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Respected Sirs,

 

Why an upaya after all ? What purpose does it serve? What is the

spirit behind suggesting remedies?

 

Sir these questions might sound very naive, but need to be clarified.

To my mind the purpose could be more than just getting relief from the

troubles the planets are causing.

 

I have been reading all such statements like, destroying a planet,

distancing a planet, appeasing a planet, strengthening a planet,

making a planet swear to behave and so on. Does the purpose of the

upaya end here ? Or there is more to it?

 

Could any Guru throw some more light on it ?

 

Respectfully,

 

Roopak

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Dear Roopak ji,

 

Upaya : is a ‘prayashchit’ and ‘tapasya’

 

Let’s understand the nature and the spirit of upaya. Whether the

upaya are

like ‘mantra' 'jaap’ , ‘pooja’ ‘havan’ ‘daan’ ‘fasting’

‘pilgrimage’

of the Vedic astrology or simple ethnic upaya of the Lal Kitab ; the

purpose is the same .It is both a repentance and a penance .

 

Doing an upaya is doing a prayashchit ---a repentance . We

through our own actions turn benefic planets into malefic ; may be

even through an inadvertent action. By doing an upaya we repent for

having done those deeds. For example : Saturn might be very well

placed , but we might make it ‘manda’ or ‘ashubh’ by drinking liquor

or maltreating our servants ; The moon might be well placed but we

might make it ‘ashubh’ by harassing our mother and so on. Therefore

one of the major purpose of the upaya is to repent ; by feeding the

fish or touching the feet of our mother and seek her blessings.

 

Doing an upaya is also doing a tapasya , a penance : throwing a coin

each day into a river for 43 days regularly or carrying 8 haldi

ganth to a temple for 8 days regularly. Its no joke to go miles to

throw a coin into a river, not just once , but for 43 days or

driving for a couple of hours to reach a temple eight days in a row.

These upaya test our patience and that’s what the ‘tapasya’ is all

about. If we want some thing from some one we have to appease him.

If we have to appease some one , in this case a planet , we have to

do the ‘tapasya’ : the penance . A penance is never easy ; it’s

hard, grueling and tough. Tougher the penance is , the sweeter are

the fruits.

 

Therefore the upaya have to be done in the spirit of ‘prayishchit’

and ‘tapasya’ : repentance and penance. There are no short cuts to

either of them. You have to do both with religious piety and rigor.

If the upaya are done in this spirit and faith, I don’t see any

reason why they shouldn’t be effective.

 

If in spite of your having done the upaya with extreme religious

rigor and piety there are no positive results, then the fault will

be entirely that of the astrologer. That means he failed to diagnose

the malady correctly or that he failed to devise the correct upaya ;

and as a human being it could be quite possible. We are no Pt.

Roopchand Joshi; he was a ‘siddha purush’.

 

 

 

 

Bhooshan Priya

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " roopak.rastogi "

<roopak.rastogi wrote:

>

> Respected Sirs,

>

> Why an upaya after all ? What purpose does it serve? What is the

> spirit behind suggesting remedies?

>

> Sir these questions might sound very naive, but need to be

clarified.

> To my mind the purpose could be more than just getting relief from

the

> troubles the planets are causing.

>

> I have been reading all such statements like, destroying a planet,

> distancing a planet, appeasing a planet, strengthening a planet,

> making a planet swear to behave and so on. Does the purpose of the

> upaya end here ? Or there is more to it?

>

> Could any Guru throw some more light on it ?

>

> Respectfully,

>

> Roopak

>

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Respected Sir,

 

Thank you very much for your learned explanation.

 

Respectfully,

 

Roopak

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " "

< wrote:

>

> Dear Roopak ji,

>

> Upaya : is a ‘prayashchit’ and ‘tapasya’

>

> Let’s understand the nature and the spirit of upaya. Whether the

> upaya are

>

like ‘mantra' 'jaap’ , ‘pooja’ ‘havan’ ‘daan’ ‘fasting’

‘pilgrimage’

> of the Vedic astrology or simple ethnic upaya of the Lal Kitab ;

the

> purpose is the same .It is both a repentance and a penance .

>

> Doing an upaya is doing a prayashchit ---a repentance . We

> through our own actions turn benefic planets into malefic ; may

be

> even through an inadvertent action. By doing an upaya we repent

for

> having done those deeds. For example : Saturn might be very well

> placed , but we might make it ‘manda’ or ‘ashubh’ by drinking

liquor

> or maltreating our servants ; The moon might be well placed but we

> might make it ‘ashubh’ by harassing our mother and so on.

Therefore

> one of the major purpose of the upaya is to repent ; by feeding

the

> fish or touching the feet of our mother and seek her blessings.

>

> Doing an upaya is also doing a tapasya , a penance : throwing a

coin

> each day into a river for 43 days regularly or carrying 8 haldi

> ganth to a temple for 8 days regularly. Its no joke to go miles

to

> throw a coin into a river, not just once , but for 43 days or

> driving for a couple of hours to reach a temple eight days in a

row.

> These upaya test our patience and that’s what the ‘tapasya’ is all

> about. If we want some thing from some one we have to appease

him.

> If we have to appease some one , in this case a planet , we have

to

> do the ‘tapasya’ : the penance . A penance is never easy ; it’s

> hard, grueling and tough. Tougher the penance is , the sweeter

are

> the fruits.

>

> Therefore the upaya have to be done in the spirit of ‘prayishchit’

> and ‘tapasya’ : repentance and penance. There are no short cuts to

> either of them. You have to do both with religious piety and

rigor.

> If the upaya are done in this spirit and faith, I don’t see any

> reason why they shouldn’t be effective.

>

> If in spite of your having done the upaya with extreme religious

> rigor and piety there are no positive results, then the fault will

> be entirely that of the astrologer. That means he failed to

diagnose

> the malady correctly or that he failed to devise the correct

upaya ;

> and as a human being it could be quite possible. We are no Pt.

> Roopchand Joshi; he was a ‘siddha purush’.

>

>

>

>

> Bhooshan Priya

>

, " roopak.rastogi "

> <roopak.rastogi@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected Sirs,

> >

> > Why an upaya after all ? What purpose does it serve? What is the

> > spirit behind suggesting remedies?

> >

> > Sir these questions might sound very naive, but need to be

> clarified.

> > To my mind the purpose could be more than just getting relief

from

> the

> > troubles the planets are causing.

> >

> > I have been reading all such statements like, destroying a

planet,

> > distancing a planet, appeasing a planet, strengthening a planet,

> > making a planet swear to behave and so on. Does the purpose of

the

> > upaya end here ? Or there is more to it?

> >

> > Could any Guru throw some more light on it ?

> >

> > Respectfully,

> >

> > Roopak

> >

>

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