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Dear Kulbir ji,

 

We are a small family. In the family you do not have to say sorry to

your equals. We are all equal here.

 

I didn't realise that you were giving a list of karak objects

according to the planets and the houses given in the Lal Kitab on

pages 1005-8 { 1952ed}.

 

Had you begun with Jupiter,Sun,moon etc I would have got it

immediately. Since the list was not in that order I misunderstood

the list.

 

with regards,

 

Chandra Prakash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, kulbir bains

<kulbirbains wrote:

>

> SORRY SIR, i totaly disagree with u on this point if dhaniya is

for rahu in house no 4. and lead and nariyal for rahu 11 both shah

of rahu but there is a stark difference, then upaa has to follow

house accordingly. perhaps inadvertantly u r following the dalda

books not me.

> how can u remove the house i simply can't understand. yes there

are upaas like ghanto mein asar ya emergency upayas but here we are

trying to understand the book in its full essence.

>

kulbir bains

>

> cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007 wrote:

> Dear Kulbir ji,

>

> Simply superb, a very exaustive list.

>

> But let us stick to the planet and the karak objects part of the

> list. It is not advisable to mention the houses. By doing so we

> would be committing the same mistake which the bazaar books have

> made.

>

> A karak object of a planet can be used by a Lal Kitab scholar in

> various upaya in different forms. For example Gur or wheat as the

> karak objects of the Sun will be advised to be gifted at a temple

if

> Rahu is there in the 1st house, because the Rahu will eclipse the

> Sun where ever it is placed. If the Sun is manda in the 3rd house

> the Gur could be given to young kanyas, if the Sun is in the 8th

> house Gur can be buried in a glass bottle in a cremation

ground....

> and so on.

>

> If you are qouting from the book any upaya, then a house along

with

> the karak can be mentioned. Like in your list you have mentioned

the

> karaks and the houses, if you mention the houses then you have to

> mention the use of that karak object in an upaya as suggested by

the

> Lal Kitab for that house.

>

> Adding a few more karaks :

>

> peela neebu = jupiter + ketu

> Bargad { banyan tree } = jupiter + moon

> Flower of Anaar{pomegranate} = mars [ malefic}

> Sun flower = Sun + jupiter

> Mango tree = Saturn + mercury

> chhuare { dry dates } = Saturn + mars

> Nariyal = rahu

> Lehsora tree = mercury { malefic }

>

> Regards,

>

> Chandra Prakash

>

> , " kulbirbains "

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> >

> > First of all lets categorize them as per shyans of houses and

> > planets.

> > 1. plants and their products;-;

> > 1. saunf for 1st house mars;

> > 2. keekar for 1st Saturn;

> > 3. dal sabot mungi for 2nd mercury; matter/peas for 2nd

> > mercury;

> > 4. jaggery , bajra for 2nd sun;

> > 5. potato camphor and ginger stands for 2nd house venus;

> > 6. daalchanna,haldi for 2nd jupiter;

> > 7. daal mah sabot, kaali mirch,kale chane, safed or kabuli

> > chane, chandan lakdi for 2nd Saturn;

> > 8. sarson for 2nd rahu;

> > 9. imli, til for 2nd ketu;

> > 10. rice for 2nd moon

> > 11. chiratya for 3rd moon,

> > 12. chaure patton wala drakhat for budh 3rd;

> > 13. jaun for 3rd

> > 14. tree khajhur, teak, abnoos,shahbaloot timber for saturn3rd

> > 15. dhak, dek tree lal mirchi for 4th mars,

> > 16. chill, deodar kail for 4th saturn;

> > 17. dhaniya for 4th rahu

> > 18. kesar for 5th Jupiter

> > 19. bamboo for 5th budh;

> > 20. milk of aak for 5th moon;

> > 21. neem for 5th mars;

> > 22. apple for 6th jupiter,

> > 23. flowers, mango tree for 6th budh;

> > 24. beri for 6th Saturn;

> > 25. onion,garlic for 6th ketu;

> > 26. chari for 7th venus;

> > 27. green grass for 7th budh;

> > 28. coconut for rahu 7th

> > 29. ajavayan, dal masoor, creepers with small leaves,anar for

> > 7th mars;

> > 30. jimmikand,carrot for 8th venus;

> > 31. dead flower or flower used on funeral for budh 8th;

> > 32. green forest for budh 9th

> > 33. sookha peepal for 10th jupiter;

> > 34. opium for 10th moon;

> > 35. kapas for 10th venus;

> > 36. khaand/sugar for 10th mars;

> > 37. peepal live for 12th jupiter;

> > 38. gilo for 12th mars;

> > 39. Mango fruit for Jupiter and shani;

> > 40. banana tree for budh.

> > 41. shesham, aak, falahi, madar, old food for building material

> > for Saturn 9th,

> > 42. dry grass, heeng for budh 10th; edible oil for Saturn 10th;

> > 43. banana fruit for ketu 12th;

> > 44. almonds for Saturn 12th;

> >

> > kindly check if i have missed something or there is some mistake

> in

> > the list.

> > kulbir bains.

> >

 

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point taken sir, i shall categorize them in a more simplified and

practical manner

kulbir

bains --- In

, " cptyagi2007 " <cptyagi2007

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir ji,

>

> We are a small family. In the family you do not have to say sorry

to

> your equals. We are all equal here.

>

> I didn't realise that you were giving a list of karak objects

> according to the planets and the houses given in the Lal Kitab on

> pages 1005-8 { 1952ed}.

>

> Had you begun with Jupiter,Sun,moon etc I would have got it

> immediately. Since the list was not in that order I misunderstood

> the list.

>

> with regards,

>

> Chandra Prakash

>

>

>

>

>

, kulbir bains

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> >

> > SORRY SIR, i totaly disagree with u on this point if dhaniya is

> for rahu in house no 4. and lead and nariyal for rahu 11 both shah

> of rahu but there is a stark difference, then upaa has to follow

> house accordingly. perhaps inadvertantly u r following the dalda

> books not me.

> > how can u remove the house i simply can't understand. yes

there

> are upaas like ghanto mein asar ya emergency upayas but here we

are

> trying to understand the book in its full essence.

>

>

> kulbir bains

> >

> > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote:

> > Dear Kulbir ji,

> >

> > Simply superb, a very exaustive list.

> >

> > But let us stick to the planet and the karak objects part of the

> > list. It is not advisable to mention the houses. By doing so we

> > would be committing the same mistake which the bazaar books have

> > made.

> >

> > A karak object of a planet can be used by a Lal Kitab scholar in

> > various upaya in different forms. For example Gur or wheat as

the

> > karak objects of the Sun will be advised to be gifted at a

temple

> if

> > Rahu is there in the 1st house, because the Rahu will eclipse

the

> > Sun where ever it is placed. If the Sun is manda in the 3rd

house

> > the Gur could be given to young kanyas, if the Sun is in the 8th

> > house Gur can be buried in a glass bottle in a cremation

> ground....

> > and so on.

> >

> > If you are qouting from the book any upaya, then a house along

> with

> > the karak can be mentioned. Like in your list you have mentioned

> the

> > karaks and the houses, if you mention the houses then you have

to

> > mention the use of that karak object in an upaya as suggested by

> the

> > Lal Kitab for that house.

> >

> > Adding a few more karaks :

> >

> > peela neebu = jupiter + ketu

> > Bargad { banyan tree } = jupiter + moon

> > Flower of Anaar{pomegranate} = mars [ malefic}

> > Sun flower = Sun + jupiter

> > Mango tree = Saturn + mercury

> > chhuare { dry dates } = Saturn + mars

> > Nariyal = rahu

> > Lehsora tree = mercury { malefic }

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Chandra Prakash

> >

> > , " kulbirbains "

> > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > >

> > > First of all lets categorize them as per shyans of houses and

> > > planets.

> > > 1. plants and their products;-;

> > > 1. saunf for 1st house mars;

> > > 2. keekar for 1st Saturn;

> > > 3. dal sabot mungi for 2nd mercury; matter/peas for 2nd

> > > mercury;

> > > 4. jaggery , bajra for 2nd sun;

> > > 5. potato camphor and ginger stands for 2nd house venus;

> > > 6. daalchanna,haldi for 2nd jupiter;

> > > 7. daal mah sabot, kaali mirch,kale chane, safed or kabuli

> > > chane, chandan lakdi for 2nd Saturn;

> > > 8. sarson for 2nd rahu;

> > > 9. imli, til for 2nd ketu;

> > > 10. rice for 2nd moon

> > > 11. chiratya for 3rd moon,

> > > 12. chaure patton wala drakhat for budh 3rd;

> > > 13. jaun for 3rd

> > > 14. tree khajhur, teak, abnoos,shahbaloot timber for saturn3rd

> > > 15. dhak, dek tree lal mirchi for 4th mars,

> > > 16. chill, deodar kail for 4th saturn;

> > > 17. dhaniya for 4th rahu

> > > 18. kesar for 5th Jupiter

> > > 19. bamboo for 5th budh;

> > > 20. milk of aak for 5th moon;

> > > 21. neem for 5th mars;

> > > 22. apple for 6th jupiter,

> > > 23. flowers, mango tree for 6th budh;

> > > 24. beri for 6th Saturn;

> > > 25. onion,garlic for 6th ketu;

> > > 26. chari for 7th venus;

> > > 27. green grass for 7th budh;

> > > 28. coconut for rahu 7th

> > > 29. ajavayan, dal masoor, creepers with small leaves,anar for

> > > 7th mars;

> > > 30. jimmikand,carrot for 8th venus;

> > > 31. dead flower or flower used on funeral for budh 8th;

> > > 32. green forest for budh 9th

> > > 33. sookha peepal for 10th jupiter;

> > > 34. opium for 10th moon;

> > > 35. kapas for 10th venus;

> > > 36. khaand/sugar for 10th mars;

> > > 37. peepal live for 12th jupiter;

> > > 38. gilo for 12th mars;

> > > 39. Mango fruit for Jupiter and shani;

> > > 40. banana tree for budh.

> > > 41. shesham, aak, falahi, madar, old food for building

material

> > > for Saturn 9th,

> > > 42. dry grass, heeng for budh 10th; edible oil for Saturn 10th;

> > > 43. banana fruit for ketu 12th;

> > > 44. almonds for Saturn 12th;

> > >

> > > kindly check if i have missed something or there is some

mistake

> > in

> > > the list.

> > > kulbir bains.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > HereÂ's a new way to find what you're looking for -

Answers

> >

>

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Dear Kulbir ji,

 

We are a small family. In the family you do not have to say sorry to

your equals. We are all equal here.

 

I didn't realise that you were giving a list of karak objects

according to the planets and the houses given in the Lal Kitab on

pages 1005-8 { 1952ed}.

 

Had you begun with Jupiter,Sun,moon etc I would have got it

immediately. Since the list was not in that order I misunderstood

the list.

 

with regards,

 

Chandra Prakash

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, kulbir bains

<kulbirbains wrote:

>

> SORRY SIR, i totaly disagree with u on this point if dhaniya is

for rahu in house no 4. and lead and nariyal for rahu 11 both shah

of rahu but there is a stark difference, then upaa has to follow

house accordingly. perhaps inadvertantly u r following the dalda

books not me.

> how can u remove the house i simply can't understand. yes there

are upaas like ghanto mein asar ya emergency upayas but here we are

trying to understand the book in its full essence.

>

kulbir bains

>

> cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007 wrote:

> Dear Kulbir ji,

>

> Simply superb, a very exaustive list.

>

> But let us stick to the planet and the karak objects part of the

> list. It is not advisable to mention the houses. By doing so we

> would be committing the same mistake which the bazaar books have

> made.

>

> A karak object of a planet can be used by a Lal Kitab scholar in

> various upaya in different forms. For example Gur or wheat as the

> karak objects of the Sun will be advised to be gifted at a temple

if

> Rahu is there in the 1st house, because the Rahu will eclipse the

> Sun where ever it is placed. If the Sun is manda in the 3rd house

> the Gur could be given to young kanyas, if the Sun is in the 8th

> house Gur can be buried in a glass bottle in a cremation

ground....

> and so on.

>

> If you are qouting from the book any upaya, then a house along

with

> the karak can be mentioned. Like in your list you have mentioned

the

> karaks and the houses, if you mention the houses then you have to

> mention the use of that karak object in an upaya as suggested by

the

> Lal Kitab for that house.

>

> Adding a few more karaks :

>

> peela neebu = jupiter + ketu

> Bargad { banyan tree } = jupiter + moon

> Flower of Anaar{pomegranate} = mars [ malefic}

> Sun flower = Sun + jupiter

> Mango tree = Saturn + mercury

> chhuare { dry dates } = Saturn + mars

> Nariyal = rahu

> Lehsora tree = mercury { malefic }

>

> Regards,

>

> Chandra Prakash

>

> , " kulbirbains "

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> >

> > First of all lets categorize them as per shyans of houses and

> > planets.

> > 1. plants and their products;-;

> > 1. saunf for 1st house mars;

> > 2. keekar for 1st Saturn;

> > 3. dal sabot mungi for 2nd mercury; matter/peas for 2nd

> > mercury;

> > 4. jaggery , bajra for 2nd sun;

> > 5. potato camphor and ginger stands for 2nd house venus;

> > 6. daalchanna,haldi for 2nd jupiter;

> > 7. daal mah sabot, kaali mirch,kale chane, safed or kabuli

> > chane, chandan lakdi for 2nd Saturn;

> > 8. sarson for 2nd rahu;

> > 9. imli, til for 2nd ketu;

> > 10. rice for 2nd moon

> > 11. chiratya for 3rd moon,

> > 12. chaure patton wala drakhat for budh 3rd;

> > 13. jaun for 3rd

> > 14. tree khajhur, teak, abnoos,shahbaloot timber for saturn3rd

> > 15. dhak, dek tree lal mirchi for 4th mars,

> > 16. chill, deodar kail for 4th saturn;

> > 17. dhaniya for 4th rahu

> > 18. kesar for 5th Jupiter

> > 19. bamboo for 5th budh;

> > 20. milk of aak for 5th moon;

> > 21. neem for 5th mars;

> > 22. apple for 6th jupiter,

> > 23. flowers, mango tree for 6th budh;

> > 24. beri for 6th Saturn;

> > 25. onion,garlic for 6th ketu;

> > 26. chari for 7th venus;

> > 27. green grass for 7th budh;

> > 28. coconut for rahu 7th

> > 29. ajavayan, dal masoor, creepers with small leaves,anar for

> > 7th mars;

> > 30. jimmikand,carrot for 8th venus;

> > 31. dead flower or flower used on funeral for budh 8th;

> > 32. green forest for budh 9th

> > 33. sookha peepal for 10th jupiter;

> > 34. opium for 10th moon;

> > 35. kapas for 10th venus;

> > 36. khaand/sugar for 10th mars;

> > 37. peepal live for 12th jupiter;

> > 38. gilo for 12th mars;

> > 39. Mango fruit for Jupiter and shani;

> > 40. banana tree for budh.

> > 41. shesham, aak, falahi, madar, old food for building material

> > for Saturn 9th,

> > 42. dry grass, heeng for budh 10th; edible oil for Saturn 10th;

> > 43. banana fruit for ketu 12th;

> > 44. almonds for Saturn 12th;

> >

> > kindly check if i have missed something or there is some mistake

> in

> > the list.

> > kulbir bains.

> >

 

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>

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point taken sir, i shall categorize them in a more simplified and

practical manner

kulbir

bains --- In

, " cptyagi2007 " <cptyagi2007

wrote:

>

> Dear Kulbir ji,

>

> We are a small family. In the family you do not have to say sorry

to

> your equals. We are all equal here.

>

> I didn't realise that you were giving a list of karak objects

> according to the planets and the houses given in the Lal Kitab on

> pages 1005-8 { 1952ed}.

>

> Had you begun with Jupiter,Sun,moon etc I would have got it

> immediately. Since the list was not in that order I misunderstood

> the list.

>

> with regards,

>

> Chandra Prakash

>

>

>

>

>

, kulbir bains

> <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> >

> > SORRY SIR, i totaly disagree with u on this point if dhaniya is

> for rahu in house no 4. and lead and nariyal for rahu 11 both shah

> of rahu but there is a stark difference, then upaa has to follow

> house accordingly. perhaps inadvertantly u r following the dalda

> books not me.

> > how can u remove the house i simply can't understand. yes

there

> are upaas like ghanto mein asar ya emergency upayas but here we

are

> trying to understand the book in its full essence.

>

>

> kulbir bains

> >

> > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote:

> > Dear Kulbir ji,

> >

> > Simply superb, a very exaustive list.

> >

> > But let us stick to the planet and the karak objects part of the

> > list. It is not advisable to mention the houses. By doing so we

> > would be committing the same mistake which the bazaar books have

> > made.

> >

> > A karak object of a planet can be used by a Lal Kitab scholar in

> > various upaya in different forms. For example Gur or wheat as

the

> > karak objects of the Sun will be advised to be gifted at a

temple

> if

> > Rahu is there in the 1st house, because the Rahu will eclipse

the

> > Sun where ever it is placed. If the Sun is manda in the 3rd

house

> > the Gur could be given to young kanyas, if the Sun is in the 8th

> > house Gur can be buried in a glass bottle in a cremation

> ground....

> > and so on.

> >

> > If you are qouting from the book any upaya, then a house along

> with

> > the karak can be mentioned. Like in your list you have mentioned

> the

> > karaks and the houses, if you mention the houses then you have

to

> > mention the use of that karak object in an upaya as suggested by

> the

> > Lal Kitab for that house.

> >

> > Adding a few more karaks :

> >

> > peela neebu = jupiter + ketu

> > Bargad { banyan tree } = jupiter + moon

> > Flower of Anaar{pomegranate} = mars [ malefic}

> > Sun flower = Sun + jupiter

> > Mango tree = Saturn + mercury

> > chhuare { dry dates } = Saturn + mars

> > Nariyal = rahu

> > Lehsora tree = mercury { malefic }

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Chandra Prakash

> >

> > , " kulbirbains "

> > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > >

> > > First of all lets categorize them as per shyans of houses and

> > > planets.

> > > 1. plants and their products;-;

> > > 1. saunf for 1st house mars;

> > > 2. keekar for 1st Saturn;

> > > 3. dal sabot mungi for 2nd mercury; matter/peas for 2nd

> > > mercury;

> > > 4. jaggery , bajra for 2nd sun;

> > > 5. potato camphor and ginger stands for 2nd house venus;

> > > 6. daalchanna,haldi for 2nd jupiter;

> > > 7. daal mah sabot, kaali mirch,kale chane, safed or kabuli

> > > chane, chandan lakdi for 2nd Saturn;

> > > 8. sarson for 2nd rahu;

> > > 9. imli, til for 2nd ketu;

> > > 10. rice for 2nd moon

> > > 11. chiratya for 3rd moon,

> > > 12. chaure patton wala drakhat for budh 3rd;

> > > 13. jaun for 3rd

> > > 14. tree khajhur, teak, abnoos,shahbaloot timber for saturn3rd

> > > 15. dhak, dek tree lal mirchi for 4th mars,

> > > 16. chill, deodar kail for 4th saturn;

> > > 17. dhaniya for 4th rahu

> > > 18. kesar for 5th Jupiter

> > > 19. bamboo for 5th budh;

> > > 20. milk of aak for 5th moon;

> > > 21. neem for 5th mars;

> > > 22. apple for 6th jupiter,

> > > 23. flowers, mango tree for 6th budh;

> > > 24. beri for 6th Saturn;

> > > 25. onion,garlic for 6th ketu;

> > > 26. chari for 7th venus;

> > > 27. green grass for 7th budh;

> > > 28. coconut for rahu 7th

> > > 29. ajavayan, dal masoor, creepers with small leaves,anar for

> > > 7th mars;

> > > 30. jimmikand,carrot for 8th venus;

> > > 31. dead flower or flower used on funeral for budh 8th;

> > > 32. green forest for budh 9th

> > > 33. sookha peepal for 10th jupiter;

> > > 34. opium for 10th moon;

> > > 35. kapas for 10th venus;

> > > 36. khaand/sugar for 10th mars;

> > > 37. peepal live for 12th jupiter;

> > > 38. gilo for 12th mars;

> > > 39. Mango fruit for Jupiter and shani;

> > > 40. banana tree for budh.

> > > 41. shesham, aak, falahi, madar, old food for building

material

> > > for Saturn 9th,

> > > 42. dry grass, heeng for budh 10th; edible oil for Saturn 10th;

> > > 43. banana fruit for ketu 12th;

> > > 44. almonds for Saturn 12th;

> > >

> > > kindly check if i have missed something or there is some

mistake

> > in

> > > the list.

> > > kulbir bains.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > HereÂ's a new way to find what you're looking for -

Answers

> >

>

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