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Dear tw,

 

Please see comments ** ............ **

 

Ron Gaunt

 

 

 

 

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:12:59 -0000, you wrote:

 

>

>

>Dear subashreeraghunath,

>

>

>1. You're absolutely correct. That is the demonstration example of

>Guruji KSK, after crowing that finding of the sub theory makes him

>crown, in (a) KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, pp 139-144; (b) KP Reader

>V, 1983, pp 139-144; © KP Reader VI, 1978, pp 83-87, which I've

>quoted several times in my postings.

>

>2. Birth details given by KSK are 28-1-1928, 7-06 PM, 13-04 N, 80-15

>E. The only negligible difference in KPBC6 is TOB 7-07 PM. There is a

>typing error of DOB 28-1-1921 in KP Reader VI.

 

>3. Date of mother's death is 27-4-47 in KP Readers (same as for

>KPBC6) and marriage on 6-7-47 in KP Readers. May be another one

>after cancellation on 27-4-47. Let us wait for response from Ron

>Gaunt.

 

** Yes, I took the example from Reader VI. I worked out the

date of birth from the planets positions. Regarding the

one minute difference the best fit for my computer settings

suggested 7:07pm and I thought there might have been

another typographical error (as there are many in the

books). Anyhow, this negligible change does not effect

the outcomes. **

>

>4. 27-4-47 is during the dasa sequence of Ven/Mer/Sat/Jup/Ven

>clearly indicating 12,5,10,3 houses: Bhadaka, Maraka, Mosha for

>mother's death, which is also consistent with transit and Ketu

>destroying the 4th house matters where it located through agent

>Saturn and inner or outer (both by KSK by saying inner in one place

>and outer in another place) planet Mars.

>

>5. What I've been wondering is " what is the role of 6th house " which

>is indicated by " all dasa " levels from 1st to 5th.

 

** A possible explanation for this 6th house involvement is

resident Sun.

 

Sun is in the Star of Moon which is Badhaka for mother

being Lord of Cancer (9th House to 4th). Sun is in the Sub

of Jupiter - Maraka for mother being 2nd from 4th. Hence

Sun is indicator of death of mother. (interesting that

all the relevant dasa levels are involved here. I hadn't

noticed that)

 

Natal Sun was exactly opposed by Solar Eclipse Saturn

which is in its own Star and Sub of Jupiter. These are

1st and 2nd Class Malefic significators for the 4th House of

mother. In my opinion this configuration was one of the

prime instigators of his mother's death. Note SE Saturn was

extremely powerful having just gone stationary retrograde

on 21st Nov 1946 two days before the eclipse. Saturn only

went direct on the 5th April 1947 so death was not

indicated before this date.

 

Later Saturn moved on by transit to aspect natal Jupiter on

the day of the mother's death 27th April 47. Jupiter is

extremely malefic maraka for mother. **

>

>

>Best regards,

>

>tw

>

>

>

> , " subashreeraghunath "

><subashreeraghunath> wrote:

>>

>> Dear Respected Members,

>>

>> I am a new member of this group. Hello to everyone.

>> I am a student of astrology and KP only for 6 months. I would like

>to

>> draw the attention of the learned members regarding KPBC6.The same

>> Chart has been discussed in detail by Shri.K.S.K in his 3rd Reader

>> pages146-150(edition2004).

>>

>> Mothers death-11-4-47; date of marriage 6-7-1947.

>>

>> with regards

>> subashree raghunath

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear tw,

 

Please see ** ..................... **

 

 

Ron Gaunt

 

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:08:29 -0000, you wrote:

 

>

>

>Dear Ron Gaunt,

>

>1. It's interesting what is wrong with given TOB 7-06 PM to change

>to 7-07 PM, why is better by changing one minute, what is another

>typographical error in this Guruji KSK's demonstration example in his

>three Readers and why such example with errors is taken as KPBC6.

 

** I wasn't aware that this case was in two other Readers. The

change by a minute was simply to get a better fit with the

given angles. As I said it did not make any difference to

the outcomes. Whilst there was an error in the date in the

book, simply checking the planetary positions told me that

the chart was valid. As we can see with 60% of the

respondents getting the correct answer, the BC and the

interest it generated shows it was a worthwhile exercise.

I have asked members to present data for BCs direct to me

but only one member has submitted so far. **

>

>2. 12,5,10,3 houses of the native are 9(Bhadaka), 2(Maraka), 7

>(Maraka), 12 (Mosha/death) house for mother as per KP. What I'm

>wondering is the effect of so significant 6th house of the native on

>himself since it is not among the most death inflicting houses for

>his mother.

 

** The Sun in the 6th House is karaka for the native as Lord of

the Lagna. Sun's Star Lord is Moon ruler of the 12th

house of loss. As I explained the Sun by Star and Sub

Lords show Bandakha and Maraka for mother. So Sun for the

native shows loss of mother. **

 

>3. KPBC6's 7th sublord is Mercury, 11th lord and marriage is

>promised. It may be worthy to note in predicting time of marriage

>how marriage significators over rule the marriage denying

>significators of 1,6, 10 houses and married on 6-7-1947 after two and

>half months of mother's death.

 

** Mercury as 7th House sub, is the sub of planet Saturn. Sub

Saturn gives the go ahead as significator of 7 and 11.

For those who might consider the marriage tie as being 8H,

Saturn is also significator. Jupiter is close conjunct

Uranus and both are significators of 7 and 8H. Jupiter

and Uranus are in the star of Saturn significators of

7 and 8H.

In the last Solar Eclipse before marriage SE Ketu came

exact trine to natal Jupiter activating 7th and 8th house

significators. At the same time SE Jupiter came exact

(within 1') trine aspect to 8th Cusp. On the marriage

day Ketu had move on to exactly aspect natal Uranus.

Uranus is in the Star of Saturn and Sub of Ketu. As

Ketu is stronger than Saturn in their conjunction, this

could be read as Saturn Saturn.

If we look at the dasas for marriage they were

Venus Ketu Venus. Venus is in the Star of Ketu.

As we can substitute Saturn for Ketu the dasas can

be read as Saturn Saturn Saturn. As Saturn is

significators for marriage tie - houses 7 (8) and 11

this seems to be a lot stronger than the denial

of marriage in 6H by Mercury (and Saturn).

 

 

>

>Best regards,

>

>tw

>

>

> , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>>

>> Dear tw,

>>

>> Please see comments ** ............ **

>>

>> Ron Gaunt

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:12:59 -0000, you wrote:

>>

>> >

>> >

>> >Dear subashreeraghunath,

>> >

>> >

>> >1. You're absolutely correct. That is the demonstration example

>of

>> >Guruji KSK, after crowing that finding of the sub theory makes him

>> >crown, in (a) KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, pp 139-144; (b) KP

>Reader

>> >V, 1983, pp 139-144; © KP Reader VI, 1978, pp 83-87, which I've

>> >quoted several times in my postings.

>> >

>> >2. Birth details given by KSK are 28-1-1928, 7-06 PM, 13-04 N, 80-

>15

>> >E. The only negligible difference in KPBC6 is TOB 7-07 PM. There

>is a

>> >typing error of DOB 28-1-1921 in KP Reader VI.

>>

>> >3. Date of mother's death is 27-4-47 in KP Readers (same as for

>> >KPBC6) and marriage on 6-7-47 in KP Readers. May be another one

>> >after cancellation on 27-4-47. Let us wait for response from Ron

>> >Gaunt.

>>

>> ** Yes, I took the example from Reader VI. I worked out the

>> date of birth from the planets positions. Regarding the

>> one minute difference the best fit for my computer settings

>> suggested 7:07pm and I thought there might have been

>> another typographical error (as there are many in the

>> books). Anyhow, this negligible change does not effect

>> the outcomes. **

>> >

>> >4. 27-4-47 is during the dasa sequence of Ven/Mer/Sat/Jup/Ven

>> >clearly indicating 12,5,10,3 houses: Bhadaka, Maraka, Mosha for

>> >mother's death, which is also consistent with transit and Ketu

>> >destroying the 4th house matters where it located through agent

>> >Saturn and inner or outer (both by KSK by saying inner in one

>place

>> >and outer in another place) planet Mars.

>> >

>> >5. What I've been wondering is " what is the role of 6th house "

>which

>> >is indicated by " all dasa " levels from 1st to 5th.

>>

>> ** A possible explanation for this 6th house involvement is

>> resident Sun.

>>

>> Sun is in the Star of Moon which is Badhaka for mother

>> being Lord of Cancer (9th House to 4th). Sun is in the Sub

>> of Jupiter - Maraka for mother being 2nd from 4th. Hence

>> Sun is indicator of death of mother. (interesting that

>> all the relevant dasa levels are involved here. I hadn't

>> noticed that)

>>

>> Natal Sun was exactly opposed by Solar Eclipse Saturn

>> which is in its own Star and Sub of Jupiter. These are

>> 1st and 2nd Class Malefic significators for the 4th House of

>> mother. In my opinion this configuration was one of the

>> prime instigators of his mother's death. Note SE Saturn was

>> extremely powerful having just gone stationary retrograde

>> on 21st Nov 1946 two days before the eclipse. Saturn only

>> went direct on the 5th April 1947 so death was not

>> indicated before this date.

>>

>> Later Saturn moved on by transit to aspect natal Jupiter on

>> the day of the mother's death 27th April 47. Jupiter is

>> extremely malefic maraka for mother. **

>> >

>> >

>> >Best regards,

>> >

>> >tw

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> > , " subashreeraghunath "

>> ><subashreeraghunath> wrote:

>> >>

>> >> Dear Respected Members,

>> >>

>> >> I am a new member of this group. Hello to everyone.

>> >> I am a student of astrology and KP only for 6 months. I would

>like

>> >to

>> >> draw the attention of the learned members regarding KPBC6.The

>same

>> >> Chart has been discussed in detail by Shri.K.S.K in his 3rd

>Reader

>> >> pages146-150(edition2004).

>> >>

>> >> Mothers death-11-4-47; date of marriage 6-7-1947.

>> >>

>> >> with regards

>> >> subashree raghunath

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

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tw,

 

Please see comments ** ............. **

 

 

Ron Gaunt

 

 

 

On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:39:39 -0000, you wrote:

 

>

>

>Dear Ron Gaunt,

>

>1. >>For those who might consider the marriage tie as being 8H,

>>> Saturn is also significator.

>

>Is there any Vedic or KP astrolger who takes 8th house for marriage?

 

** I suspect that nearly all astrologers myself included take the

7th house for marriage in general, because it is a

partnership.. Here however, we are considering

a specialized part of marriage - the formal or legal part -

ie. the ceremony. Professor V. K. Choudhry and (by

extension) possibly all SATVA students and astrologers

throughout the world, use the 8th house for marriage tie.

The question I would ask is how do you tell the difference

between a 'common law' marriage and a 'legal' marriage in

KP? Whilst this is a question unlikely to be raised in

India where I suspect there is little living together

without the marriage tie, it is in fact very common in the

West. **

>

>2. >>As we can substitute Saturn for Ketu the dasas can

>>> be read as Saturn Saturn Saturn. As Saturn is

>>> significators for marriage tie - houses 7 (8) and 11

>>> this seems to be a lot stronger than the denial

>>> of marriage in 6H by Mercury (and Saturn).

>

>If so, , Saturn is in Mercury star, Mercury is in 6th house, Saturn

>is 6th lord and as per KP 6th isn't the higher signification of

>Saturn ?? than 11th owned by Mercury and 7th owned by Saturn. (in

>usual computer printout of house signicators 6th is in first and

>fourth ranks of signification and 11th is in third rank and 7th is in

>fourth rank)

 

** Whilst Saturn is a 1st Class significator for only one (the

6th) house, what I was suggesting, is that it might in

fact be stronger by being significator for two marriage

houses (three if including the 8th) **

 

 

>

>

> , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>>

>> Dear tw,

>>

>> Please see ** ..................... **

>>

>>

>> Ron Gaunt

>>

>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:08:29 -0000, you wrote:

>>

>> >

>> >

>> >Dear Ron Gaunt,

>> >

>> >1. It's interesting what is wrong with given TOB 7-06 PM to

>change

>> >to 7-07 PM, why is better by changing one minute, what is another

>> >typographical error in this Guruji KSK's demonstration example in

>his

>> >three Readers and why such example with errors is taken as KPBC6.

>>

>> ** I wasn't aware that this case was in two other Readers. The

>> change by a minute was simply to get a better fit with the

>> given angles. As I said it did not make any difference to

>> the outcomes. Whilst there was an error in the date in the

>> book, simply checking the planetary positions told me that

>> the chart was valid. As we can see with 60% of the

>> respondents getting the correct answer, the BC and the

>> interest it generated shows it was a worthwhile exercise.

>> I have asked members to present data for BCs direct to me

>> but only one member has submitted so far. **

>> >

>> >2. 12,5,10,3 houses of the native are 9(Bhadaka), 2(Maraka), 7

>> >(Maraka), 12 (Mosha/death) house for mother as per KP. What I'm

>> >wondering is the effect of so significant 6th house of the native

>on

>> >himself since it is not among the most death inflicting houses for

>> >his mother.

>>

>> ** The Sun in the 6th House is karaka for the native as Lord of

>> the Lagna. Sun's Star Lord is Moon ruler of the 12th

>> house of loss. As I explained the Sun by Star and Sub

>> Lords show Bandakha and Maraka for mother. So Sun for the

>> native shows loss of mother. **

>>

>> >3. KPBC6's 7th sublord is Mercury, 11th lord and marriage is

>> >promised. It may be worthy to note in predicting time of marriage

>> >how marriage significators over rule the marriage denying

>> >significators of 1,6, 10 houses and married on 6-7-1947 after two

>and

>> >half months of mother's death.

>>

>> ** Mercury as 7th House sub, is the sub of planet Saturn. Sub

>> Saturn gives the go ahead as significator of 7 and 11.

>> For those who might consider the marriage tie as being 8H,

>> Saturn is also significator. Jupiter is close conjunct

>> Uranus and both are significators of 7 and 8H. Jupiter

>> and Uranus are in the star of Saturn significators of

>> 7 and 8H.

>> In the last Solar Eclipse before marriage SE Ketu came

>> exact trine to natal Jupiter activating 7th and 8th house

>> significators. At the same time SE Jupiter came exact

>> (within 1') trine aspect to 8th Cusp. On the marriage

>> day Ketu had move on to exactly aspect natal Uranus.

>> Uranus is in the Star of Saturn and Sub of Ketu. As

>> Ketu is stronger than Saturn in their conjunction, this

>> could be read as Saturn Saturn.

>> If we look at the dasas for marriage they were

>> Venus Ketu Venus. Venus is in the Star of Ketu.

>> As we can substitute Saturn for Ketu the dasas can

>> be read as Saturn Saturn Saturn. As Saturn is

>> significators for marriage tie - houses 7 (8) and 11

>> this seems to be a lot stronger than the denial

>> of marriage in 6H by Mercury (and Saturn).

>>

>>

>> >

>> >Best regards,

>> >

>> >tw

>> >

>> >

>> > , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>> >>

>> >> Dear tw,

>> >>

>> >> Please see comments ** ............ **

>> >>

>> >> Ron Gaunt

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:12:59 -0000, you wrote:

>> >>

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >Dear subashreeraghunath,

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >1. You're absolutely correct. That is the demonstration

>example

>> >of

>> >> >Guruji KSK, after crowing that finding of the sub theory makes

>him

>> >> >crown, in (a) KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, pp 139-144; (b) KP

>> >Reader

>> >> >V, 1983, pp 139-144; © KP Reader VI, 1978, pp 83-87, which

>I've

>> >> >quoted several times in my postings.

>> >> >

>> >> >2. Birth details given by KSK are 28-1-1928, 7-06 PM, 13-04 N,

>80-

>> >15

>> >> >E. The only negligible difference in KPBC6 is TOB 7-07 PM.

>There

>> >is a

>> >> >typing error of DOB 28-1-1921 in KP Reader VI.

>> >>

>> >> >3. Date of mother's death is 27-4-47 in KP Readers (same as

>for

>> >> >KPBC6) and marriage on 6-7-47 in KP Readers. May be another

>one

>> >> >after cancellation on 27-4-47. Let us wait for response from

>Ron

>> >> >Gaunt.

>> >>

>> >> ** Yes, I took the example from Reader VI. I worked out the

>> >> date of birth from the planets positions. Regarding the

>> >> one minute difference the best fit for my computer settings

>> >> suggested 7:07pm and I thought there might have been

>> >> another typographical error (as there are many in the

>> >> books). Anyhow, this negligible change does not effect

>> >> the outcomes. **

>> >> >

>> >> >4. 27-4-47 is during the dasa sequence of Ven/Mer/Sat/Jup/Ven

>> >> >clearly indicating 12,5,10,3 houses: Bhadaka, Maraka, Mosha for

>> >> >mother's death, which is also consistent with transit and Ketu

>> >> >destroying the 4th house matters where it located through agent

>> >> >Saturn and inner or outer (both by KSK by saying inner in one

>> >place

>> >> >and outer in another place) planet Mars.

>> >> >

>> >> >5. What I've been wondering is " what is the role of 6th house "

>> >which

>> >> >is indicated by " all dasa " levels from 1st to 5th.

>> >>

>> >> ** A possible explanation for this 6th house involvement is

>> >> resident Sun.

>> >>

>> >> Sun is in the Star of Moon which is Badhaka for mother

>> >> being Lord of Cancer (9th House to 4th). Sun is in the Sub

>> >> of Jupiter - Maraka for mother being 2nd from 4th. Hence

>> >> Sun is indicator of death of mother. (interesting that

>> >> all the relevant dasa levels are involved here. I hadn't

>> >> noticed that)

>> >>

>> >> Natal Sun was exactly opposed by Solar Eclipse Saturn

>> >> which is in its own Star and Sub of Jupiter. These are

>> >> 1st and 2nd Class Malefic significators for the 4th House of

>> >> mother. In my opinion this configuration was one of the

>> >> prime instigators of his mother's death. Note SE Saturn was

>> >> extremely powerful having just gone stationary retrograde

>> >> on 21st Nov 1946 two days before the eclipse. Saturn only

>> >> went direct on the 5th April 1947 so death was not

>> >> indicated before this date.

>> >>

>> >> Later Saturn moved on by transit to aspect natal Jupiter on

>> >> the day of the mother's death 27th April 47. Jupiter is

>> >> extremely malefic maraka for mother. **

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >Best regards,

>> >> >

>> >> >tw

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > , " subashreeraghunath "

>> >> ><subashreeraghunath> wrote:

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Dear Respected Members,

>> >> >>

>> >> >> I am a new member of this group. Hello to everyone.

>> >> >> I am a student of astrology and KP only for 6 months. I would

>> >like

>> >> >to

>> >> >> draw the attention of the learned members regarding KPBC6.The

>> >same

>> >> >> Chart has been discussed in detail by Shri.K.S.K in his 3rd

>> >Reader

>> >> >> pages146-150(edition2004).

>> >> >>

>> >> >> Mothers death-11-4-47; date of marriage 6-7-1947.

>> >> >>

>> >> >> with regards

>> >> >> subashree raghunath

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

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Dear Respected Members,

 

I am a new member of this group. Hello to everyone.

I am a student of astrology and KP only for 6 months. I would like to

draw the attention of the learned members regarding KPBC6.The same

Chart has been discussed in detail by Shri.K.S.K in his 3rd Reader

pages146-150(edition2004).

 

Mothers death-11-4-47; date of marriage 6-7-1947.

 

with regards

subashree raghunath

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Dear subashreeraghunath,

 

 

1. You're absolutely correct. That is the demonstration example of

Guruji KSK, after crowing that finding of the sub theory makes him

crown, in (a) KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, pp 139-144; (b) KP Reader

V, 1983, pp 139-144; © KP Reader VI, 1978, pp 83-87, which I've

quoted several times in my postings.

 

2. Birth details given by KSK are 28-1-1928, 7-06 PM, 13-04 N, 80-15

E. The only negligible difference in KPBC6 is TOB 7-07 PM. There is a

typing error of DOB 28-1-1921 in KP Reader VI.

 

3. Date of mother's death is 27-4-47 in KP Readers (same as for

KPBC6) and marriage on 6-7-47 in KP Readers. May be another one

after cancellation on 27-4-47. Let us wait for response from Ron

Gaunt.

 

4. 27-4-47 is during the dasa sequence of Ven/Mer/Sat/Jup/Ven

clearly indicating 12,5,10,3 houses: Bhadaka, Maraka, Mosha for

mother's death, which is also consistent with transit and Ketu

destroying the 4th house matters where it located through agent

Saturn and inner or outer (both by KSK by saying inner in one place

and outer in another place) planet Mars.

 

5. What I've been wondering is " what is the role of 6th house " which

is indicated by " all dasa " levels from 1st to 5th.

 

 

Best regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

, " subashreeraghunath "

<subashreeraghunath> wrote:

>

> Dear Respected Members,

>

> I am a new member of this group. Hello to everyone.

> I am a student of astrology and KP only for 6 months. I would like

to

> draw the attention of the learned members regarding KPBC6.The same

> Chart has been discussed in detail by Shri.K.S.K in his 3rd Reader

> pages146-150(edition2004).

>

> Mothers death-11-4-47; date of marriage 6-7-1947.

>

> with regards

> subashree raghunath

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, " tw853 " <tw853> wrote:

> Dear tw,

 

Thank you for your prompt clarification

 

 

regards,

 

subashreeraghunath

 

 

> Dear subashreeraghunath,

>

>

> 1. You're absolutely correct. That is the demonstration example of

> Guruji KSK, after crowing that finding of the sub theory makes him

> crown, in (a) KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, pp 139-144; (b) KP

Reader

> V, 1983, pp 139-144; © KP Reader VI, 1978, pp 83-87, which I've

> quoted several times in my postings.

>

> 2. Birth details given by KSK are 28-1-1928, 7-06 PM, 13-04 N, 80-

15

> E. The only negligible difference in KPBC6 is TOB 7-07 PM. There is

a

> typing error of DOB 28-1-1921 in KP Reader VI.

>

> 3. Date of mother's death is 27-4-47 in KP Readers (same as for

> KPBC6) and marriage on 6-7-47 in KP Readers. May be another one

> after cancellation on 27-4-47. Let us wait for response from Ron

> Gaunt.

>

> 4. 27-4-47 is during the dasa sequence of Ven/Mer/Sat/Jup/Ven

> clearly indicating 12,5,10,3 houses: Bhadaka, Maraka, Mosha for

> mother's death, which is also consistent with transit and Ketu

> destroying the 4th house matters where it located through agent

> Saturn and inner or outer (both by KSK by saying inner in one place

> and outer in another place) planet Mars.

>

> 5. What I've been wondering is " what is the role of 6th house "

which

> is indicated by " all dasa " levels from 1st to 5th.

>

>

> Best regards,

>

> tw

>

>

>

> , " subashreeraghunath "

> <subashreeraghunath> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Respected Members,

> >

> > I am a new member of this group. Hello to everyone.

> > I am a student of astrology and KP only for 6 months. I would

like

> to

> > draw the attention of the learned members regarding KPBC6.The

same

> > Chart has been discussed in detail by Shri.K.S.K in his 3rd

Reader

> > pages146-150(edition2004).

> >

> > Mothers death-11-4-47; date of marriage 6-7-1947.

> >

> > with regards

> > subashree raghunath

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Dear Ron Gaunt,

 

1. It's interesting what is wrong with given TOB 7-06 PM to change

to 7-07 PM, why is better by changing one minute, what is another

typographical error in this Guruji KSK's demonstration example in his

three Readers and why such example with errors is taken as KPBC6.

 

2. 12,5,10,3 houses of the native are 9(Bhadaka), 2(Maraka), 7

(Maraka), 12 (Mosha/death) house for mother as per KP. What I'm

wondering is the effect of so significant 6th house of the native on

himself since it is not among the most death inflicting houses for

his mother.

 

3. KPBC6's 7th sublord is Mercury, 11th lord and marriage is

promised. It may be worthy to note in predicting time of marriage

how marriage significators over rule the marriage denying

significators of 1,6, 10 houses and married on 6-7-1947 after two and

half months of mother's death.

 

Best regards,

 

tw

 

 

, rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>

> Dear tw,

>

> Please see comments ** ............ **

>

> Ron Gaunt

>

>

>

>

> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:12:59 -0000, you wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >Dear subashreeraghunath,

> >

> >

> >1. You're absolutely correct. That is the demonstration example

of

> >Guruji KSK, after crowing that finding of the sub theory makes him

> >crown, in (a) KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, pp 139-144; (b) KP

Reader

> >V, 1983, pp 139-144; © KP Reader VI, 1978, pp 83-87, which I've

> >quoted several times in my postings.

> >

> >2. Birth details given by KSK are 28-1-1928, 7-06 PM, 13-04 N, 80-

15

> >E. The only negligible difference in KPBC6 is TOB 7-07 PM. There

is a

> >typing error of DOB 28-1-1921 in KP Reader VI.

>

> >3. Date of mother's death is 27-4-47 in KP Readers (same as for

> >KPBC6) and marriage on 6-7-47 in KP Readers. May be another one

> >after cancellation on 27-4-47. Let us wait for response from Ron

> >Gaunt.

>

> ** Yes, I took the example from Reader VI. I worked out the

> date of birth from the planets positions. Regarding the

> one minute difference the best fit for my computer settings

> suggested 7:07pm and I thought there might have been

> another typographical error (as there are many in the

> books). Anyhow, this negligible change does not effect

> the outcomes. **

> >

> >4. 27-4-47 is during the dasa sequence of Ven/Mer/Sat/Jup/Ven

> >clearly indicating 12,5,10,3 houses: Bhadaka, Maraka, Mosha for

> >mother's death, which is also consistent with transit and Ketu

> >destroying the 4th house matters where it located through agent

> >Saturn and inner or outer (both by KSK by saying inner in one

place

> >and outer in another place) planet Mars.

> >

> >5. What I've been wondering is " what is the role of 6th house "

which

> >is indicated by " all dasa " levels from 1st to 5th.

>

> ** A possible explanation for this 6th house involvement is

> resident Sun.

>

> Sun is in the Star of Moon which is Badhaka for mother

> being Lord of Cancer (9th House to 4th). Sun is in the Sub

> of Jupiter - Maraka for mother being 2nd from 4th. Hence

> Sun is indicator of death of mother. (interesting that

> all the relevant dasa levels are involved here. I hadn't

> noticed that)

>

> Natal Sun was exactly opposed by Solar Eclipse Saturn

> which is in its own Star and Sub of Jupiter. These are

> 1st and 2nd Class Malefic significators for the 4th House of

> mother. In my opinion this configuration was one of the

> prime instigators of his mother's death. Note SE Saturn was

> extremely powerful having just gone stationary retrograde

> on 21st Nov 1946 two days before the eclipse. Saturn only

> went direct on the 5th April 1947 so death was not

> indicated before this date.

>

> Later Saturn moved on by transit to aspect natal Jupiter on

> the day of the mother's death 27th April 47. Jupiter is

> extremely malefic maraka for mother. **

> >

> >

> >Best regards,

> >

> >tw

> >

> >

> >

> > , " subashreeraghunath "

> ><subashreeraghunath> wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Respected Members,

> >>

> >> I am a new member of this group. Hello to everyone.

> >> I am a student of astrology and KP only for 6 months. I would

like

> >to

> >> draw the attention of the learned members regarding KPBC6.The

same

> >> Chart has been discussed in detail by Shri.K.S.K in his 3rd

Reader

> >> pages146-150(edition2004).

> >>

> >> Mothers death-11-4-47; date of marriage 6-7-1947.

> >>

> >> with regards

> >> subashree raghunath

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Ron Gaunt,

 

1. >>For those who might consider the marriage tie as being 8H,

>> Saturn is also significator.

 

Is there any Vedic or KP astrolger who takes 8th house for marriage?

 

 

2. >>As we can substitute Saturn for Ketu the dasas can

>> be read as Saturn Saturn Saturn. As Saturn is

>> significators for marriage tie - houses 7 (8) and 11

>> this seems to be a lot stronger than the denial

>> of marriage in 6H by Mercury (and Saturn).

 

If so, , Saturn is in Mercury star, Mercury is in 6th house, Saturn

is 6th lord and as per KP 6th isn't the higher signification of

Saturn ?? than 11th owned by Mercury and 7th owned by Saturn. (in

usual computer printout of house signicators 6th is in first and

fourth ranks of signification and 11th is in third rank and 7th is in

fourth rank)

 

Best regards,

 

tw

 

 

 

 

 

, rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>

> Dear tw,

>

> Please see ** ..................... **

>

>

> Ron Gaunt

>

> On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:08:29 -0000, you wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >Dear Ron Gaunt,

> >

> >1. It's interesting what is wrong with given TOB 7-06 PM to

change

> >to 7-07 PM, why is better by changing one minute, what is another

> >typographical error in this Guruji KSK's demonstration example in

his

> >three Readers and why such example with errors is taken as KPBC6.

>

> ** I wasn't aware that this case was in two other Readers. The

> change by a minute was simply to get a better fit with the

> given angles. As I said it did not make any difference to

> the outcomes. Whilst there was an error in the date in the

> book, simply checking the planetary positions told me that

> the chart was valid. As we can see with 60% of the

> respondents getting the correct answer, the BC and the

> interest it generated shows it was a worthwhile exercise.

> I have asked members to present data for BCs direct to me

> but only one member has submitted so far. **

> >

> >2. 12,5,10,3 houses of the native are 9(Bhadaka), 2(Maraka), 7

> >(Maraka), 12 (Mosha/death) house for mother as per KP. What I'm

> >wondering is the effect of so significant 6th house of the native

on

> >himself since it is not among the most death inflicting houses for

> >his mother.

>

> ** The Sun in the 6th House is karaka for the native as Lord of

> the Lagna. Sun's Star Lord is Moon ruler of the 12th

> house of loss. As I explained the Sun by Star and Sub

> Lords show Bandakha and Maraka for mother. So Sun for the

> native shows loss of mother. **

>

> >3. KPBC6's 7th sublord is Mercury, 11th lord and marriage is

> >promised. It may be worthy to note in predicting time of marriage

> >how marriage significators over rule the marriage denying

> >significators of 1,6, 10 houses and married on 6-7-1947 after two

and

> >half months of mother's death.

>

> ** Mercury as 7th House sub, is the sub of planet Saturn. Sub

> Saturn gives the go ahead as significator of 7 and 11.

> For those who might consider the marriage tie as being 8H,

> Saturn is also significator. Jupiter is close conjunct

> Uranus and both are significators of 7 and 8H. Jupiter

> and Uranus are in the star of Saturn significators of

> 7 and 8H.

> In the last Solar Eclipse before marriage SE Ketu came

> exact trine to natal Jupiter activating 7th and 8th house

> significators. At the same time SE Jupiter came exact

> (within 1') trine aspect to 8th Cusp. On the marriage

> day Ketu had move on to exactly aspect natal Uranus.

> Uranus is in the Star of Saturn and Sub of Ketu. As

> Ketu is stronger than Saturn in their conjunction, this

> could be read as Saturn Saturn.

> If we look at the dasas for marriage they were

> Venus Ketu Venus. Venus is in the Star of Ketu.

> As we can substitute Saturn for Ketu the dasas can

> be read as Saturn Saturn Saturn. As Saturn is

> significators for marriage tie - houses 7 (8) and 11

> this seems to be a lot stronger than the denial

> of marriage in 6H by Mercury (and Saturn).

>

>

> >

> >Best regards,

> >

> >tw

> >

> >

> > , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear tw,

> >>

> >> Please see comments ** ............ **

> >>

> >> Ron Gaunt

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:12:59 -0000, you wrote:

> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >Dear subashreeraghunath,

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >1. You're absolutely correct. That is the demonstration

example

> >of

> >> >Guruji KSK, after crowing that finding of the sub theory makes

him

> >> >crown, in (a) KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, pp 139-144; (b) KP

> >Reader

> >> >V, 1983, pp 139-144; © KP Reader VI, 1978, pp 83-87, which

I've

> >> >quoted several times in my postings.

> >> >

> >> >2. Birth details given by KSK are 28-1-1928, 7-06 PM, 13-04 N,

80-

> >15

> >> >E. The only negligible difference in KPBC6 is TOB 7-07 PM.

There

> >is a

> >> >typing error of DOB 28-1-1921 in KP Reader VI.

> >>

> >> >3. Date of mother's death is 27-4-47 in KP Readers (same as

for

> >> >KPBC6) and marriage on 6-7-47 in KP Readers. May be another

one

> >> >after cancellation on 27-4-47. Let us wait for response from

Ron

> >> >Gaunt.

> >>

> >> ** Yes, I took the example from Reader VI. I worked out the

> >> date of birth from the planets positions. Regarding the

> >> one minute difference the best fit for my computer settings

> >> suggested 7:07pm and I thought there might have been

> >> another typographical error (as there are many in the

> >> books). Anyhow, this negligible change does not effect

> >> the outcomes. **

> >> >

> >> >4. 27-4-47 is during the dasa sequence of Ven/Mer/Sat/Jup/Ven

> >> >clearly indicating 12,5,10,3 houses: Bhadaka, Maraka, Mosha for

> >> >mother's death, which is also consistent with transit and Ketu

> >> >destroying the 4th house matters where it located through agent

> >> >Saturn and inner or outer (both by KSK by saying inner in one

> >place

> >> >and outer in another place) planet Mars.

> >> >

> >> >5. What I've been wondering is " what is the role of 6th house "

> >which

> >> >is indicated by " all dasa " levels from 1st to 5th.

> >>

> >> ** A possible explanation for this 6th house involvement is

> >> resident Sun.

> >>

> >> Sun is in the Star of Moon which is Badhaka for mother

> >> being Lord of Cancer (9th House to 4th). Sun is in the Sub

> >> of Jupiter - Maraka for mother being 2nd from 4th. Hence

> >> Sun is indicator of death of mother. (interesting that

> >> all the relevant dasa levels are involved here. I hadn't

> >> noticed that)

> >>

> >> Natal Sun was exactly opposed by Solar Eclipse Saturn

> >> which is in its own Star and Sub of Jupiter. These are

> >> 1st and 2nd Class Malefic significators for the 4th House of

> >> mother. In my opinion this configuration was one of the

> >> prime instigators of his mother's death. Note SE Saturn was

> >> extremely powerful having just gone stationary retrograde

> >> on 21st Nov 1946 two days before the eclipse. Saturn only

> >> went direct on the 5th April 1947 so death was not

> >> indicated before this date.

> >>

> >> Later Saturn moved on by transit to aspect natal Jupiter on

> >> the day of the mother's death 27th April 47. Jupiter is

> >> extremely malefic maraka for mother. **

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >Best regards,

> >> >

> >> >tw

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > , " subashreeraghunath "

> >> ><subashreeraghunath> wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >> Dear Respected Members,

> >> >>

> >> >> I am a new member of this group. Hello to everyone.

> >> >> I am a student of astrology and KP only for 6 months. I would

> >like

> >> >to

> >> >> draw the attention of the learned members regarding KPBC6.The

> >same

> >> >> Chart has been discussed in detail by Shri.K.S.K in his 3rd

> >Reader

> >> >> pages146-150(edition2004).

> >> >>

> >> >> Mothers death-11-4-47; date of marriage 6-7-1947.

> >> >>

> >> >> with regards

> >> >> subashree raghunath

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

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Dear Ron Gaunt,

 

1. It's right that as per PROF. CHAUDHRY 's Systems Approach- SA

(SAMVA · Systems Approach to Mundane Vedic Astrology, Members: 421,

Created: Nov 28, 2000; V.K. Choudhry: " Systems' Approach For

Interpreting Horoscopes " , 2002, pp 125-126, p 219, p 230; V.K.

Choudhry: " How to Study Divisional Charts " , 2001, p 132; V. K.

Choudhry, K. Rajesh Chaudhry: " How To Analyse Married Life " , 2002, p

29; David Hawthorne,V.K. Choudhry: " Astrology for Life " , 2000, p 114,

http://www.yournetastrologer.com/appli/a04.htm), 8th house is one of

many MARRIAGE SIGNIFICATORS as follows.

 

(1) The lord of the seventh house. In case there is no mooltrikona

sign in the seventh house, then the lord of the houses signifying

marriage (the second, fourth, eighth or twelfth house containing

mooltrikona sign) are considered. <family life (2nd), bed comforts

(12th), self-health (1st), sexual enjoyment/martial life (8th),

progeny (5th) and general happiness of life (4th)> For various

ascendants, besides the significator for marriage, the following

planets are prime determinant of marriage:- Aries for Asc

Venus, Taurus –Sun, Gemini --Jupiter, Cancer--- Sun, Leo - -

Saturn, Virgo - -Venus, Libra - -Mars, Scorpio -- -Jupiter,

Sagittarius---Moon, Capricorn - - -Moon, Aquarius --Sun, Pisces - -

Mercury.

 

(2) Venus and Jupiter are significators of marriage for males and

females respectively.

Marriage can also take place in the sub-periods of the strong planets

placed in the houses signifying marriage. These planets become

secondary significators of marriage. If the prime determinants and

the significator of marriage are strong and there is no affliction to

the most effective points of the houses signifying marriage, the

marriage takes place at the appropriate time. The good strength of

Venus hastens the process. The delay is caused by: (a) The close

influence of the functional malefic planets or the most malefic

planet on the prime determinants for marriage; (b) Significator of

marriage being weak or badly placed and/or afflicted by the most

malefic or a functional malefic planet. © When the prime

determinants and secondary significators are weak and/or are

afflicted. (d) When the lords of the eighth and/or twelfth houses

containing a mooltrikona sign are weak, badly placed and are

afflicted. The influence of the functional malefic planets delays

while the influence of the most malefic planet (MMP) delays

inordinately and/or denies. The malefic influence of the MMP cannot

be mellowed without persistent performance of the appropriate astral

remedies. If there is a mooltrikona sign in the eighth house from

the ascendant, its lord is called MMP. In case there is no

mooltrikona sign in the eighth house, then the role of the MMP is

played by the lord of the twelfth house containing the mooltrikona

sign. In case there is no mooltrikona sign in the twelfth house, as

well, then the role of the MMP is played by Ketu. (In the case of

KPBC6, Saturn may not be a stromg significator for marriage as per as

SA since natal Saturn is in good placement, but conjunct/aspt by

functional malefics Rah/Ket 95% and transit Saturn is in bad

placement in malefic house and weak depositor.)

 

2. As per GURUJI KSK (KP Reader II, 1983, p 202, p 220; KP Reader

IV, 1984, p 70, pp 109-110, p 138, p 146, p 154; Reader VI, 1978),

Marriage means an addition to the family members, partnership, legal

bondage and conjugal relationship. 7th house represents legal

bondage, it is through this that one ought to divine about marriage.

Although marriage is the concern of 7th house, it is necessary to

consider the houses 2nd and 11th also in this aspect. 2nd house

indicates one more member is added the family (2nd – acquisition to

the family by marriage); 7th- this addition is on an agreement (7th-

wife or husband); 11th- such an additional member brings permanent

tie of friendship for pleasure and progeny (11th- pleasure and

permanent or lasting friendship) In fact, the lover is more

accurately ascertained from the 11th house rather than from the 7th.

This is so, as the 11th house stands for lasting friendship and

intimacy that may end in marriage. One may also live with pleasure

with a member of the opposite sex without actually contracting

marriage. The 7th house shows one to whom one is bound by ties of

legal bondage and not necessarily a lasting friendship. The person

who, by the bond of marriage, enters into legal partnership with you

have to partake in your pain and pleasure. 4th is 12th to 5th

indicates failure in love affairs and also denial of children or

separation from them. 4th is a denial significator in judging whether

marriage is promised. Significators for marriage delay or denial,

separation, divorce are houses 1,6,10 (12th to 2,7,11) and 12. And

8th house signifies delay in marriage, disharmony and quarrel.

 

 

3. In general, houses for marriage are 2,7,11 as per KP and

1,2,4,5,7,8,12 as per SA. And generally houses (1), (4), 6, (8),

10,12 may cause delay or denial to marriage as per KP. How can SA

different principles be combined with KP? In " ·

Jyotish (Vedic Astrology) and Remedies " Group, Members: 2681,

Created: Mar 20, 2003, " Schools allowed in this forum are pure Vedic

Astrology, KP (Krishnamurti Paddhati) etc. - SA (Systems Approach) is

not allowed here " .

 

4. Higher signification of Saturn for 6th house is according to KSK

principle adopted without exception, in KP Reader III, pp 171-172,

174; KP Reader IV, p 110, 118, 127; Reader V, p 149 and Reader VI,

pp 156-157. Moreover, Saturn's sublord Mars signifies houses

5,5,3,10,4,9 (generally 10th house in third rank of signification).

 

5. In fact, marriage was realized perhaps as mentioned by KSK, in KP

Reader IV, 109, " Whenever Sani happens to be a significator of a

particular matter, it will not deny but will cause delay. If it is

connected with houses 2,7, and 11 by occupying the house or owning it

or situated in the constellation of the planet posited in any of

these houses it will cause delay at every time in fixation of

marriage, celebration of marriage, etc. "

 

Best regards,

 

 

tw

 

 

 

 

, rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

>

> tw,

>

> Please see comments ** ............. **

>

>

> Ron Gaunt

>

>

>

> On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 03:39:39 -0000, you wrote:

>

> >

> >

> >Dear Ron Gaunt,

> >

> >1. >>For those who might consider the marriage tie as being 8H,

> >>> Saturn is also significator.

> >

> >Is there any Vedic or KP astrolger who takes 8th house for

marriage?

>

> ** I suspect that nearly all astrologers myself included take the

> 7th house for marriage in general, because it is a

> partnership.. Here however, we are considering

> a specialized part of marriage - the formal or legal part -

> ie. the ceremony. Professor V. K. Choudhry and (by

> extension) possibly all SATVA students and astrologers

> throughout the world, use the 8th house for marriage tie.

> The question I would ask is how do you tell the difference

> between a 'common law' marriage and a 'legal' marriage in

> KP? Whilst this is a question unlikely to be raised in

> India where I suspect there is little living together

> without the marriage tie, it is in fact very common in the

> West. **

> >

> >2. >>As we can substitute Saturn for Ketu the dasas can

> >>> be read as Saturn Saturn Saturn. As Saturn is

> >>> significators for marriage tie - houses 7 (8) and 11

> >>> this seems to be a lot stronger than the denial

> >>> of marriage in 6H by Mercury (and Saturn).

> >

> >If so, , Saturn is in Mercury star, Mercury is in 6th house,

Saturn

> >is 6th lord and as per KP 6th isn't the higher signification of

> >Saturn ?? than 11th owned by Mercury and 7th owned by Saturn. (in

> >usual computer printout of house signicators 6th is in first and

> >fourth ranks of signification and 11th is in third rank and 7th is

in

> >fourth rank)

>

> ** Whilst Saturn is a 1st Class significator for only one (the

> 6th) house, what I was suggesting, is that it might in

> fact be stronger by being significator for two marriage

> houses (three if including the 8th) **

>

>

> >

> >

> > , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear tw,

> >>

> >> Please see ** ..................... **

> >>

> >>

> >> Ron Gaunt

> >>

> >> On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 00:08:29 -0000, you wrote:

> >>

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >Dear Ron Gaunt,

> >> >

> >> >1. It's interesting what is wrong with given TOB 7-06 PM to

> >change

> >> >to 7-07 PM, why is better by changing one minute, what is

another

> >> >typographical error in this Guruji KSK's demonstration example

in

> >his

> >> >three Readers and why such example with errors is taken as

KPBC6.

> >>

> >> ** I wasn't aware that this case was in two other Readers. The

> >> change by a minute was simply to get a better fit with the

> >> given angles. As I said it did not make any difference to

> >> the outcomes. Whilst there was an error in the date in the

> >> book, simply checking the planetary positions told me that

> >> the chart was valid. As we can see with 60% of the

> >> respondents getting the correct answer, the BC and the

> >> interest it generated shows it was a worthwhile exercise.

> >> I have asked members to present data for BCs direct to me

> >> but only one member has submitted so far. **

> >> >

> >> >2. 12,5,10,3 houses of the native are 9(Bhadaka), 2(Maraka), 7

> >> >(Maraka), 12 (Mosha/death) house for mother as per KP. What I'm

> >> >wondering is the effect of so significant 6th house of the

native

> >on

> >> >himself since it is not among the most death inflicting houses

for

> >> >his mother.

> >>

> >> ** The Sun in the 6th House is karaka for the native as Lord of

> >> the Lagna. Sun's Star Lord is Moon ruler of the 12th

> >> house of loss. As I explained the Sun by Star and Sub

> >> Lords show Bandakha and Maraka for mother. So Sun for the

> >> native shows loss of mother. **

> >>

> >> >3. KPBC6's 7th sublord is Mercury, 11th lord and marriage is

> >> >promised. It may be worthy to note in predicting time of

marriage

> >> >how marriage significators over rule the marriage denying

> >> >significators of 1,6, 10 houses and married on 6-7-1947 after

two

> >and

> >> >half months of mother's death.

> >>

> >> ** Mercury as 7th House sub, is the sub of planet Saturn. Sub

> >> Saturn gives the go ahead as significator of 7 and 11.

> >> For those who might consider the marriage tie as being 8H,

> >> Saturn is also significator. Jupiter is close conjunct

> >> Uranus and both are significators of 7 and 8H. Jupiter

> >> and Uranus are in the star of Saturn significators of

> >> 7 and 8H.

> >> In the last Solar Eclipse before marriage SE Ketu came

> >> exact trine to natal Jupiter activating 7th and 8th house

> >> significators. At the same time SE Jupiter came exact

> >> (within 1') trine aspect to 8th Cusp. On the marriage

> >> day Ketu had move on to exactly aspect natal Uranus.

> >> Uranus is in the Star of Saturn and Sub of Ketu. As

> >> Ketu is stronger than Saturn in their conjunction, this

> >> could be read as Saturn Saturn.

> >> If we look at the dasas for marriage they were

> >> Venus Ketu Venus. Venus is in the Star of Ketu.

> >> As we can substitute Saturn for Ketu the dasas can

> >> be read as Saturn Saturn Saturn. As Saturn is

> >> significators for marriage tie - houses 7 (8) and 11

> >> this seems to be a lot stronger than the denial

> >> of marriage in 6H by Mercury (and Saturn).

> >>

> >>

> >> >

> >> >Best regards,

> >> >

> >> >tw

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...>

wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >> Dear tw,

> >> >>

> >> >> Please see comments ** ............ **

> >> >>

> >> >> Ron Gaunt

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >>

> >> >> On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 13:12:59 -0000, you wrote:

> >> >>

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >Dear subashreeraghunath,

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >1. You're absolutely correct. That is the demonstration

> >example

> >> >of

> >> >> >Guruji KSK, after crowing that finding of the sub theory

makes

> >him

> >> >> >crown, in (a) KP Reader III, 1984, Part 1, pp 139-144; (b)

KP

> >> >Reader

> >> >> >V, 1983, pp 139-144; © KP Reader VI, 1978, pp 83-87, which

> >I've

> >> >> >quoted several times in my postings.

> >> >> >

> >> >> >2. Birth details given by KSK are 28-1-1928, 7-06 PM, 13-04

N,

> >80-

> >> >15

> >> >> >E. The only negligible difference in KPBC6 is TOB 7-07 PM.

> >There

> >> >is a

> >> >> >typing error of DOB 28-1-1921 in KP Reader VI.

> >> >>

> >> >> >3. Date of mother's death is 27-4-47 in KP Readers (same as

> >for

> >> >> >KPBC6) and marriage on 6-7-47 in KP Readers. May be another

> >one

> >> >> >after cancellation on 27-4-47. Let us wait for response

from

> >Ron

> >> >> >Gaunt.

> >> >>

> >> >> ** Yes, I took the example from Reader VI. I worked out

the

> >> >> date of birth from the planets positions. Regarding

the

> >> >> one minute difference the best fit for my computer

settings

> >> >> suggested 7:07pm and I thought there might have been

> >> >> another typographical error (as there are many in the

> >> >> books). Anyhow, this negligible change does not

effect

> >> >> the outcomes. **

> >> >> >

> >> >> >4. 27-4-47 is during the dasa sequence of

Ven/Mer/Sat/Jup/Ven

> >> >> >clearly indicating 12,5,10,3 houses: Bhadaka, Maraka, Mosha

for

> >> >> >mother's death, which is also consistent with transit and

Ketu

> >> >> >destroying the 4th house matters where it located through

agent

> >> >> >Saturn and inner or outer (both by KSK by saying inner in

one

> >> >place

> >> >> >and outer in another place) planet Mars.

> >> >> >

> >> >> >5. What I've been wondering is " what is the role of 6th

house "

> >> >which

> >> >> >is indicated by " all dasa " levels from 1st to 5th.

> >> >>

> >> >> ** A possible explanation for this 6th house involvement is

> >> >> resident Sun.

> >> >>

> >> >> Sun is in the Star of Moon which is Badhaka for mother

> >> >> being Lord of Cancer (9th House to 4th). Sun is in the

Sub

> >> >> of Jupiter - Maraka for mother being 2nd from 4th.

Hence

> >> >> Sun is indicator of death of mother. (interesting

that

> >> >> all the relevant dasa levels are involved here. I

hadn't

> >> >> noticed that)

> >> >>

> >> >> Natal Sun was exactly opposed by Solar Eclipse Saturn

> >> >> which is in its own Star and Sub of Jupiter. These

are

> >> >> 1st and 2nd Class Malefic significators for the 4th

House of

> >> >> mother. In my opinion this configuration was one of

the

> >> >> prime instigators of his mother's death. Note SE Saturn

was

> >> >> extremely powerful having just gone stationary retrograde

> >> >> on 21st Nov 1946 two days before the eclipse. Saturn

only

> >> >> went direct on the 5th April 1947 so death was not

> >> >> indicated before this date.

> >> >>

> >> >> Later Saturn moved on by transit to aspect natal Jupiter

on

> >> >> the day of the mother's death 27th April 47. Jupiter

is

> >> >> extremely malefic maraka for mother. **

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >Best regards,

> >> >> >

> >> >> >tw

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> > , " subashreeraghunath "

> >> >> ><subashreeraghunath> wrote:

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Dear Respected Members,

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> I am a new member of this group. Hello to everyone.

> >> >> >> I am a student of astrology and KP only for 6 months. I

would

> >> >like

> >> >> >to

> >> >> >> draw the attention of the learned members regarding

KPBC6.The

> >> >same

> >> >> >> Chart has been discussed in detail by Shri.K.S.K in his

3rd

> >> >Reader

> >> >> >> pages146-150(edition2004).

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> Mothers death-11-4-47; date of marriage 6-7-1947.

> >> >> >>

> >> >> >> with regards

> >> >> >> subashree raghunath

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

> >> >> >

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