Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 First of all lets categorize them as per shyans of houses and planets. 1. plants and their products;-; 1. saunf for 1st house mars; 2. keekar for 1st Saturn; 3. dal sabot mungi for 2nd mercury; matter/peas for 2nd mercury; 4. jaggery , bajra for 2nd sun; 5. potato camphor and ginger stands for 2nd house venus; 6. daalchanna,haldi for 2nd jupiter; 7. daal mah sabot, kaali mirch,kale chane, safed or kabuli chane, chandan lakdi for 2nd Saturn; 8. sarson for 2nd rahu; 9. imli, til for 2nd ketu; 10. rice for 2nd moon 11. chiratya for 3rd moon, 12. chaure patton wala drakhat for budh 3rd; 13. jaun for 3rd 14. tree khajhur, teak, abnoos,shahbaloot timber for saturn3rd 15. dhak, dek tree lal mirchi for 4th mars, 16. chill, deodar kail for 4th saturn; 17. dhaniya for 4th rahu 18. kesar for 5th Jupiter 19. bamboo for 5th budh; 20. milk of aak for 5th moon; 21. neem for 5th mars; 22. apple for 6th jupiter, 23. flowers, mango tree for 6th budh; 24. beri for 6th Saturn; 25. onion,garlic for 6th ketu; 26. chari for 7th venus; 27. green grass for 7th budh; 28. coconut for rahu 7th 29. ajavayan, dal masoor, creepers with small leaves,anar for 7th mars; 30. jimmikand,carrot for 8th venus; 31. dead flower or flower used on funeral for budh 8th; 32. green forest for budh 9th 33. sookha peepal for 10th jupiter; 34. opium for 10th moon; 35. kapas for 10th venus; 36. khaand/sugar for 10th mars; 37. peepal live for 12th jupiter; 38. gilo for 12th mars; 39. Mango fruit for Jupiter and shani; 40. banana tree for budh. 41. shesham, aak, falahi, madar, old food for building material for Saturn 9th, 42. dry grass, heeng for budh 10th; edible oil for Saturn 10th; 43. banana fruit for ketu 12th; 44. almonds for Saturn 12th; kindly check if i have missed something or there is some mistake in the list. kulbir bains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2007 Report Share Posted April 5, 2007 First of all lets categorize them as per shyans of houses and planets. 1. plants and their products;-; 1. saunf for 1st house mars; 2. keekar for 1st Saturn; 3. dal sabot mungi for 2nd mercury; matter/peas for 2nd mercury; 4. jaggery , bajra for 2nd sun; 5. potato camphor and ginger stands for 2nd house venus; 6. daalchanna,haldi for 2nd jupiter; 7. daal mah sabot, kaali mirch,kale chane, safed or kabuli chane, chandan lakdi for 2nd Saturn; 8. sarson for 2nd rahu; 9. imli, til for 2nd ketu; 10. rice for 2nd moon 11. chiratya for 3rd moon, 12. chaure patton wala drakhat for budh 3rd; 13. jaun for 3rd 14. tree khajhur, teak, abnoos,shahbaloot timber for saturn3rd 15. dhak, dek tree lal mirchi for 4th mars, 16. chill, deodar kail for 4th saturn; 17. dhaniya for 4th rahu 18. kesar for 5th Jupiter 19. bamboo for 5th budh; 20. milk of aak for 5th moon; 21. neem for 5th mars; 22. apple for 6th jupiter, 23. flowers, mango tree for 6th budh; 24. beri for 6th Saturn; 25. onion,garlic for 6th ketu; 26. chari for 7th venus; 27. green grass for 7th budh; 28. coconut for rahu 7th 29. ajavayan, dal masoor, creepers with small leaves,anar for 7th mars; 30. jimmikand,carrot for 8th venus; 31. dead flower or flower used on funeral for budh 8th; 32. green forest for budh 9th 33. sookha peepal for 10th jupiter; 34. opium for 10th moon; 35. kapas for 10th venus; 36. khaand/sugar for 10th mars; 37. peepal live for 12th jupiter; 38. gilo for 12th mars; 39. Mango fruit for Jupiter and shani; 40. banana tree for budh. 41. shesham, aak, falahi, madar, old food for building material for Saturn 9th, 42. dry grass, heeng for budh 10th; edible oil for Saturn 10th; 43. banana fruit for ketu 12th; 44. almonds for Saturn 12th; kindly check if i have missed something or there is some mistake in the list. kulbir bains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 Dear Kulbir ji, Simply superb, a very exaustive list. But let us stick to the planet and the karak objects part of the list. It is not advisable to mention the houses. By doing so we would be committing the same mistake which the bazaar books have made. A karak object of a planet can be used by a Lal Kitab scholar in various upaya in different forms. For example Gur or wheat as the karak objects of the Sun will be advised to be gifted at a temple if Rahu is there in the 1st house, because the Rahu will eclipse the Sun where ever it is placed. If the Sun is manda in the 3rd house the Gur could be given to young kanyas, if the Sun is in the 8th house Gur can be buried in a glass bottle in a cremation ground.... and so on. If you are qouting from the book any upaya, then a house along with the karak can be mentioned. Like in your list you have mentioned the karaks and the houses, if you mention the houses then you have to mention the use of that karak object in an upaya as suggested by the Lal Kitab for that house. Adding a few more karaks : peela neebu = jupiter + ketu Bargad { banyan tree } = jupiter + moon Flower of Anaar{pomegranate} = mars [ malefic} Sun flower = Sun + jupiter Mango tree = Saturn + mercury chhuare { dry dates } = Saturn + mars Nariyal = rahu Lehsora tree = mercury { malefic } Regards, Chandra Prakash , " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains wrote: > > First of all lets categorize them as per shyans of houses and > planets. > 1. plants and their products;-; > 1. saunf for 1st house mars; > 2. keekar for 1st Saturn; > 3. dal sabot mungi for 2nd mercury; matter/peas for 2nd > mercury; > 4. jaggery , bajra for 2nd sun; > 5. potato camphor and ginger stands for 2nd house venus; > 6. daalchanna,haldi for 2nd jupiter; > 7. daal mah sabot, kaali mirch,kale chane, safed or kabuli > chane, chandan lakdi for 2nd Saturn; > 8. sarson for 2nd rahu; > 9. imli, til for 2nd ketu; > 10. rice for 2nd moon > 11. chiratya for 3rd moon, > 12. chaure patton wala drakhat for budh 3rd; > 13. jaun for 3rd > 14. tree khajhur, teak, abnoos,shahbaloot timber for saturn3rd > 15. dhak, dek tree lal mirchi for 4th mars, > 16. chill, deodar kail for 4th saturn; > 17. dhaniya for 4th rahu > 18. kesar for 5th Jupiter > 19. bamboo for 5th budh; > 20. milk of aak for 5th moon; > 21. neem for 5th mars; > 22. apple for 6th jupiter, > 23. flowers, mango tree for 6th budh; > 24. beri for 6th Saturn; > 25. onion,garlic for 6th ketu; > 26. chari for 7th venus; > 27. green grass for 7th budh; > 28. coconut for rahu 7th > 29. ajavayan, dal masoor, creepers with small leaves,anar for > 7th mars; > 30. jimmikand,carrot for 8th venus; > 31. dead flower or flower used on funeral for budh 8th; > 32. green forest for budh 9th > 33. sookha peepal for 10th jupiter; > 34. opium for 10th moon; > 35. kapas for 10th venus; > 36. khaand/sugar for 10th mars; > 37. peepal live for 12th jupiter; > 38. gilo for 12th mars; > 39. Mango fruit for Jupiter and shani; > 40. banana tree for budh. > 41. shesham, aak, falahi, madar, old food for building material > for Saturn 9th, > 42. dry grass, heeng for budh 10th; edible oil for Saturn 10th; > 43. banana fruit for ketu 12th; > 44. almonds for Saturn 12th; > > kindly check if i have missed something or there is some mistake in > the list. > kulbir bains. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 SORRY SIR, i totaly disagree with u on this point if dhaniya is for rahu in house no 4. and lead and nariyal for rahu 11 both shah of rahu but there is a stark difference, then upaa has to follow house accordingly. perhaps inadvertantly u r following the dalda books not me. how can u remove the house i simply can't understand. yes there are upaas like ghanto mein asar ya emergency upayas but here we are trying to understand the book in its full essence. kulbir bainscptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007 wrote: Dear Kulbir ji,Simply superb, a very exaustive list. But let us stick to the planet and the karak objects part of the list. It is not advisable to mention the houses. By doing so we would be committing the same mistake which the bazaar books have made.A karak object of a planet can be used by a Lal Kitab scholar in various upaya in different forms. For example Gur or wheat as the karak objects of the Sun will be advised to be gifted at a temple if Rahu is there in the 1st house, because the Rahu will eclipse the Sun where ever it is placed. If the Sun is manda in the 3rd house the Gur could be given to young kanyas, if the Sun is in the 8th house Gur can be buried in a glass bottle in a cremation ground.... and so on.If you are qouting from the book any upaya, then a house along with the karak can be mentioned. Like in your list you have mentioned the karaks and the houses, if you mention the houses then you have to mention the use of that karak object in an upaya as suggested by the Lal Kitab for that house.Adding a few more karaks :peela neebu = jupiter + ketuBargad { banyan tree } = jupiter + moonFlower of Anaar{pomegranate} = mars [ malefic}Sun flower = Sun + jupiterMango tree = Saturn + mercurychhuare { dry dates } = Saturn + marsNariyal = rahuLehsora tree = mercury { malefic }Regards,Chandra Prakash , "kulbirbains" <kulbirbains wrote:>> First of all lets categorize them as per shyans of houses and > planets.> 1. plants and their products;-;> 1. saunf for 1st house mars;> 2. keekar for 1st Saturn;> 3. dal sabot mungi for 2nd mercury; matter/peas for 2nd > mercury; > 4. jaggery , bajra for 2nd sun; > 5. potato camphor and ginger stands for 2nd house venus; > 6. daalchanna,haldi for 2nd jupiter; > 7. daal mah sabot, kaali mirch,kale chane, safed or kabuli > chane, chandan lakdi for 2nd Saturn;> 8. sarson for 2nd rahu;> 9. imli, til for 2nd ketu; > 10. rice for 2nd moon> 11. chiratya for 3rd moon,> 12. chaure patton wala drakhat for budh 3rd; > 13. jaun for 3rd> 14. tree khajhur, teak, abnoos,shahbaloot timber for saturn3rd> 15. dhak, dek tree lal mirchi for 4th mars,> 16. chill, deodar kail for 4th saturn; > 17. dhaniya for 4th rahu> 18. kesar for 5th Jupiter> 19. bamboo for 5th budh;> 20. milk of aak for 5th moon;> 21. neem for 5th mars; > 22. apple for 6th jupiter, > 23. flowers, mango tree for 6th budh; > 24. beri for 6th Saturn; > 25. onion,garlic for 6th ketu; > 26. chari for 7th venus;> 27. green grass for 7th budh; > 28. coconut for rahu 7th> 29. ajavayan, dal masoor, creepers with small leaves,anar for > 7th mars;> 30. jimmikand,carrot for 8th venus;> 31. dead flower or flower used on funeral for budh 8th; > 32. green forest for budh 9th> 33. sookha peepal for 10th jupiter;> 34. opium for 10th moon; > 35. kapas for 10th venus;> 36. khaand/sugar for 10th mars;> 37. peepal live for 12th jupiter;> 38. gilo for 12th mars; > 39. Mango fruit for Jupiter and shani;> 40. banana tree for budh. > 41. shesham, aak, falahi, madar, old food for building material > for Saturn 9th, > 42. dry grass, heeng for budh 10th; edible oil for Saturn 10th;> 43. banana fruit for ketu 12th; > 44. almonds for Saturn 12th;> > kindly check if i have missed something or there is some mistake in > the list.> kulbir bains.> Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 Dear Kulbir ji, Simply superb, a very exaustive list. But let us stick to the planet and the karak objects part of the list. It is not advisable to mention the houses. By doing so we would be committing the same mistake which the bazaar books have made. A karak object of a planet can be used by a Lal Kitab scholar in various upaya in different forms. For example Gur or wheat as the karak objects of the Sun will be advised to be gifted at a temple if Rahu is there in the 1st house, because the Rahu will eclipse the Sun where ever it is placed. If the Sun is manda in the 3rd house the Gur could be given to young kanyas, if the Sun is in the 8th house Gur can be buried in a glass bottle in a cremation ground.... and so on. If you are qouting from the book any upaya, then a house along with the karak can be mentioned. Like in your list you have mentioned the karaks and the houses, if you mention the houses then you have to mention the use of that karak object in an upaya as suggested by the Lal Kitab for that house. Adding a few more karaks : peela neebu = jupiter + ketu Bargad { banyan tree } = jupiter + moon Flower of Anaar{pomegranate} = mars [ malefic} Sun flower = Sun + jupiter Mango tree = Saturn + mercury chhuare { dry dates } = Saturn + mars Nariyal = rahu Lehsora tree = mercury { malefic } Regards, Chandra Prakash , " kulbirbains " <kulbirbains wrote: > > First of all lets categorize them as per shyans of houses and > planets. > 1. plants and their products;-; > 1. saunf for 1st house mars; > 2. keekar for 1st Saturn; > 3. dal sabot mungi for 2nd mercury; matter/peas for 2nd > mercury; > 4. jaggery , bajra for 2nd sun; > 5. potato camphor and ginger stands for 2nd house venus; > 6. daalchanna,haldi for 2nd jupiter; > 7. daal mah sabot, kaali mirch,kale chane, safed or kabuli > chane, chandan lakdi for 2nd Saturn; > 8. sarson for 2nd rahu; > 9. imli, til for 2nd ketu; > 10. rice for 2nd moon > 11. chiratya for 3rd moon, > 12. chaure patton wala drakhat for budh 3rd; > 13. jaun for 3rd > 14. tree khajhur, teak, abnoos,shahbaloot timber for saturn3rd > 15. dhak, dek tree lal mirchi for 4th mars, > 16. chill, deodar kail for 4th saturn; > 17. dhaniya for 4th rahu > 18. kesar for 5th Jupiter > 19. bamboo for 5th budh; > 20. milk of aak for 5th moon; > 21. neem for 5th mars; > 22. apple for 6th jupiter, > 23. flowers, mango tree for 6th budh; > 24. beri for 6th Saturn; > 25. onion,garlic for 6th ketu; > 26. chari for 7th venus; > 27. green grass for 7th budh; > 28. coconut for rahu 7th > 29. ajavayan, dal masoor, creepers with small leaves,anar for > 7th mars; > 30. jimmikand,carrot for 8th venus; > 31. dead flower or flower used on funeral for budh 8th; > 32. green forest for budh 9th > 33. sookha peepal for 10th jupiter; > 34. opium for 10th moon; > 35. kapas for 10th venus; > 36. khaand/sugar for 10th mars; > 37. peepal live for 12th jupiter; > 38. gilo for 12th mars; > 39. Mango fruit for Jupiter and shani; > 40. banana tree for budh. > 41. shesham, aak, falahi, madar, old food for building material > for Saturn 9th, > 42. dry grass, heeng for budh 10th; edible oil for Saturn 10th; > 43. banana fruit for ketu 12th; > 44. almonds for Saturn 12th; > > kindly check if i have missed something or there is some mistake in > the list. > kulbir bains. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2007 Report Share Posted April 6, 2007 SORRY SIR, i totaly disagree with u on this point if dhaniya is for rahu in house no 4. and lead and nariyal for rahu 11 both shah of rahu but there is a stark difference, then upaa has to follow house accordingly. perhaps inadvertantly u r following the dalda books not me. how can u remove the house i simply can't understand. yes there are upaas like ghanto mein asar ya emergency upayas but here we are trying to understand the book in its full essence. kulbir bainscptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007 wrote: Dear Kulbir ji,Simply superb, a very exaustive list. But let us stick to the planet and the karak objects part of the list. It is not advisable to mention the houses. By doing so we would be committing the same mistake which the bazaar books have made.A karak object of a planet can be used by a Lal Kitab scholar in various upaya in different forms. For example Gur or wheat as the karak objects of the Sun will be advised to be gifted at a temple if Rahu is there in the 1st house, because the Rahu will eclipse the Sun where ever it is placed. If the Sun is manda in the 3rd house the Gur could be given to young kanyas, if the Sun is in the 8th house Gur can be buried in a glass bottle in a cremation ground.... and so on.If you are qouting from the book any upaya, then a house along with the karak can be mentioned. Like in your list you have mentioned the karaks and the houses, if you mention the houses then you have to mention the use of that karak object in an upaya as suggested by the Lal Kitab for that house.Adding a few more karaks :peela neebu = jupiter + ketuBargad { banyan tree } = jupiter + moonFlower of Anaar{pomegranate} = mars [ malefic}Sun flower = Sun + jupiterMango tree = Saturn + mercurychhuare { dry dates } = Saturn + marsNariyal = rahuLehsora tree = mercury { malefic }Regards,Chandra Prakash , "kulbirbains" <kulbirbains wrote:>> First of all lets categorize them as per shyans of houses and > planets.> 1. plants and their products;-;> 1. saunf for 1st house mars;> 2. keekar for 1st Saturn;> 3. dal sabot mungi for 2nd mercury; matter/peas for 2nd > mercury; > 4. jaggery , bajra for 2nd sun; > 5. potato camphor and ginger stands for 2nd house venus; > 6. daalchanna,haldi for 2nd jupiter; > 7. daal mah sabot, kaali mirch,kale chane, safed or kabuli > chane, chandan lakdi for 2nd Saturn;> 8. sarson for 2nd rahu;> 9. imli, til for 2nd ketu; > 10. rice for 2nd moon> 11. chiratya for 3rd moon,> 12. chaure patton wala drakhat for budh 3rd; > 13. jaun for 3rd> 14. tree khajhur, teak, abnoos,shahbaloot timber for saturn3rd> 15. dhak, dek tree lal mirchi for 4th mars,> 16. chill, deodar kail for 4th saturn; > 17. dhaniya for 4th rahu> 18. kesar for 5th Jupiter> 19. bamboo for 5th budh;> 20. milk of aak for 5th moon;> 21. neem for 5th mars; > 22. apple for 6th jupiter, > 23. flowers, mango tree for 6th budh; > 24. beri for 6th Saturn; > 25. onion,garlic for 6th ketu; > 26. chari for 7th venus;> 27. green grass for 7th budh; > 28. coconut for rahu 7th> 29. ajavayan, dal masoor, creepers with small leaves,anar for > 7th mars;> 30. jimmikand,carrot for 8th venus;> 31. dead flower or flower used on funeral for budh 8th; > 32. green forest for budh 9th> 33. sookha peepal for 10th jupiter;> 34. opium for 10th moon; > 35. kapas for 10th venus;> 36. khaand/sugar for 10th mars;> 37. peepal live for 12th jupiter;> 38. gilo for 12th mars; > 39. Mango fruit for Jupiter and shani;> 40. banana tree for budh. > 41. shesham, aak, falahi, madar, old food for building material > for Saturn 9th, > 42. dry grass, heeng for budh 10th; edible oil for Saturn 10th;> 43. banana fruit for ketu 12th; > 44. almonds for Saturn 12th;> > kindly check if i have missed something or there is some mistake in > the list.> kulbir bains.> Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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