Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Dear Satish, I have a number of books on eclipses and astrology but unfortunately I cannot recommend them as the techniques not only don't seem to work, but are in fact logically impracticable. Most books and articles are rooted in ancient Chaldean astrology, where eclipses were obviously considered very important. They were always consulted regarding mundane events and the Head of State. The rules formulated over time states that the effect of an eclipse are relative to its length in time ie 1 hour = 1 year. This I find totally impractical as the effect on this basis can be up to four years - during which time there can be as many as another ten eclipses. The ancient (and medieval) way appeared to only consider the subsequent transits of the eclipse point or its aspects. The problems of using the ancient 'rules' can be seen when considering these transits. Take for instance the transit of Mars. This could conjunct the eclipse point twice (or more if retrograde) in the time frame for a solar eclipse. It could aspect by quadrature up to 20 times, and if you use the semi- square it could aspect up to 40 times. There are also the so called 'easy' aspects with approximately the same amount of aspects which we would have to consider. Some books also teach that you should use the opposition and quadratures of the eclipse. The problem is of course compounded when we have to take into account all the other planets. Then there are 'parts', and fixed stars used by astrologers following ancient astrology, which also have to be taken into account. Which one of these many aspects do we use for prediction before the eclipse runs its course over say the next four years? Some people also consider the eclipse ascending signs, and relate them to the countries supposedly ruled by those signs. They then consider the condition of the planets to predict for those countries. As James Wilson in his Dictionary of Astrology says 'the whole of this doctrine is childish and visionary, as every year's experience manifests'. However, I have experimented with eclipses for many years and have come to the conclusion that the Solar Eclipse IS very relevant in human affairs. Accordingly I have formulated my own approach which I believe gives excellent and consistent results. What happens is that the Solar Eclipse interrupts the normal daily cosmic pattern. My theory is that this interruption creates an aberration or a halt in current conditions. There is good scientific evidence of this ie, Prof Brown of Northwest University's experiment with oysters, and Prof Takata's proofs of the effect of the SE effect on human blood. The reappearance of the Sun, kick starts the natal chart, similar to a clinically dead person being resuscitated with a fibrillator. Naturally any natal planet in the purview of any of the SE planets or important points, gets the main effect of this restart. Using this as a basis what I do is look at the last Solar Eclipse before an event, by placing the eclipse on a bi-chart around the natal. (If you don't have the charting software to do this simply print two separate charts and lay them side by side with the signs in the same position) then read the SE chart exactly the same as a normal transit. Pay particular attention to the links between the natal and the SE chart. What the SE chart shows is the genesis or start of the subsequent event - prior to the next Solar Eclipse. It acts like an incubator or crucible. This is different to how most people would interpret an eclipse, where only the eclipse conjunction or aspects are considered. Here we are considering ALL the SE planets etc. One important point is to set your preferences for the Moon to 'Parallax'. This then gives you the correct angles for the location of the event. The Asc and MC are VERY important points and give at least as good indications as the eclipse point itself. If you don't have software to calculate parallax don't worry - most of the SE indications will still be shown by the other contacts. My Solar Eclipse method is very easy. Simply consider it as a transit chart and read accordingly. It is of course a very special transit because the Solar radiation is cut of temporarily. The difference from a normal transit chart is that the effect is not immediate. Those natal planets and sensitive points which are activated, you will see are the ones that produce the result, sometime before the next Solar Eclipse. Make a note of which SE planets aspect the natal. Then follow their ongoing transits. Generally the next or following contact is when the event occurs. I would suggest that you carefully watch Rahu's and Ketu's transits in particular - and the aspects they cast ( I also use the square aspect). Also consider all aspects of SE indicators to KP house cusps AND house lagna bhava (same degree as natal ascendant) positions. From all of these you will see a particular natal planet/s or point/s emphasized. Now concentrate on this planet or planets. What does it represent in the natal chart? Does it act as a benefic or malefic for the native? If you know the native how has this planet performed in the past? etc? When you feel you have a grasp of what it means, follow that planets future transit from the SE chart position. See where it next contacts another natal position by conjunction or aspect. This is when the event is likely to take place. The slower moving planets and nodes are likely to trigger at the next contact, the faster moving planets may be a contact or two later. Just one point here, the slower moving planets may activate the natal when coming within orb of the natal planet in the SE; and may then effect the event on close or exact aspect with the same planet at the later date. It may sound complicated but in fact if you have ever read a transit chart to natal this is fundamentally all you are doing here. As there are no books on this method I would suggest that you have a look on this List where I have done an analysis on the Blind Charts (Shown as KPBC 1 to 10). The only one where I did not do an analysis was KPBC9 when I found out that the time of birth was not confirmed. With a bit of study you will quickly learn to identify what planets are the important one's to watch in the coming months. Hope this helps. All the best Ron Gaunt On Fri, 04 Mar 2005 15:20:02 -0000, you wrote: > > > >Dear Ron, > >Will appreciate your guidance to locate SE analses in >article /sites/books. >Thanks.God Bless! > >Satish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Sandy Crowther " ><sandycrowther@a...> wrote: >> Dear Subhash, >> >> >> >> Thanks for your kind words... >> >> >> >> With respect to KP analysis using the Solar Eclipse Chart to >additionally >> verify an event - below is an email (that was posted to another KP >group) by >> Ron Gaunt, describing his usage of SE Charts. Keeping to the >traditional KP >> teachings is VERY important, but from what I have read to date on >the KP >> writings by Prof. K.S. Krishnamurty, the founder of KP was a very >wise man >> indeed, and had actually encouraged his followers right along to >do more >> research. His main mission was his interest and passion for >finding the >> truth, and finding out what astrologically " worked " and worked >> " consistently " - as is all of ours. I feel that here are many >worthless and >> polluted astrological teachings and techniques out there - and >there are >> also a few teachings and techniques that work (consistently) in >the hands of >> a skilled practitioner. " Consistent " is key in astrological >delineation. >> >> >> >> So, because of my respect for colleague Ron Gaunt (as both a human >being and >> as a dedicated astrologer), after a fashion, I decided to take a >new look at >> an old predictive Western technique that I hadn't revisited in >years and >> years - known as Solar Eclipse - as he (Ron) has been so >encouraged by his >> own personal results in working with SE for quite some time. So >below is an >> excerpt of what he wrote on another KP list with reference to SE. >I hope you >> find it useful... >> >> >> >> (P.S. I, like Kanak, am also in the beginning stages of >researching SE >> charts, but I am beginning to believe that Ron may be on to >something with >> his usage of SE charts. I will continue to research the same - but >the >> results (so far) look very promising. Any technique that can verify >> findings/events that you ALREADY suspect, cannot hurt. The more >arrows we >> get pointing in the same direction - the more chart confluence we >then have. >> Analysis of a chart cannot be done piecemeal or in isolation of >all other >> operating factors - it must be integrated and synthesized >thoroughly before >> a selection is made. Once you feel fairly confident about what is >operating >> in any chart - have a look at the SE to see if it supports your >decision OR >> points you in another direction entirely.) >> >> >> >> >> >> All the Best, >> >> Sandy Crowther >> >> http://www.jupitersweb.com <http://www.jupitersweb.com/> >> >> >> >> (Below is a post from Ron Gaunt to another KP list:) >> >> >> >> " et al, >> >> >> >> I suspect that most members will be aware that my favourite >> >> method of prediction is by Solar Eclipse. The reason for this >> >> is that it is the only method I know which gives nearly perfect >> >> co-relation with forthcoming events. I have often been >> >> amazed that others do not use it themselves, as I have shown its >> >> value in every chart I have discussed over a number of years. >> >> (it doesn't mean that you will give perfect predictions every >> >> time because the contacts need interpreting - but the SE does >> >> show which planets to look for) >> >> >> >> Now the penny has dropped. In private correspondence with a >> >> member of this List it became obvious that the marvelous facility >> >> of 'dynamic transits' offered by Solar Fire is possibly not being >> >> utilized to its best effect. I think it would be very >> >> difficult to get the impact of SEs without using this facility. >> >> >> >> What I do is draw up the natal chart, calculate the last SE. >> >> (This can be found from the 'eclipse' section of the 'dynamic' >> >> drop down. However I would suggest then using the New Moon >> >> Phase under 'Chart' 'Lunar Phase' to get the correct angles for >> >> the desired location). Then under 'dynamic' select 'Animate >> >> Tri Wheel', select 'charts'. For 'Inner wheel' select the >> >> natal chart. For middle wheel select the eclipse (this will be >> >> shown as New Moon if you use the Moon phase calculation), >> >> After selecting the eclipse you will have to go to the box above >> >> and make it a 'fixed base chart'. For the outer wheel leave as >> >> transit. >> >> >> >> What you will be looking for is contact of eclipse planets and >> >> points ie MC, Asc etc with the natal chart. Use whatever >> >> aspects you prefer. I would however particularly suggest that >> >> you also consider the square of the nodes as well as their >> >> trines. Also close Western aspects seem effective. >> >> Watch particularly for close trines as these are the ones that >> >> have the same KP Star and Sub Lords. >> >> >> >> If you print out the Tri-chart and draw in the aspects, you >> >> will immediately see which planets are going to produce the >> >> dramas for the coming months (prior to the next SE). After >> >> doing this step through the dynamic transits on a daily basis >> >> watching the planets you have highlighted. The event >> >> invariably takes place on the next contact of the transiting >> >> planet, occcasionally later. If you see two SE contacts to the >> >> same natal planet or angle, this is very important, and if the >> >> ongoing transits of these planets also impact the natal around >> >> the same time, this is strongly suggestive of the time of the >> >> event. >> >> >> >> Have fun! >> >> >> >> >> >> Ron Gaunt >> >> >> >> PS. I use the Parallax setting under 'Preferences' for the >> >> eclipse, but do not use parallax for the natal or >> >> transit chart. (Parallax angles are very appropriate and >> >> frequent indicators - the same as the planets). If this >> >> seems odd it is simply to stay in accord with our Indian >> >> collegues who do not use parallax. If I were to use it >> >> for the natal, I would end up with different dasas to >> >> them. For the sake of uniformity, and because the >> >> originators of the dasa system may have ignored or not >> >> considered parallax I think it is better at this stage >> >> not to use on natal charts. " >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Subhash [subhash_ektare] >> Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:26 PM >> >> KPBC10 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dear Sandy, Kanak >> >> >> >> Appriciate your analysis pinponting the event. Congrats. By the >way >> >> I have not heard of SE charts you have referred to in your >analysis. >> >> Will you please throw some light? >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Subhash >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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