Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Respected all members I am very very gratefull to all for taking my points for discussion . These all are for general members not perticularly for me I again wish toconcentrate your kind attention to an other point if any one has some knowledge of relationship between PLANETS with PLANTS to get rid off such type of malafic effect or other type of effects, please do share with me regarding said point. Second thing in this profession if some one take help from INDER JALL , can help the needy persons successfully Please never mind if it is the time killing source only in discusions then also should enjoy all WISH YOU ALL ALL THE BEST Eagerly waiting for negative / positive responsecptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007 wrote: Dear Kulbir ji,If you notice Thakur saheb has asked for two things : how to appease Saturn in various houses; and what upaya to be done to get rid of the malefic effects of the Saturn in those houses.You as a scholar of Lal Kitab know that such questions can not be answered in the absence of a horoscope. It is only after ascertaining the maleficity of the planet in the horoscope the upaya to either appease a planet or to get rid of the maleficity of the planet ,can be suggested.Yes the books on Lal Kitab available in the market, including the one available on the net, gives wholesale upaya for each planet in each house. And you know what these upaya are like.You will agree that we should not encourage this tendency of wholesale upaya as given in these baazar books.The second reason was that if we answer such a query on Saturn, then there might be requests for other planets. There will be no end to it. This will lead us away from our intention to discuss concepts and principles.However if you think that the query of Thakur Saheb is justified , then I will request you to kindly help us and prepare an answer for him.As for being a moderator, my job is only to moderate the language, that too when I feel it might hurt some one.Soon we would have finished with the current two topics of Pitri Rin and Blind horoscopes. I will request the members to initiate a discussion on some other concept.With regards,Chandra prakash , kulbir bains <kulbirbains wrote:>> sir, in my personal opinion thakur sahib has raised a valid point for disscussion. he is not asking about a particular remedy for himself but a generalised question.but as a moderator u have the final word. i would suggest that ur goodself categorize the topics for disscussion and fix a time limit for each topic.> kulbir bains> > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007 wrote:> Dear kaiwal ji,> > This group is for discussion on various concepts and principles of > the Lal Kitab and not to suggest upaya for various planets. > Therefore you might have to seek answer to your query from some > other group.> > Regards,> > Chandra Prakash> > , kaiwal thakur > <i9815739229@> wrote:> >> > Respected all> > How one can please SAT or get rid off its effects from > differrent houses> > Eagerly waiting to chat or for mail > > Wish you all all the best always> > > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.> > Try the Mail Beta.> >> > > > > > > > HereÂ's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers> Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.Try the Mail Beta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 Dear Kaiwal ji, May be some members who are familiar with plants associated with planets would come up with a write up. But let us not talk of Indra Jal here. Lal Kitab is not a book of Totka-tamanas. Discussing Indra Jal in this forum will send wrong signals regarding the Lal Kitab. Therefore Indra Jal totkas can not be discussed here. With regards, Chandra Prakash , kaiwal thakur <i9815739229 wrote: > > Respected all members > I am very very gratefull to all for taking my points for discussion . These all are for general members not perticularly for me > I again wish toconcentrate your kind attention to an other point if any one has some knowledge of relationship between PLANETS with PLANTS to get rid off such type of malafic effect or other type of effects, please do share with me regarding said point. > Second thing in this profession if some one take help from INDER JALL , can help the needy persons successfully > Please never mind if it is the time killing source only in discusions then also should enjoy all > WISH YOU ALL ALL THE BEST > Eagerly waiting for negative / positive response > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007 wrote: > Dear Kulbir ji, > > If you notice Thakur saheb has asked for two things : how to appease > Saturn in various houses; and what upaya to be done to get rid of > the malefic effects of the Saturn in those houses. > > You as a scholar of Lal Kitab know that such questions can not be > answered in the absence of a horoscope. It is only after > ascertaining the maleficity of the planet in the horoscope the upaya > to either appease a planet or to get rid of the maleficity of the > planet ,can be suggested. > > Yes the books on Lal Kitab available in the market, including the > one available on the net, gives wholesale upaya for each planet in > each house. And you know what these upaya are like. > > You will agree that we should not encourage this tendency of > wholesale upaya as given in these baazar books. > > The second reason was that if we answer such a query on Saturn, then > there might be requests for other planets. There will be no end to > it. This will lead us away from our intention to discuss concepts > and principles. > > However if you think that the query of Thakur Saheb is justified , > then I will request you to kindly help us and prepare an answer for > him. > > As for being a moderator, my job is only to moderate the language, > that too when I feel it might hurt some one. > > Soon we would have finished with the current two topics of Pitri Rin > and Blind horoscopes. I will request the members to initiate a > discussion on some other concept. > > With regards, > > Chandra prakash > > , kulbir bains > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > sir, in my personal opinion thakur sahib has raised a valid point > for disscussion. he is not asking about a particular remedy for > himself but a generalised question.but as a moderator u have the > final word. i would suggest that ur goodself categorize the topics > for disscussion and fix a time limit for each topic. > > > kulbir bains > > > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote: > > Dear kaiwal ji, > > > > This group is for discussion on various concepts and principles of > > the Lal Kitab and not to suggest upaya for various planets. > > Therefore you might have to seek answer to your query from some > > other group. > > > > Regards, > > > > Chandra Prakash > > > > , kaiwal thakur > > <i9815739229@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected all > > > How one can please SAT or get rid off its effects from > > differrent houses > > > Eagerly waiting to chat or for mail > > > Wish you all all the best always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > > > Try the Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here§s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Mail Beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 Inder jal is a highly coded book unless u know the codes it it won't help, like onion or owl does not men onion or owl but something else. guru is amust in this field. kulbir bains--- In , kaiwal thakur <i9815739229 wrote: > > Respected all members > I am very very gratefull to all for taking my points for discussion . These all are for general members not perticularly for me > I again wish toconcentrate your kind attention to an other point if any one has some knowledge of relationship between PLANETS with PLANTS to get rid off such type of malafic effect or other type of effects, please do share with me regarding said point. > Second thing in this profession if some one take help from INDER JALL , can help the needy persons successfully > Please never mind if it is the time killing source only in discusions then also should enjoy all > WISH YOU ALL ALL THE BEST > Eagerly waiting for negative / positive response > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007 wrote: > Dear Kulbir ji, > > If you notice Thakur saheb has asked for two things : how to appease > Saturn in various houses; and what upaya to be done to get rid of > the malefic effects of the Saturn in those houses. > > You as a scholar of Lal Kitab know that such questions can not be > answered in the absence of a horoscope. It is only after > ascertaining the maleficity of the planet in the horoscope the upaya > to either appease a planet or to get rid of the maleficity of the > planet ,can be suggested. > > Yes the books on Lal Kitab available in the market, including the > one available on the net, gives wholesale upaya for each planet in > each house. And you know what these upaya are like. > > You will agree that we should not encourage this tendency of > wholesale upaya as given in these baazar books. > > The second reason was that if we answer such a query on Saturn, then > there might be requests for other planets. There will be no end to > it. This will lead us away from our intention to discuss concepts > and principles. > > However if you think that the query of Thakur Saheb is justified , > then I will request you to kindly help us and prepare an answer for > him. > > As for being a moderator, my job is only to moderate the language, > that too when I feel it might hurt some one. > > Soon we would have finished with the current two topics of Pitri Rin > and Blind horoscopes. I will request the members to initiate a > discussion on some other concept. > > With regards, > > Chandra prakash > > , kulbir bains > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > sir, in my personal opinion thakur sahib has raised a valid point > for disscussion. he is not asking about a particular remedy for > himself but a generalised question.but as a moderator u have the > final word. i would suggest that ur goodself categorize the topics > for disscussion and fix a time limit for each topic. > > > kulbir bains > > > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote: > > Dear kaiwal ji, > > > > This group is for discussion on various concepts and principles of > > the Lal Kitab and not to suggest upaya for various planets. > > Therefore you might have to seek answer to your query from some > > other group. > > > > Regards, > > > > Chandra Prakash > > > > , kaiwal thakur > > <i9815739229@> wrote: > > > > > > Respected all > > > How one can please SAT or get rid off its effects from > > differrent houses > > > Eagerly waiting to chat or for mail > > > Wish you all all the best always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > > > Try the Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HereÂ's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > Try the Mail Beta. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 RespectedKulbir Ji it is true highly coded book but same as lalkitab totkey works same its totkey works. I donot wish to hurt you sir for general knowledge wrote if my words hurt you sorry for that have nice time kulbirbains <kulbirbains wrote: Inder jal is a highly coded book unless u know the codes it it won't help, like onion or owl does not men onion or owl but something else. guru is amust in this field. kulbir bains , kaiwal thakur <i9815739229 wrote:>> Respected all members> I am very very gratefull to all for taking my points for discussion . These all are for general members not perticularly for me> I again wish toconcentrate your kind attention to an other point if any one has some knowledge of relationship between PLANETS with PLANTS to get rid off such type of malafic effect or other type of effects, please do share with me regarding said point. > Second thing in this profession if some one take help from INDER JALL , can help the needy persons successfully> Please never mind if it is the time killing source only in discusions then also should enjoy all > WISH YOU ALL ALL THE BEST> Eagerly waiting for negative / positive response> > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007 wrote:> Dear Kulbir ji,> > If you notice Thakur saheb has asked for two things : how to appease > Saturn in various houses; and what upaya to be done to get rid of > the malefic effects of the Saturn in those houses.> > You as a scholar of Lal Kitab know that such questions can not be > answered in the absence of a horoscope. It is only after > ascertaining the maleficity of the planet in the horoscope the upaya > to either appease a planet or to get rid of the maleficity of the > planet ,can be suggested.> > Yes the books on Lal Kitab available in the market, including the > one available on the net, gives wholesale upaya for each planet in > each house. And you know what these upaya are like.> > You will agree that we should not encourage this tendency of > wholesale upaya as given in these baazar books.> > The second reason was that if we answer such a query on Saturn, then > there might be requests for other planets. There will be no end to > it. This will lead us away from our intention to discuss concepts > and principles.> > However if you think that the query of Thakur Saheb is justified , > then I will request you to kindly help us and prepare an answer for > him.> > As for being a moderator, my job is only to moderate the language, > that too when I feel it might hurt some one.> > Soon we would have finished with the current two topics of Pitri Rin > and Blind horoscopes. I will request the members to initiate a > discussion on some other concept.> > With regards,> > Chandra prakash> > , kulbir bains > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> >> > sir, in my personal opinion thakur sahib has raised a valid point > for disscussion. he is not asking about a particular remedy for > himself but a generalised question.but as a moderator u have the > final word. i would suggest that ur goodself categorize the topics > for disscussion and fix a time limit for each topic.> > > kulbir bains> > > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote:> > Dear kaiwal ji,> > > > This group is for discussion on various concepts and principles of > > the Lal Kitab and not to suggest upaya for various planets. > > Therefore you might have to seek answer to your query from some > > other group.> > > > Regards,> > > > Chandra Prakash> > > > , kaiwal thakur > > <i9815739229@> wrote:> > >> > > Respected all> > > How one can please SAT or get rid off its effects from > > differrent houses> > > Eagerly waiting to chat or for mail > > > Wish you all all the best always> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.> > > Try the Mail Beta.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HereÂ's a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers> >> > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.> Try the Mail Beta.> Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast with the Search weather shortcut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Dear Kaiwal ji, We will not discuss Indra Jal in this group. Therefore no more messages about it. Incidentally Lal Kitab upaya are not Totkas. Regards, Chandra Prakash , kaiwal thakur <i9815739229 wrote: > > RespectedKulbir Ji > it is true highly coded book but same as lalkitab totkey works same its totkey works. > I donot wish to hurt you sir for general knowledge wrote > if my words hurt you sorry for that > have nice time > > > kulbirbains <kulbirbains wrote: > Inder jal is a highly coded book unless u know the codes it it won't > help, like onion or owl does not men onion or owl but something > else. > guru is amust in this field. > kulbir bains--- In > , kaiwal thakur <i9815739229@> > wrote: > > > > Respected all members > > I am very very gratefull to all for taking my points for > discussion . These all are for general members not perticularly > for me > > I again wish toconcentrate your kind attention to an other > point if any one has some knowledge of relationship between > PLANETS with PLANTS to get rid off such type of malafic effect or > other type of effects, please do share with me regarding said point. > > Second thing in this profession if some one take help from > INDER JALL , can help the needy persons successfully > > Please never mind if it is the time killing source only in > discusions then also should enjoy all > > WISH YOU ALL ALL THE BEST > > Eagerly waiting for negative / positive response > > > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote: > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > > > If you notice Thakur saheb has asked for two things : how to > appease > > Saturn in various houses; and what upaya to be done to get rid of > > the malefic effects of the Saturn in those houses. > > > > You as a scholar of Lal Kitab know that such questions can not be > > answered in the absence of a horoscope. It is only after > > ascertaining the maleficity of the planet in the horoscope the > upaya > > to either appease a planet or to get rid of the maleficity of the > > planet ,can be suggested. > > > > Yes the books on Lal Kitab available in the market, including the > > one available on the net, gives wholesale upaya for each planet in > > each house. And you know what these upaya are like. > > > > You will agree that we should not encourage this tendency of > > wholesale upaya as given in these baazar books. > > > > The second reason was that if we answer such a query on Saturn, > then > > there might be requests for other planets. There will be no end to > > it. This will lead us away from our intention to discuss concepts > > and principles. > > > > However if you think that the query of Thakur Saheb is justified , > > then I will request you to kindly help us and prepare an answer > for > > him. > > > > As for being a moderator, my job is only to moderate the language, > > that too when I feel it might hurt some one. > > > > Soon we would have finished with the current two topics of Pitri > Rin > > and Blind horoscopes. I will request the members to initiate a > > discussion on some other concept. > > > > With regards, > > > > Chandra prakash > > > > , kulbir bains > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > sir, in my personal opinion thakur sahib has raised a valid > point > > for disscussion. he is not asking about a particular remedy for > > himself but a generalised question.but as a moderator u have the > > final word. i would suggest that ur goodself categorize the topics > > for disscussion and fix a time limit for each topic. > > > > > kulbir bains > > > > > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote: > > > Dear kaiwal ji, > > > > > > This group is for discussion on various concepts and principles > of > > > the Lal Kitab and not to suggest upaya for various planets. > > > Therefore you might have to seek answer to your query from some > > > other group. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Chandra Prakash > > > > > > , kaiwal thakur > > > <i9815739229@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected all > > > > How one can please SAT or get rid off its effects from > > > differrent houses > > > > Eagerly waiting to chat or for mail > > > > Wish you all all the best always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > > > > Try the Mail Beta. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here§s a new way to find what you're looking for - > Answers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. > > Try the Mail Beta. > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > with the Search weather shortcut. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Jai Shri Mataji!I am humbly apologising for sending a messege on the subject while you have asked for this to be stopped but I really do n ot understand anything said. What is Indra Jal, what is totka? While this is not part of Lal Kitab, it is very important to know what lal Kitab is and what is is NOT. So, please kindly explain so that I may not misunderstand this concept in the future. Again, I am sorry if I annoy you with this email. Regards, Dionisis - cptyagi2007 Saturday, April 07, 2007 6:25 PM Re: Debate and SATURN Dear Kaiwal ji,We will not discuss Indra Jal in this group. Therefore no more messages about it. Incidentally Lal Kitab upaya are not Totkas.Regards,Chandra Prakash , kaiwal thakur <i9815739229 wrote:>> RespectedKulbir Ji> it is true highly coded book but same as lalkitab totkey works same its totkey works.> I donot wish to hurt you sir for general knowledge wrote> if my words hurt you sorry for that> have nice time> > > kulbirbains <kulbirbains wrote:> Inder jal is a highly coded book unless u know the codes it it won't > help, like onion or owl does not men onion or owl but something > else. > guru is amust in this field. > kulbir bains> , kaiwal thakur <i9815739229@> > wrote:> >> > Respected all members> > I am very very gratefull to all for taking my points for > discussion . These all are for general members not perticularly > for me> > I again wish toconcentrate your kind attention to an other > point if any one has some knowledge of relationship between > PLANETS with PLANTS to get rid off such type of malafic effect or > other type of effects, please do share with me regarding said point. > > Second thing in this profession if some one take help from > INDER JALL , can help the needy persons successfully> > Please never mind if it is the time killing source only in > discusions then also should enjoy all > > WISH YOU ALL ALL THE BEST> > Eagerly waiting for negative / positive response> > > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote:> > Dear Kulbir ji,> > > > If you notice Thakur saheb has asked for two things : how to > appease > > Saturn in various houses; and what upaya to be done to get rid of > > the malefic effects of the Saturn in those houses.> > > > You as a scholar of Lal Kitab know that such questions can not be > > answered in the absence of a horoscope. It is only after > > ascertaining the maleficity of the planet in the horoscope the > upaya > > to either appease a planet or to get rid of the maleficity of the > > planet ,can be suggested.> > > > Yes the books on Lal Kitab available in the market, including the > > one available on the net, gives wholesale upaya for each planet in > > each house. And you know what these upaya are like.> > > > You will agree that we should not encourage this tendency of > > wholesale upaya as given in these baazar books.> > > > The second reason was that if we answer such a query on Saturn, > then > > there might be requests for other planets. There will be no end to > > it. This will lead us away from our intention to discuss concepts > > and principles.> > > > However if you think that the query of Thakur Saheb is justified , > > then I will request you to kindly help us and prepare an answer > for > > him.> > > > As for being a moderator, my job is only to moderate the language, > > that too when I feel it might hurt some one.> > > > Soon we would have finished with the current two topics of Pitri > Rin > > and Blind horoscopes. I will request the members to initiate a > > discussion on some other concept.> > > > With regards,> > > > Chandra prakash> > > > , kulbir bains > > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> > >> > > sir, in my personal opinion thakur sahib has raised a valid > point > > for disscussion. he is not asking about a particular remedy for > > himself but a generalised question.but as a moderator u have the > > final word. i would suggest that ur goodself categorize the topics > > for disscussion and fix a time limit for each topic.> > > > > kulbir bains> > > > > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote:> > > Dear kaiwal ji,> > > > > > This group is for discussion on various concepts and principles > of > > > the Lal Kitab and not to suggest upaya for various planets. > > > Therefore you might have to seek answer to your query from some > > > other group.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Chandra Prakash> > > > > > , kaiwal thakur > > > <i9815739229@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected all> > > > How one can please SAT or get rid off its effects from > > > differrent houses> > > > Eagerly waiting to chat or for mail > > > > Wish you all all the best always> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.> > > > Try the Mail Beta.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here§s a new way to find what you're looking for - > Answers> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.> > Try the Mail Beta.> >> > > > > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > with the Search weather shortcut.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 7, 2007 Report Share Posted April 7, 2007 Dear Kulbir ji, could you briefly explain to Dennis what Indra Jal is and the word Totka also. Dennis is from Greece a very keen student of Lal Kitab. I had him in mind when I requested you to translate your quotes in English. Regards, Chandra Prakash , " Dennis " <mprgrandmaster wrote: > > Jai Shri Mataji! > I am humbly apologising for sending a messege on the subject while you have asked for this to be stopped but I really do n ot understand anything said. What is Indra Jal, what is totka? While this is not part of Lal Kitab, it is very important to know what lal Kitab is and what is is NOT. So, please kindly explain so that I may not misunderstand this concept in the future. > Again, I am sorry if I annoy you with this email. > Regards, > Dionisis > - > cptyagi2007 > > Saturday, April 07, 2007 6:25 PM > Re: Debate and SATURN > > > Dear Kaiwal ji, > > We will not discuss Indra Jal in this group. Therefore no more > messages about it. Incidentally Lal Kitab upaya are not Totkas. > > Regards, > > Chandra Prakash > > , kaiwal thakur > <i9815739229@> wrote: > > > > RespectedKulbir Ji > > it is true highly coded book but same as lalkitab totkey > works same its totkey works. > > I donot wish to hurt you sir for general knowledge wrote > > if my words hurt you sorry for that > > have nice time > > > > > > kulbirbains <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > Inder jal is a highly coded book unless u know the codes > it it won't > > help, like onion or owl does not men onion or owl but something > > else. > > guru is amust in this field. > > kulbir bains--- In > > , kaiwal thakur <i9815739229@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Respected all members > > > I am very very gratefull to all for taking my points for > > discussion . These all are for general members not perticularly > > for me > > > I again wish toconcentrate your kind attention to an other > > point if any one has some knowledge of relationship between > > PLANETS with PLANTS to get rid off such type of malafic effect or > > other type of effects, please do share with me regarding said > point. > > > Second thing in this profession if some one take help from > > INDER JALL , can help the needy persons successfully > > > Please never mind if it is the time killing source only in > > discusions then also should enjoy all > > > WISH YOU ALL ALL THE BEST > > > Eagerly waiting for negative / positive response > > > > > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote: > > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > > > > > If you notice Thakur saheb has asked for two things : how to > > appease > > > Saturn in various houses; and what upaya to be done to get rid > of > > > the malefic effects of the Saturn in those houses. > > > > > > You as a scholar of Lal Kitab know that such questions can not > be > > > answered in the absence of a horoscope. It is only after > > > ascertaining the maleficity of the planet in the horoscope the > > upaya > > > to either appease a planet or to get rid of the maleficity of > the > > > planet ,can be suggested. > > > > > > Yes the books on Lal Kitab available in the market, including > the > > > one available on the net, gives wholesale upaya for each planet > in > > > each house. And you know what these upaya are like. > > > > > > You will agree that we should not encourage this tendency of > > > wholesale upaya as given in these baazar books. > > > > > > The second reason was that if we answer such a query on Saturn, > > then > > > there might be requests for other planets. There will be no end > to > > > it. This will lead us away from our intention to discuss > concepts > > > and principles. > > > > > > However if you think that the query of Thakur Saheb is > justified , > > > then I will request you to kindly help us and prepare an answer > > for > > > him. > > > > > > As for being a moderator, my job is only to moderate the > language, > > > that too when I feel it might hurt some one. > > > > > > Soon we would have finished with the current two topics of Pitri > > Rin > > > and Blind horoscopes. I will request the members to initiate a > > > discussion on some other concept. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Chandra prakash > > > > > > , kulbir bains > > > <kulbirbains@> wrote: > > > > > > > > sir, in my personal opinion thakur sahib has raised a valid > > point > > > for disscussion. he is not asking about a particular remedy for > > > himself but a generalised question.but as a moderator u have the > > > final word. i would suggest that ur goodself categorize the > topics > > > for disscussion and fix a time limit for each topic. > > > > > > > kulbir bains > > > > > > > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote: > > > > Dear kaiwal ji, > > > > > > > > This group is for discussion on various concepts and > principles > > of > > > > the Lal Kitab and not to suggest upaya for various planets. > > > > Therefore you might have to seek answer to your query from > some > > > > other group. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Chandra Prakash > > > > > > > > , kaiwal thakur > > > > <i9815739229@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Respected all > > > > > How one can please SAT or get rid off its effects from > > > > differrent houses > > > > > Eagerly waiting to chat or for mail > > > > > Wish you all all the best always > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Expecting? 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Guest guest Posted April 8, 2007 Report Share Posted April 8, 2007 Respected Chandra Prakash Ji Sorry for that and beg pardon Let me Know difference between UPAYA and TOTKA Thanking you in anticipationcptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007 wrote: Dear Kaiwal ji,We will not discuss Indra Jal in this group. Therefore no more messages about it. Incidentally Lal Kitab upaya are not Totkas.Regards,Chandra Prakash , kaiwal thakur <i9815739229 wrote:>> RespectedKulbir Ji> it is true highly coded book but same as lalkitab totkey works same its totkey works.> I donot wish to hurt you sir for general knowledge wrote> if my words hurt you sorry for that> have nice time> > > kulbirbains <kulbirbains wrote:> Inder jal is a highly coded book unless u know the codes it it won't > help, like onion or owl does not men onion or owl but something > else. > guru is amust in this field. > kulbir bains> , kaiwal thakur <i9815739229@> > wrote:> >> > Respected all members> > I am very very gratefull to all for taking my points for > discussion . These all are for general members not perticularly > for me> > I again wish toconcentrate your kind attention to an other > point if any one has some knowledge of relationship between > PLANETS with PLANTS to get rid off such type of malafic effect or > other type of effects, please do share with me regarding said point. > > Second thing in this profession if some one take help from > INDER JALL , can help the needy persons successfully> > Please never mind if it is the time killing source only in > discusions then also should enjoy all > > WISH YOU ALL ALL THE BEST> > Eagerly waiting for negative / positive response> > > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote:> > Dear Kulbir ji,> > > > If you notice Thakur saheb has asked for two things : how to > appease > > Saturn in various houses; and what upaya to be done to get rid of > > the malefic effects of the Saturn in those houses.> > > > You as a scholar of Lal Kitab know that such questions can not be > > answered in the absence of a horoscope. It is only after > > ascertaining the maleficity of the planet in the horoscope the > upaya > > to either appease a planet or to get rid of the maleficity of the > > planet ,can be suggested.> > > > Yes the books on Lal Kitab available in the market, including the > > one available on the net, gives wholesale upaya for each planet in > > each house. And you know what these upaya are like.> > > > You will agree that we should not encourage this tendency of > > wholesale upaya as given in these baazar books.> > > > The second reason was that if we answer such a query on Saturn, > then > > there might be requests for other planets. There will be no end to > > it. This will lead us away from our intention to discuss concepts > > and principles.> > > > However if you think that the query of Thakur Saheb is justified , > > then I will request you to kindly help us and prepare an answer > for > > him.> > > > As for being a moderator, my job is only to moderate the language, > > that too when I feel it might hurt some one.> > > > Soon we would have finished with the current two topics of Pitri > Rin > > and Blind horoscopes. I will request the members to initiate a > > discussion on some other concept.> > > > With regards,> > > > Chandra prakash> > > > , kulbir bains > > <kulbirbains@> wrote:> > >> > > sir, in my personal opinion thakur sahib has raised a valid > point > > for disscussion. he is not asking about a particular remedy for > > himself but a generalised question.but as a moderator u have the > > final word. i would suggest that ur goodself categorize the topics > > for disscussion and fix a time limit for each topic.> > > > > kulbir bains> > > > > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote:> > > Dear kaiwal ji,> > > > > > This group is for discussion on various concepts and principles > of > > > the Lal Kitab and not to suggest upaya for various planets. > > > Therefore you might have to seek answer to your query from some > > > other group.> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Chandra Prakash> > > > > > , kaiwal thakur > > > <i9815739229@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected all> > > > How one can please SAT or get rid off its effects from > > > differrent houses> > > > Eagerly waiting to chat or for mail > > > > Wish you all all the best always> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.> > > > Try the Mail Beta.> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here§s a new way to find what you're looking for - > Answers> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check.> > Try the Mail Beta.> >> > > > > > > > Don't get soaked. Take a quick peek at the forecast > with the Search weather shortcut.> No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Mail for Mobile. Get started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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