Trail for Appearance and Characteristics through Horary Number on your preson email only

[Guest guest]

Dear Pram,

 

My name is Deepak

My number: 9

 

Kindly tell me about my Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and

Disease, Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), Finance etc.

 

Reg

 

 

 

On 7/24/07, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote:

>

> Dear Member of Groups

>

> God Bless U

>

> I need now is only your First Famous name and Horary Number within

> 1---108. This will be work for you.

> You can know about Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and

> Disease, Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), etc.

>

> Do intimate under what regards you are asking for with number.

>

> A Foresight Prince of India

> Prem Chopra

>

> ________

> Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

> Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search

> http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hare ramakrishna,

 

dear all ,

 

see its very simple ,see where all rishis failed and we r al

still groping in the dark to prove one system atleast ,see here some

one has done it .it was some thing like this 2+2 is 4 and we dont know

this basics ,no doubt why we failed.Eureka ,-----------

 

all the best.after re surrecting kp now back to Vedic Astrology and

slowly to naadi astrology .

 

wait for more contributions

 

may god giv him peace - shanti!!! shanti !!! shanti !!!

 

regds sunil nair .

vedic astrology , " deepak malhotra "

<deepak.malhotra31 wrote:

>

> Dear Pram,

>

> My name is Deepak

> My number: 9

>

> Kindly tell me about my Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health

and

> Disease, Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), Finance etc.

>

> Reg

>

>

>

> On 7/24/07, Pram Chopra pramchopra1964 wrote:

> >

> > Dear Member of Groups

> >

> > God Bless U

> >

> > I need now is only your First Famous name and Horary Number within

> > 1---108. This will be work for you.

> > You can know about Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and

> > Disease, Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), etc.

> >

> > Do intimate under what regards you are asking for with number.

> >

> > A Foresight Prince of India

> > Prem Chopra

> >

> > ________

> > Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

> > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search

> >

http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Dear Member of Groups

 

God Bless U

 

I need now is only your First Famous name and Horary Number within 1---108. This will be work for you.

You can know about Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and Disease, Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), etc.

 

Do intimate under what regards you are asking for with number.

 

A Foresight Prince of India

Prem Chopra

Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Games.

[Guest guest]

About my Love affairs Sir,

 

Horary Number : 21

 

 

 

Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964

jyotish_prashna ; ;

; naastrology ;

; vedic astrology

Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:01:26 PM

[vedic astrology] Trail for Appearance and Characteristics through

Horary Number on your preson email only

 

Dear Member of Groups

 

God Bless U

 

I need now is only your First Famous name and Horary Number within 1---108. This

will be work for you.

You can know about Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and Disease,

Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), etc.

 

Do intimate under what regards you are asking for with number.

 

A Foresight Prince of India

Prem Chopra

 

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search

http://search. / search?fr= oni_on_mail & p=graduation+ gifts & cs= bz

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Pram Chopra,

 

My Name is Vijayaprasad.D..

Number is 25

 

I'm in love wit a girl..

Will it be successfull..

 

Regards

Vijay

 

 

On 7/24/07, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote:

>

> Dear Member of Groups

>

> God Bless U

>

> I need now is only your First Famous name and Horary Number within

> 1---108. This will be work for you.

> You can know about Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and

> Disease, Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), etc.

>

> Do intimate under what regards you are asking for with number.

>

> A Foresight Prince of India

> Prem Chopra

>

> ________

> Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

> Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search

> http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Vijay

 

God Bless U

 

Horoscope cast for the moment of query(25) reveals that there is great efforts

to be needed to mature the relationship because chart shows that the othere

person will Decline the proposal.

 

A Foresight Prince of India

Pram Chopra

 

 

 

 

VIJAYAPRASAD D <hariprasad.d7

vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:18:52 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Trail for Appearance and Characteristics through

Horary Number on your preson email only

 

Dear Pram Chopra,

 

My Name is Vijayaprasad. D..

Number is 25

 

I'm in love wit a girl..

Will it be successfull. .

 

Regards

Vijay

 

On 7/24/07, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote:

>

> Dear Member of Groups

>

> God Bless U

>

> I need now is only your First Famous name and Horary Number within

> 1---108. This will be work for you.

> You can know about Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and

> Disease, Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), etc.

>

> Do intimate under what regards you are asking for with number.

>

> A Foresight Prince of India

> Prem Chopra

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

> Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search

> http://search. / search?fr= oni_on_mail & p=graduation+ gifts & cs= bz

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sir

 

namaskar

 

my horary no. is 26. when wil i get name & money.

 

Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote:

Dear Vijay

 

God Bless U

 

Horoscope cast for the moment of query(25) reveals that there is great efforts

to be needed to mature the relationship because chart shows that the othere

person will Decline the proposal.

 

A Foresight Prince of India

Pram Chopra

 

 

VIJAYAPRASAD D <hariprasad.d7

vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:18:52 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Trail for Appearance and Characteristics through

Horary Number on your preson email only

 

Dear Pram Chopra,

 

My Name is Vijayaprasad. D..

Number is 25

 

I'm in love wit a girl..

Will it be successfull. .

 

Regards

Vijay

 

On 7/24/07, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote:

>

> Dear Member of Groups

>

> God Bless U

>

> I need now is only your First Famous name and Horary Number within

> 1---108. This will be work for you.

> You can know about Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and

> Disease, Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), etc.

>

> Do intimate under what regards you are asking for with number.

>

> A Foresight Prince of India

> Prem Chopra

>

> ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

> Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search

> http://search. / search?fr= oni_on_mail & p=graduation+ gifts & cs= bz

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear PramJi,

 

Thank you very much..

 

Regards,

Vijay

 

 

On 7/25/07, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote:

>

> Dear Vijay

>

> God Bless U

>

> Horoscope cast for the moment of query(25) reveals that there is great

> efforts to be needed to mature the relationship because chart shows that the

> othere person will Decline the proposal.

>

> A Foresight Prince of India

> Pram Chopra

>

>

> VIJAYAPRASAD D <hariprasad.d7 <hariprasad.d7%40gmail.com>>

> vedic astrology <vedic astrology%40>

> Wednesday, July 25, 2007 1:18:52 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Trail for Appearance and Characteristics

> through Horary Number on your preson email only

>

> Dear Pram Chopra,

>

> My Name is Vijayaprasad. D..

> Number is 25

>

> I'm in love wit a girl..

> Will it be successfull. .

>

> Regards

> Vijay

>

> On 7/24/07, Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear Member of Groups

> >

> > God Bless U

> >

> > I need now is only your First Famous name and Horary Number within

> > 1---108. This will be work for you.

> > You can know about Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and

> > Disease, Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), etc.

> >

> > Do intimate under what regards you are asking for with number.

> >

> > A Foresight Prince of India

> > Prem Chopra

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

> > Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

> > Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search

> > http://search. / search?fr= oni_on_mail & p=graduation+

> gifts & cs= bz

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

and how to know the Horary no. mr. chopra ?

 

Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote: Dear Member of Groups

 

God Bless U

 

I need now is only your First Famous name and Horary Number within 1---108. This

will be work for you.

You can know about Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and Disease,

Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), etc.

 

Do intimate under what regards you are asking for with number.

 

A Foresight Prince of India

Prem Chopra

 

________

Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search

http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Shindi

 

God Bless U

 

your love Affairs signals that she might be Intelligent, prefers educated

partner, strong attachment, permanent one, unassuming, free and social,

sympathetic, and accommodative.

 

A Foresight Prince of India

Pram Chopra

 

 

 

Shindi <sinhazz

vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:06:30 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Trail for Appearance and Characteristics through

Horary Number on your preson email only

 

About my Love affairs Sir,

 

Horary Number : 21

 

 

Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ >

jyotish_prashna; ;

; naastrology; @

gmail.com; vedic astrology

Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:01:26 PM

[vedic astrology] Trail for Appearance and Characteristics through

Horary Number on your preson email only

 

Dear Member of Groups

 

God Bless U

 

I need now is only your First Famous name and Horary Number within 1---108. This

will be work for you.

You can know about Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and Disease,

Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), etc.

 

Do intimate under what regards you are asking for with number.

 

A Foresight Prince of India

Prem Chopra

 

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search

http://search. / search?fr= oni_on_mail & p=graduation+ gifts & cs= bz

 

 

[Guest guest]

any one number what comes in your mind after asking query. within 1---108

Pram Chopra

 

 

 

sanjay sharma <drdevgun1

vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:39:57 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Trail for Appearance and Characteristics through

Horary Number on your preson email only

 

and how to know the Horary no. mr. chopra ?

 

Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote: Dear Member of Groups

 

God Bless U

 

I need now is only your First Famous name and Horary Number within 1---108. This

will be work for you.

You can know about Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and Disease,

Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), etc.

 

Do intimate under what regards you are asking for with number.

 

A Foresight Prince of India

Prem Chopra

 

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search

http://search. / search?fr= oni_on_mail & p=graduation+ gifts & cs= bz

 

 

[Guest guest]

THIS DISCUSSION WAS APPEARED IN ANOTHER JYOTHISH GROUP

 

Hare ramakrishna,

 

dear raoji,

 

I was fighting a lone fight against these kind of

waste elements ,who misuse this science as majority of the readers r not

informed well about the subjuct ,they take it as a chance and utilise

this ignorence to lure in the name reserch or new age theoreys and

predict like a newspaper astrologers ,which is never addressed to query

and or just use the same liners used by queriest and ppl thinks

astrology is this small and it further creat more disrespect to

astrology and to serious astrologers ,if u r serious u r fighting a

lone battle against TV ( as since TVs become 24x7 they want some thing

to keep going and net in the free reading ) generated theoreys from

astrologers who simply say ,change ur name u will be rich or some body

started recommending their own mantras ,as majority of the public dont

know wat is it ,and i find some one recommending his own remedies if u

get a mantra energised bats ( a blood sucking vampire) picture --it will

suck all your bad karmas like a vampire sucking blood,and even making

their fancy lite things which u can see in markets if u go to singapore

or taiwan markets which babies may be playing like toys ,such boby toy

replica s sold as remedies for 4 or 5 thousand ruppees tru their

marketing ability and they rush from TV studio to studio and this nexus

with astrologers and visualmedia journalists u can see any jyothish

discussions this elements are answering abt tsunami or grahan or pitru

poojas or some gaudy ornamented ladies who sit in the name tarrot cards

and shuffle and spell to us their ignorence .Its nothing greater than

parrot astrology which practised by some nomadic tribes but i find many

them has many parampara secrets .

 

 

 

Here irrespective of repeated warning to him ,he is careless and many

honourable members who thinks they can get a free prediction without

any headache and this kind of approach will finaly lead to corrossion of

great science .As many are not ready support real astrologers and

support them moraly ,financialy and even culturaly and and otherwise

also no people with real brains are not coming into this field from

child hood and took up as profession as its glamour and position has

lost since independence.Now a days only in emergency when all their

efforts failed and they r after some remedies like the counter

medicines like aspirin for their problems ,Being an astrologer myself

full time into profession and i can quote u 1000s of stories of people

who ruined by these elements ,even one police officer told me .the

convicts on bail from Tihar jail ( as i am in delhi) they hav people and

resourses ready to make them fake tantriks and astrologers and there

main target is this people after immediate remedies esp rich and

ignorent ladies ( even education is not help ful here ),their advts go

like this ---solve ur problems within a hour or we will issue gaurantee

cards for servises rendered by us ,and they will do this for one month

or 2 months and vanish .Off course these people will never charge for

consultation as they r looking for remedial part.If u can get 50000/- on

remedies who want those who 100s offerred as consultation ,they say

business failing no problem ,u giv a bali of 5 or 10 goats to my devata

,they will take care of u and poor fellow end up as a pauper and has run

away from city .

 

But people who read this advts thinks even though,they dont utilised

those servises and they dont hav any personal experiences ,astrologers

r like this ,u just meet them and ur problem vanished,your girl frnd who

ditch u is coming back within an hour and your 5 crore debts will finish

in a day and uncurable disease will be cured by eating a mantra charged

bhasma.

 

So who will care u ,if u say ur this period is bad u must take care or

this girl better forget or dont do this business as its not suitable for

u .?

 

Your question abt remedial measures i will write a separate mail as

its not the subjuct we r discussing .The problem is its a wast subjuct

and it need s lot of preparation to write such mails .

 

Now yes even if some one says he invented a system --we can agree for

arguement sake ,but he himself is faltering we hav seen only ppl who

dont know whats is between generaly used words and real astrology has

falled in trap .suppose if i say u r anice person --will u objuct ,if i

say u r being cheated by the ppl whom u trust most, can u objuct --as

this is normal in world as no body can cheat any body unless u trust him

..I will share on of my observations the people with less budhi and less

greed no body can cheat them as no body can lure them into any scheme as

they dont care if u say invest here ur money will be doubled .This kind

of superflous words are used by western astrologers and their astrology

on phychological level not on event based and as they dont hav a dasa

system they cannot pin point any results ,even the street astrologers

has some set of words like this .

 

So if u want u can go for poll in forum and let others decide what to

do or moderater if is astro-loving person can take their discreetion.

 

because atleast u opened ur mouth ,this kind of gimicks in the name of

astrology is misleading new enthusiasts and some people who are just

observers and wanted to know what this all about.

 

This is my last warning to Mr.Pram chopra to stop this kind of non

astro gymnastics and be straight in your dealing with people and dont

waist people time and space in forums on this unneccssarry discussions

,This is to all groups you are working and i am also a memeber of most

of the forums u r into .

 

 

 

with regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

(THIS WAS A DISCUSSION HAPPENED IN ANOTHER JYOTHISH FORUM ON THIS

SUBJUCT AND I AM RE PRODUCING FOR THE BENEFIT OF ALL MEMEBRS)

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology , sanjay sharma <drdevgun1

wrote:

>

> and how to know the Horary no. mr. chopra ?

>

> Pram Chopra pramchopra1964 wrote: Dear Member of Groups

>

> God Bless U

>

> I need now is only your First Famous name and Horary Number within

1---108. This will be work for you.

> You can know about Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and

Disease, Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), etc.

>

> Do intimate under what regards you are asking for with number.

>

> A Foresight Prince of India

> Prem Chopra

>

> ________

> Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

> Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search

> http://search./search?fr=oni_on_mail & p=graduation+gifts & cs=bz

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear sir,

 

 

 

I want to know my love affair also

 

My number : 5

 

 

 

Bye n best regards

 

 

 

_____

 

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Pram Chopra

25 Julai 2007 23:46

vedic astrology

Re: [vedic astrology] Trail for Appearance and Characteristics

through Horary Number on your preson email only

 

 

 

Dear Shindi

 

God Bless U

 

your love Affairs signals that she might be Intelligent, prefers

educated partner, strong attachment, permanent one, unassuming, free and

social, sympathetic, and accommodative.

 

A Foresight Prince of India

Pram Chopra

 

 

Shindi <sinhazz <sinhazz%40> >

vedic astrology

<vedic astrology%40>

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:06:30 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Trail for Appearance and Characteristics

through Horary Number on your preson email only

 

About my Love affairs Sir,

 

Horary Number : 21

 

 

Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ >

jyotish_prashna; @ .

com; ; naastrology;

@ gmail.com; vedic astrology

Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:01:26 PM

[vedic astrology] Trail for Appearance and Characteristics

through Horary Number on your preson email only

 

Dear Member of Groups

 

God Bless U

 

I need now is only your First Famous name and Horary Number within

1---108. This will be work for you.

You can know about Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and

Disease, Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), etc.

 

Do intimate under what regards you are asking for with number.

 

A Foresight Prince of India

Prem Chopra

 

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search

http://search. / search?fr= oni_on_mail & p=graduation+

gifts & cs= bz

 

 

[Guest guest]

Tell me about Finance and Fortune or what ever else u would like to tell. Horary

no. 7

Dr. Sanjay

 

Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964 wrote:

any one number what comes in your mind after asking query. within

1---108

Pram Chopra

 

 

sanjay sharma <drdevgun1

vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 25, 2007 2:39:57 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Trail for Appearance and Characteristics through

Horary Number on your preson email only

 

and how to know the Horary no. mr. chopra ?

 

Pram Chopra <pramchopra1964@ > wrote: Dear Member of Groups

 

God Bless U

 

I need now is only your First Famous name and Horary Number within 1---108. This

will be work for you.

You can know about Personal Appearance, Characteristics, Health and Disease,

Finance and Fortune, Romance ( Love Affairs), etc.

 

Do intimate under what regards you are asking for with number.

 

A Foresight Prince of India

Prem Chopra

 

____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _

Luggage? GPS? Comic books?

Check out fitting gifts for grads at Search

http://search. / search?fr= oni_on_mail & p=graduation+ gifts & cs= bz