Half - blind horoscope : opening statement

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Sirs,

 

While we are talking about Blind horoscope, I thought of adding

another string related to the topic.

 

Half-blind horoscope, is yet another of the Lal Kitab concepts. I am

not quite happy with the word half-blind. It is a loose translation

of the Hindi word Ratandhra which means one who can not see at

night.

In the North-west India the word for ratandhra is nheorata. In the

Lal Kitab the reference to this half blind horoscope occurs thrice.

 

[ 1 ] Farman 14 : teve ki kismein { page 226 urdu ed 1952}

 

saat shani aur sooraj chauthe, aadha andha nheorata ho

 

[ page 69 Arun sanhita, page 164 Keshavanand , page 208 goswami &

vashishtha]

 

[ 2 ] There is again a reference to it in the section on Sun in the

4th house:

{ page 324 urdu ed 1952 }

 

mand papi aulad ho mandi, nheorata shani ghar saat ka ho

 

[ page 108 AS ; page 248 Kesh ; page 375 G & V ]

 

[ 3 ] A foot note # 14 on the section for Saturn in the 7th house [

page 620 urdu ed 1952]

 

hijara nikamma aadmi- nheorate wala teva { aise teve mein raat ke

waqt grah kaam nahi karte } - sooraj # 4

 

[ page 215 AS ; page 10 KS 2nd Vol ; page 568 G & V ]

 

 

Now how does a Saturn placed in the 7th house effect a Sun placed in

the 4th house ? Saturn in the 7th house is considered as exalted {

LK concept}. In Vedic astrology the Saturn in the 7th becomes

digbali {directional strength }. Saturn becomes all the more

powerful at night { kaal bal }.

Now such a strong Saturn from the 7th has its 10th aspect on the Sun

in the 4th { who says that LK doesn’t use vedic astrology aspects }.

Why doesn’t the same thing happen if the Sun is placed in the 1st

house which then will have the 7th aspect of Saturn ?

Because the Sun is placed in its house of exaltation and its pakka

ghar hence strong and not susceptible to the attack of saturn.

What if the Sun is placed in the 9th house, it will be under the 3rd

aspect of the Saturn placed in the 7th ?

Because the Sun in the 9th is in the pakka ghar of Jupiter. It is

assumed that the Sun is under the protection of Guru { guru sharan }

therefore the Saturn can not harm the Sun.

 

The result of this combination :

 

A person with this combination should not start any new project or

venture at night. He should not make plans for any new project at

night. Such projects might run into difficulties and may not be

successful.

 

The upaya will have to be done of Saturn.

 

faithfully,

 

Varun Trivedi

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Respected Varun JiYes U asked some root-questions in perview of Half Blind (nheorata or Andhraata Tevaa).Bfor this here disscussed Full blind Horoscope also.But here another question is - Y it called or named or addressed with a desease of sight as ANDHAA (Blind)Horoscope & Nehorata (Half Blind who is able to see in day or sunlight)Tevaa.Accrding to ur massage - Y sun in 4th is so weak or its immuno system is so weak that it can be effected by saturn in 7th at once? Im not making any correction of u, just adding some views to expand the logic with lalkitab system in following lines Ans:- Respected Varun ji, Sun in 4th means - The native borned in mid of the night.I want to clear here that from morning sun moves from 1st house to 12th,11th, 10th, etc.By this movement Sun will be in 4th house during mid- night near about 24:00 (Midnight).U know that sATURN is accepted powerful in night in LK concept, due to his declared own time & atmosphere of darkness & at other side the sun in 4th is so weak after a long journey of the day or its improper time that its immuno system cannot fight against the infection of exalted saturn ,which is coming from 7th house through the path of 10th aspect.That is y - the horoscope of this combinaion has been called Andhrataa (Half Blind) Horoscope.Now u can under stand that Sun in 1st & saturn in 7th can not be called as Andhrataa (Half Blind) Horoscope bcoz Sun will be in 1st house near the time of sunrise & it will not be vulnerable to the attack of saturn.So saturn cant harm. At other side if saturn may be in 1st house & sun in 7th ,it also cant be addressed as Andhrataa (Half Blind) Horoscope due to time of evening bfor sunset & saturn cant bcome powerful in the PAKKA GHAR (house) of Sun.All this im writting in perview of Andhrataa (Half Blind) Horoscope ,the result will be counted as bad or good condition of planets in such a situation of saturn 1st & sun in 7th.We have to leave here concept of Andhrataa (Half Blind) Horoscope. In both conditions of blind or Andhrataa (Half Blind) Horoscope , the Lalkitab advises to serve 10 blinds with Food (No donation of money ,directly food only).In my opinion ,Horoscope may be ANDHAA (Blind)Horoscope or Nehorata horoscope.But a situation is same there - The 4th house is included at all in both combinations & we know that 4th house is province of Moon. Saturn is owner of sight ,bad saturn will cause the desease of sight ,spoiling moon whose object is EYE BALL.So spoiling moon's house with aspect ,Lalkitab addressed ANDHAA (Blind)Horoscope & Nehorata Horoscope.It doesnt mean that the person will be eye patient having ANDHAA (Blind)Horoscope & Nehorata horoscope.But possibilties may be.As result u said so much proper :--A person with this combination should not start any new project orventure at night. He should not make plans for any new project atnight. Such projects might run into difficulties and may not besuccessful. So having these type of Horoscopes shud serve 10 blinds with food at once & do not finalize their major works of life in night.This technique will be most helpful for those who r serving at higher posts & organise Board meetings at night over dinner.With RegardsLalkitabee V.K.Shukla , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd wrote:>> Sirs,> > While we are talking about Blind horoscope, I thought of adding > another string related to the topic.> > Half-blind horoscope, is yet another of the Lal Kitab concepts. I am > not quite happy with the word half-blind. It is a loose translation > of the Hindi word Ratandhra which means one who can not see at > night.> In the North-west India the word for ratandhra is nheorata. In the > Lal Kitab the reference to this half blind horoscope occurs thrice.> > [ 1 ] Farman 14 : teve ki kismein { page 226 urdu ed 1952}> > saat shani aur sooraj chauthe, aadha andha nheorata ho> > [ page 69 Arun sanhita, page 164 Keshavanand , page 208 goswami & > vashishtha]> > [ 2 ] There is again a reference to it in the section on Sun in the > 4th house:> { page 324 urdu ed 1952 }> > mand papi aulad ho mandi, nheorata shani ghar saat ka ho> > [ page 108 AS ; page 248 Kesh ; page 375 G & V ]> > [ 3 ] A foot note # 14 on the section for Saturn in the 7th house [ > page 620 urdu ed 1952]> > hijara nikamma aadmi- nheorate wala teva { aise teve mein raat ke > waqt grah kaam nahi karte } - sooraj # 4> > [ page 215 AS ; page 10 KS 2nd Vol ; page 568 G & V ]> > > Now how does a Saturn placed in the 7th house effect a Sun placed in > the 4th house ? Saturn in the 7th house is considered as exalted { > LK concept}. In Vedic astrology the Saturn in the 7th becomes > digbali {directional strength }. Saturn becomes all the more > powerful at night { kaal bal }.> Now such a strong Saturn from the 7th has its 10th aspect on the Sun > in the 4th { who says that LK doesn’t use vedic astrology aspects }. > Why doesn’t the same thing happen if the Sun is placed in the 1st > house which then will have the 7th aspect of Saturn ?> Because the Sun is placed in its house of exaltation and its pakka > ghar hence strong and not susceptible to the attack of saturn. > What if the Sun is placed in the 9th house, it will be under the 3rd > aspect of the Saturn placed in the 7th ? > Because the Sun in the 9th is in the pakka ghar of Jupiter. It is > assumed that the Sun is under the protection of Guru { guru sharan }> therefore the Saturn can not harm the Sun.> > The result of this combination :> > A person with this combination should not start any new project or > venture at night. He should not make plans for any new project at > night. Such projects might run into difficulties and may not be > successful.> > The upaya will have to be done of Saturn.> > faithfully,> > Varun Trivedi>

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Respected Varun JiYes U asked some root-questions in perview of Half Blind (nheorata or Andhraata Tevaa).Bfor this here disscussed Full blind Horoscope also.But here another question is - Y it called or named or addressed with a desease of sight as ANDHAA (Blind)Horoscope & Nehorata (Half Blind who is able to see in day or sunlight)Tevaa.Accrding to ur massage - Y sun in 4th is so weak or its immuno system is so weak that it can be effected by saturn in 7th at once? Im not making any correction of u, just adding some views to expand the logic with lalkitab system in following lines Ans:- Respected Varun ji, Sun in 4th means - The native borned in mid of the night.I want to clear here that from morning sun moves from 1st house to 12th,11th, 10th, etc.By this movement Sun will be in 4th house during mid- night near about 24:00 (Midnight).U know that sATURN is accepted powerful in night in LK concept, due to his declared own time & atmosphere of darkness & at other side the sun in 4th is so weak after a long journey of the day or its improper time that its immuno system cannot fight against the infection of exalted saturn ,which is coming from 7th house through the path of 10th aspect.That is y - the horoscope of this combinaion has been called Andhrataa (Half Blind) Horoscope.Now u can under stand that Sun in 1st & saturn in 7th can not be called as Andhrataa (Half Blind) Horoscope bcoz Sun will be in 1st house near the time of sunrise & it will not be vulnerable to the attack of saturn.So saturn cant harm. At other side if saturn may be in 1st house & sun in 7th ,it also cant be addressed as Andhrataa (Half Blind) Horoscope due to time of evening bfor sunset & saturn cant bcome powerful in the PAKKA GHAR (house) of Sun.All this im writting in perview of Andhrataa (Half Blind) Horoscope ,the result will be counted as bad or good condition of planets in such a situation of saturn 1st & sun in 7th.We have to leave here concept of Andhrataa (Half Blind) Horoscope. In both conditions of blind or Andhrataa (Half Blind) Horoscope , the Lalkitab advises to serve 10 blinds with Food (No donation of money ,directly food only).In my opinion ,Horoscope may be ANDHAA (Blind)Horoscope or Nehorata horoscope.But a situation is same there - The 4th house is included at all in both combinations & we know that 4th house is province of Moon. Saturn is owner of sight ,bad saturn will cause the desease of sight ,spoiling moon whose object is EYE BALL.So spoiling moon's house with aspect ,Lalkitab addressed ANDHAA (Blind)Horoscope & Nehorata Horoscope.It doesnt mean that the person will be eye patient having ANDHAA (Blind)Horoscope & Nehorata horoscope.But possibilties may be.As result u said so much proper :--A person with this combination should not start any new project orventure at night. He should not make plans for any new project atnight. Such projects might run into difficulties and may not besuccessful. So having these type of Horoscopes shud serve 10 blinds with food at once & do not finalize their major works of life in night.This technique will be most helpful for those who r serving at higher posts & organise Board meetings at night over dinner.With RegardsLalkitabee V.K.Shukla , "varun_trvd" <varun_trvd wrote:>> Sirs,> > While we are talking about Blind horoscope, I thought of adding > another string related to the topic.> > Half-blind horoscope, is yet another of the Lal Kitab concepts. I am > not quite happy with the word half-blind. It is a loose translation > of the Hindi word Ratandhra which means one who can not see at > night.> In the North-west India the word for ratandhra is nheorata. In the > Lal Kitab the reference to this half blind horoscope occurs thrice.> > [ 1 ] Farman 14 : teve ki kismein { page 226 urdu ed 1952}> > saat shani aur sooraj chauthe, aadha andha nheorata ho> > [ page 69 Arun sanhita, page 164 Keshavanand , page 208 goswami & > vashishtha]> > [ 2 ] There is again a reference to it in the section on Sun in the > 4th house:> { page 324 urdu ed 1952 }> > mand papi aulad ho mandi, nheorata shani ghar saat ka ho> > [ page 108 AS ; page 248 Kesh ; page 375 G & V ]> > [ 3 ] A foot note # 14 on the section for Saturn in the 7th house [ > page 620 urdu ed 1952]> > hijara nikamma aadmi- nheorate wala teva { aise teve mein raat ke > waqt grah kaam nahi karte } - sooraj # 4> > [ page 215 AS ; page 10 KS 2nd Vol ; page 568 G & V ]> > > Now how does a Saturn placed in the 7th house effect a Sun placed in > the 4th house ? Saturn in the 7th house is considered as exalted { > LK concept}. In Vedic astrology the Saturn in the 7th becomes > digbali {directional strength }. Saturn becomes all the more > powerful at night { kaal bal }.> Now such a strong Saturn from the 7th has its 10th aspect on the Sun > in the 4th { who says that LK doesn’t use vedic astrology aspects }. > Why doesn’t the same thing happen if the Sun is placed in the 1st > house which then will have the 7th aspect of Saturn ?> Because the Sun is placed in its house of exaltation and its pakka > ghar hence strong and not susceptible to the attack of saturn. > What if the Sun is placed in the 9th house, it will be under the 3rd > aspect of the Saturn placed in the 7th ? > Because the Sun in the 9th is in the pakka ghar of Jupiter. It is > assumed that the Sun is under the protection of Guru { guru sharan }> therefore the Saturn can not harm the Sun.> > The result of this combination :> > A person with this combination should not start any new project or > venture at night. He should not make plans for any new project at > night. Such projects might run into difficulties and may not be > successful.> > The upaya will have to be done of Saturn.> > faithfully,> > Varun Trivedi>