Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 This month for you from 01.09.2008 to 30.09.2008 All prediction are on moon sign/rashi’s. This is also applicable to respective rashi’s lagna’s. General prediction for this year. Those who are aspiring to go overseas for business/job/pleasure will get overseas opportunities. Notes: Mangal in conjunction with mercury in Kanya rashi is another symbolizing conjunction. The commander in chief Mangal in Budh’s house with Budh which is exalted in Kanya Rashi. Mangal signifies energy level & Budh signifies youth. Conjunction of energy & youth will signifying results with respect to the house they are placed in ones’ kundali. Mangal transits into Tula rashi on 25.09.08 Sun transits into Kanya rashi on 16.09.08 . Mercury will remain in Kanya rashi this entire month & will get retrograde or vakri on 24..09.08. Jupiter gets Margi or in its direct motion on 08.09.08 Shukra remains neech/debilated in Kanya rashi & enters its own Mool Trikon rashi Tula on 19.09.08. Sani remains Margi or in its direct motion in this month There will be Kaala Saarpa Dosha situation in all lagnas in this month from 1st sept to 18th Sept 08. Those having Kaala Saarpa dosha in their respective kundli & those who have not done prayers for dosha shanty may experience difficult times. Surya when transits to Kanya rashi it comes under rahu’s aspect. Heart attacks/bone problems/eye problems/stomach ailments will increase till Surya remains in this rashi. Aries: Overall health remains a matter of concern this entire month. Stomach problems/ high BP will get stretched. Finance needs attention. Loans/borrowings on the cards this month. Expect thefts happening till 18.09.08. Mental anxiety is not ruled out. Debilated Venus in your 6th house may lead to separation from your spouse; you may also indulge in extra marital affairs. Sudden windfall gains may occur till 25.09.08. Fortunes remains good this entire month, in fact will improve after 8th sept. Those in political field will remain very active. Expect good news from overseas for job/interview/business. Your enemies will get active after 16th but you will be prepared to tackle them efficiently. Victory is yours. Romance after the 19th is on the cards. Keep your wallets loaded to please your spouses. Taurus: Health problems remain a matter of concern. You are not able to figure out what is the matter with you. Finances remain good this entire month.. Energy level is good. Good time to devote attention on buying new house/home décor/vehicle/land deals. Expect stomach ailments to increase after the 16th. Problems related to sex organs will increase after the 19th. You may get separated from your spouse after the 25th due to professional commitments/travel. Romance is in the air. Your desire to have more sweets may give you diabetes/obesity. An excellent time to go on a pilgrimage tour. Promotion & transfer is on the cards for those in government jobs. Be prepared to accept some bad news from your overseas contacts. A visit to courts/prison/legal consultants/litigations are also not ruled out. Gemini: Health is excellent this entire month. Your rashi lord remains exalted this entire month. Your intellectual power will be at its peak, an investment in properties/shares/mutual funds/bonds/fixed deposits draws your attention. Finances remain good this entire month. You should be on alert for sudden financial gains. Heart ailments/bones problems are not ruled out. The young eligible looking for their sweet hearts will get after 19th. Your enemies with whom disputes have not been resolved may file legal suit against you. Your spouse remains a pillar of support for you. You will be very aggressively active & involved in reaching your goals. Fortunes are favourable but at a snail’s speed. Be prepared to drill a hole in your wallet for a romantic thrill with your sweet hearts. Cancer: Health is not good. Health issues related to lungs/chest keep propping up. Finances looks good but stretched out. Visit to eye doctor is not ruled out.. Tendency to be rude in your speech may reduce after the 8th. The desire for sense enjoyment with the opposite sex remains high till 19th. After the 19th you draw your attention on house décor/new house/new vehicles/home appliances etc. Creativity will be at its peak. You will sharpen your contacts with influential people after the 16th, but overstress may also lead to heart ailments. Children may disappoint you. Your envious enemies will be very active now. Romance is in the air. Constant nagging with your spouse may tempt you to go a divorce. You may get close or develop an intimate relationship with your office colleague of the opposite sex after the 19th. Those seeking to go overseas will get a positive response. But expenses will also increase. Leo: Your lagna lord in its own house, LIONS, live life king size. You will always be victories, a win win situation, whether it is health, wealth. The fading effect of sadi satti also begins now. Your 70% problems are solved. Finances are excellent. You sharpen your political contacts & skills. Those in field of art/films/singing/music will be at their peak. You are flooded with offers, your wallets are fattening day by day. Yes I hope IT dept is not reading this. Your enemies are getting crushed. Those in overseas business are also gaining out of this. Fortunes are favourable. Karma at its peak. Everything is going well for you. Come-on LIONS just get charged and move ahead. Virgo: Health improves after the 25th. You will be showered with appreciation laurels, certificate of appreciation, mementos, respect. Your intellectual will be at its peak. Finances will be at its best after the 19th. This will draw your attention to home décor/new vehicles/ new house. Your sixth sense will also be at its best. A good time to try your hand on lottery/lotto/betting/gambling. You will emerge victories. There is also a possibility your wallet/mobile phone/gold ornaments may get pick pocketed/pilfered on the 14th to 16th. Whatever work you do now, will click & give you results beyond your expectations. Overseas business will also give positive results. Libra: Health will improve after the 19th. So will your expenses after the 24th. But finances will also improve, and aggression to achieve the goals will increase. All those who were unfortunate for not getting response from their foreign counterpart for job/business, should re-approach now. They will certainly get positive responses. Your increased desire to achieve your goals will give excellent results. Those in property/land deals will get increased returns on their investments. Thefts may happen at your young siblings/friends home/office. But romance is in the air. Dispute/arguments with your spouses is increasing. Expenses will increase after the 16th. Scorpio: Health is a matter of concern, but your desire for overseas travel is a mouth watering recipe for you. You will travel this month. Finances are stable for you, why then worry. Excessive travel may down you stamina & energy level. Deals related to land/agriculture produce will fetch handsome returns. Your enemies may trouble you this time by filing law suits against you. Eligible singles will find their sweet hearts. Your innovative skills & research will fetch you handsome returns. The desire to sense enjoyments will increase after the 19th so will your expenses. Just enjoy & be happy. Sagittarius: Health is good so is your aggression reduced after the 24th. Finances will be coming but at a slow rate. Sudden windfall gains are also possible. Your hard work will fetch you the required laurels by the 15th. You will go to extremes in doing your job. This may agitate your colleagues which may create friction. Those in government organizations will get promotion & increased pay packets after the 16th. Those who have desire to go overseas will certainly travel after the 19th. But expenses will certainly increase, drilling fat holes in your wallets. Capricorn: Health is not stable. Finances are somewhat disappointing. Your frustration is increasing as surya in its own house is not giving the required results. Your efforts & your energy level are getting wasted with meager results to the kind of efforts you are putting on. Thoughts of committing suicide are also ruling your mind. This is the best time to take spiritual shelter and seek some solace to your frustrations. But don’t you worry dear; your fortunes will improve this time & will remain steady for the next two months. Your work will be appreciated. Overseas contacts will come to your rescue. Fortune favours the brave. Aquarius: Health is fluctuating. But finances are steady and improving day by day. Your energy level will improve after the 24th. Creativity will be at its best. You will renovate your home/office. Research activity will get a boost now this time. Your friction with your spouse may result in divorce after the 15th. But be careful while driving. Accidents may be fatal or may make you physically handicapped. Fortunes will improve after the 19th. Those in government organizations will receive promotions & increased pay packets after the 24th. Overseas news is very very pleasing and satisfying. Visits to hospitals/courts/prisons/deserted places will go on. Pisces: Health will improve after the 24th. But finances will also detioriate. You will be innovative in your skills. Those in artistic skill field will gain appreciation & also finances. Your capacity to handle enemies & disease will reduce after the 16th. Your spouse’s health will improve after the 19th. But fortunes will not be favourable after the 24th. Your work will be appreciated very much by your seniors resulting in promotion & increase salary. Overseas news will be very disappointing & frustrating. So will expenses increase? Law suits & litigations will increase a burden on you. With Warm Regards Haresh(Harry)Nathani Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant Insurance Advisor Cell +91 98672 14103 Tele/Fax +91 22 24031469 (Mumbai,India) Connect with friends all over the world. Get India Messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 4, 2008 Report Share Posted September 4, 2008 Dear Nathani, Namaskar, Thanks for your monthly forecast. At least some member may take benefit. But you have not clarified as to whether signs are related to Moon sign or ascendant sign or Western sayan system or Indian nirayan system. Even then no problem. Because members can themselves decide which sign or which sentence is more favourable to them. OK. I am unable to understand as to why you are creating problems for God, who is deciding some thing for some one and why you are leaking his wishes. Hi. Hi. You are very much interested and also doing business of astrology. May I ask some question? Do you believe that by applying some principles you are able to foretell the destiny, or you are just practicing as a tool for earning? In view of your anticipated answer I am further asking to intimate any principle, which in your opinion is correct. I know you will not intimate. Hence I will request you to go through " Astrology a science or myth " in file section or read 1st msg. So if you are supporter of astrology then you must have answer to these simple questions. I hope you will neither sleep in silence zone nor left the forum and may come forward in support of your stand and will provide simple answer to various questions. As some members have left the forum for saving their business. One member left after seeking some clarification when he was claiming 100 % correct forecast. Another left when he was supporting Khullar system. Another left / silent when ask some clarification on his socalled principle of diabetes. We are discussing various points related to astrology (refer SOA_____file in file section) and you can pickup any point for discussion. I hope you will support your stand with your knowledge and may not let down astrologers. Rest assured you may continue with your business of predictive astrology as usual on various other forums and we will not disturb you there and this forum is not joined by your clients hence you may safely continue and don't bother for any failure. Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic discussion. Thanks Yours truly, Sanat , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405 wrote: > > This month for you from  01.09.2008 to 30.09.2008 > All prediction are on moon sign/rashi’s. This is also applicable to respective rashi’s lagna’s. > General prediction for this year. Those who are aspiring to go overseas for business/job/pleasure will get overseas opportunities. > Notes:  Mangal in conjunction with mercury in Kanya rashi  is another symbolizing conjunction. The commander in chief Mangal in Budh’s house with Budh which is exalted in Kanya Rashi. Mangal signifies energy level & Budh signifies youth. Conjunction of energy & youth will signifying results with respect to the house they are placed in ones’ kundali. Mangal transits into Tula  rashi on 25.09.08 Sun transits into Kanya rashi on 16.09.08 . Mercury will remain  in Kanya rashi this entire month & will get retrograde or vakri on 24.09.08. Jupiter gets Margi or in its direct motion on 08.09.08 Shukra remains neech/debilated in Kanya rashi & enters its own Mool Trikon rashi Tula on 19.09.08. Sani   remains Margi or in its direct motion in this month > There will be Kaala Saarpa Dosha situation in all lagnas in this month from 1st sept to 18th Sept 08. Those having Kaala Saarpa dosha in their respective kundli & those who have not done prayers for dosha shanty may experience difficult times. Surya when transits to Kanya rashi it comes under rahu’s aspect. Heart attacks/bone problems/eye problems/stomach ailments will increase till Surya remains in this rashi. > Aries:  Overall health remains a matter of concern this entire month. Stomach problems/ high BP will get stretched. Finance needs attention. Loans/borrowings on the cards this month. Expect thefts happening till 18.09.08. Mental anxiety is not ruled out. Debilated Venus in your 6th house may lead to separation from your spouse; you may also indulge in extra marital affairs.   Sudden windfall gains may occur till 25.09.08. Fortunes remains good this entire month, in fact will improve after 8th sept. Those in political field will remain very active. Expect good news from overseas for job/interview/business. Your enemies will get active after 16th but you will be prepared to tackle them efficiently. Victory is yours. Romance after the 19th is on the cards. Keep your wallets loaded to please your spouses. >  > Taurus:  Health problems remain a matter of concern. You are not able to figure out what is the matter with you. Finances remain good this entire month. Energy level is good.  Good time to devote attention on buying new house/home décor/vehicle/land deals. Expect stomach ailments to increase after the 16th. Problems related to sex organs will increase after the 19th. You may get separated from your spouse after the 25th due to professional commitments/travel. Romance is in the air. Your desire to have more sweets may give you diabetes/obesity. An excellent time to go on a pilgrimage tour. Promotion & transfer is on the cards for those in government jobs. Be prepared to accept some bad news from your overseas contacts. A visit to courts/prison/legal consultants/litigations are also not ruled out. > Gemini:Health is excellent this entire month. Your rashi lord remains exalted this entire month. Your intellectual power will be at its peak, an investment in properties/shares/mutual funds/bonds/fixed deposits draws your attention. Finances remain good this entire month. You should be on alert for sudden financial gains. Heart ailments/bones problems are not ruled out. The young eligible looking for their sweet hearts will get after 19th. Your enemies with whom disputes have not been resolved may file legal suit against you. Your spouse remains a pillar of support for you. You will be very aggressively active & involved in reaching your goals. Fortunes are favourable but at a snail’s speed. Be prepared to drill a hole in your wallet for a romantic thrill with your sweet hearts. > Cancer:Health is not good. Health issues related to lungs/chest keep propping up. Finances looks good but stretched out. Visit to eye doctor is not ruled out. Tendency to be rude in your speech may reduce after the 8th. The desire for sense enjoyment with the opposite sex remains high till 19th. After the 19th you draw your attention on house décor/new house/new vehicles/home appliances etc. Creativity will be at its peak. You will sharpen your contacts with influential people after the 16th, but overstress may also lead to heart ailments. Children may disappoint you. Your envious enemies will be very active now. Romance is in the air. Constant nagging with your spouse may tempt you to go a divorce. You may get close or develop an intimate relationship with your office colleague of the opposite sex after the 19th. Those seeking to go overseas will get a positive response. But expenses will also increase. > Leo:Your lagna lord in its own house, LIONS, live life king size. You will always be victories, a win win situation, whether it is health, wealth. The fading effect of sadi satti also begins now. Your 70% problems are solved. Finances are excellent. You sharpen your political contacts & skills. Those in field of art/films/singing/music will be at their peak. You are flooded with offers, your wallets are fattening day by day. Yes I hope IT dept is not reading this. Your enemies are getting crushed. Those in overseas business are also gaining out of this. Fortunes are favourable. Karma at its peak.  Everything is going well for you. Come-on LIONS just get charged and move ahead. > Virgo:Health improves after the 25th. You will be showered with appreciation laurels, certificate of appreciation, mementos, respect. Your intellectual will be at its peak. Finances will be at its best after the 19th. This will draw your attention to home décor/new vehicles/ new house. Your sixth sense will also be at its best. A good time to try your hand on lottery/lotto/betting/gambling. You will emerge victories. There is also a possibility your wallet/mobile phone/gold ornaments may get pick pocketed/pilfered on the 14th to 16th. Whatever work you do now, will click & give you results beyond your expectations. Overseas business will also give positive results. > Libra:Health will improve after the 19th. So will your expenses after the 24th. But finances will also improve, and aggression to achieve the goals will increase. All those who were unfortunate for not getting response from their foreign counterpart for job/business, should re-approach now. They will certainly get positive responses. Your increased desire to achieve your goals will give excellent results. Those in property/land deals will get increased returns on their investments. Thefts may happen at your young siblings/friends home/office. But romance is in the air. Dispute/arguments with your spouses is increasing. Expenses will increase after the 16th. > Scorpio:Health is a matter of concern, but your desire for overseas travel is a mouth watering recipe for you. You will travel this month. Finances are stable for you, why then worry. Excessive travel may down you stamina & energy level. Deals related to land/agriculture produce will fetch handsome returns. Your enemies may trouble you this time by filing law suits against you. Eligible singles will find their sweet hearts. Your innovative skills & research will fetch you handsome returns. The desire to sense enjoyments will increase after the 19th so will your expenses. Just enjoy & be happy.  > Sagittarius:Health is good so is your aggression reduced after the 24th. Finances will be coming but at a slow rate. Sudden windfall gains are also possible. Your hard work will fetch you the required laurels by the 15th. You will go to extremes in doing your job. This may agitate your colleagues which may create friction. Those in government organizations will get promotion & increased pay packets after the 16th. Those who have desire to go overseas will certainly travel after the 19th. But expenses will certainly increase, drilling fat holes in your wallets. > Capricorn:Health is not stable. Finances are somewhat disappointing. Your frustration is increasing as surya in its own house is not giving the required results. Your efforts & your energy level are getting wasted with meager results to the kind of efforts you are putting on. Thoughts of committing suicide are also ruling your mind. This is the best time to take spiritual shelter and seek some solace to your frustrations. But don’t you worry dear; your fortunes will improve this time & will remain steady for the next two months. Your work will be appreciated. Overseas contacts will come to your rescue. Fortune favours the brave. > Aquarius:Health is fluctuating. But finances are steady and improving day by day. Your energy level will improve after the 24th. Creativity will be at its best. You will renovate your home/office. Research activity will get a boost now this time. Your friction with your spouse may result in divorce after the 15th. But be careful while driving. Accidents may be fatal or may make you physically handicapped. Fortunes will improve after the 19th. Those in government organizations will receive promotions & increased pay packets after the 24th. Overseas news is very very pleasing and satisfying. Visits to hospitals/courts/prisons/deserted places will go on. > Pisces:Health will improve after the 24th. But finances will also detioriate. You will be innovative in your skills. Those in artistic skill field will gain appreciation & also finances. Your capacity to handle enemies & disease will reduce after the 16th.. Your spouse’s health will improve after the 19th. But fortunes will not be favourable after the 24th. Your work will be appreciated very much by your seniors resulting in promotion & increase salary. Overseas news will be very disappointing & frustrating. So will expenses increase? Law suits & litigations will increase a burden on you. >  > With Warm Regards > Haresh(Harry)Nathani > Vedic Astologer, > Vaastu Consultant > Insurance Advisor > Cell +91 98672 14103 > Tele/Fax +91 22 24031469 > (Mumbai,India) > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go to http://in.webmessenger./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2008 Report Share Posted September 5, 2008 Dear Sannat I hv replied to ur query step by step But you have not clarified as to whether signs are related to Moon sign or ascendant sign or Western sayan system or Indian nirayan system. Pls read the opening line of my prediction All prediction are on moon sign/rashiâ. This is also applicable to respective rashiâs lagnaâ. I am unable to understand as to why you are creating problems for God, who is deciding some thing for some one and why you are leaking his wishes. Hi. Hi. Pls understand that an astrologer does not interfers in Gods work. God has already given all the required powers to all the planets which govern us, & we all react according to the placement of planets in our kundalis which ruke us. An astrologer only presents the kind of results according to the placement of planets. This helps us for a better planning of our activities. Do you believe that by applying some principles you are able to foretell the destiny, or you are just practicing as a tool for earning? I am a professional astrologer, & apply the principals of astrology, but I also do charge people who need expert assisstance from me. If people leave the group, nothing can be done. As long as u remain within the norms or purpose of the group being run this groups goes on. If some leave more will come. With Warm Regards Haresh(Harry)Nathani Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant Insurance Advisor Cell +91 98672 14103 Mumbai,India) sanat2221 <sanatkumar_jain Sent: Thursday, 4 September, 2008 11:11:32 PM Re: This month prediction for Sept 08 Dear Nathani,Namaskar,Thanks for your monthly forecast. At least some member may take benefit. But you have not clarified as to whether signs are related to Moon sign or ascendant sign or Western sayan system or Indian nirayan system. Even then no problem. Because members can themselves decide which sign or which sentence is more favourable to them. OK.I am unable to understand as to why you are creating problems for God, who is deciding some thing for some one and why you are leaking his wishes. Hi. Hi.You are very much interested and also doing business of astrology. May I ask some question?Do you believe that by applying some principles you are able to foretell the destiny, or you are just practicing as a tool for earning?In view of your anticipated answer I am further asking to intimate any principle, which in your opinion is correct.I know you will not intimate. Hence I will request you to go through "Astrology a science or myth" in file section or read 1st msg. So if you are supporter of astrology then you must have answer to these simple questions.I hope you will neither sleep in silence zone nor left the forum and may come forward in support of your stand and will provide simple answer to various questions. As some members have left the forum for saving their business.One member left after seeking some clarification when he was claiming 100 % correct forecast.Another left when he was supporting Khullar system.Another left / silent when ask some clarification on his socalled principle of diabetes.We are discussing various points related to astrology (refer SOA_____file in file section) and you can pickup any point for discussion. I hope you will support your stand with your knowledge and may not let down astrologers. Rest assured you may continue with your business of predictive astrology as usual on various other forums and we will not disturb you there and this forum is not joined by your clients hence you may safely continue and don't bother for any failure.Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic discussion.ThanksYours truly,Sanat, "Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani" <haresh1405@ ...> wrote:>> This month for you from  01.09.2008 to 30.09.2008> All prediction are on moon sign/rashi’s. This is also applicable to respective rashi’s lagna’s.> General prediction for this year. Those who are aspiring to go overseas for business/job/ pleasure will get overseas opportunities.> Notes:  Mangal in conjunction with mercury in Kanya rashi  is another symbolizing conjunction. The commander in chief Mangal in Budh’s house with Budh which is exalted in Kanya Rashi. Mangal signifies energy level & Budh signifies youth.. Conjunction of energy & youth will signifying results with respect to the house they are placed in ones’ kundali. Mangal transits into Tula  rashi on 25.09.08 Sun transits into Kanya rashi on 16.09.08 . Mercury will remain  in Kanya rashi this entire month & will get retrograde or vakri on 24.09.08. Jupiter gets Margi or in its direct motion on 08.09.08 Shukra remains neech/debilated in Kanya rashi & enters its own Mool Trikon rashi Tula on 19.09.08. Sani   remains Margi or in its direct motion in this month> There will be Kaala Saarpa Dosha situation in all lagnas in this month from 1st sept to 18th Sept 08. Those having Kaala Saarpa dosha in their respective kundli & those who have not done prayers for dosha shanty may experience difficult times. Surya when transits to Kanya rashi it comes under rahu’s aspect. Heart attacks/bone problems/eye problems/stomach ailments will increase till Surya remains in this rashi. > Aries:  Overall health remains a matter of concern this entire month. Stomach problems/ high BP will get stretched. Finance needs attention. Loans/borrowings on the cards this month. Expect thefts happening till 18.09.08. Mental anxiety is not ruled out. Debilated Venus in your 6th house may lead to separation from your spouse; you may also indulge in extra marital affairs.   Sudden windfall gains may occur till 25.09.08. Fortunes remains good this entire month, in fact will improve after 8th sept. Those in political field will remain very active. Expect good news from overseas for job/interview/ business. Your enemies will get active after 16th but you will be prepared to tackle them efficiently. Victory is yours. Romance after the 19th is on the cards. Keep your wallets loaded to please your spouses. >  > Taurus:  Health problems remain a matter of concern. You are not able to figure out what is the matter with you. Finances remain good this entire month. Energy level is good.  Good time to devote attention on buying new house/home décor/vehicle/ land deals. Expect stomach ailments to increase after the 16th. Problems related to sex organs will increase after the 19th. You may get separated from your spouse after the 25th due to professional commitments/ travel. Romance is in the air. Your desire to have more sweets may give you diabetes/obesity. An excellent time to go on a pilgrimage tour. Promotion & transfer is on the cards for those in government jobs. Be prepared to accept some bad news from your overseas contacts. A visit to courts/prison/ legal consultants/ litigations are also not ruled out. > Gemini:Health is excellent this entire month. Your rashi lord remains exalted this entire month. Your intellectual power will be at its peak, an investment in properties/shares/ mutual funds/bonds/ fixed deposits draws your attention. Finances remain good this entire month. You should be on alert for sudden financial gains. Heart ailments/bones problems are not ruled out. The young eligible looking for their sweet hearts will get after 19th. Your enemies with whom disputes have not been resolved may file legal suit against you. Your spouse remains a pillar of support for you. You will be very aggressively active & involved in reaching your goals. Fortunes are favourable but at a snail’s speed. Be prepared to drill a hole in your wallet for a romantic thrill with your sweet hearts. > Cancer:Health is not good. Health issues related to lungs/chest keep propping up. Finances looks good but stretched out. Visit to eye doctor is not ruled out. Tendency to be rude in your speech may reduce after the 8th. The desire for sense enjoyment with the opposite sex remains high till 19th. After the 19th you draw your attention on house décor/new house/new vehicles/home appliances etc. Creativity will be at its peak. You will sharpen your contacts with influential people after the 16th, but overstress may also lead to heart ailments. Children may disappoint you. Your envious enemies will be very active now. Romance is in the air. Constant nagging with your spouse may tempt you to go a divorce. You may get close or develop an intimate relationship with your office colleague of the opposite sex after the 19th. Those seeking to go overseas will get a positive response. But expenses will also increase. > Leo:Your lagna lord in its own house, LIONS, live life king size. You will always be victories, a win win situation, whether it is health, wealth. The fading effect of sadi satti also begins now. Your 70% problems are solved. Finances are excellent. You sharpen your political contacts & skills. Those in field of art/films/singing/ music will be at their peak. You are flooded with offers, your wallets are fattening day by day. Yes I hope IT dept is not reading this.. Your enemies are getting crushed. Those in overseas business are also gaining out of this. Fortunes are favourable. Karma at its peak.  Everything is going well for you. Come-on LIONS just get charged and move ahead.> Virgo:Health improves after the 25th. You will be showered with appreciation laurels, certificate of appreciation, mementos, respect. Your intellectual will be at its peak. Finances will be at its best after the 19th. This will draw your attention to home décor/new vehicles/ new house. Your sixth sense will also be at its best. A good time to try your hand on lottery/lotto/ betting/gambling . You will emerge victories. There is also a possibility your wallet/mobile phone/gold ornaments may get pick pocketed/pilfered on the 14th to 16th. Whatever work you do now, will click & give you results beyond your expectations. Overseas business will also give positive results. > Libra:Health will improve after the 19th. So will your expenses after the 24th. But finances will also improve, and aggression to achieve the goals will increase. All those who were unfortunate for not getting response from their foreign counterpart for job/business, should re-approach now. They will certainly get positive responses. Your increased desire to achieve your goals will give excellent results. Those in property/land deals will get increased returns on their investments. Thefts may happen at your young siblings/friends home/office.. But romance is in the air. Dispute/arguments with your spouses is increasing. Expenses will increase after the 16th. > Scorpio:Health is a matter of concern, but your desire for overseas travel is a mouth watering recipe for you. You will travel this month. Finances are stable for you, why then worry. Excessive travel may down you stamina & energy level. Deals related to land/agriculture produce will fetch handsome returns. Your enemies may trouble you this time by filing law suits against you. Eligible singles will find their sweet hearts. Your innovative skills & research will fetch you handsome returns. The desire to sense enjoyments will increase after the 19th so will your expenses. Just enjoy & be happy.  > Sagittarius: Health is good so is your aggression reduced after the 24th. Finances will be coming but at a slow rate. Sudden windfall gains are also possible. Your hard work will fetch you the required laurels by the 15th. You will go to extremes in doing your job. This may agitate your colleagues which may create friction. Those in government organizations will get promotion & increased pay packets after the 16th. Those who have desire to go overseas will certainly travel after the 19th. But expenses will certainly increase, drilling fat holes in your wallets.. > Capricorn:Health is not stable. Finances are somewhat disappointing. Your frustration is increasing as surya in its own house is not giving the required results. Your efforts & your energy level are getting wasted with meager results to the kind of efforts you are putting on. Thoughts of committing suicide are also ruling your mind. This is the best time to take spiritual shelter and seek some solace to your frustrations. But don’t you worry dear; your fortunes will improve this time & will remain steady for the next two months. Your work will be appreciated. Overseas contacts will come to your rescue. Fortune favours the brave. > Aquarius:Health is fluctuating. But finances are steady and improving day by day. Your energy level will improve after the 24th. Creativity will be at its best. You will renovate your home/office. Research activity will get a boost now this time. Your friction with your spouse may result in divorce after the 15th. But be careful while driving. Accidents may be fatal or may make you physically handicapped. Fortunes will improve after the 19th. Those in government organizations will receive promotions & increased pay packets after the 24th. Overseas news is very very pleasing and satisfying. Visits to hospitals/courts/ prisons/deserted places will go on. > Pisces:Health will improve after the 24th. But finances will also detioriate. You will be innovative in your skills. Those in artistic skill field will gain appreciation & also finances. Your capacity to handle enemies & disease will reduce after the 16th.. Your spouse’s health will improve after the 19th.. But fortunes will not be favourable after the 24th. Your work will be appreciated very much by your seniors resulting in promotion & increase salary. Overseas news will be very disappointing & frustrating. So will expenses increase? Law suits & litigations will increase a burden on you. >  > With Warm Regards> Haresh(Harry) Nathani> Vedic Astologer, > Vaastu Consultant> Insurance Advisor> Cell +91 98672 14103> Tele/Fax +91 22 24031469> (Mumbai,India)> > > Did you know? 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Guest guest Posted September 6, 2008 Report Share Posted September 6, 2008 Dear Nathani, Namaskar, Thanks for your very quick reply. Opening line of monthly forecast intimate about rashi / lagn, which may be quite different. But no problem. As I am not very much interested. And members may take their own route. >>>>>> An astrologer only presents the kind of results according to the placement of planets. This helps us for a better planning of our activities.<<<<<<<<< You are in the field of insurance. So suppose you advice an individual that so and so problem will be there hence take corrective measure (say insurance, amendment in planning, change in habit, ring, Vaastu etc.) to avoid that problem. For which you are charging fee and taking help of astrology for such prediction. You may be agreeing on this presumption. OK Now suppose you have forecasted sme problem and individual taken some remedial measure on your advise to avoid it and saved him from such problem. Then definitely you have interfered in the destiny of that individual, which was so-called defined for him by God. Because creating the problem to that individual may not be isolated incident. By this incident there is so many connected series of incidents not only in his life but also on the life of so many other persons of his family and society. You may think that perhaps God may want to transfer his money to some one else due to this problem and you have created interference thus money may not be transferred or you can think of so many interconnecting series of incidents in all sort of prediction / correction. Thus destiny of anyone is not isolated and his future is not independent but it is a series with cascading affect on others. Just think. When every one is changing his script of destiny on the advise of astrologers then what will happen to original destiny. On the other hand if you (astrologer) are not able to change the destiny then what is the use of forecast? Or you can change the forecast irrespective of the position of the planets in the horoscope. Thus your remedy is more powerful then the so called affect of Sun / planets. I am not extending it further and hope member will think further with open mind. I know that astrology is your business hence I am not asking you to analyze my horoscope. But I am asking you to provide a single astrological principle which in your opinion is correct; or you have just joined this business for the sake of money without in depth study as to whether some thing can actually be predicted or not. I am sure that you have joined this business for the sake of money like many others, without in depth study (please do not take it as personal allegation it is for other astrologers). I am not bothered as to whether any member is leaving the forum or not. But I am bothered that why such astrologers are befooling innocent public. It may be possible that many astrologer may not have opportunity to think for analyzing astrological principals. But when I am raising many questions on astrology, that too after studying it for +35 years and after writing two original books, even then they are not willing to think and finding answers. At least they must know the truth though they may continue their business. I am not asking to stop their business. For example you have mentioned about Kaal sarp yog in your forecast. 99.9% members including other forums too will not ask any question. But I will like to ask as to in which astrological principle (shastra) there is reference of Kaal sarp yog. Or you are just following the trick. I am quoting few lines from my PS under msg dated 1-8-8 " Today on 1-8-8, there is total solar eclipse when Sun and Moon may be at +105 degree but Ketu is at 115 degree. Now everybody knows that at the time of total solar eclipse Moon is going to intersect the orbit of the Sun and during intersection Sun happens to be on the point of intersection hence we can see total solar eclipse. Now my question to the members of the forum is that what Ketu (which is intersection point of orbits) is doing at 115 degree, whereas it must be at 105 degree the location where Sun and Moon are transiting. Thus can't member realize that position of these shadow planets in the horoscopes is wrong. " So I will like to ask as to when position of Rahu Ketu is not correct in the horoscope then why you are infusing fear complex of Kaal Sarp yog. You are also active on many forums hence you can ask your friends as to why Ketu is not at intersection point. Thus you must know that there is no base in kaal sarp yog, and you have to admit it; but on the other hand you may continue to extract money from fools. I have no objection, because you as an astrologer, has every right to run your business and extract money from fools. I am also waiting for your reply on various questions discussed and referred in SOA____ file including " Astrology a science or myth " . I hope by now you may have gone through these files, and now you will come out with your knowledge. Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic discussion. Thanking you, Yours truly, Sanat PS : I will like to say to the members of the forum that they have an option to observe silence only if they are agree with my views; AND IF THEY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINION THEN THEY MAY COME FORWARD WITH THEIR STAND. I think there may not be any hesitation in the mind of the members. Even if they do not have in depth study of astrology; they may come forward with their faith and either try to support their stand or try to see a new dimension of the astrology, which is the only use of interaction. Think differently, Think logically and Think scientifically , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405 wrote: > > Dear Sannat > I hv replied to ur query step by step > But you have not clarified as to whether signs are related > to Moon sign or ascendant sign or Western sayan system or Indian > nirayan system. > Pls read the opening line of my prediction > All prediction are on moon sign/rashiâ. This is also applicable > to respective rashiâs lagnaâ. > Iam unable to understand as to why you are creating problems for > God, who is deciding some thing for some one and why you are leaking > his wishes. Hi. Hi. > Pls understand that an astrologer does not interfers in Gods work. God has already given all the required powers to all the planets which govern us, & we all react according to the placement of planets in our kundalis which ruke us. An astrologer only presents the kind of results according to the placement of planets. This helps us for a better planning of our activities. > Do you believe that by applying some principles you are able to > foretell the destiny, or you are just practicing as a tool for > earning? > I am a professional astrologer, & apply the principals of astrology, but I also do charge people who need expert assisstance from me. >  > If people leave the group, nothing can be done. As long as u remain within the norms or purpose of the group being run this groups goes on. If some leave more will come. > >  > > >  >  >  > > With Warm Regards > Haresh(Harry)Nathani > Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant > Insurance Advisor > Cell +91 98672 14103 > Mumbai,India) > > > > > sanat2221 <sanatkumar_jain > > Thursday, 4 September, 2008 11:11:32 PM > Re: This month prediction for Sept 08 > > > Dear Nathani, > Namaskar, > Thanks for your monthly forecast. At least some member may take > benefit. But you have not clarified as to whether signs are related > to Moon sign or ascendant sign or Western sayan system or Indian > nirayan system. Even then no problem. Because members can themselves > decide which sign or which sentence is more favourable to them. OK. > > I am unable to understand as to why you are creating problems for > God, who is deciding some thing for some one and why you are leaking > his wishes. Hi. Hi. > > You are very much interested and also doing business of astrology. > May I ask some question? > > Do you believe that by applying some principles you are able to > foretell the destiny, or you are just practicing as a tool for > earning? > In view of your anticipated answer I am further asking to intimate > any principle, which in your opinion is correct. > I know you will not intimate. Hence I will request you to go > through " Astrology a science or myth " in file section or read 1st > msg. So if you are supporter of astrology then you must have answer > to these simple questions. > > I hope you will neither sleep in silence zone nor left the forum and > may come forward in support of your stand and will provide simple > answer to various questions. As some members have left the forum for > saving their business. > One member left after seeking some clarification when he was claiming > 100 % correct forecast. > Another left when he was supporting Khullar system. > Another left / silent when ask some clarification on his socalled > principle of diabetes. > > We are discussing various points related to astrology (refer > SOA_____file in file section) and you can pickup any point for > discussion. I hope you will support your stand with your knowledge > and may not let down astrologers. Rest assured you may continue with > your business of predictive astrology as usual on various other > forums and we will not disturb you there and this forum is not joined > by your clients hence you may safely continue and don't bother for > any failure. > > Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic discussion. > > Thanks > Yours truly, > Sanat > > , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " > <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > > > This month for you from  01.09.2008 to 30.09.2008 > > All prediction are on moon sign/rashi’s. This is also applicable > to respective rashi’s lagna’s. > > General prediction for this year. Those who are aspiring to go > overseas for business/job/ pleasure will get overseas opportunities. > > Notes:  Mangal in conjunction with mercury in Kanya rashi  is > another symbolizing conjunction. The commander in chief Mangal in > Budh’s house with Budh which is exalted in Kanya Rashi. Mangal > signifies energy level & Budh signifies youth. Conjunction of energy > & youth will signifying results with respect to the house they are > placed in ones’ kundali. Mangal transits into Tula  rashi on > 25.09.08 Sun transits into Kanya rashi on 16.09.08 . Mercury will > remain  in Kanya rashi this entire month & will get retrograde or > vakri on 24.09.08. Jupiter gets Margi or in its direct motion on > 08.09.08 Shukra remains neech/debilated in Kanya rashi & enters its > own Mool Trikon rashi Tula on 19.09.08. Sani   remains Margi or in > its direct motion in this month > > There will be Kaala Saarpa Dosha situation in all lagnas in this > month from 1st sept to 18th Sept 08. Those having Kaala Saarpa dosha > in their respective kundli & those who have not done prayers for > dosha shanty may experience difficult times. Surya when transits to > Kanya rashi it comes under rahu’s aspect. Heart attacks/bone > problems/eye problems/stomach ailments will increase till Surya > remains in this rashi. > > Aries:  Overall health remains a matter of concern this entire > month. Stomach problems/ high BP will get stretched. Finance needs > attention. Loans/borrowings on the cards this month. Expect thefts > happening till 18.09.08. Mental anxiety is not ruled out. Debilated > Venus in your 6th house may lead to separation from your spouse; you > may also indulge in extra marital affairs.   Sudden windfall gains > may occur till 25.09.08. Fortunes remains good this entire month, in > fact will improve after 8th sept. Those in political field will > remain very active. Expect good news from overseas for > job/interview/ business. Your enemies will get active after 16th but > you will be prepared to tackle them efficiently. Victory is yours. > Romance after the 19th is on the cards. Keep your wallets loaded to > please your spouses. > >  > > Taurus:  Health problems remain a matter of concern. You are not > able to figure out what is the matter with you. Finances remain good > this entire month. Energy level is good.  Good time to devote > attention on buying new house/home décor/vehicle/ land deals. Expect > stomach ailments to increase after the 16th. Problems related to sex > organs will increase after the 19th. You may get separated from your > spouse after the 25th due to professional commitments/ travel. Romance > is in the air. Your desire to have more sweets may give you > diabetes/obesity. An excellent time to go on a pilgrimage tour. > Promotion & transfer is on the cards for those in government jobs. Be > prepared to accept some bad news from your overseas contacts. A visit > to courts/prison/ legal consultants/ litigations are also not ruled > out. > > Gemini:Health is excellent this entire month. Your rashi lord > remains exalted this entire month. Your intellectual power will be at > its peak, an investment in properties/shares/ mutual funds/bonds/ fixed > deposits draws your attention. Finances remain good this entire > month. You should be on alert for sudden financial gains. Heart > ailments/bones problems are not ruled out. The young eligible looking > for their sweet hearts will get after 19th. Your enemies with whom > disputes have not been resolved may file legal suit against you. Your > spouse remains a pillar of support for you. You will be very > aggressively active & involved in reaching your goals. Fortunes are > favourable but at a snail’s speed. Be prepared to drill a hole in > your wallet for a romantic thrill with your sweet hearts. > > Cancer:Health is not good. Health issues related to lungs/chest > keep propping up. Finances looks good but stretched out. Visit to eye > doctor is not ruled out. Tendency to be rude in your speech may > reduce after the 8th. The desire for sense enjoyment with the > opposite sex remains high till 19th. After the 19th you draw your > attention on house décor/new house/new vehicles/home appliances etc. > Creativity will be at its peak. You will sharpen your contacts with > influential people after the 16th, but overstress may also lead to > heart ailments. Children may disappoint you. Your envious enemies > will be very active now. Romance is in the air. Constant nagging with > your spouse may tempt you to go a divorce. You may get close or > develop an intimate relationship with your office colleague of the > opposite sex after the 19th. Those seeking to go overseas will get > a positive response. But expenses will also increase. > > Leo:Your lagna lord in its own house, LIONS, live life king size. > You will always be victories, a win win situation, whether it is > health, wealth. The fading effect of sadi satti also begins now. Your > 70% problems are solved. Finances are excellent. You sharpen your > political contacts & skills. Those in field of > art/films/singing/ music will be at their peak. You are flooded with > offers, your wallets are fattening day by day. Yes I hope IT dept is > not reading this. Your enemies are getting crushed. Those in overseas > business are also gaining out of this. Fortunes are favourable. Karma > at its peak.  Everything is going well for you. Come-on LIONS just > get charged and move ahead.. > > Virgo:Health improves after the 25th. You will be showered with > appreciation laurels, certificate of appreciation, mementos, respect. > Your intellectual will be at its peak. Finances will be at its best > after the 19th. This will draw your attention to home décor/new > vehicles/ new house. Your sixth sense will also be at its best. A > good time to try your hand on lottery/lotto/ betting/gambling . You > will emerge victories. There is also a possibility your wallet/mobile > phone/gold ornaments may get pick pocketed/pilfered on the 14th to > 16th. Whatever work you do now, will click & give you results beyond > your expectations. Overseas business will also give positive results. > > Libra:Health will improve after the 19th. So will your expenses > after the 24th. But finances will also improve, and aggression to > achieve the goals will increase. All those who were unfortunate for > not getting response from their foreign counterpart for job/business, > should re-approach now. They will certainly get positive responses. > Your increased desire to achieve your goals will give excellent > results. Those in property/land deals will get increased returns on > their investments. Thefts may happen at your young siblings/friends > home/office. But romance is in the air. Dispute/arguments with your > spouses is increasing. Expenses will increase after the 16th. > > Scorpio:Health is a matter of concern, but your desire for overseas > travel is a mouth watering recipe for you. You will travel this > month. Finances are stable for you, why then worry. Excessive travel > may down you stamina & energy level. Deals related to > land/agriculture produce will fetch handsome returns. Your enemies > may trouble you this time by filing law suits against you. Eligible > singles will find their sweet hearts. Your innovative skills & > research will fetch you handsome returns. The desire to sense > enjoyments will increase after the 19th so will your expenses. Just > enjoy & be happy.  > > Sagittarius: Health is good so is your aggression reduced after the > 24th. Finances will be coming but at a slow rate. Sudden windfall > gains are also possible. Your hard work will fetch you the required > laurels by the 15th. You will go to extremes in doing your job. This > may agitate your colleagues which may create friction. Those in > government organizations will get promotion & increased pay packets > after the 16th. Those who have desire to go overseas will certainly > travel after the 19th. But expenses will certainly increase, drilling > fat holes in your wallets. > > Capricorn:Health is not stable. Finances are somewhat > disappointing. Your frustration is increasing as surya in its own > house is not giving the required results. Your efforts & your energy > level are getting wasted with meager results to the kind of efforts > you are putting on. Thoughts of committing suicide are also ruling > your mind. This is the best time to take spiritual shelter and seek > some solace to your frustrations. But don’t you worry dear; your > fortunes will improve this time & will remain steady for the next two > months. Your work will be appreciated. Overseas contacts will come to > your rescue. Fortune favours the brave. > > Aquarius:Health is fluctuating. But finances are steady and > improving day by day. Your energy level will improve after the 24th. > Creativity will be at its best. You will renovate your home/office. > Research activity will get a boost now this time. Your friction with > your spouse may result in divorce after the 15th. But be careful > while driving. Accidents may be fatal or may make you physically > handicapped. Fortunes will improve after the 19th. Those in > government organizations will receive promotions & increased pay > packets after the 24th. Overseas news is very very pleasing and > satisfying. Visits to hospitals/courts/ prisons/deserted places will > go on. > > Pisces:Health will improve after the 24th. But finances will also > detioriate. You will be innovative in your skills. Those in > artistic skill field will gain appreciation & also finances. Your > capacity to handle enemies & disease will reduce after the 16th.. > Your spouse’s health will improve after the 19th. But fortunes will > not be favourable after the 24th. Your work will be appreciated very > much by your seniors resulting in promotion & increase salary.. > Overseas news will be very disappointing & frustrating. So will > expenses increase? Law suits & litigations will increase a burden on > you. > >  > > With Warm Regards > > Haresh(Harry) Nathani > > Vedic Astologer, > > Vaastu Consultant > > Insurance Advisor > > Cell +91 98672 14103 > > Tele/Fax +91 22 24031469 > > (Mumbai,India) > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go > to http://in.webmessen ger.. com/ > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Dear Sannat By going through ur comments it is obvious that u r a very speculative person. Astrology is science & speculation has no role to play. If u understand the planets, its nature, its effects on oneself u urself will make a better astrolger & bring change in not only ur own life but also for other for whom u do prediction. With Warm Regards Haresh(Harry)Nathani Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant Insurance Advisor Cell +91 98672 14103 Mumbai,India) sanat2221 <sanatkumar_jain Sent: Saturday, 6 September, 2008 11:11:34 PM Re: This month prediction for Sept 08 Dear Nathani,Namaskar,Thanks for your very quick reply.Opening line of monthly forecast intimate about rashi / lagn, which may be quite different. But no problem. As I am not very much interested. And members may take their own route.>>>>>> An astrologer only presents the kind of results according to the placement of planets. This helps us for a better planning of our activities.< <<<<<<<<You are in the field of insurance. So suppose you advice an individual that so and so problem will be there hence take corrective measure (say insurance, amendment in planning, change in habit, ring, Vaastu etc.) to avoid that problem. For which you are charging fee and taking help of astrology for such prediction. You may be agreeing on this presumption. OKNow suppose you have forecasted sme problem and individual taken some remedial measure on your advise to avoid it and saved him from such problem. Then definitely you have interfered in the destiny of that individual, which was so-called defined for him by God. Because creating the problem to that individual may not be isolated incident. By this incident there is so many connected series of incidents not only in his life but also on the life of so many other persons of his family and society. You may think that perhaps God may want to transfer his money to some one else due to this problem and you have created interference thus money may not be transferred or you can think of so many interconnecting series of incidents in all sort of prediction / correction. Thus destiny of anyone is not isolated and his future is not independent but it is a series with cascading affect on others. Just think. When every one is changing his script of destiny on the advise of astrologers then what will happen to original destiny. On the other hand if you (astrologer) are not able to change the destiny then what is the use of forecast? Or you can change the forecast irrespective of the position of the planets in the horoscope. Thus your remedy is more powerful then the so called affect of Sun / planets. I am not extending it further and hope member will think further with open mind.I know that astrology is your business hence I am not asking you to analyze my horoscope. But I am asking you to provide a single astrological principle which in your opinion is correct; or you have just joined this business for the sake of money without in depth study as to whether some thing can actually be predicted or not. I am sure that you have joined this business for the sake of money like many others, without in depth study (please do not take it as personal allegation it is for other astrologers) . I am not bothered as to whether any member is leaving the forum or not. But I am bothered that why such astrologers are befooling innocent public. It may be possible that many astrologer may not have opportunity to think for analyzing astrological principals. But when I am raising many questions on astrology, that too after studying it for +35 years and after writing two original books, even then they are not willing to think and finding answers. At least they must know the truth though they may continue their business. I am not asking to stop their business.For example you have mentioned about Kaal sarp yog in your forecast. 99.9% members including other forums too will not ask any question. But I will like to ask as to in which astrological principle (shastra) there is reference of Kaal sarp yog. Or you are just following the trick. I am quoting few lines from my PS under msg dated 1-8-8"Today on 1-8-8, there is total solar eclipse when Sun and Moon may be at +105 degree but Ketu is at 115 degree. Now everybody knows that at the time of total solar eclipse Moon is going to intersect the orbit of the Sun and during intersection Sun happens to be on the point of intersection hence we can see total solar eclipse. Now my question to the members of the forum is that what Ketu (which is intersection point of orbits) is doing at 115 degree, whereas it must be at 105 degree the location where Sun and Moon are transiting. Thus can't member realize that position of these shadow planets in the horoscopes is wrong."So I will like to ask as to when position of Rahu Ketu is not correct in the horoscope then why you are infusing fear complex of Kaal Sarp yog. You are also active on many forums hence you can ask your friends as to why Ketu is not at intersection point. Thus you must know that there is no base in kaal sarp yog, and you have to admit it; but on the other hand you may continue to extract money from fools. I have no objection, because you as an astrologer, has every right to run your business and extract money from fools.I am also waiting for your reply on various questions discussed and referred in SOA____ file including "Astrology a science or myth". I hope by now you may have gone through these files, and now you will come out with your knowledge.Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic discussion.Thanking you,Yours truly,SanatPS : I will like to say to the members of the forum that they have an option to observe silence only if they are agree with my views; AND IF THEY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINION THEN THEY MAY COME FORWARD WITH THEIR STAND. I think there may not be any hesitation in the mind of the members. Even if they do not have in depth study of astrology; they may come forward with their faith and either try to support their stand or try to see a new dimension of the astrology, which is the only use of interaction.Think differently, Think logically and Think scientifically, "Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani" <haresh1405@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sannat> I hv replied to ur query step by step> But you have not clarified as to whether signs are related > to Moon sign or ascendant sign or Western sayan system or Indian > nirayan system.> Pls read the opening line of my prediction> All prediction are on moon sign/rashiâ. This is also applicable > to respective rashiâs lagnaâ.> Iam unable to understand as to why you are creating problems for > God, who is deciding some thing for some one and why you are leaking > his wishes. Hi. Hi.> Pls understand that an astrologer does not interfers in Gods work. God has already given all the required powers to all the planets which govern us, & we all react according to the placement of planets in our kundalis which ruke us. An astrologer only presents the kind of results according to the placement of planets. This helps us for a better planning of our activities.> Do you believe that by applying some principles you are able to > foretell the destiny, or you are just practicing as a tool for > earning?> I am a professional astrologer, & apply the principals of astrology, but I also do charge people who need expert assisstance from me. >  > If people leave the group, nothing can be done. As long as u remain within the norms or purpose of the group being run this groups goes on. If some leave more will come.> >  > > >  >  >  > > With Warm Regards> Haresh(Harry) Nathani> Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant> Insurance Advisor> Cell +91 98672 14103> Mumbai,India)> > > > > sanat2221 <sanatkumar_ jain> > Thursday, 4 September, 2008 11:11:32 PM> Re: This month prediction for Sept 08> > > Dear Nathani,> Namaskar,> Thanks for your monthly forecast. At least some member may take > benefit. But you have not clarified as to whether signs are related > to Moon sign or ascendant sign or Western sayan system or Indian > nirayan system. Even then no problem. Because members can themselves > decide which sign or which sentence is more favourable to them. OK.> > I am unable to understand as to why you are creating problems for > God, who is deciding some thing for some one and why you are leaking > his wishes. Hi. Hi.> > You are very much interested and also doing business of astrology. > May I ask some question?> > Do you believe that by applying some principles you are able to > foretell the destiny, or you are just practicing as a tool for > earning?> In view of your anticipated answer I am further asking to intimate > any principle, which in your opinion is correct.> I know you will not intimate. Hence I will request you to go > through "Astrology a science or myth" in file section or read 1st > msg. So if you are supporter of astrology then you must have answer > to these simple questions.> > I hope you will neither sleep in silence zone nor left the forum and > may come forward in support of your stand and will provide simple > answer to various questions. As some members have left the forum for > saving their business.> One member left after seeking some clarification when he was claiming > 100 % correct forecast.> Another left when he was supporting Khullar system.> Another left / silent when ask some clarification on his socalled > principle of diabetes.> > We are discussing various points related to astrology (refer > SOA_____file in file section) and you can pickup any point for > discussion. I hope you will support your stand with your knowledge > and may not let down astrologers. Rest assured you may continue with > your business of predictive astrology as usual on various other > forums and we will not disturb you there and this forum is not joined > by your clients hence you may safely continue and don't bother for > any failure.> > Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic discussion.> > Thanks> Yours truly,> Sanat> > @ .. com, "Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani" > <haresh1405@ ...> wrote:> >> > This month for you from  01.09.2008 to 30.09.2008> > All prediction are on moon sign/rashi’s. This is also applicable > to respective rashi’s lagna’s.> > General prediction for this year. Those who are aspiring to go > overseas for business/job/ pleasure will get overseas opportunities.> > Notes:  Mangal in conjunction with mercury in Kanya rashi  is > another symbolizing conjunction. The commander in chief Mangal in > Budh’s house with Budh which is exalted in Kanya Rashi. Mangal > signifies energy level & Budh signifies youth. Conjunction of energy > & youth will signifying results with respect to the house they are > placed in ones’ kundali. Mangal transits into Tula  rashi on > 25.09.08 Sun transits into Kanya rashi on 16.09.08 . Mercury will > remain  in Kanya rashi this entire month & will get retrograde or > vakri on 24.09.08. Jupiter gets Margi or in its direct motion on > 08.09.08 Shukra remains neech/debilated in Kanya rashi & enters its > own Mool Trikon rashi Tula on 19.09.08. Sani   remains Margi or in > its direct motion in this month> > There will be Kaala Saarpa Dosha situation in all lagnas in this > month from 1st sept to 18th Sept 08. Those having Kaala Saarpa dosha > in their respective kundli & those who have not done prayers for > dosha shanty may experience difficult times. Surya when transits to > Kanya rashi it comes under rahu’s aspect. Heart attacks/bone > problems/eye problems/stomach ailments will increase till Surya > remains in this rashi. > > Aries:  Overall health remains a matter of concern this entire > month. Stomach problems/ high BP will get stretched. Finance needs > attention. Loans/borrowings on the cards this month. Expect thefts > happening till 18.09.08. Mental anxiety is not ruled out. Debilated > Venus in your 6th house may lead to separation from your spouse; you > may also indulge in extra marital affairs.   Sudden windfall gains > may occur till 25.09.08. Fortunes remains good this entire month, in > fact will improve after 8th sept. Those in political field will > remain very active. Expect good news from overseas for > job/interview/ business. Your enemies will get active after 16th but > you will be prepared to tackle them efficiently. Victory is yours. > Romance after the 19th is on the cards. Keep your wallets loaded to > please your spouses. > >  > > Taurus:  Health problems remain a matter of concern. You are not > able to figure out what is the matter with you. Finances remain good > this entire month. Energy level is good.  Good time to devote > attention on buying new house/home décor/vehicle/ land deals. Expect > stomach ailments to increase after the 16th. Problems related to sex > organs will increase after the 19th. You may get separated from your > spouse after the 25th due to professional commitments/ travel. Romance > is in the air. Your desire to have more sweets may give you > diabetes/obesity. An excellent time to go on a pilgrimage tour. > Promotion & transfer is on the cards for those in government jobs. Be > prepared to accept some bad news from your overseas contacts. A visit > to courts/prison/ legal consultants/ litigations are also not ruled > out. > > Gemini:Health is excellent this entire month. Your rashi lord > remains exalted this entire month. Your intellectual power will be at > its peak, an investment in properties/shares/ mutual funds/bonds/ fixed > deposits draws your attention. Finances remain good this entire > month. You should be on alert for sudden financial gains. Heart > ailments/bones problems are not ruled out. The young eligible looking > for their sweet hearts will get after 19th. Your enemies with whom > disputes have not been resolved may file legal suit against you. Your > spouse remains a pillar of support for you. You will be very > aggressively active & involved in reaching your goals. Fortunes are > favourable but at a snail’s speed. Be prepared to drill a hole in > your wallet for a romantic thrill with your sweet hearts. > > Cancer:Health is not good. Health issues related to lungs/chest > keep propping up. Finances looks good but stretched out. Visit to eye > doctor is not ruled out. Tendency to be rude in your speech may > reduce after the 8th. The desire for sense enjoyment with the > opposite sex remains high till 19th. After the 19th you draw your > attention on house décor/new house/new vehicles/home appliances etc. > Creativity will be at its peak. You will sharpen your contacts with > influential people after the 16th, but overstress may also lead to > heart ailments. Children may disappoint you. Your envious enemies > will be very active now. Romance is in the air. Constant nagging with > your spouse may tempt you to go a divorce. You may get close or > develop an intimate relationship with your office colleague of the > opposite sex after the 19th. Those seeking to go overseas will get > a positive response. But expenses will also increase. > > Leo:Your lagna lord in its own house, LIONS, live life king size. > You will always be victories, a win win situation, whether it is > health, wealth. The fading effect of sadi satti also begins now. Your > 70% problems are solved. Finances are excellent. You sharpen your > political contacts & skills. Those in field of > art/films/singing/ music will be at their peak. You are flooded with > offers, your wallets are fattening day by day. Yes I hope IT dept is > not reading this. Your enemies are getting crushed. Those in overseas > business are also gaining out of this. Fortunes are favourable. Karma > at its peak.  Everything is going well for you. Come-on LIONS just > get charged and move ahead..> > Virgo:Health improves after the 25th. You will be showered with > appreciation laurels, certificate of appreciation, mementos, respect. > Your intellectual will be at its peak. Finances will be at its best > after the 19th. This will draw your attention to home décor/new > vehicles/ new house. Your sixth sense will also be at its best. A > good time to try your hand on lottery/lotto/ betting/gambling . You > will emerge victories. There is also a possibility your wallet/mobile > phone/gold ornaments may get pick pocketed/pilfered on the 14th to > 16th.. Whatever work you do now, will click & give you results beyond > your expectations. Overseas business will also give positive results. > > Libra:Health will improve after the 19th. So will your expenses > after the 24th. But finances will also improve, and aggression to > achieve the goals will increase. All those who were unfortunate for > not getting response from their foreign counterpart for job/business, > should re-approach now. They will certainly get positive responses. > Your increased desire to achieve your goals will give excellent > results. Those in property/land deals will get increased returns on > their investments. Thefts may happen at your young siblings/friends > home/office. But romance is in the air. Dispute/arguments with your > spouses is increasing. Expenses will increase after the 16th. > > Scorpio:Health is a matter of concern, but your desire for overseas > travel is a mouth watering recipe for you. You will travel this > month. Finances are stable for you, why then worry. Excessive travel > may down you stamina & energy level. Deals related to > land/agriculture produce will fetch handsome returns. Your enemies > may trouble you this time by filing law suits against you. Eligible > singles will find their sweet hearts. Your innovative skills & > research will fetch you handsome returns. The desire to sense > enjoyments will increase after the 19th so will your expenses. Just > enjoy & be happy.  > > Sagittarius: Health is good so is your aggression reduced after the > 24th. Finances will be coming but at a slow rate. Sudden windfall > gains are also possible. Your hard work will fetch you the required > laurels by the 15th. You will go to extremes in doing your job. This > may agitate your colleagues which may create friction. Those in > government organizations will get promotion & increased pay packets > after the 16th. Those who have desire to go overseas will certainly > travel after the 19th. But expenses will certainly increase, drilling > fat holes in your wallets. > > Capricorn:Health is not stable. Finances are somewhat > disappointing. Your frustration is increasing as surya in its own > house is not giving the required results. Your efforts & your energy > level are getting wasted with meager results to the kind of efforts > you are putting on. Thoughts of committing suicide are also ruling > your mind. This is the best time to take spiritual shelter and seek > some solace to your frustrations. But don’t you worry dear; your > fortunes will improve this time & will remain steady for the next two > months. Your work will be appreciated. Overseas contacts will come to > your rescue. Fortune favours the brave. > > Aquarius:Health is fluctuating. But finances are steady and > improving day by day. Your energy level will improve after the 24th. > Creativity will be at its best. You will renovate your home/office. > Research activity will get a boost now this time. Your friction with > your spouse may result in divorce after the 15th. But be careful > while driving. Accidents may be fatal or may make you physically > handicapped. Fortunes will improve after the 19th. Those in > government organizations will receive promotions & increased pay > packets after the 24th. Overseas news is very very pleasing and > satisfying. Visits to hospitals/courts/ prisons/deserted places will > go on. > > Pisces:Health will improve after the 24th. But finances will also > detioriate. You will be innovative in your skills. Those in > artistic skill field will gain appreciation & also finances. Your > capacity to handle enemies & disease will reduce after the 16th.. > Your spouse’s health will improve after the 19th. But fortunes will > not be favourable after the 24th. Your work will be appreciated very > much by your seniors resulting in promotion & increase salary.. > Overseas news will be very disappointing & frustrating. So will > expenses increase? Law suits & litigations will increase a burden on > you. > >  > > With Warm Regards> > Haresh(Harry) Nathani> > Vedic Astologer, > > Vaastu Consultant> > Insurance Advisor> > Cell +91 98672 14103> > Tele/Fax +91 22 24031469> > (Mumbai,India)> > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go > to http://in.webmessen ger.. com/> >> > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/> Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Dear Nathani ji, Namaskar, Thanks for your acknowledgement because there is no reply. Since my first letter I am raising very pointed, straight and simple question but I am not receiving any reply. I have narrated a sequence of event that too very common so where is the question of speculation. Every astrologer and clients are following the same procedure. Every one with scientific aptitude knows about the affect of planets in the form of gravitation and magnetism. But sorry to say that astrologer due to their business consideration and innocent public due to ignorance and blind faith; are not willing to find or admit the truth. I according to my horoscope I may be collector then how some one else can be selected by wearing / remedy of gem, vaastu etc., when it is not in his horoscope. Because attached incident from my job are also in my horoscope. Like when I will be transferred, promoted, demoted, marriage, children, retirement, house …….. etc. And if another person may become collector, by some remedy, then where is the indication about his transfer etc. in his horoscope, which may be quite blank. Just think. It is not speculation. Every scientific principle has some procedure, data, analysis, concept, conclusion, formula etc. and in last continuous checking for further modification, correction etc.. If astrology is science then you can come forward with your answer on various questions raised in my blog " Astrology a science or myth " (I hope by now you may have gone through). Like how principals of sign lord, aspect, friendship, exalted etc. was created. Why Rahu Ketu are not at intersection point during eclipse and so on. Only a firm belief without scientific support can not be regarded as science. So you may please come forward or you may take help (or invite) of your other astrologer friends in forum/personal for replying my queries. I hope our interaction may be good if you not prefer to sleep in silence zone like other astrologers, who were harping on the line that astrology is science (this is the only sentence which every astrologer is publicizing to hook the people, which was taught to him by every astrological book) without any further knowledge. You may read various msgs and find as to what is the level of knowledge of many astrologers. Waiting for some concrete reply instead of sweeping sentences and you are also free to raise any point for further interaction. Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic discussion. Thanking you, Yours truly, Sanat PS : Members may please come forward with their helping comments to Sh Nathani Ji so that he may be able to reply on various points. This is the only benefit of interaction. , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405 wrote: > > Dear Sannat > By going through ur comments it is obvious that u r a very speculative person. Astrology is science & speculation has no role to play. If u understand the planets, its nature, its effects on oneself u urself will make a better astrolger & bring change in not only ur own life but also for other for whom u do prediction. > >  > With Warm Regards > Haresh(Harry)Nathani > Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant > Insurance Advisor > Cell +91 98672 14103 > Mumbai,India) > > > > > sanat2221 <sanatkumar_jain > > Saturday, 6 September, 2008 11:11:34 PM > Re: This month prediction for Sept 08 > > > > Dear Nathani, > Namaskar, > Thanks for your very quick reply. > > Opening line of monthly forecast intimate about rashi / lagn, which > may be quite different. But no problem. As I am not very much > interested. And members may take their own route. > > >>>>>> An astrologer only presents the kind of results according to > the placement of planets. This helps us for a better planning of our > activities.< <<<<<<<< > > You are in the field of insurance. So suppose you advice an > individual that so and so problem will be there hence take corrective > measure (say insurance, amendment in planning, change in habit, ring, > Vaastu etc.) to avoid that problem. For which you are charging fee > and taking help of astrology for such prediction. You may be agreeing > on this presumption. OK > > Now suppose you have forecasted sme problem and individual taken some > remedial measure on your advise to avoid it and saved him from such > problem. Then definitely you have interfered in the destiny of that > individual, which was so-called defined for him by God. Because > creating the problem to that individual may not be isolated incident. > By this incident there is so many connected series of incidents not > only in his life but also on the life of so many other persons of his > family and society. You may think that perhaps God may want to > transfer his money to some one else due to this problem and you have > created interference thus money may not be transferred or you can > think of so many interconnecting series of incidents in all sort of > prediction / correction. Thus destiny of anyone is not isolated and > his future is not independent but it is a series with cascading > affect on others. Just think. When every one is changing his script > of destiny on the advise of astrologers then what will happen to > original destiny. On the other hand if you (astrologer) are not able > to change the destiny then what is the use of forecast? Or you can > change the forecast irrespective of the position of the planets in > the horoscope. Thus your remedy is more powerful then the so called > affect of Sun / planets. I am not extending it further and hope > member will think further with open mind. > > I know that astrology is your business hence I am not asking you to > analyze my horoscope. But I am asking you to provide a single > astrological principle which in your opinion is correct; or you have > just joined this business for the sake of money without in depth > study as to whether some thing can actually be predicted or not. I am > sure that you have joined this business for the sake of money like > many others, without in depth study (please do not take it as > personal allegation it is for other astrologers) . > > I am not bothered as to whether any member is leaving the forum or > not. But I am bothered that why such astrologers are befooling > innocent public. It may be possible that many astrologer may not have > opportunity to think for analyzing astrological principals. But when > I am raising many questions on astrology, that too after studying it > for +35 years and after writing two original books, even then they > are not willing to think and finding answers. At least they must know > the truth though they may continue their business. I am not asking to > stop their business. > > For example you have mentioned about Kaal sarp yog in your forecast. > 99.9% members including other forums too will not ask any question. > But I will like to ask as to in which astrological principle > (shastra) there is reference of Kaal sarp yog. Or you are just > following the trick. > > I am quoting few lines from my PS under msg dated 1-8-8 > " Today on 1-8-8, there is total solar eclipse when Sun and Moon may > be at +105 degree but Ketu is at 115 degree. Now everybody knows that > at the time of total solar eclipse Moon is going to intersect the > orbit of the Sun and during intersection Sun happens to be on the > point of intersection hence we can see total solar eclipse. Now my > question to the members of the forum is that what Ketu (which is > intersection point of orbits) is doing at 115 degree, whereas it must > be at 105 degree the location where Sun and Moon are transiting. Thus > can't member realize that position of these shadow planets in the > horoscopes is wrong. " > > So I will like to ask as to when position of Rahu Ketu is not correct > in the horoscope then why you are infusing fear complex of Kaal Sarp > yog. You are also active on many forums hence you can ask your > friends as to why Ketu is not at intersection point. Thus you must > know that there is no base in kaal sarp yog, and you have to admit > it; but on the other hand you may continue to extract money from > fools. I have no objection, because you as an astrologer, has every > right to run your business and extract money from fools. > > I am also waiting for your reply on various questions discussed and > referred in SOA____ file including " Astrology a science or myth " . I > hope by now you may have gone through these files, and now you will > come out with your knowledge. > > Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic discussion. > > Thanking you, > > Yours truly, > Sanat > > PS : I will like to say to the members of the forum that they have an > option to observe silence only if they are agree with my views; AND > IF THEY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINION THEN THEY MAY COME FORWARD WITH THEIR > STAND. I think there may not be any hesitation in the mind of the > members. Even if they do not have in depth study of astrology; they > may come forward with their faith and either try to support their > stand or try to see a new dimension of the astrology, which is the > only use of interaction. > > Think differently, Think logically and Think scientifically > > , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " > <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Sannat > > I hv replied to ur query step by step > > But you have not clarified as to whether signs are related > > to Moon sign or ascendant sign or Western sayan system or Indian > > nirayan system. > > Pls read the opening line of my prediction > > All prediction are on moon sign/rashiâ. This is also applicable > > to respective rashiâs lagnaâ. > > Iam unable to understand as to why you are creating problems for > > God, who is deciding some thing for some one and why you are > leaking > > his wishes. Hi. Hi. > > Pls understand that an astrologer does not interfers in Gods work. > God has already given all the required powers to all the planets > which govern us, & we all react according to the placement of planets > in our kundalis which ruke us. An astrologer only presents the kind > of results according to the placement of planets. This helps us for a > better planning of our activities. > > Do you believe that by applying some principles you are able to > > foretell the destiny, or you are just practicing as a tool for > > earning? > > I am a professional astrologer, & apply the principals of > astrology, but I also do charge people who need expert assisstance > from me. > >  > > If people leave the group, nothing can be done. As long as u remain > within the norms or purpose of the group being run this groups goes > on. If some leave more will come. > > > >  > > > > > >  > >  > >  > > > > With Warm Regards > > Haresh(Harry) Nathani > > Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant > > Insurance Advisor > > Cell +91 98672 14103 > > Mumbai,India) > > > > > > > > > > sanat2221 <sanatkumar_ jain@> > > > > Thursday, 4 September, 2008 11:11:32 PM > > Re: This month prediction for Sept 08 > > > > > > Dear Nathani, > > Namaskar, > > Thanks for your monthly forecast. At least some member may take > > benefit. But you have not clarified as to whether signs are related > > to Moon sign or ascendant sign or Western sayan system or Indian > > nirayan system. Even then no problem. Because members can > themselves > > decide which sign or which sentence is more favourable to them. OK. > > > > I am unable to understand as to why you are creating problems for > > God, who is deciding some thing for some one and why you are > leaking > > his wishes. Hi. Hi. > > > > You are very much interested and also doing business of astrology. > > May I ask some question? > > > > Do you believe that by applying some principles you are able to > > foretell the destiny, or you are just practicing as a tool for > > earning? > > In view of your anticipated answer I am further asking to intimate > > any principle, which in your opinion is correct. > > I know you will not intimate. Hence I will request you to go > > through " Astrology a science or myth " in file section or read 1st > > msg. So if you are supporter of astrology then you must have answer > > to these simple questions. > > > > I hope you will neither sleep in silence zone nor left the forum > and > > may come forward in support of your stand and will provide simple > > answer to various questions. As some members have left the forum > for > > saving their business. > > One member left after seeking some clarification when he was > claiming > > 100 % correct forecast. > > Another left when he was supporting Khullar system. > > Another left / silent when ask some clarification on his socalled > > principle of diabetes. > > > > We are discussing various points related to astrology (refer > > SOA_____file in file section) and you can pickup any point for > > discussion. I hope you will support your stand with your knowledge > > and may not let down astrologers. Rest assured you may continue > with > > your business of predictive astrology as usual on various other > > forums and we will not disturb you there and this forum is not > joined > > by your clients hence you may safely continue and don't bother for > > any failure. > > > > Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic discussion. > > > > Thanks > > Yours truly, > > Sanat > > > > , " Haresh \(Harry\) > Nathani " > > <haresh1405@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > This month for you from  01.09.2008 to 30.09.2008 > > > All prediction are on moon sign/rashi’s. This is also > applicable > > to respective rashi’s lagna’s. > > > General prediction for this year. Those who are aspiring to go > > overseas for business/job/ pleasure will get overseas opportunities. > > > Notes:  Mangal in conjunction with mercury in Kanya rashi >  is > > another symbolizing conjunction. The commander in chief Mangal in > > Budh’s house with Budh which is exalted in Kanya Rashi. > Mangal > > signifies energy level & Budh signifies youth. Conjunction of > energy > > & youth will signifying results with respect to the house they are > > placed in ones’ kundali. Mangal transits into Tula  rashi > on > > 25.09.08 Sun transits into Kanya rashi on 16.09.08 . Mercury will > > remain  in Kanya rashi this entire month & will get > retrograde or > > vakri on 24.09.08. Jupiter gets Margi or in its direct motion on > > 08.09.08 Shukra remains neech/debilated in Kanya rashi & enters its > > own Mool Trikon rashi Tula on 19.09.08. Sani   remains Margi > or in > > its direct motion in this month > > > There will be Kaala Saarpa Dosha situation in all lagnas in this > > month from 1st sept to 18th Sept 08. Those having Kaala Saarpa > dosha > > in their respective kundli & those who have not done prayers for > > dosha shanty may experience difficult times. Surya when transits to > > Kanya rashi it comes under rahu’s aspect. Heart attacks/bone > > problems/eye problems/stomach ailments will increase till Surya > > remains in this rashi. > > > Aries:  Overall health remains a matter of concern this entire > > month. Stomach problems/ high BP will get stretched. Finance needs > > attention. Loans/borrowings on the cards this month. Expect thefts > > happening till 18.09.08. Mental anxiety is not ruled out. Debilated > > Venus in your 6th house may lead to separation from your spouse; > you > > may also indulge in extra marital affairs.   Sudden windfall > gains > > may occur till 25.09.08. Fortunes remains good this entire month, > in > > fact will improve after 8th sept. Those in political field will > > remain very active. Expect good news from overseas for > > job/interview/ business. Your enemies will get active after 16th > but > > you will be prepared to tackle them efficiently. Victory is yours. > > Romance after the 19th is on the cards. Keep your wallets loaded to > > please your spouses. > > >  > > > Taurus:  Health problems remain a matter of concern. You are > not > > able to figure out what is the matter with you. Finances remain > good > > this entire month. Energy level is good.  Good time to devote > > attention on buying new house/home dÃÆ'©cor/vehicle/ land deals. > Expect > > stomach ailments to increase after the 16th. Problems related to > sex > > organs will increase after the 19th. You may get separated from > your > > spouse after the 25th due to professional commitments/ travel. > Romance > > is in the air. Your desire to have more sweets may give you > > diabetes/obesity.. An excellent time to go on a pilgrimage tour. > > Promotion & transfer is on the cards for those in government jobs. > Be > > prepared to accept some bad news from your overseas contacts. A > visit > > to courts/prison/ legal consultants/ litigations are also not ruled > > out. > > > Gemini:Health is excellent this entire month. Your rashi lord > > remains exalted this entire month. Your intellectual power will be > at > > its peak, an investment in properties/shares/ mutual funds/bonds/ > fixed > > deposits draws your attention. Finances remain good this entire > > month. You should be on alert for sudden financial gains. Heart > > ailments/bones problems are not ruled out. The young eligible > looking > > for their sweet hearts will get after 19th. Your enemies with whom > > disputes have not been resolved may file legal suit against you. > Your > > spouse remains a pillar of support for you. You will be very > > aggressively active & involved in reaching your goals. Fortunes are > > favourable but at a snail’s speed. Be prepared to drill a > hole in > > your wallet for a romantic thrill with your sweet hearts. > > > Cancer:Health is not good. Health issues related to lungs/chest > > keep propping up. Finances looks good but stretched out. Visit to > eye > > doctor is not ruled out. Tendency to be rude in your speech may > > reduce after the 8th. The desire for sense enjoyment with the > > opposite sex remains high till 19th. After the 19th you draw your > > attention on house dÃÆ'©cor/new house/new vehicles/home appliances > etc. > > Creativity will be at its peak. You will sharpen your contacts with > > influential people after the 16th, but overstress may also lead to > > heart ailments. Children may disappoint you. Your envious enemies > > will be very active now. Romance is in the air. Constant nagging > with > > your spouse may tempt you to go a divorce. You may get close or > > develop an intimate relationship with your office colleague of the > > opposite sex after the 19th. Those seeking to go overseas will > get > > a positive response. But expenses will also increase. > > > Leo:Your lagna lord in its own house, LIONS, live life king size. > > You will always be victories, a win win situation, whether it is > > health, wealth. The fading effect of sadi satti also begins now. > Your > > 70% problems are solved. Finances are excellent. You sharpen your > > political contacts & skills. Those in field of > > art/films/singing/ music will be at their peak. You are flooded > with > > offers, your wallets are fattening day by day. Yes I hope IT dept > is > > not reading this. Your enemies are getting crushed. Those in > overseas > > business are also gaining out of this. Fortunes are favourable. > Karma > > at its peak.  Everything is going well for you. Come-on LIONS > just > > get charged and move ahead.. > > > Virgo:Health improves after the 25th. You will be showered with > > appreciation laurels, certificate of appreciation, mementos, > respect. > > Your intellectual will be at its peak. Finances will be at its best > > after the 19th. This will draw your attention to home dÃÆ'©cor/new > > vehicles/ new house. Your sixth sense will also be at its best. A > > good time to try your hand on lottery/lotto/ betting/gambling . You > > will emerge victories. There is also a possibility your > wallet/mobile > > phone/gold ornaments may get pick pocketed/pilfered on the 14th to > > 16th. Whatever work you do now, will click & give you results > beyond > > your expectations. Overseas business will also give positive > results. > > > Libra:Health will improve after the 19th. So will your expenses > > after the 24th. But finances will also improve, and aggression to > > achieve the goals will increase. All those who were unfortunate for > > not getting response from their foreign counterpart for > job/business, > > should re-approach now. They will certainly get positive responses. > > Your increased desire to achieve your goals will give excellent > > results. Those in property/land deals will get increased returns on > > their investments. Thefts may happen at your young siblings/friends > > home/office. But romance is in the air. Dispute/arguments with your > > spouses is increasing. Expenses will increase after the 16th. > > > Scorpio:Health is a matter of concern, but your desire for > overseas > > travel is a mouth watering recipe for you. You will travel this > > month. Finances are stable for you, why then worry. Excessive > travel > > may down you stamina & energy level. Deals related to > > land/agriculture produce will fetch handsome returns. Your enemies > > may trouble you this time by filing law suits against you. Eligible > > singles will find their sweet hearts. Your innovative skills & > > research will fetch you handsome returns. The desire to sense > > enjoyments will increase after the 19th so will your expenses. Just > > enjoy & be happy.  > > > Sagittarius: Health is good so is your aggression reduced after > the > > 24th. Finances will be coming but at a slow rate. Sudden windfall > > gains are also possible. Your hard work will fetch you the required > > laurels by the 15th. You will go to extremes in doing your job. > This > > may agitate your colleagues which may create friction. Those in > > government organizations will get promotion & increased pay packets > > after the 16th. Those who have desire to go overseas will certainly > > travel after the 19th. But expenses will certainly increase, > drilling > > fat holes in your wallets. > > > Capricorn:Health is not stable. Finances are somewhat > > disappointing. Your frustration is increasing as surya in its own > > house is not giving the required results. Your efforts & your > energy > > level are getting wasted with meager results to the kind of efforts > > you are putting on. Thoughts of committing suicide are also ruling > > your mind. This is the best time to take spiritual shelter and seek > > some solace to your frustrations. But don’t you worry dear; > your > > fortunes will improve this time & will remain steady for the next > two > > months. Your work will be appreciated. Overseas contacts will come > to > > your rescue.. Fortune favours the brave. > > > Aquarius:Health is fluctuating. But finances are steady and > > improving day by day. Your energy level will improve after the > 24th. > > Creativity will be at its best. You will renovate your home/office. > > Research activity will get a boost now this time. Your friction > with > > your spouse may result in divorce after the 15th. But be careful > > while driving. Accidents may be fatal or may make you physically > > handicapped. Fortunes will improve after the 19th. Those in > > government organizations will receive promotions & increased pay > > packets after the 24th. Overseas news is very very pleasing and > > satisfying. Visits to hospitals/courts/ prisons/deserted places > will > > go on. > > > Pisces:Health will improve after the 24th. But finances will also > > detioriate. You will be innovative in your skills. Those in > > artistic skill field will gain appreciation & also finances. Your > > capacity to handle enemies & disease will reduce after the 16th.. > > Your spouse’s health will improve after the 19th. But > fortunes will > > not be favourable after the 24th. Your work will be appreciated > very > > much by your seniors resulting in promotion & increase salary.. > > Overseas news will be very disappointing & frustrating. So will > > expenses increase? Law suits & litigations will increase a burden > on > > you. > > >  > > > With Warm Regards > > > Haresh(Harry) Nathani > > > Vedic Astologer, > > > Vaastu Consultant > > > Insurance Advisor > > > Cell +91 98672 14103 > > > Tele/Fax +91 22 24031469 > > > (Mumbai,India) > > > > > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go > > to http://in.webmessen ger.. com/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on > http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/ > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help./l/in//mail/mail/tools/tools-08.html/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Hi Harry The predictions are offered from time immemorial on the basis of Moon sign and went on facing failures.Ascendant is soul and moon is body and mind-is the concept created by rishis.None can work without the other. But instead of taking a longer duration of moon -around 24 hrs-if you take the Asc.the duration is shorter and number of births would be restricted to around 2 hrs and your predictions could go right somtimes.Predictions offered based on the moon is to fill the papers in media in the Astro columns. Your statement " AStrology is Science and speculation has no role to play " .Could you please enumerate ,astrology is what science-I mean like Physics,Chemistry-and also pl clarify what do you mean by speculation. To my little knowledge I understand all the speculators are astrologers in one way or the other.They use their experiance to foretell the price of the share or commodity they deal with. The astrologers use the stars to foretell with their little knowledge on them to foretell EVERYTHING they come across.The spaculators could be right many times-the measure is the amount of money they make and astrologers are right sometimes. As Sanatji put it this is not meant to offend you Harry,you may pl discuss if I am wrong. All the best. tkp ghopal On 9/7/08, Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 wrote: Dear Sannat By going through ur comments it is obvious that u r a very speculative person. Astrology is science & speculation has no role to play. If u understand the planets, its nature, its effects on oneself u urself will make a better astrolger & bring change in not only ur own life but also for other for whom u do prediction. With Warm Regards Haresh(Harry)Nathani Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant Insurance Advisor Cell +91 98672 14103 Mumbai,India) sanat2221 <sanatkumar_jain Sent: Saturday, 6 September, 2008 11:11:34 PM Re: This month prediction for Sept 08 Dear Nathani,Namaskar,Thanks for your very quick reply.Opening line of monthly forecast intimate about rashi / lagn, which may be quite different. But no problem. As I am not very much interested. And members may take their own route.>>>>>> An astrologer only presents the kind of results according to the placement of planets. This helps us for a better planning of our activities.< <<<<<<<< You are in the field of insurance. So suppose you advice an individual that so and so problem will be there hence take corrective measure (say insurance, amendment in planning, change in habit, ring, Vaastu etc.) to avoid that problem. For which you are charging fee and taking help of astrology for such prediction. You may be agreeing on this presumption. OKNow suppose you have forecasted sme problem and individual taken some remedial measure on your advise to avoid it and saved him from such problem. Then definitely you have interfered in the destiny of that individual, which was so-called defined for him by God. Because creating the problem to that individual may not be isolated incident. By this incident there is so many connected series of incidents not only in his life but also on the life of so many other persons of his family and society. You may think that perhaps God may want to transfer his money to some one else due to this problem and you have created interference thus money may not be transferred or you can think of so many interconnecting series of incidents in all sort of prediction / correction. Thus destiny of anyone is not isolated and his future is not independent but it is a series with cascading affect on others. Just think. When every one is changing his script of destiny on the advise of astrologers then what will happen to original destiny. On the other hand if you (astrologer) are not able to change the destiny then what is the use of forecast? Or you can change the forecast irrespective of the position of the planets in the horoscope. Thus your remedy is more powerful then the so called affect of Sun / planets. I am not extending it further and hope member will think further with open mind.I know that astrology is your business hence I am not asking you to analyze my horoscope. But I am asking you to provide a single astrological principle which in your opinion is correct; or you have just joined this business for the sake of money without in depth study as to whether some thing can actually be predicted or not. I am sure that you have joined this business for the sake of money like many others, without in depth study (please do not take it as personal allegation it is for other astrologers) . I am not bothered as to whether any member is leaving the forum or not. But I am bothered that why such astrologers are befooling innocent public. It may be possible that many astrologer may not have opportunity to think for analyzing astrological principals. But when I am raising many questions on astrology, that too after studying it for +35 years and after writing two original books, even then they are not willing to think and finding answers. At least they must know the truth though they may continue their business. I am not asking to stop their business. For example you have mentioned about Kaal sarp yog in your forecast. 99.9% members including other forums too will not ask any question. But I will like to ask as to in which astrological principle (shastra) there is reference of Kaal sarp yog. Or you are just following the trick. I am quoting few lines from my PS under msg dated 1-8-8 " Today on 1-8-8, there is total solar eclipse when Sun and Moon may be at +105 degree but Ketu is at 115 degree. Now everybody knows that at the time of total solar eclipse Moon is going to intersect the orbit of the Sun and during intersection Sun happens to be on the point of intersection hence we can see total solar eclipse. Now my question to the members of the forum is that what Ketu (which is intersection point of orbits) is doing at 115 degree, whereas it must be at 105 degree the location where Sun and Moon are transiting. Thus can't member realize that position of these shadow planets in the horoscopes is wrong. " So I will like to ask as to when position of Rahu Ketu is not correct in the horoscope then why you are infusing fear complex of Kaal Sarp yog. You are also active on many forums hence you can ask your friends as to why Ketu is not at intersection point. Thus you must know that there is no base in kaal sarp yog, and you have to admit it; but on the other hand you may continue to extract money from fools. I have no objection, because you as an astrologer, has every right to run your business and extract money from fools.I am also waiting for your reply on various questions discussed and referred in SOA____ file including " Astrology a science or myth " . I hope by now you may have gone through these files, and now you will come out with your knowledge.Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic discussion.Thanking you,Yours truly,SanatPS : I will like to say to the members of the forum that they have an option to observe silence only if they are agree with my views; AND IF THEY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINION THEN THEY MAY COME FORWARD WITH THEIR STAND. I think there may not be any hesitation in the mind of the members. Even if they do not have in depth study of astrology; they may come forward with their faith and either try to support their stand or try to see a new dimension of the astrology, which is the only use of interaction.Think differently, Think logically and Think scientifically , " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " <haresh1405@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sannat> I hv replied to ur query step by step> But you have not clarified as to whether signs are related > to Moon sign or ascendant sign or Western sayan system or Indian > nirayan system.> Pls read the opening line of my prediction> All prediction are on moon sign/rashiâ. This is also applicable > to respective rashiâs lagnaâ.> Iam unable to understand as to why you are creating problems for > God, who is deciding some thing for some one and why you are leaking > his wishes. Hi. Hi.> Pls understand that an astrologer does not interfers in Gods work. God has already given all the required powers to all the planets which govern us, & we all react according to the placement of planets in our kundalis which ruke us. An astrologer only presents the kind of results according to the placement of planets. This helps us for a better planning of our activities.> Do you believe that by applying some principles you are able to > foretell the destiny, or you are just practicing as a tool for > earning?> I am a professional astrologer, & apply the principals of astrology, but I also do charge people who need expert assisstance from me. >  > If people leave the group, nothing can be done. As long as u remain within the norms or purpose of the group being run this groups goes on. If some leave more will come.> >  > > >  >  >  > > With Warm Regards> Haresh(Harry) Nathani> Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant > Insurance Advisor> Cell +91 98672 14103 > Mumbai,India)> > > > > sanat2221 <sanatkumar_ jain> > Thursday, 4 September, 2008 11:11:32 PM> Re: This month prediction for Sept 08> > > Dear Nathani,> Namaskar,> Thanks for your monthly forecast. At least some member may take > benefit. But you have not clarified as to whether signs are related > to Moon sign or ascendant sign or Western sayan system or Indian > nirayan system. Even then no problem. Because members can themselves > decide which sign or which sentence is more favourable to them. OK.> > I am unable to understand as to why you are creating problems for > God, who is deciding some thing for some one and why you are leaking > his wishes. Hi. Hi.> > You are very much interested and also doing business of astrology. > May I ask some question?> > Do you believe that by applying some principles you are able to > foretell the destiny, or you are just practicing as a tool for > earning?> In view of your anticipated answer I am further asking to intimate > any principle, which in your opinion is correct. > I know you will not intimate. Hence I will request you to go > through " Astrology a science or myth " in file section or read 1st > msg. So if you are supporter of astrology then you must have answer > to these simple questions.> > I hope you will neither sleep in silence zone nor left the forum and > may come forward in support of your stand and will provide simple > answer to various questions. As some members have left the forum for > saving their business.> One member left after seeking some clarification when he was claiming > 100 % correct forecast.> Another left when he was supporting Khullar system.> Another left / silent when ask some clarification on his socalled > principle of diabetes.> > We are discussing various points related to astrology (refer > SOA_____file in file section) and you can pickup any point for > discussion. I hope you will support your stand with your knowledge > and may not let down astrologers. Rest assured you may continue with > your business of predictive astrology as usual on various other > forums and we will not disturb you there and this forum is not joined > by your clients hence you may safely continue and don't bother for > any failure.> > Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic discussion.> > Thanks> Yours truly, > Sanat> > @ .. com, " Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani " > <haresh1405@ ...> wrote:> >> > This month for you from  01.09.2008 to 30.09.2008 > > All prediction are on moon sign/rashi’s. This is also applicable > to respective rashi’s lagna’s.> > General prediction for this year. Those who are aspiring to go > overseas for business/job/ pleasure will get overseas opportunities.> > Notes:  Mangal in conjunction with mercury in Kanya rashi  is > another symbolizing conjunction. The commander in chief Mangal in > Budh’s house with Budh which is exalted in Kanya Rashi. Mangal > signifies energy level & Budh signifies youth. Conjunction of energy > & youth will signifying results with respect to the house they are > placed in ones’ kundali. Mangal transits into Tula  rashi on > 25.09.08 Sun transits into Kanya rashi on 16.09.08 . Mercury will > remain  in Kanya rashi this entire month & will get retrograde or > vakri on 24.09.08. Jupiter gets Margi or in its direct motion on > 08.09.08 Shukra remains neech/debilated in Kanya rashi & enters its > own Mool Trikon rashi Tula on 19.09.08. Sani   remains Margi or in > its direct motion in this month > > There will be Kaala Saarpa Dosha situation in all lagnas in this > month from 1st sept to 18th Sept 08. Those having Kaala Saarpa dosha > in their respective kundli & those who have not done prayers for > dosha shanty may experience difficult times. Surya when transits to > Kanya rashi it comes under rahu’s aspect. Heart attacks/bone > problems/eye problems/stomach ailments will increase till Surya > remains in this rashi. > > Aries:  Overall health remains a matter of concern this entire > month. Stomach problems/ high BP will get stretched. Finance needs > attention. Loans/borrowings on the cards this month. Expect thefts > happening till 18.09.08. Mental anxiety is not ruled out. Debilated > Venus in your 6th house may lead to separation from your spouse; you > may also indulge in extra marital affairs.   Sudden windfall gains > may occur till 25.09.08. Fortunes remains good this entire month, in > fact will improve after 8th sept. Those in political field will > remain very active. Expect good news from overseas for > job/interview/ business. Your enemies will get active after 16th but > you will be prepared to tackle them efficiently. Victory is yours. > Romance after the 19th is on the cards. Keep your wallets loaded to > please your spouses. > >  > > Taurus:  Health problems remain a matter of concern. You are not > able to figure out what is the matter with you. Finances remain good > this entire month. Energy level is good.  Good time to devote > attention on buying new house/home décor/vehicle/ land deals. Expect > stomach ailments to increase after the 16th. Problems related to sex > organs will increase after the 19th. You may get separated from your > spouse after the 25th due to professional commitments/ travel. Romance > is in the air. Your desire to have more sweets may give you > diabetes/obesity. An excellent time to go on a pilgrimage tour. > Promotion & transfer is on the cards for those in government jobs. Be > prepared to accept some bad news from your overseas contacts. A visit > to courts/prison/ legal consultants/ litigations are also not ruled > out. > > Gemini:Health is excellent this entire month. Your rashi lord > remains exalted this entire month. Your intellectual power will be at > its peak, an investment in properties/shares/ mutual funds/bonds/ fixed > deposits draws your attention. Finances remain good this entire > month. You should be on alert for sudden financial gains. Heart > ailments/bones problems are not ruled out. The young eligible looking > for their sweet hearts will get after 19th. Your enemies with whom > disputes have not been resolved may file legal suit against you. Your > spouse remains a pillar of support for you. You will be very > aggressively active & involved in reaching your goals. Fortunes are > favourable but at a snail’s speed. Be prepared to drill a hole in > your wallet for a romantic thrill with your sweet hearts. > > Cancer:Health is not good. Health issues related to lungs/chest > keep propping up. Finances looks good but stretched out. Visit to eye > doctor is not ruled out. Tendency to be rude in your speech may > reduce after the 8th. The desire for sense enjoyment with the > opposite sex remains high till 19th. After the 19th you draw your > attention on house décor/new house/new vehicles/home appliances etc. > Creativity will be at its peak. You will sharpen your contacts with > influential people after the 16th, but overstress may also lead to > heart ailments. Children may disappoint you. Your envious enemies > will be very active now. Romance is in the air. Constant nagging with > your spouse may tempt you to go a divorce. You may get close or > develop an intimate relationship with your office colleague of the > opposite sex after the 19th. Those seeking to go overseas will get > a positive response. But expenses will also increase. > > Leo:Your lagna lord in its own house, LIONS, live life king size. > You will always be victories, a win win situation, whether it is > health, wealth. The fading effect of sadi satti also begins now. Your > 70% problems are solved. Finances are excellent. You sharpen your > political contacts & skills. Those in field of > art/films/singing/ music will be at their peak. You are flooded with > offers, your wallets are fattening day by day. Yes I hope IT dept is > not reading this. Your enemies are getting crushed. Those in overseas > business are also gaining out of this. Fortunes are favourable. Karma > at its peak.  Everything is going well for you. Come-on LIONS just > get charged and move ahead..> > Virgo:Health improves after the 25th. You will be showered with > appreciation laurels, certificate of appreciation, mementos, respect. > Your intellectual will be at its peak. Finances will be at its best > after the 19th. This will draw your attention to home décor/new > vehicles/ new house. Your sixth sense will also be at its best. A > good time to try your hand on lottery/lotto/ betting/gambling . You > will emerge victories. There is also a possibility your wallet/mobile > phone/gold ornaments may get pick pocketed/pilfered on the 14th to > 16th.. Whatever work you do now, will click & give you results beyond > your expectations. Overseas business will also give positive results. > > Libra:Health will improve after the 19th. So will your expenses > after the 24th. But finances will also improve, and aggression to > achieve the goals will increase. All those who were unfortunate for > not getting response from their foreign counterpart for job/business, > should re-approach now. They will certainly get positive responses. > Your increased desire to achieve your goals will give excellent > results. Those in property/land deals will get increased returns on > their investments. Thefts may happen at your young siblings/friends > home/office. But romance is in the air. Dispute/arguments with your > spouses is increasing. Expenses will increase after the 16th. > > Scorpio:Health is a matter of concern, but your desire for overseas > travel is a mouth watering recipe for you. You will travel this > month. Finances are stable for you, why then worry. Excessive travel > may down you stamina & energy level. Deals related to > land/agriculture produce will fetch handsome returns. Your enemies > may trouble you this time by filing law suits against you. Eligible > singles will find their sweet hearts. Your innovative skills & > research will fetch you handsome returns. The desire to sense > enjoyments will increase after the 19th so will your expenses. Just > enjoy & be happy.  > > Sagittarius: Health is good so is your aggression reduced after the > 24th. Finances will be coming but at a slow rate. Sudden windfall > gains are also possible. Your hard work will fetch you the required > laurels by the 15th. You will go to extremes in doing your job. This > may agitate your colleagues which may create friction. Those in > government organizations will get promotion & increased pay packets > after the 16th. Those who have desire to go overseas will certainly > travel after the 19th. But expenses will certainly increase, drilling > fat holes in your wallets. > > Capricorn:Health is not stable. Finances are somewhat > disappointing. Your frustration is increasing as surya in its own > house is not giving the required results. Your efforts & your energy > level are getting wasted with meager results to the kind of efforts > you are putting on. Thoughts of committing suicide are also ruling > your mind. This is the best time to take spiritual shelter and seek > some solace to your frustrations. But don’t you worry dear; your > fortunes will improve this time & will remain steady for the next two > months. Your work will be appreciated. Overseas contacts will come to > your rescue. Fortune favours the brave. > > Aquarius:Health is fluctuating. But finances are steady and > improving day by day. Your energy level will improve after the 24th. > Creativity will be at its best. You will renovate your home/office. > Research activity will get a boost now this time. Your friction with > your spouse may result in divorce after the 15th. But be careful > while driving. Accidents may be fatal or may make you physically > handicapped. Fortunes will improve after the 19th. Those in > government organizations will receive promotions & increased pay > packets after the 24th. Overseas news is very very pleasing and > satisfying. Visits to hospitals/courts/ prisons/deserted places will > go on. > > Pisces:Health will improve after the 24th. But finances will also > detioriate. You will be innovative in your skills. Those in > artistic skill field will gain appreciation & also finances. Your > capacity to handle enemies & disease will reduce after the 16th.. > Your spouse’s health will improve after the 19th. But fortunes will > not be favourable after the 24th. Your work will be appreciated very > much by your seniors resulting in promotion & increase salary.. > Overseas news will be very disappointing & frustrating. So will > expenses increase? Law suits & litigations will increase a burden on > you. > >  > > With Warm Regards > > Haresh(Harry) Nathani> > Vedic Astologer, > > Vaastu Consultant> > Insurance Advisor> > Cell +91 98672 14103> > Tele/Fax +91 22 24031469 > > (Mumbai,India)> > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go > to http://in.webmessen ger.. com/ > >> > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/ > Download prohibited? No problem. 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Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Dear Ghopal We should first understand & accept the fact that every human living being is some way or other governed by the cosmic planets. Moon rules the mind & not the body. Our thoughts keep changing on daily basis, hourly basis coz of moon which is the fastest moving planet in astrology. The predictions are general on monthly basis which are arrived at by keeping in mind the sun, mercury & venus. Of course other slow moving planets are also considered With Warm Regards Haresh(Harry)Nathani Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant Insurance Advisor Cell +91 98672 14103 Mumbai,India) TKP Ghopal <astrogopalji Sent: Tuesday, 9 September, 2008 5:58:22 AMRe: Re: This month prediction for Sept 08 Hi Harry The predictions are offered from time immemorial on the basis of Moon sign and went on facing failures.Ascendant is soul and moon is body and mind-is the concept created by rishis.None can work without the other. But instead of taking a longer duration of moon -around 24 hrs-if you take the Asc.the duration is shorter and number of births would be restricted to around 2 hrs and your predictions could go right somtimes.Prediction s offered based on the moon is to fill the papers in media in the Astro columns.Your statement "AStrology is Science and speculation has no role to play".Could you please enumerate ,astrology is what science-I mean like Physics,Chemistry- and also pl clarify what do you mean by speculation. To my little knowledge I understand all the speculators are astrologers in one way or the other.They use their experiance to foretell the price of the share or commodity they deal with.. The astrologers use the stars to foretell with their little knowledge on them to foretell EVERYTHING they come across.The spaculators could be right many times-the measure is the amount of money they make and astrologers are right sometimes. As Sanatji put it this is not meant to offend you Harry,you may pl discuss if I am wrong. All the best. tkp ghopal On 9/7/08, Haresh (Harry) Nathani <haresh1405 > wrote: Dear Sannat By going through ur comments it is obvious that u r a very speculative person. Astrology is science & speculation has no role to play. If u understand the planets, its nature, its effects on oneself u urself will make a better astrolger & bring change in not only ur own life but also for other for whom u do prediction. With Warm Regards Haresh(Harry) Nathani Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant Insurance Advisor Cell +91 98672 14103 Mumbai,India) sanat2221 <sanatkumar_jain@ rediffmail. com>Saturday, 6 September, 2008 11:11:34 PM Re: This month prediction for Sept 08 Dear Nathani,Namaskar,Thanks for your very quick reply.Opening line of monthly forecast intimate about rashi / lagn, which may be quite different. But no problem. As I am not very much interested. And members may take their own route.>>>>>> An astrologer only presents the kind of results according to the placement of planets. This helps us for a better planning of our activities.< <<<<<<<<You are in the field of insurance. So suppose you advice an individual that so and so problem will be there hence take corrective measure (say insurance, amendment in planning, change in habit, ring, Vaastu etc.) to avoid that problem. For which you are charging fee and taking help of astrology for such prediction. You may be agreeing on this presumption. OKNow suppose you have forecasted sme problem and individual taken some remedial measure on your advise to avoid it and saved him from such problem. Then definitely you have interfered in the destiny of that individual, which was so-called defined for him by God.. Because creating the problem to that individual may not be isolated incident. By this incident there is so many connected series of incidents not only in his life but also on the life of so many other persons of his family and society. You may think that perhaps God may want to transfer his money to some one else due to this problem and you have created interference thus money may not be transferred or you can think of so many interconnecting series of incidents in all sort of prediction / correction. Thus destiny of anyone is not isolated and his future is not independent but it is a series with cascading affect on others. Just think. When every one is changing his script of destiny on the advise of astrologers then what will happen to original destiny. On the other hand if you (astrologer) are not able to change the destiny then what is the use of forecast? Or you can change the forecast irrespective of the position of the planets in the horoscope. Thus your remedy is more powerful then the so called affect of Sun / planets. I am not extending it further and hope member will think further with open mind.I know that astrology is your business hence I am not asking you to analyze my horoscope. But I am asking you to provide a single astrological principle which in your opinion is correct; or you have just joined this business for the sake of money without in depth study as to whether some thing can actually be predicted or not. I am sure that you have joined this business for the sake of money like many others, without in depth study (please do not take it as personal allegation it is for other astrologers) . I am not bothered as to whether any member is leaving the forum or not. But I am bothered that why such astrologers are befooling innocent public. It may be possible that many astrologer may not have opportunity to think for analyzing astrological principals. But when I am raising many questions on astrology, that too after studying it for +35 years and after writing two original books, even then they are not willing to think and finding answers. At least they must know the truth though they may continue their business. I am not asking to stop their business.For example you have mentioned about Kaal sarp yog in your forecast. 99.9% members including other forums too will not ask any question. But I will like to ask as to in which astrological principle (shastra) there is reference of Kaal sarp yog. Or you are just following the trick. I am quoting few lines from my PS under msg dated 1-8-8"Today on 1-8-8, there is total solar eclipse when Sun and Moon may be at +105 degree but Ketu is at 115 degree. Now everybody knows that at the time of total solar eclipse Moon is going to intersect the orbit of the Sun and during intersection Sun happens to be on the point of intersection hence we can see total solar eclipse. Now my question to the members of the forum is that what Ketu (which is intersection point of orbits) is doing at 115 degree, whereas it must be at 105 degree the location where Sun and Moon are transiting. Thus can't member realize that position of these shadow planets in the horoscopes is wrong."So I will like to ask as to when position of Rahu Ketu is not correct in the horoscope then why you are infusing fear complex of Kaal Sarp yog. You are also active on many forums hence you can ask your friends as to why Ketu is not at intersection point. Thus you must know that there is no base in kaal sarp yog, and you have to admit it; but on the other hand you may continue to extract money from fools. I have no objection, because you as an astrologer, has every right to run your business and extract money from fools.I am also waiting for your reply on various questions discussed and referred in SOA____ file including "Astrology a science or myth". I hope by now you may have gone through these files, and now you will come out with your knowledge.Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic discussion.Thanking you,Yours truly,SanatPS : I will like to say to the members of the forum that they have an option to observe silence only if they are agree with my views; AND IF THEY HAVE DIFFERENT OPINION THEN THEY MAY COME FORWARD WITH THEIR STAND. I think there may not be any hesitation in the mind of the members. Even if they do not have in depth study of astrology; they may come forward with their faith and either try to support their stand or try to see a new dimension of the astrology, which is the only use of interaction.Think differently, Think logically and Think scientifically, "Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani" <haresh1405@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sannat> I hv replied to ur query step by step> But you have not clarified as to whether signs are related > to Moon sign or ascendant sign or Western sayan system or Indian > nirayan system..> Pls read the opening line of my prediction> All prediction are on moon sign/rashiâ. This is also applicable > to respective rashiâs lagnaâ.> Iam unable to understand as to why you are creating problems for > God, who is deciding some thing for some one and why you are leaking > his wishes. Hi. Hi.> Pls understand that an astrologer does not interfers in Gods work. God has already given all the required powers to all the planets which govern us, & we all react according to the placement of planets in our kundalis which ruke us. An astrologer only presents the kind of results according to the placement of planets. This helps us for a better planning of our activities.> Do you believe that by applying some principles you are able to > foretell the destiny, or you are just practicing as a tool for > earning?> I am a professional astrologer, & apply the principals of astrology, but I also do charge people who need expert assisstance from me. >  > If people leave the group, nothing can be done. As long as u remain within the norms or purpose of the group being run this groups goes on. If some leave more will come.> >  > > >  >  >  > > With Warm Regards> Haresh(Harry) Nathani> Vedic Astologer, Vaastu Consultant> Insurance Advisor> Cell +91 98672 14103 > Mumbai,India)> > > > > sanat2221 <sanatkumar_ jain> > Thursday, 4 September, 2008 11:11:32 PM> Re: This month prediction for Sept 08> > > Dear Nathani,> Namaskar,> Thanks for your monthly forecast. At least some member may take > benefit. But you have not clarified as to whether signs are related > to Moon sign or ascendant sign or Western sayan system or Indian > nirayan system. Even then no problem. Because members can themselves > decide which sign or which sentence is more favourable to them. OK.> > I am unable to understand as to why you are creating problems for > God, who is deciding some thing for some one and why you are leaking > his wishes. Hi. Hi.> > You are very much interested and also doing business of astrology. > May I ask some question?> > Do you believe that by applying some principles you are able to > foretell the destiny, or you are just practicing as a tool for > earning?> In view of your anticipated answer I am further asking to intimate > any principle, which in your opinion is correct.> I know you will not intimate. Hence I will request you to go > through "Astrology a science or myth" in file section or read 1st > msg. So if you are supporter of astrology then you must have answer > to these simple questions.> > I hope you will neither sleep in silence zone nor left the forum and > may come forward in support of your stand and will provide simple > answer to various questions. As some members have left the forum for > saving their business.> One member left after seeking some clarification when he was claiming > 100 % correct forecast.> Another left when he was supporting Khullar system.> Another left / silent when ask some clarification on his socalled > principle of diabetes.> > We are discussing various points related to astrology (refer > SOA_____file in file section) and you can pickup any point for > discussion. I hope you will support your stand with your knowledge > and may not let down astrologers. Rest assured you may continue with > your business of predictive astrology as usual on various other > forums and we will not disturb you there and this forum is not joined > by your clients hence you may safely continue and don't bother for > any failure.> > Remember nothing is personal and it is only academic discussion.> > Thanks> Yours truly,> Sanat> > @ . . com, "Haresh \(Harry\) Nathani" > <haresh1405@ ...> wrote:> >> > This month for you from  01.09.2008 to 30.09.2008> > All prediction are on moon sign/rashi’s. This is also applicable > to respective rashi’s lagna’s.> > General prediction for this year. Those who are aspiring to go > overseas for business/job/ pleasure will get overseas opportunities.> > Notes:  Mangal in conjunction with mercury in Kanya rashi  is > another symbolizing conjunction. The commander in chief Mangal in > Budh’s house with Budh which is exalted in Kanya Rashi. Mangal > signifies energy level & Budh signifies youth. Conjunction of energy > & youth will signifying results with respect to the house they are > placed in ones’ kundali. Mangal transits into Tula  rashi on > 25.09.08 Sun transits into Kanya rashi on 16.09.08 . Mercury will > remain  in Kanya rashi this entire month & will get retrograde or > vakri on 24.09.08. Jupiter gets Margi or in its direct motion on > 08.09.08 Shukra remains neech/debilated in Kanya rashi & enters its > own Mool Trikon rashi Tula on 19.09.08. Sani   remains Margi or in > its direct motion in this month> > There will be Kaala Saarpa Dosha situation in all lagnas in this > month from 1st sept to 18th Sept 08. Those having Kaala Saarpa dosha > in their respective kundli & those who have not done prayers for > dosha shanty may experience difficult times. Surya when transits to > Kanya rashi it comes under rahu’s aspect. Heart attacks/bone > problems/eye problems/stomach ailments will increase till Surya > remains in this rashi. > > Aries:  Overall health remains a matter of concern this entire > month. Stomach problems/ high BP will get stretched. Finance needs > attention. Loans/borrowings on the cards this month. Expect thefts > happening till 18.09.08. Mental anxiety is not ruled out. Debilated > Venus in your 6th house may lead to separation from your spouse; you > may also indulge in extra marital affairs.   Sudden windfall gains > may occur till 25.09.08. Fortunes remains good this entire month, in > fact will improve after 8th sept. Those in political field will > remain very active. Expect good news from overseas for > job/interview/ business. Your enemies will get active after 16th but > you will be prepared to tackle them efficiently. Victory is yours. > Romance after the 19th is on the cards. Keep your wallets loaded to > please your spouses. > >  > > Taurus:  Health problems remain a matter of concern. You are not > able to figure out what is the matter with you. Finances remain good > this entire month. Energy level is good.  Good time to devote > attention on buying new house/home décor/vehicle/ land deals. Expect > stomach ailments to increase after the 16th. Problems related to sex > organs will increase after the 19th. You may get separated from your > spouse after the 25th due to professional commitments/ travel. Romance > is in the air. Your desire to have more sweets may give you > diabetes/obesity. An excellent time to go on a pilgrimage tour. > Promotion & transfer is on the cards for those in government jobs. Be > prepared to accept some bad news from your overseas contacts. A visit > to courts/prison/ legal consultants/ litigations are also not ruled > out. > > Gemini:Health is excellent this entire month. Your rashi lord > remains exalted this entire month. Your intellectual power will be at > its peak, an investment in properties/shares/ mutual funds/bonds/ fixed > deposits draws your attention. Finances remain good this entire > month. You should be on alert for sudden financial gains. Heart > ailments/bones problems are not ruled out. The young eligible looking > for their sweet hearts will get after 19th. Your enemies with whom > disputes have not been resolved may file legal suit against you. Your > spouse remains a pillar of support for you. You will be very > aggressively active & involved in reaching your goals. Fortunes are > favourable but at a snail’s speed. Be prepared to drill a hole in > your wallet for a romantic thrill with your sweet hearts. > > Cancer:Health is not good. Health issues related to lungs/chest > keep propping up. Finances looks good but stretched out. Visit to eye > doctor is not ruled out. Tendency to be rude in your speech may > reduce after the 8th. The desire for sense enjoyment with the > opposite sex remains high till 19th. After the 19th you draw your > attention on house décor/new house/new vehicles/home appliances etc. > Creativity will be at its peak. You will sharpen your contacts with > influential people after the 16th, but overstress may also lead to > heart ailments. Children may disappoint you. Your envious enemies > will be very active now. Romance is in the air. Constant nagging with > your spouse may tempt you to go a divorce. You may get close or > develop an intimate relationship with your office colleague of the > opposite sex after the 19th. Those seeking to go overseas will get > a positive response. But expenses will also increase. > > Leo:Your lagna lord in its own house, LIONS, live life king size. > You will always be victories, a win win situation, whether it is > health, wealth. The fading effect of sadi satti also begins now. Your > 70% problems are solved. Finances are excellent. You sharpen your > political contacts & skills. Those in field of > art/films/singing/ music will be at their peak. You are flooded with > offers, your wallets are fattening day by day. Yes I hope IT dept is > not reading this. Your enemies are getting crushed. Those in overseas > business are also gaining out of this. Fortunes are favourable. Karma > at its peak.  Everything is going well for you. Come-on LIONS just > get charged and move ahead..> > Virgo:Health improves after the 25th. You will be showered with > appreciation laurels, certificate of appreciation, mementos, respect. > Your intellectual will be at its peak. Finances will be at its best > after the 19th. This will draw your attention to home décor/new > vehicles/ new house. Your sixth sense will also be at its best. A > good time to try your hand on lottery/lotto/ betting/gambling . You > will emerge victories. There is also a possibility your wallet/mobile > phone/gold ornaments may get pick pocketed/pilfered on the 14th to > 16th.. Whatever work you do now, will click & give you results beyond > your expectations. Overseas business will also give positive results. > > Libra:Health will improve after the 19th. So will your expenses > after the 24th. But finances will also improve, and aggression to > achieve the goals will increase. All those who were unfortunate for > not getting response from their foreign counterpart for job/business, > should re-approach now. They will certainly get positive responses. > Your increased desire to achieve your goals will give excellent > results. Those in property/land deals will get increased returns on > their investments. Thefts may happen at your young siblings/friends > home/office. But romance is in the air. Dispute/arguments with your > spouses is increasing. Expenses will increase after the 16th. > > Scorpio:Health is a matter of concern, but your desire for overseas > travel is a mouth watering recipe for you. You will travel this > month. Finances are stable for you, why then worry. Excessive travel > may down you stamina & energy level. Deals related to > land/agriculture produce will fetch handsome returns. Your enemies > may trouble you this time by filing law suits against you. Eligible > singles will find their sweet hearts. Your innovative skills & > research will fetch you handsome returns. The desire to sense > enjoyments will increase after the 19th so will your expenses. Just > enjoy & be happy.  > > Sagittarius: Health is good so is your aggression reduced after the > 24th. Finances will be coming but at a slow rate. Sudden windfall > gains are also possible. Your hard work will fetch you the required > laurels by the 15th. You will go to extremes in doing your job. This > may agitate your colleagues which may create friction. Those in > government organizations will get promotion & increased pay packets > after the 16th. Those who have desire to go overseas will certainly > travel after the 19th. But expenses will certainly increase, drilling > fat holes in your wallets. > > Capricorn:Health is not stable. Finances are somewhat > disappointing. Your frustration is increasing as surya in its own > house is not giving the required results. Your efforts & your energy > level are getting wasted with meager results to the kind of efforts > you are putting on. Thoughts of committing suicide are also ruling > your mind.. This is the best time to take spiritual shelter and seek > some solace to your frustrations. But don’t you worry dear; your > fortunes will improve this time & will remain steady for the next two > months. Your work will be appreciated. Overseas contacts will come to > your rescue. Fortune favours the brave. > > Aquarius:Health is fluctuating. But finances are steady and > improving day by day. Your energy level will improve after the 24th. > Creativity will be at its best. You will renovate your home/office. > Research activity will get a boost now this time. Your friction with > your spouse may result in divorce after the 15th. But be careful > while driving. Accidents may be fatal or may make you physically > handicapped. Fortunes will improve after the 19th. Those in > government organizations will receive promotions & increased pay > packets after the 24th. Overseas news is very very pleasing and > satisfying. Visits to hospitals/courts/ prisons/deserted places will > go on. > > Pisces:Health will improve after the 24th. But finances will also > detioriate. You will be innovative in your skills. Those in > artistic skill field will gain appreciation & also finances. Your > capacity to handle enemies & disease will reduce after the 16th.. > Your spouse’s health will improve after the 19th. But fortunes will > not be favourable after the 24th. Your work will be appreciated very > much by your seniors resulting in promotion & increase salary.. > Overseas news will be very disappointing & frustrating. So will > expenses increase? Law suits & litigations will increase a burden on > you. > >  > > With Warm Regards> > Haresh(Harry) Nathani> > Vedic Astologer, > > Vaastu Consultant> > Insurance Advisor> > Cell +91 98672 14103> > Tele/Fax +91 22 24031469> > (Mumbai,India)> > > > > > Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Go > to http://in..webmessen ger.. com/> >> > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now, on http://help. / l/in// mail/mail/ tools/tools- 08.html/> Download prohibited? No problem. 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