Remedial Measures-1

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Discussions on remedies are hot, so i am marking this post Remedial

Measures-1 . These refer to my real life remedies.

People are confused on the topic of free will, destiny , Karma etc.

Before discussing Remedies , one must be clear about these concepts.

For the students of Astrology of under graduate level , and having no

thoughts on spiritual sciences , the word Destiny holds value , but for the

higher level , there is no destiny at all. It is only another name given to

the Work Done by an individual.

The Astrology only explain the times when this work done comes in front of

one in his life time.

Now what is Work Done, A work is caused by the interactivity of the five

elements Earth, Water, Fire, Air and Akash.

Like Air flow due to Fire . Earth is moving into sky due to other elements

and forces acting on it. Our involvement in these elements and our direction

towards these elements give birth to proud of being these things , this

involvement cause us to remain in these , our involvement and desire to

shape and enjoy through these elements is Work Done by us.This is called

Prakarity in Gita, having three modes of qualities , namely Tamsik , Rajsik

and Satwik.

As per our involvement in to these, as per our determinations, our desires

to be those , we all have different levels with in our Jiva , which we

collected previously , we are in a body of male or female, we are Indian or

American or German , we are tree or animal or grass. To which this " we " is

referring are bodies , as Astrology is Apra Vidiya , it speaks about body

and elements.

 

We don't have any thing in our hand to change the Work Done Or called

destiny by some.

It will come to us at appropriate time as is revealed by astrologers to

some.

When some astrologers says that Destiny Can not be changed , they are

correct . Krishnamurty also said in the same tune that it can not be

changed. Thanks God Arjuna did not consult KrishnaMurty , he was having the

guidance of a Yogi like Krishna who gives directions to fight with his

destiny. The Mahabharta was inevitable , say it was work done by the masses

and Kings of that time. But the Tapsiya to obtain Parshuram Astra from Lord

Shiva. To move to Swrag Loka to learn Gandhav Arts.

So the Work Done when will come to you will follow the natural flow of five

elements in the universe or the macro intelligence interactive to your

concerned micro-intelligence. But you are free to control with the control

of senses and intelligence to win over such situation removing your

difficulties and greasing yourself , this comes into free will .

For the persons who are deeply involved into the elements , there exists no

free will , but for the persons who had control over there mind and bends

its direction from the world to inside there is amply free will .

So both the statements are true , that there is no free will and there is

free will.

In the same way it is also true that Destiny can not be changed , but it is

only half statement.

To be continued

With Best wishes,

Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1

Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360

hanskpvedic

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Dear Inderjit,

You seem to be getting mixed up a bit ?

The Mahabharata is actually, based upon

the KARMA PHILOSOPHY...

I guess the power of " free will " is a

highly exaggerated " sales pitch " ...as most people,well

experienced in life, will tell you...

During my working days(I've now

retired),

I used to meet a lot of Surgeons and some of

them,perhaps,among the best in India...They used to

work in Govt., or Municipal Hospitals and as was their

wont,they used to operate upon upon a case even if

they felt that the patient's chances of surviving the

operation was extremely small ...and most of them use

to,and still maintain that,in their experience,

many-a-time, after an operation they used to feel very

happy at the " successful " operation...but

unfortunately the patient used to die within a day or

two,while in an equally large number of cases they've

also given up a patient for " lost " ,after a particular

operation, but such patients surprisingly lived long

after... !

This had made most of them turn for

explanations from spiritual Gurus or some such

enlightened souls...and NOW,firmly believe in the

Karma

philosophy,and DESTINY...simply for want of " a

scientific explanation... " ! !

Many similar experiences can be quoted

from different spheres of human life...

I do not know how old you are,but I am

very sure that,if you are young,and most young people

" speak in a similar language " ,but, ONLY experience can

lead them,ultimately, to believe in destiny,as one

finds himself so " abjectly powerless " ,and " so woefully

powerless " to be able to influence even the smallest

things in life...that they begin to believe in

DESTINY...! ! !

Wishing you the very best,I remain,

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !

 

Discussions on remedies are hot, so i am marking this

post Remedial

Measures-1 . These refer to my real life remedies.

People are confused on the topic of free will, destiny

, Karma etc.

Before discussing Remedies , one must be clear about

these concepts.

For the students of Astrology of under graduate level

, and having no

thoughts on spiritual sciences , the word Destiny

holds value , but for the

higher level , there is no destiny at all. It is only

another name given to

the Work Done by an individual.

The Astrology only explain the times when this work

done comes in front of

one in his life time.

Now what is Work Done, A work is caused by the

interactivity of the five

elements Earth, Water, Fire, Air and Akash.

Like Air flow due to Fire . Earth is moving into sky

due to other elements

and forces acting on it. Our involvement in these

elements and our direction

towards these elements give birth to proud of being

these things , this

involvement cause us to remain in these , our

involvement and desire to

shape and enjoy through these elements is Work Done by

us.This is called

Prakarity in Gita, having three modes of qualities ,

namely Tamsik , Rajsik

and Satwik.

As per our involvement in to these, as per our

determinations, our desires

to be those , we all have different levels with in

our Jiva , which we

collected previously , we are in a body of male or

female, we are Indian or

American or German , we are tree or animal or grass.

To which this " we " is

referring are bodies , as Astrology is Apra Vidiya ,

it speaks about body

and elements.

 

We don't have any thing in our hand to change the Work

Done Or called

destiny by some.

It will come to us at appropriate time as is revealed

by astrologers to

some.

When some astrologers says that Destiny Can not be

changed , they are

correct . Krishnamurty also said in the same tune that

it can not be

changed. Thanks God Arjuna did not consult

KrishnaMurty , he was having the

guidance of a Yogi like Krishna who gives directions

to fight with his

destiny. The Mahabharta was inevitable , say it was

work done by the masses

and Kings of that time. But the Tapsiya to obtain

Parshuram Astra from Lord

Shiva. To move to Swrag Loka to learn Gandhav Arts.

So the Work Done when will come to you will follow

the natural flow of five

elements in the universe or the macro intelligence

interactive to your

concerned micro-intelligence. But you are free to

control with the control

of senses and intelligence to win over such situation

removing your

difficulties and greasing yourself , this comes into

free will .

For the persons who are deeply involved into the

elements , there exists no

free will , but for the persons who had control over

there mind and bends

its direction from the world to inside there is amply

free will .

So both the statements are true , that there is no

free will and there is

free will.

In the same way it is also true that Destiny can not

be changed , but it is

only half statement.

To be continued

With Best wishes,

Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1

Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360

hanskpvedic

 

 

 

 

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Dear Mr. Lyrastro,

< You seem to be getting mixed up a bit ?

> The Mahabharata is actually, based upon

> the KARMA PHILOSOPHY>

No I am not ,i am talking about the same Karma Philosophy. You will learn

with time or in next postings.

<During my working days(I've now

> retired),>

You mean your physical age is above 58 , this is considered as the

retirement age.

 

< I do not know how old you are,but I am

> very sure that,if you are young,and most young people

> " speak in a similar language " ,but, ONLY experience can

> lead them,ultimately, to believe in destiny,as one

> finds himself so " abjectly powerless " ,and " so woefully

> powerless " to be able to influence even the smallest

> things in life...that they begin to believe in

> DESTINY...! ! !>

I am 46 + and in the field of Astrology from last 33 years, that too from

the land of astrologers, having family relations with World Famous Bhrighu

Shastrie's. I am practicing astrology since my childhood but

was open to public only from 1991 for professional consultations.In your way

of understanding I am practicing so called KP Astrology since 1982.

If you call this less experience ? By the way the physical experiences has

nothing to do with inner and spiritual experiences. The most learned and

advanced left their bodies before 42.

Read again what I said about Destiny , it is the same as you are thinking

and describing, but is also beyond your thinking.Simply delete my post if

you can not follow my message. Because it is basically to put the persons on

fight and for Karma Yoga than to sit on the basis of their Destiny.

Your examples of Medical sconces shows the Karma of Medical persons only ,

the patient are almost nil in wishes and not in the shape to perform any

karma. So your quoted example has no relevance here.

With Best Wishes,

Inder Jit Sahni, House No.1351-HIG, Model Town Phase-1

Bhatinda-151001 phone 0164-2211360

hanskpvedic