Which is the best software program for KP - KPBC1 & A TEST-

November 8, 2004

Dear All,

For your attention and review a comparison of different software

results are given as follows:

Example 1: KPBC1, Male, 3 November 1911, Fr, 11:48 AM UT + 00.00,

Ipswich, England, 52N04, 001E10

1(a). Comparison of Asc position by using the same New KPA 22D-32m-

10s as given by Raichur Software posted in KP Group.

SN D-M-S RL-SL-S Software

1. 253-25-31 Ju-Ve-Ve Raichurs

2. 253-08-59 Ju-Ke-Ke Solar Fire

3. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astro-Kundli

4. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astrodienst

5. 253-08-48 Ju-Ke-Ke Astraura

6. 253-08-11 Ju-Ke-Ke Old One

7. 253-08-36 Ju-Ke-Ke JHL

8. 253-07-50 Ju-Ke-Ke Junior Jyotish

Basic Data

Sr Software Sid Time Asc D-M-S KPA

1.Raichur 14-39-10 253-25-31 22-32-10

2.Solar Fire 14-34-29? 153-09-21 22-31-48

3.Astro-Kundli 253-09-10 22-31-44

4.Astrodienst 14-39-09 275-40-45 22-37-32*

5.Astraura 14-39-09 253-09-35.48 22-31-23

6.Old One 14-39-09 253-09-21 22-31

7.JHL 14-39-09 253-09-26.04 22-31-19.29

8.Jr Jyotish 253-03 22-37*

* Lahiri Ayanamsa

Differences from New KPA: 1) 0 (base), 2) –22s, 3) –26s, 4) +5m.22s,

5) –47s, 6) –1.10, 7) –50.31s, 8) +4m.50s

Explanations:

1. Pl note 253-22-49 (Ju-Ve-Ve) in posting of KP Group Msg # 1410 due

to Lat 52N06 other than 52N04.

2. Western Tropical, very close to Goravani Jyotish & Parashara

Light, as per kind favor of Ron Ganut in KP Group Msg # 1420

3. KP & Vedic,

4. Western tropical, also available sideral with Lahiri Ayanamsa

5. KP & Vedic,

6. based on KPA from KSK's tables & UTOH

7. Jagannatha Hora Lite (Pandit Sanjay Rath's Study Group)

8. Prof V. K. Choudhry'a SA Study Group (Vedic for 1700-2300 only)

ATTENTION:

1. SN 1 Software gives around 17d higher Asc with different Star

Lord & Sub Lord. (For other cusps more or less the same, ie same SL &

SL)

2. For other softwares no difference in deg-min, SL & S, except

around 30sec lower in SN 6 Software.

3. House system is not the problem, because Asc is the same

whether Placidus, Koch or Equal is used. Something is wrong somewhere.

1 (b). Comparison of Moon position by using the same New KPA 22-32-10

Sr Deg-Min-Sec Software

1. 336-20-09 Raichurs

2. 336-20-34 Solar Fire

3. 336-20-21 Astro-Kundli

4. 336-20-12 Astrodienst

5 336-20-12 Astraura

6 336-21-20 Old One

7 336-20-14 JHL

8 336-19-50 Junior Jyotish

Not much difference except in SN 6 & 8. (For other planets more or

less the same)

Example 2. Leonardo da Vinci, 23 April 1452, 9-40 PM LMT, UT-0.44,

Vinci, Italy, 43N47, 10E55

For comparison the same KPA 16d-07m-15s is used.

SN Asc D-M-S Moon D-M-S Software

1. 227-30-40 078-01-54 Raichur

2. 230-27-45 316-53-45 AstroDatabank

3. 230-31-23 316-53-51 Astrodienst

4. 230-30-53 078-04-18 Astraura

5. 238-26-01 092-20-55 Old One

6. 230-27-26 316-54-03 JHL

7. 230-32-27 316-54-10 Khaldea

ATTENTION: SN 1, 4 & 5 sofware have gone out of line. Solar Fire

will be very useful.

Basic Data

SN Software Sid Time KPA

1. Raichur 11-31-41 16-07-46

2. Astrodienst 11-47-47 16-12-57*

3. Astraura 11-47-44 16-07-19

4. Old One 12-27-04 16-09-00

5. JHL 11-47-27 16-07-14.65

* Lahiri Ayanamsa

Good Luck!

tw

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

wrote:

> Dear Members,

> I have with me Mr.K.Subramaniam's K.P.

> Software,but after I bought and began using the

> Software developed by Shri A.R.Raichur(upto subsub

> levels),I have found it most useful and

> simple-to-use,and Shri Raichur also provides a

> specially developed on K.P. Dasavidha Poruthams

> principles,a software for horoscope matching...which

> in my humble opinion is prhaps the best Software for

> K.P., developed so far...

> I therefore would strongly recommend

> Shri Raichur's Software...for K.P. followers...his

> e-mai ID has appeared in these columns already...

> With best wishes,I am,

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> Vaidun ji,

>

> Have a look at " Varahamihira for Windows " and " Mobile

> Kundli for

> PalmOS " by the company running this group. Both are

> designed KP

> astrologers in mind. The details are available at

> http://www.astrocamp.com.

>

> Regards,

>

> Punit Pandey

>

> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:40:15 +1000, Vaidun Vidyadhar

> <vvidya@o...> wrote:

> > Dear List Members,

> >

> > I am new to this list though I was introduced to KP

> in 1988 when I was

> > living in Madras. My introduction to vedic

> astrology was with KP. I had

> > bought all the books of Shri Krishnamurthi then and

> was very impressed with

> > his astrological skills. There are few who can

> match the phenomenal

> > accuracy of his predictions. Those days, I had to

> MANUALLY cast each chart,

> > be it natal or horary, with the help of tables and

> the ephemeris. It used

> > to take 2 hours of manual calculations to be able to

> finally arrive at the

> > table of significators. Now, with computers, the

> same job can be done in

> > seconds. Amazing.

> >

> > I have Goravani Jyotish which has some element of KP

> in it but maybe not

> > enough. I am thinking of buying some other

> astrology program which

> > incorporates the elements of KP more fully. Can I

> request members to kindly

> > advise me as to which would be the best program for

> this. I will be much

> > obliged.

> >

> > I have always had an enduring interest in KP but was

> unable to find a

> > website or list which was fully devoted to KP, until

> now. I hope to be able

> > to learn a lot from you all and hone my KP skills.

> >

> > Thanks for your time. With best regards.

> >

> > Vaidun Vidyadhar

> > 1 / 94 Marius Street

> > Tamworth, NSW 2340

> > Australia

> > Tel: 61-2-67 668428 (home)

> > Mobile: 0414 870 083

> > Email: vvidya@o...

> >

November 8, 2004

Dear tw853,

With K.P. NEW ayanamsa the ascendant sub-sub is VENUS...while with all others the asc sub-sub is Kethu...

Does that make any significant difference or not...should be examined to decide upon the correctness of the ayanamsa...?

I generally follow New K.P. ayanamsa,frankly,blindly,simply because,not only am I convinced,but, I have implicit faith in both, M.G.G.Nair,and Professor Balachandran,who has explained briefly,but convincingly how he has derived these new Ayanamsa values,in K.P. & Astrology,Magazine,2003,Annual,pp. 66-93,and reproduced in these columns by Shri Kanak Bosmiaji...

Yours sincerely,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !tw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear All,For your attention and review a comparison of different software results are given as follows:Example 1: KPBC1, Male, 3 November 1911, Fr, 11:48 AM UT + 00.00, Ipswich, England, 52N04, 001E101(a). Comparison of Asc position by using the same New KPA 22D-32m-10s as given by Raichur Software posted in KP Group.SN D-M-S RL-SL-S Software1. 253-25-31 Ju-Ve-Ve Raichurs2. 253-08-59

Ju-Ke-Ke Solar Fire3. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astro-Kundli4. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astrodienst5. 253-08-48 Ju-Ke-Ke Astraura6. 253-08-11 Ju-Ke-Ke Old One7. 253-08-36 Ju-Ke-Ke

JHL8. 253-07-50 Ju-Ke-Ke Junior JyotishBasic DataSr Software Sid Time Asc D-M-S KPA1.Raichur 14-39-10 253-25-31 22-32-102.Solar Fire 14-34-29? 153-09-21 22-31-483.Astro-Kundli 253-09-10 22-31-444.Astrodienst 14-39-09 275-40-45

22-37-32*5.Astraura 14-39-09 253-09-35.48 22-31-23 6.Old One 14-39-09 253-09-21 22-317.JHL 14-39-09 253-09-26.04 22-31-19.298.Jr Jyotish 253-03 22-37* * Lahiri AyanamsaDifferences from New KPA: 1) 0 (base), 2) –22s, 3) –26s, 4) +5m.22s, 5) –47s, 6) –1.10, 7) –50.31s, 8) +4m.50s Explanations:1. Pl note 253-22-49 (Ju-Ve-Ve) in posting of KP Group Msg # 1410 due to Lat 52N06 other than 52N04.2. Western

Tropical, very close to Goravani Jyotish & Parashara Light, as per kind favor of Ron Ganut in KP Group Msg # 14203. KP & Vedic, 4. Western tropical, also available sideral with Lahiri Ayanamsa 5. KP & Vedic, 6. based on KPA from KSK's tables & UTOH7. Jagannatha Hora Lite (Pandit Sanjay Rath's Study Group)8. Prof V. K. Choudhry'a SA Study Group (Vedic for 1700-2300 only)ATTENTION:1. SN 1 Software gives around 17d higher Asc with different Star Lord & Sub Lord. (For other cusps more or less the same, ie same SL & SL)2. For other softwares no difference in deg-min, SL & S, except around 30sec lower in SN 6 Software.3. House system is not the problem, because Asc is the same whether Placidus, Koch or Equal is used. Something is wrong somewhere.1 (b). Comparison of Moon

position by using the same New KPA 22-32-10Sr Deg-Min-Sec Software1. 336-20-09 Raichurs2. 336-20-34 Solar Fire3. 336-20-21 Astro-Kundli4. 336-20-12 Astrodienst5 336-20-12 Astraura6 336-21-20 Old One7 336-20-14

JHL8 336-19-50 Junior JyotishNot much difference except in SN 6 & 8. (For other planets more or less the same)Example 2. Leonardo da Vinci, 23 April 1452, 9-40 PM LMT, UT-0.44, Vinci, Italy, 43N47, 10E55For comparison the same KPA 16d-07m-15s is used.SN Asc D-M-S Moon D-M-S Software1. 227-30-40 078-01-54 Raichur2. 230-27-45 316-53-45 AstroDatabank3.

230-31-23 316-53-51 Astrodienst4. 230-30-53 078-04-18 Astraura5. 238-26-01 092-20-55 Old One6. 230-27-26 316-54-03 JHL7. 230-32-27 316-54-10 KhaldeaATTENTION: SN 1, 4 & 5 sofware have gone out of line. Solar Fire will be very

useful.Basic DataSN Software Sid Time KPA 1. Raichur 11-31-41 16-07-46 2. Astrodienst 11-47-47 16-12-57* 3. Astraura 11-47-44 16-07-19 4. Old One 12-27-04

16-09-00 5. JHL 11-47-27 16-07-14.65 * Lahiri AyanamsaGood Luck!tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> wrote:> Dear Members,> I have with me Mr.K.Subramaniam's K.P.> Software,but after I bought and began using the> Software developed by Shri A.R.Raichur(upto subsub> levels),I have found it most useful and> simple-to-use,and Shri Raichur also provides a> specially developed on K.P. Dasavidha Poruthams> principles,a software for horoscope matching...which> in my humble opinion is prhaps the best Software for> K.P., developed so

far...> I therefore would strongly recommend> Shri Raichur's Software...for K.P. followers...his> e-mai ID has appeared in these columns already...> With best wishes,I am,> Yours sincerely,> lyrastro1> GOOD LUCK !> > > Vaidun ji,> > Have a look at "Varahamihira for Windows" and "Mobile> Kundli for> PalmOS" by the company running this group. Both are> designed KP> astrologers in mind. The details are

available at> http://www.astrocamp.com.> > Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > > On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:40:15 +1000, Vaidun Vidyadhar> <vvidya@o...> wrote:> > Dear List Members,> > > > I am new to this list though I was introduced to KP> in 1988 when I was> > living in Madras. My introduction to vedic> astrology was with KP. I had> > bought all the books of Shri Krishnamurthi then and> was very impressed with> > his astrological skills. There are few who can> match the phenomenal> > accuracy of his predictions. Those days, I had to> MANUALLY cast each chart,> > be it natal or horary, with the help of tables and> the ephemeris. It used> > to take 2 hours of manual calculations to be able to> finally arrive at

the> > table of significators. Now, with computers, the> same job can be done in> > seconds. Amazing. > > > > I have Goravani Jyotish which has some element of KP> in it but maybe not> > enough. I am thinking of buying some other> astrology program which> > incorporates the elements of KP more fully. Can I> request members to kindly> > advise me as to which would be the best program for> this. I will be much> > obliged.> > > > I have always had an enduring interest in KP but was> unable to find a> > website or list which was fully devoted to KP, until> now. I hope to be able> > to learn a lot from you all and hone my KP skills. > > > > Thanks for your time. With best regards.> > > > Vaidun Vidyadhar> > 1 / 94

Marius Street> > Tamworth, NSW 2340> > Australia> > Tel: 61-2-67 668428 (home)> > Mobile: 0414 870 083> > Email: vvidya@o...> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

November 8, 2004

tw ji,

Thanks for taking the pain for the comparison. It is a welcome efforts

and hope we will see more such efforts in future. I would like to add

Varahamihira and publish it on my blog at

http://www.astrocamp.com/Vedic Astrology/

Regards,

Punit Pandey

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 05:48:10 -0000, tw853 <tw853 wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> For your attention and review a comparison of different software

> results are given as follows:

>

> Example 1: KPBC1, Male, 3 November 1911, Fr, 11:48 AM UT + 00.00,

> Ipswich, England, 52N04, 001E10

>

> 1(a). Comparison of Asc position by using the same New KPA 22D-32m-

> 10s as given by Raichur Software posted in KP Group.

>

> SN D-M-S RL-SL-S Software

> 1. 253-25-31 Ju-Ve-Ve Raichurs

> 2. 253-08-59 Ju-Ke-Ke Solar Fire

> 3. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astro-Kundli

> 4. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astrodienst

> 5. 253-08-48 Ju-Ke-Ke Astraura

> 6. 253-08-11 Ju-Ke-Ke Old One

> 7. 253-08-36 Ju-Ke-Ke JHL

> 8. 253-07-50 Ju-Ke-Ke Junior Jyotish

>

> Basic Data

>

> Sr Software Sid Time Asc D-M-S KPA

> 1.Raichur 14-39-10 253-25-31 22-32-10

> 2.Solar Fire 14-34-29? 153-09-21 22-31-48

> 3.Astro-Kundli 253-09-10 22-31-44

> 4.Astrodienst 14-39-09 275-40-45 22-37-32*

> 5.Astraura 14-39-09 253-09-35.48 22-31-23

> 6.Old One 14-39-09 253-09-21 22-31

> 7.JHL 14-39-09 253-09-26.04 22-31-19.29

> 8.Jr Jyotish 253-03 22-37*

>

> * Lahiri Ayanamsa

>

> Differences from New KPA: 1) 0 (base), 2) â€“22s, 3) â€“26s, 4) +5m.22s,

> 5) â€“47s, 6) â€“1.10, 7) â€“50.31s, 8) +4m.50s

>

> Explanations:

> 1. Pl note 253-22-49 (Ju-Ve-Ve) in posting of KP Group Msg # 1410 due

> to Lat 52N06 other than 52N04.

> 2. Western Tropical, very close to Goravani Jyotish & Parashara

> Light, as per kind favor of Ron Ganut in KP Group Msg # 1420

> 3. KP & Vedic,

> 4. Western tropical, also available sideral with Lahiri Ayanamsa

> 5. KP & Vedic,

> 6. based on KPA from KSK's tables & UTOH

> 7. Jagannatha Hora Lite (Pandit Sanjay Rath's Study Group)

> 8. Prof V. K. Choudhry'a SA Study Group (Vedic for 1700-2300 only)

>

> ATTENTION:

>

> 1. SN 1 Software gives around 17d higher Asc with different Star

> Lord & Sub Lord. (For other cusps more or less the same, ie same SL &

> SL)

>

> 2. For other softwares no difference in deg-min, SL & S, except

> around 30sec lower in SN 6 Software.

>

> 3. House system is not the problem, because Asc is the same

> whether Placidus, Koch or Equal is used. Something is wrong somewhere.

>

> 1 (b). Comparison of Moon position by using the same New KPA 22-32-10

>

> Sr Deg-Min-Sec Software

> 1. 336-20-09 Raichurs

> 2. 336-20-34 Solar Fire

> 3. 336-20-21 Astro-Kundli

> 4. 336-20-12 Astrodienst

> 5 336-20-12 Astraura

> 6 336-21-20 Old One

> 7 336-20-14 JHL

> 8 336-19-50 Junior Jyotish

>

> Not much difference except in SN 6 & 8. (For other planets more or

> less the same)

>

> Example 2. Leonardo da Vinci, 23 April 1452, 9-40 PM LMT, UT-0.44,

> Vinci, Italy, 43N47, 10E55

>

> For comparison the same KPA 16d-07m-15s is used.

>

> SN Asc D-M-S Moon D-M-S Software

> 1. 227-30-40 078-01-54 Raichur

> 2. 230-27-45 316-53-45 AstroDatabank

> 3. 230-31-23 316-53-51 Astrodienst

> 4. 230-30-53 078-04-18 Astraura

> 5. 238-26-01 092-20-55 Old One

> 6. 230-27-26 316-54-03 JHL

> 7. 230-32-27 316-54-10 Khaldea

>

> ATTENTION: SN 1, 4 & 5 sofware have gone out of line. Solar Fire

> will be very useful.

>

> Basic Data

>

> SN Software Sid Time KPA

> 1. Raichur 11-31-41 16-07-46

> 2. Astrodienst 11-47-47 16-12-57*

> 3. Astraura 11-47-44 16-07-19

> 4. Old One 12-27-04 16-09-00

> 5. JHL 11-47-27 16-07-14.65

>

> * Lahiri Ayanamsa

>

> Good Luck!

>

> tw

>

> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

> wrote:

> > Dear Members,

> > I have with me Mr.K.Subramaniam's K.P.

> > Software,but after I bought and began using the

> > Software developed by Shri A.R.Raichur(upto subsub

> > levels),I have found it most useful and

> > simple-to-use,and Shri Raichur also provides a

> > specially developed on K.P. Dasavidha Poruthams

> > principles,a software for horoscope matching...which

> > in my humble opinion is prhaps the best Software for

> > K.P., developed so far...

> > I therefore would strongly recommend

> > Shri Raichur's Software...for K.P. followers...his

> > e-mai ID has appeared in these columns already...

> > With best wishes,I am,

> > Yours sincerely,

> > lyrastro1

> > GOOD LUCK !

> >

> > Vaidun ji,

> >

> > Have a look at " Varahamihira for Windows " and " Mobile

> > Kundli for

> > PalmOS " by the company running this group. Both are

> > designed KP

> > astrologers in mind. The details are available at

> > http://www.astrocamp.com.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> > On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:40:15 +1000, Vaidun Vidyadhar

> > <vvidya@o...> wrote:

> > > Dear List Members,

> > >

> > > I am new to this list though I was introduced to KP

> > in 1988 when I was

> > > living in Madras. My introduction to vedic

> > astrology was with KP. I had

> > > bought all the books of Shri Krishnamurthi then and

> > was very impressed with

> > > his astrological skills. There are few who can

> > match the phenomenal

> > > accuracy of his predictions. Those days, I had to

> > MANUALLY cast each chart,

> > > be it natal or horary, with the help of tables and

> > the ephemeris. It used

> > > to take 2 hours of manual calculations to be able to

> > finally arrive at the

> > > table of significators. Now, with computers, the

> > same job can be done in

> > > seconds. Amazing.

> > >

> > > I have Goravani Jyotish which has some element of KP

> > in it but maybe not

> > > enough. I am thinking of buying some other

> > astrology program which

> > > incorporates the elements of KP more fully. Can I

> > request members to kindly

> > > advise me as to which would be the best program for

> > this. I will be much

> > > obliged.

> > >

> > > I have always had an enduring interest in KP but was

> > unable to find a

> > > website or list which was fully devoted to KP, until

> > now. I hope to be able

> > > to learn a lot from you all and hone my KP skills.

> > >

> > > Thanks for your time. With best regards.

> > >

> > > Vaidun Vidyadhar

> > > 1 / 94 Marius Street

> > > Tamworth, NSW 2340

> > > Australia

> > > Tel: 61-2-67 668428 (home)

> > > Mobile: 0414 870 083

> > > Email: vvidya@o...

> > >

November 8, 2004

Dear tw,

i have calculate value by manualy. givan bellow:

TOB: 11.48.00

00.04.40 Time cerrection

-----------------------------

11.52.40 Local time

1.58 correction

______________-

11.54.38

02.44.32 S.T.(acording to THE AMERICAN EPHEMERIS FOR THE 20TH CENTURY BY: NEIL F.MICHELSEN A.C.S PUBLICATION U.S.A.)

_________________

14.39.10 TCV

and this value match with only Raichur's software.

check this and rerply

regards

kanak bosmia

>"tw853" <tw853 > > > Re: Which is the best software program for KP - KPBC1 & A TEST- >Mon, 08 Nov 2004 05:48:10 -0000 > > >Dear All, > >For your attention and review a comparison of different software >results are given as follows: > > >Example 1: KPBC1, Male, 3 November 1911, Fr, 11:48 AM UT + 00.00, >Ipswich, England, 52N04, 001E10 > >1(a). Comparison of Asc position by using the same New KPA 22D-32m- >10s as given by Raichur Software posted in KP Group. > >SN D-M-S RL-SL-S Software >1. 253-25-31 Ju-Ve-Ve Raichurs >2. 253-08-59 Ju-Ke-Ke Solar Fire >3. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astro-Kundli >4. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astrodienst >5. 253-08-48 Ju-Ke-Ke Astraura >6. 253-08-11 Ju-Ke-Ke Old One >7. 253-08-36 Ju-Ke-Ke JHL >8. 253-07-50 Ju-Ke-Ke Junior Jyotish > >Basic Data > >Sr Software Sid Time Asc D-M-S KPA >1.Raichur 14-39-10 253-25-31 22-32-10 >2.Solar Fire 14-34-29? 153-09-21 22-31-48 >3.Astro-Kundli 253-09-10 22-31-44 >4.Astrodienst 14-39-09 275-40-45 22-37-32* >5.Astraura 14-39-09 253-09-35.48 22-31-23 >6.Old One 14-39-09 253-09-21 22-31 >7.JHL 14-39-09 253-09-26.04 22-31-19.29 >8.Jr Jyotish 253-03 22-37* > >* Lahiri Ayanamsa > >Differences from New KPA: 1) 0 (base), 2) –22s, 3) –26s, 4) +5m.22s, >5) –47s, 6) –1.10, 7) –50.31s, 8) +4m.50s > >Explanations: >1. Pl note 253-22-49 (Ju-Ve-Ve) in posting of KP Group Msg # 1410 due >to Lat 52N06 other than 52N04. >2. Western Tropical, very close to Goravani Jyotish & Parashara >Light, as per kind favor of Ron Ganut in KP Group Msg # 1420 >3. KP & Vedic, >4. Western tropical, also available sideral with Lahiri Ayanamsa >5. KP & Vedic, >6. based on KPA from KSK's tables & UTOH >7. Jagannatha Hora Lite (Pandit Sanjay Rath's Study Group) >8. Prof V. K. Choudhry'a SA Study Group (Vedic for 1700-2300 only) > > >ATTENTION: > >1. SN 1 Software gives around 17d higher Asc with different Star >Lord & Sub Lord. (For other cusps more or less the same, ie same SL & >SL) > >2. For other softwares no difference in deg-min, SL & S, except >around 30sec lower in SN 6 Software. > >3. House system is not the problem, because Asc is the same >whether Placidus, Koch or Equal is used. Something is wrong somewhere. > > >1 (b). Comparison of Moon position by using the same New KPA 22-32-10 > >Sr Deg-Min-Sec Software >1. 336-20-09 Raichurs >2. 336-20-34 Solar Fire >3. 336-20-21 Astro-Kundli >4. 336-20-12 Astrodienst >5 336-20-12 Astraura >6 336-21-20 Old One >7 336-20-14 JHL >8 336-19-50 Junior Jyotish > >Not much difference except in SN 6 & 8. (For other planets more or >less the same) > >Example 2. Leonardo da Vinci, 23 April 1452, 9-40 PM LMT, UT-0.44, >Vinci, Italy, 43N47, 10E55 > >For comparison the same KPA 16d-07m-15s is used. > >SN Asc D-M-S Moon D-M-S Software >1. 227-30-40 078-01-54 Raichur >2. 230-27-45 316-53-45 AstroDatabank >3. 230-31-23 316-53-51 Astrodienst >4. 230-30-53 078-04-18 Astraura >5. 238-26-01 092-20-55 Old One >6. 230-27-26 316-54-03 JHL >7. 230-32-27 316-54-10 Khaldea > >ATTENTION: SN 1, 4 & 5 sofware have gone out of line. Solar Fire >will be very useful. > >Basic Data > >SN Software Sid Time KPA >1. Raichur 11-31-41 16-07-46 >2. Astrodienst 11-47-47 16-12-57* >3. Astraura 11-47-44 16-07-19 >4. Old One 12-27-04 16-09-00 >5. JHL 11-47-27 16-07-14.65 > >* Lahiri Ayanamsa > >Good Luck! > >tw > > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> >wrote: > > Dear Members, > > I have with me Mr.K.Subramaniam's K.P. > > Software,but after I bought and began using the > > Software developed by Shri A.R.Raichur(upto subsub > > levels),I have found it most useful and > > simple-to-use,and Shri Raichur also provides a > > specially developed on K.P. Dasavidha Poruthams > > principles,a software for horoscope matching...which > > in my humble opinion is prhaps the best Software for > > K.P., developed so far... > > I therefore would strongly recommend > > Shri Raichur's Software...for K.P. followers...his > > e-mai ID has appeared in these columns already... > > With best wishes,I am, > > Yours sincerely, > > lyrastro1 > > GOOD LUCK ! > > > > > > Vaidun ji, > > > > Have a look at "Varahamihira for Windows" and "Mobile > > Kundli for > > PalmOS" by the company running this group. Both are > > designed KP > > astrologers in mind. The details are available at > > http://www.astrocamp.com. > > > > Regards, > > > > Punit Pandey > > > > > > > > On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:40:15 +1000, Vaidun Vidyadhar > > <vvidya@o...> wrote: > > > Dear List Members, > > > > > > I am new to this list though I was introduced to KP > > in 1988 when I was > > > living in Madras. My introduction to vedic > > astrology was with KP. I had > > > bought all the books of Shri Krishnamurthi then and > > was very impressed with > > > his astrological skills. There are few who can > > match the phenomenal > > > accuracy of his predictions. Those days, I had to > > MANUALLY cast each chart, > > > be it natal or horary, with the help of tables and > > the ephemeris. It used > > > to take 2 hours of manual calculations to be able to > > finally arrive at the > > > table of significators. Now, with computers, the > > same job can be done in > > > seconds. Amazing. > > > > > > I have Goravani Jyotish which has some element of KP > > in it but maybe not > > > enough. I am thinking of buying some other > > astrology program which > > > incorporates the elements of KP more fully. Can I > > request members to kindly > > > advise me as to which would be the best program for > > this. I will be much > > > obliged. > > > > > > I have always had an enduring interest in KP but was > > unable to find a > > > website or list which was fully devoted to KP, until > > now. I hope to be able > > > to learn a lot from you all and hone my KP skills. > > > > > > Thanks for your time. With best regards. > > > > > > Vaidun Vidyadhar > > > 1 / 94 Marius Street > > > Tamworth, NSW 2340 > > > Australia > > > Tel: 61-2-67 668428 (home) > > > Mobile: 0414 870 083 > > > Email: vvidya@o... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

November 8, 2004

difference in ASC.

There is a simple test. Find out the correct time of SUN Rise at a place. The usual Time is given for the Upper Limb to be at the Horizon. Add 3mt, 30 sec. to this time. This gives the Time when Sun's Centre is on the Horizon.

Now cast the Horoscope for this time. The Sun's Longitude and ASC should be very nearly the same..

Similar test for MID Day .Half the Sum of Sunrise+sunset.

For this time, Suns, Long must be same as 10th cusp.

For sunset : Deduct 3 m. 30 sec from stand sunset. The Sun should be almost exactly on the 7th Cusp

I have based by prog on basis of Formuale given By Raphel

I am open to correction, If my method is not correct

good luck

Try it then Judge.tw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear All,For your attention and review a comparison of different software results are given as follows:Example 1: KPBC1, Male, 3 November 1911, Fr, 11:48 AM UT + 00.00, Ipswich, England, 52N04, 001E101(a). Comparison of Asc position by using the same New KPA 22D-32m-10s as given by Raichur Software posted in KP Group.SN D-M-S RL-SL-S Software1. 253-25-31 Ju-Ve-Ve Raichurs2. 253-08-59 Ju-Ke-Ke Solar Fire3. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astro-Kundli4. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astrodienst5. 253-08-48 Ju-Ke-Ke Astraura6. 253-08-11 Ju-Ke-Ke Old One7. 253-08-36 Ju-Ke-Ke JHL8. 253-07-50 Ju-Ke-Ke Junior JyotishBasic DataSr Software Sid Time Asc D-M-S KPA1.Raichur 14-39-10 253-25-31 22-32-102.Solar Fire 14-34-29? 153-09-21 22-31-483.Astro-Kundli 253-09-10 22-31-444.Astrodienst 14-39-09

275-40-45 22-37-32*5.Astraura 14-39-09 253-09-35.48 22-31-23 6.Old One 14-39-09 253-09-21 22-317.JHL 14-39-09 253-09-26.04 22-31-19.298.Jr Jyotish 253-03 22-37* * Lahiri AyanamsaDifferences from New KPA: 1) 0 (base), 2) –22s, 3) –26s, 4) +5m.22s, 5) –47s, 6) –1.10, 7) –50.31s, 8) +4m.50s Explanations:1. Pl note 253-22-49 (Ju-Ve-Ve) in posting of KP Group Msg # 1410 due to Lat 52N06 other than 52N04.2. Western Tropical, very close to Goravani Jyotish & Parashara Light, as per kind favor of Ron Ganut in KP Group Msg # 14203. KP & Vedic, 4. Western tropical, also available sideral with Lahiri Ayanamsa 5. KP & Vedic, 6. based on KPA from KSK's tables & UTOH7. Jagannatha Hora Lite (Pandit Sanjay Rath's Study Group)8. Prof V. K. Choudhry'a SA Study Group (Vedic for 1700-2300 only)ATTENTION:1. SN 1 Software gives around 17d higher Asc with different Star Lord &

Sub Lord. (For other cusps more or less the same, ie same SL & SL)2. For other softwares no difference in deg-min, SL & S, except around 30sec lower in SN 6 Software.3. House system is not the problem, because Asc is the same whether Placidus, Koch or Equal is used. Something is wrong somewhere.1 (b). Comparison of Moon position by using the same New KPA 22-32-10Sr Deg-Min-Sec Software1. 336-20-09 Raichurs2. 336-20-34 Solar Fire3. 336-20-21 Astro-Kundli4. 336-20-12 Astrodienst5 336-20-12 Astraura6 336-21-20 Old One7 336-20-14 JHL8 336-19-50 Junior JyotishNot much difference except in SN 6 & 8. (For other planets more or less the same)Example 2. Leonardo da Vinci, 23 April 1452, 9-40 PM LMT, UT-0.44, Vinci, Italy, 43N47, 10E55For comparison the same KPA 16d-07m-15s is used.SN Asc D-M-S Moon D-M-S Software1. 227-30-40 078-01-54 Raichur2. 230-27-45

316-53-45 AstroDatabank3. 230-31-23 316-53-51 Astrodienst4. 230-30-53 078-04-18 Astraura5. 238-26-01 092-20-55 Old One6. 230-27-26 316-54-03 JHL7. 230-32-27 316-54-10 KhaldeaATTENTION: SN 1, 4 & 5 sofware have gone out of line. Solar Fire will be very useful.Basic DataSN Software Sid Time KPA 1. Raichur 11-31-41 16-07-46 2. Astrodienst 11-47-47 16-12-57* 3. Astraura 11-47-44 16-07-19 4. Old One 12-27-04 16-09-00 5. JHL 11-47-27 16-07-14.65 * Lahiri AyanamsaGood Luck!tw , Yogesh Rao Lajmi wrote:> Dear Members,> I have with me Mr.K.Subramaniam's K.P.> Software,but after I bought and began using the> Software developed by Shri A.R.Raichur(upto subsub> levels),I have found it most useful and> simple-to-use,and Shri Raichur also provides a> specially developed on K.P. Dasavidha

Poruthams> principles,a software for horoscope matching...which> in my humble opinion is prhaps the best Software for> K.P., developed so far...> I therefore would strongly recommend> Shri Raichur's Software...for K.P. followers...his> e-mai ID has appeared in these columns already...> With best wishes,I am,> Yours sincerely,> lyrastro1> GOOD LUCK !> > > Vaidun ji,> > Have a look at "Varahamihira for Windows" and "Mobile> Kundli for> PalmOS" by the company running this group. Both are> designed KP> astrologers in mind. The details are available at> http://www.astrocamp.com.> > Regards,> > Punit Pandey> > > > On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:40:15 +1000, Vaidun Vidyadhar> wrote:> > Dear List Members,> > > > I am new to

this list though I was introduced to KP> in 1988 when I was> > living in Madras. My introduction to vedic> astrology was with KP. I had> > bought all the books of Shri Krishnamurthi then and> was very impressed with> > his astrological skills. There are few who can> match the phenomenal> > accuracy of his predictions. Those days, I had to> MANUALLY cast each chart,> > be it natal or horary, with the help of tables and> the ephemeris. It used> > to take 2 hours of manual calculations to be able to> finally arrive at the> > table of significators. Now, with computers, the> same job can be done in> > seconds. Amazing. > > > > I have Goravani Jyotish which has some element of KP> in it but maybe not> > enough. I am thinking of buying some other> astrology program which> > incorporates the elements of

KP more fully. Can I> request members to kindly> > advise me as to which would be the best program for> this. I will be much> > obliged.> > > > I have always had an enduring interest in KP but was> unable to find a> > website or list which was fully devoted to KP, until> now. I hope to be able> > to learn a lot from you all and hone my KP skills. > > > > Thanks for your time. With best regards.> > > > Vaidun Vidyadhar> > 1 / 94 Marius Street> > Tamworth, NSW 2340> > Australia> > Tel: 61-2-67 668428 (home)> > Mobile: 0414 870 083> > Email: vvidya@o...> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

November 8, 2004

tw & members,

Mr Raichur has kindly given me his ayanamsa for 1st January 1900

which works out at 22:22:15. I have programmed this into Solar

Fire, Parashara Light and Goravani Jyotish and give the

appropriate figures for the following example.

Please see comments below ** ............... **

Ron Gaunt

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 05:48:10 +0000, you wrote:

>

>Dear All,

>

>For your attention and review a comparison of different software

>results are given as follows:

>

>Example 1: KPBC1, Male, 3 November 1911, Fr, 11:48 AM UT + 00.00,

>Ipswich, England, 52N04, 001E10

>

>1(a). Comparison of Asc position by using the same New KPA 22D-32m-

>10s as given by Raichur Software posted in KP Group.

>

>SN D-M-S RL-SL-S Software

>1. 253-25-31 Ju-Ve-Ve Raichurs

>2. 253-08-59 Ju-Ke-Ke Solar Fire

** 253-09-09 (note: SF shows 22-32-00 not 22-32-10 as

shown above - so there is an immediate discrepancy of 10 " )**

>3. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astro-Kundli

>4. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astrodienst

>5. 253-08-48 Ju-Ke-Ke Astraura

>6. 253-08-11 Ju-Ke-Ke Old One

>7. 253-08-36 Ju-Ke-Ke JHL

>8. 253-07-50 Ju-Ke-Ke Junior Jyotish

** 9 253-07-56 Parashara Light

(note PL shows 22-31-43 - a discrepancy of 17')

10 253-09-00

Goravani Jyotish

(please note: I think the above should read Ju-Ke-Me Not

Ju-Ke-Ke) **

>

>Basic Data

>

>Sr Software Sid Time Asc D-M-S KPA

>1.Raichur 14-39-10 253-25-31 22-32-10

>2.Solar Fire 14-34-29? 153-09-21 22-31-48

** " " 14-39-09 253-09 -09 22-32-00**

>3.Astro-Kundli 253-09-10 22-31-44

>4.Astrodienst 14-39-09 275-40-45 22-37-32*

>5.Astraura 14-39-09 253-09-35.48 22-31-23

>6.Old One 14-39-09 253-09-21 22-31

>7.JHL 14-39-09 253-09-26.04 22-31-19.29

>8.Jr Jyotish 253-03 22-37*

** 9 Parashara L. 253-07-56 22-31-43

10 Goravani Jyotish 253-09-00 22-32-10

>

>* Lahiri Ayanamsa

>

>Differences from New KPA: 1) 0 (base), 2) –22s, 3) –26s, 4) +5m.22s,

>5) –47s, 6) –1.10, 7) –50.31s, 8) +4m.50s

>

>Explanations:

>1. Pl note 253-22-49 (Ju-Ve-Ve) in posting of KP Group Msg # 1410 due

>to Lat 52N06 other than 52N04.

>2. Western Tropical, very close to Goravani Jyotish & Parashara

>Light, as per kind favor of Ron Ganut in KP Group Msg # 1420

>3. KP & Vedic,

>4. Western tropical, also available sideral with Lahiri Ayanamsa

>5. KP & Vedic,

>6. based on KPA from KSK's tables & UTOH

>7. Jagannatha Hora Lite (Pandit Sanjay Rath's Study Group)

>8. Prof V. K. Choudhry'a SA Study Group (Vedic for 1700-2300 only)

>

>ATTENTION:

>

>1. SN 1 Software gives around 17d higher Asc with different Star

>Lord & Sub Lord. (For other cusps more or less the same, ie same SL &

>SL)

** I think this should read 17 min not degrees **

>2. For other softwares no difference in deg-min, SL & S, except

>around 30sec lower in SN 6 Software.

>

>3. House system is not the problem, because Asc is the same

>whether Placidus, Koch or Equal is used. Something is wrong somewhere.

** Agreed. This is the same problem I saw when going through

the books. The major difference is the angles in Mr

Raichur's program and the other quality programs.**

>

>1 (b). Comparison of Moon position by using the same New KPA 22-32-10

>

>Sr Deg-Min-Sec Software

>1. 336-20-09 Raichurs

>2. 336-20-34 Solar Fire

** 336-20-22 " " **

>3. 336-20-21 Astro-Kundli

>4. 336-20-12 Astrodienst

>5 336-20-12 Astraura

>6 336-21-20 Old One

>7 336-20-14 JHL

>8 336-19-50 Junior Jyotish

** 9 336-20-39 Parashara Light **

**10 336-20-14 Goravani Jyotish **

>

>Not much difference except in SN 6 & 8. (For other planets more or

>less the same)

** 8 is calculated with Lahiri ayanamsa **

>

>Example 2. Leonardo da Vinci, 23 April 1452, 9-40 PM LMT, UT-0.44,

>Vinci, Italy, 43N47, 10E55

>

>For comparison the same KPA 16d-07m-15s is used.

>

>SN Asc D-M-S Moon D-M-S Software

>1. 227-30-40 078-01-54 Raichur

>2. 230-27-45 316-53-45 AstroDatabank

>3. 230-31-23 316-53-51 Astrodienst

>4. 230-30-53 078-04-18 Astraura

>5. 238-26-01 092-20-55 Old One

>6. 230-27-26 316-54-03 JHL

>7. 230-32-27 316-54-10 Khaldea

>

>ATTENTION: SN 1, 4 & 5 sofware have gone out of line. Solar Fire

>will be very useful.

** 8 237-38-43 078-03-34

Solar Fire

9 236-17-10 077-57-55

Parashara Light

>

>Basic Data

>

>SN Software Sid Time KPA

>1. Raichur 11-31-41 16-07-46

>2. Astrodienst 11-47-47 16-12-57*

>3. Astraura 11-47-44 16-07-19

>4. Old One 2-27-04 16-09-00

>5. JHL 11-47-27 16-07-14.65

** 6 Solar Fire 16-07-56

7 Parash. Light 16-07-15**

** PS I feel very confident about the planets accuracy in

Solar Fire. I have checked out against historical sightings

and they appear to be very accurate. ie. Babylonian clay

tablet for 4th April 0263BC where Sun and Moon were

exactly as observed **

>

>* Lahiri Ayanamsa

>

>Good Luck!

>

>tw

>

> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

>wrote:

>> Dear Members,

>> I have with me Mr.K.Subramaniam's K.P.

>> Software,but after I bought and began using the

>> Software developed by Shri A.R.Raichur(upto subsub

>> levels),I have found it most useful and

>> simple-to-use,and Shri Raichur also provides a

>> specially developed on K.P. Dasavidha Poruthams

>> principles,a software for horoscope matching...which

>> in my humble opinion is prhaps the best Software for

>> K.P., developed so far...

>> I therefore would strongly recommend

>> Shri Raichur's Software...for K.P. followers...his

>> e-mai ID has appeared in these columns already...

>> With best wishes,I am,

>> Yours sincerely,

>> lyrastro1

>> GOOD LUCK !

>>

>> Vaidun ji,

>>

>> Have a look at " Varahamihira for Windows " and " Mobile

>> Kundli for

>> PalmOS " by the company running this group. Both are

>> designed KP

>> astrologers in mind. The details are available at

>> http://www.astrocamp.com.

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Punit Pandey

>>

>> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:40:15 +1000, Vaidun Vidyadhar

>> <vvidya@o...> wrote:

>> > Dear List Members,

>> >

>> > I am new to this list though I was introduced to KP

>> in 1988 when I was

>> > living in Madras. My introduction to vedic

>> astrology was with KP. I had

>> > bought all the books of Shri Krishnamurthi then and

>> was very impressed with

>> > his astrological skills. There are few who can

>> match the phenomenal

>> > accuracy of his predictions. Those days, I had to

>> MANUALLY cast each chart,

>> > be it natal or horary, with the help of tables and

>> the ephemeris. It used

>> > to take 2 hours of manual calculations to be able to

>> finally arrive at the

>> > table of significators. Now, with computers, the

>> same job can be done in

>> > seconds. Amazing.

>> >

>> > I have Goravani Jyotish which has some element of KP

>> in it but maybe not

>> > enough. I am thinking of buying some other

>> astrology program which

>> > incorporates the elements of KP more fully. Can I

>> request members to kindly

>> > advise me as to which would be the best program for

>> this. I will be much

>> > obliged.

>> >

>> > I have always had an enduring interest in KP but was

>> unable to find a

>> > website or list which was fully devoted to KP, until

>> now. I hope to be able

>> > to learn a lot from you all and hone my KP skills.

>> >

>> > Thanks for your time. With best regards.

>> >

>> > Vaidun Vidyadhar

>> > 1 / 94 Marius Street

>> > Tamworth, NSW 2340

>> > Australia

>> > Tel: 61-2-67 668428 (home)

>> > Mobile: 0414 870 083

>> > Email: vvidya@o...

>> >

November 8, 2004

Anant,

I have experimented with Solar Fire which gives sunrise, etc

positions. S.F. obviously shows the mid point of the Sun as the

Sun is within 2' of the Ascendant at sunrise on the day of our

Blind Chart example. However, calculating with your ayanamsa,

and the one I was working with shows no difference in either Asc

or Sun positions. In fact changing the ayanamsa considerably -

whilst it changes the degrees and minutes of the Sun and Asc the

differential between and Asc and Sun remains the same ie 2'.

I cannot see how this can be used to prove the validity of the

Asc position.

Ron Gaunt

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 23:38:24 -0800, you wrote:

>difference in ASC.

>

>There is a simple test. Find out the correct time of SUN Rise at a place. The

usual Time is given for the Upper Limb to be at the Horizon. Add 3mt, 30 sec.

to this time. This gives the Time when Sun's Centre is on the Horizon.

>

>Now cast the Horoscope for this time. The Sun's Longitude and ASC should be

very nearly the same..

>

>Similar test for MID Day .Half the Sum of Sunrise+sunset.

>

>For this time, Suns, Long must be same as 10th cusp.

>

>For sunset : Deduct 3 m. 30 sec from stand sunset. The Sun should be almost

exactly on the 7th Cusp

>

>I have based by prog on basis of Formuale given By Raphel

>

>I am open to correction, If my method is not correct

>

>good luck

>

>Try it then Judge.

>

>tw853 <tw853 wrote:

>

>Dear All,

>

>For your attention and review a comparison of different software

>results are given as follows:

>

>Example 1: KPBC1, Male, 3 November 1911, Fr, 11:48 AM UT + 00.00,

>Ipswich, England, 52N04, 001E10

>

>1(a). Comparison of Asc position by using the same New KPA 22D-32m-

>10s as given by Raichur Software posted in KP Group.

>

>SN D-M-S RL-SL-S Software

>1. 253-25-31 Ju-Ve-Ve Raichurs

>2. 253-08-59 Ju-Ke-Ke Solar Fire

>3. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astro-Kundli

>4. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astrodienst

>5. 253-08-48 Ju-Ke-Ke Astraura

>6. 253-08-11 Ju-Ke-Ke Old One

>7. 253-08-36 Ju-Ke-Ke JHL

>8. 253-07-50 Ju-Ke-Ke Junior Jyotish

>

>Basic Data

>

>Sr Software Sid Time Asc D-M-S KPA

>1.Raichur 14-39-10 253-25-31 22-32-10

>2.Solar Fire 14-34-29? 153-09-21 22-31-48

>3.Astro-Kundli 253-09-10 22-31-44

>4.Astrodienst 14-39-09 275-40-45 22-37-32*

>5.Astraura 14-39-09 253-09-35.48 22-31-23

>6.Old One 14-39-09 253-09-21 22-31

>7.JHL 14-39-09 253-09-26.04 22-31-19.29

>8.Jr Jyotish 253-03 22-37*

>

>* Lahiri Ayanamsa

>

>Differences from New KPA: 1) 0 (base), 2) –22s, 3) –26s, 4) +5m.22s,

>5) –47s, 6) –1.10, 7) –50.31s, 8) +4m.50s

>

>Explanations:

>1. Pl note 253-22-49 (Ju-Ve-Ve) in posting of KP Group Msg # 1410 due

>to Lat 52N06 other than 52N04.

>2. Western Tropical, very close to Goravani Jyotish & Parashara

>Light, as per kind favor of Ron Ganut in KP Group Msg # 1420

>3. KP & Vedic,

>4. Western tropical, also available sideral with Lahiri Ayanamsa

>5. KP & Vedic,

>6. based on KPA from KSK's tables & UTOH

>7. Jagannatha Hora Lite (Pandit Sanjay Rath's Study Group)

>8. Prof V. K. Choudhry'a SA Study Group (Vedic for 1700-2300 only)

>

>ATTENTION:

>

>1. SN 1 Software gives around 17d higher Asc with different Star

>Lord & Sub Lord. (For other cusps more or less the same, ie same SL &

>SL)

>

>2. For other softwares no difference in deg-min, SL & S, except

>around 30sec lower in SN 6 Software.

>

>3. House system is not the problem, because Asc is the same

>whether Placidus, Koch or Equal is used. Something is wrong somewhere.

>

>1 (b). Comparison of Moon position by using the same New KPA 22-32-10

>

>Sr Deg-Min-Sec Software

>1. 336-20-09 Raichurs

>2. 336-20-34 Solar Fire

>3. 336-20-21 Astro-Kundli

>4. 336-20-12 Astrodienst

>5 336-20-12 Astraura

>6 336-21-20 Old One

>7 336-20-14 JHL

>8 336-19-50 Junior Jyotish

>

>Not much difference except in SN 6 & 8. (For other planets more or

>less the same)

>

>Example 2. Leonardo da Vinci, 23 April 1452, 9-40 PM LMT, UT-0.44,

>Vinci, Italy, 43N47, 10E55

>

>For comparison the same KPA 16d-07m-15s is used.

>

>SN Asc D-M-S Moon D-M-S Software

>1. 227-30-40 078-01-54 Raichur

>2. 230-27-45 316-53-45 AstroDatabank

>3. 230-31-23 316-53-51 Astrodienst

>4. 230-30-53 078-04-18 Astraura

>5. 238-26-01 092-20-55 Old One

>6. 230-27-26 316-54-03 JHL

>7. 230-32-27 316-54-10 Khaldea

>

>ATTENTION: SN 1, 4 & 5 sofware have gone out of line. Solar Fire

>will be very useful.

>

>Basic Data

>

>SN Software Sid Time KPA

>1. Raichur 11-31-41 16-07-46

>2. Astrodienst 11-47-47 16-12-57*

>3. Astraura 11-47-44 16-07-19

>4. Old One 12-27-04 16-09-00

>5. JHL 11-47-27 16-07-14.65

>

>* Lahiri Ayanamsa

>

>Good Luck!

>

>tw

>

> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi

>wrote:

>> Dear Members,

>> I have with me Mr.K.Subramaniam's K.P.

>> Software,but after I bought and began using the

>> Software developed by Shri A.R.Raichur(upto subsub

>> levels),I have found it most useful and

>> simple-to-use,and Shri Raichur also provides a

>> specially developed on K.P. Dasavidha Poruthams

>> principles,a software for horoscope matching...which

>> in my humble opinion is prhaps the best Software for

>> K.P., developed so far...

>> I therefore would strongly recommend

>> Shri Raichur's Software...for K.P. followers...his

>> e-mai ID has appeared in these columns already...

>> With best wishes,I am,

>> Yours sincerely,

>> lyrastro1

>> GOOD LUCK !

>>

>> Vaidun ji,

>>

>> Have a look at " Varahamihira for Windows " and " Mobile

>> Kundli for

>> PalmOS " by the company running this group. Both are

>> designed KP

>> astrologers in mind. The details are available at

>> http://www.astrocamp.com.

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Punit Pandey

>>

>> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:40:15 +1000, Vaidun Vidyadhar

>> wrote:

>> > Dear List Members,

>> >

>> > I am new to this list though I was introduced to KP

>> in 1988 when I was

>> > living in Madras. My introduction to vedic

>> astrology was with KP. I had

>> > bought all the books of Shri Krishnamurthi then and

>> was very impressed with

>> > his astrological skills. There are few who can

>> match the phenomenal

>> > accuracy of his predictions. Those days, I had to

>> MANUALLY cast each chart,

>> > be it natal or horary, with the help of tables and

>> the ephemeris. It used

>> > to take 2 hours of manual calculations to be able to

>> finally arrive at the

>> > table of significators. Now, with computers, the

>> same job can be done in

>> > seconds. Amazing.

>> >

>> > I have Goravani Jyotish which has some element of KP

>> in it but maybe not

>> > enough. I am thinking of buying some other

>> astrology program which

>> > incorporates the elements of KP more fully. Can I

>> request members to kindly

>> > advise me as to which would be the best program for

>> this. I will be much

>> > obliged.

>> >

>> > I have always had an enduring interest in KP but was

>> unable to find a

>> > website or list which was fully devoted to KP, until

>> now. I hope to be able

>> > to learn a lot from you all and hone my KP skills.

>> >

>> > Thanks for your time. With best regards.

>> >

>> > Vaidun Vidyadhar

>> > 1 / 94 Marius Street

>> > Tamworth, NSW 2340

>> > Australia

>> > Tel: 61-2-67 668428 (home)

>> > Mobile: 0414 870 083

>> > Email: vvidya@o...

>> >

November 9, 2004

Yogesh,

When you state " reproduced in these columns by Shri Kanak

Bosmiaji " , I am not certain whether you infer that the document

is reproduced in the magazine or this List. If it is this List

do you have the date of the posting? Thanks

Ron Gaunt

On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 06:28:39 +0000, you wrote:

>Dear tw853,

> With K.P. NEW ayanamsa the ascendant sub-sub is VENUS...while

with all others the asc sub-sub is Kethu...

> Does that make any significant difference or not...should be

examined to decide upon the correctness of the ayanamsa...?

> I generally follow New K.P. ayanamsa,frankly,blindly,simply

because,not only am I convinced,but, I have implicit faith in both,

M.G.G.Nair,and Professor Balachandran,who has explained briefly,but convincingly

how he has derived these new Ayanamsa values,in K.P. &

Astrology,Magazine,2003,Annual,pp. 66-93,and reproduced in these columns by Shri

Kanak Bosmiaji...

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

>tw853 <tw853 wrote:

>

>Dear All,

>

>For your attention and review a comparison of different software

>results are given as follows:

>

>Example 1: KPBC1, Male, 3 November 1911, Fr, 11:48 AM UT + 00.00,

>Ipswich, England, 52N04, 001E10

>

>1(a). Comparison of Asc position by using the same New KPA 22D-32m-

>10s as given by Raichur Software posted in KP Group.

>

>SN D-M-S RL-SL-S Software

>1. 253-25-31 Ju-Ve-Ve Raichurs

>2. 253-08-59 Ju-Ke-Ke Solar Fire

>3. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astro-Kundli

>4. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astrodienst

>5. 253-08-48 Ju-Ke-Ke Astraura

>6. 253-08-11 Ju-Ke-Ke Old One

>7. 253-08-36 Ju-Ke-Ke JHL

>8. 253-07-50 Ju-Ke-Ke Junior Jyotish

>

>Basic Data

>

>Sr Software Sid Time Asc D-M-S KPA

>1.Raichur 14-39-10 253-25-31 22-32-10

>2.Solar Fire 14-34-29? 153-09-21 22-31-48

>3.Astro-Kundli 253-09-10 22-31-44

>4.Astrodienst 14-39-09 275-40-45 22-37-32*

>5.Astraura 14-39-09 253-09-35.48 22-31-23

>6.Old One 14-39-09 253-09-21 22-31

>7.JHL 14-39-09 253-09-26.04 22-31-19.29

>8.Jr Jyotish 253-03 22-37*

>

>* Lahiri Ayanamsa

>

>Differences from New KPA: 1) 0 (base), 2) –22s, 3) –26s, 4) +5m.22s,

>5) –47s, 6) –1.10, 7) –50.31s, 8) +4m.50s

>

>Explanations:

>1. Pl note 253-22-49 (Ju-Ve-Ve) in posting of KP Group Msg # 1410 due

>to Lat 52N06 other than 52N04.

>2. Western Tropical, very close to Goravani Jyotish & Parashara

>Light, as per kind favor of Ron Ganut in KP Group Msg # 1420

>3. KP & Vedic,

>4. Western tropical, also available sideral with Lahiri Ayanamsa

>5. KP & Vedic,

>6. based on KPA from KSK's tables & UTOH

>7. Jagannatha Hora Lite (Pandit Sanjay Rath's Study Group)

>8. Prof V. K. Choudhry'a SA Study Group (Vedic for 1700-2300 only)

>

>ATTENTION:

>

>1. SN 1 Software gives around 17d higher Asc with different Star

>Lord & Sub Lord. (For other cusps more or less the same, ie same SL &

>SL)

>

>2. For other softwares no difference in deg-min, SL & S, except

>around 30sec lower in SN 6 Software.

>

>3. House system is not the problem, because Asc is the same

>whether Placidus, Koch or Equal is used. Something is wrong somewhere.

>

>1 (b). Comparison of Moon position by using the same New KPA 22-32-10

>

>Sr Deg-Min-Sec Software

>1. 336-20-09 Raichurs

>2. 336-20-34 Solar Fire

>3. 336-20-21 Astro-Kundli

>4. 336-20-12 Astrodienst

>5 336-20-12 Astraura

>6 336-21-20 Old One

>7 336-20-14 JHL

>8 336-19-50 Junior Jyotish

>

>Not much difference except in SN 6 & 8. (For other planets more or

>less the same)

>

>Example 2. Leonardo da Vinci, 23 April 1452, 9-40 PM LMT, UT-0.44,

>Vinci, Italy, 43N47, 10E55

>

>For comparison the same KPA 16d-07m-15s is used.

>

>SN Asc D-M-S Moon D-M-S Software

>1. 227-30-40 078-01-54 Raichur

>2. 230-27-45 316-53-45 AstroDatabank

>3. 230-31-23 316-53-51 Astrodienst

>4. 230-30-53 078-04-18 Astraura

>5. 238-26-01 092-20-55 Old One

>6. 230-27-26 316-54-03 JHL

>7. 230-32-27 316-54-10 Khaldea

>

>ATTENTION: SN 1, 4 & 5 sofware have gone out of line. Solar Fire

>will be very useful.

>

>Basic Data

>

>SN Software Sid Time KPA

>1. Raichur 11-31-41 16-07-46

>2. Astrodienst 11-47-47 16-12-57*

>3. Astraura 11-47-44 16-07-19

>4. Old One 12-27-04 16-09-00

>5. JHL 11-47-27 16-07-14.65

>

>* Lahiri Ayanamsa

>

>Good Luck!

>

>tw

>

> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

>wrote:

>> Dear Members,

>> I have with me Mr.K.Subramaniam's K.P.

>> Software,but after I bought and began using the

>> Software developed by Shri A.R.Raichur(upto subsub

>> levels),I have found it most useful and

>> simple-to-use,and Shri Raichur also provides a

>> specially developed on K.P. Dasavidha Poruthams

>> principles,a software for horoscope matching...which

>> in my humble opinion is prhaps the best Software for

>> K.P., developed so far...

>> I therefore would strongly recommend

>> Shri Raichur's Software...for K.P. followers...his

>> e-mai ID has appeared in these columns already...

>> With best wishes,I am,

>> Yours sincerely,

>> lyrastro1

>> GOOD LUCK !

>>

>> Vaidun ji,

>>

>> Have a look at " Varahamihira for Windows " and " Mobile

>> Kundli for

>> PalmOS " by the company running this group. Both are

>> designed KP

>> astrologers in mind. The details are available at

>> http://www.astrocamp.com.

>>

>> Regards,

>>

>> Punit Pandey

>>

>> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:40:15 +1000, Vaidun Vidyadhar

>> <vvidya@o...> wrote:

>> > Dear List Members,

>> >

>> > I am new to this list though I was introduced to KP

>> in 1988 when I was

>> > living in Madras. My introduction to vedic

>> astrology was with KP. I had

>> > bought all the books of Shri Krishnamurthi then and

>> was very impressed with

>> > his astrological skills. There are few who can

>> match the phenomenal

>> > accuracy of his predictions. Those days, I had to

>> MANUALLY cast each chart,

>> > be it natal or horary, with the help of tables and

>> the ephemeris. It used

>> > to take 2 hours of manual calculations to be able to

>> finally arrive at the

>> > table of significators. Now, with computers, the

>> same job can be done in

>> > seconds. Amazing.

>> >

>> > I have Goravani Jyotish which has some element of KP

>> in it but maybe not

>> > enough. I am thinking of buying some other

>> astrology program which

>> > incorporates the elements of KP more fully. Can I

>> request members to kindly

>> > advise me as to which would be the best program for

>> this. I will be much

>> > obliged.

>> >

>> > I have always had an enduring interest in KP but was

>> unable to find a

>> > website or list which was fully devoted to KP, until

>> now. I hope to be able

>> > to learn a lot from you all and hone my KP skills.

>> >

>> > Thanks for your time. With best regards.

>> >

>> > Vaidun Vidyadhar

>> > 1 / 94 Marius Street

>> > Tamworth, NSW 2340

>> > Australia

>> > Tel: 61-2-67 668428 (home)

>> > Mobile: 0414 870 083

>> > Email: vvidya@o...

>> >

November 9, 2004

Dear All,

Thank you very much for your comments.

1. Pl note that the aynamsa factor has been neutralized by using

only so-called " New KPA " 22d-32m-10s given by Raichur's software in

the both tables 1 (a) & 1 (b) of the example 1 (KPBC1) comparing

Asc and Moon positions. That is why it is not necessary to examine

to decide the correctness of the ayanamsa. To make it clearer, Asc

153-09-21 by Solar Fire is deducted by 22sec (New KPA 22-32-10 minus

KPA 22-31-48 used by Ron Gaunt) to get a comparable Asc position with

the same New KPA. Asc 253-09-26.04 by JHL is deducted by 50.71sec

(New KPA 22-32-10 minus KPA 22-31-19.29 used by JHL) to get a

comparable Asc position with the same New KPA. In JHL it can be

calculated directly with New KPA by entering the " Custom (user

defied) " ayanamsa. In the table of example 2, the KPA 16-07-14.65 of

JHL (which is still in line) is used for all softwares. 31sec

(difference between Raichur New KPA and JHL KPA) can be deducted to

get Asc and Moon position with NEW KPA.

2. Difference between New KPA and old KPA is 30-50sec only. The

difference in Asc of KPBC1 is around 17deg (equivalent to 1h8m

differnce in BOT) giving different SL, SL & SSL. Does that make any

significant difference or not is the will of the person (in

examining longevity, health, prarabdha mentioned in Msg #890, etc - -

-).

3. New KPA can be acceptable since there is not much

difference. It also may not be a big deal for Guruji KSK who said

that " the difference between what I follow, what Lahiri (6m

difference) and Rajan follow is negligible " .

4. Of course, the difference of 1sec in Sid. Time is due to the

Ephemeris used. Astrodienst and Astro-Kundle use Swiss Ephemeris.

Their results are more or less the same but sometimes there are

differences. But it's just a check point in the process of

calculation. Acceptable is Kanak Bosmia's manual calculation,

saying 14-39-10 matches with only Raichur's software. But how about

17 deg difference in Asc of KPBC1 and going out of line in the case

of Leonardo da Vinci? It will be very interseting if manual

calculations can be done. In fact, this is the only best simple way

to check the results in stead of Sun calculation etc. I tried, but I

couldn't because pages for ENG are not included in my photo copy of

UTOH. Not much difference with positions of planets. It is

understanable how equations in the software are delicate to adjust in

making a balance over short and long term.

5. Anyway it's good since my purpose is not to judge which

software is correct, but just to let our Group members know about the

software results in the short term and in the long term like the

chart of Leonardo da Vinci. Only one thing can be mentioned that

Solar Fire is the one mentioned by late Lois Rodden of AsroDatabak.

6. If useful, some issues on New KPA may be discussed later

just for academic purpose only even though it is said that the KP

ayanamsa has been modified in 2003 and all old figures in the Books

do not hold good.

7. As expected less difference for youger native, for John

Edawrd,10 June 1953, We, 7-02 AM, UT-5h, Seneca, Sc, 34N41, 82W57

New KPA 23d-7m-0s as per Raichur for all softwares by adjustment

Software Asc D-M-S Mo D-M-S Su D-M-S

Raichur 78-49-10 42-02-15 56-10-58

AsroDatabank 78-55-00 42-03-00 56-11-00

Astrodienst 78-55-29 42-02-22 56-10-31

Astraura 78-55-41 42-02-36 56-10-45

Old One 78-54-43 42-04-16 56-10-49

JHl 78-55-43 42-02-38 56-11-05

Sid. Time 23-44-22 in Raichur, ST 22-44-23 Astrodienst, ST 23-44-23

Astraura, ST 23-44-22 Old One, ST 23-44-23 JHL; New KPA 23-7-0 in

Raichur, KPA 23-6-38 Astraura, KPA 23-6 Old One, KPA 23-06-33 JHL,

Lahiri 23-12-24 Astrdienst.

Only around 6d difference in Asc, Monn & Sun mor or less consistent.

Will be worst for forty-years-older (than Vinci) Joan of Arc, 15 Jan

1413 NS, 5 PM LMT , UT-0:23, Domremy La Pucelle, France, 48N27,

05E41; Astraura & mine Old One run on only dot matrix printer gone

out of line; if interested, Raichur can be run and compared.(Sorry

for not being able to clude those results due to some difficulties in

running the program.)

KPA 15-34-20 (JHL) for all softwares by adjustment

Software Asc D-M-S Mo D-M-S

AstroDatabank 105-53-40 334-36-40

Astrodienst 105-53-57 334-34-46

Astraura 105-50-31 91-46-22

Old One 113-02-40 103-45-05

JHL 105-51-12 334-35-23

Sid. Time 0-38-31 in Astrodienst, ST 0-38-11 Astraura, ST 23-44-22

Old One, ST 0-38-15 JHL; KPA 15-34-26 in Astraura, KPA 23-6 Old One,

KPA 15-34-20 JHL, Lahiri 15-40-07 in Astrodienst.

Best regards,

tw

P.S. Same request like Ron Gaunt for information on posting by Kanak

Bosmiaji.

, Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1>

wrote:

> Dear tw853,

> With K.P. NEW ayanamsa the ascendant sub-sub is

VENUS...while with all others the asc sub-sub is Kethu...

> Does that make any significant difference or

not...should be examined to decide upon the correctness of the

ayanamsa...?

> I generally follow New K.P.

ayanamsa,frankly,blindly,simply because,not only am I convinced,but,

I have implicit faith in both, M.G.G.Nair,and Professor

Balachandran,who has explained briefly,but convincingly how he has

derived these new Ayanamsa values,in K.P. &

Astrology,Magazine,2003,Annual,pp. 66-93,and reproduced in these

columns by Shri Kanak Bosmiaji...

> Yours sincerely,

> lyrastro1

> GOOD LUCK !

>

> tw853 <tw853> wrote:

>

> Dear All,

>

> For your attention and review a comparison of different software

> results are given as follows:

>

> Example 1: KPBC1, Male, 3 November 1911, Fr, 11:48 AM UT + 00.00,

> Ipswich, England, 52N04, 001E10

>

> 1(a). Comparison of Asc position by using the same New KPA 22D-32m-

> 10s as given by Raichur Software posted in KP Group.

>

> SN D-M-S RL-SL-S Software

> 1. 253-25-31 Ju-Ve-Ve Raichurs

> 2. 253-08-59 Ju-Ke-Ke Solar Fire

> 3. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astro-Kundli

> 4. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astrodienst

> 5. 253-08-48 Ju-Ke-Ke Astraura

> 6. 253-08-11 Ju-Ke-Ke Old One

> 7. 253-08-36 Ju-Ke-Ke JHL

> 8. 253-07-50 Ju-Ke-Ke Junior Jyotish

>

> Basic Data

>

> Sr Software Sid Time Asc D-M-S KPA

> 1.Raichur 14-39-10 253-25-31 22-32-10

> 2.Solar Fire 14-34-29? 153-09-21 22-31-48

> 3.Astro-Kundli 253-09-10 22-31-44

> 4.Astrodienst 14-39-09 275-40-45 22-37-32*

> 5.Astraura 14-39-09 253-09-35.48 22-31-23

> 6.Old One 14-39-09 253-09-21 22-31

> 7.JHL 14-39-09 253-09-26.04 22-31-19.29

> 8.Jr Jyotish 253-03 22-37*

>

> * Lahiri Ayanamsa

>

> Differences from New KPA: 1) 0 (base), 2) –22s, 3) –26s, 4)

+5m.22s,

> 5) –47s, 6) –1.10, 7) –50.31s, 8) +4m.50s

>

> Explanations:

> 1. Pl note 253-22-49 (Ju-Ve-Ve) in posting of KP Group Msg # 1410

due

> to Lat 52N06 other than 52N04.

> 2. Western Tropical, very close to Goravani Jyotish & Parashara

> Light, as per kind favor of Ron Ganut in KP Group Msg # 1420

> 3. KP & Vedic,

> 4. Western tropical, also available sideral with Lahiri Ayanamsa

> 5. KP & Vedic,

> 6. based on KPA from KSK's tables & UTOH

> 7. Jagannatha Hora Lite (Pandit Sanjay Rath's Study Group)

> 8. Prof V. K. Choudhry'a SA Study Group (Vedic for 1700-2300 only)

>

> ATTENTION:

>

> 1. SN 1 Software gives around 17d higher Asc with different

Star

> Lord & Sub Lord. (For other cusps more or less the same, ie same SL

&

> SL)

>

> 2. For other softwares no difference in deg-min, SL & S,

except

> around 30sec lower in SN 6 Software.

>

> 3. House system is not the problem, because Asc is the same

> whether Placidus, Koch or Equal is used. Something is wrong

somewhere.

>

> 1 (b). Comparison of Moon position by using the same New KPA 22-32-

10

>

> Sr Deg-Min-Sec Software

> 1. 336-20-09 Raichurs

> 2. 336-20-34 Solar Fire

> 3. 336-20-21 Astro-Kundli

> 4. 336-20-12 Astrodienst

> 5 336-20-12 Astraura

> 6 336-21-20 Old One

> 7 336-20-14 JHL

> 8 336-19-50 Junior Jyotish

>

> Not much difference except in SN 6 & 8. (For other planets more or

> less the same)

>

> Example 2. Leonardo da Vinci, 23 April 1452, 9-40 PM LMT, UT-0.44,

> Vinci, Italy, 43N47, 10E55

>

> For comparison the same KPA 16d-07m-15s is used.

>

> SN Asc D-M-S Moon D-M-S Software

> 1. 227-30-40 078-01-54 Raichur

> 2. 230-27-45 316-53-45 AstroDatabank

> 3. 230-31-23 316-53-51 Astrodienst

> 4. 230-30-53 078-04-18 Astraura

> 5. 238-26-01 092-20-55 Old One

> 6. 230-27-26 316-54-03 JHL

> 7. 230-32-27 316-54-10 Khaldea

>

> ATTENTION: SN 1, 4 & 5 sofware have gone out of line. Solar Fire

> will be very useful.

>

> Basic Data

>

> SN Software Sid Time KPA

> 1. Raichur 11-31-41 16-07-46

> 2. Astrodienst 11-47-47 16-12-57*

> 3. Astraura 11-47-44 16-07-19

> 4. Old One 12-27-04 16-09-00

> 5. JHL 11-47-27 16-07-14.65

>

> * Lahiri Ayanamsa

>

> Good Luck!

>

> tw

>

> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi

> wrote:

> > Dear Members,

> > I have with me Mr.K.Subramaniam's K.P.

> > Software,but after I bought and began using the

> > Software developed by Shri A.R.Raichur(upto subsub

> > levels),I have found it most useful and

> > simple-to-use,and Shri Raichur also provides a

> > specially developed on K.P. Dasavidha Poruthams

> > principles,a software for horoscope matching...which

> > in my humble opinion is prhaps the best Software for

> > K.P., developed so far...

> > I therefore would strongly recommend

> > Shri Raichur's Software...for K.P. followers...his

> > e-mai ID has appeared in these columns already...

> > With best wishes,I am,

> > Yours sincerely,

> > lyrastro1

> > GOOD LUCK !

> >

> > Vaidun ji,

> >

> > Have a look at " Varahamihira for Windows " and " Mobile

> > Kundli for

> > PalmOS " by the company running this group. Both are

> > designed KP

> > astrologers in mind. The details are available at

> > http://www.astrocamp.com.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Punit Pandey

> >

> > On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:40:15 +1000, Vaidun Vidyadhar

> > <vvidya@o...> wrote:

> > > Dear List Members,

> > >

> > > I am new to this list though I was introduced to KP

> > in 1988 when I was

> > > living in Madras. My introduction to vedic

> > astrology was with KP. I had

> > > bought all the books of Shri Krishnamurthi then and

> > was very impressed with

> > > his astrological skills. There are few who can

> > match the phenomenal

> > > accuracy of his predictions. Those days, I had to

> > MANUALLY cast each chart,

> > > be it natal or horary, with the help of tables and

> > the ephemeris. It used

> > > to take 2 hours of manual calculations to be able to

> > finally arrive at the

> > > table of significators. Now, with computers, the

> > same job can be done in

> > > seconds. Amazing.

> > >

> > > I have Goravani Jyotish which has some element of KP

> > in it but maybe not

> > > enough. I am thinking of buying some other

> > astrology program which

> > > incorporates the elements of KP more fully. Can I

> > request members to kindly

> > > advise me as to which would be the best program for

> > this. I will be much

> > > obliged.

> > >

> > > I have always had an enduring interest in KP but was

> > unable to find a

> > > website or list which was fully devoted to KP, until

> > now. I hope to be able

> > > to learn a lot from you all and hone my KP skills.

> > >

> > > Thanks for your time. With best regards.

> > >

> > > Vaidun Vidyadhar

> > > 1 / 94 Marius Street

> > > Tamworth, NSW 2340

> > > Australia

> > > Tel: 61-2-67 668428 (home)

> > > Mobile: 0414 870 083

> > > Email: vvidya@o...

> > >

November 9, 2004

Dear Rongaunt

The checking of the ASC with Sunrise, Center of Sun,s Disk, is to verify wether the

calculations used for ASC are correct or not. The Ayanmsa has part in this comparison, as in any calculation, the SAYANA position of SUN, and The Sayana ASC are calculated, and then the Nirayan Positions are found by deducting the Ayanamsa from them.

Your statement that the Sun's Longitude at Sunrise, and the Asc at that time, do not differ by more than 2 min, means that the calculations of Asc are acceptable. The Asc moves roughly 15 minutes for every minute of time. The Time of Sun Rise, from upper limb to center varies from 3 to 4 minutes. 30 seconds of diff will mean 30 X 15 = 7.5 minutes in the ASC.

The other equally sensitive point is the Siderial Time, which determines the ASC.

I do not find any difference to give the 17 minutes diff in ASC.

I am happy you are making a deep study of this.

One VERY IMPORTANT THING IS We have to use the GEO-CENTRIC Latitude, in our calculations. My prog. converts the Geograprphic Lat to Geogentric, before getting the ASC and other House Cusps

Good Luck

rongaunt <rongaunt wrote:

Anant,I have experimented with Solar Fire which gives sunrise, etcpositions. S.F. obviously shows the mid point of the Sun as theSun is within 2' of the Ascendant at sunrise on the day of ourBlind Chart example. However, calculating with your ayanamsa,and the one I was working with shows no difference in either Ascor Sun positions. In fact changing the ayanamsa considerably -whilst it changes the degrees and minutes of the Sun and Asc thedifferential between and Asc and Sun remains the same ie 2'.I cannot see how this can be used to prove the validity of theAsc position.Ron GauntOn Sun, 07 Nov 2004 23:38:24 -0800, you wrote:>difference in ASC.> >There is a simple test. Find out the correct time of SUN Rise at a place. The usual Time is given for the Upper Limb to be at the Horizon.

Add 3mt, 30 sec. to this time. This gives the Time when Sun's Centre is on the Horizon.> >Now cast the Horoscope for this time. The Sun's Longitude and ASC should be very nearly the same..> >Similar test for MID Day .Half the Sum of Sunrise+sunset. > >For this time, Suns, Long must be same as 10th cusp.> >For sunset : Deduct 3 m. 30 sec from stand sunset. The Sun should be almost exactly on the 7th Cusp> >I have based by prog on basis of Formuale given By Raphel> >I am open to correction, If my method is not correct> >good luck> >Try it then Judge.>>tw853 wrote:>>>Dear All,>>For your attention and review a comparison of different software >results are given as follows:>>>Example 1: KPBC1, Male, 3 November 1911, Fr, 11:48 AM UT + 00.00, >Ipswich, England, 52N04,

001E10>>1(a). Comparison of Asc position by using the same New KPA 22D-32m->10s as given by Raichur Software posted in KP Group.>>SN D-M-S RL-SL-S Software>1. 253-25-31 Ju-Ve-Ve Raichurs>2. 253-08-59 Ju-Ke-Ke Solar Fire>3. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astro-Kundli>4. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astrodienst>5. 253-08-48 Ju-Ke-Ke Astraura>6. 253-08-11 Ju-Ke-Ke Old One>7. 253-08-36 Ju-Ke-Ke JHL>8. 253-07-50 Ju-Ke-Ke Junior Jyotish>>Basic Data>>Sr Software Sid Time Asc D-M-S KPA>1.Raichur 14-39-10 253-25-31 22-32-10>2.Solar Fire 14-34-29? 153-09-21 22-31-48>3.Astro-Kundli 253-09-10 22-31-44>4.Astrodienst 14-39-09 275-40-45 22-37-32*>5.Astraura 14-39-09 253-09-35.48 22-31-23 >6.Old One 14-39-09 253-09-21 22-31>7.JHL 14-39-09 253-09-26.04 22-31-19.29>8.Jr Jyotish 253-03 22-37* >>* Lahiri

Ayanamsa>>Differences from New KPA: 1) 0 (base), 2) –22s, 3) –26s, 4) +5m.22s, >5) –47s, 6) –1.10, 7) –50.31s, 8) +4m.50s >>Explanations:>1. Pl note 253-22-49 (Ju-Ve-Ve) in posting of KP Group Msg # 1410 due >to Lat 52N06 other than 52N04.>2. Western Tropical, very close to Goravani Jyotish & Parashara >Light, as per kind favor of Ron Ganut in KP Group Msg # 1420>3. KP & Vedic, >4. Western tropical, also available sideral with Lahiri Ayanamsa >5. KP & Vedic, >6. based on KPA from KSK's tables & UTOH>7. Jagannatha Hora Lite (Pandit Sanjay Rath's Study Group)>8. Prof V. K. Choudhry'a SA Study Group (Vedic for 1700-2300 only)>>>ATTENTION:>>1. SN 1 Software gives around 17d higher Asc with different Star >Lord & Sub Lord. (For other cusps more or less the same, ie same SL & >SL)>>2. For other

softwares no difference in deg-min, SL & S, except >around 30sec lower in SN 6 Software.>>3. House system is not the problem, because Asc is the same >whether Placidus, Koch or Equal is used. Something is wrong somewhere.>>>1 (b). Comparison of Moon position by using the same New KPA 22-32-10>>Sr Deg-Min-Sec Software>1. 336-20-09 Raichurs>2. 336-20-34 Solar Fire>3. 336-20-21 Astro-Kundli>4. 336-20-12 Astrodienst>5 336-20-12 Astraura>6 336-21-20 Old One>7 336-20-14 JHL>8 336-19-50 Junior Jyotish>>Not much difference except in SN 6 & 8. (For other planets more or >less the same)>>Example 2. Leonardo da Vinci, 23 April 1452, 9-40 PM LMT, UT-0.44, >Vinci, Italy, 43N47, 10E55>>For comparison the same KPA 16d-07m-15s is used.>>SN Asc D-M-S Moon D-M-S Software>1. 227-30-40 078-01-54

Raichur>2. 230-27-45 316-53-45 AstroDatabank>3. 230-31-23 316-53-51 Astrodienst>4. 230-30-53 078-04-18 Astraura>5. 238-26-01 092-20-55 Old One>6. 230-27-26 316-54-03 JHL>7. 230-32-27 316-54-10 Khaldea>>ATTENTION: SN 1, 4 & 5 sofware have gone out of line. Solar Fire >will be very useful.>>Basic Data>>SN Software Sid Time KPA >1. Raichur 11-31-41 16-07-46 >2. Astrodienst 11-47-47 16-12-57* >3. Astraura 11-47-44 16-07-19 >4. Old One 12-27-04 16-09-00 >5. JHL 11-47-27 16-07-14.65 >>* Lahiri Ayanamsa>>Good Luck!>>tw>>> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi >wrote:>> Dear Members,>> I have with me Mr.K.Subramaniam's K.P.>> Software,but after I bought and began using the>> Software developed by Shri A.R.Raichur(upto subsub>>

levels),I have found it most useful and>> simple-to-use,and Shri Raichur also provides a>> specially developed on K.P. Dasavidha Poruthams>> principles,a software for horoscope matching...which>> in my humble opinion is prhaps the best Software for>> K.P., developed so far...>> I therefore would strongly recommend>> Shri Raichur's Software...for K.P. followers...his>> e-mai ID has appeared in these columns already...>> With best wishes,I am,>> Yours sincerely,>> lyrastro1>> GOOD LUCK !>> >> >> Vaidun ji,>> >> Have a look at "Varahamihira for Windows" and "Mobile>> Kundli for>> PalmOS" by the company running this group. Both are>> designed KP>> astrologers in mind. The details are available at>> http://www.astrocamp.com.>>

>> Regards,>> >> Punit Pandey>> >> >> >> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:40:15 +1000, Vaidun Vidyadhar>> wrote:>> > Dear List Members,>> > >> > I am new to this list though I was introduced to KP>> in 1988 when I was>> > living in Madras. My introduction to vedic>> astrology was with KP. I had>> > bought all the books of Shri Krishnamurthi then and>> was very impressed with>> > his astrological skills. There are few who can>> match the phenomenal>> > accuracy of his predictions. Those days, I had to>> MANUALLY cast each chart,>> > be it natal or horary, with the help of tables and>> the ephemeris. It used>> > to take 2 hours of manual calculations to be able to>> finally arrive at the>> > table of significators. Now,

with computers, the>> same job can be done in>> > seconds. Amazing. >> > >> > I have Goravani Jyotish which has some element of KP>> in it but maybe not>> > enough. I am thinking of buying some other>> astrology program which>> > incorporates the elements of KP more fully. Can I>> request members to kindly>> > advise me as to which would be the best program for>> this. I will be much>> > obliged.>> > >> > I have always had an enduring interest in KP but was>> unable to find a>> > website or list which was fully devoted to KP, until>> now. I hope to be able>> > to learn a lot from you all and hone my KP skills. >> > >> > Thanks for your time. With best regards.>> > >> > Vaidun Vidyadhar>> > 1 / 94 Marius

Street>> > Tamworth, NSW 2340>> > Australia>> > Tel: 61-2-67 668428 (home)>> > Mobile: 0414 870 083>> > Email: vvidya@o...>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >

November 9, 2004

THERE SEEMS TO BE A MIS UNDERSTANDING. THE DIFF IN ASC POINTED OUT IS 17 minutes NOT NOT Degrees.

tw853 <tw853 wrote:

Dear All,Thank you very much for your comments.1. Pl note that the aynamsa factor has been neutralized by using only so-called "New KPA" 22d-32m-10s given by Raichur's software in the both tables 1 (a) & 1 (b) of the example 1 (KPBC1) comparing Asc and Moon positions. That is why it is not necessary to examine to decide the correctness of the ayanamsa. To make it clearer, Asc 153-09-21 by Solar Fire is deducted by 22sec (New KPA 22-32-10 minus KPA 22-31-48 used by Ron Gaunt) to get a comparable Asc position with the same New KPA. Asc 253-09-26.04 by JHL is deducted by 50.71sec (New KPA 22-32-10 minus KPA 22-31-19.29 used by JHL) to get a comparable Asc position with the same New KPA. In JHL it can be calculated directly with New KPA by entering the "Custom (user defied)" ayanamsa. In the table of example 2,

the KPA 16-07-14.65 of JHL (which is still in line) is used for all softwares. 31sec (difference between Raichur New KPA and JHL KPA) can be deducted to get Asc and Moon position with NEW KPA.2. Difference between New KPA and old KPA is 30-50sec only. The difference in Asc of KPBC1 is around 17deg (equivalent to 1h8m differnce in BOT) giving different SL, SL & SSL. Does that make any significant difference or not is the will of the person (in examining longevity, health, prarabdha mentioned in Msg #890, etc - --).3. New KPA can be acceptable since there is not much difference. It also may not be a big deal for Guruji KSK who said that "the difference between what I follow, what Lahiri (6m difference) and Rajan follow is negligible".4. Of course, the difference of 1sec in Sid. Time is due to the Ephemeris used. Astrodienst and Astro-Kundle use Swiss Ephemeris. Their results are more or less the same

but sometimes there are differences. But it's just a check point in the process of calculation. Acceptable is Kanak Bosmia's manual calculation, saying 14-39-10 matches with only Raichur's software. But how about 17 deg difference in Asc of KPBC1 and going out of line in the case of Leonardo da Vinci? It will be very interseting if manual calculations can be done. In fact, this is the only best simple way to check the results in stead of Sun calculation etc. I tried, but I couldn't because pages for ENG are not included in my photo copy of UTOH. Not much difference with positions of planets. It is understanable how equations in the software are delicate to adjust in making a balance over short and long term.5. Anyway it's good since my purpose is not to judge which software is correct, but just to let our Group members know about the software results in the short term and in the long term like the chart of Leonardo

da Vinci. Only one thing can be mentioned that Solar Fire is the one mentioned by late Lois Rodden of AsroDatabak.6. If useful, some issues on New KPA may be discussed later just for academic purpose only even though it is said that the KP ayanamsa has been modified in 2003 and all old figures in the Books do not hold good. 7. As expected less difference for youger native, for John Edawrd,10 June 1953, We, 7-02 AM, UT-5h, Seneca, Sc, 34N41, 82W57New KPA 23d-7m-0s as per Raichur for all softwares by adjustmentSoftware Asc D-M-S Mo D-M-S Su D-M-SRaichur 78-49-10 42-02-15 56-10-58AsroDatabank 78-55-00 42-03-00 56-11-00Astrodienst 78-55-29 42-02-22 56-10-31Astraura 78-55-41 42-02-36 56-10-45Old One 78-54-43 42-04-16 56-10-49JHl 78-55-43 42-02-38 56-11-05Sid. Time 23-44-22 in Raichur, ST 22-44-23 Astrodienst, ST 23-44-23 Astraura, ST 23-44-22 Old One, ST 23-44-23 JHL; New KPA 23-7-0 in

Raichur, KPA 23-6-38 Astraura, KPA 23-6 Old One, KPA 23-06-33 JHL, Lahiri 23-12-24 Astrdienst.Only around 6d difference in Asc, Monn & Sun mor or less consistent.Will be worst for forty-years-older (than Vinci) Joan of Arc, 15 Jan 1413 NS, 5 PM LMT , UT-0:23, Domremy La Pucelle, France, 48N27, 05E41; Astraura & mine Old One run on only dot matrix printer gone out of line; if interested, Raichur can be run and compared.(Sorry for not being able to clude those results due to some difficulties in running the program.)KPA 15-34-20 (JHL) for all softwares by adjustmentSoftware Asc D-M-S Mo D-M-SAstroDatabank 105-53-40 334-36-40Astrodienst 105-53-57 334-34-46Astraura 105-50-31 91-46-22Old One 113-02-40 103-45-05JHL 105-51-12 334-35-23Sid. Time 0-38-31 in Astrodienst, ST 0-38-11 Astraura, ST 23-44-22 Old One, ST 0-38-15 JHL; KPA 15-34-26 in Astraura, KPA 23-6 Old One, KPA 15-34-20 JHL,

Lahiri 15-40-07 in Astrodienst.Best regards,twP.S. Same request like Ron Gaunt for information on posting by Kanak Bosmiaji. , Yogesh Rao Lajmi wrote:> Dear tw853,> With K.P. NEW ayanamsa the ascendant sub-sub is VENUS...while with all others the asc sub-sub is Kethu...> Does that make any significant difference or not...should be examined to decide upon the correctness of the ayanamsa...?> I generally follow New K.P. ayanamsa,frankly,blindly,simply because,not only am I convinced,but, I have implicit faith in both, M.G.G.Nair,and Professor Balachandran,who has explained briefly,but convincingly how he has derived these new Ayanamsa values,in K.P. & Astrology,Magazine,2003,Annual,pp. 66-93,and reproduced in these columns by Shri Kanak Bosmiaji...> Yours sincerely,> lyrastro1> GOOD LUCK !>

> tw853 wrote:> > Dear All,> > For your attention and review a comparison of different software > results are given as follows:> > > Example 1: KPBC1, Male, 3 November 1911, Fr, 11:48 AM UT + 00.00, > Ipswich, England, 52N04, 001E10> > 1(a). Comparison of Asc position by using the same New KPA 22D-32m-> 10s as given by Raichur Software posted in KP Group.> > SN D-M-S RL-SL-S Software> 1. 253-25-31 Ju-Ve-Ve Raichurs> 2. 253-08-59 Ju-Ke-Ke Solar Fire> 3. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astro-Kundli> 4. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astrodienst> 5. 253-08-48 Ju-Ke-Ke Astraura> 6. 253-08-11 Ju-Ke-Ke Old One> 7. 253-08-36 Ju-Ke-Ke JHL> 8. 253-07-50 Ju-Ke-Ke Junior Jyotish> > Basic Data> > Sr Software Sid Time Asc D-M-S KPA> 1.Raichur 14-39-10 253-25-31 22-32-10> 2.Solar Fire 14-34-29? 153-09-21

22-31-48> 3.Astro-Kundli 253-09-10 22-31-44> 4.Astrodienst 14-39-09 275-40-45 22-37-32*> 5.Astraura 14-39-09 253-09-35.48 22-31-23 > 6.Old One 14-39-09 253-09-21 22-31> 7.JHL 14-39-09 253-09-26.04 22-31-19.29> 8.Jr Jyotish 253-03 22-37* > > * Lahiri Ayanamsa> > Differences from New KPA: 1) 0 (base), 2) –22s, 3) –26s, 4) +5m.22s, > 5) –47s, 6) –1.10, 7) –50.31s, 8) +4m.50s > > Explanations:> 1. Pl note 253-22-49 (Ju-Ve-Ve) in posting of KP Group Msg # 1410 due > to Lat 52N06 other than 52N04.> 2. Western Tropical, very close to Goravani Jyotish & Parashara > Light, as per kind favor of Ron Ganut in KP Group Msg # 1420> 3. KP & Vedic, > 4. Western tropical, also available sideral with Lahiri Ayanamsa > 5. KP & Vedic, > 6. based on KPA from KSK's tables & UTOH> 7. Jagannatha Hora Lite (Pandit Sanjay Rath's

Study Group)> 8. Prof V. K. Choudhry'a SA Study Group (Vedic for 1700-2300 only)> > > ATTENTION:> > 1. SN 1 Software gives around 17d higher Asc with different Star > Lord & Sub Lord. (For other cusps more or less the same, ie same SL & > SL)> > 2. For other softwares no difference in deg-min, SL & S, except > around 30sec lower in SN 6 Software.> > 3. House system is not the problem, because Asc is the same > whether Placidus, Koch or Equal is used. Something is wrong somewhere.> > > 1 (b). Comparison of Moon position by using the same New KPA 22-32-10> > Sr Deg-Min-Sec Software> 1. 336-20-09 Raichurs> 2. 336-20-34 Solar Fire> 3. 336-20-21 Astro-Kundli> 4. 336-20-12 Astrodienst> 5 336-20-12 Astraura> 6 336-21-20 Old One> 7 336-20-14 JHL> 8 336-19-50 Junior

Jyotish> > Not much difference except in SN 6 & 8. (For other planets more or > less the same)> > Example 2. Leonardo da Vinci, 23 April 1452, 9-40 PM LMT, UT-0.44, > Vinci, Italy, 43N47, 10E55> > For comparison the same KPA 16d-07m-15s is used.> > SN Asc D-M-S Moon D-M-S Software> 1. 227-30-40 078-01-54 Raichur> 2. 230-27-45 316-53-45 AstroDatabank> 3. 230-31-23 316-53-51 Astrodienst> 4. 230-30-53 078-04-18 Astraura> 5. 238-26-01 092-20-55 Old One> 6. 230-27-26 316-54-03 JHL> 7. 230-32-27 316-54-10 Khaldea> > ATTENTION: SN 1, 4 & 5 sofware have gone out of line. Solar Fire > will be very useful.> > Basic Data> > SN Software Sid Time KPA > 1. Raichur 11-31-41 16-07-46 > 2. Astrodienst 11-47-47 16-12-57* > 3. Astraura 11-47-44 16-07-19 > 4. Old One 12-27-04 16-09-00 > 5. JHL

11-47-27 16-07-14.65 > > * Lahiri Ayanamsa> > Good Luck!> > tw> > > , Yogesh Rao Lajmi > wrote:> > Dear Members,> > I have with me Mr.K.Subramaniam's K.P.> > Software,but after I bought and began using the> > Software developed by Shri A.R.Raichur(upto subsub> > levels),I have found it most useful and> > simple-to-use,and Shri Raichur also provides a> > specially developed on K.P. Dasavidha Poruthams> > principles,a software for horoscope matching...which> > in my humble opinion is prhaps the best Software for> > K.P., developed so far...> > I therefore would strongly recommend> > Shri Raichur's Software...for K.P. followers...his> > e-mai ID has appeared in these columns already...> > With best wishes,I am,> >

Yours sincerely,> > lyrastro1> > GOOD LUCK !> > > > > > Vaidun ji,> > > > Have a look at "Varahamihira for Windows" and "Mobile> > Kundli for> > PalmOS" by the company running this group. Both are> > designed KP> > astrologers in mind. The details are available at> > http://www.astrocamp.com.> > > > Regards,> > > > Punit Pandey> > > > > > > > On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:40:15 +1000, Vaidun Vidyadhar> > wrote:> > > Dear List Members,> > > > > > I am new to this list though I was introduced to KP> > in 1988 when I was> > > living in Madras. My introduction to vedic> > astrology was with KP. I had> > > bought all the books of Shri Krishnamurthi then

and> > was very impressed with> > > his astrological skills. There are few who can> > match the phenomenal> > > accuracy of his predictions. Those days, I had to> > MANUALLY cast each chart,> > > be it natal or horary, with the help of tables and> > the ephemeris. It used> > > to take 2 hours of manual calculations to be able to> > finally arrive at the> > > table of significators. Now, with computers, the> > same job can be done in> > > seconds. Amazing. > > > > > > I have Goravani Jyotish which has some element of KP> > in it but maybe not> > > enough. I am thinking of buying some other> > astrology program which> > > incorporates the elements of KP more fully. Can I> > request members to kindly> > > advise me as to which would be the best program

for> > this. I will be much> > > obliged.> > > > > > I have always had an enduring interest in KP but was> > unable to find a> > > website or list which was fully devoted to KP, until> > now. I hope to be able> > > to learn a lot from you all and hone my KP skills. > > > > > > Thanks for your time. With best regards.> > > > > > Vaidun Vidyadhar> > > 1 / 94 Marius Street> > > Tamworth, NSW 2340> > > Australia> > > Tel: 61-2-67 668428 (home)> > > Mobile: 0414 870 083> > > Email: vvidya@o...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

November 9, 2004

Dear Ron,

The entire list of the new Ayanamsas,have been reproduced by Shri Bosmia in k_p_...some only a few days ago...However the list is available in the 2003 Annual of K.P. & Astrology,pp 92-93.

If I can retrieve the list I shall mail it to you...

With best wishes,

lyrastro1

GOOD LUCK !

rongaunt <rongaunt wrote:

Yogesh,When you state " reproduced in these columns by Shri KanakBosmiaji", I am not certain whether you infer that the documentis reproduced in the magazine or this List. If it is this Listdo you have the date of the posting? ThanksRon GauntOn Mon, 08 Nov 2004 06:28:39 +0000, you wrote:>Dear tw853,> With K.P. NEW ayanamsa the ascendant sub-sub is VENUS...while with all others the asc sub-sub is Kethu...> Does that make any significant difference or not...should be examined to decide upon the correctness of the

ayanamsa...?> I generally follow New K.P. ayanamsa,frankly,blindly,simply because,not only am I convinced,but, I have implicit faith in both, M.G.G.Nair,and Professor Balachandran,who has explained briefly,but convincingly how he has derived these new Ayanamsa values,in K.P. & Astrology,Magazine,2003,Annual,pp. 66-93,and reproduced in these columns by Shri Kanak Bosmiaji...> Yours sincerely,> lyrastro1> GOOD LUCK !>>tw853 <tw853 wrote:>>Dear

All,>>For your attention and review a comparison of different software >results are given as follows:>>>Example 1: KPBC1, Male, 3 November 1911, Fr, 11:48 AM UT + 00.00, >Ipswich, England, 52N04, 001E10>>1(a). Comparison of Asc position by using the same New KPA 22D-32m->10s as given by Raichur Software posted in KP Group.>>SN D-M-S RL-SL-S Software>1. 253-25-31 Ju-Ve-Ve Raichurs>2. 253-08-59

Ju-Ke-Ke Solar Fire>3. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astro-Kundli>4. 253-08-44 Ju-Ke-Ke Astrodienst>5. 253-08-48 Ju-Ke-Ke Astraura>6. 253-08-11 Ju-Ke-Ke Old One>7.

253-08-36 Ju-Ke-Ke JHL>8. 253-07-50 Ju-Ke-Ke Junior Jyotish>>Basic Data>>Sr Software Sid Time Asc D-M-S KPA>1.Raichur 14-39-10 253-25-31 22-32-10>2.Solar Fire 14-34-29? 153-09-21 22-31-48>3.Astro-Kundli

253-09-10 22-31-44>4.Astrodienst 14-39-09 275-40-45 22-37-32*>5.Astraura 14-39-09 253-09-35.48 22-31-23 >6.Old One 14-39-09 253-09-21 22-31>7.JHL 14-39-09 253-09-26.04 22-31-19.29>8.Jr Jyotish 253-03 22-37* >>* Lahiri

Ayanamsa>>Differences from New KPA: 1) 0 (base), 2) –22s, 3) –26s, 4) +5m.22s, >5) –47s, 6) –1.10, 7) –50.31s, 8) +4m.50s >>Explanations:>1. Pl note 253-22-49 (Ju-Ve-Ve) in posting of KP Group Msg # 1410 due >to Lat 52N06 other than 52N04.>2. Western Tropical, very close to Goravani Jyotish & Parashara >Light, as per kind favor of Ron Ganut in KP Group Msg # 1420>3. KP & Vedic, >4. Western tropical, also available sideral with Lahiri Ayanamsa >5. KP & Vedic, >6. based on KPA from KSK's tables & UTOH>7. Jagannatha Hora Lite (Pandit Sanjay Rath's Study Group)>8. Prof V. K. Choudhry'a SA Study Group (Vedic for 1700-2300 only)>>>ATTENTION:>>1. SN 1 Software gives around 17d higher Asc with different Star >Lord & Sub Lord. (For other cusps more or less the same, ie same

SL & >SL)>>2. For other softwares no difference in deg-min, SL & S, except >around 30sec lower in SN 6 Software.>>3. House system is not the problem, because Asc is the same >whether Placidus, Koch or Equal is used. Something is wrong somewhere.>>>1 (b). Comparison of Moon position by using the same New KPA 22-32-10>>Sr Deg-Min-Sec Software>1. 336-20-09 Raichurs>2. 336-20-34 Solar Fire>3. 336-20-21

Astro-Kundli>4. 336-20-12 Astrodienst>5 336-20-12 Astraura>6 336-21-20 Old One>7 336-20-14 JHL>8 336-19-50 Junior Jyotish>>Not much difference except in SN 6 & 8. (For other planets more or >less the same)>>Example 2. Leonardo da Vinci, 23 April 1452, 9-40 PM LMT, UT-0.44, >Vinci, Italy, 43N47, 10E55>>For comparison the same KPA 16d-07m-15s is used.>>SN Asc

D-M-S Moon D-M-S Software>1. 227-30-40 078-01-54 Raichur>2. 230-27-45 316-53-45 AstroDatabank>3. 230-31-23 316-53-51 Astrodienst>4. 230-30-53 078-04-18

Astraura>5. 238-26-01 092-20-55 Old One>6. 230-27-26 316-54-03 JHL>7. 230-32-27 316-54-10 Khaldea>>ATTENTION: SN 1, 4 & 5 sofware have gone out of line. Solar Fire >will be very useful.>>Basic Data>>SN Software Sid Time KPA >1.

Raichur 11-31-41 16-07-46 >2. Astrodienst 11-47-47 16-12-57* >3. Astraura 11-47-44 16-07-19 >4. Old One 12-27-04 16-09-00 >5. JHL

11-47-27 16-07-14.65 >>* Lahiri Ayanamsa>>Good Luck!>>tw>>> , Yogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1> >wrote:>> Dear Members,>> I have with me Mr.K.Subramaniam's K.P.>> Software,but after I bought and began using the>> Software developed by Shri A.R.Raichur(upto subsub>> levels),I have found it most useful and>> simple-to-use,and Shri Raichur also provides a>> specially developed on K.P. Dasavidha Poruthams>> principles,a software for horoscope matching...which>> in my humble opinion is prhaps the best Software for>> K.P., developed so

far...>> I therefore would strongly recommend>> Shri Raichur's Software...for K.P. followers...his>> e-mai ID has appeared in these columns already...>> With best wishes,I am,>> Yours sincerely,>> lyrastro1>> GOOD LUCK !>> >> >> Vaidun ji,>> >> Have a look at "Varahamihira for Windows" and "Mobile>> Kundli for>> PalmOS" by the company running this group. Both are>>

designed KP>> astrologers in mind. The details are available at>> http://www.astrocamp.com.>> >> Regards,>> >> Punit Pandey>> >> >> >> On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:40:15 +1000, Vaidun Vidyadhar>> <vvidya@o...> wrote:>> > Dear List Members,>> > >> > I am new to this list though I was introduced to KP>> in 1988 when I was>> > living in Madras. My introduction to vedic>> astrology was with KP. I had>> > bought all the books of Shri Krishnamurthi then and>> was very impressed with>> > his astrological skills. There are few who can>> match the phenomenal>> > accuracy of his predictions. Those days, I had to>> MANUALLY cast each chart,>> > be it natal or horary,

with the help of tables and>> the ephemeris. It used>> > to take 2 hours of manual calculations to be able to>> finally arrive at the>> > table of significators. Now, with computers, the>> same job can be done in>> > seconds. Amazing. >> > >> > I have Goravani Jyotish which has some element of KP>> in it but maybe not>> > enough. I am thinking of buying some other>> astrology program which>> > incorporates the elements of KP more fully. Can I>> request members to kindly>> > advise me as to which would be the best program for>> this. I will be much>> > obliged.>> > >> > I have always had an enduring interest in KP but was>> unable to find a>> > website or list which was fully devoted to KP, until>>

now. I hope to be able>> > to learn a lot from you all and hone my KP skills. >> > >> > Thanks for your time. With best regards.>> > >> > Vaidun Vidyadhar>> > 1 / 94 Marius Street>> > Tamworth, NSW 2340>> > Australia>> > Tel: 61-2-67 668428 (home)>> > Mobile: 0414 870 083>> > Email: vvidya@o...>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >

November 9, 2004

Dear friends,

Good wishes to all group members on the occassion of happy and very very luminous DEEPAWALI.

Friends, may I know the exact address of bookstalls in Delhi,India,where K P Annuals and magazines are available.Hope you will respond me soon.Thanks.

With regards,

Ramesh MishraYogesh Rao Lajmi <lyrastro1 wrote: