Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord of Horary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord the answer is yes'. Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lord quoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparison chart ie. natal. If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horary chart when a comparison chart is not used? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Hi there, Gulbarga theory refers only to horary chart and not natal chart. For clarification we must refer to Mr Hariharan's book RP & KP pg128/129.Incidentally,this book and the other book 'RECTIFICATION OF BIRTH TIME' by Hariharan,are shoddy presentations full of factual errors.it only cause more confusions, the use of Sub lords in RPs is very ambiguous, only they appear to have been used to camoflage the reconciliation to events in postmortem. By the way,in Thane,suburb of Mumbai,there is a very active Association of KP devotees who follow strictly the sublord theory for all prognosis.This groups interact only in Marathi and publish a journal for its members. Regards,Satish , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord of > Horary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord the > answer is yes'. > > Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lord > quoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparison > chart ie. natal. > > If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horary > chart when a comparison chart is not used? > > Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 we go by ascendat lord star lord and sub lord if we are analysing natal chart and we go by Moon rasi lord, star lord and sub lord if we are analysing horary. , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord of > Horary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord the > answer is yes'. > > Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lord > quoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparison > chart ie. natal. > > If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horary > chart when a comparison chart is not used? > > Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 we go by ascendat lord star lord and sub lord if we are analysing natal chart and we go by Moon rasi lord, star lord and sub lord if we are analysing horary. , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord of > Horary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord the > answer is yes'. > > Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lord > quoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparison > chart ie. natal. > > If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horary > chart when a comparison chart is not used? > > Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Dear rajaniseer36, Pl. do not mix up Natal and Horary astrology...the Gulbarga theory is an "express" method,a shortcut-method, of answering a query immediately,also it gives you a hint whether to proceed with the entire exercise of casting the horary chart and analysing the chart,and then reaching the conclusion that the event will not materialise,for one reason or the other... The Gulbarga theory uses the RPs to give an instant reply...in the Yes/No form...all other details are discerned,only in the usual manner... The Gulbarga theory is based upon the painstaking and laborious efforts,put in by KP scholars, the research experience of hundreds of cases by the K.P.Astro-research group there... At the very outset,I should have informed you that your "understanding" about considering ascendant star-lord for Natal charts,and Moon-star-lord for the horary chart...is itself very flawed... Kindly check up from "Horary Astrology",written by K.S.Krishnamurthiji,himself...for a clearer understanding of the same... With best wishes, lyrastro1 GOOD LUCK ! rajaniseer36 <rajaniseer36 wrote: we go by ascendat lord star lord and sub lord if we are analysing natal chart and we go by Moon rasi lord, star lord and sub lord if we are analysing horary. , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote:> As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord of> Horary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord the> answer is yes'.> > Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lord> quoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparison> chart ie. natal.> > If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horary> chart when a comparison chart is not used?> > Thanks India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Dear Ron, The Gulbarga theory is the distillate of hundreds of cases,by the esteemed K.P.scholars, from the K.P. astro-research team there,and is a "short-cut" method,designed ONLY for a quick reply in the YES/NO fashion...and save time...(it was found extremely useful before Computers and Computer-based K.P. programmes arrived on the scene...) All other astrological delineations are to be made in the usual K.P., regular fashion... Yours sincerely, lyrastro1rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord ofHorary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord theanswer is yes'.Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lordquoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparisonchart ie. natal.If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horarychart when a comparison chart is not used?Thanks India Matrimony: Find your life partner online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Satish, Thanks for the reply. Does your experience using Gulbarga suggest that it is a valid method of prediction? If so it is a very easy method of getting answers. We don't need to cast a chart, or have a computer available; all we need is to carry a Sub divisions List with us, think of a number in reference to our query and look at the list for Star and Sub Lords. Very easy - and great if it works consistently. All the best. On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:27:18 -0000, you wrote: > > > >Hi there, > > Gulbarga theory refers only to horary chart and not natal >chart. For clarification we must refer to Mr Hariharan's book RP & KP >pg128/129.Incidentally,this book and the other book 'RECTIFICATION >OF BIRTH TIME' by Hariharan,are shoddy presentations full of factual >errors.it only cause more confusions, the use of Sub lords in RPs is >very ambiguous, only they appear to have been used to camoflage the >reconciliation to events in postmortem. > By the way,in Thane,suburb of Mumbai,there is a very active >Association of KP devotees who follow strictly the sublord theory >for all prognosis.This groups interact only in Marathi and publish a >journal for its members. > > Regards,Satish > > > , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: >> As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord of >> Horary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord the >> answer is yes'. >> >> Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lord >> quoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparison >> chart ie. natal. >> >> If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horary >> chart when a comparison chart is not used? >> >> Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Ron, My (late)father tried it and I tried it too. It worked sometimes but not always. Thanks, Nagesh , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > Satish, > > Thanks for the reply. Does your experience using > Gulbarga suggest that it is a valid method of prediction? > > If so it is a very easy method of getting answers. We don't > need to cast a chart, or have a computer available; all we need > is to carry a Sub divisions List with us, think of a number in > reference to our query and look at the list for Star and Sub > Lords. Very easy - and great if it works consistently. > > All the best. > > > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:27:18 -0000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >Hi there, > > > > Gulbarga theory refers only to horary chart and not natal > >chart. For clarification we must refer to Mr Hariharan's book RP & KP > >pg128/129.Incidentally,this book and the other book 'RECTIFICATION > >OF BIRTH TIME' by Hariharan,are shoddy presentations full of factual > >errors.it only cause more confusions, the use of Sub lords in RPs is > >very ambiguous, only they appear to have been used to camoflage the > >reconciliation to events in postmortem. > > By the way,in Thane,suburb of Mumbai,there is a very active > >Association of KP devotees who follow strictly the sublord theory > >for all prognosis.This groups interact only in Marathi and publish a > >journal for its members. > > > > Regards,Satish > > > > > > , rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > >> As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord of > >> Horary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord the > >> answer is yes'. > >> > >> Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lord > >> quoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparison > >> chart ie. natal. > >> > >> If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horary > >> chart when a comparison chart is not used? > >> > >> Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Gulburga Theory is only for HORARY , when the question can be answered by a simple YES or NO. The rule is If the Sublord of the ASC (Horary) is the Star Lord of Moon (horary), or the Star Lord of the Regular Ascendent at time of casting, then Answer IS YES. Later some have added the Star Lord of FORTUNA also as a criterion. The best way of trying this out is to ask yourself some inconseqial questions and test it out using the RANDOM no for the Horary rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord ofHorary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord theanswer is yes'.Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lordquoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparisonchart ie. natal.If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horarychart when a comparison chart is not used?Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 You NEED the Position of the MOON (STAR LORD ), and also the Normal ASC dent at the time of checking up the answer. If you constantly use the Chart of Kp Numbers and the SUB Lord of that Number, You may with a little test on the day within say 2 hours, come to know which No. will give the Answer as Yes, as Moon Star does not change in the DAY. The ASC changes sign (2-3 starlords) in 2 hours. To avoid all thes complicatins, it is best to use the Number Given by the consultant ( if self is the consultant then use a Random No. generated by the computer), and then ckeck the Gulberga theory. For Example I have answered KPBC 7 using this Gulburga Theory, because the answer need is Yes or NO rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: Satish,Thanks for the reply. Does your experience using Gulbarga suggest that it is a valid method of prediction?If so it is a very easy method of getting answers. We don'tneed to cast a chart, or have a computer available; all we needis to carry a Sub divisions List with us, think of a number inreference to our query and look at the list for Star and SubLords. Very easy - and great if it works consistently.All the best.On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:27:18 -0000, you wrote:>>>>Hi there,>> Gulbarga theory refers only to horary chart and not natal >chart. For clarification we must refer to Mr Hariharan's book RP & KP >pg128/129.Incidentally,this book and the other book 'RECTIFICATION >OF BIRTH TIME' by Hariharan,are shoddy presentations full of factual >errors.it only cause more confusions, the use of Sub lords in RPs is >very ambiguous, only they appear to have been used to camoflage the >reconciliation to events in postmortem.> By the way,in Thane,suburb of Mumbai,there is a very active >Association of KP devotees who follow strictly the sublord theory >for all prognosis.This groups interact only in Marathi and publish a >journal for its members.>> Regards,Satish>>> , rongaunt wrote:>> As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord of>> Horary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord the>> answer is yes'.>> >> Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lord>> quoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparison>> chart ie. natal.>> >> If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horary>> chart when a comparison chart is not used?>> >> Thanks>>>>>>>>>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 -Hi There, The Gulbarga theory shouldbe used for only " minor " events. Major events should go thro'proper procedure.Hence Gulbarga Theory has " limited applications " . Rgds, Satish -- In , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > You NEED the Position of the MOON (STAR LORD ), and also the Normal ASC dent at the time of checking up the answer. If you constantly use the Chart of Kp Numbers and the SUB Lord of that Number, You may with a little test on the day within say 2 hours, come to know which No. will give the Answer as Yes, as Moon Star does not change in the DAY. The ASC changes sign (2-3 starlords) in 2 hours. To avoid all thes complicatins, it is best to use the Number Given by the consultant ( if self is the consultant then use a Random No. generated by the computer), and then ckeck the Gulberga theory. For Example I have answered KPBC 7 using this Gulburga Theory, because the answer need is Yes or NO > > > rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > > Satish, > > Thanks for the reply. Does your experience using > Gulbarga suggest that it is a valid method of prediction? > > If so it is a very easy method of getting answers. We don't > need to cast a chart, or have a computer available; all we need > is to carry a Sub divisions List with us, think of a number in > reference to our query and look at the list for Star and Sub > Lords. Very easy - and great if it works consistently. > > All the best. > > > > On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:27:18 -0000, you wrote: > > > > > > > > >Hi there, > > > > Gulbarga theory refers only to horary chart and not natal > >chart. For clarification we must refer to Mr Hariharan's book RP & KP > >pg128/129.Incidentally,this book and the other book 'RECTIFICATION > >OF BIRTH TIME' by Hariharan,are shoddy presentations full of factual > >errors.it only cause more confusions, the use of Sub lords in RPs is > >very ambiguous, only they appear to have been used to camoflage the > >reconciliation to events in postmortem. > > By the way,in Thane,suburb of Mumbai,there is a very active > >Association of KP devotees who follow strictly the sublord theory > >for all prognosis.This groups interact only in Marathi and publish a > >journal for its members. > > > > Regards,Satish > > > > > > , rongaunt wrote: > >> As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord of > >> Horary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord the > >> answer is yes'. > >> > >> Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lord > >> quoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparison > >> chart ie. natal. > >> > >> If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horary > >> chart when a comparison chart is not used? > >> > >> Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Dear Mr. Raichur, I just want to know if Sublord of ASC (Horary) is Moon itself, but Moon is neither the starlord of Moon nor the Star Lord of the Regular Ascendent at time of casting, then What is the Answer? " Yes or No " ? Regards, -Sourav. , anant raichur <anant_1608> wrote: > Gulburga Theory is only for HORARY , when the question can be answered by a simple YES or NO. > > The rule is If the Sublord of the ASC (Horary) is the Star Lord of Moon (horary), or the Star Lord of the Regular Ascendent at time of casting, then Answer IS YES. Later some have added the Star Lord of FORTUNA also as a criterion. > > The best way of trying this out is to ask yourself some inconseqial questions and test it out using the RANDOM no for the Horary > > > rongaunt <rongaunt@b...> wrote: > > As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord of > Horary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord the > answer is yes'. > > Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lord > quoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparison > chart ie. natal. > > If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horary > chart when a comparison chart is not used? > > Thanks > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 anant, Thanks for the reply. Will you please let me know how to generate a Random Number on the computer. Thanks Ron Gaunt On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 01:04:38 -0800, you wrote: >You NEED the Position of the MOON (STAR LORD ), and also the Normal ASC dent at the time of checking up the answer. If you constantly use the Chart of Kp Numbers and the SUB Lord of that Number, You may with a little test on the day within say 2 hours, come to know which No. will give the Answer as Yes, as Moon Star does not change in the DAY. The ASC changes sign (2-3 starlords) in 2 hours. To avoid all thes complicatins, it is best to use the Number Given by the consultant ( if self is the consultant then use a Random No. generated by the computer), and then ckeck the Gulberga theory. For Example I have answered KPBC 7 using this Gulburga Theory, because the answer need is Yes or NO > > >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > > >Satish, > >Thanks for the reply. Does your experience using >Gulbarga suggest that it is a valid method of prediction? > >If so it is a very easy method of getting answers. We don't >need to cast a chart, or have a computer available; all we need >is to carry a Sub divisions List with us, think of a number in >reference to our query and look at the list for Star and Sub >Lords. Very easy - and great if it works consistently. > >All the best. > > > >On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:27:18 -0000, you wrote: > >> >> >> >>Hi there, >> >> Gulbarga theory refers only to horary chart and not natal >>chart. For clarification we must refer to Mr Hariharan's book RP & KP >>pg128/129.Incidentally,this book and the other book 'RECTIFICATION >>OF BIRTH TIME' by Hariharan,are shoddy presentations full of factual >>errors.it only cause more confusions, the use of Sub lords in RPs is >>very ambiguous, only they appear to have been used to camoflage the >>reconciliation to events in postmortem. >> By the way,in Thane,suburb of Mumbai,there is a very active >>Association of KP devotees who follow strictly the sublord theory >>for all prognosis.This groups interact only in Marathi and publish a >>journal for its members. >> >> Regards,Satish >> >> >> , rongaunt wrote: >>> As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord of >>> Horary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord the >>> answer is yes'. >>> >>> Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lord >>> quoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparison >>> chart ie. natal. >>> >>> If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horary >>> chart when a comparison chart is not used? >>> >>> Thanks >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Anant, Anant, Re-reading your mail I would appreciate clarification on one point. When you refer to the 'Regular Ascendant' I presume you mean the Ascendant of local time of the query, NOT the Ascendant of the Horary Number. Is this correct? Thanks Ron Gaunt On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:07:23 -0800, you wrote: >Gulburga Theory is only for HORARY , when the question can be answered by a simple YES or NO. > >The rule is If the Sublord of the ASC (Horary) is the Star Lord of Moon (horary), or the Star Lord of the Regular Ascendent at time of casting, then Answer IS YES. Later some have added the Star Lord of FORTUNA also as a criterion. > >The best way of trying this out is to ask yourself some inconseqial questions and test it out using the RANDOM no for the Horary > > >rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: > >As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord of >Horary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord the >answer is yes'. > >Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lord >quoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparison >chart ie. natal. > >If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horary >chart when a comparison chart is not used? > >Thanks > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Obviously the answer is NO. You can also check by KP. "IS the rumour correct" 3rd house Sub Lord should have JUP as sign/star/sub-lord. Then Yes. Otherwise NO sourav6282 <sourav6282 wrote: Dear Mr. Raichur,I just want to know if Sublord of ASC (Horary) is Moon itself, but Moon is neither the starlord of Moon nor the Star Lord of the Regular Ascendent at time of casting, then What is the Answer? "Yes or No"?Regards,-Sourav. , anant raichur wrote:> Gulburga Theory is only for HORARY , when the question can be answered by a simple YES or NO.> > The rule is If the Sublord of the ASC (Horary) is the Star Lord of Moon (horary), or the Star Lord of the Regular Ascendent at time of casting, then Answer IS YES. Later some have added the Star Lord of FORTUNA also as a criterion.> > The best way of trying this out is to ask yourself some inconseqial questions and test it out using the RANDOM no for the Horary> > > rongaunt wrote:> > As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord of> Horary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord the> answer is yes'.> > Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lord> quoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparison> chart ie. natal.> > If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horary> chart when a comparison chart is not used?> > Thanks> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 rongaunt Yes I mean the ASC at the Local time of enquiry. rongaunt <rongaunt wrote: Anant,Anant,Re-reading your mail I would appreciate clarification on onepoint. When you refer to the 'Regular Ascendant' I presume youmean the Ascendant of local time of the query, NOT the Ascendantof the Horary Number. Is this correct?ThanksRon GauntOn Tue, 18 Jan 2005 22:07:23 -0800, you wrote:>Gulburga Theory is only for HORARY , when the question can be answered by a simple YES or NO.> >The rule is If the Sublord of the ASC (Horary) is the Star Lord of Moon (horary), or the Star Lord of the Regular Ascendent at time of casting, then Answer IS YES. Later some have added the Star Lord of FORTUNA also as a criterion.> >The best way of trying this out is to ask yourself some inconseqial questions and test it out using the RANDOM no for the Horary>>>rongaunt wrote:>>As I understand it the Gulbarga theory states - 'if sub lord of>Horary Number is either the Moon or the lagna star lord the>answer is yes'.>>Will someone please let me know whether the Moon or lagna Lord>quoted above refers to the Horary itself, or to the comparison>chart ie. natal.>>If yes to the comparison chart, does it apply to the Horary>chart when a comparison chart is not used?>>Thanks>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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