory over compititors or enemies. So as lord of E it gives good result for 1st house. The result is experienced in the sub of sixth lord. Dear Sanjay, You have done a very nice thing for the group, by making the worksheet program. You have made a very good program, It means you have followed the system nicely, so your questions can not be " ....... " . For getting more and more in deep, one should have more questions. Following any thing, or any system, with out any querry, may not be good. Of cource before asking any question one should take trouble to read the writeup. krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > In a mail to Margarita, you had mentioned that the 6th lord generally > creates problems for the chart. I request one or two clarifications on that. > > 1. I suppose the problems are still there when the 6th lord happens to be > Sun or Moon but these are less. Please clarify. > > 2. In my understanding, the lords of D and E never cause any harm to the > native. They are normally supportive of him/her. the 6th lord is lord of E > for the 1st house as B. As the first house represents the self, and the > overall status of the person, how can the lord of 6th make trouble for the > chart? > > Is this because the lord of D and E are eager to give results related to the > house, whether positive or negative? But then the 6th lord should also give > good results. > > I am sorry if I sound stupid again but I really want to understand the > basics of the system before I try detailed interpretations. > > Kind regards > Sanjay > > > _______ > > Get your free @ address at _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2001 Report Share Posted October 1, 2001 Dear Sanjay, Sun and Moon do not became malefic as a sixth lord. It means those should be treated as we are treating other planets. The effect of the sight remain as it is. Sun or Moon with more points will have their sight malefic. Other planets when becames sixth lord they creats some problem due their situation, and also due to sight. You can treat sixth lord as malefic planet. Even such planet is with more points, will reduce the happiness for the house it is situated. krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > Thank you for your detailed explanation and encouragement. It is because of > your encouragement that I keep asking more and more questions. > > Of course, I have read all the mails. Sometimes, the mind is forgetful. I > beg your indulgence for the times I might have wasted your time. A wrap on > the knuckles would be welcome for those times. > > Coming back to the issue, we then see that Sun and Moon as 6th lords do not > show so much malefic effect. So it is better if they have more points. Is > that right? > > Also, this also implies that Aquarius and Pisces ascendants have some > inherent advantages, other things being equal, as they have Sun or Moon as > the 6th lords which do not cause problems. Is this correct. I am sure you > will add other qualifications and I would like to see those. > > Kind regards > Sanjay > - > <krushanain> > > Sunday, September 30, 2001 3:28 AM > Re: 6th lord > > > Dear Sanjay, > > Sixth lord in any house reduces the result of that house. > For general planets we treat more points means benefic. For Sixth > lord it is not so. Sixth lord will reduce the results, even if it is > with more points. ( some other time I remember, I told you, ( not > confirmed) that for getting actual reslt of Sixth lord, treat the > points of Sixth lord as 8- the points ) Sun and Moon are not treated > as 6th lord. > Sixth lord in 1st house reduces bodily happiness, more > enemies, unlucky. > In secon house, is bad for Family, family will break, Some > problem with heridatory property. > In 3rd house: No attachment in brothers and Sisters. > In 4th Accidents, much difficulty in acquiring property. > In 5th Enmity with Children, Loss of wisdom, Problem in > authority. > In 6th More bodily trouble, always struggle to face enmity. > 7th house Less marital happiness, Disputes in partenership, > More quarrels. > 8th house: Reduces Life span. Rise in the life will be with > more difficulty, or no rise. Problem regarding Will. > 9th house: Disfame > 10th house : Always differences with supiriors. Less > success in own business. > 11th house: Enmity with friends. No big gain > 12th house: Loss of Money, Imprisonment. > > All above results are experienced when sixth lord is with > more points. With less points it will be reduced. Jupiter as sixth > lord and with more points gives loss of the pleasure due to that > house and also malefic result for the houses it aspects. Mars and > Saturn as sixth lord are better then Jupiter. Sun and Moon no effect. > > Now sixth lord for Lagna becames lord of house E. When we > are finding the result for First house, ( Individuality) Sixth house > becames house E. More powerful sixth lord will give good > individuality. If this lord is getting more points in the worksheet > for first house, It will defeat the compititors and enemies, and will > gain good name. ( Refer the Chart of Prabhu Ram). > For finding the success we refer the points in 3:6th :10th > and 11th house. Here more points in 6th house compared to 3rd gives > good reputation. > The sixth lord also indicates victory over compititors or > enemies. So as lord of E it gives good result for 1st house. The > result is experienced in the sub of sixth lord. > Dear Sanjay, You have done a very nice thing for the group, > by making the worksheet program. You have made a very good program, > It means you have followed the system nicely, so your questions can > not be " ....... " . > For getting more and more in deep, one should have more > questions. Following any thing, or any system, with out any querry, > may not be good. Of cource before asking any question one should > take trouble to read the writeup. > > krushna > > > > , " Sanjay Jaggia " > <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > In a mail to Margarita, you had mentioned that the 6th lord > generally > > creates problems for the chart. I request one or two clarifications > on that. > > > > 1. I suppose the problems are still there when the 6th lord happens > to be > > Sun or Moon but these are less. Please clarify. > > > > 2. In my understanding, the lords of D and E never cause any harm > to the > > native. They are normally supportive of him/her. the 6th lord is > lord of E > > for the 1st house as B. As the first house represents the self, and > the > > overall status of the person, how can the lord of 6th make trouble > for the > > chart? > > > > Is this because the lord of D and E are eager to give results > related to the > > house, whether positive or negative? But then the 6th lord should > also give > > good results. > > > > I am sorry if I sound stupid again but I really want to understand > the > > basics of the system before I try detailed interpretations. > > > > Kind regards > > Sanjay > > > > > > _______ > > > > Get your free @ address at > > > > > _______ > > Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 1, 2001 Report Share Posted October 1, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, Then is it true that Aquarius and Pisces ascendants are somewhat benefited? Also, are the 8th and 12th lords not considered malefic in general? Their malefic nature is to be taken only as per the points that they have? Kind regards Sanjay - <krushanain Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:02 AM Re: 6th lord Dear Sanjay, Sun and Moon do not became malefic as a sixth lord. It means those should be treated as we are treating other planets. The effect of the sight remain as it is. Sun or Moon with more points will have their sight malefic. Other planets when becames sixth lord they creats some problem due their situation, and also due to sight. You can treat sixth lord as malefic planet. Even such planet is with more points, will reduce the happiness for the house it is situated. krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > Thank you for your detailed explanation and encouragement. It is because of > your encouragement that I keep asking more and more questions. > > Of course, I have read all the mails. Sometimes, the mind is forgetful. I > beg your indulgence for the times I might have wasted your time. A wrap on > the knuckles would be welcome for those times. > > Coming back to the issue, we then see that Sun and Moon as 6th lords do not > show so much malefic effect. So it is better if they have more points. Is > that right? > > Also, this also implies that Aquarius and Pisces ascendants have some > inherent advantages, other things being equal, as they have Sun or Moon as > the 6th lords which do not cause problems. Is this correct. I am sure you > will add other qualifications and I would like to see those. > > Kind regards > Sanjay > - > <krushanain> > > Sunday, September 30, 2001 3:28 AM > Re: 6th lord > > > Dear Sanjay, > > Sixth lord in any house reduces the result of that house. > For general planets we treat more points means benefic. For Sixth > lord it is not so. Sixth lord will reduce the results, even if it is > with more points. ( some other time I remember, I told you, ( not > confirmed) that for getting actual reslt of Sixth lord, treat the > points of Sixth lord as 8- the points ) Sun and Moon are not treated > as 6th lord. > Sixth lord in 1st house reduces bodily happiness, more > enemies, unlucky. > In secon house, is bad for Family, family will break, Some > problem with heridatory property. > In 3rd house: No attachment in brothers and Sisters. > In 4th Accidents, much difficulty in acquiring property. > In 5th Enmity with Children, Loss of wisdom, Problem in > authority. > In 6th More bodily trouble, always struggle to face enmity. > 7th house Less marital happiness, Disputes in partenership, > More quarrels. > 8th house: Reduces Life span. Rise in the life will be with > more difficulty, or no rise. Problem regarding Will. > 9th house: Disfame > 10th house : Always differences with supiriors. Less > success in own business. > 11th house: Enmity with friends. No big gain > 12th house: Loss of Money, Imprisonment. > > All above results are experienced when sixth lord is with > more points. With less points it will be reduced. Jupiter as sixth > lord and with more points gives loss of the pleasure due to that > house and also malefic result for the houses it aspects. Mars and > Saturn as sixth lord are better then Jupiter. Sun and Moon no effect. > > Now sixth lord for Lagna becames lord of house E. When we > are finding the result for First house, ( Individuality) Sixth house > becames house E. More powerful sixth lord will give good > individuality. If this lord is getting more points in the worksheet > for first house, It will defeat the compititors and enemies, and will > gain good name. ( Refer the Chart of Prabhu Ram). > For finding the success we refer the points in 3:6th :10th > and 11th house. Here more points in 6th house compared to 3rd gives > good reputation. > The sixth lord also indicates victory over compititors or > enemies. So as lord of E it gives good result for 1st house. The > result is experienced in the sub of sixth lord. > Dear Sanjay, You have done a very nice thing for the group, > by making the worksheet program. You have made a very good program, > It means you have followed the system nicely, so your questions can > not be " ....... " . > For getting more and more in deep, one should have more > questions. Following any thing, or any system, with out any querry, > may not be good. Of cource before asking any question one should > take trouble to read the writeup. > > krushna > > > > , " Sanjay Jaggia " > <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > In a mail to Margarita, you had mentioned that the 6th lord > generally > > creates problems for the chart. I request one or two clarifications > on that. > > > > 1. I suppose the problems are still there when the 6th lord happens > to be > > Sun or Moon but these are less. Please clarify. > > > > 2. In my understanding, the lords of D and E never cause any harm > to the > > native. They are normally supportive of him/her. the 6th lord is > lord of E > > for the 1st house as B. As the first house represents the self, and > the > > overall status of the person, how can the lord of 6th make trouble > for the > > chart? > > > > Is this because the lord of D and E are eager to give results > related to the > > house, whether positive or negative? But then the 6th lord should > also give > > good results. > > > > I am sorry if I sound stupid again but I really want to understand > the > > basics of the system before I try detailed interpretations. > > > > Kind regards > > Sanjay > > > > > > _______ > > > > Get your free @ address at > > > > > _______ > > Get your free @ address at _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2001 Report Share Posted October 2, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, I think you missed this mail. Kind regards Sanjay - " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001 Tuesday, October 02, 2001 11:31 AM Re: Re: 6th lord Respected Krushnaji, Then is it true that Aquarius and Pisces ascendants are somewhat benefited? Also, are the 8th and 12th lords not considered malefic in general? Their malefic nature is to be taken only as per the points that they have? Kind regards Sanjay - <krushanain Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:02 AM Re: 6th lord Dear Sanjay, Sun and Moon do not became malefic as a sixth lord. It means those should be treated as we are treating other planets. The effect of the sight remain as it is. Sun or Moon with more points will have their sight malefic. Other planets when becames sixth lord they creats some problem due their situation, and also due to sight. You can treat sixth lord as malefic planet. Even such planet is with more points, will reduce the happiness for the house it is situated. krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > Thank you for your detailed explanation and encouragement. It is because of > your encouragement that I keep asking more and more questions. > > Of course, I have read all the mails. Sometimes, the mind is forgetful. I > beg your indulgence for the times I might have wasted your time. A wrap on > the knuckles would be welcome for those times. > > Coming back to the issue, we then see that Sun and Moon as 6th lords do not > show so much malefic effect. So it is better if they have more points. Is > that right? > > Also, this also implies that Aquarius and Pisces ascendants have some > inherent advantages, other things being equal, as they have Sun or Moon as > the 6th lords which do not cause problems. Is this correct. I am sure you > will add other qualifications and I would like to see those. > > Kind regards > Sanjay > - > <krushanain> > > Sunday, September 30, 2001 3:28 AM > Re: 6th lord > > > Dear Sanjay, > > Sixth lord in any house reduces the result of that house. > For general planets we treat more points means benefic. For Sixth > lord it is not so. Sixth lord will reduce the results, even if it is > with more points. ( some other time I remember, I told you, ( not > confirmed) that for getting actual reslt of Sixth lord, treat the > points of Sixth lord as 8- the points ) Sun and Moon are not treated > as 6th lord. > Sixth lord in 1st house reduces bodily happiness, more > enemies, unlucky. > In secon house, is bad for Family, family will break, Some > problem with heridatory property. > In 3rd house: No attachment in brothers and Sisters. > In 4th Accidents, much difficulty in acquiring property. > In 5th Enmity with Children, Loss of wisdom, Problem in > authority. > In 6th More bodily trouble, always struggle to face enmity. > 7th house Less marital happiness, Disputes in partenership, > More quarrels. > 8th house: Reduces Life span. Rise in the life will be with > more difficulty, or no rise. Problem regarding Will. > 9th house: Disfame > 10th house : Always differences with supiriors. Less > success in own business. > 11th house: Enmity with friends. No big gain > 12th house: Loss of Money, Imprisonment. > > All above results are experienced when sixth lord is with > more points. With less points it will be reduced. Jupiter as sixth > lord and with more points gives loss of the pleasure due to that > house and also malefic result for the houses it aspects. Mars and > Saturn as sixth lord are better then Jupiter. Sun and Moon no effect. > > Now sixth lord for Lagna becames lord of house E. When we > are finding the result for First house, ( Individuality) Sixth house > becames house E. More powerful sixth lord will give good > individuality. If this lord is getting more points in the worksheet > for first house, It will defeat the compititors and enemies, and will > gain good name. ( Refer the Chart of Prabhu Ram). > For finding the success we refer the points in 3:6th :10th > and 11th house. Here more points in 6th house compared to 3rd gives > good reputation. > The sixth lord also indicates victory over compititors or > enemies. So as lord of E it gives good result for 1st house. The > result is experienced in the sub of sixth lord. > Dear Sanjay, You have done a very nice thing for the group, > by making the worksheet program. You have made a very good program, > It means you have followed the system nicely, so your questions can > not be " ....... " . > For getting more and more in deep, one should have more > questions. Following any thing, or any system, with out any querry, > may not be good. Of cource before asking any question one should > take trouble to read the writeup. > > krushna > > > > , " Sanjay Jaggia " > <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > > Respected Krushnaji, > > > > In a mail to Margarita, you had mentioned that the 6th lord > generally > > creates problems for the chart. I request one or two clarifications > on that. > > > > 1. I suppose the problems are still there when the 6th lord happens > to be > > Sun or Moon but these are less. Please clarify. > > > > 2. In my understanding, the lords of D and E never cause any harm > to the > > native. They are normally supportive of him/her. the 6th lord is > lord of E > > for the 1st house as B. As the first house represents the self, and > the > > overall status of the person, how can the lord of 6th make trouble > for the > > chart? > > > > Is this because the lord of D and E are eager to give results > related to the > > house, whether positive or negative? But then the 6th lord should > also give > > good results. > > > > I am sorry if I sound stupid again but I really want to understand > the > > basics of the system before I try detailed interpretations. > > > > Kind regards > > Sanjay > > > > > > _______ > > > > Get your free @ address at > > > > > _______ > > Get your free @ address at _______ Get your free @ address at _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2001 Report Share Posted October 9, 2001 Dear Sanjay, Both statements are correct. There are two aspect of the event. 1) When the event will happen. Here the lord of house E can give the result. Now if we are considering the quontam of the result, as lord of E is in the constellaton on 6th house ( which is 12th from B) So the happiness from marriage will not be satisfactory. When we have to answer only when the event will happen, For Lords of D or E, we do not consider the sign or constellation. Because they are more eager to give the result. So they can give the result in their sub. When the lords of D or E are in the constellation or Sign of sixth lord, the overall result is reduced. Please differenciate between date of event and quontam of result. krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > I need some clarifications about 6th lord. > > 1. In lesson 19, in the rules for 6th lord, rule 2 states > ...if the lords of D and E are samdharmi to the 6th lord, or if they are > in the navamsha of the 6th lord, then the result of house B is even more > reduced " > > This indicates that D and E lords are also affected by the 6th lord. > > 2. In your email dated 1st September addressed to Margarita, Vikas, and > other list members, there is a portion which reads, > > " Here Mercury is with 17 points (max) and it is lord of E, so it can give > the marriage....(Being lord of E, we do not consider that it is in the > constellation of Jupiter and situated in the same Navamsha with Jupiter.) " > > Jupiter in this case is 6th lord. > > Can you please guide us which rules are applicable in which cases as these > rules seem to indicate different things. > > Kind regards > Sanjay > > > _______ > > Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 16, 2001 Report Share Posted October 16, 2001 Respected Krushnaji, Is this statement valid only for the 6th lord or for every lord of 12th from B. If lord of D or E is in the constellation or sign of the lord of 12th from B, then the result of B reduces. Kind regards Sanjay - <krushanain Tuesday, October 09, 2001 9:00 PM Re: 6th lord Dear Sanjay, Both statements are correct. There are two aspect of the event. 1) When the event will happen. Here the lord of house E can give the result. Now if we are considering the quontam of the result, as lord of E is in the constellaton on 6th house ( which is 12th from B) So the happiness from marriage will not be satisfactory. When we have to answer only when the event will happen, For Lords of D or E, we do not consider the sign or constellation. Because they are more eager to give the result. So they can give the result in their sub. When the lords of D or E are in the constellation or Sign of sixth lord, the overall result is reduced. Please differenciate between date of event and quontam of result. krushna , " Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001> wrote: > Respected Krushnaji, > > I need some clarifications about 6th lord. > > 1. In lesson 19, in the rules for 6th lord, rule 2 states > ...if the lords of D and E are samdharmi to the 6th lord, or if they are > in the navamsha of the 6th lord, then the result of house B is even more > reduced " > > This indicates that D and E lords are also affected by the 6th lord. > > 2. In your email dated 1st September addressed to Margarita, Vikas, and > other list members, there is a portion which reads, > > " Here Mercury is with 17 points (max) and it is lord of E, so it can give > the marriage....(Being lord of E, we do not consider that it is in the > constellation of Jupiter and situated in the same Navamsha with Jupiter.) " > > Jupiter in this case is 6th lord. > > Can you please guide us which rules are applicable in which cases as these > rules seem to indicate different things. > > Kind regards > Sanjay > > > _______ > > Get your free @ address at _______ Get your free @ address at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2002 Report Share Posted April 26, 2002 Dear Margarita, Thanks for your explanation and your taking the time to get out the old mail. I suppose one could define troubles in various ways. There could be trouble with the parents which is a normal part of the growing process and the person is learning to handle conflicts in a relatively safe environment. The next stage could be that the person is having more irreconcilable differences in opinion and the parents are too stifling. So the person leaves home. The most severe case could be that the parents and children are downright hostile to each other. Similarly, we could take the work environment, brushes with law, etc. A brush with law could be that you get a speeding ticket. A serious one could be where you accidentally injure someone and are put in jail until the issue is sorted out. In all these, there are troubles with the authority but the severity is different. I suppose this would be read from the chart by taking into account which planet is the 6th lord, which other house does it own, and whether there are any D or E lordships also for the 6th lord. Sometimes I get hopelessly confused with all these details but at least the broad indications are becoming clearer. Thanks for your help. Best regards Sanjay - " dmlettens " <dmlettens " Astrologyandtimingevents (AT) (DOT) Com " Friday, April 26, 2002 7:57 PM 6th lord Hello Sanjay, This " rule " about the 6th lord in the 10th house has in fact nothing to do with Jupiter himself; I should have pointed this out. It comes out of a mail that Krushna sent to the list in September about the position of the 6th lord. It just meant that in my case, having the 6th in the 10th gives problems with authority figures, meaning being somewhat " allergic " to people having authority (parents, boss, etc)when they impose their will or viewpoints. I myself never had any problems with " having authority " , meaning that I could keep order and discipline when I was teaching. Best regards Margarita ---- Original Message ----- <krushanain Sunday, September 30, 2001 3:28 AM Re: 6th lord Dear Sanjay, Sixth lord in any house reduces the result of that house. For general planets we treat more points means benefic. For Sixth lord it is not so. Sixth lord will reduce the results, even if it is with more points. ( some other time I remember, I told you, ( not confirmed) that for getting actual reslt of Sixth lord, treat the points of Sixth lord as 8- the points ) Sun and Moon are not treated as 6th lord. Sixth lord in 1st house reduces bodily happiness, more enemies, unlucky. In secon house, is bad for Family, family will break, Some problem with heridatory property. In 3rd house: No attachment in brothers and Sisters. In 4th Accidents, much difficulty in acquiring property. In 5th Enmity with Children, Loss of wisdom, Problem in authority. In 6th More bodily trouble, always struggle to face enmity. 7th house Less marital happiness, Disputes in partenership, More quarrels. 8th house: Reduces Life span. Rise in the life will be with more difficulty, or no rise. Problem regarding Will. 9th house: Disfame 10th house : Always differences with supiriors. Less success in own business. 11th house: Enmity with friends. No big gain 12th house: Loss of Money, Imprisonment. All above results are experienced when sixth lord is with more points. With less points it will be reduced. Jupiter as sixth lord and with more points gives loss of the pleasure due to that house and also malefic result for the houses it aspects. Mars and Saturn as sixth lord are better then Jupiter. Sun and Moon no effect. Now sixth lord for Lagna becames lord of house E. When we are finding the result for First house, ( Individuality) Sixth house becames house E. More powerful sixth lord will give good individuality. If this lord is getting more points in the worksheet for first house, It will defeat the compititors and enemies, and will gain good name. ( Refer the Chart of Prabhu Ram). For finding the success we refer the points in 3:6th :10th and 11th house. Here more points in 6th house compared to 3rd gives good reputation. The sixth lord also indicates victory over compititors or enemies. So as lord of E it gives good result for 1st house. The result is experienced in the sub of sixth lord. Dear Sanjay, You have done a very nice thing for the group, by making the worksheet program. You have made a very good program, It means you have followed the system nicely, so your questions can not be " ....... " . For getting more and more in deep, one should have more questions. Following any thing, or any system, with out any querry, may not be good. Of cource before asking any question one should take trouble to read the writeup. krushna --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.351 / Virus Database: 197 - Release Date: 4/19/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 12, 2002 Report Share Posted June 12, 2002 Dear Margarita, Have yourself a great vacation. Bon Voyage. Cheers !!! Ash , " dmlettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Respected Krushna, Ash, listmembers, > Thank you Krushna for this mail which answers Ash's > questions. > I will be off on vacation (again...) tomorrow until the > first week of July. > Best regards > Margarita > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.365 / Virus Database: 202 - Release Date: > 5/24/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 13, 2002 Report Share Posted June 13, 2002 Dear Denis, Black hole means place where the original property of any thing lost. There are some black hole in universe, if any thing come near it is lost, The volume of that thing is zero, weight remains same. So I compared 6th house as black hole. Generally any planet, in 6th house looses it's property. More benefic planet, will give more malefic result. krushna , " DENIS LABOURE " <Laboure@W...> wrote: > Dear Krushna and Margarita, > > I have noticed this phrase in a message: > " You can treat > sixth house as a black hole, where every planet plays in reverse way. " > > I am not sure I have understood it. Could you tell me more? > > * Does a benefic planet in the 6th house become a malefic in its subperiod? > And vice versa? > * Does this reversal affect the aspects of this planet? > > Thanks a lot > Denis > > > -- > Pour des renseignements sur les séminaires, les consultations et les > cours par correspondance, ainsi que pour des logiciels et des leçons > d'astrologie gratuits, visitez mon site : > www.astrocours.fr.st > - > " ashsam73 " <ashsam73@h...> > > Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:37 PM > SAV v/s Significators > > > > Dear Krushnaji, Margarita, Sanjay and list members, > > > > My next set of doubts were regarding SAV. I had again scanned the > > archives, and I believe in the past you all had a good discussion > > regarding SAV, Significator points. > > > > However I joined the list a little later on and missed those. I went > > through those exchanges but I could not understand some of the > > concepts behind those reasonings. > > > > I wanted to understand what those points meant as compared to > > Significator. > > > > Sanjay, had asked the similar question in the past and Krushnaji had > > explained, however it was not very clear to me. > > > > > > case 1 : > > -------- > > If a house gets say 19 points in SAV for the 7th house. If for the > > 7th house say planets get 20,18,15,6,16,18,15 points (sun thru shani). > > > > What would that mean. What is SAV of 19 points showing here. If in > > our example during Sun antra, sun is getting 20 points, so it is > > powerful, so what is 19 points in SAV showing ? > > > > > > case 2: > > ------- > > If a house gets say 35 points in SAV for the 7th house. If for the > > 7th house say planets get 10,5,-6,9,12,11,4 points (sun thru shani). > > > > What would that mean. In this case with an SAV being 35 shows a > > powerful house, but what is the weak significators showing ? > > > > Could you please help me understand this concept please as its very > > basic but very important. > > > > Thanking you, > > Cheers !!! > > Ash > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Dear Margarita, Lets see for all planets. 1) Mars if in own house in 6th house with 2 bindus. Such a Mars will give aspect to 1st, 9th and 12th. Mars is LOE for 1st house and LOD for 9th house. Since its aspecting both IT SHOULD GIVE BENEFIC DRISTI. case II Mars if in 6th house in own house with 6 bindus. Such a Mars will aspect 9th, 1st and 12th house. As per basic rule of the system LOD and LOE will not give malefic dristi. So again 9th and 1st will not get -6 bindus dristi infact for 1st house being LOE it will get +5 added and for 9th also +5 points will be added due to fact it being LOD or LOE. 2) LOE or LOD situated in Karak sthan is good. For 6th as B, 1st house becomes A. Now LOE situated in House A. 3) For 9th house as B, LOA is 4th lord and LOD and LOE are 2nd and 6th. If 9th lord is situated in 6th house so here LOB will be situated in House D. These are some things I could think of w.r.t 1st and 9th house w.r.t. 6th house and 6th lord. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , " dirk & margarita lettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, listmembers, > So Krushna corrected his mail saying that THE 6TH LORD WITH MORE POINTS IN > THE 1ST INCREASES THE RESULTS OF THAT HOUSE AS B. This planet will > negatively affect the houses it aspects and this according to the points. OK > everybody got that I think > > I remember reading somewhere but couldn't find it back that the 6th and the > 10th lord don't harm the 1st. This is because they are lords of D and E. But > I was just wondering if this law only apply to the 1st house. I think so > otherwise Krushna would have said any house and he corrected " any house " by > " first house " for this rule. > KRHUSNA PLEASE CAN YOU COMMENT ON THIS. > Best regards > Margarita > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.497 / Virus Database: 296 - Release 7/4/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 9, 2003 Report Share Posted July 9, 2003 Dear Margarita, I am just writing my question in CAPS You wrote " I remember reading somewhere but couldn't find it back that the 6th and the > 10th lord don't harm the 1st. This is because they are lords of D and E. But > I was just wondering if this law only apply to the 1st house. I think so > otherwise Krushna would have said any house and he corrected " any house " by > " first house " for this rule. " ASH : YES THIS MAKES COMPLETE SENSE AS THEY ARE LORDS OF D AND E AND LORDS OF D AND E NEVER OBSTRUCT HOUSE B. IN THIS CASE HOUSE B = 1. YES LETS WAIT FOR KRUSHNAJI TO CONFIRM THIS. Thanks, Cheers !!! Ash , " dirk & margarita lettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote: > Hello Ash, listmembers, > So Krushna corrected his mail saying that THE 6TH LORD WITH MORE POINTS IN > THE 1ST INCREASES THE RESULTS OF THAT HOUSE AS B. This planet will > negatively affect the houses it aspects and this according to the points. OK > everybody got that I think > > I remember reading somewhere but couldn't find it back that the 6th and the > 10th lord don't harm the 1st. This is because they are lords of D and E. But > I was just wondering if this law only apply to the 1st house. I think so > otherwise Krushna would have said any house and he corrected " any house " by > " first house " for this rule. > KRHUSNA PLEASE CAN YOU COMMENT ON THIS. > Best regards > Margarita > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.497 / Virus Database: 296 - Release 7/4/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Dear Satish, much is said in lesson and archive about 6th lord. about 9th house Krushnaji has elobrated in one mail in archive.. talking about dharmakarmadhipatiya yoga and if 9th lord situated in 10th house spoils the 10th house. unfortunately i dont have the messag number but you should be able to find that in archive. thanks/regards harjeet , SPK <aquaris_rising wrote: > > Dear Ramesh, Ash, and all > > When we talk about 7th house as B , the 6th lord > becomes not only 6th lord but also the lord of 12th > from house B. > > When we talk of 10 th house, 9th house becomes 12th > from house B. In this case how would you in KAS > ascertain the properties of the 9th lord? Will the 6th > lord behave malefically for most houses if it gets in > relationship with them, with the exception of when 6th > lord becomes loD or LoE. > > Is there something in archives that can elaborate this > point ? > > Thanks > > Satish > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 > wrote: > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Satish, Harjeet and all, > > Here is my attempt goes. > > I got asc. as 15 Cp 7. > > Significators for 7th are Sa, Mo and Ma. All these > > three planets are aspected by 6th lord Me from D > > house. LoD is also Ma and LoE is Ju who is in the > > navamsa of 6th lord. Ma is also in the navamsa of > > 6th lord. > > It means 6th influence is over all the planets > > meant for 7th house. > > There seems to be one plus point that Ju a benefic > > and LoE aspects Me (6th lord) but this hope is > > diminished being Ju in Me navamsa. > > Ve is influenced by Sa , Ma and Ra. > > There is full delay caused by Sa and Ju both. > > Though delay is moderated by Ju but being in Me > > navamsa it will not moderate the delay. > > One zero in 5th house by Mo. > > Delay will be over on 3 Sep 09 when Ra antara in > > Ju main will be in force. > > The native has long way to go for marriage. > > I have come across many charts where 6th lord > > influenced all significators and native remained > > unmarried. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > Here is a chart of a female > > who was engaged on 20th july2007 > > and her engagement was broken after two weaks. > > She didnt submit any deatil except this. > > While applying KAS,can we find the reason for such > > time? > > The answer lies perhapes while applying KAS. > > > > TOB 13th May1984 > > DOB 23.41PM > > Lat 13N05 Longi 80E18 IST > > > > One zero in 5th house by Moon. > > Delay by Saturn. > > When she can marry? > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > > > > ______________________________\ ____ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. > http://sims./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2007 Report Share Posted September 21, 2007 Dear Satish, 10th house is most powerful quadrant and 9th house is most powerful trine. 10th house is that of Karma and its Karak for 3rd house and parakram. That is why we are taking 10th lords from lagna, Sun and Moon. 10th house is A and KArak for parakram. So it controls the status of your actions and efforts and hence it denotes the occupation. If Brihat Jataka and other texts only 10th lords from lagna sun and mo and its navamsa deposter portion is given and explanation for why that is the case is not given. As per KAS also we follow the similar thing and here, we are denoting the reason on why 10th lord is taken from lagna sun and moon. Now 9th house is that of fortunes, its OPPOSITE of 3rd house i.e. parakram. 9th house denotes what we call luck and a fortunate person as they tend to get things more easily and with less effort. Now 10th lord in 9th house is Dharma Karama adhipati as per VA and we say that 10th lord in 9th means such a person might rely more on luck rather than putting in more effort. Again Kendra lord in Trine is good. Now 10th lord in 9th house means its in House D for 12th as B. So again it, can trigger 12th house and that is of moksh / enjoyment / pleasures. Another way to look at this is going by the basic principle of KAS and that is that planets that aspect House A, B and C do not give results their SD’s might give. Here 10th lord who is Karak for 3rd goes in 9th house, so from 9th house it aspects 3rd house so itself can’t give result. 9th house is the house opposite of 3rd so such person might tend to rely more on 9th house matters or luck or dharm etc, rather than believe in putting in more struggle and effort. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Friday September 21, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: 6th lord Dear Ramesh, Ash, and all When we talk about 7th house as B , the 6th lord becomes not only 6th lord but also the lord of 12th from house B. When we talk of 10 th house, 9th house becomes 12th from house B. In this case how would you in KAS ascertain the properties of the 9th lord? Will the 6th lord behave malefically for most houses if it gets in relationship with them, with the exception of when 6th lord becomes loD or LoE. Is there something in archives that can elaborate this point ? Thanks Satish --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Dear Ash, Anup, Satish, Harjeet and all, > Here is my attempt goes. > I got asc. as 15 Cp 7. > Significators for 7th are Sa, Mo and Ma. All these > three planets are aspected by 6th lord Me from D > house. LoD is also Ma and LoE is Ju who is in the > navamsa of 6th lord. Ma is also in the navamsa of > 6th lord. > It means 6th influence is over all the planets > meant for 7th house. > There seems to be one plus point that Ju a benefic > and LoE aspects Me (6th lord) but this hope is > diminished being Ju in Me navamsa. > Ve is influenced by Sa , Ma and Ra. > There is full delay caused by Sa and Ju both. > Though delay is moderated by Ju but being in Me > navamsa it will not moderate the delay. > One zero in 5th house by Mo. > Delay will be over on 3 Sep 09 when Ra antara in > Ju main will be in force. > The native has long way to go for marriage. > I have come across many charts where 6th lord > influenced all significators and native remained > unmarried. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 > wrote: > Dear All, > > Here is a chart of a female > who was engaged on 20th july2007 > and her engagement was broken after two weaks. > She didnt submit any deatil except this. > While applying KAS,can we find the reason for such > time? > The answer lies perhapes while applying KAS. > > TOB 13th May1984 > DOB 23.41PM > Lat 13N05 Longi 80E18 IST > > One zero in 5th house by Moon. > Delay by Saturn. > When she can marry? > > Regards > Anup > ________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. http://sims./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Harjeet and Satish, Here is my mail. It is better not to have 12th from B powerful for House B. I think Krushnaji has also written that in some old mail that I remember very well. As far as timing is concerned, high power planet can give result so if 12th from B is giving high power to House B and its antra comes then it may give the result but such a result will have lots of problems. Again, be careful, for dual lordship. Say Gemini is lagna and Mars is 6th and 11th lord so here its LoC for 7th house and its also 12th from B. So here u have to study it more keenly. Say u are buying a house and say Aries is lagna then 3rd and 6th lord both are Mercury. So Me is 12th from 4th but its also 3rd upachaya from 4th as well. So here u have to study it keenly. Kendra lord and Kona lord when they conjoin it’s a Raj Yog. Krushanji has also written about that in the archives if someone can find his mail, it was a conversation between Sanjay Jaggia and Krushnaji. That should help in searching the archives. Rest in the attached mail. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Ash Friday September 21, 2007 6:28 PM RE: 6th lord Dear Satish, 10th house is most powerful quadrant and 9th house is most powerful trine. 10th house is that of Karma and its Karak for 3rd house and parakram. That is why we are taking 10th lords from lagna, Sun and Moon. 10th house is A and KArak for parakram. So it controls the status of your actions and efforts and hence it denotes the occupation. If Brihat Jataka and other texts only 10th lords from lagna sun and mo and its navamsa deposter portion is given and explanation for why that is the case is not given. As per KAS also we follow the similar thing and here, we are denoting the reason on why 10th lord is taken from lagna sun and moon. Now 9th house is that of fortunes, its OPPOSITE of 3rd house i.e. parakram. 9th house denotes what we call luck and a fortunate person as they tend to get things more easily and with less effort. Now 10th lord in 9th house is Dharma Karama adhipati as per VA and we say that 10th lord in 9th means such a person might rely more on luck rather than putting in more effort. Again Kendra lord in Trine is good. Now 10th lord in 9th house means its in House D for 12th as B. So again it, can trigger 12th house and that is of moksh / enjoyment / pleasures. Another way to look at this is going by the basic principle of KAS and that is that planets that aspect House A, B and C do not give results their SD’s might give. Here 10th lord who is Karak for 3rd goes in 9th house, so from 9th house it aspects 3rd house so itself can’t give result. 9th house is the house opposite of 3rd so such person might tend to rely more on 9th house matters or luck or dharm etc, rather than believe in putting in more struggle and effort. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Friday September 21, 2007 2:39 PM 6th lord Dear Ramesh, Ash, and all When we talk about 7th house as B , the 6th lord becomes not only 6th lord but also the lord of 12th from house B. When we talk of 10 th house, 9th house becomes 12th from house B. In this case how would you in KAS ascertain the properties of the 9th lord? Will the 6th lord behave malefically for most houses if it gets in relationship with them, with the exception of when 6th lord becomes loD or LoE. Is there something in archives that can elaborate this point ? Thanks Satish --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Dear Ash, Anup, Satish, Harjeet and all, > Here is my attempt goes. > I got asc. as 15 Cp 7. > Significators for 7th are Sa, Mo and Ma. All these > three planets are aspected by 6th lord Me from D > house. LoD is also Ma and LoE is Ju who is in the > navamsa of 6th lord. Ma is also in the navamsa of > 6th lord. > It means 6th influence is over all the planets > meant for 7th house. > There seems to be one plus point that Ju a benefic > and LoE aspects Me (6th lord) but this hope is > diminished being Ju in Me navamsa. > Ve is influenced by Sa , Ma and Ra. > There is full delay caused by Sa and Ju both. > Though delay is moderated by Ju but being in Me > navamsa it will not moderate the delay. > One zero in 5th house by Mo. > Delay will be over on 3 Sep 09 when Ra antara in > Ju main will be in force. > The native has long way to go for marriage. > I have come across many charts where 6th lord > influenced all significators and native remained > unmarried. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 > wrote: > Dear All, > > Here is a chart of a female > who was engaged on 20th july2007 > and her engagement was broken after two weaks. > She didnt submit any deatil except this. > While applying KAS,can we find the reason for such > time? > The answer lies perhapes while applying KAS. > > TOB 13th May1984 > DOB 23.41PM > Lat 13N05 Longi 80E18 IST > > One zero in 5th house by Moon. > Delay by Saturn. > When she can marry? > > Regards > Anup > ________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. http://sims./ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 , " Ash " <kas wrote: > Thanks very much Ashji for your reply. yes dual lordship creates much confusion. so what approach to follow in such cases... is there any method or steps to follow when 6th lord also becomes lord of B or C etc.. mars for gemini asc. now can we say that the 6th lord and C lord are same.. so 6th lord automatically degrades the quality of house C ? another example for leo. asc. here saturn is 6th and 7th lord. i.e. 12th from (B=7). if such saturn is in house A. in such case what do we approach ? marriage is bad because 6th lord in A or marriage is good because 7th lord in A(karak sthan).? Krushnaji in one mail said to study sight of Saturn in such case.. but again the sight is from lord of B and 12th lord from B ? in short can we say that such positioning the planet would be neutral towards house B ? thanks/regards harjeet > Dear Harjeet and Satish, > > Here is my mail. > > > > It is better not to have 12th from B powerful for House B. I think > Krushnaji has also written that in some old mail that I remember very well. > > As far as timing is concerned, high power planet can give result so if 12th > from B is giving high power to House B and its antra comes then it may give > the result but such a result will have lots of problems. > > Again, be careful, for dual lordship. Say Gemini is lagna and Mars is 6th > and 11th lord so here its LoC for 7th house and its also 12th from B. So > here u have to study it more keenly. > > > > Say u are buying a house and say Aries is lagna then 3rd and 6th lord both > are Mercury. So Me is 12th from 4th but its also 3rd upachaya from 4th as > well. So here u have to study it keenly. > > > > Kendra lord and Kona lord when they conjoin it's a Raj Yog. Krushanji has > also written about that in the archives if someone can find his mail, it was > a conversation between Sanjay Jaggia and Krushnaji. That should help in > searching the archives. > > > > Rest in the attached mail. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Ash > Friday September 21, 2007 6:28 PM > > RE: 6th lord > > > > Dear Satish, > > 10th house is most powerful quadrant and 9th house is most powerful trine. > 10th house is that of Karma and its Karak for 3rd house and parakram. That > is why we are taking 10th lords from lagna, Sun and Moon. > > 10th house is A and KArak for parakram. So it controls the status of your > actions and efforts and hence it denotes the occupation. If Brihat Jataka > and other texts only 10th lords from lagna sun and mo and its navamsa > deposter portion is given and explanation for why that is the case is not > given. As per KAS also we follow the similar thing and here, we are > denoting the reason on why 10th lord is taken from lagna sun and moon. > > Now 9th house is that of fortunes, its OPPOSITE of 3rd house i.e. parakram. > 9th house denotes what we call luck and a fortunate person as they tend to > get things more easily and with less effort. > > Now 10th lord in 9th house is Dharma Karama adhipati as per VA and we say > that 10th lord in 9th means such a person might rely more on luck rather > than putting in more effort. Again Kendra lord in Trine is good. > > Now 10th lord in 9th house means its in House D for 12th as B. So again it, > can trigger 12th house and that is of moksh / enjoyment / pleasures. > > > > Another way to look at this is going by the basic principle of KAS and that > is that planets that aspect House A, B and C do not give results their SD's > might give. Here 10th lord who is Karak for 3rd goes in 9th house, so from > 9th house it aspects 3rd house so itself can't give result. 9th house is > the house opposite of 3rd so such person might tend to rely more on 9th > house matters or luck or dharm etc, rather than believe in putting in more > struggle and effort. > > > > Cheers !!! > > Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of SPK > Friday September 21, 2007 2:39 PM > > 6th lord > > > > Dear Ramesh, Ash, and all > > When we talk about 7th house as B , the 6th lord > becomes not only 6th lord but also the lord of 12th > from house B. > > When we talk of 10 th house, 9th house becomes 12th > from house B. In this case how would you in KAS > ascertain the properties of the 9th lord? Will the 6th > lord behave malefically for most houses if it gets in > relationship with them, with the exception of when 6th > lord becomes loD or LoE. > > Is there something in archives that can elaborate this > point ? > > Thanks > > Satish > --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@ <aarceemastro2002%40.co.in> > .co.in> > wrote: > > > Dear Ash, Anup, Satish, Harjeet and all, > > Here is my attempt goes. > > I got asc. as 15 Cp 7. > > Significators for 7th are Sa, Mo and Ma. All these > > three planets are aspected by 6th lord Me from D > > house. LoD is also Ma and LoE is Ju who is in the > > navamsa of 6th lord. Ma is also in the navamsa of > > 6th lord. > > It means 6th influence is over all the planets > > meant for 7th house. > > There seems to be one plus point that Ju a benefic > > and LoE aspects Me (6th lord) but this hope is > > diminished being Ju in Me navamsa. > > Ve is influenced by Sa , Ma and Ra. > > There is full delay caused by Sa and Ju both. > > Though delay is moderated by Ju but being in Me > > navamsa it will not moderate the delay. > > One zero in 5th house by Mo. > > Delay will be over on 3 Sep 09 when Ra antara in > > Ju main will be in force. > > The native has long way to go for marriage. > > I have come across many charts where 6th lord > > influenced all significators and native remained > > unmarried. > > Thanks and regards. > > Ramesh Mishra > > > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 (AT) (DOT) <dalh_1%40> com> wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > Here is a chart of a female > > who was engaged on 20th july2007 > > and her engagement was broken after two weaks. > > She didnt submit any deatil except this. > > While applying KAS,can we find the reason for such > > time? > > The answer lies perhapes while applying KAS. > > > > TOB 13th May1984 > > DOB 23.41PM > > Lat 13N05 Longi 80E18 IST > > > > One zero in 5th house by Moon. > > Delay by Saturn. > > When she can marry? > > > > Regards > > Anup > > > > ________ > Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play > Sims Stories at Games. > http://sims. <http://sims./> / > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear Ash ,Harjeet, and all This might be the mail Krushnaji wrote about rajyayoga But i have no mail number. "Raj yog meansexchange of lords of Physical plane and Dharma triplicity 1,5,9houses. for cancer or Leo ascendent Mars is lord of kendra andtrikona, if it is powerful, situated in the 10th house from any otherplanet with less points, becames power ful. Similarly for Libra andTaurus lagna Saturn is lord of kendra and trikona houses, if suchSaturn is powerful it will give some assistance emplyed" Dear Sanjay,All your reasonings are correct, When a person have any turningpoint in his life, then he must have some Raj Yog. Second house orthe lord of 2nd house should not have any effect of Saturn. If sucheffect is there then the person rises to a certain level, and thendue to his mental satisfaction, he do not go ahead, or do not try togo ahead. He may have less affinity for Money.krushna Regards Anup Ash <kas wrote: Dear Harjeet and Satish, Here is my mail. It is better not to have 12th from B powerful for House B. I think Krushnaji has also written that in some old mail that I remember very well. As far as timing is concerned, high power planet can give result so if 12th from B is giving high power to House B and its antra comes then it may give the result but such a result will have lots of problems. Again, be careful, for dual lordship. Say Gemini is lagna and Mars is 6th and 11th lord so here its LoC for 7th house and its also 12th from B. So here u have to study it more keenly. Say u are buying a house and say Aries is lagna then 3rd and 6th lord both are Mercury. So Me is 12th from 4th but its also 3rd upachaya from 4th as well. So here u have to study it keenly. Kendra lord and Kona lord when they conjoin it’s a Raj Yog. Krushanji has also written about that in the archives if someone can find his mail, it was a conversation between Sanjay Jaggia and Krushnaji. That should help in searching the archives. Rest in the attached mail. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of AshFriday September 21, 2007 6:28 PM Subject: RE: 6th lord Dear Satish, 10th house is most powerful quadrant and 9th house is most powerful trine. 10th house is that of Karma and its Karak for 3rd house and parakram. That is why we are taking 10th lords from lagna, Sun and Moon. 10th house is A and KArak for parakram. So it controls the status of your actions and efforts and hence it denotes the occupation. If Brihat Jataka and other texts only 10th lords from lagna sun and mo and its navamsa deposter portion is given and explanation for why that is the case is not given. As per KAS also we follow the similar thing and here, we are denoting the reason on why 10th lord is taken from lagna sun and moon. Now 9th house is that of fortunes, its OPPOSITE of 3rd house i.e. parakram. 9th house denotes what we call luck and a fortunate person as they tend to get things more easily and with less effort. Now 10th lord in 9th house is Dharma Karama adhipati as per VA and we say that 10th lord in 9th means such a person might rely more on luck rather than putting in more effort. Again Kendra lord in Trine is good. Now 10th lord in 9th house means its in House D for 12th as B. So again it, can trigger 12th house and that is of moksh / enjoyment / pleasures. Another way to look at this is going by the basic principle of KAS and that is that planets that aspect House A, B and C do not give results their SD’s might give. Here 10th lord who is Karak for 3rd goes in 9th house, so from 9th house it aspects 3rd house so itself can’t give result. 9th house is the house opposite of 3rd so such person might tend to rely more on 9th house matters or luck or dharm etc, rather than believe in putting in more struggle and effort. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPKFriday September 21, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: 6th lord Dear Ramesh, Ash, and allWhen we talk about 7th house as B , the 6th lordbecomes not only 6th lord but also the lord of 12thfrom house B.When we talk of 10 th house, 9th house becomes 12thfrom house B. In this case how would you in KASascertain the properties of the 9th lord? Will the 6thlord behave malefically for most houses if it gets inrelationship with them, with the exception of when 6thlord becomes loD or LoE.Is there something in archives that can elaborate thispoint ?ThanksSatish--- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:> Dear Ash, Anup, Satish, Harjeet and all,> Here is my attempt goes.> I got asc. as 15 Cp 7.> Significators for 7th are Sa, Mo and Ma. All these> three planets are aspected by 6th lord Me from D> house. LoD is also Ma and LoE is Ju who is in the> navamsa of 6th lord. Ma is also in the navamsa of> 6th lord.> It means 6th influence is over all the planets> meant for 7th house.> There seems to be one plus point that Ju a benefic> and LoE aspects Me (6th lord) but this hope is> diminished being Ju in Me navamsa.> Ve is influenced by Sa , Ma and Ra.> There is full delay caused by Sa and Ju both.> Though delay is moderated by Ju but being in Me> navamsa it will not moderate the delay.> One zero in 5th house by Mo.> Delay will be over on 3 Sep 09 when Ra antara in> Ju main will be in force.> The native has long way to go for marriage.> I have come across many charts where 6th lord> influenced all significators and native remained> unmarried.> Thanks and regards.> Ramesh Mishra> > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote:> Dear All,> > Here is a chart of a female> who was engaged on 20th july2007> and her engagement was broken after two weaks.> She didnt submit any deatil except this.> While applying KAS,can we find the reason for such> time?> The answer lies perhapes while applying KAS.> > TOB 13th May1984> DOB 23.41PM> Lat 13N05 Longi 80E18 IST> > One zero in 5th house by Moon.> Delay by Saturn.> When she can marry?> > Regards> Anup> ________Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games.http://sims./ Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 25, 2007 Report Share Posted September 25, 2007 Dear all, Here is Krushnaji’s mail on Raj Yog. /message/3535 Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Anup. M Tuesday September 25, 2007 1:37 PM Re: FW: 6th lord Dear Ash ,Harjeet, and all This might be the mail Krushnaji wrote about rajyayoga But i have no mail number. " Raj yog means exchange of lords of Physical plane and Dharma triplicity 1,5,9 houses. for cancer or Leo ascendent Mars is lord of kendra and trikona, if it is powerful, situated in the 10th house from any other planet with less points, becames power ful. Similarly for Libra and Taurus lagna Saturn is lord of kendra and trikona houses, if such Saturn is powerful it will give some assistance emplyed " Dear Sanjay, All your reasonings are correct, When a person have any turning point in his life, then he must have some Raj Yog. Second house or the lord of 2nd house should not have any effect of Saturn. If such effect is there then the person rises to a certain level, and then due to his mental satisfaction, he do not go ahead, or do not try to go ahead. He may have less affinity for Money. krushna Regards Anup Ash <kas wrote: Dear Harjeet and Satish, Here is my mail. It is better not to have 12th from B powerful for House B. I think Krushnaji has also written that in some old mail that I remember very well. As far as timing is concerned, high power planet can give result so if 12th from B is giving high power to House B and its antra comes then it may give the result but such a result will have lots of problems. Again, be careful, for dual lordship. Say Gemini is lagna and Mars is 6th and 11th lord so here its LoC for 7th house and its also 12th from B. So here u have to study it more keenly. Say u are buying a house and say Aries is lagna then 3rd and 6th lord both are Mercury. So Me is 12th from 4th but its also 3rd upachaya from 4th as well. So here u have to study it keenly. Kendra lord and Kona lord when they conjoin it’s a Raj Yog. Krushanji has also written about that in the archives if someone can find his mail, it was a conversation between Sanjay Jaggia and Krushnaji. That should help in searching the archives. Rest in the attached mail. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of Ash Friday September 21, 2007 6:28 PM RE: 6th lord Dear Satish, 10th house is most powerful quadrant and 9th house is most powerful trine. 10th house is that of Karma and its Karak for 3rd house and parakram. That is why we are taking 10th lords from lagna, Sun and Moon. 10th house is A and KArak for parakram. So it controls the status of your actions and efforts and hence it denotes the occupation. If Brihat Jataka and other texts only 10th lords from lagna sun and mo and its navamsa deposter portion is given and explanation for why that is the case is not given. As per KAS also we follow the similar thing and here, we are denoting the reason on why 10th lord is taken from lagna sun and moon. Now 9th house is that of fortunes, its OPPOSITE of 3rd house i.e. parakram. 9th house denotes what we call luck and a fortunate person as they tend to get things more easily and with less effort. Now 10th lord in 9th house is Dharma Karama adhipati as per VA and we say that 10th lord in 9th means such a person might rely more on luck rather than putting in more effort. Again Kendra lord in Trine is good. Now 10th lord in 9th house means its in House D for 12th as B. So again it, can trigger 12th house and that is of moksh / enjoyment / pleasures. Another way to look at this is going by the basic principle of KAS and that is that planets that aspect House A, B and C do not give results their SD’s might give. Here 10th lord who is Karak for 3rd goes in 9th house, so from 9th house it aspects 3rd house so itself can’t give result. 9th house is the house opposite of 3rd so such person might tend to rely more on 9th house matters or luck or dharm etc, rather than believe in putting in more struggle and effort. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPK Friday September 21, 2007 2:39 PM 6th lord Dear Ramesh, Ash, and all When we talk about 7th house as B , the 6th lord becomes not only 6th lord but also the lord of 12th from house B. When we talk of 10 th house, 9th house becomes 12th from house B. In this case how would you in KAS ascertain the properties of the 9th lord? Will the 6th lord behave malefically for most houses if it gets in relationship with them, with the exception of when 6th lord becomes loD or LoE. Is there something in archives that can elaborate this point ? Thanks Satish --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > Dear Ash, Anup, Satish, Harjeet and all, > Here is my attempt goes. > I got asc. as 15 Cp 7. > Significators for 7th are Sa, Mo and Ma. All these > three planets are aspected by 6th lord Me from D > house. LoD is also Ma and LoE is Ju who is in the > navamsa of 6th lord. Ma is also in the navamsa of > 6th lord. > It means 6th influence is over all the planets > meant for 7th house. > There seems to be one plus point that Ju a benefic > and LoE aspects Me (6th lord) but this hope is > diminished being Ju in Me navamsa. > Ve is influenced by Sa , Ma and Ra. > There is full delay caused by Sa and Ju both. > Though delay is moderated by Ju but being in Me > navamsa it will not moderate the delay. > One zero in 5th house by Mo. > Delay will be over on 3 Sep 09 when Ra antara in > Ju main will be in force. > The native has long way to go for marriage. > I have come across many charts where 6th lord > influenced all significators and native remained > unmarried. > Thanks and regards. > Ramesh Mishra > > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 > wrote: > Dear All, > > Here is a chart of a female > who was engaged on 20th july2007 > and her engagement was broken after two weaks. > She didnt submit any deatil except this. > While applying KAS,can we find the reason for such > time? > The answer lies perhapes while applying KAS. > > TOB 13th May1984 > DOB 23.41PM > Lat 13N05 Longi 80E18 IST > > One zero in 5th house by Moon. > Delay by Saturn. > When she can marry? > > Regards > Anup > ________ Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games. http://sims./ Take the Internet to Go: Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Respected Professor, What is the impact of close aspect of 6th lord on 9th lord. Is it Religious discords/intolerance? Also what results do we expect of a strong planet which is closely aspected by Ra or Ke but not more than 60%. Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Hello rainysky, I add my replies to your Qs in your appended msg. - rainysky_33 SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology Monday, December 07, 2009 11:13 AM [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] 6th lord Respected Professor, What is the impact of close aspect of 6th lord on 9th lord. Is it Religious discords/intolerance? YES, BESIDES CAUSING CONFLICTS WITH PARENTS AND DAMAGE TO THE GENERAL SIGNIFICATIONS OF THE NINTH LORD. Also what results do we expect of a strong planet which is closely aspected by Ra or Ke but not more than 60%. PROBLEMS TO BOTH GENERAL SIGNIFICATIONS AND THE SIGNIFICATIONS OF THE MOOLTRIKONA SIGN HOUSE OF THE AFFECTED PLANET. Thank You Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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