Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Dear All, 1. There are three points to note in Original KPA (OKPA): (1) Year of coincidence of both Sayana and Nirayana zodiacs --- 291; (2) Annual precession rate ---- 50.2388475 as given by NEWCOMB; (3) Table of OKPA for 1840-2000, and later added up to 2040. 2. Sri K. Hariharan mentioned and used in his 1993 " Notable Persons & KP " , p 75, 138 & 153: (1) Ayanamsa for 1-4-1900 is 22d28m10.1535s as per the Univerasl Tables of Houses; (2) As per modern astronomy the rate of precession (in the UTOH) for the year 1900 is 50.2564sec; (3) The rate of precession itself is increasing at the rate of 0.000222sec per year (4) KPA = 80890.1535s + 50.2564 n + 0.000111 n*n Equation (1) In easier form, 80890.1535s + n (50.2564 + 0.000111 n) Equation (2) where 80890.1535s is for 22d28m10.1535s n = birth year - 1900 Note: (1) 22-28-10 for is much higher than 22-22 in table of OKPA; ---- Could someone check with UTOH and explain why so high ?? (2) two kinds of yearly increase rate in annual precession rate: 0.000111 & 0.000222 (3) not calculated in comparison due to a significant difference. 3. Dr. Jagdish Maheshri gives the following formula in his 1997 " It's All in Timing " , p 31: Correction Factor = 22.3666d + Tx (50.2564 + 0.0222 x T) /36 Equation (3) where T= (birth year – 1900)/100 It can be changed to the following easier form: MKPA = 22.3666 + d (50.2564 + 0.000222d)/ 3600 Equation (4) where MKPA = Maheshri KPA d = birth year – 1900 3600 is for conversion from second to degree Note: (1) This MKPA is very closed to OKPA with sec potion and 22.3666m is equal to 22d22m for 1900 as given in the table of OKPA. (2) MKPA for 291 + -0.2549, nearly zero 4. A very SIMPLE formula can be used a s follows: SKPA = D 50.055sec Equation (5) where SKPA = Simple KPA D = birth yaer – 291 5. Mr. Anant Raichur on New KP Aynamsa : The KP ayanamsa has been modified. in 2003. All old figures in the Books do not hold good.. The latest KP Ayanamsa ,as now accepted, can be calculated from the following formula; This is the Ayanamsa on 1st Jan of the year: PY=X4-1900: X4 IS THE REQD CALENDER YEAR AYAN=22+(1335+PY*PY*50.2388475)+PY*PY*0.000111/3600 Equation (6) This is in degrees and decimals thereof. For other months add roughly 4 seconds per month It should be PY*50.2388475, not PY*PY*50.2388475. In easier form, NKPA = 22.3708 + d (50.2388475 + 0.000111 d)/3600 Equation (7) where NKPA = New KPA D = birth year – 1900 CACULATED KPAs (D-M-S) APPLYING ABOVE EQUATIONS Year OKPA MKPA SKPA NKPA 1840 21-31 21-31-43 21-32-15 21-32-09 1900 22-22 22-22 22-22-18 22-2-15 1940 22-55 22-55-30 22-55-41 22-55-44 2000 23-46 23-45-48 33-45-44 23-45-58 2040 24-19 24-19-20 24-19-06 24-19-30 AVR 50.4 50.285 50.26 50.205 AVR = Average Yearly increase Rate over 200 years NKPA HIGHER THAN OTHER KPAs (M-S) Year OKPA MKPA SKPA 1840 1-09 0-26 -0-06 1900 0-15 0-15 -0-03 1940 0-44 0-14 0-03 2000 -0-02 0-10 0-14 2040 0-30 0-10 0-24 Note: (1) NKPA is 0-0-12 (almost zero) for the base year 291 as taken by KSK. (2) 50.2388475 is NEWCOMB annual precession rate as mentioned by KSK; (3) 0.000111 yearly increase rate in annual precession rate is used by Sri K. Hariharan and also in calculation of Lahiri Ayanamsa, not a new one. (4) Of course, average annual precession rate is the same as mentioned. But not much differences between NKPA and other KPAs, particularly MKPA, 10s to 26s only. How close for the year 2000. (5) Fine tuning up to DOB is also just nterpolation. WHAT IS NEW IN NEW KPA? Best regards, tw P.S. " In Comparing Ayanamsa: The case of Rabindranath Tagore " , Pandit Sanjay Rath concludes that " it is obvious from the above discussion that the Lahiri Ayanamsa is the closest to the truth, but at places this seemed to be a bit weak. The real Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. " May be KPA ? which is not included in his study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 deepawali ke es ustav se aapko apki bibi ko jaylalita itne gahane, joote, saria, bill gates ki daulat , gates jaisa ghar dhirbhai ka takdir, sonia ki kurbani , laden jaisa fast dimag uma bharati ka daring, mahajan ki kutniti , saath me aur apka 1/- wala vital communication 25/- ho hotel leela jaisi 200 cr ki lottery laga de aisi aapko aur apke family aur freinds ko shubhkamana - " tw853 " <tw853 Friday, November 12, 2004 11:42 AM WHAT IS NEW IN NEW KPA FORMULAR? Dear All, 1. There are three points to note in Original KPA (OKPA): (1) Year of coincidence of both Sayana and Nirayana zodiacs --- 291; (2) Annual precession rate ---- 50.2388475 as given by NEWCOMB; (3) Table of OKPA for 1840-2000, and later added up to 2040. 2. Sri K. Hariharan mentioned and used in his 1993 " Notable Persons & KP " , p 75, 138 & 153: (1) Ayanamsa for 1-4-1900 is 22d28m10.1535s as per the Univerasl Tables of Houses; (2) As per modern astronomy the rate of precession (in the UTOH) for the year 1900 is 50.2564sec; (3) The rate of precession itself is increasing at the rate of 0.000222sec per year (4) KPA = 80890.1535s + 50.2564 n + 0.000111 n*n Equation (1) In easier form, 80890.1535s + n (50.2564 + 0.000111 n) Equation (2) where 80890.1535s is for 22d28m10.1535s n = birth year - 1900 Note: (1) 22-28-10 for is much higher than 22-22 in table of OKPA; ---- Could someone check with UTOH and explain why so high ?? (2) two kinds of yearly increase rate in annual precession rate: 0.000111 & 0.000222 (3) not calculated in comparison due to a significant difference. 3. Dr. Jagdish Maheshri gives the following formula in his 1997 " It's All in Timing " , p 31: Correction Factor = 22.3666d + Tx (50.2564 + 0.0222 x T) /36 Equation (3) where T= (birth year - 1900)/100 It can be changed to the following easier form: MKPA = 22.3666 + d (50.2564 + 0.000222d)/ 3600 Equation (4) where MKPA = Maheshri KPA d = birth year - 1900 3600 is for conversion from second to degree Note: (1) This MKPA is very closed to OKPA with sec potion and 22.3666m is equal to 22d22m for 1900 as given in the table of OKPA. (2) MKPA for 291 + -0.2549, nearly zero 4. A very SIMPLE formula can be used a s follows: SKPA = D 50.055sec Equation (5) where SKPA = Simple KPA D = birth yaer - 291 5. Mr. Anant Raichur on New KP Aynamsa : The KP ayanamsa has been modified. in 2003. All old figures in the Books do not hold good.. The latest KP Ayanamsa ,as now accepted, can be calculated from the following formula; This is the Ayanamsa on 1st Jan of the year: PY=X4-1900: X4 IS THE REQD CALENDER YEAR AYAN=22+(1335+PY*PY*50.2388475)+PY*PY*0.000111/3600 Equation (6) This is in degrees and decimals thereof. For other months add roughly 4 seconds per month It should be PY*50.2388475, not PY*PY*50.2388475. In easier form, NKPA = 22.3708 + d (50.2388475 + 0.000111 d)/3600 Equation (7) where NKPA = New KPA D = birth year - 1900 CACULATED KPAs (D-M-S) APPLYING ABOVE EQUATIONS Year OKPA MKPA SKPA NKPA 1840 21-31 21-31-43 21-32-15 21-32-09 1900 22-22 22-22 22-22-18 22-2-15 1940 22-55 22-55-30 22-55-41 22-55-44 2000 23-46 23-45-48 33-45-44 23-45-58 2040 24-19 24-19-20 24-19-06 24-19-30 AVR 50.4 50.285 50.26 50.205 AVR = Average Yearly increase Rate over 200 years NKPA HIGHER THAN OTHER KPAs (M-S) Year OKPA MKPA SKPA 1840 1-09 0-26 -0-06 1900 0-15 0-15 -0-03 1940 0-44 0-14 0-03 2000 -0-02 0-10 0-14 2040 0-30 0-10 0-24 Note: (1) NKPA is 0-0-12 (almost zero) for the base year 291 as taken by KSK. (2) 50.2388475 is NEWCOMB annual precession rate as mentioned by KSK; (3) 0.000111 yearly increase rate in annual precession rate is used by Sri K. Hariharan and also in calculation of Lahiri Ayanamsa, not a new one. (4) Of course, average annual precession rate is the same as mentioned. But not much differences between NKPA and other KPAs, particularly MKPA, 10s to 26s only. How close for the year 2000. (5) Fine tuning up to DOB is also just nterpolation. WHAT IS NEW IN NEW KPA? Best regards, tw P.S. " In Comparing Ayanamsa: The case of Rabindranath Tagore " , Pandit Sanjay Rath concludes that " it is obvious from the above discussion that the Lahiri Ayanamsa is the closest to the truth, but at places this seemed to be a bit weak. The real Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa. " May be KPA ? which is not included in his study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Dear Raju, Aapko ham-sab se shukriya... lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK !raju bokaariya <bhr_rbokariya wrote: deepawali ke es ustav se aapko apki bibi ko jaylalita itne gahane, joote, saria,bill gates ki daulat , gates jaisa ghar dhirbhai ka takdir, sonia ki kurbani , laden jaisa fast dimaguma bharati ka daring, mahajan ki kutniti , saath me aur apka 1/- wala vital communication 25/- ho hotel leela jaisi 200 cr ki lottery laga de aisi aapko aur apke family aur freinds ko shubhkamana - "tw853" <tw853Friday, November 12, 2004 11:42 AM WHAT IS NEW IN NEW KPA FORMULAR?Dear All,1. There are three points to note in Original KPA (OKPA):(1) Year of coincidence of both Sayana and Nirayana zodiacs --- 291;(2) Annual precession rate ---- 50.2388475 as given by NEWCOMB; (3) Table of OKPA for 1840-2000, and later added up to 2040. 2. Sri K. Hariharan mentioned and used in his 1993 "Notable Persons & KP", p 75, 138 & 153:(1) Ayanamsa for 1-4-1900 is 22d28m10.1535s as per the Univerasl Tables of Houses;(2) As per modern astronomy the rate of precession (in the UTOH) for the year 1900 is 50.2564sec; (3) The rate of precession itself is increasing at the rate of 0.000222sec per year (4) KPA = 80890.1535s + 50.2564 n + 0.000111 n*n Equation (1)In easier form,80890.1535s + n (50.2564 + 0.000111 n) Equation (2)where 80890.1535s is for 22d28m10.1535sn = birth year - 1900 Note: (1) 22-28-10 for is much higher than 22-22 in table of OKPA; ---- Could someone check with UTOH and explain why so high ??(2) two kinds of yearly increase rate in annual precession rate: 0.000111 & 0.000222 (3) not calculated in comparison due to a significant difference. 3. Dr. Jagdish Maheshri gives the following formula in his 1997 "It's All in Timing", p 31:Correction Factor = 22.3666d + Tx (50.2564 + 0.0222 x T) /36 Equation (3)where T= (birth year - 1900)/100It can be changed to the following easier form:MKPA = 22.3666 + d (50.2564 + 0.000222d)/ 3600 Equation (4)where MKPA = Maheshri KPA d = birth year - 1900 3600 is for conversion from second to degreeNote: (1) This MKPA is very closed to OKPA with sec potion and 22.3666m is equal to 22d22m for 1900 as given in the table of OKPA. (2) MKPA for 291 + -0.2549, nearly zero4. A very SIMPLE formula can be used as follows:SKPA = D 50.055sec Equation (5)where SKPA = Simple KPA D = birth yaer - 2915. Mr. Anant Raichur on New KP Aynamsa :The KP ayanamsa has been modified. in 2003. All old figures in the Books do not hold good.. The latest KP Ayanamsa ,as now accepted, can be calculated from the following formula;This is the Ayanamsa on 1st Jan of the year:PY=X4-1900: X4 IS THE REQD CALENDER YEARAYAN=22+(1335+PY*PY*50.2388475)+PY*PY*0.000111/3600 Equation (6)This is in degrees and decimals thereof. For other months add roughly 4 seconds per monthIt should be PY*50.2388475, not PY*PY*50.2388475. In easier form,NKPA = 22.3708 + d (50.2388475 + 0.000111 d)/3600 Equation (7)where NKPA = New KPA D = birth year - 1900CACULATED KPAs (D-M-S) APPLYING ABOVE EQUATIONSYear OKPA MKPA SKPA NKPA1840 21-31 21-31-43 21-32-15 21-32-091900 22-22 22-22 22-22-18 22-2-151940 22-55 22-55-30 22-55-41 22-55-442000 23-46 23-45-48 33-45-44 23-45-582040 24-19 24-19-20 24-19-06 24-19-30AVR 50.4 50.285 50.26 50.205AVR = Average Yearly increase Rate over 200 yearsNKPA HIGHER THAN OTHER KPAs (M-S)Year OKPA MKPA SKPA1840 1-09 0-26 -0-061900 0-15 0-15 -0-031940 0-44 0-14 0-032000 -0-02 0-10 0-142040 0-30 0-10 0-24Note: (1) NKPA is 0-0-12 (almost zero) for the base year 291 as taken by KSK. (2) 50.2388475 is NEWCOMB annual precession rate as mentioned by KSK;(3) 0.000111 yearly increase rate in annual precession rate is used by Sri K. Hariharan and also in calculation of Lahiri Ayanamsa, not a new one.(4) Of course, average annual precession rate is the same as mentioned. But not much differences between NKPA and other KPAs, particularly MKPA, 10s to 26s only. How close for the year 2000.(5) Fine tuning up to DOB is also just nterpolation.WHAT IS NEW IN NEW KPA?Best regards,tw P.S. "In Comparing Ayanamsa: The case of Rabindranath Tagore", Pandit Sanjay Rath concludes that "it is obvious from the above discussion that the Lahiri Ayanamsa is the closest to the truth, but at places this seemed to be a bit weak. The real Ayanamsa should be between the Lahiri and Raman Ayanamsa."May be KPA ? which is not included in his study. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 The formula given by me, is not correctly reproduced. It should be as verified from my sent copy PY=X4-1900: X4 IS THE REQD CALENDER YEARAYAN=22+(1335+PY*50.2388475)+PY*PY*0.000111/3600 where where X4 is calender Year. While the controversy of the Correct Ayanamsa was going on, in the UTOH, the aynamsa adopted was really laheri's, though not so stated. Hence that 6ms diff. Regarding rate of change, KP followers have adopted the NEWCOMB figure, and not of the Modern astronomers. tw853 <tw853 wrote: --------- A.R.Raichur bombayanant_1608 raichuranant USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLYtel: 022-2506 2609 --------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2004 Report Share Posted November 12, 2004 Dear Anant Raichur, Firstly, my sincere apology for not verifing the formula given by you. (1) I don't mean something not correct. Of course, if not correct, right comparable results can not be get. (2)It was pasted directly from Msg# 1163 of our KP Group. (3)Not mentioned about the formular in your Msg #1285 which gives very helpful information. (4)Would be grateful if Msg number for your sent copy is mentined for further study. (5)This is a very basic common astrological equation like 1+2 =3. (6)In the original Maheshri's equation also a typing error of " minus " sign in place of " plus " sign between 22.3666d and Tx (50.25.....), and the correct one is represented. Do I need to very? Secondly, I really thank you very much for explaining that Lahiri Ayanamsa is used in the UTOF. On the basis of Lahiri Ayanamsa for the year 1900 --- 22d-27m-55s, annual precession rate of 48sec for that year, fine tuning for 91 days up to 1-4-1900 to be comparable with Sri K. Hariharan's 22d-28m- 10.1535s figure, a simple interpolation gives 22d-28m-07s which is very close to SKH's figure. Thirdly, as noted in my presentation, the NEWCOMB figure recommended by Guruji KSK is used in the NKPA formula. Fourthly, that is why I'm wodering --- WHAT IS NEW IN NEW KPA FORMULAR? Once again my sincere apology and thanks. With my respect and wishes, tw , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > The formula given by me, is not correctly reproduced. > > It should be as verified from my sent copy > > > PY=X4-1900: X4 IS THE REQD CALENDER YEAR > AYAN=22+(1335+PY*50.2388475)+PY*PY*0.000111/3600 where > where X4 is calender Year. > > While the controversy of the Correct Ayanamsa was going on, in the UTOH, the aynamsa adopted was really laheri's, though not so stated. Hence that 6ms diff. > > Regarding rate of change, KP followers have adopted the NEWCOMB figure, and not of the Modern astronomers. > > > tw853 <tw853> wrote: > > --------- > A.R.Raichur bombay > anant_1608 > raichuranant > USE ONE OF THESE ADDRESS ES ONLY > tel: 022-2506 2609 > --------- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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