Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Respactable scholars I am a novice as far as the Lal Kitab jyotish is concerned, I am a bhagat of this astrology stream. I would like to raise one important question and wish that every scholar give his opinion on this. I am aware that some of the members may find it huting but believe me this will create a clear view for students like me. My question for the topic is KYA LAL KITAB WALON KO JATAK SE PAISE LENE CHAHIYE YA NAHI? respected members I heard that Shri Roop Chand Joshi ji never took a single paisa from anyone for readinding kundli and telling upaye. My in-laws family use to go to Pundit ji for kundli and varshphal upaye and never paid him anything. I was inspired by my in-laws family to show my chart to Pundit jis son Pt. Som nath ji when I visited canada in 2003. But I was surprised to know that he charged every one a big amount. I too paid him the fee alongwith some others people. But even after doing all the upayas I did not get any benefit. I know many other astrologers who never accepted any fees. But most of the known names of Lal Kitab are professionals. Pundit jis son Mr. Som dutt his grandson Mr. Iqbal, Mr. Lal kitabi, Mr. Prabhakar, Mr. Sekhri,Mr. Umesh sharma, Mr. Kulbeer, Mr. Goswami are either full time or part time professionals. My point is whether it is right to do Lal Kitab astrology professionally? I heard that 10-20 years ago no Lal kitab astrologer was accepting a single paisa or a favour from the people. My view or opening statement in this matter is that all those who are earning money through lal kitab are hurting the soul of Shri Pundit Roop chand ji. This astrology is for LOK KALYAN not for earning money. Plese guide me in this matter. Please forgive if someone is hurt Surinder Sood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 respected sood sahib as for me i haven't charged even a single penny for lk consultation nor am i a parttime or fulltime practitioner but i Pt. Roop chand joshi did insisted on paymaent for charity; old timers who were close to pt; ji can more eloaborate on this issue. kulbir bainss3_sood <s3_sood wrote: Respactable scholarsI am a novice as far as the Lal Kitab jyotish is concerned, I am a bhagat of this astrology stream. I would like to raise one important question and wish that every scholar give his opinion on this. I am aware that some of the members may find it huting but believe me this will create a clear view for students like me.My question for the topic is KYA LAL KITAB WALON KO JATAK SE PAISE LENE CHAHIYE YA NAHI?respected members I heard that Shri Roop Chand Joshi ji never took a single paisa from anyone for readinding kundli and telling upaye. My in-laws family use to go to Pundit ji for kundli and varshphal upaye and never paid him anything. I was inspired by my in-laws family to show my chart to Pundit jis son Pt. Som nath ji when I visited canada in 2003. But I was surprised to know that he charged every one a big amount. I too paid him the fee alongwith some others people. But even after doing all the upayas I did not get any benefit. I know many other astrologers who never accepted any fees. But most of the known names of Lal Kitab are professionals. Pundit jis son Mr. Som dutt his grandson Mr. Iqbal, Mr. Lal kitabi, Mr. Prabhakar, Mr. Sekhri,Mr. Umesh sharma, Mr. Kulbeer, Mr. Goswami are either full time or part time professionals. My point is whether it is right to do Lal Kitab astrology professionally? I heard that 10-20 years ago no Lal kitab astrologer was accepting a single paisa or a favour from the people. My view or opening statement in this matter is that all those who are earning money through lal kitab are hurting the soul of Shri Pundit Roop chand ji. This astrology is for LOK KALYAN not for earning money. Plese guide me in this matter. Please forgive if someone is hurtSurinder Sood Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Whatever there differences may be lalkitabee shukla ji and umesh have atleast one thing in common and given an option i would also follow the same. both of them take money from those who can afford. And for those who can't afford, give free guidance; even pay for the upayas from their own pocket. as for u sood sahib if u r from panchkula i know a few persons from who u charged for consultations and even for making tewas from thumbprints. although a valid point to discuss, didn't expected it from u or r u shattered by the recent accident that almost cost u ur life. kulbir bains - -- In , " s3_sood " <s3_sood wrote: > > Respactable scholars > > I am a novice as far as the Lal Kitab jyotish is concerned, I am a > bhagat of this astrology > > stream. I would like to raise one important question and wish that > every scholar give his > > opinion on this. I am aware that some of the members may find it > huting but believe me this > > will create a clear view for students like me. > > My question for the topic is KYA LAL KITAB WALON KO JATAK SE PAISE > LENE CHAHIYE YA NAHI? > > respected members I heard that Shri Roop Chand Joshi ji never took a > single paisa from > > anyone for readinding kundli and telling upaye. My in-laws family > use to go to Pundit ji for > > kundli and varshphal upaye and never paid him anything. I was > inspired by my in-laws family > > to show my chart to Pundit jis son Pt. Som nath ji when I visited > canada in 2003. But I was > > surprised to know that he charged every one a big amount. I too paid > him the fee alongwith > > some others people. But even after doing all the upayas I did not get > any benefit. > > I know many other astrologers who never accepted any fees. But most > of the known names of Lal Kitab are professionals. Pundit jis son Mr. > Som dutt his grandson Mr. Iqbal, Mr. Lal kitabi, Mr. Prabhakar, Mr. > Sekhri,Mr. Umesh sharma, Mr. Kulbeer, Mr. Goswami are either full > time or part time professionals. > > My point is whether it is right to do Lal Kitab astrology > professionally? I heard that 10-20 years ago no Lal kitab astrologer > was accepting a single paisa or a favour from the people. > > My view or opening statement in this matter is that all those who are > earning money through lal kitab are hurting the soul of Shri Pundit > Roop chand ji. This astrology is for LOK KALYAN not for earning > money. Plese guide me in this matter. > > Please forgive if someone is hurt > > Surinder Sood > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 dear Mr. Sood, U r right that Pt. roop lal ji never used to charge anything for Phaladesh and telling remedies. He used to say that one should not charge anything for telling remedies; and would even rebuke his son Mr. Tarsem who used to be present in his durbar on Sundays; if he sought for any favours from the visitors. his principle was that a pundit may charge any amount for preparing horoscopes;but should not charge for telling phaladesh and remedies. The remedies r only a helping tool; the remedies can not change the destiny of the individual.Normally, one comes to know the rmedies only when God wishes so and only God knows that the interprettations of the horiscope r correct or not. I would go further ahead and say that Jyotish without a Sidhi is a very very difficult task. He had got published only 200 copies of the 1952 dition .his sole purpose was to get people out of the clutches of so called jyotishies. One should go to a pundit only to get his horosope prepared; thereafter, he can read LK and take help of remedies himself;that is why varshphal table for 120 years was prepared. He distributed about 100 books to his devotees;they started professional business and the people who did not get benefit from them began comingto Pt.Ji and then he stopped giving those books. For many years ,LK has not been availlable because it was thought that the book has a curse on it for its printing--there were phtostat,cyclostyled and typed or incomplete versions and it is only now that the people have come out with complete books. It is not for us to judge the people; bhaskar ji.prabhakar ji and now tyagi ji and many others of this forum r doing a very good job in teaching LK;it is a very difficult system and those ones who have had the first hand experiences can understand its basics. with best wishes; cincerely kiranjeetood <s3_sood wrote: Respactable scholarsI am a novice as far as the Lal Kitab jyotish is concerned, I am a bhagat of this astrology stream. I would like to raise one important question and wish that every scholar give his opinion on this. I am aware that some of the members may find it huting but believe me this will create a clear view for students like me.My question for the topic is KYA LAL KITAB WALON KO JATAK SE PAISE LENE CHAHIYE YA NAHI?respected members I heard that Shri Roop Chand Joshi ji never took a single paisa from anyone for readinding kundli and telling upaye. My in-laws family use to go to Pundit ji for kundli and varshphal upaye and never paid him anything. I was inspired by my in-laws family to show my chart to Pundit jis son Pt. Som nath ji when I visited canada in 2003. But I was surprised to know that he charged every one a big amount. I too paid him the fee alongwith some others people. But even after doing all the upayas I did not get any benefit. I know many other astrologers who never accepted any fees. But most of the known names of Lal Kitab are professionals. Pundit jis son Mr. Som dutt his grandson Mr. Iqbal, Mr. Lal kitabi, Mr. Prabhakar, Mr. Sekhri,Mr. Umesh sharma, Mr. Kulbeer, Mr. Goswami are either full time or part time professionals. My point is whether it is right to do Lal Kitab astrology professionally? I heard that 10-20 years ago no Lal kitab astrologer was accepting a single paisa or a favour from the people. My view or opening statement in this matter is that all those who are earning money through lal kitab are hurting the soul of Shri Pundit Roop chand ji. This astrology is for LOK KALYAN not for earning money. Plese guide me in this matter. Please forgive if someone is hurtSurinder Sood 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Search movie showtime shortcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 But sir i have seen horoscopes anlysed by pt. ji. they are available with prabhakar ji where pt.ji made a noting for a specified amount for charity. just read any tewa for which he prescribed upayas which he specially wrote with red ink and u will definetely see it. prabhakar ji says u knew pt.ji very closely; how come u miss this point. kulbir bainskiranjit kumar <kapatjal wrote: dear Mr. Sood, U r right that Pt. roop lal ji never used to charge anything for Phaladesh and telling remedies. He used to say that one should not charge anything for telling remedies; and would even rebuke his son Mr. Tarsem who used to be present in his durbar on Sundays; if he sought for any favours from the visitors. his principle was that a pundit may charge any amount for preparing horoscopes;but should not charge for telling phaladesh and remedies. The remedies r only a helping tool; the remedies can not change the destiny of the individual.Normally, one comes to know the rmedies only when God wishes so and only God knows that the interprettations of the horiscope r correct or not. I would go further ahead and say that Jyotish without a Sidhi is a very very difficult task. He had got published only 200 copies of the 1952 dition .his sole purpose was to get people out of the clutches of so called jyotishies. One should go to a pundit only to get his horosope prepared; thereafter, he can read LK and take help of remedies himself;that is why varshphal table for 120 years was prepared. He distributed about 100 books to his devotees;they started professional business and the people who did not get benefit from them began comingto Pt.Ji and then he stopped giving those books. For many years ,LK has not been availlable because it was thought that the book has a curse on it for its printing--there were phtostat,cyclostyled and typed or incomplete versions and it is only now that the people have come out with complete books. It is not for us to judge the people; bhaskar ji.prabhakar ji and now tyagi ji and many others of this forum r doing a very good job in teaching LK;it is a very difficult system and those ones who have had the first hand experiences can understand its basics. with best wishes; cincerely kiranjeetood <s3_sood > wrote: Respactable scholarsI am a novice as far as the Lal Kitab jyotish is concerned, I am a bhagat of this astrology stream. I would like to raise one important question and wish that every scholar give his opinion on this. I am aware that some of the members may find it huting but believe me this will create a clear view for students like me.My question for the topic is KYA LAL KITAB WALON KO JATAK SE PAISE LENE CHAHIYE YA NAHI?respected members I heard that Shri Roop Chand Joshi ji never took a single paisa from anyone for readinding kundli and telling upaye. My in-laws family use to go to Pundit ji for kundli and varshphal upaye and never paid him anything. I was inspired by my in-laws family to show my chart to Pundit jis son Pt. Som nath ji when I visited canada in 2003. But I was surprised to know that he charged every one a big amount. I too paid him the fee alongwith some others people. But even after doing all the upayas I did not get any benefit. I know many other astrologers who never accepted any fees. But most of the known names of Lal Kitab are professionals. Pundit jis son Mr. Som dutt his grandson Mr. Iqbal, Mr. Lal kitabi, Mr. Prabhakar, Mr. Sekhri,Mr. Umesh sharma, Mr. Kulbeer, Mr. Goswami are either full time or part time professionals. My point is whether it is right to do Lal Kitab astrology professionally? I heard that 10-20 years ago no Lal kitab astrologer was accepting a single paisa or a favour from the people. My view or opening statement in this matter is that all those who are earning money through lal kitab are hurting the soul of Shri Pundit Roop chand ji. This astrology is for LOK KALYAN not for earning money. Plese guide me in this matter. Please forgive if someone is hurtSurinder Sood 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no timewith the Search movie showtime shortcut. Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Dear members, The topic of Lal Kitab and professionalism is closed now. We need not devote any more time on it. With regards, Chandra Prakash , kulbir bains <kulbirbains wrote: > > But sir i have seen horoscopes anlysed by pt. ji. they are available with prabhakar ji where pt.ji made a noting for a specified amount for charity. just read any tewa for which he prescribed upayas which he specially wrote with red ink and u will definetely see it. prabhakar ji says u knew pt.ji very closely; how come u miss this point. > kulbir bains > > kiranjit kumar <kapatjal wrote: > dear Mr. Sood, > U r right that Pt. roop lal ji never used to charge anything for Phaladesh and telling remedies. He used to say that one should not charge anything for telling remedies; and would even rebuke his son Mr. Tarsem who used to be present in his durbar on Sundays; if he sought for any favours from the visitors. > his principle was that a pundit may charge any amount for preparing horoscopes;but should not charge for telling phaladesh and remedies. > The remedies r only a helping tool; the remedies can not change the destiny of the individual.Normally, one comes to know the rmedies only when God wishes so and only God knows that the interprettations of the horiscope r correct or not. I would go further ahead and say that Jyotish without a Sidhi is a very very difficult task. > He had got published only 200 copies of the 1952 dition .his sole purpose was to get people out of the clutches of so called jyotishies. One should go to a pundit only to get his horosope prepared; thereafter, he can read LK and take help of remedies himself;that is why varshphal table for 120 years was prepared. He distributed about 100 books to his devotees;they started professional business and the people who did not get benefit from them began comingto Pt.Ji and then he stopped giving those books. > For many years ,LK has not been availlable because it was thought that the book has a curse on it for its printing--there were phtostat,cyclostyled and typed or incomplete versions and it is only now that the people have come out with complete books. > It is not for us to judge the people; bhaskar ji.prabhakar ji and now tyagi ji and many others of this forum r doing a very good job in teaching LK;it is a very difficult system and those ones who have had the first hand experiences can understand its basics. > with best wishes; > cincerely > kiranjeet > > ood <s3_sood wrote: > Respactable scholars > > I am a novice as far as the Lal Kitab jyotish is concerned, I am a > bhagat of this astrology > > stream. I would like to raise one important question and wish that > every scholar give his > > opinion on this. I am aware that some of the members may find it > huting but believe me this > > will create a clear view for students like me. > > My question for the topic is KYA LAL KITAB WALON KO JATAK SE PAISE > LENE CHAHIYE YA NAHI? > > respected members I heard that Shri Roop Chand Joshi ji never took a > single paisa from > > anyone for readinding kundli and telling upaye. My in-laws family > use to go to Pundit ji for > > kundli and varshphal upaye and never paid him anything. I was > inspired by my in-laws family > > to show my chart to Pundit jis son Pt. Som nath ji when I visited > canada in 2003. But I was > > surprised to know that he charged every one a big amount. I too paid > him the fee alongwith > > some others people. But even after doing all the upayas I did not get > any benefit. > > I know many other astrologers who never accepted any fees. But most > of the known names of Lal Kitab are professionals. Pundit jis son Mr. > Som dutt his grandson Mr. Iqbal, Mr. Lal kitabi, Mr. Prabhakar, Mr. > Sekhri,Mr. Umesh sharma, Mr. Kulbeer, Mr. Goswami are either full > time or part time professionals. > > My point is whether it is right to do Lal Kitab astrology > professionally? I heard that 10-20 years ago no Lal kitab astrologer > was accepting a single paisa or a favour from the people. > > My view or opening statement in this matter is that all those who are > earning money through lal kitab are hurting the soul of Shri Pundit > Roop chand ji. This astrology is for LOK KALYAN not for earning > money. Plese guide me in this matter. > > Please forgive if someone is hurt > > Surinder Sood > > > > > > > 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time > with the Search movie showtime shortcut. > > > > > > HereÂ's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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