Pitri Rin : an opening note

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Dear sirs Since we enjoy the wealth, name and fame earned by our ancestors we are equally liable to suffer and pay for their misdeeds too. The dosh created as a result of the bad deeds by our ancestors is paitrik-dosh or pitra-rin . Pitri rin is different from the ‘pitri-shraap’ or the curse of the ancestors. The ‘pitri-shraap’ is a result of the ancestors cursing their progeny for having misbehaved with them, having ignored them or for not

having followed the family traditions. Even in the legal system we are held responsible for the debts of our forefathers similarly in astrology too we have to pay their debts. Brahat parashar gives 14 kinds of pitra-dosh, Mantreshwar in Phal Deepika says that rahu in the 5th creates pishach-badha, Gopal Ratnakar

calls it sarp-shraap. In the traditional vedic astrology Rahu is considered the main cause of these dosh . Lal Kitab in its 1952 edition discusses this problem in great detail along with its remedies. I quote from Lal Kitab : {ghar nauve ho koi grah baitha,budh baitha jad saathi ho rin pitri us ghar se hoga ,asar grah sab

nisphal ho ; saathi grah jab jad koi kate ,drishti magar wo chhupta ho paanch ,barah, do, nau koi mande, rin pitri ban jaata ho } These lines describe THREE conditions of pitra-rin: [ 1 ]

' ghar nauve ho koi grah baitha , budh baitha jad saathi ho ' ---- If there is a planet in the 9th house and Mercury occupies the rashi { sign } of that planet then it will be a pitr-rin kundali. For example jupiter is in the 9th house and if mercury is in either sagittarius or pisces , or suppose venus is in the 9th house and mercury is placed in either taurus or libra then there will be an indication of a possible ‘pitri rin’ [ 2 ] ' saathi grah jab jad koi kate , drishti magar wo chhuptaa ho ' --- when the enemy planets occupy a rashi and is not aspected by the rashi lord , the kundali will be of pitr-rin. For example if the enemy planets of saturn like sun , moon or mars occupy either makar or kumbha and if the Saturn doesn’t have an aspect on that rasi , there could be a possibility of a ‘pitri rin’ . [ 3 ] 'paanch barah nau do koi mande , rin pitra ban jaata ho' --- if there is an enemy planet of Jupiter like venus or mercury in the 5th , 12th , 9th and 2nd then also it will be a pitr-rin kundali . {of the three couplets the first two talk of the rasi and the third one talks of the pakka ghar of Jupiter.} The Lal kitab suggests remedies in detail for pitr-rin arising out of such situations . It provides the detailed cause of these debts, the planet involved and its remedies. Now how to go about suggesting upaya for ‘Pitri-Rin’? It is a three step process : Step 1 Make sure that all the three conditions laid down are fulfilled. If only one or two conditions are fulfilled then the horoscope will not have a ‘pitri Rin’ dosh. All the three conditions have to be fulfilled. This will indicate the planet causing the ‘rin’. Step 2 If the three conditions are fulfilled and the planet identified, then the next step is to verify the indications of ‘pitri rin’ for that particular planet. The Lal Kitab gives a detailed list of indications for each planet causing ‘pitri rin’ Step 3

After having completed the first two steps, it becomes obvious that the native is suffering from a ‘rin’. The third step is to confirm this phenomenon from a few other horoscopes of the family members. If there is a ‘rin’ on the family it should be reflected in a few, if not all , horoscopes from the same family. [ from the notes of my guru ji ] There can be a situation where the Rin is not indicated in other kundalis of the family. Take the example

of the son of a doctor who destroys the girl child fetus after ascertaining the sex of the embryo. Now the father is committing a sin against kanyas. This Rin could get reflected in the kundali of his progeny but not in other kundalis of the family. Therefore even if the Rin is detected in one single kundali the upaya should be done. The third step is primarily to ascertain the severity and the expanse of the curse. A few questions that are of concern and need to be discussed : [ 1 ] Is Pitri Rin a common occurrence ? Or it is a rare combination. I feel that it is a very rare occurrence. There will be just a few horoscopes out of a thousand which will qualify under all the three conditions. The frequency of occurrence can not be 33% as claimed by some, it will be some thing like .005%. [ 2 ]

What is the over all relevance of this combination while studying a horoscope? What did Pandit Roop Chand ji { peace be upon him} feel about it? It is only in the 1952 edition that Pitri Rin is explained in some detail. In 1941 edition { gutka } it finds a mention under the section ‘Rin’ in the form of a table for planet and the kind of rin. At the end of the table there are two lines like a foot note saying, “ jis grah ki jar mein uska dushman jab phal barbaad kar raha ho, aur khud bhi woh grah manda ho raha ho to pitri rin hoga” In my opinion there could be either of the two possibilities : one that the concept of Pitri Rin had not crystallized , till 1952 , in the mind of Pandit ji. Secondly he did not think it important enough

as to include a section on Pitri Rin , in some detail, in the books published prior to 1952. I tend to accept both the possibilities. [ 3 ] Are there two conditions to be fulfilled or there are three conditions to be fulfilled? I adhere to the three conditions which

are enumerated above. [ 4 ] Is the upaya to be done for two planets or for one? Recently some one claimed having seen four kundalis where he claims that pandit ji had suggested Pitri Rin upaya for one planet in each kundali. I feel that the upaya has to be done for two planets and not one: ‘jo grah nikamma ho gaya hai aur doosara jisne pahale grah ko nikamma kiya hai’ i.e. the upaya has to be done for two planets one that has been afflicted and the other which has afflicted the first one. If an upaya has been suggested only for one planet then it could be an upaya for any thing else but not an upaya for pitri rin. [ 5 ] Is it necessary that the Pitri Rin has to be evident in a few more kundalis of the family? I think no. I have quoted a situation above where it is evident that the rin will be reflected only in the kundali of the progeny of the doctor and not in the kundali of the doctor or his generation. [ 6 ] Is the chapter on Pitri Rin titled as ‘ uljhan ke grah ‘ in the 1952 urdu edition? Yes. I am uploading the page 121 and page

122 of the lal Kitab urdu edition in the file section for every one to see. The chapter on Pitri Rin starts at 121, the title page. If some one claims that pandit ji meant some thing else by ‘uljhan ke grah’ and not the pitri rin, then let him come out with it. Respectfully, Chandra Prakash

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