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Dear Sanjay,

 

Sixth lord in any house reduces the result of that house.

For general planets we treat more points means benefic. For Sixth

lord it is not so. Sixth lord will reduce the results, even if it is

with more points. ( some other time I remember, I told you, ( not

confirmed) that for getting actual reslt of Sixth lord, treat the

points of Sixth lord as 8- the points ) Sun and Moon are not treated

as 6th lord.

Sixth lord in 1st house reduces bodily happiness, more

enemies, unlucky.

In secon house, is bad for Family, family will break, Some

problem with heridatory property.

In 3rd house: No attachment in brothers and Sisters.

In 4th Accidents, much difficulty in acquiring property.

In 5th Enmity with Children, Loss of wisdom, Problem in

authority.

In 6th More bodily trouble, always struggle to face enmity.

7th house Less marital happiness, Disputes in partenership,

More quarrels.

8th house: Reduces Life span. Rise in the life will be with

more difficulty, or no rise. Problem regarding Will.

9th house: Disfame

10th house : Always differences with supiriors. Less

success in own business.

11th house: Enmity with friends. No big gain

12th house: Loss of Money, Imprisonment.

 

All above results are experienced when sixth lord is with

more points. With less points it will be reduced. Jupiter as sixth

lord and with more points gives loss of the pleasure due to that

house and also malefic result for the houses it aspects. Mars and

Saturn as sixth lord are better then Jupiter. Sun and Moon no effect.

 

Now sixth lord for Lagna becames lord of house E. When we

are finding the result for First house, ( Individuality) Sixth house

becames house E. More powerful sixth lord will give good

individuality. If this lord is getting more points in the worksheet

for first house, It will defeat the compititors and enemies, and will

gain good name. ( Refer the Chart of Prabhu Ram).

For finding the success we refer the points in 3:6th :10th

and 11th house. Here more points in 6th house compared to 3rd gives

good reputation.

The sixth lord also indicates victory over compititors or

enemies. So as lord of E it gives good result for 1st house. The

result is experienced in the sub of sixth lord.

Dear Sanjay, You have done a very nice thing for the group,

by making the worksheet program. You have made a very good program,

It means you have followed the system nicely, so your questions can

not be " ....... " .

For getting more and more in deep, one should have more

questions. Following any thing, or any system, with out any querry,

may not be good. Of cource before asking any question one should

take trouble to read the writeup.

 

krushna

 

 

 

, " Sanjay Jaggia "

<sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> In a mail to Margarita, you had mentioned that the 6th lord

generally

> creates problems for the chart. I request one or two clarifications

on that.

>

> 1. I suppose the problems are still there when the 6th lord happens

to be

> Sun or Moon but these are less. Please clarify.

>

> 2. In my understanding, the lords of D and E never cause any harm

to the

> native. They are normally supportive of him/her. the 6th lord is

lord of E

> for the 1st house as B. As the first house represents the self, and

the

> overall status of the person, how can the lord of 6th make trouble

for the

> chart?

>

> Is this because the lord of D and E are eager to give results

related to the

> house, whether positive or negative? But then the 6th lord should

also give

> good results.

>

> I am sorry if I sound stupid again but I really want to understand

the

> basics of the system before I try detailed interpretations.

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

>

>

> _______

>

> Get your free @ address at

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Respected Krushnaji,

 

Thank you for your detailed explanation and encouragement. It is because of

your encouragement that I keep asking more and more questions.

 

Of course, I have read all the mails. Sometimes, the mind is forgetful. I

beg your indulgence for the times I might have wasted your time. A wrap on

the knuckles would be welcome for those times.

 

Coming back to the issue, we then see that Sun and Moon as 6th lords do not

show so much malefic effect. So it is better if they have more points. Is

that right?

 

Also, this also implies that Aquarius and Pisces ascendants have some

inherent advantages, other things being equal, as they have Sun or Moon as

the 6th lords which do not cause problems. Is this correct. I am sure you

will add other qualifications and I would like to see those.

 

Kind regards

Sanjay

-

<krushanain

 

Sunday, September 30, 2001 3:28 AM

Re: 6th lord

 

 

Dear Sanjay,

 

Sixth lord in any house reduces the result of that house.

For general planets we treat more points means benefic. For Sixth

lord it is not so. Sixth lord will reduce the results, even if it is

with more points. ( some other time I remember, I told you, ( not

confirmed) that for getting actual reslt of Sixth lord, treat the

points of Sixth lord as 8- the points ) Sun and Moon are not treated

as 6th lord.

Sixth lord in 1st house reduces bodily happiness, more

enemies, unlucky.

In secon house, is bad for Family, family will break, Some

problem with heridatory property.

In 3rd house: No attachment in brothers and Sisters.

In 4th Accidents, much difficulty in acquiring property.

In 5th Enmity with Children, Loss of wisdom, Problem in

authority.

In 6th More bodily trouble, always struggle to face enmity.

7th house Less marital happiness, Disputes in partenership,

More quarrels.

8th house: Reduces Life span. Rise in the life will be with

more difficulty, or no rise. Problem regarding Will.

9th house: Disfame

10th house : Always differences with supiriors. Less

success in own business.

11th house: Enmity with friends. No big gain

12th house: Loss of Money, Imprisonment.

 

All above results are experienced when sixth lord is with

more points. With less points it will be reduced. Jupiter as sixth

lord and with more points gives loss of the pleasure due to that

house and also malefic result for the houses it aspects. Mars and

Saturn as sixth lord are better then Jupiter. Sun and Moon no effect.

 

Now sixth lord for Lagna becames lord of house E. When we

are finding the result for First house, ( Individuality) Sixth house

becames house E. More powerful sixth lord will give good

individuality. If this lord is getting more points in the worksheet

for first house, It will defeat the compititors and enemies, and will

gain good name. ( Refer the Chart of Prabhu Ram).

For finding the success we refer the points in 3:6th :10th

and 11th house. Here more points in 6th house compared to 3rd gives

good reputation.

The sixth lord also indicates victory over compititors or

enemies. So as lord of E it gives good result for 1st house. The

result is experienced in the sub of sixth lord.

Dear Sanjay, You have done a very nice thing for the group,

by making the worksheet program. You have made a very good program,

It means you have followed the system nicely, so your questions can

not be " ....... " .

For getting more and more in deep, one should have more

questions. Following any thing, or any system, with out any querry,

may not be good. Of cource before asking any question one should

take trouble to read the writeup.

 

krushna

 

 

 

, " Sanjay Jaggia "

<sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> In a mail to Margarita, you had mentioned that the 6th lord

generally

> creates problems for the chart. I request one or two clarifications

on that.

>

> 1. I suppose the problems are still there when the 6th lord happens

to be

> Sun or Moon but these are less. Please clarify.

>

> 2. In my understanding, the lords of D and E never cause any harm

to the

> native. They are normally supportive of him/her. the 6th lord is

lord of E

> for the 1st house as B. As the first house represents the self, and

the

> overall status of the person, how can the lord of 6th make trouble

for the

> chart?

>

> Is this because the lord of D and E are eager to give results

related to the

> house, whether positive or negative? But then the 6th lord should

also give

> good results.

>

> I am sorry if I sound stupid again but I really want to understand

the

> basics of the system before I try detailed interpretations.

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

>

>

> _______

>

> Get your free @ address at

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sanjay,

Sun and Moon do not became malefic as a sixth lord. It means

those should be treated as we are treating other planets. The effect

of the sight remain as it is. Sun or Moon with more points will have

their sight malefic.

Other planets when becames sixth lord they creats some problem

due their situation, and also due to sight. You can treat sixth lord

as malefic planet. Even such planet is with more points, will reduce

the happiness for the house it is situated.

krushna

 

, " Sanjay Jaggia "

<sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> Thank you for your detailed explanation and encouragement. It is

because of

> your encouragement that I keep asking more and more questions.

>

> Of course, I have read all the mails. Sometimes, the mind is

forgetful. I

> beg your indulgence for the times I might have wasted your time. A

wrap on

> the knuckles would be welcome for those times.

>

> Coming back to the issue, we then see that Sun and Moon as 6th

lords do not

> show so much malefic effect. So it is better if they have more

points. Is

> that right?

>

> Also, this also implies that Aquarius and Pisces ascendants have

some

> inherent advantages, other things being equal, as they have Sun or

Moon as

> the 6th lords which do not cause problems. Is this correct. I am

sure you

> will add other qualifications and I would like to see those.

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

> -

> <krushanain>

>

> Sunday, September 30, 2001 3:28 AM

> Re: 6th lord

>

>

> Dear Sanjay,

>

> Sixth lord in any house reduces the result of that house.

> For general planets we treat more points means benefic. For Sixth

> lord it is not so. Sixth lord will reduce the results, even if it is

> with more points. ( some other time I remember, I told you, ( not

> confirmed) that for getting actual reslt of Sixth lord, treat the

> points of Sixth lord as 8- the points ) Sun and Moon are not

treated

> as 6th lord.

> Sixth lord in 1st house reduces bodily happiness, more

> enemies, unlucky.

> In secon house, is bad for Family, family will break, Some

> problem with heridatory property.

> In 3rd house: No attachment in brothers and Sisters.

> In 4th Accidents, much difficulty in acquiring property.

> In 5th Enmity with Children, Loss of wisdom, Problem in

> authority.

> In 6th More bodily trouble, always struggle to face

enmity.

> 7th house Less marital happiness, Disputes in

partenership,

> More quarrels.

> 8th house: Reduces Life span. Rise in the life will be

with

> more difficulty, or no rise. Problem regarding Will.

> 9th house: Disfame

> 10th house : Always differences with supiriors. Less

> success in own business.

> 11th house: Enmity with friends. No big gain

> 12th house: Loss of Money, Imprisonment.

>

> All above results are experienced when sixth lord is with

> more points. With less points it will be reduced. Jupiter as sixth

> lord and with more points gives loss of the pleasure due to that

> house and also malefic result for the houses it aspects. Mars and

> Saturn as sixth lord are better then Jupiter. Sun and Moon no

effect.

>

> Now sixth lord for Lagna becames lord of house E. When we

> are finding the result for First house, ( Individuality) Sixth house

> becames house E. More powerful sixth lord will give good

> individuality. If this lord is getting more points in the worksheet

> for first house, It will defeat the compititors and enemies, and

will

> gain good name. ( Refer the Chart of Prabhu Ram).

> For finding the success we refer the points in 3:6th :10th

> and 11th house. Here more points in 6th house compared to 3rd gives

> good reputation.

> The sixth lord also indicates victory over compititors or

> enemies. So as lord of E it gives good result for 1st house. The

> result is experienced in the sub of sixth lord.

> Dear Sanjay, You have done a very nice thing for the

group,

> by making the worksheet program. You have made a very good program,

> It means you have followed the system nicely, so your questions can

> not be " ....... " .

> For getting more and more in deep, one should have more

> questions. Following any thing, or any system, with out any querry,

> may not be good. Of cource before asking any question one should

> take trouble to read the writeup.

>

> krushna

>

>

>

> , " Sanjay Jaggia "

> <sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> > Respected Krushnaji,

> >

> > In a mail to Margarita, you had mentioned that the 6th lord

> generally

> > creates problems for the chart. I request one or two

clarifications

> on that.

> >

> > 1. I suppose the problems are still there when the 6th lord

happens

> to be

> > Sun or Moon but these are less. Please clarify.

> >

> > 2. In my understanding, the lords of D and E never cause any harm

> to the

> > native. They are normally supportive of him/her. the 6th lord is

> lord of E

> > for the 1st house as B. As the first house represents the self,

and

> the

> > overall status of the person, how can the lord of 6th make trouble

> for the

> > chart?

> >

> > Is this because the lord of D and E are eager to give results

> related to the

> > house, whether positive or negative? But then the 6th lord should

> also give

> > good results.

> >

> > I am sorry if I sound stupid again but I really want to understand

> the

> > basics of the system before I try detailed interpretations.

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Sanjay

> >

> >

> > _______

> >

> > Get your free @ address at

>

>

>

>

> _______

>

> Get your free @ address at

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Respected Krushnaji,

 

Then is it true that Aquarius and Pisces ascendants are somewhat benefited?

 

Also, are the 8th and 12th lords not considered malefic in general? Their

malefic nature is to be taken only as per the points that they have?

 

Kind regards

Sanjay

 

-

<krushanain

 

Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:02 AM

Re: 6th lord

 

 

Dear Sanjay,

Sun and Moon do not became malefic as a sixth lord. It means

those should be treated as we are treating other planets. The effect

of the sight remain as it is. Sun or Moon with more points will have

their sight malefic.

Other planets when becames sixth lord they creats some problem

due their situation, and also due to sight. You can treat sixth lord

as malefic planet. Even such planet is with more points, will reduce

the happiness for the house it is situated.

krushna

 

, " Sanjay Jaggia "

<sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> Thank you for your detailed explanation and encouragement. It is

because of

> your encouragement that I keep asking more and more questions.

>

> Of course, I have read all the mails. Sometimes, the mind is

forgetful. I

> beg your indulgence for the times I might have wasted your time. A

wrap on

> the knuckles would be welcome for those times.

>

> Coming back to the issue, we then see that Sun and Moon as 6th

lords do not

> show so much malefic effect. So it is better if they have more

points. Is

> that right?

>

> Also, this also implies that Aquarius and Pisces ascendants have

some

> inherent advantages, other things being equal, as they have Sun or

Moon as

> the 6th lords which do not cause problems. Is this correct. I am

sure you

> will add other qualifications and I would like to see those.

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

> -

> <krushanain>

>

> Sunday, September 30, 2001 3:28 AM

> Re: 6th lord

>

>

> Dear Sanjay,

>

> Sixth lord in any house reduces the result of that house.

> For general planets we treat more points means benefic. For Sixth

> lord it is not so. Sixth lord will reduce the results, even if it is

> with more points. ( some other time I remember, I told you, ( not

> confirmed) that for getting actual reslt of Sixth lord, treat the

> points of Sixth lord as 8- the points ) Sun and Moon are not

treated

> as 6th lord.

> Sixth lord in 1st house reduces bodily happiness, more

> enemies, unlucky.

> In secon house, is bad for Family, family will break, Some

> problem with heridatory property.

> In 3rd house: No attachment in brothers and Sisters.

> In 4th Accidents, much difficulty in acquiring property.

> In 5th Enmity with Children, Loss of wisdom, Problem in

> authority.

> In 6th More bodily trouble, always struggle to face

enmity.

> 7th house Less marital happiness, Disputes in

partenership,

> More quarrels.

> 8th house: Reduces Life span. Rise in the life will be

with

> more difficulty, or no rise. Problem regarding Will.

> 9th house: Disfame

> 10th house : Always differences with supiriors. Less

> success in own business.

> 11th house: Enmity with friends. No big gain

> 12th house: Loss of Money, Imprisonment.

>

> All above results are experienced when sixth lord is with

> more points. With less points it will be reduced. Jupiter as sixth

> lord and with more points gives loss of the pleasure due to that

> house and also malefic result for the houses it aspects. Mars and

> Saturn as sixth lord are better then Jupiter. Sun and Moon no

effect.

>

> Now sixth lord for Lagna becames lord of house E. When we

> are finding the result for First house, ( Individuality) Sixth house

> becames house E. More powerful sixth lord will give good

> individuality. If this lord is getting more points in the worksheet

> for first house, It will defeat the compititors and enemies, and

will

> gain good name. ( Refer the Chart of Prabhu Ram).

> For finding the success we refer the points in 3:6th :10th

> and 11th house. Here more points in 6th house compared to 3rd gives

> good reputation.

> The sixth lord also indicates victory over compititors or

> enemies. So as lord of E it gives good result for 1st house. The

> result is experienced in the sub of sixth lord.

> Dear Sanjay, You have done a very nice thing for the

group,

> by making the worksheet program. You have made a very good program,

> It means you have followed the system nicely, so your questions can

> not be " ....... " .

> For getting more and more in deep, one should have more

> questions. Following any thing, or any system, with out any querry,

> may not be good. Of cource before asking any question one should

> take trouble to read the writeup.

>

> krushna

>

>

>

> , " Sanjay Jaggia "

> <sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> > Respected Krushnaji,

> >

> > In a mail to Margarita, you had mentioned that the 6th lord

> generally

> > creates problems for the chart. I request one or two

clarifications

> on that.

> >

> > 1. I suppose the problems are still there when the 6th lord

happens

> to be

> > Sun or Moon but these are less. Please clarify.

> >

> > 2. In my understanding, the lords of D and E never cause any harm

> to the

> > native. They are normally supportive of him/her. the 6th lord is

> lord of E

> > for the 1st house as B. As the first house represents the self,

and

> the

> > overall status of the person, how can the lord of 6th make trouble

> for the

> > chart?

> >

> > Is this because the lord of D and E are eager to give results

> related to the

> > house, whether positive or negative? But then the 6th lord should

> also give

> > good results.

> >

> > I am sorry if I sound stupid again but I really want to understand

> the

> > basics of the system before I try detailed interpretations.

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Sanjay

> >

> >

> > _______

> >

> > Get your free @ address at

>

>

>

>

> _______

>

> Get your free @ address at

 

 

 

 

_______

 

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Respected Krushnaji,

 

I think you missed this mail.

 

Kind regards

Sanjay

 

-

" Sanjay Jaggia " <sanjaygg2001

 

Tuesday, October 02, 2001 11:31 AM

Re: Re: 6th lord

 

 

Respected Krushnaji,

 

Then is it true that Aquarius and Pisces ascendants are somewhat benefited?

 

Also, are the 8th and 12th lords not considered malefic in general? Their

malefic nature is to be taken only as per the points that they have?

 

Kind regards

Sanjay

 

-

<krushanain

 

Tuesday, October 02, 2001 2:02 AM

Re: 6th lord

 

 

Dear Sanjay,

Sun and Moon do not became malefic as a sixth lord. It means

those should be treated as we are treating other planets. The effect

of the sight remain as it is. Sun or Moon with more points will have

their sight malefic.

Other planets when becames sixth lord they creats some problem

due their situation, and also due to sight. You can treat sixth lord

as malefic planet. Even such planet is with more points, will reduce

the happiness for the house it is situated.

krushna

 

, " Sanjay Jaggia "

<sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> Thank you for your detailed explanation and encouragement. It is

because of

> your encouragement that I keep asking more and more questions.

>

> Of course, I have read all the mails. Sometimes, the mind is

forgetful. I

> beg your indulgence for the times I might have wasted your time. A

wrap on

> the knuckles would be welcome for those times.

>

> Coming back to the issue, we then see that Sun and Moon as 6th

lords do not

> show so much malefic effect. So it is better if they have more

points. Is

> that right?

>

> Also, this also implies that Aquarius and Pisces ascendants have

some

> inherent advantages, other things being equal, as they have Sun or

Moon as

> the 6th lords which do not cause problems. Is this correct. I am

sure you

> will add other qualifications and I would like to see those.

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

> -

> <krushanain>

>

> Sunday, September 30, 2001 3:28 AM

> Re: 6th lord

>

>

> Dear Sanjay,

>

> Sixth lord in any house reduces the result of that house.

> For general planets we treat more points means benefic. For Sixth

> lord it is not so. Sixth lord will reduce the results, even if it is

> with more points. ( some other time I remember, I told you, ( not

> confirmed) that for getting actual reslt of Sixth lord, treat the

> points of Sixth lord as 8- the points ) Sun and Moon are not

treated

> as 6th lord.

> Sixth lord in 1st house reduces bodily happiness, more

> enemies, unlucky.

> In secon house, is bad for Family, family will break, Some

> problem with heridatory property.

> In 3rd house: No attachment in brothers and Sisters.

> In 4th Accidents, much difficulty in acquiring property.

> In 5th Enmity with Children, Loss of wisdom, Problem in

> authority.

> In 6th More bodily trouble, always struggle to face

enmity.

> 7th house Less marital happiness, Disputes in

partenership,

> More quarrels.

> 8th house: Reduces Life span. Rise in the life will be

with

> more difficulty, or no rise. Problem regarding Will.

> 9th house: Disfame

> 10th house : Always differences with supiriors. Less

> success in own business.

> 11th house: Enmity with friends. No big gain

> 12th house: Loss of Money, Imprisonment.

>

> All above results are experienced when sixth lord is with

> more points. With less points it will be reduced. Jupiter as sixth

> lord and with more points gives loss of the pleasure due to that

> house and also malefic result for the houses it aspects. Mars and

> Saturn as sixth lord are better then Jupiter. Sun and Moon no

effect.

>

> Now sixth lord for Lagna becames lord of house E. When we

> are finding the result for First house, ( Individuality) Sixth house

> becames house E. More powerful sixth lord will give good

> individuality. If this lord is getting more points in the worksheet

> for first house, It will defeat the compititors and enemies, and

will

> gain good name. ( Refer the Chart of Prabhu Ram).

> For finding the success we refer the points in 3:6th :10th

> and 11th house. Here more points in 6th house compared to 3rd gives

> good reputation.

> The sixth lord also indicates victory over compititors or

> enemies. So as lord of E it gives good result for 1st house. The

> result is experienced in the sub of sixth lord.

> Dear Sanjay, You have done a very nice thing for the

group,

> by making the worksheet program. You have made a very good program,

> It means you have followed the system nicely, so your questions can

> not be " ....... " .

> For getting more and more in deep, one should have more

> questions. Following any thing, or any system, with out any querry,

> may not be good. Of cource before asking any question one should

> take trouble to read the writeup.

>

> krushna

>

>

>

> , " Sanjay Jaggia "

> <sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> > Respected Krushnaji,

> >

> > In a mail to Margarita, you had mentioned that the 6th lord

> generally

> > creates problems for the chart. I request one or two

clarifications

> on that.

> >

> > 1. I suppose the problems are still there when the 6th lord

happens

> to be

> > Sun or Moon but these are less. Please clarify.

> >

> > 2. In my understanding, the lords of D and E never cause any harm

> to the

> > native. They are normally supportive of him/her. the 6th lord is

> lord of E

> > for the 1st house as B. As the first house represents the self,

and

> the

> > overall status of the person, how can the lord of 6th make trouble

> for the

> > chart?

> >

> > Is this because the lord of D and E are eager to give results

> related to the

> > house, whether positive or negative? But then the 6th lord should

> also give

> > good results.

> >

> > I am sorry if I sound stupid again but I really want to understand

> the

> > basics of the system before I try detailed interpretations.

> >

> > Kind regards

> > Sanjay

> >

> >

> > _______

> >

> > Get your free @ address at

>

>

>

>

> _______

>

> Get your free @ address at

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sanjay,

Both statements are correct.

There are two aspect of the event. 1) When the event will

happen. Here the lord of house E can give the result.

Now if we are considering the quontam of the result, as lord

of E is in the constellaton on 6th house ( which is 12th from B) So

the happiness from marriage will not be satisfactory.

When we have to answer only when the event will happen, For

Lords of D or E, we do not consider the sign or constellation.

Because they are more eager to give the result. So they can give the

result in their sub.

When the lords of D or E are in the constellation or Sign of

sixth lord, the overall result is reduced. Please differenciate

between date of event and quontam of result.

krushna

 

 

, " Sanjay Jaggia "

<sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> I need some clarifications about 6th lord.

>

> 1. In lesson 19, in the rules for 6th lord, rule 2 states

> ...if the lords of D and E are samdharmi to the 6th lord, or if

they are

> in the navamsha of the 6th lord, then the result of house B is even

more

> reduced "

>

> This indicates that D and E lords are also affected by the 6th lord.

>

> 2. In your email dated 1st September addressed to Margarita, Vikas,

and

> other list members, there is a portion which reads,

>

> " Here Mercury is with 17 points (max) and it is lord of E, so it

can give

> the marriage....(Being lord of E, we do not consider that it is in

the

> constellation of Jupiter and situated in the same Navamsha with

Jupiter.) "

>

> Jupiter in this case is 6th lord.

>

> Can you please guide us which rules are applicable in which cases

as these

> rules seem to indicate different things.

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

>

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Respected Krushnaji,

 

Is this statement valid only for the 6th lord or for every lord of 12th from

B. If lord of D or E is in the constellation or sign of the lord of 12th

from B, then the result of B reduces.

 

Kind regards

Sanjay

 

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Tuesday, October 09, 2001 9:00 PM

Re: 6th lord

 

 

Dear Sanjay,

Both statements are correct.

There are two aspect of the event. 1) When the event will

happen. Here the lord of house E can give the result.

Now if we are considering the quontam of the result, as lord

of E is in the constellaton on 6th house ( which is 12th from B) So

the happiness from marriage will not be satisfactory.

When we have to answer only when the event will happen, For

Lords of D or E, we do not consider the sign or constellation.

Because they are more eager to give the result. So they can give the

result in their sub.

When the lords of D or E are in the constellation or Sign of

sixth lord, the overall result is reduced. Please differenciate

between date of event and quontam of result.

krushna

 

 

, " Sanjay Jaggia "

<sanjaygg2001> wrote:

> Respected Krushnaji,

>

> I need some clarifications about 6th lord.

>

> 1. In lesson 19, in the rules for 6th lord, rule 2 states

> ...if the lords of D and E are samdharmi to the 6th lord, or if

they are

> in the navamsha of the 6th lord, then the result of house B is even

more

> reduced "

>

> This indicates that D and E lords are also affected by the 6th lord.

>

> 2. In your email dated 1st September addressed to Margarita, Vikas,

and

> other list members, there is a portion which reads,

>

> " Here Mercury is with 17 points (max) and it is lord of E, so it

can give

> the marriage....(Being lord of E, we do not consider that it is in

the

> constellation of Jupiter and situated in the same Navamsha with

Jupiter.) "

>

> Jupiter in this case is 6th lord.

>

> Can you please guide us which rules are applicable in which cases

as these

> rules seem to indicate different things.

>

> Kind regards

> Sanjay

>

>

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>

> Get your free @ address at

 

 

 

 

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Dear Margarita,

 

Thanks for your explanation and your taking the time to get out the old

mail.

 

I suppose one could define troubles in various ways. There could be trouble

with the parents which is a normal part of the growing process and the

person is learning to handle conflicts in a relatively safe environment.

 

The next stage could be that the person is having more irreconcilable

differences in opinion and the parents are too stifling. So the person

leaves home.

 

The most severe case could be that the parents and children are downright

hostile to each other.

 

Similarly, we could take the work environment, brushes with law, etc.

 

A brush with law could be that you get a speeding ticket. A serious one

could be where you accidentally injure someone and are put in jail until the

issue is sorted out.

 

In all these, there are troubles with the authority but the severity is

different. I suppose this would be read from the chart by taking into

account which planet is the 6th lord, which other house does it own, and

whether there are any D or E lordships also for the 6th lord.

 

Sometimes I get hopelessly confused with all these details but at least the

broad indications are becoming clearer.

 

Thanks for your help.

 

Best regards

Sanjay

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Friday, April 26, 2002 7:57 PM

6th lord

 

 

Hello Sanjay,

This " rule " about the 6th lord in the 10th house has in

fact nothing to do with Jupiter himself; I should have

pointed this out. It comes out of a mail that Krushna sent

to the list in September about the position of the 6th

lord. It just meant that in my case, having the 6th in the

10th gives problems with authority figures, meaning being

somewhat " allergic " to people having authority (parents,

boss, etc)when they impose their will or viewpoints. I

myself never had any problems with " having authority " ,

meaning that I could keep order and discipline when I was

teaching.

Best regards

Margarita

 

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Sunday, September 30, 2001 3:28 AM

Re: 6th lord

 

 

Dear Sanjay,

 

Sixth lord in any house reduces the result of

that house.

For general planets we treat more points means benefic. For

Sixth

lord it is not so. Sixth lord will reduce the results, even

if it is

with more points. ( some other time I remember, I told

you, ( not

confirmed) that for getting actual reslt of Sixth lord,

treat the

points of Sixth lord as 8- the points ) Sun and Moon are

not treated

as 6th lord.

Sixth lord in 1st house reduces bodily happiness,

more

enemies, unlucky.

In secon house, is bad for Family, family will

break, Some

problem with heridatory property.

In 3rd house: No attachment in brothers and

Sisters.

In 4th Accidents, much difficulty in acquiring

property.

In 5th Enmity with Children, Loss of wisdom,

Problem in

authority.

In 6th More bodily trouble, always struggle to

face enmity.

7th house Less marital happiness, Disputes in

partenership,

More quarrels.

8th house: Reduces Life span. Rise in the life

will be with

more difficulty, or no rise. Problem regarding Will.

9th house: Disfame

10th house : Always differences with supiriors.

Less

success in own business.

11th house: Enmity with friends. No big gain

12th house: Loss of Money, Imprisonment.

 

All above results are experienced when sixth lord

is with

more points. With less points it will be reduced. Jupiter

as sixth

lord and with more points gives loss of the pleasure due to

that

house and also malefic result for the houses it aspects.

Mars and

Saturn as sixth lord are better then Jupiter. Sun and Moon

no effect.

 

Now sixth lord for Lagna becames lord of house E.

When we

are finding the result for First house, ( Individuality)

Sixth house

becames house E. More powerful sixth lord will give good

individuality. If this lord is getting more points in the

worksheet

for first house, It will defeat the compititors and

enemies, and will

gain good name. ( Refer the Chart of Prabhu Ram).

For finding the success we refer the points in

3:6th :10th

and 11th house. Here more points in 6th house compared to

3rd gives

good reputation.

The sixth lord also indicates victory over

compititors or

enemies. So as lord of E it gives good result for 1st

house. The

result is experienced in the sub of sixth lord.

Dear Sanjay, You have done a very nice thing for

the group,

by making the worksheet program. You have made a very good

program,

It means you have followed the system nicely, so your

questions can

not be " ....... " .

For getting more and more in deep, one should have

more

questions. Following any thing, or any system, with out any

querry,

may not be good. Of cource before asking any question one

should

take trouble to read the writeup.

 

krushna

 

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Dear Margarita,

Have yourself a great vacation. Bon Voyage.

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

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> Thank you Krushna for this mail which answers Ash's

> questions.

> I will be off on vacation (again...) tomorrow until the

> first week of July.

> Best regards

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Dear Denis,

Black hole means place where the original property of any

thing lost. There are some black hole in universe, if any thing come

near it is lost, The volume of that thing is zero, weight remains

same.

So I compared 6th house as black hole.

Generally any planet, in 6th house looses it's property.

More benefic planet, will give more malefic result.

krushna

 

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>

> I have noticed this phrase in a message:

> " You can treat

> sixth house as a black hole, where every planet plays in reverse

way. "

>

> I am not sure I have understood it. Could you tell me more?

>

> * Does a benefic planet in the 6th house become a malefic in its

subperiod?

> And vice versa?

> * Does this reversal affect the aspects of this planet?

>

> Thanks a lot

> Denis

>

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> Wednesday, June 12, 2002 2:37 PM

> SAV v/s Significators

>

>

> > Dear Krushnaji, Margarita, Sanjay and list members,

> >

> > My next set of doubts were regarding SAV. I had again scanned the

> > archives, and I believe in the past you all had a good discussion

> > regarding SAV, Significator points.

> >

> > However I joined the list a little later on and missed those. I

went

> > through those exchanges but I could not understand some of the

> > concepts behind those reasonings.

> >

> > I wanted to understand what those points meant as compared to

> > Significator.

> >

> > Sanjay, had asked the similar question in the past and Krushnaji

had

> > explained, however it was not very clear to me.

> >

> >

> > case 1 :

> > --------

> > If a house gets say 19 points in SAV for the 7th house. If for

the

> > 7th house say planets get 20,18,15,6,16,18,15 points (sun thru

shani).

> >

> > What would that mean. What is SAV of 19 points showing here. If

in

> > our example during Sun antra, sun is getting 20 points, so it is

> > powerful, so what is 19 points in SAV showing ?

> >

> >

> > case 2:

> > -------

> > If a house gets say 35 points in SAV for the 7th house. If for

the

> > 7th house say planets get 10,5,-6,9,12,11,4 points (sun thru

shani).

> >

> > What would that mean. In this case with an SAV being 35 shows a

> > powerful house, but what is the weak significators showing ?

> >

> > Could you please help me understand this concept please as its

very

> > basic but very important.

> >

> > Thanking you,

> > Cheers !!!

> > Ash

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Margarita,

 

Lets see for all planets.

 

1) Mars if in own house in 6th house with 2 bindus. Such a Mars

will give aspect to 1st, 9th and 12th. Mars is LOE for 1st house and

LOD for 9th house. Since its aspecting both IT SHOULD GIVE BENEFIC

DRISTI.

 

case II

 

Mars if in 6th house in own house with 6 bindus. Such a Mars will

aspect 9th, 1st and 12th house. As per basic rule of the system LOD

and LOE will not give malefic dristi. So again 9th and 1st will not

get -6 bindus dristi infact for 1st house being LOE it will get +5

added and for 9th also +5 points will be added due to fact it being

LOD or LOE.

 

2) LOE or LOD situated in Karak sthan is good. For 6th as B, 1st

house becomes A. Now LOE situated in House A.

 

3) For 9th house as B, LOA is 4th lord and LOD and LOE are 2nd and

6th.

 

If 9th lord is situated in 6th house so here LOB will be situated in

House D.

 

These are some things I could think of w.r.t 1st and 9th house

w.r.t. 6th house and 6th lord.

 

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

 

, " dirk & margarita

lettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote:

> Hello Ash, listmembers,

> So Krushna corrected his mail saying that THE 6TH LORD WITH MORE

POINTS IN

> THE 1ST INCREASES THE RESULTS OF THAT HOUSE AS B. This planet will

> negatively affect the houses it aspects and this according to the

points. OK

> everybody got that I think

>

> I remember reading somewhere but couldn't find it back that the

6th and the

> 10th lord don't harm the 1st. This is because they are lords of D

and E. But

> I was just wondering if this law only apply to the 1st house. I

think so

> otherwise Krushna would have said any house and he corrected " any

house " by

> " first house " for this rule.

> KRHUSNA PLEASE CAN YOU COMMENT ON THIS.

> Best regards

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Dear Margarita,

 

I am just writing my question in CAPS

 

You wrote " I remember reading somewhere but couldn't find it back

that the 6th and the

> 10th lord don't harm the 1st. This is because they are lords of D

and E. But

> I was just wondering if this law only apply to the 1st house. I

think so

> otherwise Krushna would have said any house and he corrected " any

house " by

> " first house " for this rule. "

 

ASH : YES THIS MAKES COMPLETE SENSE AS THEY ARE LORDS OF D AND E AND

LORDS OF D AND E NEVER OBSTRUCT HOUSE B. IN THIS CASE HOUSE B = 1.

 

YES LETS WAIT FOR KRUSHNAJI TO CONFIRM THIS.

 

Thanks,

Cheers !!!

Ash

 

, " dirk & margarita

lettens " <dmlettens@s...> wrote:

> Hello Ash, listmembers,

> So Krushna corrected his mail saying that THE 6TH LORD WITH MORE

POINTS IN

> THE 1ST INCREASES THE RESULTS OF THAT HOUSE AS B. This planet will

> negatively affect the houses it aspects and this according to the

points. OK

> everybody got that I think

>

> I remember reading somewhere but couldn't find it back that the

6th and the

> 10th lord don't harm the 1st. This is because they are lords of D

and E. But

> I was just wondering if this law only apply to the 1st house. I

think so

> otherwise Krushna would have said any house and he corrected " any

house " by

> " first house " for this rule.

> KRHUSNA PLEASE CAN YOU COMMENT ON THIS.

> Best regards

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Dear Satish,

much is said in lesson and archive about 6th lord.

about 9th house Krushnaji has elobrated in one mail in archive..

talking about dharmakarmadhipatiya yoga and if 9th lord situated in

10th house spoils the 10th house.

unfortunately i dont have the messag number but you should be able to

find that in archive.

thanks/regards

harjeet

 

, SPK

<aquaris_rising wrote:

>

> Dear Ramesh, Ash, and all

>

> When we talk about 7th house as B , the 6th lord

> becomes not only 6th lord but also the lord of 12th

> from house B.

>

> When we talk of 10 th house, 9th house becomes 12th

> from house B. In this case how would you in KAS

> ascertain the properties of the 9th lord? Will the 6th

> lord behave malefically for most houses if it gets in

> relationship with them, with the exception of when 6th

> lord becomes loD or LoE.

>

> Is there something in archives that can elaborate this

> point ?

>

> Thanks

>

> Satish

> --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Ash, Anup, Satish, Harjeet and all,

> > Here is my attempt goes.

> > I got asc. as 15 Cp 7.

> > Significators for 7th are Sa, Mo and Ma. All these

> > three planets are aspected by 6th lord Me from D

> > house. LoD is also Ma and LoE is Ju who is in the

> > navamsa of 6th lord. Ma is also in the navamsa of

> > 6th lord.

> > It means 6th influence is over all the planets

> > meant for 7th house.

> > There seems to be one plus point that Ju a benefic

> > and LoE aspects Me (6th lord) but this hope is

> > diminished being Ju in Me navamsa.

> > Ve is influenced by Sa , Ma and Ra.

> > There is full delay caused by Sa and Ju both.

> > Though delay is moderated by Ju but being in Me

> > navamsa it will not moderate the delay.

> > One zero in 5th house by Mo.

> > Delay will be over on 3 Sep 09 when Ra antara in

> > Ju main will be in force.

> > The native has long way to go for marriage.

> > I have come across many charts where 6th lord

> > influenced all significators and native remained

> > unmarried.

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 wrote:

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Here is a chart of a female

> > who was engaged on 20th july2007

> > and her engagement was broken after two weaks.

> > She didnt submit any deatil except this.

> > While applying KAS,can we find the reason for such

> > time?

> > The answer lies perhapes while applying KAS.

> >

> > TOB 13th May1984

> > DOB 23.41PM

> > Lat 13N05 Longi 80E18 IST

> >

> > One zero in 5th house by Moon.

> > Delay by Saturn.

> > When she can marry?

> >

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

>

>

>

>

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Dear Satish,

10th house is most powerful quadrant and 9th house

is most powerful trine. 10th house is that of Karma and its Karak

for 3rd house and parakram. That is why we are taking 10th

lords from lagna, Sun and Moon.

10th house is A and KArak for parakram. So it controls

the status of your actions and efforts and hence it denotes the occupation. If

Brihat Jataka and other texts only 10th lords from lagna sun and mo

and its navamsa deposter portion is given and explanation for why that is the

case is not given. As per KAS also we follow the similar thing and here, we

are denoting the reason on why 10th lord is taken from lagna sun and

moon.

Now 9th house is that of fortunes, its OPPOSITE of 3rd

house i.e. parakram. 9th house denotes what we call luck and a

fortunate person as they tend to get things more easily and with less effort.

Now 10th lord in 9th house is Dharma Karama

adhipati as per VA and we say that 10th lord in 9th means

such a person might rely more on luck rather than putting in more effort.

Again Kendra lord in Trine is good.

Now 10th lord in 9th house means its in House

D for 12th as B. So again it, can trigger 12th house and

that is of moksh / enjoyment / pleasures.

 

Another way to look at this is going by the basic principle of KAS

and that is that planets that aspect House A, B and C do not give results their

SD’s might give. Here 10th lord who is Karak for 3rd

goes in 9th house, so from 9th house it aspects 3rd

house so itself can’t give result. 9th house is the house

opposite of 3rd so such person might tend to rely more on 9th

house matters or luck or dharm etc, rather than believe in putting in more

struggle and effort.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of SPK

Friday September 21, 2007

2:39 PM

 

Subject:

6th lord

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Ramesh, Ash, and all

 

When we talk about 7th house as B , the 6th lord

becomes not only 6th lord but also the lord of 12th

from house B.

 

When we talk of 10 th house, 9th house becomes 12th

from house B. In this case how would you in KAS

ascertain the properties of the 9th lord? Will the 6th

lord behave malefically for most houses if it gets in

relationship with them, with the exception of when 6th

lord becomes loD or LoE.

 

Is there something in archives that can elaborate this

point ?

 

Thanks

 

Satish

--- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

wrote:

 

> Dear Ash, Anup, Satish, Harjeet and all,

> Here is my attempt goes.

> I got asc. as 15 Cp 7.

> Significators for 7th are Sa, Mo and Ma. All these

> three planets are aspected by 6th lord Me from D

> house. LoD is also Ma and LoE is Ju who is in the

> navamsa of 6th lord. Ma is also in the navamsa of

> 6th lord.

> It means 6th influence is over all the planets

> meant for 7th house.

> There seems to be one plus point that Ju a benefic

> and LoE aspects Me (6th lord) but this hope is

> diminished being Ju in Me navamsa.

> Ve is influenced by Sa , Ma and Ra.

> There is full delay caused by Sa and Ju both.

> Though delay is moderated by Ju but being in Me

> navamsa it will not moderate the delay.

> One zero in 5th house by Mo.

> Delay will be over on 3 Sep 09 when Ra antara in

> Ju main will be in force.

> The native has long way to go for marriage.

> I have come across many charts where 6th lord

> influenced all significators and native remained

> unmarried.

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> " Anup. M " <dalh_1 >

wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> Here is a chart of a female

> who was engaged on 20th july2007

> and her engagement was broken after two weaks.

> She didnt submit any deatil except this.

> While applying KAS,can we find the reason for such

> time?

> The answer lies perhapes while applying KAS.

>

> TOB 13th May1984

> DOB 23.41PM

> Lat 13N05 Longi 80E18 IST

>

> One zero in 5th house by Moon.

> Delay by Saturn.

> When she can marry?

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

 

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Dear Harjeet and Satish,

Here is my mail.

 

It is better not to have 12th from B powerful for House

B. I think Krushnaji has also written that in some old mail that I

remember very well.

As far as timing is concerned, high power planet can give result so

if 12th from B is giving high power to House B and its antra comes

then it may give the result but such a result will have lots of problems.

Again, be careful, for dual lordship. Say Gemini is lagna and

Mars is 6th and 11th lord so here its LoC for 7th

house and its also 12th from B. So here u have to study it

more keenly.

 

Say u are buying a house and say Aries is lagna then 3rd

and 6th lord both are Mercury. So Me is 12th from 4th

but its also 3rd upachaya from 4th as well. So here

u have to study it keenly.

 

Kendra lord and Kona lord when they conjoin it’s a Raj

Yog. Krushanji has also written about that in the archives if someone can

find his mail, it was a conversation between Sanjay Jaggia and Krushnaji.

That should help in searching the archives.

 

Rest in the attached mail.

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Ash

Friday September 21, 2007

6:28 PM

 

RE:

6th lord

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

10th house is most powerful quadrant and 9th

house is most powerful trine. 10th house is that of Karma and

its Karak for 3rd house and parakram. That is why we are

taking 10th lords from lagna, Sun and Moon.

10th house is A and KArak for parakram. So it

controls the status of your actions and efforts and hence it denotes the

occupation. If Brihat Jataka and other texts only 10th lords

from lagna sun and mo and its navamsa deposter portion is given and explanation

for why that is the case is not given. As per KAS also we follow the

similar thing and here, we are denoting the reason on why 10th lord

is taken from lagna sun and moon.

Now 9th house is that of fortunes, its OPPOSITE of 3rd

house i.e. parakram. 9th house denotes what we call luck and a

fortunate person as they tend to get things more easily and with less

effort.

Now 10th lord in 9th house is Dharma Karama

adhipati as per VA and we say that 10th lord in 9th means

such a person might rely more on luck rather than putting in more effort.

Again Kendra lord in Trine is good.

Now 10th lord in 9th house means its in House

D for 12th as B. So again it, can trigger 12th

house and that is of moksh / enjoyment / pleasures.

 

Another way to look at this is going by the basic principle of KAS

and that is that planets that aspect House A, B and C do not give results their

SD’s might give. Here 10th lord who is Karak for 3rd

goes in 9th house, so from 9th house it aspects 3rd

house so itself can’t give result. 9th house is the

house opposite of 3rd so such person might tend to rely more on 9th

house matters or luck or dharm etc, rather than believe in putting in more

struggle and effort.

 

 

Cheers !!!

 

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of SPK

Friday September 21, 2007

2:39 PM

 

 

6th lord

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh,

Ash, and all

 

When we talk about 7th house as B , the 6th lord

becomes not only 6th lord but also the lord of 12th

from house B.

 

When we talk of 10 th house, 9th house becomes 12th

from house B. In this case how would you in KAS

ascertain the properties of the 9th lord? Will the 6th

lord behave malefically for most houses if it gets in

relationship with them, with the exception of when 6th

lord becomes loD or LoE.

 

Is there something in archives that can elaborate this

point ?

 

Thanks

 

Satish

--- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

wrote:

 

> Dear Ash, Anup, Satish, Harjeet and all,

> Here is my attempt goes.

> I got asc. as 15 Cp 7.

> Significators for 7th are Sa, Mo and Ma. All these

> three planets are aspected by 6th lord Me from D

> house. LoD is also Ma and LoE is Ju who is in the

> navamsa of 6th lord. Ma is also in the navamsa of

> 6th lord.

> It means 6th influence is over all the planets

> meant for 7th house.

> There seems to be one plus point that Ju a benefic

> and LoE aspects Me (6th lord) but this hope is

> diminished being Ju in Me navamsa.

> Ve is influenced by Sa , Ma and Ra.

> There is full delay caused by Sa and Ju both.

> Though delay is moderated by Ju but being in Me

> navamsa it will not moderate the delay.

> One zero in 5th house by Mo.

> Delay will be over on 3 Sep 09 when Ra antara in

> Ju main will be in force.

> The native has long way to go for marriage.

> I have come across many charts where 6th lord

> influenced all significators and native remained

> unmarried.

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> " Anup. M " <dalh_1 >

wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> Here is a chart of a female

> who was engaged on 20th july2007

> and her engagement was broken after two weaks.

> She didnt submit any deatil except this.

> While applying KAS,can we find the reason for such

> time?

> The answer lies perhapes while applying KAS.

>

> TOB 13th May1984

> DOB 23.41PM

> Lat 13N05 Longi 80E18 IST

>

> One zero in 5th house by Moon.

> Delay by Saturn.

> When she can marry?

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

 

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, " Ash " <kas wrote:

>

Thanks very much Ashji for your reply.

yes dual lordship creates much confusion.

so what approach to follow in such cases... is there any method or

steps to follow when 6th lord also becomes lord of B or C etc..

mars for gemini asc. now can we say that the 6th lord and C lord are

same.. so 6th lord automatically degrades the quality of house C ?

another example for leo. asc. here saturn is 6th and 7th lord. i.e.

12th from (B=7). if such saturn is in house A. in such case what do we

approach ? marriage is bad because 6th lord in A or marriage is good

because 7th lord in A(karak sthan).?

Krushnaji in one mail said to study sight of Saturn in such case.. but

again the sight is from lord of B and 12th lord from B ?

in short can we say that such positioning the planet would be neutral

towards house B ?

thanks/regards

harjeet

 

> Dear Harjeet and Satish,

>

> Here is my mail.

>

>

>

> It is better not to have 12th from B powerful for House B. I think

> Krushnaji has also written that in some old mail that I remember

very well.

>

> As far as timing is concerned, high power planet can give result so

if 12th

> from B is giving high power to House B and its antra comes then it

may give

> the result but such a result will have lots of problems.

>

> Again, be careful, for dual lordship. Say Gemini is lagna and Mars

is 6th

> and 11th lord so here its LoC for 7th house and its also 12th from

B. So

> here u have to study it more keenly.

>

>

>

> Say u are buying a house and say Aries is lagna then 3rd and 6th

lord both

> are Mercury. So Me is 12th from 4th but its also 3rd upachaya from

4th as

> well. So here u have to study it keenly.

>

>

>

> Kendra lord and Kona lord when they conjoin it's a Raj Yog.

Krushanji has

> also written about that in the archives if someone can find his

mail, it was

> a conversation between Sanjay Jaggia and Krushnaji. That should help in

> searching the archives.

>

>

>

> Rest in the attached mail.

>

>

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Ash

> Friday September 21, 2007 6:28 PM

>

> RE: 6th lord

>

>

>

> Dear Satish,

>

> 10th house is most powerful quadrant and 9th house is most powerful

trine.

> 10th house is that of Karma and its Karak for 3rd house and

parakram. That

> is why we are taking 10th lords from lagna, Sun and Moon.

>

> 10th house is A and KArak for parakram. So it controls the status

of your

> actions and efforts and hence it denotes the occupation. If Brihat

Jataka

> and other texts only 10th lords from lagna sun and mo and its navamsa

> deposter portion is given and explanation for why that is the case

is not

> given. As per KAS also we follow the similar thing and here, we are

> denoting the reason on why 10th lord is taken from lagna sun and moon.

>

> Now 9th house is that of fortunes, its OPPOSITE of 3rd house i.e.

parakram.

> 9th house denotes what we call luck and a fortunate person as they

tend to

> get things more easily and with less effort.

>

> Now 10th lord in 9th house is Dharma Karama adhipati as per VA and

we say

> that 10th lord in 9th means such a person might rely more on luck rather

> than putting in more effort. Again Kendra lord in Trine is good.

>

> Now 10th lord in 9th house means its in House D for 12th as B. So

again it,

> can trigger 12th house and that is of moksh / enjoyment / pleasures.

>

>

>

> Another way to look at this is going by the basic principle of KAS

and that

> is that planets that aspect House A, B and C do not give results

their SD's

> might give. Here 10th lord who is Karak for 3rd goes in 9th house,

so from

> 9th house it aspects 3rd house so itself can't give result. 9th

house is

> the house opposite of 3rd so such person might tend to rely more on 9th

> house matters or luck or dharm etc, rather than believe in putting

in more

> struggle and effort.

>

>

>

> Cheers !!!

>

> Ash -> <http://www.ashtro.ca> http://www.ashtro.ca

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of SPK

> Friday September 21, 2007 2:39 PM

>

> 6th lord

>

>

>

> Dear Ramesh, Ash, and all

>

> When we talk about 7th house as B , the 6th lord

> becomes not only 6th lord but also the lord of 12th

> from house B.

>

> When we talk of 10 th house, 9th house becomes 12th

> from house B. In this case how would you in KAS

> ascertain the properties of the 9th lord? Will the 6th

> lord behave malefically for most houses if it gets in

> relationship with them, with the exception of when 6th

> lord becomes loD or LoE.

>

> Is there something in archives that can elaborate this

> point ?

>

> Thanks

>

> Satish

> --- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002@

<aarceemastro2002%40.co.in>

> .co.in>

> wrote:

>

> > Dear Ash, Anup, Satish, Harjeet and all,

> > Here is my attempt goes.

> > I got asc. as 15 Cp 7.

> > Significators for 7th are Sa, Mo and Ma. All these

> > three planets are aspected by 6th lord Me from D

> > house. LoD is also Ma and LoE is Ju who is in the

> > navamsa of 6th lord. Ma is also in the navamsa of

> > 6th lord.

> > It means 6th influence is over all the planets

> > meant for 7th house.

> > There seems to be one plus point that Ju a benefic

> > and LoE aspects Me (6th lord) but this hope is

> > diminished being Ju in Me navamsa.

> > Ve is influenced by Sa , Ma and Ra.

> > There is full delay caused by Sa and Ju both.

> > Though delay is moderated by Ju but being in Me

> > navamsa it will not moderate the delay.

> > One zero in 5th house by Mo.

> > Delay will be over on 3 Sep 09 when Ra antara in

> > Ju main will be in force.

> > The native has long way to go for marriage.

> > I have come across many charts where 6th lord

> > influenced all significators and native remained

> > unmarried.

> > Thanks and regards.

> > Ramesh Mishra

> >

> > " Anup. M " <dalh_1 (AT) (DOT) <dalh_1%40> com> wrote:

> > Dear All,

> >

> > Here is a chart of a female

> > who was engaged on 20th july2007

> > and her engagement was broken after two weaks.

> > She didnt submit any deatil except this.

> > While applying KAS,can we find the reason for such

> > time?

> > The answer lies perhapes while applying KAS.

> >

> > TOB 13th May1984

> > DOB 23.41PM

> > Lat 13N05 Longi 80E18 IST

> >

> > One zero in 5th house by Moon.

> > Delay by Saturn.

> > When she can marry?

> >

> > Regards

> > Anup

> >

>

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Dear Ash ,Harjeet, and all This might be the mail Krushnaji wrote about rajyayoga But i have no mail number. "Raj yog meansexchange of lords of Physical plane and Dharma triplicity 1,5,9houses. for cancer or Leo ascendent Mars is lord of kendra andtrikona, if it is powerful, situated in the 10th house from any otherplanet with less points, becames power ful. Similarly for Libra andTaurus lagna Saturn is lord of kendra and trikona houses, if suchSaturn is powerful it will give some assistance emplyed" Dear Sanjay,All your reasonings are correct, When a person have any turningpoint in his life, then he must have some Raj Yog. Second house orthe lord of 2nd house should not have any effect of Saturn. If sucheffect is there then the person rises to a certain level, and thendue to his

mental satisfaction, he do not go ahead, or do not try togo ahead. He may have less affinity for Money.krushna Regards Anup Ash <kas wrote: Dear Harjeet and Satish, Here is my mail. It is better not to have 12th from B powerful for House B. I think Krushnaji has also written that in some old mail that I remember very well. As far as timing is concerned, high power planet can give result so if 12th from B is giving high power to House B and its antra comes then it may give the result but such a result will have lots of problems. Again, be careful, for dual lordship. Say Gemini is lagna and Mars is 6th and 11th lord so here its LoC for 7th house and its also 12th from B. So here u have to study it more keenly. Say u are buying a house and say Aries is lagna then 3rd and 6th lord both are Mercury. So Me is 12th from 4th but its also 3rd upachaya from 4th as well. So here u have to study it keenly. Kendra lord and Kona lord when they conjoin it’s a Raj Yog. Krushanji has also written about that in the archives if someone can find his mail, it was a conversation between Sanjay Jaggia and Krushnaji. That should help in searching the archives. Rest in the attached mail. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of AshFriday September 21, 2007 6:28 PM Subject: RE: 6th lord Dear Satish, 10th house is most powerful quadrant and 9th house is most powerful trine. 10th house is that of Karma and its Karak for 3rd house and parakram. That is why we are taking 10th lords from lagna, Sun and Moon. 10th house is A and KArak for parakram. So it controls the status of your actions and efforts and hence it denotes the occupation. If Brihat Jataka and other texts only 10th lords from lagna sun and mo and its navamsa deposter portion is given and explanation for why that is the case is not given. As per KAS also we follow the similar thing and here, we are denoting the reason on why

10th lord is taken from lagna sun and moon. Now 9th house is that of fortunes, its OPPOSITE of 3rd house i.e. parakram. 9th house denotes what we call luck and a fortunate person as they tend to get things more easily and with less effort. Now 10th lord in 9th house is Dharma Karama adhipati as per VA and we say that 10th lord in 9th means such a person might rely more on luck rather than putting in more effort. Again Kendra lord in Trine is good. Now 10th lord in 9th house means its in House D for 12th as B. So again it, can trigger 12th house and that is of moksh / enjoyment / pleasures. Another way to look at this is going by the basic principle of KAS and that is that planets that aspect House A, B and C do not give results their SD’s might give. Here 10th lord who is Karak for 3rd goes in 9th house, so from 9th house it aspects 3rd house so itself can’t give result. 9th house is the house opposite of 3rd

so such person might tend to rely more on 9th house matters or luck or dharm etc, rather than believe in putting in more struggle and effort. Cheers !!! Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca On Behalf Of SPKFriday September 21, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: 6th lord

Dear Ramesh, Ash, and allWhen we talk about 7th house as B , the 6th lordbecomes not only 6th lord but also the lord of 12thfrom house B.When we talk of 10 th house, 9th house becomes 12thfrom house B. In this case how would you in KASascertain the properties of the 9th lord? Will the 6thlord behave malefically for most houses if it gets inrelationship with them, with the exception of when 6thlord becomes loD or LoE.Is there something in archives that can elaborate thispoint ?ThanksSatish--- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in>wrote:> Dear Ash, Anup, Satish,

Harjeet and all,> Here is my attempt goes.> I got asc. as 15 Cp 7.> Significators for 7th are Sa, Mo and Ma. All these> three planets are aspected by 6th lord Me from D> house. LoD is also Ma and LoE is Ju who is in the> navamsa of 6th lord. Ma is also in the navamsa of> 6th lord.> It means 6th influence is over all the planets> meant for 7th house.> There seems to be one plus point that Ju a benefic> and LoE aspects Me (6th lord) but this hope is> diminished being Ju in Me navamsa.> Ve is influenced by Sa , Ma and Ra.> There is full delay caused by Sa and Ju both.> Though delay is moderated by Ju but being in Me> navamsa it will not moderate the delay.> One zero in 5th house by Mo.> Delay will be over on 3 Sep 09 when Ra antara in> Ju main will be in force.> The native has long way to go for

marriage.> I have come across many charts where 6th lord> influenced all significators and native remained> unmarried.> Thanks and regards.> Ramesh Mishra> > "Anup. M" <dalh_1 > wrote:> Dear All,> > Here is a chart of a female> who was engaged on 20th july2007> and her engagement was broken after two weaks.> She didnt submit any deatil except this.> While applying KAS,can we find the reason for such> time?> The answer lies perhapes while applying KAS.> > TOB 13th May1984> DOB 23.41PM> Lat 13N05 Longi 80E18 IST> > One zero in 5th house by Moon.> Delay by Saturn.> When she can marry?> > Regards> Anup> ________Moody friends. Drama

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Dear all,

Here is Krushnaji’s mail on Raj

Yog.

 

/message/3535

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Anup. M

Tuesday September 25, 2007

1:37 PM

 

Re: FW:

6th lord

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ash ,Harjeet, and all

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This might be the mail Krushnaji wrote about rajyayoga

 

 

But i have no mail number.

 

 

 

 

 

" Raj yog means

exchange of lords of Physical plane and Dharma triplicity 1,5,9

houses. for cancer or Leo ascendent Mars is lord of kendra and

trikona, if it is powerful, situated in the 10th house from any other

planet with less points, becames power ful. Similarly for Libra and

Taurus lagna Saturn is lord of kendra and trikona houses, if such

Saturn is powerful it will give some assistance emplyed "

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sanjay,

All your reasonings are correct, When a person have any turning

point in his life, then he must have some Raj Yog. Second house or

the lord of 2nd house should not have any effect of Saturn. If such

effect is there then the person rises to a certain level, and then

due to his mental satisfaction, he do not go ahead, or do not try to

go ahead. He may have less affinity for Money.

krushna

 

 

 

 

 

Regards

 

 

Anup

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ash <kas

wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Harjeet and Satish,

 

 

Here is my mail.

 

 

It is better not to have 12th

from B powerful for House B. I think Krushnaji has also written that in

some old mail that I remember very well.

 

 

As far as timing is concerned, high

power planet can give result so if 12th from B is giving high power

to House B and its antra comes then it may give the result but such a result

will have lots of problems.

 

 

Again, be careful, for dual

lordship. Say Gemini is lagna and Mars is 6th and 11th

lord so here its LoC for 7th house and its also 12th from

B. So here u have to study it more keenly.

 

 

Say u are buying a house and say

Aries is lagna then 3rd and 6th lord both are

Mercury. So Me is 12th from 4th but its also 3rd

upachaya from 4th as well. So here u have to study it keenly.

 

 

Kendra lord and Kona lord when

they conjoin it’s a Raj Yog. Krushanji has also written about that

in the archives if someone can find his mail, it was a conversation between

Sanjay Jaggia and Krushnaji. That should help in searching the archives.

 

 

Rest in the attached mail.

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

 

 

 

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Ash

Friday September 21, 2007

6:28 PM

 

RE:

6th lord

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Satish,

 

 

10th house is most powerful

quadrant and 9th house is most powerful trine. 10th

house is that of Karma and its Karak for 3rd house and

parakram. That is why we are taking 10th lords from lagna, Sun

and Moon.

 

 

10th house is A and KArak for

parakram. So it controls the status of your actions and efforts and hence

it denotes the occupation. If Brihat Jataka and other texts only 10th

lords from lagna sun and mo and its navamsa deposter portion is given and

explanation for why that is the case is not given. As per KAS also we

follow the similar thing and here, we are denoting the reason on why 10th

lord is taken from lagna sun and moon.

 

 

Now 9th house is that of

fortunes, its OPPOSITE of 3rd house i.e. parakram. 9th

house denotes what we call luck and a fortunate person as they tend to get

things more easily and with less effort.

 

 

Now 10th lord in 9th

house is Dharma Karama adhipati as per VA and we say that 10th lord

in 9th means such a person might rely more on luck rather than

putting in more effort. Again Kendra lord in Trine is good.

 

 

Now 10th lord in 9th

house means its in House D for 12th as B. So again it, can

trigger 12th house and that is of moksh / enjoyment / pleasures.

 

 

Another way to look at this is

going by the basic principle of KAS and that is that planets that aspect House

A, B and C do not give results their SD’s might give. Here 10th

lord who is Karak for 3rd goes in 9th house, so from 9th

house it aspects 3rd house so itself can’t give result.

9th house is the house opposite of 3rd so such person

might tend to rely more on 9th house matters or luck or dharm etc,

rather than believe in putting in more struggle and effort.

 

 

 

Cheers !!!

 

 

 

Ash -> http://www.ashtro.ca

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of SPK

Friday September 21, 2007

2:39 PM

 

 

6th lord

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Ramesh, Ash, and all

 

When we talk about 7th house as B , the 6th lord

becomes not only 6th lord but also the lord of 12th

from house B.

 

When we talk of 10 th house, 9th house becomes 12th

from house B. In this case how would you in KAS

ascertain the properties of the 9th lord? Will the 6th

lord behave malefically for most houses if it gets in

relationship with them, with the exception of when 6th

lord becomes loD or LoE.

 

Is there something in archives that can elaborate this

point ?

 

Thanks

 

Satish

--- ramesh mishra <aarceemastro2002 (AT) (DOT) co.in>

wrote:

 

> Dear Ash, Anup, Satish, Harjeet and all,

> Here is my attempt goes.

> I got asc. as 15 Cp 7.

> Significators for 7th are Sa, Mo and Ma. All these

> three planets are aspected by 6th lord Me from D

> house. LoD is also Ma and LoE is Ju who is in the

> navamsa of 6th lord. Ma is also in the navamsa of

> 6th lord.

> It means 6th influence is over all the planets

> meant for 7th house.

> There seems to be one plus point that Ju a benefic

> and LoE aspects Me (6th lord) but this hope is

> diminished being Ju in Me navamsa.

> Ve is influenced by Sa , Ma and Ra.

> There is full delay caused by Sa and Ju both.

> Though delay is moderated by Ju but being in Me

> navamsa it will not moderate the delay.

> One zero in 5th house by Mo.

> Delay will be over on 3 Sep 09 when Ra antara in

> Ju main will be in force.

> The native has long way to go for marriage.

> I have come across many charts where 6th lord

> influenced all significators and native remained

> unmarried.

> Thanks and regards.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> " Anup. M " <dalh_1 >

wrote:

> Dear All,

>

> Here is a chart of a female

> who was engaged on 20th july2007

> and her engagement was broken after two weaks.

> She didnt submit any deatil except this.

> While applying KAS,can we find the reason for such

> time?

> The answer lies perhapes while applying KAS.

>

> TOB 13th May1984

> DOB 23.41PM

> Lat 13N05 Longi 80E18 IST

>

> One zero in 5th house by Moon.

> Delay by Saturn.

> When she can marry?

>

> Regards

> Anup

>

 

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Respected Professor,

 

What is the impact of close aspect of 6th lord on 9th lord.

Is it Religious discords/intolerance?

 

Also what results do we expect of a strong planet which is closely aspected by

Ra or Ke but not more than 60%.

 

Thank You

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Hello rainysky,

 

I add my replies to your Qs in your appended msg.

 

 

 

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Monday, December 07, 2009 11:13 AM

[systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] 6th lord

 

 

 

Respected Professor,

 

What is the impact of close aspect of 6th lord on 9th lord.

Is it Religious discords/intolerance?

YES, BESIDES CAUSING CONFLICTS WITH PARENTS AND DAMAGE TO THE GENERAL

SIGNIFICATIONS OF THE NINTH LORD.

Also what results do we expect of a strong planet which is closely aspected by

Ra or Ke but not more than 60%.

PROBLEMS TO BOTH GENERAL SIGNIFICATIONS AND THE SIGNIFICATIONS OF THE

MOOLTRIKONA SIGN HOUSE OF THE AFFECTED PLANET.

Thank You

 

 

 

 

 

 

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