totkas r LK remedies

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Thakur sahib yes u r correct indrajaal contains many such formulas

which i term as shabri, people living in remote areas without any

access to modern medical system use them as a part of their everyday

life and these upayas underlying logic can be deduced with the key

of LK karakas and their interpretation; that's why i suggested and

the moderator also agreed to let them be discussed on this forum;

but as it is a complicated topic i postponed it for the moment.as

for the word totke; the formulas of which we do not know the

reasoning the term totka is used but they are highly indigenious and

effective planetary remedies or upayas. clash should be of ideas not

persons. thanx for the courtesy shoen by ur goodself. may god bless

you.

 

kulbir bains

, " cptyagi2007 "

<cptyagi2007 wrote:

>

> Dear Kaiwal ji,

>

> We will not discuss Indra Jal in this group. Therefore no more

> messages about it. Incidentally Lal Kitab upaya are not Totkas.

>

> Regards,

>

> Chandra Prakash

>

, kaiwal thakur

> <i9815739229@> wrote:

> >

> > RespectedKulbir Ji

> > it is true highly coded book but same as lalkitab totkey

> works same its totkey works.

> > I donot wish to hurt you sir for general knowledge wrote

> > if my words hurt you sorry for that

> > have nice time

> >

> >

> > kulbirbains <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > Inder jal is a highly coded book unless u know the

codes

> it it won't

> > help, like onion or owl does not men onion or owl but something

> > else.

> > guru is amust in this field.

> > kulbir bains--- In

> > , kaiwal thakur

<i9815739229@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected all members

> > > I am very very gratefull to all for taking my points for

> > discussion . These all are for general members not perticularly

> > for me

> > > I again wish toconcentrate your kind attention to an other

> > point if any one has some knowledge of relationship between

> > PLANETS with PLANTS to get rid off such type of malafic effect

or

> > other type of effects, please do share with me regarding said

> point.

> > > Second thing in this profession if some one take help from

> > INDER JALL , can help the needy persons successfully

> > > Please never mind if it is the time killing source only in

> > discusions then also should enjoy all

> > > WISH YOU ALL ALL THE BEST

> > > Eagerly waiting for negative / positive response

> > >

> > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote:

> > > Dear Kulbir ji,

> > >

> > > If you notice Thakur saheb has asked for two things : how to

> > appease

> > > Saturn in various houses; and what upaya to be done to get rid

> of

> > > the malefic effects of the Saturn in those houses.

> > >

> > > You as a scholar of Lal Kitab know that such questions can not

> be

> > > answered in the absence of a horoscope. It is only after

> > > ascertaining the maleficity of the planet in the horoscope the

> > upaya

> > > to either appease a planet or to get rid of the maleficity of

> the

> > > planet ,can be suggested.

> > >

> > > Yes the books on Lal Kitab available in the market, including

> the

> > > one available on the net, gives wholesale upaya for each

planet

> in

> > > each house. And you know what these upaya are like.

> > >

> > > You will agree that we should not encourage this tendency of

> > > wholesale upaya as given in these baazar books.

> > >

> > > The second reason was that if we answer such a query on

Saturn,

> > then

> > > there might be requests for other planets. There will be no

end

> to

> > > it. This will lead us away from our intention to discuss

> concepts

> > > and principles.

> > >

> > > However if you think that the query of Thakur Saheb is

> justified ,

> > > then I will request you to kindly help us and prepare an

answer

> > for

> > > him.

> > >

> > > As for being a moderator, my job is only to moderate the

> language,

> > > that too when I feel it might hurt some one.

> > >

> > > Soon we would have finished with the current two topics of

Pitri

> > Rin

> > > and Blind horoscopes. I will request the members to initiate a

> > > discussion on some other concept.

> > >

> > > With regards,

> > >

> > > Chandra prakash

> > >

> > > , kulbir bains

> > > <kulbirbains@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > sir, in my personal opinion thakur sahib has raised a valid

> > point

> > > for disscussion. he is not asking about a particular remedy

for

> > > himself but a generalised question.but as a moderator u have

the

> > > final word. i would suggest that ur goodself categorize the

> topics

> > > for disscussion and fix a time limit for each topic.

> > > >

> > > kulbir bains

> > > >

> > > > cptyagi2007 <cptyagi2007@> wrote:

> > > > Dear kaiwal ji,

> > > >

> > > > This group is for discussion on various concepts and

> principles

> > of

> > > > the Lal Kitab and not to suggest upaya for various planets.

> > > > Therefore you might have to seek answer to your query from

> some

> > > > other group.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Chandra Prakash

> > > >

> > > > , kaiwal thakur

> > > > <i9815739229@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Respected all

> > > > > How one can please SAT or get rid off its effects from

> > > > differrent houses

> > > > > Eagerly waiting to chat or for mail

> > > > > Wish you all all the best always

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