Guest guest Posted April 6, 2009 Report Share Posted April 6, 2009 Dear Sharat ji, According to the traditional Vedic astrology the 8th house signifies the debts. Therefore an afflicted 8th house and its lord or the malefics placed in the 8th house will indicate the debts. It is quite possible that the debts might be accumulated during the dasha/antardasha of the planets influencing the 8th house. The ability to pay the debts back will have to be judged from the 5th house. If the 5th house and its lord is strong in Rupbal, is occupied by benefics and is not afflicted then there is every possibility that the debts will be paid back in time and without any misery. Apart from the 5th house, the 2nd house is also important because it signifies the accumulated ‘dhan’ or the ability to save. Unless there is an ability to save no debt can be paid back. After all the debt has to be paid back through the savings, the money is not going to fall from the sky. Jupiter and the Venus will be especially helpful in getting the debts paid off. Therefore these two planets and their strength in rupbal should also be examined. God bless you Bhooshan Priya , sharat pandit <sharatpandit wrote: > > Dear Vipin ji > > after the collapse of credit based economies like USA, the malaise is > spreading to countries like India. the younger generation invariably is > spending more and more on credit and getting into the vicious circle of loan > repayment, default on payments and mounting debts. You find quite a few > youngsters with huge housing loans and other personal loans who are facing a > lot of problems in the recession times. > > what does Lal Kitab say about loans and problems related to non payment and > remedies. we can take casestudies on this topic later. > > Regards > > Sharat > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Respected Pt.Bhooshanpriya ji, I accept that the 2nd, 5th and 8th play its role in debt. But according to my knowledge house 6th is house of debt and play role in debt also. Regards--- On Mon, 4/6/09, < wrote: <LK discussion group Re: debts Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:00 PM Dear Sharat ji,According to the traditional Vedic astrology the 8th house signifies the debts. Therefore an afflicted 8th house and its lord or the malefics placed in the 8th house will indicate the debts. It is quite possible that the debts might be accumulated during the dasha/antardasha of the planets influencing the 8th house.The ability to pay the debts back will have to be judged from the 5th house. If the 5th house and its lord is strong in Rupbal, is occupied by benefics and is not afflicted then there is every possibility that the debts will be paid back in time and without any misery.Apart from the 5th house, the 2nd house is also important because it signifies the accumulated ‘dhan’ or the ability to save. Unless there is an ability to save no debt can be paid back. After all the debt has to be paid back through the savings, the money is not going to fall from the sky.Jupiter and the Venus will be especially helpful in getting the debts paid off. Therefore these two planets and their strength in rupbal should also be examined.God bless youBhooshan Priya , sharat pandit <sharatpandit@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Vipin ji> > after the collapse of credit based economies like USA, the malaise is> spreading to countries like India. the younger generation invariably is> spending more and more on credit and getting into the vicious circle of loan> repayment, default on payments and mounting debts. You find quite a few> youngsters with huge housing loans and other personal loans who are facing a> lot of problems in the recession times.> > what does Lal Kitab say about loans and problems related to non payment and> remedies. we can take casestudies on this topic later.> > Regards> > Sharat> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Respected Priya ji � I think that one has to analyse the 6th house for debts as per the vedic astrology. As far as eighth house is concerned, legacies, inheritance, sudden financial gains, wills are the positive side of this house while the negative side is long illnesses, cause of death, sexual and conjugal life. � However my question was whether Lal Kitab has anything on the subject. � warm regards � Sharat On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:00 PM, < wrote: Dear Sharat ji,According to the traditional Vedic astrology the 8th house signifies the debts. Therefore an afflicted 8th house and its lord or the malefics placed in the 8th house will indicate the debts. It is quite possible that the debts might be accumulated during the dasha/antardasha of the planets influencing the 8th house. The ability to pay the debts back will have to be judged from the 5th house. If the 5th house and its lord is strong in Rupbal, is occupied by benefics and is not afflicted then there is every possibility that the debts will be paid back in time and without any misery. Apart from the 5th house, the 2nd house is also important because it signifies the accumulated ‘dhan’ or the ability to save. Unless there is an ability to save no debt can be paid back. After all the debt has to be paid back through the savings, the money is not going to fall from the sky. Jupiter and the Venus will be especially helpful in getting the debts paid off. Therefore these two planets and their strength in rupbal should also be examined.God bless youBhooshan Priya , sharat pandit <sharatpandit wrote: >> Dear Vipin ji> > after the collapse of credit based economies like USA, the malaise is> spreading to countries like India. the younger generation invariably is> spending more and more on credit and getting into the vicious circle of loan > repayment, default on payments and mounting debts. You find quite a few> youngsters with huge housing loans and other personal loans who are facing a> lot of problems in the recession times.> > what does Lal Kitab say about loans and problems related to non payment and> remedies. we can take casestudies on this topic later.> > Regards> > Sharat> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Dear Kursija ji and Sharat ji, I believe that the 6th house is related to ‘sahukaara’ or lending money. “Khana # 6 aam bartav mutallika duniya va khud : sahukaara kundali ke khana # 6 se dekha jayega†[ 1952 urdu ed ; page 1102 ] “mitra ketu budh 6 ve baithe, mard madad khud pata ho shukra papi ki halat teve, vasool daulat jar hota ho†[ 1952 urdu ed ; page 1101 ] If in the 6th house the planets are friendly to mercury and Ketu; and depending on the nature of venus and papi planets, he gets natural help in recovering [ vasool ] the money and property. You are welcome to have your opinion. I do not intend to impose my views on you. There are no indications in the Lal Kitab about taking money on loan and thus getting into debt. Like most scriptures it also talks in terms of dhan laabh or dhan haani; poor or rich etc. God bless you Bhooshan Priya , sharat pandit <sharatpandit wrote:>> Respected Priya ji> > I think that one has to analyse the 6th house for debts as per the vedic> astrology. As far as eighth house is concerned, legacies, inheritance,> sudden financial gains, wills are the positive side of this house while the> negative side is long illnesses, cause of death, sexual and conjugal life.> > However my question was whether Lal Kitab has anything on the subject.> > warm regards> > Sharat> > > On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:00 PM, <> wrote:> > Dear Sharat ji,> > According to the traditional Vedic astrology the 8th house signifies the> debts. Therefore an afflicted 8th house and its lord or the malefics placed> in the 8th house will indicate the debts. It is quite possible that the> debts might be accumulated during the dasha/antardasha of the planets> influencing the 8th house.> > The ability to pay the debts back will have to be judged from the 5th house.> If the 5th house and its lord is strong in Rupbal, is occupied by benefics> and is not afflicted then there is every possibility that the debts will be> paid back in time and without any misery.> > Apart from the 5th house, the 2nd house is also important because it> signifies the accumulated ‘dhan’ or the ability to save. Unless there is> an ability to save no debt can be paid back. After all the debt has to be> paid back through the savings, the money is not going to fall from the sky.> > Jupiter and the Venus will be especially helpful in getting the debts paid> off. Therefore these two planets and their strength in rupbal should also be> examined.> > God bless you> > Bhooshan Priya> > <%40>,> sharat pandit sharatpandit@ wrote:> >> > Dear Vipin ji> >> > after the collapse of credit based economies like USA, the malaise is> > spreading to countries like India. the younger generation invariably is> > spending more and more on credit and getting into the vicious circle of> loan> > repayment, default on payments and mounting debts. You find quite a few> > youngsters with huge housing loans and other personal loans who are facing> a> > lot of problems in the recession times.> >> > what does Lal Kitab say about loans and problems related to non payment> and> > remedies. we can take casestudies on this topic later.> >> > Regards> >> > Sharat> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Dear Kursija and other Friends, Houses 2,5,8 and 11 are called Panphar houses , means these are connected with finances, 2nd house - is all kinds self earned and accumulated wealth 5th house - is income earned by partner(s) 8th house- is hidden wealth or wealth of partner, unearned income (like inheritance, insurance claims , speculation etc), Unplanned and forced loans -like expenses to meet sudden hospitalisation , losses in business , loans to meet unplanned business expenses etc. 11th house - Self earned income 6th house - raising loan and finances to meet planned expenditure Regards, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA S.C. Kursija <sckursija Sent: Tuesday, 7 April, 2009 10:47:16 AMLK discussion group Re: debts Respected Pt.Bhooshanpriya ji, I accept that the 2nd, 5th and 8th play its role in debt. But according to my knowledge house 6th is house of debt and play role in debt also. Regards--- On Mon, 4/6/09, <@ .co. in> wrote: <@ .co. in>LK discussion group Re: debts Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:00 PM Dear Sharat ji,According to the traditional Vedic astrology the 8th house signifies the debts. Therefore an afflicted 8th house and its lord or the malefics placed in the 8th house will indicate the debts. It is quite possible that the debts might be accumulated during the dasha/antardasha of the planets influencing the 8th house.The ability to pay the debts back will have to be judged from the 5th house. If the 5th house and its lord is strong in Rupbal, is occupied by benefics and is not afflicted then there is every possibility that the debts will be paid back in time and without any misery.Apart from the 5th house, the 2nd house is also important because it signifies the accumulated ‘dhan’ or the ability to save. Unless there is an ability to save no debt can be paid back. After all the debt has to be paid back through the savings, the money is not going to fall from the sky.Jupiter and the Venus will be especially helpful in getting the debts paid off. Therefore these two planets and their strength in rupbal should also be examined.God bless youBhooshan Priya , sharat pandit <sharatpandit@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Vipin ji> > after the collapse of credit based economies like USA, the malaise is> spreading to countries like India. the younger generation invariably is> spending more and more on credit and getting into the vicious circle of loan> repayment, default on payments and mounting debts. You find quite a few> youngsters with huge housing loans and other personal loans who are facing a> lot of problems in the recession times.> > what does Lal Kitab say about loans and problems related to non payment and> remedies. we can take casestudies on this topic later.> > Regards> > Sharat> Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2009 Report Share Posted April 7, 2009 Respected Goel Saheb, Many thanks for explaining the panphar houses and their role in financial matters. Sir, you have very clearly defined the distinction between planned loan and the unplanned loan. With respect and regards, Varun Trivedi , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Kursija and other Friends, > > Houses 2,5,8 and 11 are called Panphar houses , means these are connected > with finances, > 2nd house - is all kinds self earned and accumulated wealth > 5th house - is income earned by partner(s) > 8th house- is hidden wealth or wealth of partner, unearned income (like inheritance, >                 insurance claims , speculation etc), Unplanned and forced loans -like expenses to meet >                 sudden hospitalisation , losses in business , loans to meet unplanned business expenses etc. > 11th house - Self earned income > 6th house - raising loan and finances to meet planned expenditure > > Regards, > > >  G.K.GOEL > Ph: 09350311433 > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR > NEW DELHI-110 076 > INDIA > > > > > ________________________________ > S.C. Kursija <sckursija > > Tuesday, 7 April, 2009 10:47:16 AM > LK discussion group Re: debts > > > Respected Pt.Bhooshanpriya ji, > I accept that the 2nd, 5th and 8th play its role in debt. But according to my knowledge house 6th is house of debt and play role in debt also. > Regards > > --- On Mon, 4/6/09, <@ .co. in> wrote: > > > <@ .co. in> > LK discussion group Re: debts > > Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:00 PM > > > Dear Sharat ji, > > According to the traditional Vedic astrology the 8th house signifies the debts. Therefore an afflicted 8th house and its lord or the malefics placed in the 8th house will indicate the debts. It is quite possible that the debts might be accumulated during the dasha/antardasha of the planets influencing the 8th house. > > The ability to pay the debts back will have to be judged from the 5th house. If the 5th house and its lord is strong in Rupbal, is occupied by benefics and is not afflicted then there is every possibility that the debts will be paid back in time and without any misery. > > Apart from the 5th house, the 2nd house is also important because it signifies the accumulated ‘dhan’ or the ability to save. Unless there is an ability to save no debt can be paid back. After all the debt has to be paid back through the savings, the money is not going to fall from the sky. > > Jupiter and the Venus will be especially helpful in getting the debts paid off. Therefore these two planets and their strength in rupbal should also be examined. > > God bless you > > Bhooshan Priya > > , sharat pandit <sharatpandit@ ....> wrote: > > > > Dear Vipin ji > > > > after the collapse of credit based economies like USA, the malaise is > > spreading to countries like India. the younger generation invariably is > > spending more and more on credit and getting into the vicious circle of loan > > repayment, default on payments and mounting debts. You find quite a few > > youngsters with huge housing loans and other personal loans who are facing a > > lot of problems in the recession times. > > > > what does Lal Kitab say about loans and problems related to non payment and > > remedies. we can take casestudies on this topic later. > > > > Regards > > > > Sharat > > Add more friends to your messenger and enjoy! Go to http://messenger./invite/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Dear Professor, I wish you merry christmas and happy new year, Also, How can this person fix his imbalance of huge debts and fears since 2005 as per astrology ? Please look into this horoscope and shed your expertise, Male : OCT 09 1978, TIME: 1830 LOCATION 18'18,, 83'54 Thanks for your time, Bhaskar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 Hello Bhaskar, The weak sixth lord generates debts. In this case the managing capability is given by the Jupiter, Mars, Venus and the Moon. - bhaskar routhu SystemsApproachToVedic Astrology Thursday, December 24, 2009 9:45 AM [systemsApproachToVedic Astrology] Debts Dear Professor, I wish you merry christmas and happy new year, Also, How can this person fix his imbalance of huge debts and fears since 2005 as per astrology ? Please look into this horoscope and shed your expertise, Male : OCT 09 1978, TIME: 1830 LOCATION 18'18,, 83'54 Thanks for your time, Bhaskar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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